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- Tabula Rasa: Buffy The Vampire Slayer 6x08 Reaction
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We keep saying, "This isn't Willow." But this *is* the Willow who, as far back as the series premiere, was tempted by quick and easy fixes.
Spot on, I always thought Willow was the scoobie who looked for the easy fix she is meant to be the smart one of the gang.
@chrisallen19821982 "Smart" can mean a variety of things.
Yes this is actually very "Willow". Some people think they like other people or character, without actually appreciating them for who they really are, either because they can't or don't want to see some character traits they don't like in a character they like overall. A pretty typical blind spot, which shows a lot on reactors, especially with well-written characters.
There's actually a name for this biase but I don't remember it. Always interesting to witness though. Very annoying when it happens IRL with real people, but with fictionnal characters it's interesting. Anywho, just a quick free analysis.
Willow grows up a social also ran who latches onto those things that give her some power - first her smarts and scoobie status and now much more so the magic. It’s begun to warp her perceptions, especially within her relationship with Tara.
I’ve always liked that BTVS is a show that’s not afraid to have its main characters screw up and behave badly, sometimes very badly. But nothing any of the core characters does in the whole series is quite as evil as what Willow does to Tara in ep 606.
Yeah Willow always had the potential for this.
Tara really is the best human in the show. Always empathetic, always warm and kind except when she needs to not be. She has boundaries and will respond if they're breached even if it hurts her deeply. She's written and portrayed so beautifully.
Yes! The strength required to leave Willow when that means losing her entire social circle and support network to an extent - after she has spent years building that life together - it's incredible. Leaving her family and their mistreatment of her took so much, and it would be understandable if she ended up clinging to Willow and their life together - despite the abuse - but she LEAVES, and I'm so, so proud of her everytime I watch this ❤❤❤
@@Ebbagull It's so great that Tara has learned from her life experiences and refuses to tolerate abuse. Even if Willow went through with their agreement, Tara never indicated that should would for sure stay.
@@Ebbagull Yes, this! There's also a certain irony here in that it is precisely Tara's relationship with Willow that has helped her develop the self-confidence and self-belief necessary to enable her now to walk away from a relationship that has become abusive, as hard as that is for her. Going further back, I actually see a similar irony with Oz, in that Willow's relationship with him gave her the confidence which later allowed her, once he had departed the scene, to embark on that relationship with Tara in a way which I think S1 Willow would not have been able to.
It wasn't always that way. In prior seasons, she wouldn't have stood up for herself.
@MsAliciaRL While I agree with you, that is also the reason Willow didn't even try.
“Time is what turns kittens…into cats.” 😂
That's deep... deep as the ocean.
Worst part about Willow's timing with her spell? Buffy was about to crack. She was about to have an honest heartfelt discussion with everyone about how she feels. It would have been the first step to healing.
Instead, the spell hits and she gets to have a normal happy life for a bit, only for it to be broken and her to, essentially, get pulled out of heaven a *second time.* Making things worse.
If Willow had actually done what she said and not cast the spell, so much of what comes later would be different. And, potentially, less painful.
Two lines from the musical that sum it up Buffy and Spike right now.
"A whisper in a dead man's ear doesn't make it real." - Spike
"This isn't real...but I just want to feel " - Buffy
Exactly. She doesn’t have “feelings” for Spike, she’s physically attracted to him and desperate to think about literally anything other than her depression.
@@daphneglasurus7886she definitely has feelings for spike. that is obvious. just because she doesn’t want to be in a relationship with him or even love him at this point there are obviously feelings of some kind there that she even admits.
@@transmatized at this point of the show, no. Attraction.
I think she does feel more than just physical attraction for him at this point. They've had a growing friendship since the end of season 5, and especially since Buffy came back and can't talk to anyone else. That time she went out with Spike to play kitten poker was very close to a date.
@@kcmurdarasi I agree but imo that doesn’t amount to “feelings”. She trusts him to a point and leans on him for certain support she doesn’t want to go to the scoobies about. She’s physically attracted to him. But at this specific point in time, she doesn’t get like butterflies when she sees him, wouldn’t be jealous if he was with someone else, etc. To me, this is worth noting at this exact moment in time because 1. That does change 2. When she first throws herself at him, she is using him to forget about her pain
Buffy's reasons are summed up in the refrain immediately before their kiss last episode: "This isn't real, but I just want to feel". She's so depressed and numb to reality that she'll go for anything that breaks her out of that slump even momentarily. Self-destructive, but that's where she is.
Spike owing money to a loan shark is hilarious
*kittens
dont know if it was canon..but in the novels or comix the kittens and the whole doctor thing ( the reason a certain ex comes back to the show for a ep) is about spike wanting to raise money for buffy...
