Braselton94 Legacies' storyline wouldn't have any place for her character. even Hope's dad Klaus was killed off in TO, how would Valerie be of any relevance in Legacies?
@@Myflopera1 oh, nobody said there was no way her character could be written in, of course they can write her in. what i mean was the storyline does not demand her presence there. she does not have any significance in that world at all.
One thing I notice about TVD is that the villains that they first introduce in the beginning of a season usually aren't as dangerous and the villains that come later. Ex: Vampire hunters in season 6 were nowhere as dangerous as Kai, The Originals weren't as bad as Silas, etc.
They (Mary and Nora) tried to protect Beau, from Rayna killing him, and they failed. Which he's dead or only, gets his soul consumed, into the stone of her sword with his body getting destroyed, and then Damon finishes him off by killing his soul in another person's body. If not, him getting killed, there, outside of the hospital, he would had been killed anywhere else, in the real world. Which goes to show why he should've stayed in that prison world, he was in when we first see him. Same for Mary and Nora, since their weakness is losing each other. They thought it was fun killing people and really liked it, but now how do they like it where one of them gets killed. Such a shame is killed Beau here, Malcolm in the first episode of this season, and Mary & Nora in episode 16.
Sorry but the Heretics are not the smartest. I mean they are both witch and vampire. They should be unstoppable. They can't use magic on Rayna but non of them could bring down the wall to stop her. Non of them couldn't use steel to wrap around her. If I were a Heretic I would be using all kinds of Magic to protect myself. I would create my own immortality spell and make my physical body absolutely indestructible. Impenetrable by any weapon. I would be the only Force. But no they can't write that, they just have to run.
Not anyone can just create an immortality spell. Keep in mind that while they may be powerful, they been desecrated for a while now so they don't have the knowledge or skill to do such things.
@@thatkamigirl2100 i really thought they don't have heartbeat tho, but then i remember they have blood and everything and when their heart got ripped, they're dead dead
@@jamesluna2322 its weird how they couldnt siphon the scar, well ok i get why they cant siphpn the scar but she shouldve been able to siphon the magical psychic imprint that scar has
Oh for sure, this was def for the plot bc they are so powerful that they can siphon Gods like in legacy, so it was def for the plot and for Raynas storyline. Bc the mark itself is magic.
Ana Marques I love Valerie her and beau were my favourite heretics I hope when it's all over and Stefan and Caroline break up for good Stefan will go find Valerie and be with her Valerie is the only who really besides Katherine that loved Stefan unconditionally I mean she almost died trying to save him
So technically Beau is still alive.. His soul went into Rayna's sword and yes she did burn his body to where he couldn't be brought back to his body because it is now gone but she the two heretics blew up the stone and all the souls shot out into different people some vampires some not then Beau's soul should of went into someone else's body.ik Damon and Bonnie killed mostly every vampire that escaped but they should of made a point to show that one of them was Beau's soul in one of the vampires that they had to kill.. Do yaw get what I'm trying to get at here???
lol ,, i dont get that thought like technically their soul isnt a vampire .... their body is ... so i dont see how their soul couldnt survive in another human body ......
I see why Matt works with her. She's unstoppable I mean I get why he's working with her. He's just sick of it. Vampires kill and torture whoever they want without any accountability. This is just deserts for all Vampires. Go Matt and Rayna.
But thats dumb of him...In everything you have good and bad, Just as how you have good and bad vampires. I think matt should let go of all the macho stuff and really be humbled. He helped rayna get stefen. Stefen saved his ass from drowning. 😒😒
Shaquille Gordon And he helped bring him back from the other side. My point is everything good and bad can eventually just be bad with time and perspective he's had both and this has been a long time coming.
Lizzie is a heretic now which left me wondering if the heretics need daylight rings. Was that ever mentioned? Hybrids didn’t which is why Hayley burned when her werewolf side was bound but what about heretics I don’t know whether they ever clarified that.
I have an amazing respect for her still filming, instead of being in a "spiritual coma" that is more of a loop-hole if you ask me. Im glad she just didn't abandon the series cause of an EX like you no who. Even know she dated Matt & Jeremy IRL, professional! ♥♀♾️
She's stronger than ancient vampires she's immune to magic so you can't sense her coming and you can't ward your house. She has incredible reflexes so Vamp speed is a dud and once she stabs you with her sword she can track and see your every movement she is the Huntress! On that note every time she dies she just comes back stronger than before.
