Ryan Leaf BLASTS Netflix For Selective Editing in Johnny Manziel Documentary | Hot Mic
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The one documentary that actually could be 6 episodes. I wanted to see more.
Exactly
6 parts? Dang I still can’t figure out how anyone has any interest in Manzel at all.
A 30 for 30 bout it
I thought the same thing Ryan did. There was so much more they could have done with this story. They breezed right over his life after Texas A&M. There should have been more interviews with people who played with him in Cleveland. There wasn’t even a mention of his failed comeback attempt in the CFL and AAF. It felt like it should have been much longer and in depth.
Yes two parts like the Manti Te'o documentary
The reason he went to the CFL is because he would have had to face a public investigation from the NFL for sexual assault charges on top of a suspension. Also that would contradict him saying he didn’t love or want to play football anymore.. I don’t believe he tried to commit suicide..
Yeah its was like oh btw, I felt like suicidal
Yeah it was very rushed its the only Netflix doc that I wanted a Part 2 for. Also the Last Dance never covered Michael Jordan's Wizards comeback.
@@jablank3180there were no sexual assault charges
Again Ryan Leaf being honest and forthcoming and saying what needs to be said and not saying chatter for publicity. Love Ryan Leaf. 😊
Yeah he’s a real one
Look another Ryan leaf bot lmfao 😂
Ryan is probably the perfect person to talk to Ryan about it
Ryan is totally correct- the director glossed over Johnny’s continued struggles including his failed marriage, disastrous comeback to the NFL and failed CFL attempt, the diagnosis with Bipolar disorder, struggles with alcoholism yet he is freaking drinking during the filming!!
Not everyone who is an alcoholic has to go completely stone cold sober. I know people who used to have issues blacking out at parties who reigned it in and are completely ok enjoying a beer or two at dinner occasionally but never blackout anymore.
Manziel is still a mess doing drugs. He was drinking on camera. Imagine what he does off
Ryan Leaf is a man that has turned it around. I respect him
This doc should have been a multi part series
Best response thus far bout The Johnny Manziel doc
I had a similar reaction after watching this episode. There was very little depth into JM's life and mind. It was all about the bright lights and the show that was Johnny Football. And there was no resolution at the end. Nothing about how he's doing now. So much so that I had to Google what he's up to. Turns out he's a pretty savvy business man who is worth about $7 mil right now with businesses and other various interests. But how he's doing as a human? Good question. No answers in this doc. Untold is generally really good...this one was lacking.
Googles not accurate with net worth
Spoiled kids don’t learn they just learn how to keep things under wraps and more private now since he’s under his parent’s supervision.
Seemed like Manziel, hasn’t gotten his drinking under control.
I felt the same way when I saw it. It made it look like Manziel hasn’t changed much or hasn’t fully dealt with his issues. I was shocked to see him drinking beer. I was under the impression that individuals in recovery cannot consume any of the substances they were previously addicted to. Just very bizarre. It seems he is not very far removed from the individual who was self destructing on a national stage.
he admitted as much in the doc, him and his family literally said he is pretty much staying at home still trying to get better mentally. guy is a mental mess still, addicts relapse, addicts make excuses for why one drug is okay as long as another isn't being used, etc. he is still an addict, and has issues he needs to deal with.
The fact he flopped is all his own fault nobody cares
@@thesmitty467 I agree its absolutely his fault and he really doesn’t deserve any sympathy in my opinion. He was his own worst enemy he was spoiled, lazy and arrogant. He didn’t want to put the time in to be successful and he deserving ended up being a colossal bust. But I do think he has gained a small amount of humility for once based off of how he has taken some responsibility and been somewhat forthcoming about some of the MANY mistakes he made.
Many people care.@@thesmitty467
Yeah I'm an addict and I basically lost my football scholarship because of partying and I ended up addicted to drugs until 32 which wad last year I got sober and clean and I look back and how much I wish I would have stayed with football and actually gave a shit. I regret it and I understand johny and I understand man. Manziel was a star in college I can't imagine the attention that he had.
