Any device with network capability, such as security cameras can (and will be by the security services) be restricted on their internal network by the UK authorities - no data in or out. This is one purpose of firewalls. Can't understand why the journalists aren't talking to Networking and IT Security experts who can explain the precautions and facts to them.
Hikvision cameras have a nasty tendency to call home to mama from time to time. Also the Firewalls on the cameras themselves are more observed in the breach if you know what I mean. I'd be scared since the state owns most of Hikvision (Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikvision ) so all the profits and the data the cameras are generating are going to China not to mention the assistance everyone that is using the cameras' VCA (fancy acronym for motion sensors and other alarm sensors) to help fine tune optical target recognition algorithms.
Done that, the journalists are aware. Facts are that HIKVISION devices, along with many other brands and devices, create a huge leak. From the moment the IT admin put a device on the network the firewall have about no use as an IT admin works through general principles and is not an ethical hacker who can find data leaks. HIKVISION devices have many sources of leaks, small scripts that the firewall will skip. Then, that information leak can then be used to disinform, mislead, market products, market thoughts and feelings, create false narratives etc.
Many security experts have put these on isolated networks and sniffed the packets and found no issues. On top of that if the cameras are locked down on the network correctly, there shouldn’t be an issue. Most cameras are made in China or use chips produced in China, so even your American made camera could have chips in them from China. I think this is more a ploy to have the UK rip out China made cameras and replace with American made Cameras. In short people working for the government should be able to lock these devices down, if they can’t there is a much bigger security risk. I’d be more concerned with Windows if I was the government.
We have Hikvision on multiple sites but they are POE and only wired in to the NVR with NO internet access. Only one of our sites has internet access where the client has asked for remote view. Without internet access, they are just bog standard CCTV. You would assume GCHQ have the internet option disabled as otherwise any hacker would be able to access these over the internet. Some of the Hikvision models don't even let you change the username from 'admin', so not great to have them wired to to the t'internet.
I'm surprised that not once has the topic of the new UK Cyber Security Centre to be built in relative close proximity to the "Donut" been discussed . Planning has been applied for and granted. A far more interesting story than a handful of Chinese made CCTV cameras, don't you think ?
Found intensionally? Or just bought by UK citizens and installed by UK company? Is this device connected to internal confined network or open network? So much stuff missing in this report.
Well aren't these reporters a shame for the serios ones? You spoted cameras on a building and you made such a fuss, without even bothering to discuss with a security or network expert.
@@jabberjaw84 I'm probably tired to regularly see how people, with no competence, suddenly report false security threats, only for the experts to waste time explaining why those are not valid.
well a security camera usually has no access to internet, a simple decompilation of the code within them should reveal if there is any spyware, I'm sure the UK has cybersecurity specialists
is that not more about a fear over china overtaking the united states/UK in the competition over AI? Are they really a threat on a security level or rather... on a financial level?
No different to Huawei. Gov: "Give us a backdoor. We can get into everyone else's but not yours." Hua: "No." Gov: "Give us a backdoor or we'll say the Chinese have a backdoor." Hua: "No." Gov: "Hey everyone, the Chinese are hacking Huawei."
You can get a 4K UHD Hikvision camera for around £99. A 4K UHD Axis camera (NDDA complient, made in the Netherlands) for around £1,250. These systems are only as secure as you make them. I'm 99% sure that these cameras will be 'airgapped' (meaning they operate on their own seperate network from other of the building's devices meaning that it is COMPLETLY IMPOSSIBLE for any data from othher networks in the building to be accessed by them). At this point it's the media warning to make money reporting on a problem that any competent business' IT department can fix themselves.
Lol the UK makes a lot of security equipment, you haven’t even searched google, just commenting what comes to mind. The government chose to use hikvision equipment because its the best, and the analytical features on board are matched by nothing else
@@pn8902 sorry, let me rephrase. The uk doesnt make anything anymore...compared to our previous generations when we did. look at how much of the Uk manufacturing sector has reduced. As for the equipment i have no doubt its good, but all it takes is one bad bit or kit and the security of any infrastructure is compromised.
