Yep, but you could say the same about George and the Prequel Trilogy. The only plus point for the prequels were that it was all on George…..with the amount of writers on the sequel trilogy you would have thought one of them had a clue! 😂
@@arghjayem On the contrary, Lucas knew exactly what he wanted to do with the prequels. His execution left much to be desired (by his own admission he isn't the best director), but the prequels still had a unified, internally consistent narrative about the fall of Anakin Skywalker and the rise of the Empire. The sequel trilogy, by contrast, had many different creative forces attempting to shape it, leading to constant rewrites throughout production.
It didn't help that when Disney bought Star Wars (*cough* pressured George to sell it *cough*) they took all of the post -RotJ material and declared it non-canon. Then, making matters worse, Iger got dollar signs in his eyes and pushed for rapid deadlines to release a new SW movie about every other year, leading these writers, who clearly had no dedication to the scrapped source material and a PC agenda to carry (with the notable exceptions of Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni), to rush through these projects for the sake of milking the cash cow.
thing is, they didnt make toys of the knights in the standard "kids" line, just the more expensive, more articulated for collectors lack Series line... they didnt even make a Rise of Skywalker toy line sales were so bad from Last Jedi toys...
@@MaCabarethe didn’t know what it was. He stole it from a group known as the Irving boys and didn’t think much of it. He wanted to strip it for parts, it was rey that convinced him not to.
3:24 In the clone wars qui gons force ghost taught yoda how to become a force ghost and also in obi wan Kenobi qui gon teaches obi wan how to become a force ghost and we see anikans ghopst at the end of the original trilogy
About to say the same thing. Those 3 get a pass in my book. I'll even give it to Luke since Anakin's force ghost probably at some point taught Luke that knowledge
And none of it matters because Rey wasn't channeling only Force Ghosts, but every Jedi who had returned to the force, as all non-sith living things do when they die in Star Wars. The specific voices heard were more for the audience's beneift, as nods to the fallen jedi that we would be familiar with.
It boils down to this: Clueless and incompetent management. Disney should have managed Johnson, Abrams, Lucasfilm, and Kennedy *_wayyy_* better than they did. And Lucasfilm (read: Kennedy) should have had their shit together rather than just kriffing winging it.
@@markgladwell8927The actors did fine with what they had. The problem was that the writers didn't give them much to work with as they had no clear plan or vision.
To be honest, I still think Ep7 and Ep8 are fine to great in their own right. Yes, 7 was blatantly following the blueprint of the original film, but I kinda get that - it was the first film without Lucas and LucasFilm probably didn't want to rock the boat too much, simply send fans a gentle reintroduction that assured them this was the same franchise they had always loved. Ep8, whilst not perfect, had some genuinely interesting ideas and seemed set to take the franchise in a bold new direction. It was only when Ep9 retconned most of Ep8 and gave us a lackluster conclusion that made no sense and was clearly done in reaction to the divisive response to Ep8 and Solo that it became clear LucasFilm had no vision for this series and were simply looking to make as much money off them as possible, damaging Ep7 and Ep8 in retrospect because it's now clear that they had no idea where they were going with the interesting threads they did seed. Such a shame, but at least SW has mostly redeemed itself with the Disney+ content (Boba Fett notwithstanding!)
I agree lol, BUT.....bigger problems is ppl like these who know nothing about Star wars, and don't seem like actually watched em, their answers is not only answered in movies for most, lol scenes they show answers them, like hilt, and kylo escape,
@@DoctorRaymanEp 8 was literally some odd mix of empire strikes back and return of the jedi with some weird twists and plotholes. Argueably episode 8 is even worse than 9
I've purged these three films from memory, aside from being awful movies, they completely negate the original trilogy and even render the prequels pointless, therefore, they do not exist in my personal canon.
@@1980sforever I'm a child of the 70's and the original is still the best... But I made my peace with the prequels a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
@@chrismartindale7840Personally I dont care for Legends or Disney canon. Legends also had a lot of the stuff that people criticize the Sequels for like Palpatine returning as a clone.
3:29 it's not really a plot hole in the sense that Yoda tells Obi-Wan that Qui-Gon trained him after he died. In fact, at the end of revenge of the sith, Yoda tells Obi-Wan that he has some new training for him from an old friend. Chances are good Yoda taught a lot of Jedi how to communicate through the force post death after he was taught by Qui-Gon.
Yoda was taught by Qui-Gon, he trained Obi-Wan, they both trained Luke. Anakin was trained in the last 30 seconds of his life. And The others were all dead before Yoda was trained as at the end of Revenge of the Sith he specifically states an old friend has RECENTLY returned from beyond. Teach you to commune with him I will. We know Qui-Gon taught Yoda. So it was something that took place during the film.
@SHFirefly totally agree. I was going to write this myself. Qui-Gon Jinn taught Yoda. We saw this in the Clone Wars series. Yoda taught Obi-Wan Kenobi. We saw this a the Revenge Of The Sith. I would agree that he taught many of the Jedi we heard in the ROSW, but I believe that maybe they could of mentioned that face in ROTS when he told Obi-Wan about the training he has for him. He could of added that he taught other Jedi, as well. However, Yoda could not have taught Kannan Jarrus/Caleb Dunn, he was still a padawan at the time. He most likely did not teach Anakin either because of the apparent anger and fear Anakin showed in ROTS and his fall to the darkside. And he definitely could not have taught Ashoka Tano. She was a padawan and she left the order before Yoda was taught. Those three are still questionable.
@@chrisschultze6974 Obi-Wan taught Anakin in the last 30 seconds of his life. This is canon. Has his eyes closed after seeing Luke, he hears Obi-Wan you teaches him to become a force Ghost, so while Ashoka and Kannan maybe questionable Anakin is not.
well,this bombers could be made primarily for in atmosphere use. Then again, why use bareilly serviceable in space condition crafts instead of something less suicidal? Was rebels really *that* desperate?
They tried to play it off as if the bombs were magnetic or something silly like that. Agree with you 100%. It was at this early point in the movie, especially after the preceding Poe Dameron dialogue, that I realized this movie sucked. I kept watching, hoping there would be a turning point for redemption. It never came. The woman I sat next to left wisely during the Liea Poppins scene, salvaging another hour of her life. I wasn’t as smart. I’ll never forget a group of us strangers, brought together in a shared horrifying experience, looking at each other in disbelief once the credits finished and the theater lights illuminated our pallid faces. As the haze cleared from my consciousness, I vividly recall the following words escaping my lips; “W’thefug did we just watch”. And that is the moment I realized Star Wars was in its death throes
Agreed, that annoyed the sh*t out of me. They were trying to tap into that WWII aesthetic that the originals used so well. But the tactics of using drop-bombs in space is just so stupid when forward-firing torpedoes are a well-established part of the universe. That whole opening scene of The Last Jedi just made me mad. In fact, I think it’s the one movie of the three that pissed me off the most.
@@liamcullen3035 You never saw Empire Strikes Back? Tie Bombers were introduced in that movie, bombing the asteroid where the Falcon was hiding. My understanding is that the bombs are attracted to the gravity of the objects they are bombing - and may also be given some impetus by the bomber when first released.
@@SimonAshworthWood You raise a good point, and yes, I am fully aware of TIE Bombers. However, they never dropped bombs on a *warship* from above. In other media that featured TIE Bombers, the gravity-dropped bombs were always used on planetary ground targets, and instead they used missiles to attack warships. Bombing the thousands of asteroids in an asteroid field in an effort to flush out The Falcon is, admittedly, also pretty dumb. But at least it wasn’t (presumably) as suicidal as Poe’s insubordinate bomber attack.
The worst plot hole EVER.. is an ENTIRE FLEET of STAR Destroyers that MAGICALLY show up each with a cannon that can kill a planet.. fully crewed at the butt end of NOWHERE. Lets not think of the economics of how much that would cost in crew and material. It is THE STUPIDEST IDEA I have EVER SEEN in a movie.
The crews were likely cloned. But as for where they got the materials to build the ships? Would've been a perfect opportunity to bring the Star Forge into the Disney Canon, especially since Lehon and by extension the Rakata were recanonized pre-TFA. But alas.
the superlaser part was stupid, but in the Legends Comic Books Dark Empire, the Emperor is reborn in clones body and they had a massive fleet. Though they were at Byss rather then Exegol. It was a little-known planet at the edge of the galaxy and funneling troops and clones there secretly was much simpler. They also at least explained how the Emperor was reborn and made sense.
TPM is an independent movie. If Lucas says release it then it’s released. ROS has no excuse it had to go through a bunch of final approvals from Disney
I haven’t seen ROS in awhile so I may have overlooked something, but something that always bothered me is that you see Rey and Ren both taking this crammed, tight, obstacle-ridden path to Exegol in tiny starfighters, using the wayfinder, but then Lando somehow brings thousands of massive star cruisers to Exegol with seemingly no issues in record time…
Not sure a true Star Wars fan made this video… the force voices… ok, so anyone who saw revenge of the sith remembers when yoda tells obi wan that his master has returned through the force, and that he would teach him how to communicate with him. This wasn’t something that was just made up in that show to explain how the Jedi were able to do this, it existed long long before that. Qui Gon, trained with the force priestesses yet never finished his training, therefore he couldn’t fully retain any form, qui gon taught yoda, and he went to learn from the priestesses how to keep his body, and taught obiwan… whom in turn taught anakin in final moments just before his consciousness slipped into the void. I don’t know about the others, why they would all suddenly be able to… that doesn’t make sense based on the lore, but the point is, from qui gon to anakin… and Luke… yes they all learned this ability.
