I think this explains why pro-wrestling is so popular in Japan. Defined roles (heel and face), exagerated movements, and audience participation of cheering and jeering.
The closest analogue is pantomime in the UK, which has its own traditions, visual signifiers and archetypes. Is it any wonder pro-wrestling parallels both?
I do consider pro-wrestling the most modern iteration of dramatic performance for the masses, so It is not surprising there would be a continuation between old traditions and new dramatic expressions.
It said that Goro has over-the-top makeup indicating that he is quick-tempered. It also said that red indicates strength, anger, passion, and cruelty or something like that so maybe that's the reason why he said makeup.
@@MrOdsplut Yeah, but more in the mode of Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad. Kabuki is the non-nobles version of Noh, Noh was so insanely noble-class it often limited performances to a single time so that the emotions it the performance would maximally realistic. They would use the entire actor once and then throw it out, someone they had trained for probably over 10 years to do that because they only want the cold pressed extra-virgin emotions and after that one is just "copying" and "being an actor", probably the most exclusive and ephemeral form of art that's ever existed or could exist short of misusing lunar sample material. So the pathway from that to Kabuki in the hands of common people is absolutely crazy compared to King Gooddude III admitting he likes him some Game of Thrones and maybe you should be less afraid of him wink wink, etc. Very different set of motivations.
I'd like to point you at Henry Jenkins and his theory of media convergence - advent of new media doesn't wipe away its predecessor but rather - nobilitates it. Everybody used to own a horse and only the rich and eccentric could afford a car. Now everybody owns a car and only the rich and notorious can afford a horse.
Blind Fool you know what? I came here because of YOOOOOOOOOO! and was hoping to see such a comment like yours, was not disappointed. But also I feel educated about Kabuki now. So its a win-win!
Anyone who's wondering what that "yoo" sound is called, it's called the "kakégoé(掛け声)". It helps generate the atmosphere, and it also acts as a "vocal metronome" for the percussionists, as it helps them synchronize their beat with others. Other forms include "iya", "ho", "yoi" and so on. They are actually written on the score alongside the notation marks for the instruments.
What truly captures my fascination about Kabuki is that while Japan has been historically and culturally isolated, the tenants for theater that they built for themselves are simultaneously completely unique and startlingly similar in comparison to the development of “western” theater. Think about it. The execution of a “mie” to convey the characterization of a particular character to the audience in Kabuki is very similar to how western plays have certain characters perform soliloquies that have a character establish their inner thoughts and feelings to the audience. The fact that the Japanese arrived at these kinds of theater techniques practically all on their own is absolutely fascinating to me. It really goes to show that though we may be disconnected by location and culture, the methods through which human beings express themselves have a beautiful thread of universality to them.
@Demetrius Karavasilis There's still many pagan rituals around. In Germanic countries for instance, you'll still see maypoles in spring in some places. Halloween is a holiday stemming from paganism, if I'm not mistaking. I'm sure that there are many more common traditions and superstitions that can be easily traced back to Europe's pagan days. So in a way, Western societies are not that dissimilar to Japan, which also retains some remnants of its former culture.
@Demetrius Karavasilis Bro. When the Americans landed on Japan they sure castrated your culture by shoehorning in censorship laws and banning Samurai plays. To say it wasn't widely influenced by the West would be dishonest.
for anyone who doesn't know, the prototype of Jiraiya from Naruto is from the Kabuki play, where in the play, Tsunade is his wife, and Orochimaru is his rival. That's why in Naruto, Jiraiya usually does this kind of "unknown" body movement 3:03 when he shows up and introduces himself. (Unknown as unknown to western cultures and audience, a lot of people think it's just for fun but it's actually based on the movement of Kabuki)
That's actually not flute, but Shakuhachi sample from Emu Emulator II keyboard sampler. That's one of most iconic sounds of '80s pop and action movie scores.
@@Whoswhooooooo actually it's based on fist of the north star's original manga covers, which are inspired by Kabuki. Difference is that araki diversified the types of poses by taking inspiration from statues and fashion shows
Growing up I NEVER liked clowns, I'm not talking about "scary" movie clowns I actually like them, it's the regular goofy looking bastards that gives me the creeps man! Kabuki on the other hand looks badass
say 1: if u came 2 learn say 2: if u came 4 the YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... This is an edit in 2020, wtf I completely forgot I commented this and I didn't know I have nearly 2k likes until now, thank u 😂
@@dougformerlysekkohegane9303 I don’t understand kabuki very well all I know is someone starts saying something while someone is trying to play some other thing
Coincidentally, I recently read a manga where a robot girl wishes to have a certain body part. Her creator has never seen one, so he decides to look at some magazines, but they've all been censored. "Th-they defaced my one resource!"