Tbh even though they were monsters at first they all ended up getting the redemption that they needed but I felt bad for Nora Beau and Mary Louise they didn’t deserve what they got tbh
u cant the heretics are siphoner witches they can only draw magic from other objects/beings so when they got turned into vampire they had a constant source
This whole thing has a bunch of plot holes . Yes she could kill them cause of her strength but they could easily compel a bunch of trained assassins to capture her and keep her ass locked up .or keep her chained up and throw her to the bottom of the ocean with a ton of chains on her
+glorilol 95 They were never good. Its just Rayna is immune to all forms of magic except Shamanism I'm assuming and she's really really strong. Much stronger than maybe The Originals if need be.
@@hbgguled2495 no she is just immune to direct offensive magic casted by the *shamans* it is risky but if the heretics can siphon all that protection spell, rayna would oof
the vampire Diaries and it is so powerful she has strong thing and the fire went right strong she could hurt and her whole family helped her thumbs up for her make sure you put lots lots lots lots the wimpiest 15999 89 9
Look... legacyes will never be a sequel of the vampire diaryes and the originals i like hope she is awesome butt the story is so woke i want the original cast of the both series with hope elena,rebekah, caroline, damon and ressurected klaus hayley
Stefan set I have a family that I was forever please never happen to them please I will. I think it's working I can't let you leave you don't want them to die. If you don't get out our way. None of us though she is right you need to let them go I'll take care of my own what's wrong with us. Baby Damon I messed up and I need to make it right 👍👍 you call the wrong time. Damon she is coming right to you I heard you on that gave it to her Caroline will it be more helpless right now make this affairs problem. What is he talking about what is going on what I do not know why is he so mad at you. I screwed up bad Bonnie. ❤ good 👍👍👍 I wish that would come back on
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Valerie could have left Caroline to die but her love to Stefan is pure.
Not only her love for Stefan, but she was so pure.
“What Do You Mean She’s Surrounded by Heretics?!”🤣
Now his daughter is one!
@@GermanShepherdDaphne how ironic
@@GermanShepherdDaphne I hope Valerie comes back and helps lizzie adapt being a heretic or something
I love Val, such a pure soul. Hope they include her in Legacies.
Braselton94 Legacies' storyline wouldn't have any place for her character. even Hope's dad Klaus was killed off in TO, how would Valerie be of any relevance in Legacies?
jaypee 1987 Maybe as a professor at the school. Seeing her experience in magic is so long and extensive. Like it would be cool to see Freya also.
Braselton94 Freya's presence there is reasonable, she's Hope's aunt anyway. Valerie is like, eh, what she doin there? lol
@@jaypz7781 there’s always a way
@@Myflopera1 oh, nobody said there was no way her character could be written in, of course they can write her in. what i mean was the storyline does not demand her presence there. she does not have any significance in that world at all.
One thing I notice about TVD is that the villains that they first introduce in the beginning of a season usually aren't as dangerous and the villains that come later. Ex: Vampire hunters in season 6 were nowhere as dangerous as Kai, The Originals weren't as bad as Silas, etc.
+Laiba Yes but in season 5 Silas and Quetsiyah were stronger then Markos and the Travellers.All u said is true for seasons 1,2 and 3 tho.
True but the Travelers still won technically, bc the Other Side went away
And that meant that Silas couldn't come back
+Laiba my point is that in season 5 the stronger villains were in the beggining
Well sorta but the beginning villains always somehow get beaten by the second ones and usually side with the TVD crew before that
I miss the heretics! Now in the Legacies, Caroline’s daughter Lizzie will become one :)
I guess "heretics" it's a name they chose for them, I don't think it's the same for lizzie or am I wrong?
What makes you think that ? That she’ll become heretic ?
@@dumasjacari It’s in the recent episode.
@@enzomartinez8083 It’s the same thing. They are a siphon witch vampire hybrid. So as Lizzie.
@@dumasjacari well because last episode lizzie died with vampire blood in her sistem, she's one of them now
This is one of the reasons why she is the strongest one out of all them bc she did this all by herself and she didn’t even bleed
The heretics deserved a better ending
No they didn't!
They were downright evil!
They ruined Mystic Falls!
They deserved to be hunted down and tortured by Rayna!!
@@erock8616 dude that sounds heartless they helped a women give birth wtf are you saying? have a heart
@@donedealsnz7375 yeah and don’t forget how they completely destroyed Matt police group he had… putting fire and all that just to be petty 🤷🏼♀️
They started off bad but some of them redeemed themselves.