@@TheNakorius She did ask him if he knows anything about finance...
About Giles, its not because she turns to him for help, she over relies on him. We have several examples of this and how it bugs giles throughout the show starting at season 4 premiere when he refuses to help her. And this season we have even the moment buffy wants giles to speak to dawn for her. She is avoiiding growing up. That said, this plot fews super wrong after she admits she was in heaven. If it happened before it was fine, now its kinda mean. But at least this way we got him in the musical
I used to agree, but now I think it works even better after the admission last episode. He understands better that she's disconnected from her life. Making her do it on her own forces her to reengage, which she needs to do to get better.
Also, it is a nice parallel with Willow's problem - they both go for the easy fix (magic or Giles) instead of working out issues on their own, which stunts their growth as adults.
The irony of course is that it was Anthony Head’s desire to spend more time with his real life daughters that forced the writers to have Giles abandon Buffy. I’m not sure they managed it that great - it may have been good to have something actually pulling Giles toward England rather than simply leaving because he’s allegedly “standing in the way”.
@@xyexplain luck if it succeeded though since doing this in the real world to some one suffering from a clinical depression usually leads to suicide.
@@mjtpliI think it works rather well, fathers eventully have to let their daughter walk on their own two legs.
I feel so bad for buffy in this episode. She is so much lighter without her memories and having to get hit with all her grief and loss and heartache all at once has got to be absolutely awful. She just relived all her trauma in 2 seconds.
Exactly !
In real life, Anthony Head wanted to return to England to spend lost time with his teenage daughters (who are both actors now btw).
well, the problem here is that Buffy had been pushing responsibilities on Giles; they've shown it. You talk to dawn; you be strict with the dawn; I don't have money, thank you for offering your money I'll take your money. Buffy had been clinging to Giles avoiding dealing with things, all while engaging in self-destructive behaviors. Tough love is totally understandable, not necessarily the best course of action, but understandable.
Understandable before she revealed she was suicidally depressed and had severe PTSD following her resurrection. The fact that this doesn't give him pause or enter into his thinking at all leaves a very sour taste in my mouth. I think it's out of character for him.
@@Talisguy the problem this this is Buffbuff was not sharing her state of mind. The scoobs didn't know that the dancing was fatal. Only us, the oververs saw a buy burn down from dancing. This is all just ads to the season themes of "We'll go hand in hand/But we'll walk alone in fear" - people don't communicate and bottle things us, on top of the rest of things that might spoil the show.
@@artiepavlov6022They knew it was fatal, or at least suspected. Giles even told Xander and Anya about it.
@@TalisguyThe revelation last episode makes his actions this episode even more necessary. Because she NEEDS to engage with her life to heal, and she won't do that so long as Giles is there to cover for her.
I completely agree with Giles finally taking a stand and saying no to Buffy using him to do everything she didn't want to deal with. However I really don't think leaving is the answer in this situation.
Spike = "I'm a vampire with a soul!"
Buffy = "A vampire with a soul? (scoffs) How lame is that?"
Me = 😂😂😂😂
To quote Buffybot: "Angel is lame"
Buffy doesn't just turn to Giles for help and advice, she expects him to do the stuff she doesn't want to do. Dawn is Buffy's sister, not Giles' daughter; he shouldn't be the one disciplining her... and I mean that literally, dammit. Point is, he believes Buffy adulting up will help her get over things, especially now he knows the truth. As for the rest, he gave her enough money to deal with the stuff she has to deal with, so let her deal with it.
But yeah, Willow's an addicted dumbass. If they'd gotten together and offered Buffy the *option* of forgetting what it was like in heaven - not that she'd been there, just the experience of it - then things might have been better. Instead, Tara is right about absolutely everything, and it's good for her to get the hell out before it gets worse; and that applies to *any* kind of addict. Unfortunately, Willow isn't the one getting kicked out... guess that scooby circle isn't so inclusive after all.
willow was never going to be kicked out nor should she have been. her girlfriend moved into her friend’s house with her while she was dead. it makes sense that tara would choose to move out. also, the scoobies are still her friends even if she’s not with willow and we see that multiple times in this season.
The whole taking the piss out of Angel was so funny, and he didn't even need to be there.
Joan ... Joan of Arc ... (sacrifice) ... 'Walk into the fire'
Tabula Rasa was a great innovative episode with comedy overload. There was foreshadowing here from S4 finale Restless with Giles and Spike saying he was his son etc. We see Willow again going to the dark side with addiction to magic for her own selfish purposes, mirroring serious drug addiction. As they all have no memories this lends itself to great comedy. A brilliant use of Michelle Branch's gorgeous ballad Goodbye To You that was specially recorded version for this episode. Willow is her own worst enemy devoured by her love and lust for Tara who feels total betrayal after what Glory did to her mind in S5, it's almost a metaphor for coercive control, and of course we see 'Spuffy' is now very real. One very funny bit is where Buffy and Spike are in the graveyard, and Spike says' maybe I'm a vampire with a soul', and he 'helps the helpless' the tagline of course from the show Angel. Just a brilliant innovative episode.
