Yeah, I had a Nokia Lumina 925 and it was fantastic apart from the lack of apps. Hope Microsoft continues developing the platform. I think every consumer can benefit from more competition.
Clous von I guess it depends on your personal preference. I know lots of people that hate Windows Phone with a passion. I, on the other hand, love the tiles.
I don't know why this video suddenly came in my recommendations 3 years later but damn windows mobile was one of the most innovative and good looking operating system's in existence! Really wish it picked up more steam back in the day.
vikram singh I miss mine, too. I miss so many things about Windows Phone. If only there would be a decent phone by Microsoft. Bring the Surface Phone already …
Qwertworks bringing in a high end phone with high end price isn't going to do shit until they sort out their platform stability issues and solve the app problem. Hardware is not enough at this point.
***** no, it is not. That was not my point. My point is, that there is currently no Windows Phone that appeals to me and I would really like to have one again. The App problem also is something that will take a long time to solve, but they can only do this with endurance. With Windows 10 they really got a lot of people interested again (especially developers and companies) but in the end they messed it up with sub-par devices and buggy software. The only thing that will ever get Windows Phone out of it's niche would be a consistent strategy and not continuing on a half-assed zig-zag-course ...
vikram singh Almost put my Lumia 1520 on eBay tonight, but I changed my mind. I love that phone! I keep it in case my Lumia 950XL gets destroyed or something.
People who complain about the app gap on Windows mobile have never really used windows mobile for more than 20 seconds. I was a hardcore android user and I was able to switch to Windows mobile with no issues in regards to lack of apps. I either found an alternative app on the store or I use the mobile site. Not a big deal Imo...
The main issue regarding the apps is the lateness in upkeep. But you are correct, that most app functions can be found either through Edge or a third party. And some 3rd party apps are better than the original.
while i wont deny that is an issue, i will say that it also shouldnt be considered as big of a con as phone reviewers make it out to be(i mean seriously telling people to not switch to this platform because instagram crashed, or there isnt an app that is on android) i feel reviewers tend to make mountains out of ant hills when it comes to little windows 10 bugs and it reminds me of when phone reviewers did the same thing to android when the iphone was basically the standard(android 2.0-android 4.2, after 4.4 android really started improving in terms of functionality) but the bugs windows mobile has are attributed to mainly 3rd party app devs and not so much the operating system unlike android back in the day
luigi90210 lol Apps play the most important role in any OS ..People buy smartphones to use tons of apps everyday.No one wants to fiddle for alternatives apps when the original and much stable is already on the android/iOS.Windows is very lazy to bring out interest to developers to port apps on windows phone.
Windows Phone gets a bad rep for lacking apps. But I've gotta tell ya, the most surprisingly thing from leaving my iPhone 6S/LG G5 combo for the Lumia 950XL (outside of finding that I'm in the quieter majority that got NONE of the stability issues MrMobile got) is just how many really good apps there are for the platform. While I keep about 300-ish on my phone, I've amassed about 700, and will cover a couple highlights. Spotify's always semeed braindead at distinguishing the tastes of someone who favors underground rap over mainstream (me liking Krizz Kaliko and Dizzy Wright absolutely does NOT translate to 'maybe I'll also like Young Thug' get that out of here Spotify), so I can't say I put too much time into it. Updates to Groove; however, have made it a powerhouse that's felt very satisfying to someone who thought he'd be lost without Google Play Music. Tubecast is, HANDS DOWN, the best mobile TH-cam client I've ever used. I immediately went to my G5 and 6S seeing if I could find this masterpiece within their ecosystem because it resolved all the annoyances I had with the official TH-cam and TH-cam Music clients while absorbing their features into one app. SlimSocial. It's easy to snatch at the low-hanging fruit of picking on the lazily ported-from-iOS Facebook app... but in all that great, warm circle-jerkin' it's easy to miss out on a lightweight, FAST, functional Facebook client that gets a lot right. KinoConsole has proven to be a really neat little implementation of playing steam games on a mobile device. I particularly like how seamlessly this works when paired with a Windows Phone that's got a Moga Pro or Moga Hero Pro on it. Client for Hangouts is an incredibly well-made client for Google Hangouts. Since I seem to be the only one in my immediate circle that can figure it out, I use Skype more often... but those lost without Google Hangouts should be more than satisfied with it. #Code really was a head turner for the continuum platform. Until this extremely impressive multi-language