*My questions:* 1. Why is there a time gap of 30 years between Episode VI & VII? There were 32 years between Episode I & IV.. 2. How did the pieces of the Death Star II land on a planet with a large ocean even though it was blown up above a forest moon? 3. Why is Han back again a smuggler 30 years after leading a first mission for the Rebellion? Wasn't that he wished to become? 4. Did the writers look at all the Star Wars media & thought the plot of the sequels were solid? Or did they just copy Episode IV-VI? 5. How did Rey learn to use the Force if she wasn't trained by any Jedi prior to Luke in Episode VIII?
@@leecroft1983 Revenge of The Sith Is a masterpiece, It has Great writing, good and sad story and explains how Darth Vader was Born, making the character even Better, having a tragic story To not mention that It got lots of interesting characters like General Grievous, Count Dooku and more. (Ik he's not only there but we're still talking about the prequels) It has some iconic lines, some really Good designs, cool graphics and It got the best Lightsaber duels, unlike Darth Vader vs OB1 in A new Hope...prequels are underrated movies and tbh Revenge Of The Sith is at ROTJ's level for me, both the best movies of their own trilogy
One of biggest plot holes is Luke's saber (which was actually Anakin's) "somehow" being found on Bespin after it fell down the garbage chute, after Luke's hand was severed by Vader, before making its way to some random cantina on a different planet. Also, that we are to believe the emperor's throne room could be detonated by a planet busting super laser's explosion, hurled into space, leave the gravity of the Sanctuary Moon and cross over to this other moon and then descend through its atmosphere without burning up and then crash landing into an ocean without being smashed to bits all while the throne is still INTACT!?!?!? is...unbelievable. These movies are just bad!
I don’t have as big a problem with the death star bits ending up semi-intact on a different moon of the same planet. It’s cool enough and the physics isn’t really that much of a stretch. They gave some unnecessary explanation in one of the novels about the debris being ejected through hyperspace, but that bunk isn’t at all necessary. I imagine the sturdiest part of your superlaser weapon is going to be the boss’s room. Seems like what Imperial engineers might do. And debris caught in orbit of the Forest Moon could easily be destabilised and pulled down onto Kef Bir when they pass each other, assuming they have different orbital periods. Metal chunks of debris that large would also absolutely survive re-entry. It’s smaller rocks that completely burn up on their descent, but rocks much smaller than those death star bits make it to Earth’s ground intact all the time. I don’t see why they had to make it a different planet - the forest moon probably had some oceans. Maybe they didn’t want any hints of Ewok.
Lets not mention the ancient dagger found in some random cave that they accidentally fell into, only have it match the shape of a blown up deathstar that rest on a completely different planet.
@@OneStrangeDeer actually the dagger wasn't ancient. It was forged after the death stars destruction. It was on a different planet because oshi happened to have it on him when he fell into the sinking field
Let me see if I got this straight... the Death Star explodes, parts get flown all about, a major piece heads towards this one planet, pierces its atmosphere, thuds to a stop... and still the throne room windows intricate lattice-work manages to stay mostly intact. Ok. 😂
Seriously. The Death Star should have been disintegrated into unrecognizable pieces. I call serious shenanigans on that much of the Death Star somehow being intact.
on top of that, the death star also exploded across the entire galaxy, so the real question here is how did it go from the space outside the moon of endor to the outer rim
@Umbreedon it did not. The remains of the Death Star landed on a moon above endor,.where that damn desert rat found it. And the Throne room that she goes into, was built on a very tall tower above the surface of the Death Star. That may be a reason they showed it. Now don't get me wrong. I hated the ending of this movie and a lot of its scenes. Here are a few, 1. How the desert rat Rey was able to overpower the strongest and most powerful Sith Lord to ever been born. She should not have been able to, all the jedis be damned. Palpatine had all of the former Sith Lords.
@@Umbreedon2nd, how this rebel fleet managed to be organized, and made their way to Exogal through the wild space. 3. How suddenly all the Final Order Star Destroyers suddenly were destroyed or sabatoged. At this point in the movie, the First Order had the entire galaxy under its control.
@9:52 Kylo's Kef Bir Escape is no big mystery. He roped a couple of sea turtles to make a raft. The rope used to create a raft was from ‘human hair from his back’. 🤔🤔
Re: the Falcon's fuel. According to the (canon) Force Awakens: Incredible Cross-Sections, the Falcon uses liquid metal fuel to power its sublight engines. So as long as the fuel tanks don't leak there should still be enough fuel to run.
In the EU Novels, it's also stated that the Falcon has a "scoop" that can also convert raw hydrogen & other elements into fuel for the sublight & lightspeed engines in an emergency.
9:16 - 9:20 "By all accounts and purposes, the most likely person to be the chosen one was Anakin." Most likely? Dude, George Lucas, himself, confirmed that Anakin was the chosen one. From Episode I to Episode VI, Anakin/Darth Vader was the main character and the one who brought balance to the Force.
Regarding Rey and her Force abilities: It is well-established in SW that a Jedi feels the Force best when they are, to quote a certain diminutive green individual, "calm, at peace...passive." The shock of seeing the ship explode and the horrific thought that "OMG I JUST KILLED CHEWIE" would have interfered with Rey's fledgling ability to sense his presence. As to the lightsaber, Rey's entire life up to this point was spent on a planet where she had to scavenge absolutely everything she needed to even survive. It is made very, glaringly obvious that the lightsaber has been repaired, in the very footage used for this video. If you look at 0:40 where it broke, you can see that it split along the shiny silver band above the handgrip. Then at 1:07 we see that exact area of the split has been repaired: that area is now a different metal sleeve with a black band that has small screws and obvious welds above it.
Any of the plot holes related to inconsistencies between films is probably just explainable as the writers and directors probably not actually watching the other films. The sequels were just two directors trying to erase each other's work
The killing of Palpatine was not what brought balance to the Force. Balance doesn't mean everything is just the good guys. Anakin brought balance by bringing the Jedi to their knees and leveling the field.
I always thought this since the Phantom Menace. "The Chosen Ome will bring balance to the Force" At the time there were 2 Sith in hiding and thousands upon thousands of Jedi spread across the galaxy enforcing law and order. Balance in that context only meant one thing. That Anakin would destroy the Jedi. It always bugged me that Masters like Yoda and Windu could not see that obvious conclusion.
@@charliejjrome Yeah I completely agree, it really doesn't make sense that they wouldn't understand what balance means. For them it was like "There's nothing bad happening so all is balanced."
@@charliejjromeI agree. I think perhaps it may be explained that the Jedi council was arrogant enough to think that "balance" meant peace, and that only them could provide that. That maybe that bias clouded even Yoda and others. The Jedi Council being out of touch and having a sense of moral authority is a common theme in the prequel series and shows. The Jedi also saw the dark side as a perversion of the force, so they may have interpreted that "balance" implied the removal of that perversion. Otherwise it would seem kind of obvious to me that at the time of the prequel series and the clone wars that the Jedi and light side greatly outweighed the Sith and dark side users. Anakin and Vader's actions greatly "balanced" the two by largely wiping out most of both, which was proportionally more Jedi than Sith.
I don't even consider the sequel trilogy as canon. Honestly anything Disney puts out nowadays I consider Star Wars spinoffs (and calling them spinoffs is generous)
"The Sith have been extinct for a millennia" yet the force is out of balance and there's a prophesy to bring it back? Now THAT'S a plot hole! Anyway, Annie was chosen to bring balance to the force by destroying the Jedi, which he did in ROTS. It was a Sith prophesy that had been "misread" as Yoda put it,....and this is a hill I'm willing to die on, lol.
Jesus Christ. You can't say "how did any of the Jedi voices work" and not mention the Clone Wars, and then bring up The Chosen One prophecy from the prequels where the prequels VERY CLEARLY state that it was misread. Qui Gon taught Yoda how to become one with the force in the Clone Wars series, and again taught Obi-Wan in his series. Yoda taught Luke, and could very easily have taught any of the other masters who appeared in voice form. Luke could have taught Asohka since they interacted. The only 2 that don't make sense are Anakin, which was a pothole from Return of the Jedi created by the prequels, and Kanan.
supposedly from what i've heard, obi-wan taught anakin how to do it in the seconds before his death. don't recall where that info originates from unfortunately.
Yoda only suggests the prophecy was misread nothing more. And as for Anakin becoming a force ghost so easily, he was literally created from the Force, so it's not a stretch that he was able to do it.