Tabula Rasa means Clean Slate. It's a term used in psychology to describe the minds of a newborn, because you can fill it with anything while they grow up.
That’s what we call "table rase" in french, it means erase everything to restart, as a reboot.
Before Buffy kissed Spike in the musical she gave us a strong insight as to where her head is. She says "this isn't real, but I just want to feel". Buffy is very depressed, numb, lonely and detached from feeling connected with her friends right now. I think you're right that Spike is a safer place because he's not putting pressure on her to "be okay"... The problem is Spike may want her to not be okay because that's how she'll be his.
Probably my third favourite episode of the entire show, it's hard to imagine a better follow-up to Once More With Feeling. Giles is wrong in his solution to the problem, but so is Buffy in denying that there's a problem. She's stronger with him there and leaving will do nothing but weaken her. Her absolving herself of responsibilities by dumping them on him without asking and just taking it on faith that he'll always be there to catch things is unsustainably wrong of her (if understandable), and at some point she needs to be confronted about it and taught to stand on her own feet again. From Giles' point of view, and they don't do enough of a job showing this maybe, he's ALREADY tried that several times and she's just ignored him. She isn't ready to hear it yet, and Giles sees that as she'll never be ready and that he's only enabling her. It's not a good decision, but it's the decision someone at the end of their ability to provide support and watch someone still keep spiralling does unfortunately often.
WIllow and Tara, heartbreaking but Tara is written and played with such dignity in this episode, amazing.
Dakara Rupert leaving is actually very common parenting logic. Rupert was right. If he’s always there as an insurance policy Buffy won’t ever grow she ll always have a glass ceiling she won’t actually get stronger and there’s a lot of empirical evidence for this in everyday life socially not just human but animals as well. For me and a lot of fans you had to avoid conflating your emotion of losing a very great character on the show vs “oh that logic doesn’t make sense”.
I believe Giles was wrong too, but he was a little wigged when Buffty turned to him to discipline Dawn after the Halloween incident and her relying too much on him avoiding grown up responsibilities.
Buffy had been passively going through her life for at least a year at this point. She leaned on Giles to parent Dawn, to pay her bills and motivate her to keep fighting. Her sacrifice last season wasn’t a conscious, strategic decision but a sacrifice motivated by suicidal ideation. Giles felt that she would continue to walk zombie like through life as long as he provided her solutions. Not only is she an adult in the eyes of human law, she’s older probably than most slayers have ever survived. She’s not going to keep surviving if she goes on this way. For better or worse, a slayer is alone and must find the will to fight and survive within themselves. I disagreed with Giles’ decision in my first watch but I’m in my late 30’s now and I can understand better.
Hated it back when it 1st aired & still do. She was clearly avoiding responsibility with Dawn when he 1st got back to town, yes but so what? Dawn still had Willow & Tara who had been with her for 5months by then.
Aside from being brought back from Heaven, Buffy was brought back to literal Hell (we know this from Angel) to be told that she's broke (thanks to the moochers) & yeah the ppl who really didn't give a damn about her mental health, wanting her to be happy and normal within a few minutes. To being denied a loan because she lives on a Hellmouth & DOESN'T GET PAID LIKE GILES! HE OWED HER THAT $$ (she got him his job back!)
If he had taken the time to sit with her, he probably could have realized she was hiding something. He figured out she was hiding Angel being re-ensouled easily enough in S3. And she might have told him because he wasn't "one of her friends" he was her true father.
Instead he did what the others did, immediately ask her what she plans on doing with her life when she'd been back like a month maybe two at the most!
She was actually trying to take charge of the money thing by deciding which utility to pay first but they cut her off. That was her being a proactive adult just like we all do when struggling with money.
On top of that the 3douches were messing with her but the Scoobies blew her off.
She wanted something "to sing about" meaning a REASON TO LIVE because her life as a slayer no longer had meaning. Her sister & friends who she died for no longer gave her the same drive. Giles should have recognized this as a cry for help Emotionally & Psychologically but he just wanted her to pull herself up "by the bootstraps" because HE didn't want to be relied on.
Her mother is dead her real father a deadbeat & her little sister (who Giles tried to convince Buffy to kill) is a teenage hormone bomb. Yeah force the 20year-old who doesn't want to be here to do it all by herself. Great plan! Great parenting.
