Gotta love Jay “ he says why you gonna torture people to sit through this” 😂😂😂😂😂 I hope the Olympia is going to change that the big fellas sat way too long in the back flattening out
It should be by popularity. I have a friend who does a lot of promotional work for bodybuilding. She said without a doubt the most popular divisions throughout the year are Men’s Physique, Classic Physique, Bikini, Wellness, and Open. Thursday should be for every other division. Friday morning can be men’s physique and wellness prejudging. Friday night can be the top 10 from wellness, top 10 from mens physique and mens open prejudging. Saturday morning is bikini and classic prejudging. Saturday night is bikini top 10 finals, classic top 10 finals, and mens open finals. Problem solved. All the videos and skits bs needs to go as well.
I love like Jay is honest and keeps it real. Most guys will not say what they really think. So most of the podcasts are just boring. Everybody is trying to be nice, nobody want's to say anything negative because they are friends etc.. Even Fouad and his boys will not tell Iain that he lost calves somehow or that his back issues were not from flatness etc. LOL...
I agree. I disagree on his view on posing stances however. I believe this wider stance is the evolution of posing, as there ia now an emphasis on overall fullness including front hamstrings so to speak.
This is an amazing sport! In regards to Samson, when arguably you didn't win, because your glutes weren't quite striated enough, goes to show the level of critique and discernment that these athletes are judged on. I suppose that's part of why we love it but it's remarkable nevertheless.
I really enjoyed this video. This was the most professional group of men in bodybuilding. Milo's and Jay were so informative, respectful in all their comments.
Jay & Milos my morning cardio option, thanks for continuing and sharing this year guys from NZ. Its been a awesome year and i still learn everytime i watch thanks for the ebook aswell jay
His structure is unbelievable. There’s a few really good guys now who are good enough to win one or two O’s but Derek has the structure and look to be a dynasty
@@HkFinn83 Derek can win in 2-3 years. Samson can too in 2-4 years. When 2 individuals are similar, they are going to give it to the bigger guy especially at the Mr O. As of now, he is the most genetically gifted guy structurally. However, he is barely 5’7-8” if he is that tall. Most people lie about their height. Nonetheless, he can only pack so much muscle until he damages his lines. But his structure is sooo superior that he only needs no more than 5-10 lbs and some refinement and he can be Mr O.
I state my opinion and unless I base my opinion on my beliefs - I don't even express them... So, if you hear me say it - for sure I thought about it thoroughly... Of course, I always like hearing others' opinion as well...and Jay is excellent in his observations and analysis. Manager Matt is quite good too.
Milos is devoted to his athletes and makes no excuses when things go wrong. Andrew should consider collaborating with him. The Milos team will repeat what Hany did this year.
According to milos everyone is 6’2 , krizo - 6’2 , samson - 6’2 .. Only andrew is 6’2 , krizo is 6’1 and samson is 6ft max he said it on his ig story..
I might be wrong... I actually thought 6'2" is 185 cm...but I just checked 185 cm is actually a little less than 6'1" Krizo told me that's his height... Anyway - what is a little exaggeration...it makes it more interesting. 😉
@@MilosSarcevOfficialTH-camPage you took the time to clear the misunderstanding, you didn't need to though. A little bit of centimetres don't make a whole lot of difference when we're talking about height, exaggeration is only bad when we're talking length.
So we can not predict the results of Mr.O two weeks out, let's predict next years results :D I really enjoyed the pod, great questions and awesome analysis!
I think Father Time and all the atrophied body parts caught up wit ramy. His body took the 2020 peak perfectly but he’s got so much wear and tear on his body I just think it can’t keep up anymore
No, I don't....Obviously - I would NEVER call myself that... The Editorial of FLEX named me "The Mind"...God only knows WHY. They called Shawn Ray "The Mouth"...😄
With all of the divisions now, the women should do their prejudging Thursday morning and their finals Thursday night. Mens Open, Classic , 212, Physique prejudging Friday morning (physiques look best in the morning) and then the Finals Saturday night.
Milos, you need to have your own podcast. you are fan favorite everywhere you go. can also tell you have alot more you want to say about subject discussed. Derek has improve his posing from 'riding the horse' thanks to you pointing it out.
