Thanks for the feedback! We’re just starting out at this video review malarkey so any input is appreciated. OK I agree that line was slightly sensationalistic, however where we’re based (South Africa), I’ve never seen or even heard of someone taking their Evoque off the beaten path. It is a crying shame JLR is removing more and more 4x4 capability as standard and are as you saying making everything electronic, which is why we try bring across just how frustrating it is not being able to lock the diff manually. Also every time we get a Land Rover or Range Rover it will definitely head off-road as that’s what they’re meant to do! Yeah we’re not the most experienced 4x4 enthusiasts, however the hesitation came from the burning smells emanating from the vehicle when we kept our foot in it. In fact if anything we found the best technique was to brake going into an obstacle to fool the computer into thinking it needs maximum traction. It would be quite a tragedy if you had to fit aftermarket solutions to any Landy to make it a worthy off-road vehicle and with the Defender going the way of the dodo, Toyota must be smiling from ear to ear at the prospect…
+BizNews Motoring absolutely you should take them off road, it is after all LR's heritage, and sad indeed they are removing these and putting them as options grrr. There's already a tonne of reviews about how they do on road, so this is good. Keep at it
What I noticed here, vs other off road reviews is that in most cases, no time was given to the all wheel drive system to direct power. It seems that it is a bit slow, and you need to let the wheels spin for a few seconds, before it transfers power. In most cases here, a little slip, and the driver is taking their foot off the pedal, and it is deemed a failure. In one example here, the foot is kept on the gas, and after a few seconds it starts climbing again. I'm still convinced this is the right vehicle for my current needs. Had a RR Classic for 5 years. It would easily go anywhere, with no computers.
Electronic traction control works well when going x-axle. Bit of gas and the evoque will spoof brake to apply resistance and send power to the non spinning wheels. Not a defender but same wading depth as a defender and closer off roading ability than you may think.
In order to override the auto diff all you have to do is keep wheel spinning. Landrover teach this in their training courses. When you keep spinning the wheel if you get stuck then car will figure out what's going on and lock it automatically. Also you have a half meter wade depth. See the side grills above the wheels? Keep the water line under those, or to be conservative no higher than the wheel arches.
some good footage there and some good points about the waiting for the electronics to lock the spinning wheels. Couple of things in your video 1. "we can confirm we've done what no Evoque ever sold would do?" I know a few Evoque's including mine that goes off road, so please stop making these statements. All it does is make JLR think they can remove more 4x4 goodies from these cars because they'll never be used off roads. We need to demand the opposite and show them we do take these cars on adventures. 2. From the way you drove it through those bumps, you were like me at first when I wasn't used to Terrain Response, you hesitate and stop the throttle on every bump. I found, once you, as you said, have prepared for it, you need to keep your foot steady on the throttle and it will then sort out which wheel it needs to brake to get the car to move forward, and it does. It just takes time and places unnecessary stress on the brakes and tires, which is annoying. 3. Just to point out too, it's not the center diff lock that is actually hesitating as you pointed out 2:30 - it actually does a pretty good job, but the Terrain Response reaction to spinning wheels that is lagging on those cross axle bumps. Hence the point above in 2. I confirm what you said about being nice if we could override the electronics manually and simply just engage some sort of a rear diff lock, I have contacted and raised this to JLR a few times now, I hope it happens because as of now, even the big brother Disco is coming out with the rear elock as an OPTION!. But for now perhaps an aftermarket locker is all we can hope for. It's funny it so happens you mentioned the Jimny, my other car is a Jimny and with a lift and permanent rear locker so I can make some first hand comparisons. Anyways, thanks for the video, I enjoyed it.
Good points, but i think we can all agree, the Evoque is not really designed to be battered on a 4x4 route. Its more for housewives taking their kids to school.
Agreed, the Range Rover Evoque was one of our earlier 4x4 review videos so we were still experimenting around! Check out our latest ones and you'll see we've dropped the idea.
Can you advise what year EVOQUE this was? Pre 2014 Evoque with 6 Speed Auto boxes are generally Haldex IV AWD system. Whereas, 2014 onwards 9 Speed Auto boxes have a lower ratio 1st Gear and also GKN torque vectoring AWD system. I am keen to find out ability of the older Haldex AWD/6-speed models. Thanks!
Hi , please state , have you tried the Sand mode terrain setting while being on that sandly climb ? I know that there was little sand there , not so deep , and the setting is not meant to be used in there. But the sand mode setting feels like its' locking the central diff fifty-fifty , plus making some kind of even distribution of the torque to each of the wheels , making it 25% each . I know the Evoque does not have axle locks but seems like at least in the rear, the enhanced haldex is locking it pretty fine - in the sand setting, which is the most stressfull to the car. How that would work on the bumps like these uphill ?
Firstly, there are lelots of people that take their Evoques off road. And yes, here in South Africa! Secondly, if you know how to drive them off road, they're probably one if the most capable of all the softies . We did an off road shootout and this was proven. See here: www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php/272538-SOFTROADER-CHALLANGE-Duster-vs-Freelander-II-vs-Terios/page8
Inexperienced driver? Balance the momentum and the computer aid, u shud be fine with that kind of obstacle. Rather impressive for what its intended to do.
Your right about not knowing how to drive it off-road, thanks for your honesty. Cheers
Thanks for the feedback! We’re just starting out at this video review malarkey so any input is appreciated.
OK I agree that line was slightly sensationalistic, however where we’re based (South Africa), I’ve never seen or even heard of someone taking their Evoque off the beaten path. It is a crying shame JLR is removing more and more 4x4 capability as standard and are as you saying making everything electronic, which is why we try bring across just how frustrating it is not being able to lock the diff manually. Also every time we get a Land Rover or Range Rover it will definitely head off-road as that’s what they’re meant to do!
