I have a 2019 Hybrid, 2.0 Atkinson cycle engine and got a blown head gasket at 160,000 miles. I babied it and ALWAYS used Shell 89. Cost me 4,800 to repair. First symptom was misfire during stop/go traffic. Then engine overheating a few days later. Thankfully I didn't drive it after the first overheating issue and got it diagnosed. They did a coolant compression test and borescope to look inside cylinder and saw coolant, confirming gasket gone bad.
I got a 18 Hybrid and I'm getting low coolant, water swishing sounds when I power on my car and misfires here and there maybe even some cold start up sputter. Don't know if it might be a small head gasket leak but I got a 1200km road trip I'm about to do so I might find out soon
I have a 18 Accord hybrid and experience the dreaded random detonation. Always use high quality brand gas and recently only premium. Fuel additives reduce the problem temporarily but I suspect carbon build up is the culprit due direct injection. I'm at 90k miles and have an extended warranty that runs out soon, so I'm going to get the dealer to do a compression and scope to hopeful positively identify the problem on their watch and have it repaired under warranty. Although Honda is relatively reliable, they've seemed to always flip flop between transmission and engine problems. Once they get these engine problems straight, they'll have tranny failures for the next decade smh.
I’m a honda master tech. It is due to the thinner ceiling area between the cylinders. For whatever reason, Honda put a small cut in between the cylinders so there’s less sealing surface. And I agree you guys all need to sue Honda. I’m pretty sure my 2.0 head gasket is starting to leak now and my wife’s 1.5 at 56,000 miles already had to have a head gasket replaced.
I commented on turning this car into something it's not a long time ago. Turbos and computers make it so easy to "tune" an engine into problems. You're taking an engine that's receptive to a tune and then dialed it to 11. With turbos on just about everything , I think you're going to see various problems on "sporty" cars. And throw a dose of GDI and you got another layer of complication. Now you probably have cylinder wall damage and it's gonna end up being scrap. From a reliable source -- "The differences in the the pistons are confirmed by the diagrams. The Accord piston is a fairly standard flat top design with valve reliefs cut into it while the Type R piston shows a more complex D-cup dish which is likely necessary to reduce detonation for the more aggressive tune. The changes to the Type R pistons are not cheap as they list for $216.67 which is five times more than the list price of the Accord pistons."
When I wanted to upgraded my turbo on my 2.0 the shop wouldn't do it unless I let them upgrade the head gasket to the cometic gasket. They said they factory gasket wasn't able to handle the additional pressure and heat.
Have you seen PRLs new lower engine mount? It just came out a few days ago for the 2.0t and they claim increased stiffness with no additional noise or vibrations, unlike the street hasport mounts. It might be worth checking out
I’m using InlinePRO M-Series Head Studs and never have a problem and now im about 505 whp and 520 of wtq This week I reinforced the engine with connecting rods and pistons I hope all goes well
There is a Honda tech posting tons of videos of 1.5T Accords blowing head gaskets . I own the car , and I put 93 . I want to keep the car at least another couple of years . I am worried , but I have a warranty . It would be a nightmare if the car has to sit for months waiting in a shop for head gasket repair . I do have some confidence keeping the car since I seen a lot of high mileage 1.5T Accords with no issues.
Mine just blew at 130k miles. I’m still driving it. Taking it slow and topping off coolant every morning until I can get the funds to have the repair done. Some days it doesn’t need any
The 1.5 is just a combination of way too many issues. Its a thin weak block that is susceptible to deformation under pressure and heat, reducing the reliability of the head gasket. Thr headgasket bolt pattern is also not that great, not having the best pressure distribution. Running low octane fuel and causing LSPI doesnt help. And fuel dilution lowering the oil flash point and cook off temperature exacerbates it.
Yeah there’s minimal material between the cylinders for the HG to seal to and the bolt pattern isn’t great for the head. Couple that with turbo charging it, you’re gonna have long term issues on either engine. The l15 and K20 in N/A form are bulletproof engines but once you add boost the weak points start to show themselves.
Me too but I need to replace my head gasket now! I got $3900 left to pay off my vehicle but $4800 to fix it. I have 96k miles on it. In your opinion would you trade it in and put the $4800 towards a newer vehicle or just fix it and wait until it breaks again? Knowing what you know, what would you do?
The 1.5L L15 engine internal are identical to Fit L15 engine. The parts are the same just stick a turbo change piston ring and call it a day. The engine was never designed to boost, the con rod are smaller than D series (aka weakest Honda engine in 90s) make more power than K20. It's at max from factory, but when covid hit parts supply get interrupted quality drop the max engine will have problem. (L15 make B16 look like way overbuilt)
Can anyone help? My coolant levels for my reservoir are low to empty nowadays i have to top it off every couple days or so. And on cold starts the idle is so rough and is missfiring very badly im leaning towards my hg but i have a couple of months until i pay her off praying she makes it until then so i can sell her n get something else. Could it be my injectors or is it most likely my hg and how much time do i have should i just trade her in rn before it actually blows? Car is a 2021 1.5t with barely 23k miles..
At this point I'd recommend NOT driving the car and having your radiator fluid tested as discussed @ 6:30. There are inexpensive, easy to use test kits found on Amazon... you can find the link in the description of the video.
@@TheLemonFactorupdate i rented a tester kit from autozone and the fluid stayed blue the whole time didnt budget the color at all so i think its not my headgasket maybe my injectors ill get them tested by a shop but for now my headgasket is fine just gotta figure out where my coolant is going cus shes guzzling coolant
It’s for sure your headgasket bro. The chances of having a coolant leak with a rough cold start both being separate issues are like 1 in a 100. These cars when head gasket blows it’ll pass all the test cause it only leaks a lil bit of coolant.