LIGHTWEIGHT ide brought multi-language features to the platform, people spoke as if continuum would only be good for the type of professional who's activities went no deeper than Office or sending out emails. Not to downplay the awesomeness of outputting those from a phone, but being able to dock my phone, create, sort and traverse a LinkedList array, COMPILE THE C++ RIGHT THERE and get console output without having to move to a desktop computer means that a software engineering prospect like myself could see some truly amazing things coming out of this (and with this hostile takeover of UWP within the W10 platform, it's no surprise that it's usable on W10 desktop too). Prism immediately made me stop caring that my bank app (US Bank) wasn't on Windows Mobile, and it made me uninstall AMEX. I'd previously been on the bank app complaint train merrily singing the same tune until this one app brought US Bank, my Synchrony Financial, PayPal, AMEX, Sweetwater and everything else the iPhone life convinced me I needed multiple apps for... under one roof. Yeah, this exists on iOS/Android too, but this is especially important on Windows Phone because it's a good way to resolve all the bank app complaints while also giving the ability to pay bills with one swipe. It won't scan a check, but since we aren't in the great depression my income's all direct deposit anyway. I can't believe I was using separate apps for all my banks on other phones. Photo Editor Photo | Polarr is another of those that I found I appreciated most because of the hostile takeover of the UWP platform. It's quite a bit more 'rich' than these other mobile photo editing suites I've found, and - again - very impressive to plug into the docking station and have your phone powering a desktop-style photo editor. That doesn't even break the mold of just how far UWP's coming. I've run a nicely successful campaign of showing off the impressive apps that most don't even know exist on Windows Phone on some communities... thinking about turning that into a TH-cam channel.
BEASTthisIndustry That's great and all... But at this point, I don't think it's solely the apps that keep people away. The masses just aren't interested anymore. WM is a mess of an OS.
I think it's moreso that Microsoft forgot how to fight the uphill battle they were fighting. They used to care about exposure... and at least attempt understanding that carrier exclusivity is the quickest route to failure. Then it had a stronghold on 10% of the market, with all the confidence showing it wasn't gonna continue growing. Then they started making stupid decisions, and that 10% became less than 1%... and then at the point in which UWP is developing strongly to a point in which they could easily use that to turn the whole situation around... they retrench. I've fallen for this platform. And have no problem reaching over my iPhone 6S and myriad of higher-rating Android phones to use my 950XL... but I can't help feeling like MS is missing out on some stupifyingly obvious ways to turn this around even with the 'app gap' at the tip of every thorn in WM's grapevine.
if only people would look deep enough like you did... I've been using Windows Phone since 2013 and I haven't had any apps that I need that's not on Windows Store.
Just read the other day interview with some Microsoft lead designer. Basically, they will continue to develop it. Theres no doubt that mobile platform is gonna continue to grow and to be even more important. Its gonna cost them a lot more money to restart the project and to go from the beginning than to just keep working on the mobile OS.
Even to this day I still absolutely love windows phone. It still manages to look so modern, functional, and elegant. The lack of apps is what promoted my relocation to the apple ecosystem Al those years ago. I am still on iOS, but man do I wish windows phone made it.
As a windows 10 mobile user myself I can say I'm personally very happy with the platform. The app ecosystem is a hell of a lot better than it used to be and on my Lumia 650 the OS is smooth and stable. For the record the Lumia 650 sports a snapdragon 212 SoC. Yes a 212 and you know what? Windows 10 mobile freaking glides around on it. I owned a moto g 2014 before hand and the Lumia 650 I'm using despite having a less powerful SoC still blows my old moto g out of the water on performance. Windows 10 mobile is looked over a lot but it isn't a pile of garbage, not by a long shot
As someone who got sick of general instability and fragmentation on droid, and the stoic, resistive to innovate nature of iPhone, I decided to give Windows Phone a shot and I've been shocked at just how many good apps I've found (and pleasantly surprised to find that not a single one of the bugs MrMobile got on his Lumia 950XL made it into mine). Though it's become colloquially Popular to talk about the lack of app count, I've had no problem amassing a library of 746 apps for everything from paying my bills to managing my home security, photo editing, video editing, social media, and every facet of my work life, college life and the times when I just wanna play a game... #Code even compiles my C right on my phone with console output, then transforms into a desktop IDE with the continuum dock since it's universal.
