Really isnt a big surprise that it didn't stop the shell since it barely stopped the shell from the tiger 1 and there is little stopping the long 88mm, but i still find it impressive that the jumbo's armor can still somewhat stop the tiger 1's shell and indeed possibly the panther in a realistic environment? Maybe try the panther against the jumbo next? Maybe with a bit of distance and angle?
@@Grigoriymicro Fair, but take into consideration the arc of the shell, and the mg port weak spot, and things become a lot more feasible. But yes, still very iffy at long ranges. But if it causes spalling, that is usually enough.
@NIGHTDREADED I have seen a LOT of destroyed shermans and a few jumbos, and there was not even a SINGLE one who got violated through a machine gun port.
I’d like to see simulations of the field up-armoured Shermans that used armor plate from disabled Sherman tanks as additional armour such as done on “Thunderbolt VII”.
What about one of those field conversion jumbos? Like Thunderbolt VII? I'd like to see if it can go through one of those double armored Frankenstein's Monsters. In case anyone doesn't know what I mean, they literally welded on another upper glacis to their upper glacis to double the thickness at the same angle. Yep you read that right 63.5+63.5mm at 47°
Does the penetration or damage change when taking into consideration the spin of the shell? The shells shown in all these simulations are rotationally static, only moving forward
Question of who fires first really, IS-2 and tiger 2 both have somewhat "easy" weakspots which can both be penned by each other's guns (tiger 2 P+H can be killed through turret cheeks or high explosive rounds disabling their hydraulics or weld seams)
@@kazalacker8985 Still, I doubt the German shells would disintegrate in this way, were designed and manufactured to be nearly unbreakable, so probably shell would have keep more or less intact less piercing cap, and probably the fuze would have been inactivated by penetration stress.
@@kazalacker8985 Still, I doubt the German shells would disintegrate in this way, were designed and manufactured to be nearly unbreakable, so probably shell would have keep more or less intact less piercing cap, and probably the fuze would have been inactivated by penetration stress.
If an 88 won't work, have a longer 88
If an 88 is too much, use shorter 88.
@PwntifexMaximus It's never too much lmao @~@
Welcome to Germany
Here we have:
88mm (Tiger)
Strong 88mm (Tiger-2)
Snub nose 75mm (Pz 4 C)
Regular 75mm (Pz 4 F)
Devastation Long 75mm (Panther)
Use an 88, and if that doesn't work, use more 88.
If a 75 don’t work
Have a longer 75
Your computer must constantly be on the verge of bursting into flames with the frequency that you are putting out these sims 😂
@@resurgam_b7 🗿☝️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yes, need water-cooling with an automotive radiator!
Slight emotional event for the whole crew
Thank God for the witness plate 😅
yeah, cant really tell whats happening without it
Balsuok uz Sauliu Goodjevleski
@@matthelord7695 dar du metai,seni 😅
Really isnt a big surprise that it didn't stop the shell since it barely stopped the shell from the tiger 1 and there is little stopping the long 88mm, but i still find it impressive that the jumbo's armor can still somewhat stop the tiger 1's shell and indeed possibly the panther in a realistic environment? Maybe try the panther against the jumbo next? Maybe with a bit of distance and angle?
It almost penetrates, SY has a video on it. I need to do something different now so it wont be soon.
@@simulationbros aaahh okay! Thanks for your reply! I will stay tuned to see what your next project/vid is gonna be!
It did stop the panthers shell from straight on
He found the footage of my average war thunder match
RIP the fuze for the blasting charge.
Knowing German shells, it probably detonated on impact and rang the tank like a bell but did fuck all else.
Request: IJN Yamato 460 mm shell vs USS Missouri belt armor.
It's amazing how velocity can change so much.
Many thanks my friend!!
It barely stopped the Tiger 1 shell, so this isn't really a surprise.
First in Bastogne?
More like "First In The Sky" lol.
At realistic angles and distances, even long 75mm from panther would struggle. But long 88 is a long 88.