2019 accord 1.5t just a daily driver. Oil changes done at 3k or sooner, never tuned, never raced, couldn’t tow anything with it because it has no tow capacity. Even the Honda service guy said it was obvious that I took care of the car. It’s just a bad engine. Unfortunately, I am a long time Honda guy but I am leaning toward a Camry for the next car. Maybe next week when the Accord gets back from the stealership.
I have a 2018 1.5 Sport, had a blown head gasket at 87k miles. After Honda tore down the engine, they discovered that the head was warped as well. So in all, I had to fork over $11,000 for both a new engine head and head gasket. I hope there is some sort of compensation later down the road.
2019 Accord Touring 2.0T - 66K miles. Blown head gasket and $5K in repair costs, plus the month long car rental while they wait on the back ordered 06110-6B2-A00 Head Gasket seal kit. The fact that it is backordered nationwide, may be an indication of how much of a problem this is with these engines. I did not tune or abuse this engine, other than having a 45 mile each way commute every day - which is why I bought a "reliable" Honda...
I got $3900 left to pay off my vehicle but $4800 to fix it. I have 96k miles on it. In your opinion would you trade it in and put the $4800 towards a newer vehicle or just fix it and wait until it breaks again? Knowing what you know, what would you do?
I'd trade it in with any Hondas using the non-turbo engine such as the 2.0 Hybrid or HRV. 2025 Toyota Camrys with the Hybrid system also looking very good. They have the e-CVT which is better than the normal CVT.
@@frankm7707a regular cvt in Toyota is fine. People often confuse eCVT with regular cvt. My 2020 Corolla has the CVT without the first gear it doesn’t even have a turbo in it and it’s been flawless. So any Toyota you get you are fine.
I had a 2018 Accord ex-l that had oil dulition. I now have a 22 Sport 2.0 with 29,000 miles. No problems so far except the fact the infotainment system can act coo coo sometimes.
I just replaced my spark plugs at dealer and all fluid related maintenence; days later the car started loosing coolant and now dealer recommended new engine on my 2.0 honda accord 2021
I have know for a long time Honda QUALITY is going down. Starting with the 1998 Honda Accord! In those years the power door locks would go bad, automatic transmision failure, ignition switch go bad, the interior parts were cheapened, and that is just scratching the surface of their problems.
I have had the water swishing sound. Car overheated 2 weeks ago they recommended water pump fan switch thermostat and sensor .2000 dollars to fix that.told them a was feeling rough start in the morning for about 1 month before overheating.after fixing water pump issue car almost stalled and misfired.i took it to dealer for the new problem they now said it is the head gasket.is it possible that the earlier problem I reported actually caused the overheating?
I have a 1.5 L, few months ago some problems with a lot of warnings came up in my dashboard, until this day i had replaced my sparkplugs, cleaned the gas tank, checked the injectors, and the problem still persist. Im really worried that the engine head gasket is about to blow up, the code appearing in the scanner is P304 which is misfire in cylinder 4. Im looking for other car options now, this is my first car and its kind of difficult for me to keep up paying for inspections, reparations, etc. It´s sad though cause i really liked the way this car looks and drives.
I dont know why he says there's no evidence of why this is happening, when there have been several vidoes released where people have checked the stock head bolts, and the tq was not only very low, they were inconsistant. If the stock gasket is MLS, which every Honda HG I've ever seen was, and as long as the mating surfaces are true, a set of ARP head studs should solve this issue.
From my research I did the block of the engine has groves that allow coolant to flow and blow the headgasket also the torque specs are only 22 pounds which I believe not enough pounds and with the head lift helps the headgasket blow.
The factory head bolts were 22 ft/lb followed by 165 degrees of rotation to get the correct stretch. It would be nice to know what the torque would be at that point. I replaced my head bolts with ARP studs and torqued to 70 ft/lb when I did my head gasket. Hopefully, that will hold it together for a long time.
I just went through this pain. It hurts get a good used car warranty. Mine cover the cost I just paid 600 for finding the problem Wich is mostly overhead by the shop. Cause I told them what was the problem. But their answer was , we have our system Which was to test bs for 3 hours to tell me my battery is bad 🤣 But after arguing with them, and ask them to just do a pressure test and combustion test. Yay I was right 🤣 Fuck their system 😂 They still go my 600😢😢😢😢
I just replaced the head gasket in my 2018 civic 1.5 EX-T at 89K. L15B7 engine. Oil changes at 5k miles. Head gasket failed on #3 at the #4 side. Used an OEM gasket and replaced the head bolts with ARP studs. Hope that will keep it together.
The first sign I had was a miss fire at start for the first few seconds after it sat for 12 to 24 hours. That was the time it took to leak a few drops of coolant into the cylinder. Once that got blown out, the miss fire would go away and run normal. It sounds like it's normally cylinders 3 or 4. Actually, the first sign was before the miss fire, I noticed a slight gurgling in the dash just after I started it. That was due to low coolant. I got lucky and caught it before it over temped the head.
Problem is oil changes do not correlate with head gaskets blowing. It will only insure that the engine itself and turbo are taken care of. The head gasket is being taken out by a couple of factors mainly from the head studs not providing enough clamping force from either pushing the car hard or detonating from 87. Then the head is compromised and begins to leak from the cooling section in between the cylinders. Same issue Ford had and changed. So the stronger head studs will work. Honda may have run too much boost with this engine. Especially since most of its customers run 87. If the cooling section was removed and the power was reduced or the head studs were changed to something much beefier I can see it work on 87 very reliably since we do not hear of turbo failures almost at all.