Grew up there and I’ll never forget how salty Indianapolis fans were when the Colts drafted Peyton Manning over Ryan Leaf 😂
I was going to watch the documentary but now have no plans to, because Netflix did what they did best, when making documentaries: sensationalizing, instead of telling the whole story. Mad love to Ryan Leaf, for not beating around the bush and saying what needs to be said......
I know Ryan Leaf has had a lot of bad stuff happen in his life, but its nice to see him having his life put together. So many people make unbelievably poor decisions in their early adult lives.
He’s 47 now just recently got charged with domestic violence…. Until what age is an adult life still early?
What? A Netflix documentary is very selective in what it shows and tells people? no *Sarcasm*
They definitely need a Part 2, 3 & 4. They mentioned bipolar, addiction, suicidal tendencies then it was over. I was hooked and then it ended??? Huh???
It was the only untold Documentary I wanted to keep going
Every single addict uses the "mental health" excuse.
I think it's clear this entire new season of UNTOLD was all a grift. They choose to cover one of the most controversial and polarizing college football athletes of all time, and they only talk to people inside his circle. We get no outside perspective of what this guy was like. They choose to cover one of the most controversial college football teams of all time and they hardly cover any of the actual controversies. It felt like the "docs" were more just ways to prop up their subjects (Johnny and Urban) without actually dissecting them and their infamy. That's just poor filmmaking.
It seems like it should have been multiple parts. Maybe Johnny wasn't really cooperating a whole lot in terms of participating in the filming part of things or maybe he made them agree that they would not go into certain areas too deeply
What a cash grab documentary. Felt bad after viewing and feel even worse for Johnny. He doesn’t feel like doing anything, but is down for doing a documentary reliving his tragic football career? He needs a mentor ASAP and it sure as hell isn’t his father
Most interesting thing to me was seeing the dad put the blame on the coaches (really?) and then seeing Kingsbury say "He can do whatever he wants as long as he's available on Saturdays." What a leader of men. Bro could've really hurt people at the rate he was going
Feel bad for him? FOH,he's a spoiled rich kid..there's more important people who really struggle
feel bad for him? 😂
@@jakenail99 kingsbury was just telling the truth
Where’s the interview with the director?
I don’t think Kliff Kingabury is getting enough criticism. At least I haven’t seen any. Dude admitted to enabling Manziel and seemed oblivious to any responsibility he had in not giving any shit about his players personal lives
Both HC and KK deserve plenty of criticism for allowing one person to be more important than the program. That would have been fair for all aTm players that were giving their all and also would have led Manziel towards getting the mental health treatment he so desperately needed.
Agreed but didn't like how his dad laid ALL the blame at the coaches. He needs some accountability also@@ericandbeethoven
Selective? Manziel created pretty much all of his problems. He had the world at his feet and threw it away. Take ownership. Maybe Leaf is sticking up for Manziel because he did pretty much the same thing, had it all and then pissed it all away.
Exactly 💯
You don't know what's in his head.
@mr.brenman2132 but nobody cares.. we have never cared what pro athletes have going on in their personal lives we just expect them to perform
@@seymourbunyan9474 Of course we do. Smart people care. The mental aspect is the most important thing.
@@mr.brenman2132 " smart people" 😂😂 people will say anything to try and put themselves on a pedestal 😂😂 u feel better about yourself now?
are those people behind leaf on a green screen
Johnnys story is legit a 1of1. His superstar legit transcended sports. In a room full of stars he was thee star at the time. I cant remember a college athlete having that much fame. There was soooo much they didnt touch on its crazy. I wish they wouldve went into how he felt about Drake legit championing him and then when it went left its like they just stop being cool. Its weird that they didnt touch on that because Johnny was actuall around Drake a shit ton and that also played a huge part in his fame because Drake was at his very peak at that same time so it was almost like 2 worlds really colliding. And that was just 1 piece of his story there was so much more to get into. They really dropped the ball
Love Ryan
Ryan Leaf, thank you. You sound like you're in a much better place yourself nowadays.