@@danielmac7738 Yes agreed, but thats going to happen anyway. If the UK had weak currency and cheap labour then the UK would have become today's China, ok well not really but you get my point
@@pn8902 wouldn't be surprised if they chose to use Hikvision because there was a deal on somewhere, buy one get one free!!! ... Ppl are so incompetent it's like a parody
If this was a game of monopoly between china and the UK, we (uk) would have Stevie wonder as the banker and ray Charles to make sure no one is cheating.
Which country has a history of busying itself with its own populations,.....China or USA? Which country has a history of Interfering itself in other countries,.....China or USA? Which country is a greater threat to UK,.....China or USA?
@@timothydraper3687 Yes sure including tractors and communication towers and cables, or a social media app, rice cookers or even smart toilets, except where's the proof that it has ever been done? On the other hand, it's proven that Uncle Sam listens to every world leader's phones. Anyway, it's your choice to believe in one thing over another and continue to live in fear.
@@commentatortea3650 Asking where any proof is, has me wanting to as how easy a totalitarian party is going to make it for anybody outside of intelligence agencies to find proof, and what relevance the US has to do with CCTV cameras placed in the heart of UK intelligence being made by a company which has to answer to the CCP? Rice cookers and the US aren't relevant, but nice try.
Mind Begs the Question: If People - Politicians are Terrible Politician - They/xyz Threat to us People - Politicians are our Saviors Divide & Rule by Fear Psychosis,no?
Lol this is just fearmongering. You think the UK’s intelligence will connect equipment to their network? Everyone commenting on this topic in the video is unqualified.
On the up side guys, this is so ridiculous it would make great content for a comedy sketch 😂 ... That our security systems are produced by those who wish to spy on us, take our national secrets and do us harm... Big fat lol 😂😂😂
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Any device with network capability, such as security cameras can (and will be by the security services) be restricted on their internal network by the UK authorities - no data in or out. This is one purpose of firewalls. Can't understand why the journalists aren't talking to Networking and IT Security experts who can explain the precautions and facts to them.
The network get money by spreading China fears.
That would get in the way of the sensationalist and Sinophobic reporting.
That's what _Xi_ said.
Hikvision cameras have a nasty tendency to call home to mama from time to time. Also the Firewalls on the cameras themselves are more observed in the breach if you know what I mean. I'd be scared since the state owns most of Hikvision (Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikvision ) so all the profits and the data the cameras are generating are going to China not to mention the assistance everyone that is using the cameras' VCA (fancy acronym for motion sensors and other alarm sensors) to help fine tune optical target recognition algorithms.
Done that, the journalists are aware. Facts are that HIKVISION devices, along with many other brands and devices, create a huge leak. From the moment the IT admin put a device on the network the firewall have about no use as an IT admin works through general principles and is not an ethical hacker who can find data leaks. HIKVISION devices have many sources of leaks, small scripts that the firewall will skip.
Then, that information leak can then be used to disinform, mislead, market products, market thoughts and feelings, create false narratives etc.
Unbelievable. take those damn things down you fools!
time for the Chinese to seek revenge on the damage caused by British Colonialism!!!
This ^^^ FFS
if people around the world starts to take down chinese made cameras then there will be no camera left
Mind Begs the Question:
Chinese Spying,TikTok - Not Ok
Israeli Spying,Pegasus - Ok?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Imagine if Israel treated Palestine the way China treats the Uighurs?
Next you will be saying all the computers and phones are made in China
Many security experts have put these on isolated networks and sniffed the packets and found no issues. On top of that if the cameras are locked down on the network correctly, there shouldn’t be an issue. Most cameras are made in China or use chips produced in China, so even your American made camera could have chips in them from China. I think this is more a ploy to have the UK rip out China made cameras and replace with American made Cameras. In short people working for the government should be able to lock these devices down, if they can’t there is a much bigger security risk. I’d be more concerned with Windows if I was the government.
Wasn't this literally in the plot of BBC programme the Capture?
We have Hikvision on multiple sites but they are POE and only wired in to the NVR with NO internet access. Only one of our sites has internet access where the client has asked for remote view. Without internet access, they are just bog standard CCTV.
You would assume GCHQ have the internet option disabled as otherwise any hacker would be able to access these over the internet. Some of the Hikvision models don't even let you change the username from 'admin', so not great to have them wired to to the t'internet.
Government Procurement at it's best
time for the Chinese to seek revenge on the damage caused by British Colonialism!!!