@@theholt2ic219 I completely agree with you on the oil change interval. I threw it in there because I knew someone would ask. It would be nice if the coolant slot between the cylinders walls in the block wasn't there. That is exactly where it failed.
@@efeisty1oh fuck man im having the same issues with the start up it sound rlly rough for the first few seconds but it goes away. scared that my hg is abt to blow but my car is barely at 23k miles im trying to get rid if her asap as much as i love it
That's why they are dumping the 1.5T in the Civic with the 2.0 Hybrid. If you are buying a 1.5T, get the Honda Care extended warranty and sell it before the warranty expires. This Honda mechanics has detailed information on this issue. He mentioned his shop is routinely fixing that. th-cam.com/video/age8_Mi5sEU/w-d-xo.html
I had to top off my coolant on my 17 EX-T since I bought it with 38k miles. I sold it at 175k because it started skipping and misfiring. The oil smelled like straight up gasoline too. Worst car I’ve ever owned, had so many electrical issues.
I loved my 2021 Sport 2.0T, but I started seeing a number of small issues that started to shift me away from Honda. Recently sold it, stories like this reinforce my decision. Thanks Chad.
@@JayyB9092.0t seems to be a very reliable motor even when modified. The 1.5t engines are the ones that have high failure rate. If you are considering getting a 2.0t I wouldn’t be worried. My car has 80k miles on it pushing 400whp since 20k and it’s never given me problems
Well, taking a car with known head gasket issues and tuning it to pressures the OEM hardware wasn't designed for seems to me to be the perfect example of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" or the "fcuk around/find out" graph.
@TheLemonFactor yes, my coolant level is dropping and going into where the head gasket is. Honda said I'm way past warranty and there is nothing they can do. Except pay them $5000 to fix it
@@jayo8484 that's the problem Honda stating it's good to run 87 when in reality it's not and the root of the proble. I mean just look at the Civic Si guys they don't have this problem since for most part Civic Si owners will run 91 or better.
@@moe2527 yea that’s dirty of them and I think they did it for marketing reasons. You get the car thinking that you only have to put 87 but once you have it you find out it’s 91. I always put shell v power in my 23 touring but that is still shady.
There is just about no car made in the last 6 years years that you can own without a warranty these days. They all have major issues. CVTs, carbon buildup, head gaskets, fuel dilution. paint issues, AFM. Oil pumps, timing chain guides, etc. The list is endless. Not sure I'll ever buy another new car with the intent of owning it once the warranty expires. 3 year leases for me.
My head gasket blew sunday, and since coolant got into the engine i have to get a whole new engine. Called honda corporate and they said they couldnt do anything about it. Im at 113k and over my warranty
@TheLemonFactor it idled off somewhat Thursday evening but I thought it might of been the result of just bad gas. Switch from 87 octane to 89 to see if it helped and it did mostly. Drove it down to miami from jacksonville fl, didn't use it all weekend when I got back on the road to head up to jax I broke down in Miami on interstate 95. Multiple lights came on and it wouldn't go anymore than 30 mph
Mannnn. Oil dilution is a problem with a bunch of direct injection applications. You can help the longevity of your engine by making sure you aren’t only driving short trips. Oil catch can would be nice to have as well. Most importantly staying on top of maintenance.
And that's why I am upgrading the internals in my 2.0T this summer to after put the Prl700 or the new turbo from RV6 (not the 660) but the one that will match the Prl700 (not yet release). If my tuner is right.
For those that are experiencing loss of coolant, it’s not just that you can be burning coolant and need to keep adding some, there’s a chance that enough coolant might pool in the cylinder after shutting the engine off due to pressure remaining in the coolant system and you can hydrolock the engine causing bent or snapped rods.
@TheLemonFactor 1.5 .... Not to my knowledge. After I changed the head gasket fuel injectors and spark plugs, I started using the highest grade gas possible and earlier oil changes.... so far, so good. I wanted to trade for the 2.0 buy. I'm starting to hear they have this issue on smaller scales .. still in love with the Accord Regardless (The 2026 Model looks 😍)
My 1989 Mazda MX6 GT Turbo was 25 years old when I sold it. It never had a turbo-related issue. Its head gasket was very reliable. Maybe some modern cars have excessive boost. Back in 89, my Mazda's boost was 6 psi.
@@TheLemonFactor 102K, it started acting up at about 88k. so much coolant would go into the combustion chamber the ECU would go into limp mode. In limp mode you can only drive 10 miles an hour. Youll find a place to stop. Turn the engine off wait about 2 minutes and restart the car. You have to be VERY VERY gentle on the throttle. When I replaced the engine The car wouldnt go any faster than 40 MPH to go faster required more boost. OH yea my car was BONE stock
@@qwuapobanks5124 the problem is people like to use 87 octane to power a turbo gdi engine lol.Civic Si owners don't have this problem because for most part they like to run 91 or better and it's the same 1.5t.