For the Pay Per View, we watched from OH. We were in bed by 10:30 pm. We tried to catch the prejudging the next day and couldn't because it wasn't posted the next morning. However, we did catch the finals on Sunday... Sorry, but too late for our bodybuilding enthusiast's household. Probably our last Pay Per View experience in general. We'll catch the highlights from you and the other podcasters.
Exactly. I don’t purchase the show because it’s so damn long and you have no idea when they’ll actually be on stage. Just not gonna sit around for it. Mix in when it’s already happening so late might as well just look it up the next day.
Thanks Jay for saying what we all were thinking. I live on the east coast and fell asleep. I think it also affected the quality of the athletes on stage. Such a shame because it had a chance to be one of the best Olympia’s.
Samson easily won both side shots (Side Chest 41:37, Side Tricep 46:48) it was not even close. His Rear Lat Spread, Front Lat Spread, and Abs and thighs were also at least third. He should have placed third you do not even have to add the scores up. How many of Samson shots were 5th or 6th ? Maybe his Rear Double at a push. So how can he finish 6th. Impossible. Fellas don't get too excited about Derek as both his side shots are weak. Shots : Front Double Bicep - Hadi, Derek, Nick, Samson, Rami, Brandon. Front Lat Spread - Rami, Hadi, Derek, Samspon, Brandon, Nick. Side Chest - Samson, Nick, Rami, Hadi, Brandon, Derek. Rear Double Bicep - Derek, Hadi , Nick, Samson, Brandon, Rami. Rear Lat Spread - Hadi, Derek, Samson, Rami, Nick, Brandon. Side Tricep - Samson, Nick, Rami, Hadi, Brandon, Derek. Abs & Thighs - Hadi, Derek, Samson, Nick, Rami, Brandon. Most Muscular - Hadi, Brandon, Nick, Samson, Derek, Rami. So the "Cumulative Scores" from 1 to 6 gives you : (1) Hadi - 16 (2) Samson - 24 (3) Derek - 27 (4) Nick - 28 (5) Rami - 33 (6) Brandon - 40 So take all the bullshit out of it Samson should have been 2nd or 3rd.
To have show, you need the other divisions before Men's Open. If you go to a UFC event or Boxing, if they have the Main Event before the undercards. When the show first starts the place is half full. Also, the 45 minute delay in starting the show didn't help. Eliminating the point system for qualification will help reduce the size of every division which will help improve timing.
8:40 this is where i get thrown off with my limited knowledge. Guy is about to say he's seen better abs and better right quad on Ramy. I'm looking at same mf footage in 4k. Wtf is he talking about. There's great separation in the abs. I know Ronnie's legs look a little different than like 2013 but cmon. His quad?!? This is quite possibly the 3rd quadzilla of all time - behind Mr. Platz & Jay. I dont get it. Yes, Ramy's back was not there. And triceps were flat. And then some weird bumps on glutes. Other than that -- he looked great. Good enough for top 5. I think. Idk now. Lol
Hunter was bigger this year but stomach was bigger and he didn't look as lean. Not just watery, looked higher bodyfat than last year. He did post a pic of him a couple days out or something where he looked better, so he probably didn't peak properly either. In general, he makes improvements each year though, so I think we can expect better next year
If you want to know how Behrooz would’ve done, Brett smoked 4 or so 3rd callout guys in Spain 2 weeks out, mopped the floor with them and Behrooz matched Brett’s shape with better muscle bellies and conditioning. If he was equal to his form in Romania I’d say 2nd callout is probably accurate!
Bad luck for Ramy and Samson stood next to him and exposed Ramy’s numerous terrible blemishes with comparable size, incredible shape, and no blemishes of his own…
Andrew Jacked is the most impressive bodybuilder on the planet and probably since Ronnie putting conditioning aside. No one comes close with the shape and size combination
Not a big fan of Walker but that side chest looks amazing! Do you guys think his front lat spread looks less good because of his massive arms ? And will he ever win the O with those vains on the calfs (not hating on him).
