When I was at inferno metal festival in Oslo Norway this year every black metal band I talked to about gear highly recommended the fireball 100 especially mayhem and Emperor they really love that amp. Killer comparison brother you got a new subscriber and I just found out today that your friends with my old friend Shane Pool lol
@daviddrake3481 hell yeah dude! Love Shane. We were in 2 projects together. Sorrowful end and Malefic way back in the day. Thanks for checking out the video!
Personally, I tried both too and the straightforwardness of the Fireball was it the final choice. Liks you said, Savage is more versatile given the number of channels and the EQ, but it requires way more tweaking than the Fireball.
Bro, Devin... Thats so crazy. I just bought (literally yesterday) a Fireball 100... Been on a super stoked rush because of it for the last 2 days... Incredible amp!
@@DeathMetalDevin its the best deal ive ever got on an amp. Seller said he bought it last Xmas, o thought he meant 2022, it was '23, so its only 3 months old, he had the Z4 footswitch and a cover which dont come with the amp... ALL for $1k... By far the best deal ive ever found. (Also found out that he actually had another buyer before me that no-showed, so it was meant to be.) Great work on the content, man.
@@27retrodaze Bro that’s a ridiculous deal. I got mine last year (about 6 months old, mint condition with very little use) with the Z4 switch for $1500 and I thought that was a great deal LOL. Such a killer amp. Congratulations 🤘
@@brucemahaffey108 for sure... I own about 15 different heads now, tube and solid state, large and small... That was the best deal ive gotten yet... To be honest with you, its the only reason why i bought it, i really didnt have an Engl on my mind, but i knew it was a great deal... I seem to really like the Fireball more and more every time i play it.
Opted to watch for the great comparison, but also got excellent riffage! Re: Fireball The Bright switch only works on the clean channel. Also, the treble is a bit different from the typical high gain amp. It also pushes the upper mids along with the top end, yet it needs to be around 3 o’ clock to really kick into effect - it’ll brighten the amp up nicely if you find it to be too dark with a given speaker combination.
The savage 120MK II has in the reality such an mean attack and tightness that is reached by NO other ENGL-Amp when the settings are dialed in correctly.Plus it has a upper midrange that lets you cut through a bandsituation as you would weald a sword that cuts through flesh and bones.As a lead guitarist I personally like the savage more.But the combination of both is massive.My bandmate is playing the Fireball and together we get a band-tone that wakes the dead.that is because both amplifies complement each other in certain frequencies.As I mentioned the savage has that ultra-tight aggression and upper midbite while the fireball has a more loose bottomend and more deeper mid frequencies.Savage is bit like a moddet 2203 with a bit Mark V saturation,fireball like a mix of a boosted dual rectifier in low end and that 5150 growl.The complements one and other perfectly.Both are great amplifiers.🤘
I don’t played it but I know that the lead the first high gain-channel of the FE is the same as the Artist Edition in the high gain channel and the Artist Edition 100 is one of my main amplifiers.Its tight,crunchy,juicy and have that marshallesque top end.
I prefer the Fireball. You do have to dial it in a little more to brighten it up a touch. But the simplicity and cost cannot be beat. I do use a 10 band EQ in the loop on it.
Both great amps, and I’m glad that I went with the Savage MKII 120. The lead channel on the Savage is just a tad more crisp, plus the MIDI capabilities made it a no brainer for me, as I don’t have to tap dance with my pedalboard. It also pairs very well with my Revv Generator 120.
@@Mike_HuntizWetI love both amps, but if I had to choose one over the other, the Generator 120 would be it. It’s only a few hundred more than the Savage 120, but it also has the Two Notes hardware included, which is great for low volume recording, or if you want to run the amp direct in a live situation. It has two distinctly different high gain channels instead of just one, while the Savage has two crunch/mid gain channels. Not that the high gain channel isn’t capable of having both great rhythm and lead tones, because it definitely can be done with the MIDI switchable voicings and dual presence and master volume controls. I just love how the purple and red channels on the Generator have very distinctive tones. I do like the clean channel on the Savage a little more than the one on the Generator, as it has a more “spanky” character to it, but the clean channel on the Generator is very good as well. It’s definitely warm enough to play jazz licks. The Generator also comes with a footswitch, while the ones that work with the Savage are sold separately. That would be a non-factor for me though, as I have a MIDI capable effects unit that controls all of my amp and effects switching for both amps.