Sir Kurtley I've heard that factory resetting the device can work wonders when it comes to performance issues. Indeed I did it to mine once I bought it (I had played about with it for a good half hour before I did it) and it was certainly noticeable
Sir Kurtley I kind of shyed away from the 650 after playing with it in store and noticing it even had noticeable lag in simply accessing the action center. Beautiful phone, but since I'm not one of the Verge's people, I can't prioritize style over substance. I just can't.
BEASTthisIndustry Understandable. The performance has gotten significantly better due to software updates mind you. I notice no lag in opening the action centre now
App developers: We need more users to develop apps. WM Users: there are already great 3rd party apps that work better than the official ones. Average consumer: but it's not the official app and most of my brain dead social media apps are not available. It's really just a vicious cycle. I really wanted this OS to be in a comfortable 3rd. But I don't think anyone cares anymore. And why does this OS look like it was designed by 2 conflicting developers? lol. Great video as always! I think I'd watch this guy narrate paint drying.
The average consumers wanted a Facebook app from Facebook themselves. What they did was kill off MS' sleek app for Facebook's iOS app cooked by OSMeta to run on W10M.
Ima say it again. *Michael Fisher*. The best Mobile Tech reviewer on the PLANET. No questions asked, don't @ me. But you can @ this Mr. Fisher. Is it worth to get the regular idol 4?
It's covered a little bit in my $400 video. Short answer: yes, if you don't mind changing the launcher and you really don't need a good fingerprint scanner. But the OP3 and Moto Z Play are better.
There's a fingerprint with that? Hmm. I dunno if I could root with it as well...how's the camera and battery life to it? Decisions Decisions. Btw that Blue Verified look is awesome!
I am thankful that you went through the pain to bring us the truth of a phone that doesn't deserve our money. You covered much that would make the device appealing, but really supported your claims in the flaws that should keep us away from it. Well done sir.
oh wow. this is nice. wp should of released the 650 and then followed by a similar styled 650ish 950. I just love my 650 but man good to see more wp10 devices. thanks for sticking with wp Michael
I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't just killed their Mobile OS. They have their flagship software available on iOS and Android, they often push apps onto Android and iOS first.
A friend of mine recently suggested to me that it's very cheap for Microsoft just to keep Windows Mobile maintained, and they do so since it would be foolish to abandon mobile completely. Also, we should keep an eye on Continuum over the next few years as that's evidently going to be a part of the company's long-term play. Also: it's just cool that Windows 10 can run on so many different form factors.
Great review as always. I was wanting something to replace my HTC M8 with Windows but I just cant justify paying for an HP Elite now that I jumped back to android on the HTC 10. I may give this a look.
Just got one of these yesterday at the Microsoft store for $175. The employee who sold it to me still rocked a Lumia 950. We're riding it out until the end :')
Have you or will you do a review of the HP Elite X3? I have enjoyed your reviews, Michael since you were on pocketnow. I don't watch pocketnow reviews any longer since you left. Lol. Keep up the good work.
Will you do a review for the HP Elite X3? I am a huge W10M fan, but I think it's still going to be a few major updates before people look at it properly. Even after the creative update it will still need more to get us to the point where the general population wants the phones, but notice the app gap and kind of wait there. Then I bet we will see more developers developing on them and then people.
Currently rocking an Alcatel Idol 3 since December 2015. When I do switch phones again someday, I'll have to get used to non-left handed power/volume controls.
Thank for the review. Was hoping for a HP elite x3 review but this is OK for sure as far as the OS. I think WP is at its lowest point now. But it will not die. I think it on the slow rebound and path to be more mainstream again. Took them long enough. Some on the new features on WP 10 seem pretty damn amazing, if windows could only make them work like they can't seem to do. As you said "maybe tomorrow". I think theres is a lot in store for for the future for WP, I mean that gotta be the only reason its not going under. Company's must know that as well. And I really hope Microsoft gets its act together already. I'm still eyeing the HP elite x3. The thought of having a basic back up PC is really cool to me. I wish they could just make a high end surface phone that was as powerful as a mid range laptop, so you could even do some light gaming like hl1 or the original DOOM games from the 90s. And steam of cores even if you can't play 95 ℅ of the games on it. I'll just keep hoping. Thank for the review man, any word on the elite x3 review??