@@moe2527 I got my 2.0 0 miles coming out the since that time I only use 93 premium shell but ig people are diff and putting regular on a turbo car that’s like putting regular on a v8
Man o man. Seems like this channel goes right along with my Accord troubles. In early January I hit the accelerator to try and beat a red light. I heard a weird noise, and my car wouldn't accelerate. I have a 2018 Touring. Smoke was coming from my exhaust and from oil cap when I removed it. Took it to the dealer and gave me a quote for 12,000 bucks. That was for a new engine though and only mentioned a used one once I took my car somewhere else. I was thinking maybe they can fix or rebuild it. Apparently, it was not repairable. Took it to 3 different mechanics, including Honda dealer. Everyone said I need a new motor. $6,330 bucks and 2 months later, got a used engine with 17k miles. It's still hurting my pockets. Now I ride like a granny and no music on. Every sound I hear freaks me out. I hate living like this😂. P.s all i ever use is 93
I think ppl are trying to mod 1.5t when they shouldn't be & they dont do proper maintenance on their vehicles. Haven't had a single issue with my 2.0t 2019.
also running premium fuel is a must in these car s.....2018-22 manuals say 87 is fine BUT 2023-24 say 91 or better is required........I think we know why......blown head gaskets, honda just wont amid it.
Yep, the amount of people and money being spent trying to make an Accord a muscle car and the general lack of routine maintenance is wild to me. The second you start pulling apart and modding, you increase risk of problems. But blame the car/manufacturing.
@@joediesle Honestly I think it should mainly be performance mods on the 1.5 that shouldn't be done. Intake and exhaust should be alright, but tunes for the 1.5 are definitely susceptible to a blown head gasket eventually. Aesthetic mods also should be okay. What do you think? There are some pretty nice builds for the 1.5's
If you over maintain it, don’t drive it hard, and watch all your temperatures it is alright of an engine. I have a 2022 civic with it and it is at 30 thousand miles changing the oil every 3 thousand miles, changing the transmission oil at 25 thousand along with spark plugs. Very fuel efficient just needs to be pampered a lot.
This needs to be a class action lawsuit. This is ridiculous 79k and I have a blown head gasket 🤦😫
😮 I’m sorry to hear that ☹️
Do you have a 1.5 or 2.0?
@@brendoncuenca104 1.5
What fuel did u use and oil change interval
@@user-uk1oq4to6b I was 87. Using 93 now
I have a 2019 Hybrid, 2.0 Atkinson cycle engine and got a blown head gasket at 160,000 miles. I babied it and ALWAYS used Shell 89. Cost me 4,800 to repair. First symptom was misfire during stop/go traffic. Then engine overheating a few days later. Thankfully I didn't drive it after the first overheating issue and got it diagnosed. They did a coolant compression test and borescope to look inside cylinder and saw coolant, confirming gasket gone bad.
Same here 2018 hybrid with 104000 miles
I got a 18 Hybrid and I'm getting low coolant, water swishing sounds when I power on my car and misfires here and there maybe even some cold start up sputter. Don't know if it might be a small head gasket leak but I got a 1200km road trip I'm about to do so I might find out soon
Did they give you receipt !?
same thing happen to me on my 18 Accord Hybrid.
I have a 18 Accord hybrid and experience the dreaded random detonation. Always use high quality brand gas and recently only premium. Fuel additives reduce the problem temporarily but I suspect carbon build up is the culprit due direct injection.
I'm at 90k miles and have an extended warranty that runs out soon, so I'm going to get the dealer to do a compression and scope to hopeful positively identify the problem on their watch and have it repaired under warranty.
Although Honda is relatively reliable, they've seemed to always flip flop between transmission and engine problems. Once they get these engine problems straight, they'll have tranny failures for the next decade smh.
I’m a honda master tech. It is due to the thinner ceiling area between the cylinders. For whatever reason, Honda put a small cut in between the cylinders so there’s less sealing surface. And I agree you guys all need to sue Honda. I’m pretty sure my 2.0 head gasket is starting to leak now and my wife’s 1.5 at 56,000 miles already had to have a head gasket replaced.
I commented on turning this car into something it's not a long time ago. Turbos and computers make it so easy to "tune" an engine into problems. You're taking an engine that's receptive to a tune and then dialed it to 11. With turbos on just about everything , I think you're going to see various problems on "sporty" cars. And throw a dose of GDI and you got another layer of complication. Now you probably have cylinder wall damage and it's gonna end up being scrap. From a reliable source -- "The differences in the the pistons are confirmed by the diagrams. The Accord piston is a fairly standard flat top design with valve reliefs cut into it while the Type R piston shows a more complex D-cup dish which is likely necessary to reduce detonation for the more aggressive tune. The changes to the Type R pistons are not cheap as they list for $216.67 which is five times more than the list price of the Accord pistons."
No wonder i see a bunch of 1.5t 10th gen hondas under 40k miles for sale on Autotrader. I never saw this many for sale for the 8th gen.
JD Power ratings are not reliability ratings. Check 2023 Consumer Reports reliability study. Acura in the 4th place, Honda 5th.
Yeah when I saw nissan above acura and honda I knew that thing was smoked out😂
When I wanted to upgraded my turbo on my 2.0 the shop wouldn't do it unless I let them upgrade the head gasket to the cometic gasket. They said they factory gasket wasn't able to handle the additional pressure and heat.
Interesting… that shop had the forethought 🤔👍
also do ARP headstuds.
Have you seen PRLs new lower engine mount? It just came out a few days ago for the 2.0t and they claim increased stiffness with no additional noise or vibrations, unlike the street hasport mounts. It might be worth checking out
I’m using InlinePRO M-Series Head Studs and never have a problem and now im about 505 whp and 520 of wtq This week I reinforced the engine with connecting rods and pistons I hope all goes well
Nice! What turbo are you using?
Much like the 1.5 arp studs Do you think that you can get away with replacing them one by one following the torque specs to avoid pulling the head?