Kylo escaped using a TIE/LN (you can see it at 10:38 behind Ben Solo) which somehow survived the second DeathStar's explosion but the point is that TIE/LN don't have hyperdrives...
It never explained that TIE unable to hyperdrive to cover up another plot hole that space is a one way ticket. You never going to visit the same place twice since the past is gone.
@@elliotclough6702 those are first order ties. Ben arrives in an imp tie. There's 30 years of development between the two. The tie Ben arrived in should not have a hyperdrive.
I think a lot of the praise heaped on these films is greatly exajurated. I recall many of these moments (outside of that holding the blaster bolt in suspension) actually were eviscerated by hands including Palpatine's return.
Did anyone else notice the lack of new ships. If you look at the difference between the prequels and the original trilogy you immediately see the vehicles variety. When you compare the sequels to the OT you notice: Fighters: same Bombers: same Heavy walker: same Light walker: same Interceptors: same Star destroyers: I guess they get a pass
I was going to make a similar comment - really, no technical enhancements in over 30 years!! Also, after destroying the Empire, the rebels seem to still be rebels - makes a mockery of the ending of Return of the Jedi!
3:03 I’m very confused when you say “the rest of those Jedi”. The very first time we saw a force ghost was obi wan… who learned it from the second force ghost we saw, yoda. Yoda taught it to both of obi and qui gon. We also see anakin as a force ghost who presumably didn’t learn it from obi since yoda taught it to obi after anakins turn. But the idea that yoda might’ve taught it to a few more Jedi isn’t out of the question. Especially since they died almost 15 years after qui gon.
@@ToucanSonofSam333 not like 9 year old Anakin who wins a race in a sport impossible for his species, then singlehandedly destroys a battleship that an entire naboo fleet couldn't...
@@Bobdobbinks "entire naboo fleet" was made for parades. They fighters are expensive and theoretically powerful, but pilots had little real combat experience. As for a race, it's not really impossible to win for humans, just difficult. And, he competed there for years. It's not like he won at first try without any training. Not to mention that he almost lost actually.
@@sirtaelellevalerie1056 no, it was a security force, read Plagueis or the queens shadow trilogy - confirmed in both canon and legends. They might have lacked experience but so do the rebels. Hell, the guy that blew up the death star has never been in a dogfight before. "I'm the only human that can do it." "You must have jedi reflexes if you race pods." Childhood exaggeration aside. Anakin was using the force untrained to see the near future, and do something that (by qui-gon's estimation) was on the level of a trained jedi. "He can see things before they happen. That's why he appears to have such quick reflexes, it's a jedi trait." As far as we know, he had only one prior experience in a pod - when he crashed watto's pod after sebulba sabotaged it. Almost lost? He started in last place (I'm not counting Ben quadrinaros) and was able to repeatedly overtake sebulba. He only lost ground because of sebulba's dirty tricks and sabotage. Rey also has confirmed prior experience for all her feats, yet people still call bull...
@@Bobdobbinks "They might have lacked experience but so do the rebels. Hell, the guy that blew up the death star has never been in a dogfight before." - a lot of rebel pilots was defectors from imperial fleet. And it wasn't first fight for most of them. (according to official RPG their leader was veteran of the clone war, he was memder of planetary defence fleet). As for Luke, he isn't actually did all that well in his first battle, just barely managed it in fact. "As far as we know, he had only one prior experience in a pod" Watto said that Anakin are really good racer, which imply that he participated more than in that one race when he crashed.
This "plot hole" is explained in TFA if only you paid some attention instead of crying hard about a female protagonist. She is strong with the force and is able to pick up a sense of abilities from other force users. In the interrogation scene she learns how to read thoughts because Ren is trying to read hers. This is where you're supposed to realise her strength. She learns more about her abilities the more she is with Ren and Leia
Biggest plot hole to me is both Palpatine and Snoke both proclaimed, "It's as I have foreseen." then they die. How come they didn't foresee their traitorous allies?
Luke’s lightsaber isn’t *exactly* the same in Rise of Skywalker, it’s clearly been repaired with a new switch and black band around the middle. Heck, it’s not even the same between A New Hope and Empire with the on-universe story being that Luke modified it between the movies, and Obi-Wan clearly worked on it between Revenge of the Sith & A New Hope too.
Yeah i stopped the video right there. Something that is clearly shown on screen if you pay a minimum of attention is a Pothole? Yeah not worth my time.
Another one is when Rose stops Finn from sacrificing himself in the last Jedi. Finn is going full speed directly at the target in a straight line and she is facing the other way, and then must do a wide arc to just stop Finn, who was going at full speed in the same type of ship. Physics, guys. Physics.
We just don't know how the Cosmic Force operates. I'd say it's safe to assume that once someone in the Living Force can figure out how to commune with the dead, that they could teach others who have already passed on to commune with the living.
One question I had at the end of Ep 7, why the hell is Rey and Leai hugging like old friends? they never met, they dont even really know each other exist up until that point.
I still genuinely think there was a story being developed where we would find out Rey was Luke's daughter or Kylo's twin or something like that but then someone at Disney saw the rumor mill and decided they just had to "surprise" us with what we got instead. It's like the sticker saying "Your Snoke theory sucks". Yeah it would have just been terrible if the big baddie was actually someone we've seen before like oh Starkiller? Building a Starkiller base? Just because one person might predict what you're going to do with a story doesn't mean you HAVE to change it but here we are. Just my theory though.
Man I don't mean to hate but uh... you can see weld repairs on Luke's lightsaber, and Rey has all the ancient Jedi texts. I don't think it would be that difficult to learn how to fix it.
Also bro, did yall not watch Revenge of the Sith? The part where Yoda tells Obi-Wan that Qui Gon found the path to immortality? Qui Gon taught Yoda, who taught Obi-Wan, who taught Luke, and hell they probably found every other Jedi in the afterlife and taught them too.
@@almostadonovan Or Bad Batch or Mandalorian where they go into cloning with blood of force sensitive beings. Or even the Clone Wars story arc where Anakin meets the Mortis Gods.
I’m writing a Star Wars story that’s based on my own life and the lives of my family members. When you’re telling a story you’re telling a story using tools. You’re not using tools to tell a story. My Star Wars story is also going to be inspired by the movies and tv shows that I grew up watching and it’s also going to be inspired by politics. The story talks about the light side and the dark side. One of the things that fans can expect is that the stakes are going to be extremely high because the Empire is going to do everything in their power to destroy the Rebel Alliance. The story talks about how evil and manipulative the Empire really is. In the story we get to see more of the hardcore Vader. When the Star Wars sequel trilogy it was just inspired by Star Wars. When Star Wars the original trilogy came out, it was inspired by the Vietnam War, World War II, samurai films, and spaghetti western films. The Star Wars sequel trilogy was just a cheap imitation of the original trilogy.
Kyber crystals were not brought into movie canon until Rogue One. I suppose that with the opening The Force Awakens, she certainly could have found a kyber crystal, thought it was pretty, and kept it until she learned what it is. Yes, that could work.
10) Rey is a top notch mechanic, and Leia had secret Jedi training and personal laser sword. I'm pretty sure they could figure out how to fix a simple thing, like a lightsaber.
The Jedi believed that bringing "balance to the Force" meant eliminating the Sith. But at the end of episode III, Anakin had brought balance, from a certain point of view: 2 Sith lords remained, as did 2 (canon) Jedi masters.
@@SeanWheeler100 there were also a bunch of non-jedi, non-sith force users kicking about, the odd nightsister, and who knows what else, it's a big galaxy. My personal take on it is that Anakin did bring balance to the force - within himself. for that one moment, when Vader and Anakin warred over whether to let Sheev kill his son.
Wrong bro, the real part is when that space worm in Empire Strikes Back spits out Naboo and revives the trade federation, and when Mon Cala goes into civil was with the Clones. Sad to see Huyang died to Tuskan Raiders on Endor:( Episode 11: Come on, Return of the COUNTER-SITH???
Of course there are other plotholes, such as when Luke asked Leia about her real mother, and they completely condradicted her statement, with the prequal, having Padme die, before Leia could get to know her. Plus, how did they get Synergy from the Jem And The Holograms movie, and re-named it BB-8? Take care, and all the best.
Qui-Gon most definitely taught yoda how to transfer himself into the force after death. In return of the Jedi Yoda disappears after he dies just like Obi-Wan did in new hope. We get more context for the this in the final episode of clone wars S6. Also we are lead to assume that Qui-Gon also taught obi-wan when he was in exile on tatooine since at the end of revenge of the sith Yoda tells obi-wan he has been in contact with Qui-Gon
Then he gives the "definition" of stupidity as repeating the same actions are expecting different results. That's the definition of insanity not stupidity
@@solvseus also Leia: *Had has training as a Jedi yet decided to pack Ben off to Luke. *Didn't ask Luke why Ben fell to the dark side. *Didn't try to find or reach out to Ben after he turned, just accepted his fall and moved on. *Decided to give her life to distract her son precisely while he was in a duel, giving his opponent the chance to stab him. *Didn't communicate with her son when he needed her help to defeat Sidious. But that's alright, because she supports the Palpatine heiress as a force ghost.