@@fanmagicks Giles is not her parent.
I've always seen Tara as the realist in her relationship with Willow.
Joan of... Arc. That's what they were alluding to.
Buffy didn't just rely on his advice, she was having him discipline her sister for her. As long as Giles was there, Buffy was not achieving her potential.
Nah Giles has a solid point about Buffy, she over-relies on him being there - it isn't just getting help to do stuff, she gets him to do things for her. Do I think he went about resolving it well? No, but he needed to do something.
From a more selfish perspective; he has every right to go back to England if he wants to, he already planned it so the only thing keeping him in Sunnydale is Buffy, man has other things in his life.
17:25 you give good analysis and valid reasons why this might happen between Spike and Buffy.
Some people in comments don't really understand girls. They just repeat what someone came up with long time ago. I can tell you what the author actually said and why a girl may want it. But first of all I want to say that I agree with you that she's lost and sacrificed so much. And her friends (!) brought her back from heaven to do it again, to fight again, to feel this pain again. Because they wanted her for themselves. Cool. 👍 And here is Spike. Who even said that he wouldn't do it. And who is there just to listen when she needs it. And she knows that he has feelings for her. She wasn't afraid or ashamed to talk about her real feelings with him. He accepted the real her and she let it all go with him. That's the KEY. That's how it actually works for girls and how it started. If you ask me, I would do the same. So it's absolutely understandable why smth happened. If we talk about real life situations. Not just some ideology of the series.
And I can tell you what the author said about it, that after getting closer to him she wanted to feel, to have this passion for herself, wanted to be touched this way, like you said. Smth just for herself. And most importantly she knew that he loved her in his own demon way. But she was in conflict because of who Spike is. Again, like you said. And she was afraid that she was letting it happen so she tried to deny everything, his feelings, her needs, everything and she tried to stop herself from using it. But if the plot actually understood why a girl might want such thing better, like you understand it, to work with the reason, instead of just trying to punish and shame her for that, everything would be different. Because when she starts punishing herself and him, that's when destruction happens. And that creates violence. And that's the author's desire behind it.
Buffy needed to stand on her own two feet. As soon as Dawn needed a talking to when she went on a date with a vampire she just put it on to Giles when Buffy is her legal guardian. I think Giles is right to go.
I don’t think what Giles did was selfish. I think he could have timed it better, but I 100% understand what he was trying to do. Buffy is over relying on him and avoiding grown up responsibilities. He can’t sit back and hold her hand anymore. She won’t be able to learn independence if he is there, and as he said he will step in because he can’t see her suffer so he removes himself. I think it is an extreme example of tough love.
Willow always felt inadequate. When she liked Xander, he was obsessed with Buffy. And Oz cheated on her with another werewolf. She sees herself as a boring loser and magic makes her feel special, useful and she gets a rush from it. Her lack of self-esteem made her a magic addict and is destroying all of her relationships.
While I agree that leaving a traumatised and depressed person to force them to "grow up" is objectively bad and a bad choice this is a case of real life being convenient as a driver for theme.
ASH wanted to spend more time with his family in England, so needed a reduced role. Giles leaving and pushing the idea that young people need to be given room to grow, learn and fail is quite important narratively, even if it's something we wouldn't condone irl.
Buffy had already outgrown her need for Giles, and now she simply clings for fear she will not cope.
I've seen this a lot irl. Kids of parents who constantly help are ALWAYS reliant on that help. It's not necessarily bad, but it's not good either. Independence might not be a virtue all on its own, but it absolutely breeds self confidence.
Oh, and the Michelle Branch cameo.
I fell IMMEDIATELY in love with her, and her voice. Still on my playlists to this day. Adore her.
giles was doing what buffy needed to grow and awaken and become an adult, as you shall see by the time you read this. but his timing was just a little bad. i say a little, because i think that he could have stayed till the truth effects had diminished a bit, but she had to start facing things and fight her depression. by staying, he would have enabled her to continue not looking deeply into her life and how to get her 'self' back.
one more thing: anthony head actually had to go back to england. they were developing a show called 'ripper' and he was going to be ripper, of course. unfortunately, it fell apart but wow it would have been cool.
Giles' point is that Buffy ISN'T being strong with him there. It's fine to turn to people when you beed help but she also has to be able to stand up on her own. When Dawn needed punishment something that was Buffy's responsibility she just handed it over to Giles.
Suddenly removing support pillars is a terrible way to help people with severe depression. I can somewhat understand it, but it's the wrong call.
@@Talisguyit's somewhat heart breaking to read all the comments from people thinking that this would be a great way for Buffy to recover. In the real world this would most likely end up in suicide or at least suicide attempts.