Yeah we’re not the most experienced 4x4 enthusiasts, however the hesitation came from the burning smells emanating from the vehicle when we kept our foot in it. In fact if anything we found the best technique was to brake going into an obstacle to fool the computer into thinking it needs maximum traction.
It would be quite a tragedy if you had to fit aftermarket solutions to any Landy to make it a worthy off-road vehicle and with the Defender going the way of the dodo, Toyota must be smiling from ear to ear at the prospect…
+BizNews Motoring absolutely you should take them off road, it is after all LR's heritage, and sad indeed they are removing these and putting them as options grrr. There's already a tonne of reviews about how they do on road, so this is good. Keep at it
BizNews Motoring ,
What I noticed here, vs other off road reviews is that in most cases, no time was given to the all wheel drive system to direct power. It seems that it is a bit slow, and you need to let the wheels spin for a few seconds, before it transfers power. In most cases here, a little slip, and the driver is taking their foot off the pedal, and it is deemed a failure. In one example here, the foot is kept on the gas, and after a few seconds it starts climbing again.
I'm still convinced this is the right vehicle for my current needs. Had a RR Classic for 5 years. It would easily go anywhere, with no computers.
Electronic traction control works well when going x-axle. Bit of gas and the evoque will spoof brake to apply resistance and send power to the non spinning wheels. Not a defender but same wading depth as a defender and closer off roading ability than you may think.
In order to override the auto diff all you have to do is keep wheel spinning. Landrover teach this in their training courses. When you keep spinning the wheel if you get stuck then car will figure out what's going on and lock it automatically. Also you have a half meter wade depth. See the side grills above the wheels? Keep the water line under those, or to be conservative no higher than the wheel arches.
some good footage there and some good points about the waiting for the electronics to lock the spinning wheels. Couple of things in your video
1. "we can confirm we've done what no Evoque ever sold would do?" I know a few Evoque's including mine that goes off road, so please stop making these statements. All it does is make JLR think they can remove more 4x4 goodies from these cars because they'll never be used off roads. We need to demand the opposite and show them we do take these cars on adventures.
2. From the way you drove it through those bumps, you were like me at first when I wasn't used to Terrain Response, you hesitate and stop the throttle on every bump. I found, once you, as you said, have prepared for it, you need to keep your foot steady on the throttle and it will then sort out which wheel it needs to brake to get the car to move forward, and it does. It just takes time and places unnecessary stress on the brakes and tires, which is annoying.
3. Just to point out too, it's not the center diff lock that is actually hesitating as you pointed out 2:30 - it actually does a pretty good job, but the Terrain Response reaction to spinning wheels that is lagging on those cross axle bumps. Hence the point above in 2.
I confirm what you said about being nice if we could override the electronics manually and simply just engage some sort of a rear diff lock, I have contacted and raised this to JLR a few times now, I hope it happens because as of now, even the big brother Disco is coming out with the rear elock as an OPTION!. But for now perhaps an aftermarket locker is all we can hope for. It's funny it so happens you mentioned the Jimny, my other car is a Jimny and with a lift and permanent rear locker so I can make some first hand comparisons.
Anyways, thanks for the video, I enjoyed it.
Good points, but i think we can all agree, the Evoque is not really designed to be battered on a 4x4 route. Its more for housewives taking their kids to school.
i'm sold on this car stunning!
The narration is mixed to low compared to the background music, making very hard to hear what is being said.
Love the video, although if I could suggest (particularly toward the end) making sure the commentary is noticeably louder than the background music
Agreed, the Range Rover Evoque was one of our earlier 4x4 review videos so we were still experimenting around! Check out our latest ones and you'll see we've dropped the idea.
Shut the music up let's here the commentary
Can you advise what year EVOQUE this was? Pre 2014 Evoque with 6 Speed Auto boxes are generally Haldex IV AWD system. Whereas, 2014 onwards 9 Speed Auto boxes have a lower ratio 1st Gear and also GKN torque vectoring AWD system. I am keen to find out ability of the older Haldex AWD/6-speed models. Thanks!
Hi , please state , have you tried the Sand mode terrain setting while being on that sandly climb ? I know that there was little sand there , not so deep , and the setting is not meant to be used in there. But the sand mode setting feels like its' locking the central diff fifty-fifty , plus making some kind of even distribution of the torque to each of the wheels , making it 25% each . I know the Evoque does not have axle locks but seems like at least in the rear, the enhanced haldex is locking it pretty fine - in the sand setting, which is the most stressfull to the car. How that would work on the bumps like these uphill ?
Just now i have a new rangrover 2018 its ammmmazing experiance for me &***
If I could hear what the guy is saying cut the fuckin music
Firstly, there are lelots of people that take their Evoques off road. And yes, here in South Africa!
Secondly, if you know how to drive them off road, they're probably one if the most capable of all the softies . We did an off road shootout and this was proven.
See here: www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php/272538-SOFTROADER-CHALLANGE-Duster-vs-Freelander-II-vs-Terios/page8
Was it a fortuner at 3:00 in the background?
+Lollipop yes, we had a Fortuner support vehicle while filming.
Inexperienced driver? Balance the momentum and the computer aid, u shud be fine with that kind of obstacle. Rather impressive for what its intended to do.
👍gass terus...
Give me a jeep sir
Give me a freelander 2 jeep sir i kindly request sir
Learn to put your foot into it!!!!
The EVOQUE is only an AWD car!! Not intended for offroad use. Keep it on the pavement where it belongs.
JK UNLIMITED RULES!! It’s actually not bad off road, these guys just don’t know how to drive it
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