@@TheLemonFactor MHI stage 2 I also installed port injection recently but it needs to be tuned again to run full E85
@@ROBMACDUI on 1.5 I don’t know really sorry 😟
@@ROBMACDUIyes
There is a Honda tech posting tons of videos of 1.5T Accords blowing head gaskets . I own the car , and I put 93 . I want to keep the car at least another couple of years . I am worried , but I have a warranty . It would be a nightmare if the car has to sit for months waiting in a shop for head gasket repair . I do have some confidence keeping the car since I seen a lot of high mileage 1.5T Accords with no issues.
Mine just blew at 130k miles. I’m still driving it. Taking it slow and topping off coolant every morning until I can get the funds to have the repair done. Some days it doesn’t need any
It is inevitable it will happen, sell that POS as fast as you can.
The 1.5 is just a combination of way too many issues.
Its a thin weak block that is susceptible to deformation under pressure and heat, reducing the reliability of the head gasket. Thr headgasket bolt pattern is also not that great, not having the best pressure distribution. Running low octane fuel and causing LSPI doesnt help. And fuel dilution lowering the oil flash point and cook off temperature exacerbates it.
The B16 NA look way overbuilt compare to L15.
Yeah there’s minimal material between the cylinders for the HG to seal to and the bolt pattern isn’t great for the head. Couple that with turbo charging it, you’re gonna have long term issues on either engine. The l15 and K20 in N/A form are bulletproof engines but once you add boost the weak points start to show themselves.
102k miles and I got a head blown gasket 😭😭😭 I traded it in for an Acura TLX type S : D
Honda took a crap in terms of reliability with the 1.5t Accords.
2018 accord 75k needs a new gasket after my 2nd set of injectors and sparkplugs smh
Best thing about my 2018 1.5 L turbo is I only have 6 payments left!
Nice
Me too but I need to replace my head gasket now! I got $3900 left to pay off my vehicle but $4800 to fix it. I have 96k miles on it. In your opinion would you trade it in and put the $4800 towards a newer vehicle or just fix it and wait until it breaks again? Knowing what you know, what would you do?
@@arijinal come to Toyota
The 1.5L L15 engine internal are identical to Fit L15 engine. The parts are the same just stick a turbo change piston ring and call it a day. The engine was never designed to boost, the con rod are smaller than D series (aka weakest Honda engine in 90s) make more power than K20. It's at max from factory, but when covid hit parts supply get interrupted quality drop the max engine will have problem. (L15 make B16 look like way overbuilt)
Can anyone help? My coolant levels for my reservoir are low to empty nowadays i have to top it off every couple days or so. And on cold starts the idle is so rough and is missfiring very badly im leaning towards my hg but i have a couple of months until i pay her off praying she makes it until then so i can sell her n get something else. Could it be my injectors or is it most likely my hg and how much time do i have should i just trade her in rn before it actually blows? Car is a 2021 1.5t with barely 23k miles..
At this point I'd recommend NOT driving the car and having your radiator fluid tested as discussed @ 6:30. There are inexpensive, easy to use test kits found on Amazon... you can find the link in the description of the video.
@@TheLemonFactorshit i gotta drive it tho i dont have a choice cus of work dont know what to do so annoying n sad.
@@TheLemonFactorupdate i rented a tester kit from autozone and the fluid stayed blue the whole time didnt budget the color at all so i think its not my headgasket maybe my injectors ill get them tested by a shop but for now my headgasket is fine just gotta figure out where my coolant is going cus shes guzzling coolant
@Xccord I’d highly recommend you get the car into a mechanic ASAP!
It’s for sure your headgasket bro. The chances of having a coolant leak with a rough cold start both being separate issues are like 1 in a 100. These cars when head gasket blows it’ll pass all the test cause it only leaks a lil bit of coolant.
Literally this past week my 2020 accord head gasket went out. I’ve got 76,000 miles on it
I’m sorry to hear that 🫤. What symptoms did you experience? Did the dealership help pay for any of the repairs?
2019 accord 1.5t just a daily driver. Oil changes done at 3k or sooner, never tuned, never raced, couldn’t tow anything with it because it has no tow capacity. Even the Honda service guy said it was obvious that I took care of the car. It’s just a bad engine. Unfortunately, I am a long time Honda guy but I am leaning toward a Camry for the next car. Maybe next week when the Accord gets back from the stealership.
Are you experiencing symptoms, having problems with your Accord?
I have a 2018 1.5 Sport, had a blown head gasket at 87k miles. After Honda tore down the engine, they discovered that the head was warped as well. So in all, I had to fork over $11,000 for both a new engine head and head gasket. I hope there is some sort of compensation later down the road.
I also put 91 octane since I purchased it at 27k miles
😮 that’s horrible - I’m sorry to hear that. Honda didn’t cover any of it? Did they indicate what caused it?
2019 Accord Touring 2.0T - 66K miles. Blown head gasket and $5K in repair costs, plus the month long car rental while they wait on the back ordered 06110-6B2-A00 Head Gasket seal kit. The fact that it is backordered nationwide, may be an indication of how much of a problem this is with these engines. I did not tune or abuse this engine, other than having a 45 mile each way commute every day - which is why I bought a "reliable" Honda...
Oh man, that sucks… and at 66k miles too 😮. Did you try to get Honda to cover it? Hopefully you’re good now 🤞
I got $3900 left to pay off my vehicle but $4800 to fix it. I have 96k miles on it. In your opinion would you trade it in and put the $4800 towards a newer vehicle or just fix it and wait until it breaks again? Knowing what you know, what would you do?
I'd trade it in with any Hondas using the non-turbo engine such as the 2.0 Hybrid or HRV.
2025 Toyota Camrys with the Hybrid system also looking very good. They have the e-CVT which is better than the normal CVT.