@@Henrik_Holst It's a good thing I didn't say that. What I did say is that Giles' point was that she won't choose to stand on her own with him there. Which she wouldn't. But regardless that has nothing to do with whether or not he's right or wrong.
@@Talisguy Well I'm neither a therapist nor a psychiatrist so I wouldn't be able to say what the "right" thing to do would be in this situation. I only have my own judgement and opinion of the matter and that says while I disagree with the timing I don't necessarily disagree with the argument as a whole.
@@MrSupertallblackmanwhile you didn't outright say it, your comment was phrased in a way that at least fooled me to think that it was your position as well.
"Goodbye to You"... Goodbye to Giles, Goodbye to Tara, and Buffy saying Goodbye to herself- the self she knew, anyway. Kissing Spike was a signal to herself that she is no longer who she thought she was. And now she doesn't even know who she is anymore. "I was always brave/And kind of righteous/Now I find I'm wavering...." (Buffy in OMWF).
Spike makes Buffy feel something other than anger and she needs that. He makes her forget she was in heaven, at least for a little while. I remember first watching it, thinking it was business as usual and then the camera pans around and they are kissing and my heart going nuts in disbelief. My Spuffy meter went off the charts. I could not even imagine they would be doing this again. But they were.
I love this episode, even though parts of it hurt, especially the breakup with Tara. Willow was horrible to Tara, doing what she did the first time and then to turn around and do it like this to everyone, even if the intention was only to do it to Tara and Buffy, was so much worse. Willow couldn't even go a few minutes without magic. Yes, she is addicted. Willow is not a good person right now. And Tara is. She is almost the moral compass.
I think the hardest part is for Dawn. Tara has been her mother figure for months while Buffy was gone and probably even since Buffy has been back since she's still so closed off. Tara was the one who has always been there for her since her very first episode when she took care of her at the Magic Box. She's most of what Dawn has had for emotional support since her mother died. No wonder she couldn't bear to say good-bye. And you could see how that hurt Tara, too. Just a tiny scene, but you could see so much in it.
And yes, baby Michelle Branch, launching her career into orbit here on Buffy. This show made her and this song was everywhere after this episode aired. There were a couple other groups that got famous after appearing on Buffy, but none like her. I think it was just because it was the perfect song for the breakup and this episode was watched over and over again by people until they just had to go buy the song before they wore out their VHS tapes.
The saddest happy episode or the happiest sad episode of the series. Take your pick they both work. But, as funny as the humor is, it's clouded in the isues of Willow/Tara and Giles/Buffy.
This is Willow without her memories. Same with every character. The point of the episode (as the shows title dictates - it means blank slate) is how would they act without any memories of anything.
I don't feel that anything about Buffy's trama is stereotypical, as I've seen some people believe about her depressed actions. Some people who are depressed just want to feel something besides nothing or something besides despair and anxiety, so in some cases kissing and sex works.
I understand Tara's breakup with Willow. She gave Willow a chance and Willow blew it. Tara doesn't even bring up to Willow the fact that Willow sleeping with her while having no memory of being upset with her is rape and any moment of hand holding/kisses/etc. is sexual assualt. Giles on the other hand, while I understand his motivations for leaving, considering Buffy's depression, leaving isn't going to help. In my opinion he should stay and tell Buffy, point blank, she's the one who needs to be responsibile for Dawn, instead of foisting it on him. And while it was nice of Giles to offer money, I think it only helped the problem along of Buffy feeling like she can run to him. The self-destructive behaviors will most likely get worse with Giles gone, also. They started as he was on the plane with her kissing Spike. Tough love is understandable, but not the best course of action under the circumstances of Buffy's depression. Tough love, in a Giles leaving town kind of way, would have worked better when she asked him to stay last season or when he was jobless the season before, but it seemed he needed said tough love in those seasons as much as Buffy didn't need him during that time. Now she does need him (because of her emotional state more than the Dawn and money issues Giles thinks it's all about), and he's leaving.
Willow's been addicted since her first spell. Using the metaphore, resurrecting Buffy shows her moving from alcoholism into more hardcore drugs. That's what's happening with her use of magic and has been slowly happenning since restoring Angel's soul. She ignored friendly advice (including Giles who's been down the dark magic path before), to messing up spells without long term thought when people called her out, attempted to take away Oz's ability to love, used magic for every little thing, resurrected Buffy, erased Tara's memory, and now this episode. When Tara walks out at the end, I cheer (despite how sad it's played because I feel it's a good thing) because I feel that Tara is leaving a toxic relationship.
And, in general, what is sex under the shadow of deceit?