Putting this on the bucket list for if I ever go to Japan. I feel like I could sit there and watch this, not understand a bit of what's going on and still enjoy it!
The reason they talk like this is because it's how Japanese television is staged. In Japan performances, like TV and Comedy that do not require audience input are seen as awkward to the Japanese public. For this reason there are very few one actor performances, so all comedy and informational shows are set up with two performers. This is why when you see unscripted television shows in Japan there is often a reaction box of some audience member so you don't feel that the performance is directed at you the viewer. it's also why a majority of standup is actually a conversation between two comedians.
@@masterxak I learned about this during a side job doing the English restream for a Japanese stream. After the event I asked why the two casters never looked at the camera, and what you wrote was essentially my answer.
I'm so glad everyone on earth has kept such wonderful culture. I hope we never lose these historical traditions that set us apart. I believe this is what makes us human, no matter what culture it stems from.
i like how the red and blue meanings are opposite to what western stories have, red being the evil, and blue being more justice sided. its interesting for the difference
I enjoy the parallels that can be seen between western theatre and Kabuki in terms of how they dealt with the lighting issues of candle light. very cool.
@Systemic Floyd-19 Warming pal, you literary said that "nothing of value was lost" when I commented on how japanese society just fetishises homosexuality or completely ignore (not even adressing any problem they face). You also are talking about whatever imagined "woke trend" you think I am engaging in, which I am not. And you haven't answered any of my questions, just deflecting the fuck out and trying to be vague as fuck to appear smart. So let's try again: Why do you think being gay is being dysfunctional? What does diversity have to do with being gay? Why do you bring diversity into the conversation even tho I did not even talk about it? And why do you have clearly anti LGBT+ paraphernalia in you channel banner if you don't hate the gays?
@Systemic Floyd-19 Warming "I was very direct. It's not deflection, I'm just smart. Sorry you don't like that. Everything I said is sufficient." You did not explain yourself up to this point. You are just using a manner of speech that invokes certain characteristics about yourself on this conversation, like being very smart, understanding of the world and above all this. But you are not, you are merely pretending to have answered my questions by giving the impression you have answered them with very simple statements. You did not. I want to clarify that the type of vague language you use is only understood by people of your leanings and not by common folk, so by explaining your points better you may communicate your thoughts to a hypothetical audience in a more effective manner. "Lastly, the rainblow cult is an anti-civilizational ideology not based on anything of real value, and many androphiles reject it as such. Any ideology which claims to "deconstruct hierarchies" and replace them with some marxist "alternative" requires nihilism, relativism, and denial of reason.." There is so much coded and vague language in this statement. *Rainbow cult:* every LGBT+ person who critiques the current status quo and demands for a more humane treatment of their community. This is not an anti-civilization movement, this is just people asking for rights to be recognized. Treating different groups of humans in a humane courteous manner is a sign of civilization, it is not a sign of savagery. Unless you are against humane treatment of your fellow humans, which would mean you merely hate homosexuals without any rationale behind that, like a barbarian. I also may add that the cradle of western civilization ,Rome and Greece, was very tolerant of male homosexuality. That is not to say that they had the same way of seeing homosexuals like we do today but they didn't merely throw them into a dungeon, they were civilized. This cult you say does not want to deconstruct this current society and build a "marxist alternative, that is your perception of them. *Androphiles:* this is a term used by behavioural scientists to describe sexual orientation, not a philosophical stance. If there is a philosophical school of thought like this it is not recognized by the academia as of yet. But somehow I feel that you are not using it correctly. Anyways the term is used to refer to people *sexually* attracted to masculinity. Anyhow I feel in the first point I manage to properly deconstruct your argument. The other words at the end are just buzzwords. There is nothing nihilistic about affirming your right to exist equally as any other human being. If anything, people of your leaning I've found, seem to be attracted to the aesthetics of nihilism. You described those of an anti-civilization movement as nihilistic and as deniers of reason but so far those descriptors apply to yourself. I will not mention relativism because to be honest I am tired already. TL;dr: thanks for the practise, you irrational barbarian!
The theater play feels almost like a shakespeare play. The poses, expression and facial masks in Kabuki are also like the Chinese traditional peiking opera or similar operas in china.