I enjoyed my Olympia experience for my first time this year, but pre-judging in Friday night finals was way too long. The awards for The divisions for Friday night were delayed because the people are not in time and pre-judging for open was 11 PM. I didn’t leave planet Hollywood until 1 AM in the morning
many people are now using this word "flat" to all lacking things in physique.. lets be clear.. Ramy wasnt flat - he was lacking in conditioning and was missing body parts, had holes in his thighs and on top of that his posing was tragic. What went wrong? He wasnt prepared properly. Just because he was big and has size to overwhelm entire line up doesnt mean he will win. Its about shape and how you present it. Just compare 2014 Ramy and his current look. Its a metamorphose to wrong way.
I think everyone was memorize by Derek V tape. I had him 3rd. Jay caught it too. I was not in love with Lunsford lat spread it was impressive but I still think Nick was ahead.
I may agree Samson has the better physique, but Nick didn't beat him on conditioning only. Nick clobbers Samson in certain poses, regardless of conditioning.
Milos for permanent co-host! These are the best episodes.
Milos is GREAT 👏🏼👏🏼💯💯😊
Yeah, instead of Jay 🤣 Just kidding ❤️
Milos for president!!
😂👌
The secret service will need to carry a suitcase of diuretics
He can't. He was born in a different country.
@@rjScubaSki 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@rjScubaSki that and a suit case for insulin 🤪😂 love u milos!
Best commentary yet , Jay and Milos know their stuff, thanks you guys for this !!! Milos keep spitting your fire love it !!!! SR.
One thing is certain, milos is always great to watch. Love this podcast.
Gotta love Jay “ he says why you gonna torture people to sit through this” 😂😂😂😂😂 I hope the Olympia is going to change that the big fellas sat way too long in the back flattening out
.I ylly88 I
Thank you Jay for speaking the truth. Sitting there for 6 hours on Saturday night was painful
It should be by popularity. I have a friend who does a lot of promotional work for bodybuilding. She said without a doubt the most popular divisions throughout the year are Men’s Physique, Classic Physique, Bikini, Wellness, and Open. Thursday should be for every other division. Friday morning can be men’s physique and wellness prejudging. Friday night can be the top 10 from wellness, top 10 from mens physique and mens open prejudging. Saturday morning is bikini and classic prejudging. Saturday night is bikini top 10 finals, classic top 10 finals, and mens open finals. Problem solved. All the videos and skits bs needs to go as well.
@@Mar1293 men's physique? I don't believe that!
@@calcifiedbonecollector3222 yeah they have the most NPC competitors
@@calcifiedbonecollector3222 you don’t have to believe it. It’s true lol
@@calcifiedbonecollector3222 most popular for people to compete in, not most popular to watch
I love like Jay is honest and keeps it real. Most guys will not say what they really think. So most of the podcasts are just boring. Everybody is trying to be nice, nobody want's to say anything negative because they are friends etc.. Even Fouad and his boys will not tell Iain that he lost calves somehow or that his back issues were not from flatness etc. LOL...
When a 4 time Mr. Olympia speaks, those I n charge should listen 👂
Let’s be honest and real…
Yep lol Jay's untouchable he can say whatever he wants. He's the man
I agree. I disagree on his view on posing stances however. I believe this wider stance is the evolution of posing, as there ia now an emphasis on overall fullness including front hamstrings so to speak.
This is an amazing sport! In regards to Samson, when arguably you didn't win, because your glutes weren't quite striated enough, goes to show the level of critique and discernment that these athletes are judged on. I suppose that's part of why we love it but it's remarkable nevertheless.
Been waiting for this one! I wish Chris coulda been on for this
Thank you guys for patiently taking a close look... Nice to see milos speaking openly... he was clearly trying not to upset dj on other podcast.
The most comprehensive and compelling analysis of Mr Olympia 2023! Great job guys!
Let’s gooooo Milosssssss 😂😂 this guy cracks me up every time
I really enjoyed this video. This was the most professional group of men in bodybuilding. Milo's and Jay were so informative, respectful in all their comments.
Jay & Milos my morning cardio option, thanks for continuing and sharing this year guys from NZ. Its been a awesome year and i still learn everytime i watch thanks for the ebook aswell jay
Nothing beats Jays intro for Dave “full time bodybuilder in the house” 😂😂
I was there. When Derek hit his front semi-relax, people started to get excited and were awed!!
When he hit that back double, people went wild!