@@frankm7707a regular cvt in Toyota is fine. People often confuse eCVT with regular cvt. My 2020 Corolla has the CVT without the first gear it doesn’t even have a turbo in it and it’s been flawless. So any Toyota you get you are fine.
My 2019 2.0T is leaking oil... timing cover case. Mechanic quoted over $800 to remove and reseal.
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I’ve read this is common on a lot of 2 liter Honda engines 😢
I had a 2018 Accord ex-l that had oil dulition. I now have a 22 Sport 2.0 with 29,000 miles. No problems so far except the fact the infotainment system can act coo coo sometimes.
Stop running 87
I just replaced my spark plugs at dealer and all fluid related maintenence; days later the car started loosing coolant and now dealer recommended new engine on my 2.0 honda accord 2021
Never heard anybody complain about 23, 24 Hondas I know a bunch of people with 40k + miles on them I work at a dealership
I have know for a long time Honda QUALITY is going down. Starting with the 1998 Honda Accord! In those years the power door locks would go bad, automatic transmision failure, ignition switch go bad, the interior parts were cheapened, and that is just scratching the surface of their problems.
Do you still own your 2019 2.0? If so, how many miles are you at?
Yes, I do still have the Honda Accord. Not sure of the mileage, I’d have to check 🤔
@@TheLemonFactorhey I'm getting a water swishing sounds when I power on the car, 18 Hybrid, is this something you ran into
I have had the water swishing sound. Car overheated 2 weeks ago they recommended water pump fan switch thermostat and sensor .2000 dollars to fix that.told them a was feeling rough start in the morning for about 1 month before overheating.after fixing water pump issue car almost stalled and misfired.i took it to dealer for the new problem they now said it is the head gasket.is it possible that the earlier problem I reported actually caused the overheating?
And my car has 182000 miles on it
What I mean is was the head gasket causing all of the problems I was having?
I have a 1.5 L, few months ago some problems with a lot of warnings came up in my dashboard, until this day i had replaced my sparkplugs, cleaned the gas tank, checked the injectors, and the problem still persist. Im really worried that the engine head gasket is about to blow up, the code appearing in the scanner is P304 which is misfire in cylinder 4. Im looking for other car options now, this is my first car and its kind of difficult for me to keep up paying for inspections, reparations, etc. It´s sad though cause i really liked the way this car looks and drives.
Dump it. Usually cylinder 3 misfire=blown headgasket. Cylinder 4 same thing
I dont know why he says there's no evidence of why this is happening, when there have been several vidoes released where people have checked the stock head bolts, and the tq was not only very low, they were inconsistant. If the stock gasket is MLS, which every Honda HG I've ever seen was, and as long as the mating surfaces are true, a set of ARP head studs should solve this issue.
He said, "Conclusive" evidence...
This is why as much as Honda keeps offering me to trade my v6 accord, I refuse. The engines have become too small and too much forced induction.
I liked the old V6 - my wife had one, great car 👍😁
@@TheLemonFactor agreed. Turn off vcm, timing belt every 8 years or 80k miles, and they're just SMOOTH
Mostly 10th generation Accord with head gasket issue. What about the 11th generation? Or is it still early?
It’s the same 1.5L engine
Same engine but the tuning is different and 91 is recommended now
From my research I did the block of the engine has groves that allow coolant to flow and blow the headgasket also the torque specs are only 22 pounds which I believe not enough pounds and with the head lift helps the headgasket blow.
The factory head bolts were 22 ft/lb followed by 165 degrees of rotation to get the correct stretch. It would be nice to know what the torque would be at that point.
I replaced my head bolts with ARP studs and torqued to 70 ft/lb when I did my head gasket. Hopefully, that will hold it together for a long time.
I just went through this pain.
It hurts get a good used car warranty.
Mine cover the cost
I just paid 600 for finding the problem Wich is mostly overhead by the shop.
Cause I told them what was the problem.
But their answer was , we have our system
Which was to test bs for 3 hours to tell me my battery is bad 🤣
But after arguing with them, and ask them to just do a pressure test and combustion test.
Yay I was right 🤣
Fuck their system 😂
They still go my 600😢😢😢😢
That sucks 😬😔
This guy explains why the headgasket blow up
Just get the 2.0 NA.
My 18 hybrid burned coolant as well starting 120k…
I just replaced the head gasket in my 2018 civic 1.5 EX-T at 89K. L15B7 engine. Oil changes at 5k miles. Head gasket failed on #3 at the #4 side. Used an OEM gasket and replaced the head bolts with ARP studs. Hope that will keep it together.
What exactly are signs of bad head gaskets?..I have 2020 honda civic 1.5 t
The first sign I had was a miss fire at start for the first few seconds after it sat for 12 to 24 hours. That was the time it took to leak a few drops of coolant into the cylinder. Once that got blown out, the miss fire would go away and run normal. It sounds like it's normally cylinders 3 or 4. Actually, the first sign was before the miss fire, I noticed a slight gurgling in the dash just after I started it. That was due to low coolant. I got lucky and caught it before it over temped the head.
Problem is oil changes do not correlate with head gaskets blowing. It will only insure that the engine itself and turbo are taken care of. The head gasket is being taken out by a couple of factors mainly from the head studs not providing enough clamping force from either pushing the car hard or detonating from 87. Then the head is compromised and begins to leak from the cooling section in between the cylinders. Same issue Ford had and changed. So the stronger head studs will work. Honda may have run too much boost with this engine. Especially since most of its customers run 87. If the cooling section was removed and the power was reduced or the head studs were changed to something much beefier I can see it work on 87 very reliably since we do not hear of turbo failures almost at all.