Yes! All cultures can find common ground in the ancient and the colourful. Big flamboyant, flashy makeup and costumes is a really common but amazing product of human entertainment.
@@TieDef That would explain the Japanese subtitles, though it still seems kind of strange that it switches to English captioning even though they don't stop speaking English
"Do you like Kabuki theater?" "No, I don't like Kabuki. I prefer Noh theater." "So you don't like any theater at all?" "No, I just love Noh theater more than Kabuki theater." "But you just said you didn't like Kabuki." "Exactly."
5:00 not in any case: during the 19/20th century the most known italian operas, which were played in theaters, were open to any person that could buy a ticket; it was people's entertainment and it was common to have people eating and drinking during spectacles, especially between acts
This is the guy in the japanese documentaries I loved watching when I was younger. Never thought I'd see his face. I always pictured him different than how he really appears.
Presenter: "Kabuki is a classical and much-loved form of drama featuring gorgeous costumes, outlandish makeup, and exaggerated movements." Me: ahhhhhh, so like Jojo?
I've always loved seeing Kabuki theater , but all of them was on movies and videos I'd love to see one live it would be so great I think even before I die.
"unique tradition of male actors playing female roles" was absolutely not unique, but rather ubiquitous at one point in history throughout Europe and Asia.
Yep, that theater clip came from "Begin Japanology". Real nice of these guys to not credit the show that clearly features Mr. Barakan's narrating things.
Peter Barakan doesn't do the narration for the vtr bits in Begin Japanology. And this is from another NHK show, so they freely borrow their own video footage all the time.
"The unique tradition of male actors playing female roles." If by unique you mean "as it was throughout much of the world for the last 3000 years", then sure.
It all came from chinese Beijing Operas, yet no one knows about them. My grandpa used to play the er hu for his local opera group. If anyone likes Kabuki, I do suggest checking out the Beijing or Peking opera. You'll find a lot of similarities
Narrator: We know from this over-the-top makeup that Goro is quick-tempered
Goro: [snake noises] [begins snarling] [screams]
ok Orochimaru, calm down
That means he likes you :D
KIRY- Wait, wrong Goro
I know this comment is half a year old but you made my day.
Quick, run before he starts spamming "Up Down"!
This narrator has a very clear and warm voice, he narrates a lot of different programs on NHK for english viewers, it's just nice to listen too
what is the name of the program?
Ur profile is coollll
@@SuperResnickBegin Japanology, normally he just narrates and this is the first time I've ever seen him on camera.
He sounds a bit like Jeremy Clarkson.
Came for the “yooooooooo” and left genuinely interested in these old plays
Same.
yeah now I need to go to Tokyo to see one. Time to save some pennies in a can
Same lol
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE YO
Somebody pls, link me to a video where I can see with my own eyes a kabuki yelling yooooooooooooooo I NEED TO SEE IT!
The shogunate hated too much fan service in his stage plays so he demanded them to focus on plot instead.
Power move
Now this is history I wish could repeat itself.
I can't shake the image of a Shogun enacting the 'silence wench' meme.
We need a new Shogunate Japan by the sound of this.
imagine how great films would be if someone demanded holywood stop making remakes, sequels, and comic book movies
I think this explains why pro-wrestling is so popular in Japan. Defined roles (heel and face), exagerated movements, and audience participation of cheering and jeering.
The closest analogue is pantomime in the UK, which has its own traditions, visual signifiers and archetypes. Is it any wonder pro-wrestling parallels both?
@@TruculentSheep and no coincide that wrestling is also hugely popular in the UK
They're also way into heroes which a lot of early NJPW wrestlers really embody
I do consider pro-wrestling the most modern iteration of dramatic performance for the masses, so It is not surprising there would be a continuation between old traditions and new dramatic expressions.
@@rz1974 I wouldn't say that, it has a strong fanbase but it's certainly not super popular.
"On the other hand, the makeup indicates Goro is quick-tempered"
Goro: *snarl, snort, screams*
Me: "Yea, the makeup..."
Daaaaamn a flies fan AND fan of kabuki!?
I think i love you
@@Blunts_and_cunts i wish i weren't right about now this season lmao
It said that Goro has over-the-top makeup indicating that he is quick-tempered. It also said that red indicates strength, anger, passion, and cruelty or something like that so maybe that's the reason why he said makeup.
Kabuki is like Shakespeare plays. Considered crass and common at the time, and has now become the high class art.
Shakespeare wasn't considered crass and common. He did performances for the King at court. His popularity went across all classes.