hall of shame is coming out on august 15 so that might be more of johnny manziel after football
Of course the editors did that on purpose, no profesional editor or moviemaker for that matter does a scene or a cut just because, theres always an intention
Ryan knows
I was struck by how the documentary used very little commentary by Johnny manziel himself. I'm trying to listen to Ryan leaf talk about it but I can't stop watching the breakfast bar behind him. In a way it's a lot like the Netflix documentary because he's trying to deal with the serious subject while consumerism is going on right behind his back. I guess you have to work with what you have.
Johnny Manziel is not going to change his behavior or mature until he hits rock bottom.
That usually happens when the money runs out but because he's still famous and is a college legend he can always make a few million off of his name every year.
He may "get it" one day on his own like some sort of epiphany but I wouldn't hold my breath on that belief.
As a Browns fan, I had to relive the trauma but was not given any entertainment value.
One of the worst docs I have ever seen made zero sense other then the fact manziel really got screwed financially while the ncaa and texas a&m made bank. Imagine if johnny football was around during these NIL years wow
What book is Ryan talking about that he gave him? The Big Book?
AA (alcoholic anonymous) handbook is called "the Big Book".
@@billyt9987 thank you! That’s what I thought. Alcohol the one drug legal for is to consume is the absolute worst on our bodies. And it has destroyed more families than every other drug combined
Hey Ryan Leaf, did you know every documentary ever made is selective editing? It's literally what a documentary is. lol
Ugh. This is what happens when sports folks step out of their lane. You can have all the opinions you want of what you saw on the screen, but when you start to act like you know what went on behind the scenes with the director and Netflix, it gets embarrassing.
I agree no resolution to Johnny’s problems were reached. Johnny needs to reflect on where he will go next. It’s not satisfying that he will just start up a bar, continue to he a frat boy going into his 30’s and go into old age living that way. It’ll be interesting to see if he cleans up, tries again at football, or if he’ll finish his undergraduate degree at TAMU in recreation, parks and tourism sciences and find a real career or something meaningful in life. The documentary just cut off abruptly to update everyone on where he is now which really was the equivalent of telling a cool story that leads to nothing.
I wonder if it's possible that Manziel just decided to do a Netflix special (and claim to be suicidal...for the first time, coincidentally) for attention and money.
Nah. That doesn't sound like something Johnny Manziel would ever do.
I'm never been in a frat, but it looks kinda fun. What do you want him to do? Play shuffleboard?
I think it was all about Texas A&M making all of this money on Johnny and their coaches letting him go into this hole.
Watching him drinking is them showing that it's not on the school it's on him and ypu shouldn't feel bad for him.
As for Johnny he said on the Pat McAfee show that he is starting a club near Texas A&M...So more of the same.
It's not like he is trying to better himself and that is something he needs to do
Horrible doc. Absolutely horrible. Netflix took advantage of him like so many did, have done, and continue to do.
To me that documentary was a let down. So much more they could’ve dove into
I felt there should have been 2 more episodes…..he doesn’t come off well……he appears narcissistic , immature, selfish…..not good.
MAYBE...............he *IS* narcissistic, immature and selfish?
@@johnanthony9923 sure seems like it lol
I totally understand people giving those with severe mental issues/substance abuse problems some slack but Johnny Manziel is to his foundation a spoiled brat. Reminds me of every kid who thought they were immortal at a young age due to their athletic talent that will for sure fade quickly only to find themselves miserable in their 20s...the glory gone. He has never said/done anything of redeemable value in my opinion. His inputs into the world are all negative.