I have the Fireball with it, a 2x12 horizontal Engl cab and coupled with an mxr fullbore metal and, frankly, nothing better for navigating between death and brutal death metal.
Fireball is absolutely killer. After comparing these 2 I felt the Fireball was more aggressive and could basically do all the channels the Savage had so I sold it
Ugh, I know man... the really grainy one is the go pro of the front of the 2 amps. The other main one was focused on the go pro so I looked fuzzy. One of the angles was good but yeah this one was not repairable in post and I didn't want to shoot it over 🤷♂️
I own the savage 120 mkII, I’m not sure if I can get along with it. The crunch channel doesn’t have enough gain, and the lead channel sounds too compressed for my liking. I tend to play my 5150 III 100w stealth in the crunch channel, with a boost it’s perfect.
Lead channel is def compressed sounding. I enjoy it knowing it's a Savage and that's what I'd be getting out of it. The Crunch 2 I think has tons of gain. Grant it I have to crank it but it sounds great. I wish I had the 120 to give that little extra push when I use it for practices with the band. Always wanted a stealth. I know it's a beast
Just put a 100 bucks a side each paycheck man. They are worth it. Check out that other video I did before this comparing the synergy engl Savage to the real one. Pretty damn close for alot less money
@@DeathMetalDevin i was gonna tell him the same thing... Check out the Synergy Savage! You can also get other amps for it later down the line, and they are more affordable.
Great comparison as I am STRUGGLING to choose between the two. I am a new player but I NEED to have good tone to keep me motivated to practice. Of course, I don't want to pay for the Savage if I dont NEED to. So as a beginner wanting that deep dirty metal sound, you think its a safe choice to buy the Fireball? I will match it with an ENGL 412XXL cab. The Savage is $1000 more!!!! Dang! Would you say it sounds $1000 better?
@BrianAz just a few things to consider. 1 - do you plan to play live with it? In a metal band? If so savage is morenmid forward and will cut through the mix better and easier. 2 - if not playing live maybe consider the fireball 25 watt. Huge tones from a small amp. 3. All ENGLs have that flavor, don't worry too much about if ones better than the other, find the features of the amp rather than tonal characteristics. 4 - if ur doing the IR route and no physical speaker check out the engl 530 preamp. Rivals both in tone for 500 used
@@DeathMetalDevin THANK you as you are one of the very few who will answer my questions! I feel like I will back down a little to the Fireball 100 instead of the Savage since I wont be playing anywhere but my home studio. I just play for my own fun so this should do me. I really want to hear the metal through a cab so I'm going to say, screw it, and get the big ridiculous over the top ENGL 412XXL and blow the windows out... just because. THANKS AGAIN!~
if you want a great tip use eq 440hz-420hz mid cut (play with the db cut and q) on the fireball in the effect loop and you get the best sound :) i do it with my engl streve morse too
Def, when playing with my band I want that little bit more of a push so it doesn't muddy up with the power tubes when I use the Savage. But we play loud. The Fireball though, no problems
And don’t worry about some of the memes online about these amps “not cutting in a mix”. Some of these have to be dialled a distinct way, unlike the more classic high gain amps, when going against those other amps and speaker combinations in a live setting. With the Fireball, for example, don’t be hesitant about really pushing the treble and the presence when needed as they will also help the upper mids and sizzle stand out in the mix with plenty of punchy low end.