@@MrOdsplut it was far more common than it is now. Shakespearean English now a days is equal to latin back then
@@MrOdsplut Yeah, but more in the mode of Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad. Kabuki is the non-nobles version of Noh, Noh was so insanely noble-class it often limited performances to a single time so that the emotions it the performance would maximally realistic. They would use the entire actor once and then throw it out, someone they had trained for probably over 10 years to do that because they only want the cold pressed extra-virgin emotions and after that one is just "copying" and "being an actor", probably the most exclusive and ephemeral form of art that's ever existed or could exist short of misusing lunar sample material. So the pathway from that to Kabuki in the hands of common people is absolutely crazy compared to King Gooddude III admitting he likes him some Game of Thrones and maybe you should be less afraid of him wink wink, etc. Very different set of motivations.
More like pantomime tbh
I'd like to point you at Henry Jenkins and his theory of media convergence - advent of new media doesn't wipe away its predecessor but rather - nobilitates it. Everybody used to own a horse and only the rich and eccentric could afford a car. Now everybody owns a car and only the rich and notorious can afford a horse.
1:47 the cola bottle when u open it
I’m ded
👺🤣😂 lol
Lol
Korean, but still fits the situation:
th-cam.com/video/1PfC1TEqS2Y/w-d-xo.html
@@DMOTAMNB ok
yoooooooooooooooo
Blind Fool you know what? I came here because of YOOOOOOOOOO! and was hoping to see such a comment like yours, was not disappointed. But also I feel educated about Kabuki now. So its a win-win!
and there goes my idea
Anyone who's wondering what that "yoo" sound is called, it's called the "kakégoé(掛け声)". It helps generate the atmosphere, and it also acts as a "vocal metronome" for the percussionists, as it helps them synchronize their beat with others. Other forms include "iya", "ho", "yoi" and so on. They are actually written on the score alongside the notation marks for the instruments.
@@mcmh9523 thank you. I've been trying to find this out forever.
Blind Fool 👌
What truly captures my fascination about Kabuki is that while Japan has been historically and culturally isolated, the tenants for theater that they built for themselves are simultaneously completely unique and startlingly similar in comparison to the development of “western” theater. Think about it. The execution of a “mie” to convey the characterization of a particular character to the audience in Kabuki is very similar to how western plays have certain characters perform soliloquies that have a character establish their inner thoughts and feelings to the audience. The fact that the Japanese arrived at these kinds of theater techniques practically all on their own is absolutely fascinating to me. It really goes to show that though we may be disconnected by location and culture, the methods through which human beings express themselves have a beautiful thread of universality to them.
"tells us he is gentle and good-natured"
He looks like he could kill me in my sleep with zero remorse.....
Gentle: In your sleep.
Good-Natured: He could, not will.
That's literally what he did in the story, killed the man who killed his father in his sleep and massacred 10 other Samurai
1:37 me waiting for the YOOOOO
yes
yes
yes
Thanks
@@nelsonbritogonzalez6283 😔
> Flamboyant costumes
> Exaggerated movements
> Freeze frames
> Yelling
Kabuki is basically 16th century anime.
even how they draw the eyes huge
or its elton john
I'm sure it influenced anime to be honest
wonder why no one has made a kabuki anime yet i mean think about it
My thoughts, too. Or rather, anime is the modern day Kabuki
6:30 I have now lived long enough to hear Kabuki compared to rap music with sincerity.
Im sure many would disagree
I think they're comparing it in the sense of general cultural outlook of the art rather than it being similar to it.
"Let's base this art on a woman's style/movememts and ban women to perform on it"
Oh Japan.
Anon Not just Japan.
Ancient greece did the same thing
@Demetrius Karavasilis
There's still many pagan rituals around. In Germanic countries for instance, you'll still see maypoles in spring in some places. Halloween is a holiday stemming from paganism, if I'm not mistaking. I'm sure that there are many more common traditions and superstitions that can be easily traced back to Europe's pagan days. So in a way, Western societies are not that dissimilar to Japan, which also retains some remnants of its former culture.
@Demetrius Karavasilis Bro. When the Americans landed on Japan they sure castrated your culture by shoehorning in censorship laws and banning Samurai plays. To say it wasn't widely influenced by the West would be dishonest.