Council Procurement, actually. Even worse.
Mind Begs the Question:
Chinese Spying,TikTok - Not Ok
Israeli Spying,Pegasus - Ok?
So it's all right if it was made in USA😂😂😂
Better tha the Chinese spies in the US
Spying on you is not your friend.
Mind Begs the Question:
Chinese Spying,Tik Tok - Not Ok
Israeli Spying,Pegasus - Ok?
I'm surprised that not once has the topic of the new UK Cyber Security Centre to be built in relative close proximity to the "Donut" been discussed . Planning has been applied for and granted. A far more interesting story than a handful of Chinese made CCTV cameras, don't you think ?
Mind Begs the Question:
Chinese Spying,TikTok - Not Ok
Israeli Spying,Pegasus - Ok?
Found intensionally? Or just bought by UK citizens and installed by UK company?
Is this device connected to internal confined network or open network? So much stuff missing in this report.
Mind Begs the Question:
Hitler used Media
To falsely Demonize Jews
To spread Nazi Propaganda
More Reliable - Corporate Media,Independent Media?
Who is watching the Watchers indeed.
Well aren't these reporters a shame for the serios ones? You spoted cameras on a building and you made such a fuss, without even bothering to discuss with a security or network expert.
Maybe there wasnt enough time! Why do you care? Do you work for Hikvision.
@@jabberjaw84 I'm probably tired to regularly see how people, with no competence, suddenly report false security threats, only for the experts to waste time explaining why those are not valid.
Mind Begs the Question:
Hitler used Media
To falsely Demonize Jews
To spread Nazi Propaganda
More Reliable - Corporate Media,Independent Media?
If a tory says it you know its a lie 😎👍
If China made it, You know it's a spy.
Toryphobe
well a security camera usually has no access to internet, a simple decompilation of the code within them should reveal if there is any spyware, I'm sure the UK has cybersecurity specialists
Funny how it's never been found
shocking...
is that not more about a fear over china overtaking the united states/UK in the competition over AI? Are they really a threat on a security level or rather... on a financial level?
Mind Begs the Question:
Hitler used Media
To falsely Demonize Jews
To spread Nazi Propaganda
More Reliable - Corporate Media,Independent Media?
No different to Huawei.
Gov: "Give us a backdoor. We can get into everyone else's but not yours."
Hua: "No."
Gov: "Give us a backdoor or we'll say the Chinese have a backdoor."
Hua: "No."
Gov: "Hey everyone, the Chinese are hacking Huawei."
In other words US does not want UK to use China made CCTV camera they want them to use US made Cameras
You can get a 4K UHD Hikvision camera for around £99. A 4K UHD Axis camera (NDDA complient, made in the Netherlands) for around £1,250. These systems are only as secure as you make them. I'm 99% sure that these cameras will be 'airgapped' (meaning they operate on their own seperate network from other of the building's devices meaning that it is COMPLETLY IMPOSSIBLE for any data from othher networks in the building to be accessed by them).
At this point it's the media warning to make money reporting on a problem that any competent business' IT department can fix themselves.
Geniuses
Mind Begs the Question:
Chinese Spying,Tik Tok - Not Ok
Israeli Spying,Pegasus - Ok?
Thats what happens when we dont make anything anymore. between this and MOD contracts given to companies that have links to china.
Lol the UK makes a lot of security equipment, you haven’t even searched google, just commenting what comes to mind.
The government chose to use hikvision equipment because its the best, and the analytical features on board are matched by nothing else
@@pn8902 sorry, let me rephrase. The uk doesnt make anything anymore...compared to our previous generations when we did. look at how much of the Uk manufacturing sector has reduced.
As for the equipment i have no doubt its good, but all it takes is one bad bit or kit and the security of any infrastructure is compromised.
@@danielmac7738 Yes agreed, but thats going to happen anyway. If the UK had weak currency and cheap labour then the UK would have become today's China, ok well not really but you get my point
@@pn8902 wouldn't be surprised if they chose to use Hikvision because there was a deal on somewhere, buy one get one free!!! ... Ppl are so incompetent it's like a parody
@@jabberjaw84 was probably a special deal for the government 😂 china was suspiciously generous when they found out its the government
Next week on Channel 4: Chicken and rice found in GCHQ cafeteria 😅
Why aren't we making security cameras .... buy British
Probably cheaper when it's from China 😂
Scary
Clues in the name , the info has been hiked . .
the parody writes itself
If this was a game of monopoly between china and the UK, we (uk) would have Stevie wonder as the banker and ray Charles to make sure no one is cheating.