Giles is right, she doesn’t turn to him for help and advice. She turns to him to do everything for her, because she doesn’t want to be an adult. I love Buffy, but it’s her duty to raise Dawn and to be the slayer ect. Giles is her watcher, not her father.
The writing was very sloppy here. They made Giles look kinda like a coward, or just somebody who's given up on Buffy and this was just all an excuse for Anthony to go back to Bath and help raise his girls. He was happier in Bath, while also taking acting gigs around the U.K, rather than the U.S projects away from his family. Tabula Rosa was supposed to be his last episode originally but, he came back to finish toe show, in order to do the Buffy crew a solid. Until he retired though, Tony was far more happy to do thing in the U.K. Love you, Tony!
As for Tara -- good for her! How many people have messed with her mind - her family, Jonathan, the members of that Wicca Club, Glory, WIllow - yeah, she's going to set boundaries!
You always explain the character of Buffy better than I've ever been able to understand her.
I just love the character so much 💜
The most "Buffy" cold open ever - the loan shark is actually a shark, and Spike owes him . . . kittens 🐈LOL
A realtor who feels the same way about Giles leaving as I do.
I meant reactor stupid auto correct😂
Willow lives on the Hellmouth, where magic is stronger. We've seen this time and again in epsiodes where even 'minor' spells are overpowered there. She's probably going to have a rough time.
😂 Love that jab at Angel lol during The Amnesia Ah The Renegade Rebel Spike! And that ending Buffy and Spike👏 and oh boy Willow as a little Green person says "Fear Leads to the Darkside" Dun Dun 🎵 (Darkside theme) Reaction reaction as always Dakara and review 🤘
Buffy named herself Joan, because she felt like Joan of Arc.
I love that the loan shark is actually a shark. I've always appreciated that touch lol.
Excellent reaction and you did a masterful job in focusing on the details of the characters and not being misdirected by the great comedy in this episode. One of the keys to why Buffy is kissing Spike can be heard in what Buffy sings at the end of Once More, With Feeling. Buffy looks at Spike and says” I know this isn’t real but I just want to feel” and kisses him. Buffy is depressed and was in pure happiness in heaven. There is no joy, no feelings, just emptiness… at least toxicity is a feeling. Buffy knows that Spike is so wrong but nothing is giving her any spark. I have a real life experience where a beautiful, talented, and successful woman I knew had a dorky, lazy stay at home 24 year older husband that seemed to have nothing going for him. One day I found out that they had met in AA and he helped to sober her up and stopped her from suicide. She told me once that he would remind her of her terrible times and he enabled her to put everything into her successful business career. I think I understand Buffy and at least a stupid decision gives her something and something can be better than empty nothing.
Finally you are on the mark with Willow. Willow has been great for Tara but Willow is missing how great Tara can be for her. It is sad but people can be too selfish to understand that they are not perfect. Willow has always bought into the idea she is the smartest, brightest, and knows what is best for everyone.
BTW- did you notice Spike and Giles were wearing the same outfits they had on in Xanders dream in Restless?
Tabula Rasa is actually my favourite season 6 episode, as much as I love Once More With Feeling. The comedic joy balanced with Willow leaning into her obsession with magic....sublime.
Also "Randy Giles" is my favourite buffyverse character.
Umad/Joan are so sweet too.
But Tara's arc and Amber's acting ❤❤❤❤
This is my very favorite episode of the series. It has it all. Its got comedy and heartbreak and The Michelle Branch !!!!!
I think you are quite right a out Spike. He was about to leave possibly for good and she was clearly the one who didn't want that to happen and so she didn't let him go.
So this proves Joan of Arc was a Slayer
I think I get both sides of the Giles leavening argument. On one hand I get what you and Buffy are saying about how they’s nothing wrong with turning to your friends when you need help but I also get that Giles is trying to help Buffy be more independent and make decisions for herself.
"Swanned off down her bleeding throat!" 🤣🤣🤣
20:30 Xanya, Warrior Princess.
_i touch the fire and it freezes me_ ( *i died* )
_i look into it and it's black_ ( *so many years ago* )
_this isn't real_ ( *you can make me feel* )
_but i just wanna feel_
*_where do we go from here?_*
Wanting Giles support is fine but she looks to him to step in with Dawn or any regular grown up issues. Issues that she should be looking to handle
Yeah that ending it truly gasp-worthy
Giles is the watcher. She relies on him way too much.
It is not his job to fight her battles.
He is there to guide her.
Teach her. Not fight for her.
Buffy is the slayer.