@@axellrosinia9392
SOMEHOW XD
1:48 when I pet my cat
XD
XD I didn't expect it to but so funny but it is
1:37
Why
@@dolsopolar the meme
@@YoshiZaurio2000 what meme
@@dolsopolar probably the one that goes
Yooooooooooo
wtf is this is the japanese Freeza lol
for anyone who doesn't know, the prototype of Jiraiya from Naruto is from the Kabuki play, where in the play, Tsunade is his wife, and Orochimaru is his rival. That's why in Naruto, Jiraiya usually does this kind of "unknown" body movement 3:03 when he shows up and introduces himself. (Unknown as unknown to western cultures and audience, a lot of people think it's just for fun but it's actually based on the movement of Kabuki)
wow I always thought red is evil and blue good
ditto. Learn something new everyday!
Maria Spin Ikr
Conditioning
o is cancel and x is accept.
@@Neyonius O is accept and X is cancel
The way the two hosts interact with each other is super nice and wholesome! They are nice to learn from! :D
2:02 I Need To Know That Flute Sound
Shakuhachi
That's actually not flute, but Shakuhachi sample from Emu Emulator II keyboard sampler. That's one of most iconic sounds of '80s pop and action movie scores.
pan flute
@NatNatcho a legendary mobile game
Akuma theme SF3 third strike
2:57 when someone offers me a pizza with pineapple
Based
Underrated comment.
1:47 my sleep paralysis demon at 3 am
Mine was the old hag (Lilith or a greek fury). Maybe your's a youkai.
Yo, 😂🤣😂🤣
LMFAO
Lmao😭💅🏻
thats me when the XANAX WEAR OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3:05
mie.exe has stopped responding
ON THE CONTRARY, IT HAS REACHED A FORM NOT VISIBLE BY MORTAL EYES
2:33 That's the origin of JoJo-poses... and many other spectacular poses in anime.
Its not the orogin of jojo poses
Jojo poses came from fashion magazines and italian statues
This Kabuki Posing is just a big JoJo reference.
@@Whoswhooooooo actually it's based on fist of the north star's original manga covers, which are inspired by Kabuki. Difference is that araki diversified the types of poses by taking inspiration from statues and fashion shows
@@Whoswhooooooo ikr? People just keep thinking everything is a JoJo reference its so annoying
For people who are terrified of clowns, I wonder what they think of this.
kabuki makeup is fine, theyre supposed to look intense and serious. clowns are terrifying bc theyre supposed to be funny but look creepy.
@@finn0729 Ironically I'm not scared of clowns but find this OTOH genuinely terrifying.
Kabuki is what the clowns are scared of.
Growing up I NEVER liked clowns, I'm not talking about "scary" movie clowns I actually like them, it's the regular goofy looking bastards that gives me the creeps man! Kabuki on the other hand looks badass
1:47 sounds like that one part in Giorno’s theme before the piano solo starts
Edit: oh fuck what have I done
Haha its a jojo reference xdddd
i'm crying
Oh no way dud😂
Someone find that clip and add the theme on it now!
i was actually about to say something jojo related lmao
the mie part is this dude's pose
I like how the hosts are basically teaching each other and it's like they are one upping the other with their knowledge.
1:01 I watch kabuki for the plot! I swear!
Have you read the manga
"And now at 1:00" is an image of a once innocent and valorous samurai, driven to madness by the moral corruption of dancing girls."
you do it for the women
Memorizing tonal vocables, body movements, facial expression..... kabuki is seriously hardcore art to me.....
I came for the YOOOOOoooooooo, but stayed for the history
>the unique tradition of male actors playing female roles
>unique
Tell that to the Elizabethans and Early Stuarts.
Discord traps
You haven't seen tiktok than. It's another *"unique"* form of kabuki
@@TruculentSheep The Greeks as well
@@machine-shopbilly6584 way to make it transphobic lol gg 👍
say 1: if u came 2 learn
say 2: if u came 4 the YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
This is an edit in 2020, wtf I completely forgot I commented this and I didn't know I have nearly 2k likes until now, thank u 😂
2* + 2 = 4 - 1 = 3 quick maths
2
3. 2+1
2
2
I'm completely obsessed with Kabuki. The drama, the costumes and makeup is so unique and beautiful!
I didn't expect to find the reason of Dante and Vergil colors
Oh shit
Damn son
Thought the same 😂😂
Now do you feel motivated
LMA0 holy shit your right
Japanese be like: tink tink tink tink tink tink tink tink tink DUN DUN DUN DUN YYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
*bo-bo-bonk*
*shamisen starts playing in the background as some guy starts singing lines*
@@spacedude5208 is the shamisen is playing then that means Tetsuo is about to go on some made shiy.