I think this OS will have a potential in the future specially you can use it as functioning pc os. Hope they will upgrade that future with better hardware.
I just bought this phone to be my backup when my lumia 950xl is needing repairs. I guess it really won't compare to the 950xl. Oh well. You seriously looked like wolverine when you were trying to get this phone to work for you with the audio/text problem. Thought you were going to slash the phone to bits lol. Well, thank you for this. Despite windows abandoning me with the mobile devices, I still love my windows mobile devices. This is coming from someone who started with android and had samsung galaxy phones. Hopefully, I won't regret my newest purchase. Hoping it is better than the S5 but slightly worse than the S8 (I own both).If not, I still have my 950xl (and if that fails there is always -shutter- iphone). Thanks again.
It sure is. I am currently using it right now. It is not as good as my 950xl, but it is a good phone. The Facebook app sucks and so does their messenger app. I love this phone though. The speakers are nice and it is slimmer than my 950. Overall it is a 8 out of 10 for me and I would buy another. Thanks for checking up
Switched over to windows phone about a year ago as a longtime iPhone user. There are definitely a lot more bugs but I've been using windows PCs for years so you can say i'm used to it, lol. Never had more than ~20 apps on my iPhone, so the app situation wasn't a big deal for me. As long as MS keeps pushing out updates and bug fixes, I'm more than happy to use my 950 for the foreseeable future!
are the problems you had with camera and fingerprint scanner problems with hardware or software. im considering dtek60 and want to know if ill have same issues.
I had a windows phone shortly. I loved the home screen, like he said everything at a glance. If they could improve the overall function of the os I would totally consider trying one again, I haven't seen anything that makes me think it's improved.
Good video review, agree with your views.. Just bought me a lumia 650 to try the OS once again... It's has come on loads since last time i used the OS, but it's just too buggy and I can't rely on the shortage of apps. Hope if does improve in the future
Just got one of these during T-Mobile's fire sale of them as they try to get them off inventory. Went from $470 to $288. Some would say I'm crazy for this, but I gave up an LG V20 for this phone, and I've loved every minute of it.
Had a lumia 930 and it was like one of the best phones I've ever used in my life. Man if windows phone had supported more apps I would've got the lumia 950
I just bought this in May 2020 in mint condition for 50 bucks on Swappa. I could never shake my fascination with Windows phone.The body is gorgeous, the speakers amazing and this is the best Amoled screen I have ever seen. Super sharp and colors punchy as hell. The downside? Pandora, Audible, Skype and the web browser are the only things I can consistently use outside of the office stuff. I love this phone, but, feel so bad that Windows phone never truly got to the promised land. Oh, and the former boom key has become a physical shutter button...progress!
I still use Windows phone and have an iPhone 6s that I rarely use, I use My Windows Phone as my daily driver. Yes, I wish we had more apps, but whatever, these stupid developers is holding this platform up. Just put them on there, update them and you will be surprised on how many people switch to Windows. Just saying.
I think you're overestimating the amount of users that will switch. At this point, most people are locked into their Apple or Google ecosystems. It just simply isn't worth the cost of development and upkeep to create apps for this platform. Many developers have already tried, and a lot of them just end up removing their apps after a while due to lack of downloads. Developers won't put money towards an app unless they know they'll get a return on their investment. Microsoft, unfortunately, severely dropped the ball under Steve Ballmer. He was by far the worse thing to ever happen to Microsoft.
Montpbm Crawford I'm not. Too many people have spent hundreds, if not thousands of dollars in either Google's or Apple's ecosystems. It's not financially viable for them to switch platforms at this point. Even if Windows Phone gets all the apps, people don't want to have to rebuy all the apps they already paid for. They don't want to rebuy accessories. They don't want to rebuy all their home automation products that only work with Google or Apple. They don't want to have to rebuy movies and tv shows they bought in Google Play or iTunes. Windows getting more apps won't change any of that.