His structure is unbelievable. There’s a few really good guys now who are good enough to win one or two O’s but Derek has the structure and look to be a dynasty
@@HkFinn83 Derek can win in 2-3 years. Samson can too in 2-4 years. When 2 individuals are similar, they are going to give it to the bigger guy especially at the Mr O. As of now, he is the most genetically gifted guy structurally. However, he is barely 5’7-8” if he is that tall. Most people lie about their height. Nonetheless, he can only pack so much muscle until he damages his lines. But his structure is sooo superior that he only needs no more than 5-10 lbs and some refinement and he can be Mr O.
All of u nailed it with the timing. Honestly my hats off to the coaches and athletes for doing that well considering the gongshow of scheduling
I'd LOVE to see Milos run Jay through some Giant Sets! Make that happen!!!
I love Milo’s commentary he states his point and he doesn’t back down from anyone no matter who you are. 👏👏👏
I state my opinion and unless I base my opinion on my beliefs - I don't even express them...
So, if you hear me say it - for sure I thought about it thoroughly...
Of course, I always like hearing others' opinion as well...and Jay is excellent in his observations and analysis.
Manager Matt is quite good too.
I've been dreaming about this episode!!! Thank you so much guys! Stay safe strong and God Bless You all! 💪🙏
Jay and Milo are the best. Awesome real bodybuilding talk. Happy we heard very little from Matt 👀
I told everyone Derek was gonna shock people and he still shocked ME! Unbelievable 😅😅
I lv this podcast, everyone is speaking their mind out without arguing.
Get Milos to do your pod exclusively ! This is the only one( outside Rxmuscle) that I always watch till the end... Great Trio !
Their analysis and opinions are greatly appreciated.
Watching this with great interest..
great conversation n analysis, good to hear from both milos n jay together
I really think the very late time at night for finally getting on stage affected everyone!!!!
Very much so...
Agreed 👍
These 3 guys make a great BODYBUILDING podcast
Finally!! Been waiting for your podcast, to hear your thoughts about this years Olympia
Samson shape etc is unreal if he comes in peeled it’s lights out
Milos just asks the right questions in the right way - direct!
Great to see to the sportsmanship between this guys. Nick and Samson fist bumping. Ramy first bumping nick.
Great podcast! Jay's is 100% right, us on the east coast had to wait till 2:00am . No thanks.
Was eagerly waiting for this Analysis
Love this so looking forward to this. Great milos amazing. The guys are so honest that’s what we need.
Samson said he's 5'11" and on a good day 6' (not 6'2"). Anyway, he looked amazing. Future Mr O for sure
Yes...I was wrong.
For whatever reason I thought he was 6'2"
LOVE seeing Full Time!!! Would love to see more Dave B!!! 💪🏻👊🏻💪🏻
Is this legit?
Best Olympia recap podcast out 🙏🏽🫶🏽
Milos is devoted to his athletes and makes no excuses when things go wrong. Andrew should consider collaborating with him. The Milos team will repeat what Hany did this year.
According to milos everyone is 6’2 , krizo - 6’2 , samson - 6’2 ..
Only andrew is 6’2 , krizo is 6’1 and samson is 6ft max he said it on his ig story..
I might be wrong...
I actually thought 6'2" is 185 cm...but I just checked 185 cm is actually a little less than 6'1"
Krizo told me that's his height...
Anyway - what is a little exaggeration...it makes it more interesting. 😉
He slipped up and said Behrooz was only 6’.
@@MilosSarcevOfficialTH-camPage you took the time to clear the misunderstanding, you didn't need to though.
A little bit of centimetres don't make a whole lot of difference when we're talking about height, exaggeration is only bad when we're talking length.
Jay with the line of the podcast “Nick’s got balls of steel…” Nick Walker with the Duke Nukem energy 😂
Great content guys💪
So we can not predict the results of Mr.O two weeks out, let's predict next years results :D
I really enjoyed the pod, great questions and awesome analysis!
Milos has the best memory. He remembered it was episode 55 😂😂
Milos comes from a family of doctors. He has a good pedigree and it shows. One of the brightest minds in bodybuilding.
Momo the giant killer was an absolute monster.
Andrew Jacked needs Hany or Milos imagine Andrew putting more size
Needs Hany. Simple.