Wat? First of all I buy what I have. Second, there's no such thing as a fireball 2 unless you're talking about the 25 watt.... let me know when you post about a fireball 2
@@DeathMetalDevin Thanks for 4 UR reviews I understand you do what is available to you maybe I was wrong and was looking at a 25-watt full-sized head. It was just a question that all. Have a good one
Hey Devin, great comparison 👍🏻 I also played them both and really can't decide which one I liked more 😅 You gotta try out the actual available Engl Rackstuff. The e530 Preamp is the perfect combination with the Savage tightness and the Fireball aggression. Paired with the matching e840 Poweramp (or FX-Loop Return into the FB100) this thing is insane. Only downside: no Noisegate I made some Demos to the e530, check my Channel if you're interested. Cheers from Germany Gerd ✌🏻
@VanjaSpirin agreed, the fireball does sit in the lower frequency range and the Savage sits more on the mid frequency range. But man they are super close. As long as it has the ENGL flavor
I think I like the Fireball 100 more. I really like how its so simple and brings the brootz!
I really dig that Immortal kind of riffs, very nice, and both amps are sick 🔥
When I was at inferno metal festival in Oslo Norway this year every black metal band I talked to about gear highly recommended the fireball 100 especially mayhem and Emperor they really love that amp.
Killer comparison brother you got a new subscriber and I just found out today that your friends with my old friend Shane Pool lol
@daviddrake3481 hell yeah dude! Love Shane. We were in 2 projects together. Sorrowful end and Malefic way back in the day. Thanks for checking out the video!
Personally, I tried both too and the straightforwardness of the Fireball was it the final choice.
Liks you said, Savage is more versatile given the number of channels and the EQ, but it requires way more tweaking than the Fireball.
Bro, Devin... Thats so crazy. I just bought (literally yesterday) a Fireball 100... Been on a super stoked rush because of it for the last 2 days... Incredible amp!
Fuckin killer. Really glad you got something like this man. You won't need anything else!!! Maybe lol
@@DeathMetalDevin its the best deal ive ever got on an amp. Seller said he bought it last Xmas, o thought he meant 2022, it was '23, so its only 3 months old, he had the Z4 footswitch and a cover which dont come with the amp... ALL for $1k... By far the best deal ive ever found. (Also found out that he actually had another buyer before me that no-showed, so it was meant to be.) Great work on the content, man.
@27retrodaze dude no way. 1 grand that is a killer deal. Got mine for 13. Freaking congrats dude you deserve it for being such a cool dude
@@27retrodaze Bro that’s a ridiculous deal. I got mine last year (about 6 months old, mint condition with very little use) with the Z4 switch for $1500 and I thought that was a great deal LOL. Such a killer amp. Congratulations 🤘
@@brucemahaffey108 for sure... I own about 15 different heads now, tube and solid state, large and small... That was the best deal ive gotten yet... To be honest with you, its the only reason why i bought it, i really didnt have an Engl on my mind, but i knew it was a great deal... I seem to really like the Fireball more and more every time i play it.
Love the laughter man, we all know that feeling when something sounds heavy af! 😂😂😂
These amps def make me laugh with pure brutality enjoyment lol
Pretty similar. It seems on lead Fireball a bit more articulated and brighter
18:50 how I like my fireball set!
Opted to watch for the great comparison, but also got excellent riffage!
Re: Fireball
The Bright switch only works on the clean channel. Also, the treble is a bit different from the typical high gain amp. It also pushes the upper mids along with the top end, yet it needs to be around 3 o’ clock to really kick into effect - it’ll brighten the amp up nicely if you find it to be too dark with a given speaker combination.
The savage 120MK II has in the reality such an mean attack and tightness that is reached by NO other ENGL-Amp when the settings are dialed in correctly.Plus it has a upper midrange that lets you cut through a bandsituation as you would weald a sword that cuts through flesh and bones.As a lead guitarist I personally like the savage more.But the combination of both is massive.My bandmate is playing the Fireball and together we get a band-tone that wakes the dead.that is because both amplifies complement each other in certain frequencies.As I mentioned the savage has that ultra-tight aggression and upper midbite while the fireball has a more loose bottomend and more deeper mid frequencies.Savage is bit like a moddet 2203 with a bit Mark V saturation,fireball like a mix of a boosted dual rectifier in low end and that 5150 growl.The complements one and other perfectly.Both are great amplifiers.🤘
What about Engl SE Founders Edition?