I use the elite x3 and its the best phone I ever own. I couldn't agreed more with you this dam developers are just running a monopoly...but I do believe that windows is better than both iOS and android.. I know for a fact that red stone 3 will pack a bunch of new feature including better visuals with project Neo for both windows 10 and We
i had a lumia icon and then 640 xl. I miss windows phone some times. had some sort of strange charm to it. after a few diff android phones I ultimately landed on the LG stylo 2 plus. for the price, its incredible. haven't had any issues with it in the past few months I've owned it. size is similar to the 640 xl and the built in stylus is always nice.
please somebody help me! I just lost my nexus 6p! and I have found the 950xl at very low price! my question is will I regret it if i went to the windows os?
pbilk1 There is Google Play Music for iOS, but I don't think you can purchase new music through it, only access your current collection. Windows Phone unfortunately has nothing except third-party apps for Google Play Music.
![MrMobile [Michael Fisher]](http://yt3.ggpht.com/Bf8B_79jyHxP6CVnjV5WKws93l9Vxlk0d7aPmcBygTBDKzgsGrpazdJRFUrfg1sUNlo8YX8rji8=s48-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj)
Ill be honest with yall. If windows phone had more apps, i'd use it over Android or IOS anyday.
Same here!
Yeah, I had a Nokia Lumina 925 and it was fantastic apart from the lack of apps. Hope Microsoft continues developing the platform. I think every consumer can benefit from more competition.
Clous von I guess it depends on your personal preference. I know lots of people that hate Windows Phone with a passion. I, on the other hand, love the tiles.
You can also display wallpaper under the tiles, or on top of them.
MrMobile [Michael Fisher] Yes. Which is like, the coolest thing ever.
I don't know why this video suddenly came in my recommendations 3 years later but damn windows mobile was one of the most innovative and good looking operating system's in existence!
Really wish it picked up more steam back in the day.
04/2021 my recommendations :D
I still miss windows phone
Just came in my recommendations
in tears.....
this just reminds me of my lumia 1520...i really miss that phone
vikram singh I miss mine, too. I miss so many things about Windows Phone. If only there would be a decent phone by Microsoft. Bring the Surface Phone already …
Qwertworks bringing in a high end phone with high end price isn't going to do shit until they sort out their platform stability issues and solve the app problem. Hardware is not enough at this point.
vikram singh Like on my Samsung S7 like 😎
***** no, it is not. That was not my point. My point is, that there is currently no Windows Phone that appeals to me and I would really like to have one again.
The App problem also is something that will take a long time to solve, but they can only do this with endurance. With Windows 10 they really got a lot of people interested again (especially developers and companies) but in the end they messed it up with sub-par devices and buggy software. The only thing that will ever get Windows Phone out of it's niche would be a consistent strategy and not continuing on a half-assed zig-zag-course ...
vikram singh Almost put my Lumia 1520 on eBay tonight, but I changed my mind. I love that phone! I keep it in case my Lumia 950XL gets destroyed or something.
As a former Windows Mobile user, this video makes me sad.
youre not alone man.
As a current WP10 user, this makes me more sad (T_T).
Ranadeep Kundu, as a current windows phone user, I'm sad all the time
jiv32 as a current Windows user I couldn't be happier.
Windows mobile is sad
I recently got a Lumia 550 for around $75 on eBay as a backup phone. Holy crap the phone flies, even on a Snapdragon 210.
***** The plot thickens
is it on windows 8 or 10?
Maurice it's probably on windows me
Corbin Davenport Windows 10 mobile will always impress me with how smooth it is on low end hardware. You don't see android doing that
***** Windows Mobile 10
I'd love to see a MrMobile Studio tour!
Same here
Windows had so much potential. They just ignored the most important factor for mobile OS, a good windows store.
2017.. Is said to be the year for Windows Phones.. Srsly.. 2016 focused on PC..
People who complain about the app gap on Windows mobile have never really used windows mobile for more than 20 seconds.
I was a hardcore android user and I was able to switch to Windows mobile with no issues in regards to lack of apps. I either found an alternative app on the store or I use the mobile site. Not a big deal Imo...