@@dougformerlysekkohegane9303 I don’t understand kabuki very well all I know is someone starts saying something while someone is trying to play some other thing
@@spacedude5208 I was mostly referring to the film Akira which has use of a Shamisen from time to time when Tetsuo is doing some less then good stuff.
0:59 MFW JAPAN CENSORS HENTAI
They kinda do, i mean they are censoring the crotches.
We all know that feel.
Coincidentally, I recently read a manga where a robot girl wishes to have a certain body part. Her creator has never seen one, so he decides to look at some magazines, but they've all been censored.
"Th-they defaced my one resource!"
@@AHHHHHHHHHHHHl sauce?
@@AHHHHHHHHHHHHl Title/Source?
Quiet kid:"disses the bully."
The whole class: 2:39
Also:
Teacher:"comes back and punishes the quiet kid"
The whole class: 2:43
Underrated comment
_too good, too good_
*E*
How did a simple comment of mine get 300+ likes?+🤣
@@kimjongowl1731 idk
Putting this on the bucket list for if I ever go to Japan. I feel like I could sit there and watch this, not understand a bit of what's going on and still enjoy it!
Ronald McDonald explaining to Japanese man what Japanese plays are.
@@blastpipezj6937 Donald McDonald of Clan McDonald of McDonald Loch!
The reason they talk like this is because it's how Japanese television is staged. In Japan performances, like TV and Comedy that do not require audience input are seen as awkward to the Japanese public. For this reason there are very few one actor performances, so all comedy and informational shows are set up with two performers. This is why when you see unscripted television shows in Japan there is often a reaction box of some audience member so you don't feel that the performance is directed at you the viewer. it's also why a majority of standup is actually a conversation between two comedians.
@@masterxak I learned about this during a side job doing the English restream for a Japanese stream. After the event I asked why the two casters never looked at the camera, and what you wrote was essentially my answer.
Sam Hyde explaining how he'd be the emperor's top guy, to a Japanese man (1945 colorized).
Thought it was the KFC man
i dont find the yoooo
Narancia me neither adolescent boy
The yooooooooo was the poses we made along the way
2:38 perhaps?
Hey Narancia, how's heaven?
Narancia: vola vola vola vola
✈️====
I'm so glad everyone on earth has kept such wonderful culture. I hope we never lose these historical traditions that set us apart. I believe this is what makes us human, no matter what culture it stems from.
Bro I watch kabuki for the “plot”
@Tattle Boad both equally valid reasons
@Tattle Boad what
@@DeandreSteven What did he say?
the plot: *unintelligible unless you learned the language*
The plot: yOoOOOoooOooOoOooou
i like how the red and blue meanings are opposite to what western stories have, red being the evil, and blue being more justice sided. its interesting for the difference
Well there is also the difference of the Japanese seeing white as the color for death, although we see it as a new beginning.
Actor: **poses**
Also Actor: *YOOOOOOOOOOOOO*
I enjoy the parallels that can be seen between western theatre and Kabuki in terms of how they dealt with the lighting issues of candle light. very cool.
Shogun: No thots!
Subjects: Aight, but we gonna have some men thotted out in our plays
Shogun: Cool
Wtf is going on in the replies
It shows that Japan isn't homophobic
@Systemic Floyd-19 Warmingwhy you hate the gays?
@Systemic Floyd-19 Warming why do you think being gay is being dysfunctional? What does diversity have to do with being gay?
@Systemic Floyd-19 Warming pal, you literary said that "nothing of value was lost" when I commented on how japanese society just fetishises homosexuality or completely ignore (not even adressing any problem they face). You also are talking about whatever imagined "woke trend" you think I am engaging in, which I am not. And you haven't answered any of my questions, just deflecting the fuck out and trying to be vague as fuck to appear smart. So let's try again:
Why do you think being gay is being dysfunctional?
What does diversity have to do with being gay?
Why do you bring diversity into the conversation even tho I did not even talk about it?
And why do you have clearly anti LGBT+ paraphernalia in you channel banner if you don't hate the gays?
@Systemic Floyd-19 Warming
"I was very direct. It's not deflection, I'm just smart. Sorry you don't like that. Everything I said is sufficient."
You did not explain yourself up to this point. You are just using a manner of speech that invokes certain characteristics about yourself on this conversation, like being very smart, understanding of the world and above all this. But you are not, you are merely pretending to have answered my questions by giving the impression you have answered them with very simple statements. You did not. I want to clarify that the type of vague language you use is only understood by people of your leanings and not by common folk, so by explaining your points better you may communicate your thoughts to a hypothetical audience in a more effective manner.