@@theholt2ic219 I completely agree with you on the oil change interval. I threw it in there because I knew someone would ask. It would be nice if the coolant slot between the cylinders walls in the block wasn't there. That is exactly where it failed.
@@efeisty1oh fuck man im having the same issues with the start up it sound rlly rough for the first few seconds but it goes away. scared that my hg is abt to blow but my car is barely at 23k miles im trying to get rid if her asap as much as i love it
That's why they are dumping the 1.5T in the Civic with the 2.0 Hybrid.
If you are buying a 1.5T, get the Honda Care extended warranty and sell it before the warranty expires.
This Honda mechanics has detailed information on this issue. He mentioned his shop is routinely fixing that.
th-cam.com/video/age8_Mi5sEU/w-d-xo.html
I had to top off my coolant on my 17 EX-T since I bought it with 38k miles. I sold it at 175k because it started skipping and misfiring. The oil smelled like straight up gasoline too. Worst car I’ve ever owned, had so many electrical issues.
DO NOT BUY THIS POS VEHICLE 60k miles cracked head gasket without low coolant or any light for overheating… simply told this is common for accords.
I loved my 2021 Sport 2.0T, but I started seeing a number of small issues that started to shift me away from Honda. Recently sold it, stories like this reinforce my decision. Thanks Chad.
I still love my Accord, but these things do make me nervous 😬
Can you name some of those issues. I recently found a 2022 2.0t and I'm now debating if I should've went for something else
@@JayyB9092.0t seems to be a very reliable motor even when modified. The 1.5t engines are the ones that have high failure rate. If you are considering getting a 2.0t I wouldn’t be worried. My car has 80k miles on it pushing 400whp since 20k and it’s never given me problems
@@huntrusso10at?
@@nqrdman yes
Where I live in Canada, we have problems with the CRV engines, Accords or Civics failure are very rare.
should i buy honda accord 2024 with 1.5 turbo?
i only use premium fuel 95 octane
Well, taking a car with known head gasket issues and tuning it to pressures the OEM hardware wasn't designed for seems to me to be the perfect example of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" or the "fcuk around/find out" graph.
I have a 2015 Honda 2.4 coupe and I was told my head gasket is leaking oil. In shop now getting fixed.
Same exact issue with my 2016 Civic. Honda needs to do a Recall!
Did it happen to you?
@TheLemonFactor yes, my coolant level is dropping and going into where the head gasket is. Honda said I'm way past warranty and there is nothing they can do. Except pay them $5000 to fix it
😫😠. That sucks! I’m sorry to hear that.
@@albeezyso what did you end up doing?
@@alvinsimba734 just did an engine swap
Does this affect the new Integra
Yes L15 turbo are garbage.
hi . what about the new gen accord 2023-2024 . did honda fix this problem ?
Any ideas on the mileages of the cars with these symptoms?
They all run 87 octane
@@moe2527the owners manual says 87 or higher top tier fuel but Honda just put on their website now 91 or better atleast for the 23 accords.
@@jayo8484 that's the problem Honda stating it's good to run 87 when in reality it's not and the root of the proble. I mean just look at the Civic Si guys they don't have this problem since for most part Civic Si owners will run 91 or better.
@@moe2527 yea that’s dirty of them and I think they did it for marketing reasons. You get the car thinking that you only have to put 87 but once you have it you find out it’s 91. I always put shell v power in my 23 touring but that is still shady.
@@jayo8484 yeah nobody's buying a Accord LX if the requirement is 91 or better lol
Why does he recommends to use higher octane gas? What is the science behind it.
The introduction of the turbo was a horrible idea
I doubt I would have purchased the car if it didn’t have the turbo 🤔🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor the 2.4 K2 NA engine was probably the best they made. Got 326k miles on mine when I sold it. Fast great gas mileage reliable
There is just about no car made in the last 6 years years that you can own without a warranty these days. They all have major issues. CVTs, carbon buildup, head gaskets, fuel dilution. paint issues, AFM. Oil pumps, timing chain guides, etc. The list is endless. Not sure I'll ever buy another new car with the intent of owning it once the warranty expires. 3 year leases for me.
Disagree. I work at Toyota and have owned over 25 Toyota and Lexus models. They're still very reliable.
My head gasket blew sunday, and since coolant got into the engine i have to get a whole new engine. Called honda corporate and they said they couldnt do anything about it. Im at 113k and over my warranty
I’m sorry to hear that 🫤. You must be quite upset. Is your Accord a 1.5 or 2.0L?
@@TheLemonFactor I am for sure, it's the 1.5 lt
Any warning signs / symptoms before it blew? I assume the head / block is warped and that’s why they’re saying you need a new engine?
@TheLemonFactor it idled off somewhat Thursday evening but I thought it might of been the result of just bad gas. Switch from 87 octane to 89 to see if it helped and it did mostly. Drove it down to miami from jacksonville fl, didn't use it all weekend when I got back on the road to head up to jax I broke down in Miami on interstate 95. Multiple lights came on and it wouldn't go anymore than 30 mph
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Mannnn. Oil dilution is a problem with a bunch of direct injection applications. You can help the longevity of your engine by making sure you aren’t only driving short trips. Oil catch can would be nice to have as well. Most importantly staying on top of maintenance.
And that's why I am upgrading the internals in my 2.0T this summer to after put the Prl700 or the new turbo from RV6 (not the 660) but the one that will match the Prl700 (not yet release). If my tuner is right.
Isn’t the 2.0l already forged?
@@ROBMACDUI from factory, yes but I just express my self the bad way. I mean that I will upgrade the connecting rods and piston, etc.