Miloš, from Bečej - Serbia 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
👑 Another Awesome One
Fab content from all four of you.
I think Father Time and all the atrophied body parts caught up wit ramy. His body took the 2020 peak perfectly but he’s got so much wear and tear on his body I just think it can’t keep up anymore
Ramy = no triceps, no lower back, midsection flat from the side and front lat spread, no calves, no shoulder separation
Derik’s lats are unstoppable
I live on east coast and will never purchase the streams because I am not staying up that late
Can you put up time stamples?
Jay-"and we're back with..
The Mind, you like people calling you Mind?"
Lol
No, I don't....Obviously - I would NEVER call myself that...
The Editorial of FLEX named me "The Mind"...God only knows WHY.
They called Shawn Ray "The Mouth"...😄
@Milos Sarcev lol yeah,I know ,it's just funny how Jay said in the beginning of episode #53 at 0:18 😆
With all of the divisions now, the women should do their prejudging Thursday morning and their finals Thursday night. Mens Open, Classic , 212, Physique prejudging Friday morning (physiques look best in the morning) and then the Finals Saturday night.
Milos, you need to have your own podcast. you are fan favorite everywhere you go. can also tell you have alot more you want to say about subject discussed. Derek has improve his posing from 'riding the horse' thanks to you pointing it out.
Yes....he is riding a pony now...😜
@@MilosSarcevOfficialTH-camPage ha ha
Phenomenal podcast!
I can listen to these guys all day 💪
For the Pay Per View, we watched from OH. We were in bed by 10:30 pm. We tried to catch the prejudging the next day and couldn't because it wasn't posted the next morning. However, we did catch the finals on Sunday... Sorry, but too late for our bodybuilding enthusiast's household. Probably our last Pay Per View experience in general. We'll catch the highlights from you and the other podcasters.
Exactly. I don’t purchase the show because it’s so damn long and you have no idea when they’ll actually be on stage. Just not gonna sit around for it. Mix in when it’s already happening so late might as well just look it up the next day.
Nobody loves the game more than milos
BEST RECAP ON TH-cam 😁😁😁😁😁😁
Thanks Jay for saying what we all were thinking. I live on the east coast and fell asleep. I think it also affected the quality of the athletes on stage. Such a shame because it had a chance to be one of the best Olympia’s.
Milos get your website up and running
Samson easily won both side shots (Side Chest 41:37, Side Tricep 46:48) it was not even close. His Rear Lat Spread, Front Lat Spread, and Abs and thighs were also at least third. He should have placed third you do not even have to add the scores up.
How many of Samson shots were 5th or 6th ? Maybe his Rear Double at a push. So how can he finish 6th. Impossible.
Fellas don't get too excited about Derek as both his side shots are weak.
Shots :
Front Double Bicep - Hadi, Derek, Nick, Samson, Rami, Brandon.
Front Lat Spread - Rami, Hadi, Derek, Samspon, Brandon, Nick.
Side Chest - Samson, Nick, Rami, Hadi, Brandon, Derek.
Rear Double Bicep - Derek, Hadi , Nick, Samson, Brandon, Rami.
Rear Lat Spread - Hadi, Derek, Samson, Rami, Nick, Brandon.
Side Tricep - Samson, Nick, Rami, Hadi, Brandon, Derek.
Abs & Thighs - Hadi, Derek, Samson, Nick, Rami, Brandon.
Most Muscular - Hadi, Brandon, Nick, Samson, Derek, Rami.
So the "Cumulative Scores" from 1 to 6 gives you :
(1) Hadi - 16
(2) Samson - 24
(3) Derek - 27
(4) Nick - 28
(5) Rami - 33
(6) Brandon - 40
So take all the bullshit out of it Samson should have been 2nd or 3rd.
To have show, you need the other divisions before Men's Open. If you go to a UFC event or Boxing, if they have the Main Event before the undercards. When the show first starts the place is half full. Also, the 45 minute delay in starting the show didn't help. Eliminating the point system for qualification will help reduce the size of every division which will help improve timing.