Well said, Ryan. Doc pretty shallow and just exploited JM's brilliant college career.
exploited..? dude was probably paid and told what was going to be aired that's a pretty strong word
Johnny opened up a nightclub in Texas. He’s doing ok
The Doc didn't cover Jonny Manziel
It cover Jonny Football the Persona
He probably just needed money or wanted to be back in the spotlight again after everybody forgot about him. This was not a sign that he has changed at all, he actually boasts about not changing for anybody which is sad. He said anybody in his position wouldve done the same thing which is WRONG. Hes a grown ass frat boy who lost relevance and he just wants that fame back because its addicting.
Johnny needs to be in a hospital period.! If he wanted help he would be trying to get help which what ive read hes not. You cant help someone that doesnt want it. He has to admit he has a problem first. Lets blame netflix come on man. Johnny hell f a football player really didnt give a shit once he made it to the pros. I hope he gets the help he needs but again he has to do it. Blame netflix come on man. Poor Johnny right? Ridiculous.
Ending of the doc was trash. Barely talked about his current life
Seems like this was all done for money and to get people talking about him again. Don't get why, though, isn't that what you would want to avoid the most? Reliving your failed NFL career and near death experience? That's why he came off as narcissistic and attention seeking here. He clearly still needs help all these years later and either doesn't care or doesn't know how to get it
The Doc was designed to get this exact same reaction & narrative.
You summarized exactly what they were shooting for and the narrative people wanted to see & reinforce.
I thought it was awful. I was looking forward to seeing it and it was not good
It looked like now he just hangs out funneling beers and smoking weed living off of whatever money he has left and his parents money I wouldn't say he looked like he was struggling if he can just do nothing work wise and just chill and party everyday I'm not gonna hate on him it's like he's a retired 29 year old
All negative. Zero positive.
What was the purpose of this film?
Zero development. No character arc. Just him making excuses and becoming less of a fuck up.
A cautionary tale I suppose? But overall it left me very unsatisfied… a tasteless doc imo
so your mad at netflix because they didnt give him an out..? lots of football players struggle with mental health and wash out the league nobody cares. Why is johnny different?
So does Jamarcus Russell have a disease?
Manziel and Leaf. Two peas in a pod. Please.
Leaf is blaming everyone except Johnny
Johnny wasn't in the media room putting together the documentary.
As if addiction and mental illness are a choice. Nobody knows what factors will result in a similar outcome for them until it happens. And then it’s too late. Blaming the addict is the easy way so if it makes you feel better…
@@codacreator6162 addiction is 100% a choice.
Wow your totally correct
It was a really bad documentary and preyed on people being attracted to the circus and the bs of Johnny Football. But the documentary was hollow, aimless and extremely lackluster. It's not the only doc out there like that, but talking specifically about it, the documentary was boring and poorly captured.
Do all those smoke alarm Americans not realize Ryan Leaf is on a show?
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
Ryan lead shouldn’t talk he’s never done anything
Even though he beat da Tide, Johnny still stinks!
That game was awesome. I will always love Johnny (and Cam) for taking down Bama,
As bad as things we're with JM. The "Skidmark on the underwear of life" the Browns have now. Makes Johnny seem like choir boy. Cleveland deserves "Happy Endings Watson".
I think the directors of this video did a terrible job letting Ryan rant in circles. Ryan came off looking like a bigger fool than Johnny. Geez, guys, don't let you big guest speaker completely hang himself like that. Someone wake up, grab a set of balls, and do your job!
Wait Johnny talking about the ncaa is comical. Ncaa yes is the devil. But your talking about a player that comes from a shit load of money. His father flying him around in a private jet and never had to worry about money. I like johnny but come on he needs help and he just dont want it right now. Blame netflix is just bullshit. Johnny is doing the same shit and now we want a pitty party for johnny football. Again I hope he gets help but he has to want it. Mental illness is real but Johnny needs to look in the mirror and say I need help.
Why does Ryan leafs opinion even matter though 😂😂😂
Well, he had similar issues and when he was drafted second behind Peyton Manning, many thought Leaf would end up being the better player.
Name does not check out.
A bad doc is a bad doc.
Yeah Ryan… sometimes tragedies happen and there is no happy ending. That’s life.