Rv6 is not making another turbo lol
No lol
For those that are experiencing loss of coolant, it’s not just that you can be burning coolant and need to keep adding some, there’s a chance that enough coolant might pool in the cylinder after shutting the engine off due to pressure remaining in the coolant system and you can hydrolock the engine causing bent or snapped rods.
Changed mine a month ago ..😢
1.5L or 2.0L? Any engine damage?
@TheLemonFactor 1.5 .... Not to my knowledge. After I changed the head gasket fuel injectors and spark plugs, I started using the highest grade gas possible and earlier oil changes.... so far, so good. I wanted to trade for the 2.0 buy. I'm starting to hear they have this issue on smaller scales .. still in love with the Accord Regardless (The 2026 Model looks 😍)
Honda claims that the current generation of 1.5 L has different bolts and a different gasket.
I’ve not heard that. 🤔. That would be great if true. Can you please cite your source?
And still a lot of them don't have any issue )))
Stay away from turbos OR DIRECT injection engines.
My 1989 Mazda MX6 GT Turbo was 25 years old when I sold it. It never had a turbo-related issue. Its head gasket was very reliable. Maybe some modern cars have excessive boost. Back in 89, my Mazda's boost was 6 psi.
Jsut replaced my engine in my 2.0t accord. Ive been using Sunoco 93 with this "new engine"
Oh man, sorry to hear that 🫤. How many miles did you have on the engine before it went?
@@TheLemonFactor 102K, it started acting up at about 88k. so much coolant would go into the combustion chamber the ECU would go into limp mode. In limp mode you can only drive 10 miles an hour. Youll find a place to stop. Turn the engine off wait about 2 minutes and restart the car. You have to be VERY VERY gentle on the throttle. When I replaced the engine The car wouldnt go any faster than 40 MPH to go faster required more boost. OH yea my car was BONE stock
@MrColdasiice did it really take them that long to successfully diagnose the problem?
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Any issues with the Type R?
Yes, seen a few here in the UK with blown motors. I think Honda and turbo just dont mix.
Any number regarding 2.0t failures?
Not very common on 2.0 more on 1.5 keep it stock and don’t push it crazy and this won’t happen
@@qwuapobanks5124 the problem is people like to use 87 octane to power a turbo gdi engine lol.Civic Si owners don't have this problem because for most part they like to run 91 or better and it's the same 1.5t.
@@moe2527 I got my 2.0 0 miles coming out the since that time I only use 93 premium shell but ig people are diff and putting regular on a turbo car that’s like putting regular on a v8
@@qwuapobanks5124 for the 23 an newr accords on hondas website themselves now recommend the use of 91 octane fuel lol
Man o man. Seems like this channel goes right along with my Accord troubles. In early January I hit the accelerator to try and beat a red light. I heard a weird noise, and my car wouldn't accelerate. I have a 2018 Touring. Smoke was coming from my exhaust and from oil cap when I removed it. Took it to the dealer and gave me a quote for 12,000 bucks. That was for a new engine though and only mentioned a used one once I took my car somewhere else. I was thinking maybe they can fix or rebuild it. Apparently, it was not repairable. Took it to 3 different mechanics, including Honda dealer. Everyone said I need a new motor. $6,330 bucks and 2 months later, got a used engine with 17k miles. It's still hurting my pockets. Now I ride like a granny and no music on. Every sound I hear freaks me out. I hate living like this😂. P.s all i ever use is 93
Ouchh… sorry to hear that ☹️. Was this a 1.5L or 2.0L?
@@TheLemonFactor 2.0 Touring
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I think ppl are trying to mod 1.5t when they shouldn't be & they dont do proper maintenance on their vehicles. Haven't had a single issue with my 2.0t 2019.
I wouldnt mod a 1.5 just because of the CVT trans its self .
also running premium fuel is a must in these car s.....2018-22 manuals say 87 is fine BUT 2023-24 say 91 or better is required........I think we know why......blown head gaskets, honda just wont amid it.
Yep, the amount of people and money being spent trying to make an Accord a muscle car and the general lack of routine maintenance is wild to me. The second you start pulling apart and modding, you increase risk of problems. But blame the car/manufacturing.
@@joediesle Honestly I think it should mainly be performance mods on the 1.5 that shouldn't be done. Intake and exhaust should be alright, but tunes for the 1.5 are definitely susceptible to a blown head gasket eventually. Aesthetic mods also should be okay. What do you think? There are some pretty nice builds for the 1.5's
In a nutshell, if you mod your car, you’re putting yourself at risk for this damage.
Actually, this is happening with a number of unmodified Accords as well 🤷♂️🫤
@TheLemonFactor You think unmodified 2.0t are at risk too? This exact reason is why I avoided the 1.5
Jeez just when I thought I bought a dependable car, time to get rid of it? 2021 accord touring 2.0t with 15k
@@mcgubber3500I'm fairly certain that Mazdas and Toyotas are not having problems like this.
@@davepaturno4290The new Toyota Tundras are horrendous. Engines are blowing up.
Are ppl afraid to work on these cars? Or what’s the deal?
If you over maintain it, don’t drive it hard, and watch all your temperatures it is alright of an engine. I have a 2022 civic with it and it is at 30 thousand miles changing the oil every 3 thousand miles, changing the transmission oil at 25 thousand along with spark plugs. Very fuel efficient just needs to be pampered a lot.
That sounds like an awful lot of pampering and not much fun 🫤
@@TheLemonFactor yeah I know but I would like to make the engine and transmission last a long time
@@TheLemonFactor it is a very weak designed engine internally too