So Glad I never Watched another SW movie after Disney's Mess of their first Disney's SW Movies Also if the SW Series are coming out with this Crap Glad I never watched any Disney and all these SW Comic writer Nuts Have turned SW into a Completely Different Story which no one would have watched if these Fools had got their hands on doing the first SW Movies SW would have Flopped some where in the Galaxy never to have been heard of Again
The Rey movies are nothing but a dream sequence (daydreaming) made up in the mind of Ray herself... If you think about it. How does anyone. 1) Meet their Heroes. 2) Join the fight against the Empire and the Emperor 3) and Discover they are special? The whole thing for Ray is unbelievable. I bet she is still eating her food, with that Rebel helmet, and thinking about What if?
One problem with the force ghost plot hole. Would know that Quiring on tart Obi-Wan this ability from the Kenobi series, Quagen tart Yoda from the canon, Star Wars, the clone wars in an animated TV show. This show takes please early enough that Yoda could’ve passed the knowledge on to the other characters mention.
They've definitely seen them but it's doubtful they're actually fans. Content is content though. Thats not to say there isn't evidence that at least some of the writers haven't even watched Star Wars. Perfect example is stating Palpatine had "lived for hundreds of years." Who wrote that line in the script? Did they just see an image of him and assume he's gotta be that old? Just completely made it up? Palpatine was in his 80s in The Rise of Skywalker.
Regarding the force ghost thing, that was covered in the Clone Wars - Qui Gon was contacted by some force-powerful group, I forget which, and taught certain lessons, which he didn't have time to fully figure out by his death, so he can communicate but not manifest. Yoda was later contacted by the same group, and was able to learn these lessons properly, allowing him to become a full ghost. At the end of Revenge of the Sith, Yoda says to Obi-Wan that he'll teach him how to commune with Qui-Gon, and perhaps was also further tutored by Yoda, opening the way for him to become a force ghost, which we know he did. As far as I know, no other Jedi we're aware of should ever have become a force ghost.
Last night they were on TV (probably because they're cheap to run!) and it was just unwatchable. I settled for an episode of Friends while I ate. I'm like "I work hard. I deserve better!"
3:24 in the Star Wars the clone wars tv show, Jin taught Yoda how to become a force ghost, then he taught Obi Wan, Obi Wan then taught Anikin just after he died before he truly became one with the force ghost
1. If you actually look at the lightsaber you can see a band holding together. Rey repaired it using the texts she took from the tree in TLJ. If you think Rey couldn't do it because she never did before, then how did Luke build his green one in ROTJ? 2. Unkar Platt could have been keeping up with maintaince. The lights all still work in the Falcon and unless you have a number for how long it takes fictional space fuel to dry up, this isn't a plot hole. Hell Luke's XWING works after being submerged in a swamp for 3ish months. 3. In TCW Qui-gon communicates with Yoda after his death and tells him how to live eternally in the force. So if ANYONE was able to communicate with Rey, it would be him 4. Palpatine say "With no family here to save you" Also the lightning didn't kill him in ROTS so if anything he was banking on his power not killing him and it probably wouldn't have, but Rey was "all of the jedi" so they were clearly helping her 5. Palpatines body is inhabiting a clone. No clone no resurrection. Simple. 6. Plot devices. Luke didn't sense Chewies presence on Ach-to and did sense that Han had been moved to Boba Fetts ship and he didn't sense there was a Rancor right below him when taking to Jabba. So you most likely need to be looking for someone to find them, makes sense right? 7. Yep. They definitely had *and could have* a big role pre-sequel trilogy we'll just need to wait but like you said not a plot hole 8.Boba fett fell into the mouth of a Sarlacc and survived. Poe fell into sand he could have climbed radioed the new republic and gotten off Jakku. 9. "A prophecy misread, could have been" - Yoda That prophecy has always been weird that not a sequel issue 10. He's the Supreme Leader of the First Order, he could easily call someone to come get him just like poe None of these are plotholes, it's a nitpick
There were only three plot holes in the sequel trilogy -1. Force Awakens, 2. The Last Jedi, and 3. The Rise of Skywalker.
Exactly
Facts!
So clever! The copium is real
What cope? Disney Star Wars is utter, and total garbage. A complete failure on almost every front.
THAT PART
It’s almost like the “writers” didn’t have a clue what they were doing.
Yep, but you could say the same about George and the Prequel Trilogy. The only plus point for the prequels were that it was all on George…..with the amount of writers on the sequel trilogy you would have thought one of them had a clue! 😂
@@arghjayem Prequels was masterpiece in comparison to new trilogy.
They/them writers
@@arghjayem On the contrary, Lucas knew exactly what he wanted to do with the prequels. His execution left much to be desired (by his own admission he isn't the best director), but the prequels still had a unified, internally consistent narrative about the fall of Anakin Skywalker and the rise of the Empire. The sequel trilogy, by contrast, had many different creative forces attempting to shape it, leading to constant rewrites throughout production.
It didn't help that when Disney bought Star Wars (*cough* pressured George to sell it *cough*) they took all of the post -RotJ material and declared it non-canon. Then, making matters worse, Iger got dollar signs in his eyes and pushed for rapid deadlines to release a new SW movie about every other year, leading these writers, who clearly had no dedication to the scrapped source material and a PC agenda to carry (with the notable exceptions of Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni), to rush through these projects for the sake of milking the cash cow.
The Knights of Ren were the perfect analogy to this trilogy. There to boost hype, sell toys, do nothing useful and ultimately be a disappointment.
Constable Zuvio would like a word.
thing is, they didnt make toys of the knights in the standard "kids" line, just the more expensive, more articulated for collectors lack Series line... they didnt even make a Rise of Skywalker toy line sales were so bad from Last Jedi toys...
He speaks the truth!
Phasma too
Hate to play Devil's advocate, but Lucas did the same exact thing in the prequels and originals, most notably with Boba Fett.
Even more unbelievable is that the Falcon hasn't had a lot of its components stripped. The economy of Jaqu seems to be based on junkyard parts
Unkar Plutt owned it. He would have known what it was and wouldn’t have let it be stripped.
@@MaCabaret value he didn't monetize. Why acquire it and then store it?
@@MaCabarethe didn’t know what it was. He stole it from a group known as the Irving boys and didn’t think much of it. He wanted to strip it for parts, it was rey that convinced him not to.
They couldn't find a cutting torch strong enough to penetrate the Falcon's plot armor.
It was a store house/ home for thst joggly punk@@eq2092
3:24 In the clone wars qui gons force ghost taught yoda how to become a force ghost and also in obi wan Kenobi qui gon teaches obi wan how to become a force ghost and we see anikans ghopst at the end of the original trilogy
Yoda also mentions this at the end of Revenge of the Sith to Obi Wan
About to say the same thing. Those 3 get a pass in my book. I'll even give it to Luke since Anakin's force ghost probably at some point taught Luke that knowledge
And none of it matters because Rey wasn't channeling only Force Ghosts, but every Jedi who had returned to the force, as all non-sith living things do when they die in Star Wars. The specific voices heard were more for the audience's beneift, as nods to the fallen jedi that we would be familiar with.
It boils down to this: Clueless and incompetent management.
Disney should have managed Johnson, Abrams, Lucasfilm, and Kennedy *_wayyy_* better than they did.
And Lucasfilm (read: Kennedy) should have had their shit together rather than just kriffing winging it.
and untalented Actors, looking at you Rey and Finn
They took the most valuable franchise on the planet and fucked it up
@@markgladwell8927The actors did fine with what they had. The problem was that the writers didn't give them much to work with as they had no clear plan or vision.
The entire final trilogy was a disaster that made no sense.
To be honest, I still think Ep7 and Ep8 are fine to great in their own right. Yes, 7 was blatantly following the blueprint of the original film, but I kinda get that - it was the first film without Lucas and LucasFilm probably didn't want to rock the boat too much, simply send fans a gentle reintroduction that assured them this was the same franchise they had always loved. Ep8, whilst not perfect, had some genuinely interesting ideas and seemed set to take the franchise in a bold new direction. It was only when Ep9 retconned most of Ep8 and gave us a lackluster conclusion that made no sense and was clearly done in reaction to the divisive response to Ep8 and Solo that it became clear LucasFilm had no vision for this series and were simply looking to make as much money off them as possible, damaging Ep7 and Ep8 in retrospect because it's now clear that they had no idea where they were going with the interesting threads they did seed. Such a shame, but at least SW has mostly redeemed itself with the Disney+ content (Boba Fett notwithstanding!)
I agree lol, BUT.....bigger problems is ppl like these who know nothing about Star wars, and don't seem like actually watched em, their answers is not only answered in movies for most, lol scenes they show answers them, like hilt, and kylo escape,
Except for Rose...her and Jar Jar should get together and have dumb jedi😂
Amen
@@DoctorRaymanEp 8 was literally some odd mix of empire strikes back and return of the jedi with some weird twists and plotholes. Argueably episode 8 is even worse than 9
I've purged these three films from memory, aside from being awful movies, they completely negate the original trilogy and even render the prequels pointless, therefore, they do not exist in my personal canon.