I don’t played it but I know that the lead the first high gain-channel of the FE is the same as the Artist Edition in the high gain channel and the Artist Edition 100 is one of my main amplifiers.Its tight,crunchy,juicy and have that marshallesque top end.
I prefer the Fireball. You do have to dial it in a little more to brighten it up a touch. But the simplicity and cost cannot be beat. I do use a 10 band EQ in the loop on it.
Hell yeah brother. Keep it truuuuuuue! Let's collab
I have a dilemma!! Help!!!
I have a Fireball 25 and I love it. But do I want a new Savage or a Generator 120???
Anyone?
Both great amps, and I’m glad that I went with the Savage MKII 120. The lead channel on the Savage is just a tad more crisp, plus the MIDI capabilities made it a no brainer for me, as I don’t have to tap dance with my pedalboard. It also pairs very well with my Revv Generator 120.
Oooo!!! You’re the one to ask!! I’m looking at either the Savage 120 or the Generator 120. Can’t make my mind up. Help
@@Mike_HuntizWetI love both amps, but if I had to choose one over the other, the Generator 120 would be it. It’s only a few hundred more than the Savage 120, but it also has the Two Notes hardware included, which is great for low volume recording, or if you want to run the amp direct in a live situation. It has two distinctly different high gain channels instead of just one, while the Savage has two crunch/mid gain channels. Not that the high gain channel isn’t capable of having both great rhythm and lead tones, because it definitely can be done with the MIDI switchable voicings and dual presence and master volume controls. I just love how the purple and red channels on the Generator have very distinctive tones. I do like the clean channel on the Savage a little more than the one on the Generator, as it has a more “spanky” character to it, but the clean channel on the Generator is very good as well. It’s definitely warm enough to play jazz licks. The Generator also comes with a footswitch, while the ones that work with the Savage are sold separately. That would be a non-factor for me though, as I have a MIDI capable effects unit that controls all of my amp and effects switching for both amps.
@ Thanks man! 👍
I as well run MIDI for all my functions. I have a Fireball 25 so I am leaning more towards the Revv. Appreciate your feedback 👍
I have the Fireball with it, a 2x12 horizontal Engl cab and coupled with an mxr fullbore metal and, frankly, nothing better for navigating between death and brutal death metal.
Fireball is absolutely killer. After comparing these 2 I felt the Fireball was more aggressive and could basically do all the channels the Savage had so I sold it
Thanks for your videos. Both sound great, and I really like the features of the Savage. Also, did you mean to upload this video in 1990's quality? Lol
Ugh, I know man... the really grainy one is the go pro of the front of the 2 amps. The other main one was focused on the go pro so I looked fuzzy. One of the angles was good but yeah this one was not repairable in post and I didn't want to shoot it over 🤷♂️
@@DeathMetalDevin angles were good man. For whatever reason, the video uploaded in very low quality. Great video otherwise.
@@DeathMetalDevin also, capture these for us Cortex users please lol
I own the savage 120 mkII, I’m not sure if I can get along with it. The crunch channel doesn’t have enough gain, and the lead channel sounds too compressed for my liking. I tend to play my 5150 III 100w stealth in the crunch channel, with a boost it’s perfect.
Lead channel is def compressed sounding. I enjoy it knowing it's a Savage and that's what I'd be getting out of it. The Crunch 2 I think has tons of gain. Grant it I have to crank it but it sounds great. I wish I had the 120 to give that little extra push when I use it for practices with the band. Always wanted a stealth. I know it's a beast
Fireball all the way. It's cheaper, it's simpler, and still brutal af. 🤘🏼
That g damn that savage is sick
Wish I could afford an ENGL!!!!
Just put a 100 bucks a side each paycheck man. They are worth it. Check out that other video I did before this comparing the synergy engl Savage to the real one. Pretty damn close for alot less money
@@DeathMetalDevin i was gonna tell him the same thing... Check out the Synergy Savage! You can also get other amps for it later down the line, and they are more affordable.