8:40 this is where i get thrown off with my limited knowledge. Guy is about to say he's seen better abs and better right quad on Ramy. I'm looking at same mf footage in 4k. Wtf is he talking about. There's great separation in the abs. I know Ronnie's legs look a little different than like 2013 but cmon. His quad?!? This is quite possibly the 3rd quadzilla of all time - behind Mr. Platz & Jay. I dont get it.
Yes, Ramy's back was not there. And triceps were flat. And then some weird bumps on glutes. Other than that -- he looked great. Good enough for top 5. I think. Idk now. Lol
Hunter was bigger this year but stomach was bigger and he didn't look as lean. Not just watery, looked higher bodyfat than last year.
He did post a pic of him a couple days out or something where he looked better, so he probably didn't peak properly either. In general, he makes improvements each year though, so I think we can expect better next year
The ONLY opinion that counts. Milos ! Kindest regards, Richard U.K
Milos is such an amazing analyst, dude always speaking facts 💯
41:52 if this was the only pose to judge, that’s Mr Olympia right there! 😮
If you want to know how Behrooz would’ve done, Brett smoked 4 or so 3rd callout guys in Spain 2 weeks out, mopped the floor with them and Behrooz matched Brett’s shape with better muscle bellies and conditioning. If he was equal to his form in Romania I’d say 2nd callout is probably accurate!
Thank you!
Love it good enuff god bless u guys commentary
I never noticed the knots in ramys lower lats until now.
Milos Sarcev should be the president of the IFBB/NPC.
Modern Bodybuilding is all about who can hide SEO the best!!!! 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Everyone Looks like Shit! 😆
Bad luck for Ramy and Samson stood next to him and exposed Ramy’s numerous terrible blemishes with comparable size, incredible shape, and no blemishes of his own…
Andrew Jacked is the most impressive bodybuilder on the planet and probably since Ronnie putting conditioning aside. No one comes close with the shape and size combination
he looks more like flex wheeler
Too thin from the back and side just yet to Win the O, but if he keeps improving those areas I think he could be quite soon
Milos is a very smart guy he's one of the best in bodybuilding knowledge
Milos is so professional
Men, I wonder what drink is the sponsor for this episode
Guest of honor, Dave FTBB Bourlet.
I'm still trying to figure out why they call Milos, 'The Mind.' Maybe I'll figure it out one day.
Fun episode!
Not a big fan of Walker but that side chest looks amazing! Do you guys think his front lat spread looks less good because of his massive arms ? And will he ever win the O with those vains on the calfs (not hating on him).
I enjoyed my Olympia experience for my first time this year, but pre-judging in Friday night finals was way too long. The awards for The divisions for Friday night were delayed because the people are not in time and pre-judging for open was 11 PM. I didn’t leave planet Hollywood until 1 AM in the morning
Yeeeesssssss his back on the show 🎉
Who was the dead guy that came in at towards the end sitting between Jay and Milos? Was he wearing a mask?
Dennis James is responsible for the result of Ramy
Bruce Lee the king of all bodybuilders
many people are now using this word "flat" to all lacking things in physique.. lets be clear.. Ramy wasnt flat - he was lacking in conditioning and was missing body parts, had holes in his thighs and on top of that his posing was tragic. What went wrong? He wasnt prepared properly. Just because he was big and has size to overwhelm entire line up doesnt mean he will win. Its about shape and how you present it. Just compare 2014 Ramy and his current look. Its a metamorphose to wrong way.
I think everyone was memorize by Derek V tape. I had him 3rd. Jay caught it too. I was not in love with Lunsford lat spread it was impressive but I still think Nick was ahead.
The lighting at the Olympia needs to change! Jay talk to jake wood about this stuff man, everyone on every platform shits on the Olympia lighting…
At 10:30 Jay finally recognizes he lost in 07 :))
You already know I’ve been waiting on this bro!😂
Fantastic watch ✌️🇬🇧
Jay is THE MAN 😎💪🏼💪🏼👍🏻💯💯
If nick could control his mind section the whole time on stage. And spread his arms some on the front double bicep
I'm assuming this will be Milo's last video on the podcast in 2022 I'm sure he will be on 7 times in 2023 lol 😆 🤣 😜
I may agree Samson has the better physique, but Nick didn't beat him on conditioning only.
Nick clobbers Samson in certain poses, regardless of conditioning.