This is exactly how I feel. We don't have to count these films because they are not Lucas films.
They aren't canon. Legends is.
I could not agree more and I have gone even further and always say that there are only 3 star wars movies, being the old originale ones of course.
@@1980sforever I'm a child of the 70's and the original is still the best... But I made my peace with the prequels a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
@@chrismartindale7840Personally I dont care for Legends or Disney canon. Legends also had a lot of the stuff that people criticize the Sequels for like Palpatine returning as a clone.
3:29 it's not really a plot hole in the sense that Yoda tells Obi-Wan that Qui-Gon trained him after he died. In fact, at the end of revenge of the sith, Yoda tells Obi-Wan that he has some new training for him from an old friend. Chances are good Yoda taught a lot of Jedi how to communicate through the force post death after he was taught by Qui-Gon.
And Anakin was taught by Obi-wan and Ahsoka was possibly taught by Anakin but everyone else? Who knows
Yoda was taught by Qui-Gon, he trained Obi-Wan, they both trained Luke. Anakin was trained in the last 30 seconds of his life. And The others were all dead before Yoda was trained as at the end of Revenge of the Sith he specifically states an old friend has RECENTLY returned from beyond. Teach you to commune with him I will. We know Qui-Gon taught Yoda. So it was something that took place during the film.
I was literally about to mention this XD
@SHFirefly totally agree. I was going to write this myself. Qui-Gon Jinn taught Yoda. We saw this in the Clone Wars series. Yoda taught Obi-Wan Kenobi. We saw this a the Revenge Of The Sith. I would agree that he taught many of the Jedi we heard in the ROSW, but I believe that maybe they could of mentioned that face in ROTS when he told Obi-Wan about the training he has for him. He could of added that he taught other Jedi, as well. However, Yoda could not have taught Kannan Jarrus/Caleb Dunn, he was still a padawan at the time. He most likely did not teach Anakin either because of the apparent anger and fear Anakin showed in ROTS and his fall to the darkside. And he definitely could not have taught Ashoka Tano. She was a padawan and she left the order before Yoda was taught. Those three are still questionable.
@@chrisschultze6974 Obi-Wan taught Anakin in the last 30 seconds of his life. This is canon. Has his eyes closed after seeing Luke, he hears Obi-Wan you teaches him to become a force Ghost, so while Ashoka and Kannan maybe questionable Anakin is not.
Fun fact: the soundbite of Alec Guinness' call to Rey was from his line in A New Hope when he told R2 "Don't be af-rai-d."
Anakin was the chosen one
Luke was the new hope
Rey was a mistake
If a plot hole is explained in a comic, it's not explained at all and is still a plot hole
Has nobody asked why you would build "bombers" for use in the zero gravity of space?
well,this bombers could be made primarily for in atmosphere use. Then again, why use bareilly serviceable in space condition crafts instead of something less suicidal? Was rebels really *that* desperate?
They tried to play it off as if the bombs were magnetic or something silly like that. Agree with you 100%.
It was at this early point in the movie, especially after the preceding Poe Dameron dialogue, that I realized this movie sucked. I kept watching, hoping there would be a turning point for redemption. It never came. The woman I sat next to left wisely during the Liea Poppins scene, salvaging another hour of her life. I wasn’t as smart.
I’ll never forget a group of us strangers, brought together in a shared horrifying experience, looking at each other in disbelief once the credits finished and the theater lights illuminated our pallid faces. As the haze cleared from my consciousness, I vividly recall the following words escaping my lips; “W’thefug did we just watch”. And that is the moment I realized Star Wars was in its death throes
Agreed, that annoyed the sh*t out of me. They were trying to tap into that WWII aesthetic that the originals used so well. But the tactics of using drop-bombs in space is just so stupid when forward-firing torpedoes are a well-established part of the universe.
That whole opening scene of The Last Jedi just made me mad. In fact, I think it’s the one movie of the three that pissed me off the most.
@@liamcullen3035
You never saw Empire Strikes Back? Tie Bombers were introduced in that movie, bombing the asteroid where the Falcon was hiding. My understanding is that the bombs are attracted to the gravity of the objects they are bombing - and may also be given some impetus by the bomber when first released.
@@SimonAshworthWood You raise a good point, and yes, I am fully aware of TIE Bombers. However, they never dropped bombs on a *warship* from above. In other media that featured TIE Bombers, the gravity-dropped bombs were always used on planetary ground targets, and instead they used missiles to attack warships.
Bombing the thousands of asteroids in an asteroid field in an effort to flush out The Falcon is, admittedly, also pretty dumb. But at least it wasn’t (presumably) as suicidal as Poe’s insubordinate bomber attack.
The worst plot hole EVER.. is an ENTIRE FLEET of STAR Destroyers that MAGICALLY show up each with a cannon that can kill a planet.. fully crewed at the butt end of NOWHERE.
Lets not think of the economics of how much that would cost in crew and material.
It is THE STUPIDEST IDEA I have EVER SEEN in a movie.
With you there. Once that bit was revealed in the 9th film, I was totally disappointed. Such lazy storytelling.
Somehow they showed up, like Palpatine. Somehow he came back.
The crews were likely cloned. But as for where they got the materials to build the ships? Would've been a perfect opportunity to bring the Star Forge into the Disney Canon, especially since Lehon and by extension the Rakata were recanonized pre-TFA. But alas.
Worst plothole ever? Nah. That’s Padme being like three months pregnant, then giving birth to two healthy twins four days later.
the superlaser part was stupid, but in the Legends Comic Books Dark Empire, the Emperor is reborn in clones body and they had a massive fleet. Though they were at Byss rather then Exegol. It was a little-known planet at the edge of the galaxy and funneling troops and clones there secretly was much simpler. They also at least explained how the Emperor was reborn and made sense.
Sean clearly hasn’t watched Star Wars because obiwan and yoda in episode 3 literally discuss communing with qui gon
There’s literal plot holes in his arguments 🤣🤣
The other Jedi didn't know that
Biggest plot hole is how so many people watched rise of skywalker and went yeah looks great, release it.
TPM: Hold my beer.
Spot on
TPM is an independent movie. If Lucas says release it then it’s released. ROS has no excuse it had to go through a bunch of final approvals from Disney
@@kentamikuriya1873 Guess that's why ROS is better than TPM.
Go one movie back. How "The Last Jedi" abomination ever got released is an affront to the entire series, ever.
I haven’t seen ROS in awhile so I may have overlooked something, but something that always bothered me is that you see Rey and Ren both taking this crammed, tight, obstacle-ridden path to Exegol in tiny starfighters, using the wayfinder, but then Lando somehow brings thousands of massive star cruisers to Exegol with seemingly no issues in record time…
Yeah, and one of the fighters doesn’t even have hyperdrive ability. And yet KK is still in power…
Yes, that was also incredibly annoying. Logic and consistency were thrown out for spectacle and cliché all throughout this trilogy.
@@liamcullen3035 very well said
Palp's return should be number 1. You can't just bring back such an iconic character with no explanation whatsoever
Not sure a true Star Wars fan made this video… the force voices… ok, so anyone who saw revenge of the sith remembers when yoda tells obi wan that his master has returned through the force, and that he would teach him how to communicate with him. This wasn’t something that was just made up in that show to explain how the Jedi were able to do this, it existed long long before that. Qui Gon, trained with the force priestesses yet never finished his training, therefore he couldn’t fully retain any form, qui gon taught yoda, and he went to learn from the priestesses how to keep his body, and taught obiwan… whom in turn taught anakin in final moments just before his consciousness slipped into the void. I don’t know about the others, why they would all suddenly be able to… that doesn’t make sense based on the lore, but the point is, from qui gon to anakin… and Luke… yes they all learned this ability.
*My questions:*
1. Why is there a time gap of 30 years between Episode VI & VII? There were 32 years between Episode I & IV..
2. How did the pieces of the Death Star II land on a planet with a large ocean even though it was blown up above a forest moon?
3. Why is Han back again a smuggler 30 years after leading a first mission for the Rebellion? Wasn't that he wished to become?
4. Did the writers look at all the Star Wars media & thought the plot of the sequels were solid? Or did they just copy Episode IV-VI?
5. How did Rey learn to use the Force if she wasn't trained by any Jedi prior to Luke in Episode VIII?
Did anyone else notice that Palpatine only use Force lightning in the last movie of each trilogy? I just realized that. Lol
In two of the three trilogy’s the last movie is the only one he’s in 😅
K...
I did
And he always seems to electrocute himself in the process!
Guys the voice of darth Vader has died
The entire sequel trilogy is a plot hole!
ain't that a fact.
Insanely expensive fan-fiction. All it is.
@@generation-gu5iz that's a good way to look at it :)
@@generation-gu5iz yup I'm going to go with that too.
DARTH VADER HAS PASSED AWAY RIGHT NOW 💔
The sequels make the prequels look like amazing movies
The prequels were always great films.