"Lastly, the rainblow cult is an anti-civilizational ideology not based on anything of real value, and many androphiles reject it as such. Any ideology which claims to "deconstruct hierarchies" and replace them with some marxist "alternative" requires nihilism, relativism, and denial of reason.."
There is so much coded and vague language in this statement.
*Rainbow cult:* every LGBT+ person who critiques the current status quo and demands for a more humane treatment of their community. This is not an anti-civilization movement, this is just people asking for rights to be recognized. Treating different groups of humans in a humane courteous manner is a sign of civilization, it is not a sign of savagery. Unless you are against humane treatment of your fellow humans, which would mean you merely hate homosexuals without any rationale behind that, like a barbarian. I also may add that the cradle of western civilization ,Rome and Greece, was very tolerant of male homosexuality. That is not to say that they had the same way of seeing homosexuals like we do today but they didn't merely throw them into a dungeon, they were civilized. This cult you say does not want to deconstruct this current society and build a "marxist alternative, that is your perception of them.
*Androphiles:* this is a term used by behavioural scientists to describe sexual orientation, not a philosophical stance. If there is a philosophical school of thought like this it is not recognized by the academia as of yet. But somehow I feel that you are not using it correctly. Anyways the term is used to refer to people *sexually* attracted to masculinity.
Anyhow I feel in the first point I manage to properly deconstruct your argument. The other words at the end are just buzzwords. There is nothing nihilistic about affirming your right to exist equally as any other human being. If anything, people of your leaning I've found, seem to be attracted to the aesthetics of nihilism. You described those of an anti-civilization movement as nihilistic and as deniers of reason but so far those descriptors apply to yourself. I will not mention relativism because to be honest I am tired already.
TL;dr: thanks for the practise, you irrational barbarian!
This was so nice to listen to. The way they both spoke was so calm and interesting
The theater play feels almost like a shakespeare play.
The poses, expression and facial masks in Kabuki are also like the Chinese traditional peiking opera or similar operas in china.
Yes! All cultures can find common ground in the ancient and the colourful. Big flamboyant, flashy makeup and costumes is a really common but amazing product of human entertainment.
When dude does a whole-ass split and wiggles his head so you pay attention to him.
"Yoo."
Wasn't this from an old show that was very popular in the UK at the time where it would teach people about Japan?
Kasumi97 japanophile or something like that, I never liked the name of it but it was interesting
Pretty sure this is from "Trad Japan", a show for learning English.
@@TieDef That would explain the Japanese subtitles, though it still seems kind of strange that it switches to English captioning even though they don't stop speaking English
"I doubt that in anywhere else in the real world women will go to study men on how to be feminine."
Tim Curry: Hold my stockings
the female guest judges on RuPaul's Drag Race asking queens for makeup tips: 👁️👄👁️
This kind've stuff is honestly great inspiration for D&D
"Do you like Kabuki theater?"
"No, I don't like Kabuki. I prefer Noh theater."
"So you don't like any theater at all?"
"No, I just love Noh theater more than Kabuki theater."
"But you just said you didn't like Kabuki."
"Exactly."
👊 fist bump for the MST3k reference. Stay safe and watch out for snakes. 🐍
Absolutely brilliant
Who's on 最初?
Instead of "yoooooooooo" I'm getting educated
Japan has such a rich culture, worthy of being appreciated
5:00 not in any case: during the 19/20th century the most known italian operas, which were played in theaters, were open to any person that could buy a ticket; it was people's entertainment and it was common to have people eating and drinking during spectacles, especially between acts
this kind of theatre is really cool it's like seeing an ukiyo-e painting in live action
I can't figure out which is more strange the Kabuki or the way the English dude dresses himself for an interview.
British Southern
かぶいていらっしゃるんでしょうね、 彼は。
He dresses like Brian Badonde
*"Does this outfit make me look more japa-"*
No. no it doesn't
Now I know why Jiraiya from Naruto had those crazy dramatic announcing entrances
The only eccentric here is the interviewer
The hell is he wearing
He is Kabuking.
I wish our world would be as peaceful as this reportage.
Everybody gangsta until they see Kabuki in the bathroom mirror at 3 AM.
This is the definition of a genial conversation
So this is basically the first live-action anime.
You're not wrong
GGF- -4
Yes that’s correct
A screwdriver interprets a nail as the first kind of screw.