Great comparison as I am STRUGGLING to choose between the two. I am a new player but I NEED to have good tone to keep me motivated to practice. Of course, I don't want to pay for the Savage if I dont NEED to. So as a beginner wanting that deep dirty metal sound, you think its a safe choice to buy the Fireball? I will match it with an ENGL 412XXL cab. The Savage is $1000 more!!!! Dang! Would you say it sounds $1000 better?
@BrianAz just a few things to consider. 1 - do you plan to play live with it? In a metal band? If so savage is morenmid forward and will cut through the mix better and easier. 2 - if not playing live maybe consider the fireball 25 watt. Huge tones from a small amp. 3. All ENGLs have that flavor, don't worry too much about if ones better than the other, find the features of the amp rather than tonal characteristics. 4 - if ur doing the IR route and no physical speaker check out the engl 530 preamp. Rivals both in tone for 500 used
@@DeathMetalDevin THANK you as you are one of the very few who will answer my questions! I feel like I will back down a little to the Fireball 100 instead of the Savage since I wont be playing anywhere but my home studio. I just play for my own fun so this should do me. I really want to hear the metal through a cab so I'm going to say, screw it, and get the big ridiculous over the top ENGL 412XXL and blow the windows out... just because. THANKS AGAIN!~
if you want a great tip use eq 440hz-420hz mid cut (play with the db cut and q) on the fireball in the effect loop and you get the best sound :) i do it with my engl streve morse too
Any noticeable volume difference with the Savage being 60 watts?
Def, when playing with my band I want that little bit more of a push so it doesn't muddy up with the power tubes when I use the Savage. But we play loud. The Fireball though, no problems
And don’t worry about some of the memes online about these amps “not cutting in a mix”. Some of these have to be dialled a distinct way, unlike the more classic high gain amps, when going against those other amps and speaker combinations in a live setting. With the Fireball, for example, don’t be hesitant about really pushing the treble and the presence when needed as they will also help the upper mids and sizzle stand out in the mix with plenty of punchy low end.
I have a fireball extreme aggression it’s a beast
I own a Savage 60. It as a great sound! But it's not really a great amp for lead tones. For leads I would go 5150 or Marshall. 🤘
Two of my favorite amps, but I bought the Fireball myself.
Good choice
Both the amps sounded brutal.Here the Savage felt better than the Fireball in my opinion.
Savage lead channel sounds like what the Fireball would be if you put a boost in front. Just...more chonk and refined.
You review the ENGL Savage Mk2 VS ENGL Fireball 100 but not the ENGL Fireball 2, makes no sense?
Wat? First of all I buy what I have. Second, there's no such thing as a fireball 2 unless you're talking about the 25 watt.... let me know when you post about a fireball 2
@@DeathMetalDevin No problem i see reviews on the Power Ball 2. right on TH-cam the 100-watt
@katana777888 thanks for your contribution to youtube
@@DeathMetalDevin Thanks for 4 UR reviews I understand you do what is available to you maybe I was wrong and was looking at a 25-watt full-sized head. It was just a question that all. Have a good one
@@katana777888 fair. No foul. Thanks for watching
Seems the savage is a bit brighter.
Hey Devin, great comparison 👍🏻
I also played them both and really can't decide which one I liked more 😅
You gotta try out the actual available Engl Rackstuff. The e530 Preamp is the perfect combination with the Savage tightness and the Fireball aggression. Paired with the matching e840 Poweramp (or FX-Loop Return into the FB100) this thing is insane. Only downside: no Noisegate
I made some Demos to the e530, check my Channel if you're interested.
Cheers from Germany
Gerd ✌🏻
When there are two amps which are so similar, the simpler is better, so Fireball.
@VanjaSpirin agreed, the fireball does sit in the lower frequency range and the Savage sits more on the mid frequency range. But man they are super close. As long as it has the ENGL flavor