The main issue regarding the apps is the lateness in upkeep. But you are correct, that most app functions can be found either through Edge or a third party. And some 3rd party apps are better than the original.
while i wont deny that is an issue, i will say that it also shouldnt be considered as big of a con as phone reviewers make it out to be(i mean seriously telling people to not switch to this platform because instagram crashed, or there isnt an app that is on android)
i feel reviewers tend to make mountains out of ant hills when it comes to little windows 10 bugs and it reminds me of when phone reviewers did the same thing to android when the iphone was basically the standard(android 2.0-android 4.2, after 4.4 android really started improving in terms of functionality) but the bugs windows mobile has are attributed to mainly 3rd party app devs and not so much the operating system unlike android back in the day
luigi90210 lol Apps play the most important role in any OS ..People buy smartphones to use tons of apps everyday.No one wants to fiddle for alternatives apps when the original and much stable is already on the android/iOS.Windows is very lazy to bring out interest to developers to port apps on windows phone.
Windows Phone gets a bad rep for lacking apps. But I've gotta tell ya, the most surprisingly thing from leaving my iPhone 6S/LG G5 combo for the Lumia 950XL (outside of finding that I'm in the quieter majority that got NONE of the stability issues MrMobile got) is just how many really good apps there are for the platform. While I keep about 300-ish on my phone, I've amassed about 700, and will cover a couple highlights.
Spotify's always semeed braindead at distinguishing the tastes of someone who favors underground rap over mainstream (me liking Krizz Kaliko and Dizzy Wright absolutely does NOT translate to 'maybe I'll also like Young Thug' get that out of here Spotify), so I can't say I put too much time into it. Updates to Groove; however, have made it a powerhouse that's felt very satisfying to someone who thought he'd be lost without Google Play Music.
Tubecast is, HANDS DOWN, the best mobile TH-cam client I've ever used. I immediately went to my G5 and 6S seeing if I could find this masterpiece within their ecosystem because it resolved all the annoyances I had with the official TH-cam and TH-cam Music clients while absorbing their features into one app.
SlimSocial. It's easy to snatch at the low-hanging fruit of picking on the lazily ported-from-iOS Facebook app... but in all that great, warm circle-jerkin' it's easy to miss out on a lightweight, FAST, functional Facebook client that gets a lot right.
KinoConsole has proven to be a really neat little implementation of playing steam games on a mobile device. I particularly like how seamlessly this works when paired with a Windows Phone that's got a Moga Pro or Moga Hero Pro on it.
Client for Hangouts is an incredibly well-made client for Google Hangouts. Since I seem to be the only one in my immediate circle that can figure it out, I use Skype more often... but those lost without Google Hangouts should be more than satisfied with it.
#Code really was a head turner for the continuum platform. Until this extremely impressive multi-language LIGHTWEIGHT ide brought multi-language features to the platform, people spoke as if continuum would only be good for the type of professional who's activities went no deeper than Office or sending out emails. Not to downplay the awesomeness of outputting those from a phone, but being able to dock my phone, create, sort and traverse a LinkedList array, COMPILE THE C++ RIGHT THERE and get console output without having to move to a desktop computer means that a software engineering prospect like myself could see some truly amazing things coming out of this (and with this hostile takeover of UWP within the W10 platform, it's no surprise that it's usable on W10 desktop too).
Prism immediately made me stop caring that my bank app (US Bank) wasn't on Windows Mobile, and it made me uninstall AMEX. I'd previously been on the bank app complaint train merrily singing the same tune until this one app brought US Bank, my Synchrony Financial, PayPal, AMEX, Sweetwater and everything else the iPhone life convinced me I needed multiple apps for... under one roof. Yeah, this exists on iOS/Android too, but this is especially important on Windows Phone because it's a good way to resolve all the bank app complaints while also giving the ability to pay bills with one swipe. It won't scan a check, but since we aren't in the great depression my income's all direct deposit anyway. I can't believe I was using separate apps for all my banks on other phones.
Photo Editor Photo | Polarr is another of those that I found I appreciated most because of the hostile takeover of the UWP platform. It's quite a bit more 'rich' than these other mobile photo editing suites I've found, and - again - very impressive to plug into the docking station and have your phone powering a desktop-style photo editor.
That doesn't even break the mold of just how far UWP's coming.
I've run a nicely successful campaign of showing off the impressive apps that most don't even know exist on Windows Phone on some communities... thinking about turning that into a TH-cam channel.
BEASTthisIndustry That's great and all... But at this point, I don't think it's solely the apps that keep people away. The masses just aren't interested anymore. WM is a mess of an OS.