Mind Begs the Question:
Chinese Spying,Tik Tok - Not Ok
Israeli Spying,Pegasus - Ok?
Fantastic advert HIKvision. If it's good enough for GCHQ....
Which country has a history of busying itself with its own populations,.....China or USA?
Which country has a history of Interfering itself in other countries,.....China or USA?
Which country is a greater threat to UK,.....China or USA?
China is the greater threat to the UK
Does anyone have a hammer?
The Chinese will watch you use it.
@@skycloud4802 MY gung-fu is BETTER than their gung-fu!
@@kitcarpo4745 you may have Kung-Fu, but they have Winnie the Pooh. What you going to do then?
@@skycloud4802 Fill their Honey Pot with Pooh.
:D
A spy agency in a shared building who thought that up ..30p Lee Anderson lol..keystone cops😮
Someone was asleep at the wheel...
One dose of fear everyday, keeps those real problems miles away~
Every Chinese company, and company based in China, is obliged to give any data it gathers over to the CCP/Chinese state.
@@timothydraper3687 Yes sure including tractors and communication towers and cables, or a social media app, rice cookers or even smart toilets, except where's the proof that it has ever been done? On the other hand, it's proven that Uncle Sam listens to every world leader's phones. Anyway, it's your choice to believe in one thing over another and continue to live in fear.
@@commentatortea3650 Asking where any proof is, has me wanting to as how easy a totalitarian party is going to make it for anybody outside of intelligence agencies to find proof, and what relevance the US has to do with CCTV cameras placed in the heart of UK intelligence being made by a company which has to answer to the CCP? Rice cookers and the US aren't relevant, but nice try.
Cups and plates, forks and spoons, bread and potatoes, are all planted with spying chips. Be extra careful...
Mind Begs the Question:
If People - Politicians are Terrible
Politician - They/xyz Threat to us
People - Politicians are our Saviors
Divide & Rule by Fear Psychosis,no?
Gchq knows everything. Like a police state...
I doubt it, with the amount of crime going on in the UK
@@yaaninja the government is the crime syndicate.
the law was 2014.....and what is now the problem?
not the camera but the software behind this can be a problem, non issui screen polution or trash tv
Laughter is the best medicine. Yeah
They just don't wan to admit that China makes the best CCTV cameras, that's why they are using them.
Fearmongering from Tories.
Yeah we know.
Well the authority or insurance companies aren't utilising them to protect ppl so I guess someone feels they have to lol 😅
Why don’t we ban tik tok in this country
Opps those cameras are every were hospitals library schools job center homlesss shelter salvation army shops there's no escape its to late
Extra bald man shouting at security cameras
Lol this is just fearmongering. You think the UK’s intelligence will connect equipment to their network? Everyone commenting on this topic in the video is unqualified.
Couldn’t make it up 😂
😂😂😂 of course.
time for the Chinese to seek revenge on the damage caused by British Colonialism!!!
Pooh is always watching you.
Beware.
scary headlines oh so scary - the world will end if we all believe all the headlines. So scary@@!!!!!
WELL, CHINESE HAVE ENGLAND HAS THEIR ROLE MODEL
WHAT ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT, NOW?
CHINESE ARE GOOD STUDENT!
No thanks 💀
Ha ha ha
time for the Chinese to seek revenge on the damage caused by British Colonialism!!!
On the up side guys, this is so ridiculous it would make great content for a comedy sketch 😂 ... That our security systems are produced by those who wish to spy on us, take our national secrets and do us harm... Big fat lol 😂😂😂
Duncan Smith aught to see a psychiatrist. He is hallucinating and suffering from paranoia.
Typical western sinophobia 😂😂😂
Paranoia rules..if you want to live in future world..dems da breaks.
😂
It's not like you doesn't do it always take point to blame others but don't think about yourself
🤔
Not nice when the cameras start getting pointed at you is it ! So as the signs say 😁 SMILE YOUR ON CCTV !
Since when did the uk security worry about uhiguir Muslims