Great reaction to a fun but ultimately sad ep that ends up throwing the dynamics of the group for a spin due to a choice that Willow makes looking for a quick/easy solution (to her) to her problems just when it looked like there would be some breakthroughs with the group in getting things on the table finally. And then there's the ending scene of Joan/Randy (lol) whilst listening to the awesome but sad tune by Michelle Branch as the breakups occur, but the coupling of Buff/Spike... but to what end? I can't wait for you to see..... Great stuff as always, D! A couple of CTU's for you today.... Keep em coming!
is that the same outfit Spike was wearing on the swingset in the season 4 finale?
As a viewer, it's quite easy to judge Willow isn't it? But what if we could do what she could do? Would it be so easy to go back to who we were with no special abilities? I'm not saying she's right, I'm just saying, maybe we could empathize with her a little and (if she were a real person, of course) be a little more sympathetic and understanding.
Although now that I think about it if she were a real person I would probably want to avoid her as much as possible
Im so high and when i saw this pip up i was ecstaric. Warching you readt to this episode is so what i need right now lol.
Hate what they did to Giles' character here, but I think the actor wanted to take a break from the show to be with his family and they needed a reason to write him out unfortunately.
I listened to an interview he did at the time, he both missed his family as his wife and kids were in England going to school. He also said he missed the seasons.
The plot device destruction of Willow, and the fandom loves it because they get to finally pile on a woman. Except, oopsie, the show needs her later on. Meanwhile let’s all just drool over Spike because he’s a pm.
I love willow and spike and most of the fandom does. willow is not a bad person and people who get addiction understand her actions even if they’re mad at her sometimes. it’s really not that deep.
Great videos! Is the name Dakara based on the planet in Stargate?
Yep 👍
@@DakaraJayneThat's great! Then there's a very good ensemble show by the showrunners of Stargate that I think you might be interested in, Dark Matter. It's on CW Seed for free.
Welcome to the nancy tribe! 😀
This episode is like a sandwich - the middle is the delicious deli meat, cheese, toppings, and dressing of hilarity, stuck in the middle of a bun of depression and sadness.
It's a loan SHARK...GET IT?!
Giles has to go back to Britain, he has a football team to run!
OMG!!! FOLKLORE CARDIGAN!?!?!?!?!?!? 💛💛💛
And this episode made me like Anya and Giles more than her and Xander. They just look better together, more harmoniously, despite some shock that people may feel when they see them here. And she is like a thousand year old demon, I believe he knows way more about such, he can understand her better, they may talk about history, spells, where she was at some point in history, what she experienced, even what what kind of demons she met. This is a mutual partnership.
And when I look at her and Xander I just don't see any of this, there is nothing except her talking about money and so on because she is straightforward and him feeling emberrased by what she said. That's the idea of a good love story? I don't think so.
Anyone else see the bottom half of a face on the left third?
A lot of people disagree with Giles here, but he's actually completely spot on and right. The previous episode showed it very clearly. Buffy's not even bothering to raise Dawn, the sister she sacrificed her life for. She's just passing it off to Giles. She's not engaging with the world because she doesn't have to. She can just coast and let Giles do that stuff for her. Without engaging she can't reconnect, she can't get better.
Just remember that Buffy making out with Spike here is NOT a good thing. It's a coping mechanism.
How can her always falling back to Giles to take care of everything (like Dawn on Halloween) be wrong? Think of why you don't still have your parents taking care of you and fixing all your problems instead of having you stand on your own feet? Lately she hasn't just been turning to him for advice, but to take care of all the problems. "Didn't you take care of that? What would I do without you"
Joan of Arc!
how about doing a reaction to Teen Wolf 2011 series and 2023 movie
Does anyone else ship Giles/Anya?
Has this show ever had a 'special' episode that goes unacknowledged after the fact?
Yes, Giles is 1000% wrong to be leaving. Even if he thinks it's what's best for Buffy, he's leaving Dawn in the care of a suicidally depressed Buffy and Willow who is completely addicted to magic with Tara, the only responsible adult in the house, leaving.
I think the bigger problem is that Buffy was really *about* growing up. It was monsters as metaphors for school life. They honestly never really land on the best way to talk about adult life. They want Buffy to "grow up" but the whole conceit of the series was her having a destiny and greater purpose, protecting people against vampires et. al, while being a kid. A Buffy primarily focused on slaying has in fact grown up.
I'm not sure how old you are. But most parents do this at some point. He's essentially kicking Buffy out of the nest, metaphorically, so she will get in the habit of relying on herself rather than parental figures to solve her problems. It would make her a more independent and strong individual in the long run.
Which works great when the child is suffering from clinical depression...
Feel like you’re 100% wrong on the Giles thing. Zero of that is him being selfish. She needs to know that she can do everything she thinks she can’t.
Giles is telling Buffy to grow up, stop being a child, and that can never happen if Giles is there to do everything an adult Buffy should do. It is hard, but sometimes your offspring must handle things on their own or they will NEVER grow up
You're saying it like Buffy was a spoiled child but she literally died and got pulled out of heaven just a few weeks before. She was suicidal.