@@elenatorres5114 Because he and Caroline tried to murder them...payback
I wanted more from the Heretics. And now that Lizzie, this will be an exciting & complex life going forward. How will Josie handle this??
I miss Nora and Mary Lou..
IloveNoraandMaryLouise tvd I miss Nora I couldn't stand Mary Louise
Child yes Mary Lou got on my absolute nerves but Nora that’s my b.....itch
Me too
same i loved them together
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And now the Heretics are standing with them and the Huntress is the dangerous one
Oh woah twin witches- omg twitches!!
Kent Lee I was waiting for someone to say that
Kent Lee
😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Stefan : “Stay and I’ll do anything I can to protect you from this wo-“
Bye. 🖐
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Valerie needs to show up in legacies !
Yes!
OMG yes!!!😭😭😭
YES NOW THAT LIZZIE IS A HERETIC VAL COULD HELP HER
They (Mary and Nora) tried to protect Beau, from Rayna killing him, and they failed. Which he's dead or only, gets his soul consumed, into the stone of her sword with his body getting destroyed, and then Damon finishes him off by killing his soul in another person's body. If not, him getting killed, there, outside of the hospital, he would had been killed anywhere else, in the real world. Which goes to show why he should've stayed in that prison world, he was in when we first see him. Same for Mary and Nora, since their weakness is losing each other. They thought it was fun killing people and really liked it, but now how do they like it where one of them gets killed. Such a shame is killed Beau here, Malcolm in the first episode of this season, and Mary & Nora in episode 16.
You make zero since
@@ravenlich1299 Only to you, but no one else.
@@matthewkretschmer7010 Nope, many others agree.
Sorry but the Heretics are not the smartest. I mean they are both witch and vampire. They should be unstoppable. They can't use magic on Rayna but non of them could bring down the wall to stop her. Non of them couldn't use steel to wrap around her. If I were a Heretic I would be using all kinds of Magic to protect myself. I would create my own immortality spell and make my physical body absolutely indestructible. Impenetrable by any weapon. I would be the only Force. But no they can't write that, they just have to run.
Facts!
exactly! this show is fucking stupid at times
+Sir Rodriguez Julie Plec has exhausted the hell out of me.
Not anyone can just create an immortality spell. Keep in mind that while they may be powerful, they been desecrated for a while now so they don't have the knowledge or skill to do such things.
yeah you can also send things flying at Rayna cruz I'd throw her own damn sword at her
And now one of the baby’s is an herecric now
Who else came here from the mid season finale of Legacies?
I just realised that Nora was in Harry Potter movie,she was in Sliterhyn house...."Deathly hallows" part 2...is it just me?
She played Pansy Parkinson
Yes she was, she said "someone grab him"...
Oh yeaahhhh
Now that Legacies beginning to be back on track,RETURN THE YVD VIBE TO IT!
I don't understand how Rayna can fight vampires who r way faster and stronger than her.
Ezra Corvines she does have strength
White Phoenix of the Crown she was enchanted by the shamans, giving her increased strength and many lives too.
She has a weapon against them, and she's not faster, but is stronger.
i think she's like Buffy. lol.
She’s stronger maybe 900yera old vampire strength but no speed or reflex
Only just realised that the brunette heretic is Pansy Parkinson from Harry Potter
no offense...how the heck does caroline have a heartbeat
I think it was the heartbeat of the babies, not necessarily her. And I guess magic was keeping them alive since technically Caroline isn't.
tvd vampires are like normal healthy humans long as they find blood
Katrina Huang they are tvd vampires not twilight ones. They can eat they can even shit
You must be thinking of twilight vampires
@@thatkamigirl2100 i really thought they don't have heartbeat tho, but then i remember they have blood and everything and when their heart got ripped, they're dead dead
Plot hole … why didn’t they siphon the magic from his scar
Valerie tried that w stefan cuz he was also marked and was dying when damon almost killed rayna. It didnt work
@@jamesluna2322 its weird how they couldnt siphon the scar, well ok i get why they cant siphpn the scar but she shouldve been able to siphon the magical psychic imprint that scar has
Oh for sure, this was def for the plot bc they are so powerful that they can siphon Gods like in legacy, so it was def for the plot and for Raynas storyline. Bc the mark itself is magic.