Only OGs know nothing will ever be as painful and as lore-breaking as the prequels. Even the Acolyte isn’t as cringe.
Bro's saying Revenge of Sith Is a bad movie
@@jetmarket1527I would say it is a very average movie, at best.
@@leecroft1983 Revenge of The Sith Is a masterpiece, It has Great writing, good and sad story and explains how Darth Vader was Born, making the character even Better, having a tragic story
To not mention that It got lots of interesting characters like General Grievous, Count Dooku and more. (Ik he's not only there but we're still talking about the prequels)
It has some iconic lines, some really Good designs, cool graphics and It got the best Lightsaber duels, unlike Darth Vader vs OB1 in A new Hope...prequels are underrated movies and tbh Revenge Of The Sith is at ROTJ's level for me, both the best movies of their own trilogy
One of biggest plot holes is Luke's saber (which was actually Anakin's) "somehow" being found on Bespin after it fell down the garbage chute, after Luke's hand was severed by Vader, before making its way to some random cantina on a different planet. Also, that we are to believe the emperor's throne room could be detonated by a planet busting super laser's explosion, hurled into space, leave the gravity of the Sanctuary Moon and cross over to this other moon and then descend through its atmosphere without burning up and then crash landing into an ocean without being smashed to bits all while the throne is still INTACT!?!?!? is...unbelievable. These movies are just bad!
@@cjraymond8827 nah, rise of Skywalker is bad. Now everyone is left with a bad taste in the mouth.
Well put!
I don’t have as big a problem with the death star bits ending up semi-intact on a different moon of the same planet. It’s cool enough and the physics isn’t really that much of a stretch. They gave some unnecessary explanation in one of the novels about the debris being ejected through hyperspace, but that bunk isn’t at all necessary.
I imagine the sturdiest part of your superlaser weapon is going to be the boss’s room. Seems like what Imperial engineers might do.
And debris caught in orbit of the Forest Moon could easily be destabilised and pulled down onto Kef Bir when they pass each other, assuming they have different orbital periods.
Metal chunks of debris that large would also absolutely survive re-entry. It’s smaller rocks that completely burn up on their descent, but rocks much smaller than those death star bits make it to Earth’s ground intact all the time.
I don’t see why they had to make it a different planet - the forest moon probably had some oceans. Maybe they didn’t want any hints of Ewok.
Lets not mention the ancient dagger found in some random cave that they accidentally fell into, only have it match the shape of a blown up deathstar that rest on a completely different planet.
@@OneStrangeDeer actually the dagger wasn't ancient. It was forged after the death stars destruction. It was on a different planet because oshi happened to have it on him when he fell into the sinking field
You shouldn’t have to read comics and books to understand a plot
Agreed.
Only 10? " You're shorter than I expected"
Let me see if I got this straight... the Death Star explodes, parts get flown all about, a major piece heads towards this one planet, pierces its atmosphere, thuds to a stop... and still the throne room windows intricate lattice-work manages to stay mostly intact. Ok. 😂
Seriously. The Death Star should have been disintegrated into unrecognizable pieces. I call serious shenanigans on that much of the Death Star somehow being intact.
Appalling 😂
on top of that, the death star also exploded across the entire galaxy,
so the real question here is how did it go from the space outside the moon of endor to the outer rim
@Umbreedon it did not. The remains of the Death Star landed on a moon above endor,.where that damn desert rat found it. And the Throne room that she goes into, was built on a very tall tower above the surface of the Death Star. That may be a reason they showed it. Now don't get me wrong. I hated the ending of this movie and a lot of its scenes. Here are a few,
1. How the desert rat Rey was able to overpower the strongest and most powerful Sith Lord to ever been born. She should not have been able to, all the jedis be damned. Palpatine had all of the former Sith Lords.
@@Umbreedon2nd, how this rebel fleet managed to be organized, and made their way to Exogal through the wild space.
3. How suddenly all the Final Order Star Destroyers suddenly were destroyed or sabatoged. At this point in the movie, the First Order had the entire galaxy under its control.
@9:52 Kylo's Kef Bir Escape is no big mystery. He roped a couple of sea turtles to make a raft. The rope used to create a raft was from ‘human hair from his back’. 🤔🤔
Honestly.... Idk why this comment doesn't have more likes... Hahaha best one I read so far!
Re: the Falcon's fuel. According to the (canon) Force Awakens: Incredible Cross-Sections, the Falcon uses liquid metal fuel to power its sublight engines. So as long as the fuel tanks don't leak there should still be enough fuel to run.
In the EU Novels, it's also stated that the Falcon has a "scoop" that can also convert raw hydrogen & other elements into fuel for the sublight & lightspeed engines in an emergency.
@@boyzinthewood1 i believe you responded to wrong comment.
"Liquid metal"? So your saying that the Falcon is powered by defunct T-1000 units? 😉
To quote the great Canadian poet Wade Wilson: “Well, that’s just lazy writing.”
9:16 - 9:20 "By all accounts and purposes, the most likely person to be the chosen one was Anakin."
Most likely? Dude, George Lucas, himself, confirmed that Anakin was the chosen one. From Episode I to Episode VI, Anakin/Darth Vader was the main character and the one who brought balance to the Force.
It's almost Lol between Disney and all these insane SW Comic Writer Nuts they have nearly Destroyed the original SW Story Completely
Regarding Rey and her Force abilities: It is well-established in SW that a Jedi feels the Force best when they are, to quote a certain diminutive green individual, "calm, at peace...passive." The shock of seeing the ship explode and the horrific thought that "OMG I JUST KILLED CHEWIE" would have interfered with Rey's fledgling ability to sense his presence. As to the lightsaber, Rey's entire life up to this point was spent on a planet where she had to scavenge absolutely everything she needed to even survive. It is made very, glaringly obvious that the lightsaber has been repaired, in the very footage used for this video. If you look at 0:40 where it broke, you can see that it split along the shiny silver band above the handgrip. Then at 1:07 we see that exact area of the split has been repaired: that area is now a different metal sleeve with a black band that has small screws and obvious welds above it.
Somehow... Luke's lightsaber returned.
That's the #1 question I'd like to know the answer to
@@linda10989 if you look at it, it's different after, it's very clearly visibly been welded back together with a black band around the cracked part.
@@elisenicole474 But how did Maz get his lightsaber is what I wanted to know
@@linda10989 A great story.
For another time...
@@solvseus the stuff of legends
To say this makes no sense about “one” thing in a thumbnail about this movie is a bit of an understatement.
Any of the plot holes related to inconsistencies between films is probably just explainable as the writers and directors probably not actually watching the other films.
The sequels were just two directors trying to erase each other's work
The killing of Palpatine was not what brought balance to the Force. Balance doesn't mean everything is just the good guys. Anakin brought balance by bringing the Jedi to their knees and leveling the field.
I always thought this since the Phantom Menace.
"The Chosen Ome will bring balance to the Force"
At the time there were 2 Sith in hiding and thousands upon thousands of Jedi spread across the galaxy enforcing law and order.
Balance in that context only meant one thing. That Anakin would destroy the Jedi. It always bugged me that Masters like Yoda and Windu could not see that obvious conclusion.
@@charliejjrome Yeah I completely agree, it really doesn't make sense that they wouldn't understand what balance means. For them it was like "There's nothing bad happening so all is balanced."
@@charliejjromeI agree. I think perhaps it may be explained that the Jedi council was arrogant enough to think that "balance" meant peace, and that only them could provide that. That maybe that bias clouded even Yoda and others. The Jedi Council being out of touch and having a sense of moral authority is a common theme in the prequel series and shows. The Jedi also saw the dark side as a perversion of the force, so they may have interpreted that "balance" implied the removal of that perversion.
Otherwise it would seem kind of obvious to me that at the time of the prequel series and the clone wars that the Jedi and light side greatly outweighed the Sith and dark side users. Anakin and Vader's actions greatly "balanced" the two by largely wiping out most of both, which was proportionally more Jedi than Sith.
I don't even consider the sequel trilogy as canon. Honestly anything Disney puts out nowadays I consider Star Wars spinoffs (and calling them spinoffs is generous)
Fan fiction written by people who never watched any of the movies or shows
There are exactly no plot hole in these movies because "The Force" and "Somehow".
With these two things, everything is possible!
4 How does Kathleen kennedy still have a job after torpedoing a billion dollar franchise
I cant believe some of you are defending the sequels! They are plain bad movies. Heck even the cast dislike their direction.
Genuinely can’t take people who enjoy and think the sequel trilogy is good seriously
"The Sith have been extinct for a millennia" yet the force is out of balance and there's a prophesy to bring it back? Now THAT'S a plot hole!
Anyway, Annie was chosen to bring balance to the force by destroying the Jedi, which he did in ROTS. It was a Sith prophesy that had been "misread" as Yoda put it,....and this is a hill I'm willing to die on, lol.
I agree with that theory. except I believe the prophecy was a warning that was misread.