I understood their English way more than any other natural English speaking person, no subtitles needed
2:35
The poses! Don’t tell me, is that where Jojo gets its poses?! It’s *mie* all along!
Joseph: “OH MY GOD!!!!”
stop
“No no no no no”
DyProxus *yus yus yus yus yus yus*
No, they're based on poses in fashion magazines.
Probably some degree of inspiration but Araki is inspired by like a extreme wide range of things so probably not.
This is the guy in the japanese documentaries I loved watching when I was younger. Never thought I'd see his face. I always pictured him different than how he really appears.
Where is the YO-O-O sound?
I'm guessing it's 2:38
xnphls
No, it's not.
@@papasauce234 I'm guessing it's not in the video at all, then?
Хаха какой смешной ник >:c
love that you can tell these men respect each other and just want to share knowledge to anyone interested. Simple. Fantastic.
Where's the yooooo at?
I came for the Animal Crossing Villager stayed for the history
It's so fascinating ❤️
The Japan is a bliss 💙
People may think it’s weird but we’d be doing dumbass shit if we didn’t have tv for 100 years too
6:28 wait till he hears about drag queens
@DiscoNight HAHAhaaaaaa, yeah that's for sure, but people do take them as role models nowadays
@Fatima Isra
Or traps. Gotta love them traps
@DiscoNight
“Gen Z fetish?” There’s a lot that worries me about the way you said that tbh.
Sad virgins.
@DiscoNight & @Ugly Barnacle atleast you two didn't swear at eachother
Hollywood and the whole world:
Blue means heaven and peace, so it is the color of Goodness and Heroism.
Japanese: We don't do that here
This is one of the most calming videos I ever watched
Kabuki Man is one of my favorite movies, also love how they were like all other cultures of the time of men as all of the actors.
The part about the movements in the mie being like how we use close-ups in TV to draw the audience’s attention is so interesting!
came to learn about kabuki, left very interested in this old form of art
Presenter: "Kabuki is a classical and much-loved form of drama featuring gorgeous costumes, outlandish makeup, and exaggerated movements."
Me: ahhhhhh, so like Jojo?
Holy shit you're right
Me pregunto por qué estos vídeos, tan interesantes y disfrutables, son tan cortos. Sin duda, este tema merece más tiempo.
Red: Strength and Justice
Blue: Means evil
Me: So that's why Valve always showed off the red team in TF2
Just two guys drinking beer talking about Kabuki
Came for the memes stayed for the history.
Anime makes a lot more sense when you think about it as an extension of this stuff
This stuff is really cool. I wanna wear those robes low-key 😭😭
I've always loved seeing Kabuki theater , but all of them was on movies and videos I'd love to see one live it would be so great I think even before I die.
1:05 "I watch Kabuki for the plot"
"unique tradition of male actors playing female roles" was absolutely not unique, but rather ubiquitous at one point in history throughout Europe and Asia.
Believe me, it's on the top of my list of things to do if I am able to work or visit Japan👍
I did not expect to learn genuinely interesting piece of history and culture when I searched "Japanese yooohuuu Sound effect origin"
Yep, that theater clip came from "Begin Japanology". Real nice of these guys to not credit the show that clearly features Mr. Barakan's narrating things.
Peter Barakan doesn't do the narration for the vtr bits in Begin Japanology. And this is from another NHK show, so they freely borrow their own video footage all the time.
Clown lol
@@TieDef Which show is this clip from?
@@Conturnal Trad Japan (トラッドジャパン)
They all belong to NHK, not specifically to Begin Japanology.
"The unique tradition of male actors playing female roles." If by unique you mean "as it was throughout much of the world for the last 3000 years", then sure.
I love how the two analysts are just conversing like two knowledgeable friends on something they both see the value of.
I love Kabuki! It’s mesmerising
Imagine how sexually repressed you would have to be to get morally corrupted by that.
Well we are talking about people in the 1600's afterall
You realise this is 500 fucking years ago, right?
@@いぶき-s9m Of course, but whenever it was has no relevance to the point I was making :)
That thumbnail is giving me Fallout vibes for some reason.
It all came from chinese Beijing Operas, yet no one knows about them. My grandpa used to play the er hu for his local opera group. If anyone likes Kabuki, I do suggest checking out the Beijing or Peking opera. You'll find a lot of similarities
Is that kin'emon: *_"KAAANJURO!!"_* (Kanjuro) in the thumbnail! 😆 20.7.2023