@@Grigoriymicro Fair, but take into consideration the arc of the shell, and the mg port weak spot, and things become a lot more feasible. But yes, still very iffy at long ranges. But if it causes spalling, that is usually enough.
@NIGHTDREADED I have seen a LOT of destroyed shermans and a few jumbos, and there was not even a SINGLE one who got violated through a machine gun port.
Ofc they came from WT@@Grigoriymicro
@@issacfoster1113 Nope, didn't come from WT.
What a powerful shell, it can pen a Jumbo from 7.8 miles away!
Seven miles??
I swear bro you must have a war thunder level computer for this. Maybe two
These simulations are really cool. Is there a way to make them myself if it's not too complicated? I wouldn't mind making my own shell and armor.
You forgot to mention the dangerous naval invasion happening in the thyrrenian sea
I’d like to see simulations of the field up-armoured Shermans that used armor plate from disabled Sherman tanks as additional armour such as done on “Thunderbolt VII”.
In the next can you do ISU 152 vs super Pershing front hull armor?
just goes to show, there are 88s and then there are EIGHTY EIGHTs
This just shows how big of a difference between the two tanks is
Next do the FV4005 vs the P.1000 ratte
Do a shermen front plate with another shermen front plate welded onto it vs panther 75 or tiger 1 88 or panzer 4 75 or long 88
Rip driver
Rip crew...
U missed the high explosive filler :]
@@SantaCandidaWer that fuse is not going off, entire cavity collapsed
@connivingkhajiit don't worry the amor fragments are deadly enough
What about one of those field conversion jumbos? Like Thunderbolt VII? I'd like to see if it can go through one of those double armored Frankenstein's Monsters.
In case anyone doesn't know what I mean, they literally welded on another upper glacis to their upper glacis to double the thickness at the same angle.
Yep you read that right 63.5+63.5mm at 47°
Shouldn't the shell velocity be 1000 m/s?
How about the Sherman with Applique armor next
DAMN YOU SNAIL
Bro what software is that
Does the penetration or damage change when taking into consideration the spin of the shell? The shells shown in all these simulations are rotationally static, only moving forward
Compared to the flight spedd they spin so slowly its not even noticeable in a sim so its not added because it would make no difference
Do an m4a3e2 but with FEJ protection
IS-2 vs Tiger-2 ?
@@tnttnttn IS-2 looses as Tiger 2 pens the lower glacis or the turret cheeks or shot traps the turret ring.
@@NIGHTDREADED Ok. I mean Is-2 1944-45 y. Its more better than 1943.
@@tnttnttn Still the same thing. Only thing is upper glacis is much thicker, so no penetrations through it.
Question of who fires first really, IS-2 and tiger 2 both have somewhat "easy" weakspots which can both be penned by each other's guns (tiger 2 P+H can be killed through turret cheeks or high explosive rounds disabling their hydraulics or weld seams)
Is-2 wins, Tiger 2 breaks down before it reaches the battlefield.
The shell doesn’t explode right?
what is your computer specs?
Put some more sandbags on. It will be fine.
Or logs. Logs have been proven to stop a Tiger I's PzGr 39 from 50m (source: Fury)
/s
Why is there a small air gap in the armor??
Just so you can see the 2 seperate plates
"Target destroyed"
Now sherman jumbo against tiger 2 armor
bruh
LOS is only 138.92, I see why it penetrated.
Maus vs cargo ship
Wie durch Butter … 😅
fv4005 vs wiesel 1a4 please (def not history accurate)
Would this fuze as intended?
Nah the entire round got smushed
@@kazalacker8985 Still, I doubt the German shells would disintegrate in this way, were designed and manufactured to be nearly unbreakable, so probably shell would have keep more or less intact less piercing cap, and probably the fuze would have been inactivated by penetration stress.
@@kazalacker8985 Still, I doubt the German shells would disintegrate in this way, were designed and manufactured to be nearly unbreakable, so probably shell would have keep more or less intact less piercing cap, and probably the fuze would have been inactivated by penetration stress.
tiger 2: the return
Just angle it a little :)
t44 would be more interesting
Critical hit....