I agree, but Disney doesn’t really give a shit what any one of us think, since they probably netted close to $1B in profits on these three films
Jesus Christ. You can't say "how did any of the Jedi voices work" and not mention the Clone Wars, and then bring up The Chosen One prophecy from the prequels where the prequels VERY CLEARLY state that it was misread. Qui Gon taught Yoda how to become one with the force in the Clone Wars series, and again taught Obi-Wan in his series. Yoda taught Luke, and could very easily have taught any of the other masters who appeared in voice form. Luke could have taught Asohka since they interacted. The only 2 that don't make sense are Anakin, which was a pothole from Return of the Jedi created by the prequels, and Kanan.
supposedly from what i've heard, obi-wan taught anakin how to do it in the seconds before his death. don't recall where that info originates from unfortunately.
Yoda only suggests the prophecy was misread nothing more. And as for Anakin becoming a force ghost so easily, he was literally created from the Force, so it's not a stretch that he was able to do it.
your probably the best star wars youtuber out there
The entire trilogy was a plot hole.
2:32 “fan-pleasing moment” is a questionable descriptor at best ngl
Plot hole: lightsabers used to chop arms, hands and heads off. These days they are like glowing baseball bats. What a joke!
Lightsabers are now paper cut
Kylo escaped using a TIE/LN (you can see it at 10:38 behind Ben Solo) which somehow survived the second DeathStar's explosion but the point is that TIE/LN don't have hyperdrives...
Kylo couldn't have gotten off of Kef Bir. An Imperial TIE fighter is shown behind him on Exegoul, but Imperial TIEs don't have hyperdrives.
It's supposed to be some special TIE in the expanded material so it is has a hyperdrive, but they clearly made that up later.
It never explained that TIE unable to hyperdrive to cover up another plot hole that space is a one way ticket. You never going to visit the same place twice since the past is gone.
Except for the tie fighters shown using hyperdrives to chase the falcon at the beginning of episode 9
@@elliotclough6702 those are first order ties. Ben arrives in an imp tie. There's 30 years of development between the two. The tie Ben arrived in should not have a hyperdrive.
I think a lot of the praise heaped on these films is greatly exajurated. I recall many of these moments (outside of that holding the blaster bolt in suspension) actually were eviscerated by hands including Palpatine's return.
Did anyone else notice the lack of new ships.
If you look at the difference between the prequels and the original trilogy you immediately see the vehicles variety.
When you compare the sequels to the OT you notice:
Fighters: same
Bombers: same
Heavy walker: same
Light walker: same
Interceptors: same
Star destroyers: I guess they get a pass
I was going to make a similar comment - really, no technical enhancements in over 30 years!! Also, after destroying the Empire, the rebels seem to still be rebels - makes a mockery of the ending of Return of the Jedi!
3:03 I’m very confused when you say “the rest of those Jedi”. The very first time we saw a force ghost was obi wan… who learned it from the second force ghost we saw, yoda. Yoda taught it to both of obi and qui gon. We also see anakin as a force ghost who presumably didn’t learn it from obi since yoda taught it to obi after anakins turn. But the idea that yoda might’ve taught it to a few more Jedi isn’t out of the question. Especially since they died almost 15 years after qui gon.
The biggest plot hole in the sequel trilogy is the fact that Rey is a Mary Sue
@@ToucanSonofSam333 not like 9 year old Anakin who wins a race in a sport impossible for his species, then singlehandedly destroys a battleship that an entire naboo fleet couldn't...
@@Bobdobbinks "entire naboo fleet" was made for parades. They fighters are expensive and theoretically powerful, but pilots had little real combat experience.
As for a race, it's not really impossible to win for humans, just difficult. And, he competed there for years. It's not like he won at first try without any training. Not to mention that he almost lost actually.
@@sirtaelellevalerie1056 no, it was a security force, read Plagueis or the queens shadow trilogy - confirmed in both canon and legends. They might have lacked experience but so do the rebels. Hell, the guy that blew up the death star has never been in a dogfight before.
"I'm the only human that can do it."
"You must have jedi reflexes if you race pods."
Childhood exaggeration aside.
Anakin was using the force untrained to see the near future, and do something that (by qui-gon's estimation) was on the level of a trained jedi.
"He can see things before they happen. That's why he appears to have such quick reflexes, it's a jedi trait."
As far as we know, he had only one prior experience in a pod - when he crashed watto's pod after sebulba sabotaged it.
Almost lost? He started in last place (I'm not counting Ben quadrinaros) and was able to repeatedly overtake sebulba. He only lost ground because of sebulba's dirty tricks and sabotage.
Rey also has confirmed prior experience for all her feats, yet people still call bull...
@@Bobdobbinks "They might have lacked experience but so do the rebels. Hell, the guy that blew up the death star has never been in a dogfight before." - a lot of rebel pilots was defectors from imperial fleet. And it wasn't first fight for most of them. (according to official RPG their leader was veteran of the clone war, he was memder of planetary defence fleet). As for Luke, he isn't actually did all that well in his first battle, just barely managed it in fact.
"As far as we know, he had only one prior experience in a pod" Watto said that Anakin are really good racer, which imply that he participated more than in that one race when he crashed.
This "plot hole" is explained in TFA if only you paid some attention instead of crying hard about a female protagonist.
She is strong with the force and is able to pick up a sense of abilities from other force users.
In the interrogation scene she learns how to read thoughts because Ren is trying to read hers. This is where you're supposed to realise her strength. She learns more about her abilities the more she is with Ren and Leia
Biggest plot hole to me is both Palpatine and Snoke both proclaimed, "It's as I have foreseen." then they die. How come they didn't foresee their traitorous allies?
i got 1. -----when did 3p0 end up in the hands of sith ? and why would they program him to not tell non-sith sith secrets?
I hate the sequel trilogy but I like your video. Thank you so much. I have an idea for your next video: Top 10 characters who are better than Rey.
Luke’s lightsaber isn’t *exactly* the same in Rise of Skywalker, it’s clearly been repaired with a new switch and black band around the middle.
Heck, it’s not even the same between A New Hope and Empire with the on-universe story being that Luke modified it between the movies, and Obi-Wan clearly worked on it between Revenge of the Sith & A New Hope too.
Was coming to say this
Yeah i stopped the video right there. Something that is clearly shown on screen if you pay a minimum of attention is a Pothole? Yeah not worth my time.
Another one is when Rose stops Finn from sacrificing himself in the last Jedi.
Finn is going full speed directly at the target in a straight line and she is facing the other way, and then must do a wide arc to just stop Finn, who was going at full speed in the same type of ship.
Physics, guys. Physics.
Plot holes in Star Wars Episodes 7-9
The entire trilogy.
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We just don't know how the Cosmic Force operates. I'd say it's safe to assume that once someone in the Living Force can figure out how to commune with the dead, that they could teach others who have already passed on to commune with the living.
Anyone who thinks the last three movies make any sense at all deserves to be deceived.
Lol Spot on
i haven't thought twice about the sequel trilogy since Rise of Skywalker closing credits.
One question I had at the end of Ep 7, why the hell is Rey and Leai hugging like old friends? they never met, they dont even really know each other exist up until that point.
because (short) Leia and (tall) Chewie looked awkward on camera.
I still genuinely think there was a story being developed where we would find out Rey was Luke's daughter or Kylo's twin or something like that but then someone at Disney saw the rumor mill and decided they just had to "surprise" us with what we got instead. It's like the sticker saying "Your Snoke theory sucks". Yeah it would have just been terrible if the big baddie was actually someone we've seen before like oh Starkiller? Building a Starkiller base? Just because one person might predict what you're going to do with a story doesn't mean you HAVE to change it but here we are. Just my theory though.
There is a deleted scene from the prequels in which Yoda tells Obi-Wan that Qui-Gon had told him how to become a Force Ghost
The entire Last Jedi is a plot hole
You forgot the other 2
Yoda learned how to become a Force Ghost in The Clone Wars. The Force also uses people, and possibly, those who have passed.
Man I don't mean to hate but uh... you can see weld repairs on Luke's lightsaber, and Rey has all the ancient Jedi texts. I don't think it would be that difficult to learn how to fix it.
Also bro, did yall not watch Revenge of the Sith? The part where Yoda tells Obi-Wan that Qui Gon found the path to immortality? Qui Gon taught Yoda, who taught Obi-Wan, who taught Luke, and hell they probably found every other Jedi in the afterlife and taught them too.
@@almostadonovan Or Bad Batch or Mandalorian where they go into cloning with blood of force sensitive beings. Or even the Clone Wars story arc where Anakin meets the Mortis Gods.
I’m writing a Star Wars story that’s based on my own life and the lives of my family members. When you’re telling a story you’re telling a story using tools. You’re not using tools to tell a story. My Star Wars story is also going to be inspired by the movies and tv shows that I grew up watching and it’s also going to be inspired by politics. The story talks about the light side and the dark side. One of the things that fans can expect is that the stakes are going to be extremely high because the Empire is going to do everything in their power to destroy the Rebel Alliance. The story talks about how evil and manipulative the Empire really is. In the story we get to see more of the hardcore Vader. When the Star Wars sequel trilogy it was just inspired by Star Wars. When Star Wars the original trilogy came out, it was inspired by the Vietnam War, World War II, samurai films, and spaghetti western films. The Star Wars sequel trilogy was just a cheap imitation of the original trilogy.