Alaric only cares about his children being born not even slightly it Caroline survives or not
If I️ was on tvd I️ would be a heretic that’s the best creature on tvd in my opinion
I would be a trybrid. Best I would be a wizard
For me it's between a original hybrid or heretic
How about being in the Gemini covern then turn into an original vampire
@@waynewebb5496 so if there's wolf-vampire, and witch-vampire, is there wolf-which?
@@lilmercy1580 yes its possible but they would only be a witch primarily unless their wolf curse is triggered making them a hybrid
The heretics need their own series!
I been said this unfortunately it’s probably too late now
I like Valerie!
Me too ❤️
Adi - pfft I love all the Heretics.They are just the best.
Ana Marques I love Valerie her and beau were my favourite heretics I hope when it's all over and Stefan and Caroline break up for good Stefan will go find Valerie and be with her Valerie is the only who really besides Katherine that loved Stefan unconditionally I mean she almost died trying to save him
Ana Marques love the accent !
I actually hate her...
So technically Beau is still alive.. His soul went into Rayna's sword and yes she did burn his body to where he couldn't be brought back to his body because it is now gone but she the two heretics blew up the stone and all the souls shot out into different people some vampires some not then Beau's soul should of went into someone else's body.ik Damon and Bonnie killed mostly every vampire that escaped but they should of made a point to show that one of them was Beau's soul in one of the vampires that they had to kill.. Do yaw get what I'm trying to get at here???
Jamie Blake beau went into a different vampire body but Damon killed him
Jamie Blake even if Beau is alive,a vampire can't stay inside a humans bad for long.If they do,they would die.
Jamie Blake Damon killed the vampire beau was in
lol ,, i dont get that thought like technically their soul isnt a vampire .... their body is ... so i dont see how their soul couldnt survive in another human body ......
@@mrkoala7193 he didn’t end up in a witches body he ended up in another vampire body and Damon killed him
Kind of full circle, that one of the twins became a heretic when heretics help them be born
I see why Matt works with her. She's unstoppable I mean I get why he's working with her. He's just sick of it. Vampires kill and torture whoever they want without any accountability. This is just deserts for all Vampires. Go Matt and Rayna.
But thats dumb of him...In everything you have good and bad, Just as how you have good and bad vampires. I think matt should let go of all the macho stuff and really be humbled. He helped rayna get stefen. Stefen saved his ass from drowning. 😒😒
Shaquille Gordon And he helped bring him back from the other side. My point is everything good and bad can eventually just be bad with time and perspective he's had both and this has been a long time coming.
matt reminds me of a an annoying feminist like no honey sit down and stfu
Guled Hero
fatty complex especially seeing how some of the vampires are his friends
Lizzie is a heretic now which left me wondering if the heretics need daylight rings. Was that ever mentioned? Hybrids didn’t which is why Hayley burned when her werewolf side was bound but what about heretics I don’t know whether they ever clarified that.
Sorry late comment but heretics do classify as hybrids and they don't need daylight rings
@@WerePuppyOfEnglandAndCanadathey need magic to conceal themselves for the sun. Anyway.
actually because they are half witch (siphoner), their witch side protects them from the sun, because witches are servants of nature.@@hao9508
the heretics reminded me of the originals guys
because they have British accent?
Oh. Woman version of Gabriel, lord of war from original Charmed on first season and sword with crystal.
What?
the stomach looks so fake
Nightsage 2 Candice was actually pregnant
ikr
Nightsage 2 It’s Real she was Really Pregnant that’s why they made this Insane Loophole to The Vampire Pregnancy Rule
I have an amazing respect for her still filming, instead of being in a "spiritual coma" that is more of a loop-hole if you ask me. Im glad she just didn't abandon the series cause of an EX like you no who. Even know she dated Matt & Jeremy IRL, professional! ♥♀♾️
Well the show only established that vampires cannot create children; they didn't say anything about them being unable to house someone else's kids.
How do I not remember this scene
why is she so feared when shes only 190+ years old?
Because she is powerful
olisah edekobi
She's stronger than ancient vampires she's immune to magic so you can't sense her coming and you can't ward your house. She has incredible reflexes so Vamp speed is a dud and once she stabs you with her sword she can track and see your every movement she is the Huntress! On that note every time she dies she just comes back stronger than before.
i Like this girl Rayna, OMG she is so Badass
IKR she reminds me of katherine, but no one will ever beat katherine she was the best
Adi - I know I loved Katherine I was and am pissed that she was killed
ikr
i
She is Bitch
The heretics take care of there own. The twins was sort of there Coven so they was like sure plus there babies they didn’t do anything.