@eyou259not the point at all, she always turns to Giles to solve her problems and always will if he is always there to fix them
It's not that Giles doesn't want to help her. It's that she takes him for granted and doesn't stand up in a more adult role
What you say about Spike and Buffy that would happen if the show loved them together in s6 and wanted to create smth good but unfortunately here they did it only to create violence and to punish. Because they wanted people to have the same opinion as they had about it.
Correct. This is the writers forcing their opinions on the audience.
Bit of a misinterpretation I think on Buffy's feelings.
It's not that she doesn't want to feel for Spike, she doesn't feel for Spike. She's disgusted by him and everything he stands for. I mean in this very episode you see him 1) stalking Buffy and pressuring her to make her uncomfortable 2) dealing with violent gangsters 3) trading in the murder of small animals for currency 4) lying and stealing to get out of a debt he also lied to get into...just the tip of the iceberg and just from this one episode. He's tried to literally murder her and her family multiple times, he's a serial killer and has slaughtered countless men, women, and children and feels zero remorse of any kind for it...the list of red flags is insanely long and Buffy is a hero and paragon.
She is, in no way, feeling anything positive for Spike.
She just feels something positive and physical having sex when everything in her life is empty and Spike is there and willing to have sex with her without judging her or needing anything from her in any way. Even though she feels utterly disgusted and repulsed with herself afterwards, it's still feeling something.
"I touch the fire and it freezes me" isn't just a lyric, it's telling us how she's entirely numb to feeling anything now that she's back. The chance to feel anything at all is better than that for her. She walks around and feels like she's dying at all times, so even a few seconds of not feeling like that during sex is worth it. And she already couldn't feel worse being pulled out of heaven, so being disgusted with herself is easier to live with than just having to deal with the reality of her life on Earth directly.
omg I thought I'll never see a comment like this about Buffy and Spike. I feel that people are a bit blinded by James's and Sarah's charisma and chemistry to really see what's going on between them. And probably projecting their desire for those two to be in love/have feelings and not seeing that what is happening is obsession for Spike and desperation for Buffy
The whole "Loan Shark" thing was rather silly.
But as the song told us at the end of the last episode, :where do we go from here?"
We're getting heavily into the addiction arc of Willow's use of magic. This might become a theme. But Willow is still Willow, so hopefully she gets beyond this addiction. (But you'll have to watch and determine if she ever succeeds)
Randy Giles. What a wonderful name!
Joan is an interesting choice for Buffy to select as a name.
"I'm like a superhero or something" might be one of the best comical lines in the entire series. (And there have been a lot of them.)
The bunny thing is incredibly amusing. Poor Anyanka and her fear of Leporidae!)
Thanks for another wonderful reaction.
It’s called growing up and someone else, in the final analysis, can’t do it for you…Joan of Arc, man; tells you something about Buffy...
Let's be honest though, Anya and Giles do make a sexy couple.
I'm asexual so I've never really cared about the shipping crap on this show. But the Giles decision here hits hard. Yes, the actor requested to do only a certain amount of episodes this season so they needed a reason to write him out. I get that. But this reason is trash.
A parent is ALWAYS a parent.
buffy is "damaged" since her trauma and the female stereotype is that females who are damaged is that they not only make out, but yea, do things they normally would not, just to feel something other than despair or anxiety, buffy kissing spike is a perfect example
4:33 i find interesting that women reactors dont understand what Giles is trying to do. But man understand right away. We are used to face our problems alone. Women are used to be helped.
Only Women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally
Whilst I agree Buffy was over relying on Giles, it was also clear he longed for a life away and back home. But I find your comment depressing, yes maybe women ask for help more, but have you seen the suicide rates amongst men?
@@georginadevonshire9556 Yes 🥲and the point is the same.
@@WasoTremere ❤️ sorry if I read your comment wrong.
Absolutely wild comment, honestly
Buffy always looks to Giles to fix any and all problems the comes a point where a person must learn to solve a problem themselves
I agree to a point. Gile's timing is awful. Buffy did need him as she'd just been through a lot of trauma on top of losing her mum the year before. All children need to stand on their own two feet, and parents will generally step back. However, most parents would not do it when their child has almost died, expressed that their depressed to the point of nothing matters. It is selfish for Giles to leave at this point when she needs the help the most. He could have chosen to live a town away until she got back on her feet and then leave for the UK. He wasnt standing in her way, she was struggling to deal with her trauma and a parent walking away would not magically make someone be/feel better. I feel that the writers didnt do a good job with giving a reason for Anthony Head to take leave of the show.