Honestly think the beginning of the movie should have been Rey retrieving a kyper crystal from a crave
Kyber crystals were not brought into movie canon until Rogue One. I suppose that with the opening The Force Awakens, she certainly could have found a kyber crystal, thought it was pretty, and kept it until she learned what it is. Yes, that could work.
@@seantlewis376 Technically, the Clone Wars brought the Kyber Crystals into Canon with the Youngling Arc
I liked the part where Gandalf turned to Rey and said "yer a Wizard, Rey".
3:19 OBI WAN series
Also the episode / episodes they did on that in The Clone Wars series
10) Rey is a top notch mechanic, and Leia had secret Jedi training and personal laser sword.
I'm pretty sure they could figure out how to fix a simple thing, like a lightsaber.
By blind hatred Rey can't sense just like Anakin couldn't feel if Padme alive.
ITS CALLED THAT DISNEY F'D IT UP AND THE ONLY ONES THAT MATTERED ARE THE ORIGINAL 3
it still boggles my mind that they didn't have a rough outline, not even a single paragraph, for the entire trilogy
The Jedi believed that bringing "balance to the Force" meant eliminating the Sith. But at the end of episode III, Anakin had brought balance, from a certain point of view: 2 Sith lords remained, as did 2 (canon) Jedi masters.
But there were other Jedi who survived Order 66.
@@SeanWheeler100 there were also a bunch of non-jedi, non-sith force users kicking about, the odd nightsister, and who knows what else, it's a big galaxy. My personal take on it is that Anakin did bring balance to the force - within himself. for that one moment, when Vader and Anakin warred over whether to let Sheev kill his son.
I don't know how fuel works in the Star Wars universe, but it's possible it's made from a substance that doesn't dry up or evaporate.
like say, Coaxium. The whole plot of Solo: a star wars story revolved around it. funny how they seem to have forgotten.
And that’s why, for me, those movies are not part of the canon.
Thank God someone knows how to spell canon in this context..
Yoda got the ability of force ghost in the clone wars series
Anakin blowing up the Death Star while Darth Vader fought the Borg, was honestly the best moment of episode 10.
Wrong bro, the real part is when that space worm in Empire Strikes Back spits out Naboo and revives the trade federation, and when Mon Cala goes into civil was with the Clones. Sad to see Huyang died to Tuskan Raiders on Endor:(
Episode 11: Come on, Return of the COUNTER-SITH???
@@SazTodd-t7z You’re right, I completely blanked out on Episode 11
Use of the Force requires discipline which Rey is still struggling with. Not a plot hole.
Of course there are other plotholes, such as when Luke asked Leia about her real mother, and they completely condradicted her statement, with the prequal, having Padme die, before Leia could get to know her.
Plus, how did they get Synergy from the Jem And The Holograms movie, and re-named it BB-8?
Take care, and all the best.
I understood that reference
Qui-Gon most definitely taught yoda how to transfer himself into the force after death. In return of the Jedi Yoda disappears after he dies just like Obi-Wan did in new hope. We get more context for the this in the final episode of clone wars S6. Also we are lead to assume that Qui-Gon also taught obi-wan when he was in exile on tatooine since at the end of revenge of the sith Yoda tells obi-wan he has been in contact with Qui-Gon
I wanna know how he thinks Palpatine has been alove for centuries 🤔🤔🤔
Bruh me too 🤣
Yeah that one stopped me cold.
Then he gives the "definition" of stupidity as repeating the same actions are expecting different results. That's the definition of insanity not stupidity
I am indeed impressed by you not outright screaming about this movie trilogy like most others. Impressive, most impressive.
A major plot hole is why did Leia and Luke hate Ben so much? They gave up so easily on him or straight didn't give a poo about him
Leia: bring our son home.
@@solvseus also Leia:
*Had has training as a Jedi yet decided to pack Ben off to Luke.
*Didn't ask Luke why Ben fell to the dark side.
*Didn't try to find or reach out to Ben after he turned, just accepted his fall and moved on.
*Decided to give her life to distract her son precisely while he was in a duel, giving his opponent the chance to stab him.
*Didn't communicate with her son when he needed her help to defeat Sidious. But that's alright, because she supports the Palpatine heiress as a force ghost.
Oh, are you talking about Kylo Ren? When I read the name Ben, I thought of Obi-Wan.
Can't Believe that which Nut added that Between Disney and all these SW Comic Writer Nuts they have nearly Destroyed Completely the original SW Story
So Glad I never Watched another SW movie after Disney's Mess of their first Disney's SW Movies Also if the SW Series are coming out with this Crap Glad I never watched any Disney and all these SW Comic writer Nuts Have turned SW into a Completely Different Story which no one would have watched if these Fools had got their hands on doing the first SW Movies SW would have Flopped some where in the Galaxy never to have been heard of Again
Calling out sequel trilogy plot holes is too easy! It's the definition of low-hanging fruit.
The Rey movies are nothing but a dream sequence (daydreaming) made up in the mind of Ray herself... If you think about it. How does anyone.
1) Meet their Heroes.
2) Join the fight against the Empire and the Emperor 3) and Discover they are special? The whole thing for Ray is unbelievable. I bet she is still eating her food, with that Rebel helmet, and thinking about What if?
One problem with the force ghost plot hole. Would know that Quiring on tart Obi-Wan this ability from the Kenobi series, Quagen tart Yoda from the canon, Star Wars, the clone wars in an animated TV show. This show takes please early enough that Yoda could’ve passed the knowledge on to the other characters mention.
In conclusion, the sequels are dogshit. But you already knew that.
Redo the sequels they must
Have the writers of this ever even seen the movies and series?
They've definitely seen them but it's doubtful they're actually fans. Content is content though.
Thats not to say there isn't evidence that at least some of the writers haven't even watched Star Wars. Perfect example is stating Palpatine had "lived for hundreds of years." Who wrote that line in the script? Did they just see an image of him and assume he's gotta be that old? Just completely made it up? Palpatine was in his 80s in The Rise of Skywalker.
Regarding the force ghost thing, that was covered in the Clone Wars - Qui Gon was contacted by some force-powerful group, I forget which, and taught certain lessons, which he didn't have time to fully figure out by his death, so he can communicate but not manifest. Yoda was later contacted by the same group, and was able to learn these lessons properly, allowing him to become a full ghost.
At the end of Revenge of the Sith, Yoda says to Obi-Wan that he'll teach him how to commune with Qui-Gon, and perhaps was also further tutored by Yoda, opening the way for him to become a force ghost, which we know he did. As far as I know, no other Jedi we're aware of should ever have become a force ghost.
Last night they were on TV (probably because they're cheap to run!) and it was just unwatchable. I settled for an episode of Friends while I ate. I'm like "I work hard. I deserve better!"
3:24 in the Star Wars the clone wars tv show, Jin taught Yoda how to become a force ghost, then he taught Obi Wan, Obi Wan then taught Anikin just after he died before he truly became one with the force ghost
4:38 Disney doesn't deserve to put the statue of Darth Plagueis the wise there
The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities that some consider unnatural.
I mean, right there it is... That's how Palpatine did and could come back.
I swear they say in the force awakens that poe got thrown from the crash site that's why he didn't die
1. If you actually look at the lightsaber you can see a band holding together. Rey repaired it using the texts she took from the tree in TLJ. If you think Rey couldn't do it because she never did before, then how did Luke build his green one in ROTJ?
2. Unkar Platt could have been keeping up with maintaince. The lights all still work in the Falcon and unless you have a number for how long it takes fictional space fuel to dry up, this isn't a plot hole. Hell Luke's XWING works after being submerged in a swamp for 3ish months.
3. In TCW Qui-gon communicates with Yoda after his death and tells him how to live eternally in the force. So if ANYONE was able to communicate with Rey, it would be him
4. Palpatine say "With no family here to save you" Also the lightning didn't kill him in ROTS so if anything he was banking on his power not killing him and it probably wouldn't have, but Rey was "all of the jedi" so they were clearly helping her
5. Palpatines body is inhabiting a clone. No clone no resurrection. Simple.
6. Plot devices. Luke didn't sense Chewies presence on Ach-to and did sense that Han had been moved to Boba Fetts ship and he didn't sense there was a Rancor right below him when taking to Jabba. So you most likely need to be looking for someone to find them, makes sense right?
7. Yep. They definitely had *and could have* a big role pre-sequel trilogy we'll just need to wait but like you said not a plot hole
8.Boba fett fell into the mouth of a Sarlacc and survived. Poe fell into sand he could have climbed radioed the new republic and gotten off Jakku.
9. "A prophecy misread, could have been" - Yoda
That prophecy has always been weird that not a sequel issue
10. He's the Supreme Leader of the First Order, he could easily call someone to come get him just like poe
None of these are plotholes, it's a nitpick