I wish I could meet them 😊😊😊
Tbh even though they were monsters at first they all ended up getting the redemption that they needed but I felt bad for Nora Beau and Mary Louise they didn’t deserve what they got tbh
I thot they sed one cannot be a vampire and a witch at d same time??!!
u cant the heretics are siphoner witches they can only draw magic from other objects/beings so when they got turned into vampire they had a constant source
being a siphon witch means you can only draw power from a source, as a vampire they can draw power from the vampirism as a source of magic
Only siphoner witches can be heretics
Stefan is cute 💘
i forgot why they chose to help caroline
Why didn’t they whoosh or whatever the name is for when vampires go really fast, why were they going so slow out of the hospital
This whole thing has a bunch of plot holes . Yes she could kill them cause of her strength but they could easily compel a bunch of trained assassins to capture her and keep her ass locked up .or keep her chained up and throw her to the bottom of the ocean with a ton of chains on her
so heretics are good guys now?....
+glorilol 95 They were never good. Its just Rayna is immune to all forms of magic except Shamanism I'm assuming and she's really really strong. Much stronger than maybe The Originals if need be.
glorilol 95 compared to Rayna yes
@@hbgguled2495 shamanism are a group of witches that are extinct, villains like inadu were born in the elderly tribe of shamans
@@hbgguled2495 no she is just immune to direct offensive magic casted by the *shamans* it is risky but if the heretics can siphon all that protection spell, rayna would oof
Momento de tensão...
Love essa série ❤
why wasn’t caroline healing when she was being cut open- 🤔
Because the twins were draining the magic of her body so and all vampire’s powers were magic.
I like vampire
Who's stronger? Harry potter wizards or Tvd heretics?
Valar Dohaeris Harry Potter wizards because they actually have common sense
Incantation: Phesmatos sequitos in lucema infantesi mortuous. Venis ad vitur. Venis ad essendier. Factuo partis viventia.
Is this a language?
@@Ferchixx yes... Latín
Anyone else really just want Ric to shut up. Like I know he’s the father but right now he’s really the most unimportant piece in this puzzle.
I’m sad cuz mary and Nora die together beau dies and idk a val
the vampire Diaries and it is so powerful she has strong thing and the fire went right strong she could hurt and her whole family helped her thumbs up for her make sure you put lots lots lots lots the wimpiest 15999 89 9
Beau deserved better bruuuuuh
where can i get d full movie? isnt it on youtube?
try and search online
valeria es buen personaje
What season and episode was this plz tell me
Season 7 Episode 13
Couldn't they siphon rayna's mark?
I don't even like poppy.
Omg
. Whp is the father ??????
Kashanka27 Alaric the kids Caroline is carrying are carrying are his and Jo’s kids
Epic
Valerie is my love ❤❤❤
Whos the father of carolines babys i thought she was married to stephan
BADLY NATALY Alaric they are Jo's twins but they are technically Caroline's
Kieya Willams what ?:) i guess i missed too much
the babies are jo's and alaric's and they were put with a spell in caroline. Caroline is dating Stefan*
how can i watch a full season 7 here?
Netflix
123movies or Netflix.
LOL af
love
Look... legacyes will never be a sequel of the vampire diaryes and the originals i like hope she is awesome butt the story is so woke i want the original cast of the both series with hope elena,rebekah, caroline, damon and ressurected klaus hayley
Os hereges 😍
I still can't stand alaric
Isn she already died !!!!.... a.k.a vampire ..😶😶😳😳
Stefan set I have a family that I was forever please never happen to them please I will. I think it's working I can't let you leave you don't want them to die. If you don't get out our way. None of us though she is right you need to let them go I'll take care of my own what's wrong with us. Baby Damon I messed up and I need to make it right 👍👍 you call the wrong time. Damon she is coming right to you I heard you on that gave it to her Caroline will it be more helpless right now make this affairs problem. What is he talking about what is going on what I do not know why is he so mad at you. I screwed up bad Bonnie. ❤ good 👍👍👍 I wish that would come back on
It's fake
aint Caroline a vampire how she pregnant
Keegan Bullous when Jo died the Gemini coven used magic to put the twins inside of caroline
Saskia Carter the coven cloaked them
I'm sorry but I don't want him to be with Caroline it makes me sick
💖👍
It’s season 6 not 7