I think it's moreso that Microsoft forgot how to fight the uphill battle they were fighting. They used to care about exposure... and at least attempt understanding that carrier exclusivity is the quickest route to failure. Then it had a stronghold on 10% of the market, with all the confidence showing it wasn't gonna continue growing. Then they started making stupid decisions, and that 10% became less than 1%... and then at the point in which UWP is developing strongly to a point in which they could easily use that to turn the whole situation around... they retrench.
I've fallen for this platform. And have no problem reaching over my iPhone 6S and myriad of higher-rating Android phones to use my 950XL... but I can't help feeling like MS is missing out on some stupifyingly obvious ways to turn this around even with the 'app gap' at the tip of every thorn in WM's grapevine.
if only people would look deep enough like you did...
I've been using Windows Phone since 2013 and I haven't had any apps that I need that's not on Windows Store.
About tubecast: it's good, unless you want things like 1080p and 60fps.
theSyd Hm? I regularly (and smoothly) watch 1080p/60fps videos through Tubecast
Wait, WIndows phone is still alive?!?!
Windows 10 Mobile is!
Aatir Zafar I know, right?! i was thinking the same thing!
My old note 3 is more stable then this.
Just read the other day interview with some Microsoft lead designer. Basically, they will continue to develop it. Theres no doubt that mobile platform is gonna continue to grow and to be even more important. Its gonna cost them a lot more money to restart the project and to go from the beginning than to just keep working on the mobile OS.
I am wper!
Even to this day I still absolutely love windows phone. It still manages to look so modern, functional, and elegant. The lack of apps is what promoted my relocation to the apple ecosystem Al those years ago. I am still on iOS, but man do I wish windows phone made it.
As a windows 10 mobile user myself I can say I'm personally very happy with the platform. The app ecosystem is a hell of a lot better than it used to be and on my Lumia 650 the OS is smooth and stable. For the record the Lumia 650 sports a snapdragon 212 SoC. Yes a 212 and you know what? Windows 10 mobile freaking glides around on it. I owned a moto g 2014 before hand and the Lumia 650 I'm using despite having a less powerful SoC still blows my old moto g out of the water on performance.
Windows 10 mobile is looked over a lot but it isn't a pile of garbage, not by a long shot
As someone who got sick of general instability and fragmentation on droid, and the stoic, resistive to innovate nature of iPhone, I decided to give Windows Phone a shot and I've been shocked at just how many good apps I've found (and pleasantly surprised to find that not a single one of the bugs MrMobile got on his Lumia 950XL made it into mine).
Though it's become colloquially Popular to talk about the lack of app count, I've had no problem amassing a library of 746 apps for everything from paying my bills to managing my home security, photo editing, video editing, social media, and every facet of my work life, college life and the times when I just wanna play a game... #Code even compiles my C right on my phone with console output, then transforms into a desktop IDE with the continuum dock since it's universal.
I love windows 10 mobile but the 650 is slow as hell. At least mine was.
Sir Kurtley I've heard that factory resetting the device can work wonders when it comes to performance issues. Indeed I did it to mine once I bought it (I had played about with it for a good half hour before I did it) and it was certainly noticeable
Sir Kurtley I kind of shyed away from the 650 after playing with it in store and noticing it even had noticeable lag in simply accessing the action center.
Beautiful phone, but since I'm not one of the Verge's people, I can't prioritize style over substance. I just can't.
BEASTthisIndustry Understandable. The performance has gotten significantly better due to software updates mind you. I notice no lag in opening the action centre now
And I was thinking about jumping to this phone. Thanks Michael for the insight. Back to my iPhone I go.
That's a nice touch with Billy Idol on the Idol.
The most unbiased and honest tech reviewer you are. Keep up the good work my friend !!
Thanks MrMobile for another great video! I love your transitions and your thoughtful input!
That home screen is so sick. I always thought the Windows OS was underrated.
App developers: We need more users to develop apps.
WM Users: there are already great 3rd party apps that work better than the official ones.
Average consumer: but it's not the official app and most of my brain dead social media apps are not available.
It's really just a vicious cycle. I really wanted this OS to be in a comfortable 3rd. But I don't think anyone cares anymore. And why does this OS look like it was designed by 2 conflicting developers? lol. Great video as always! I think I'd watch this guy narrate paint drying.
Dante Bradley brain dead, lol 😂
Dante Bradley sa
The average consumers wanted a Facebook app from Facebook themselves. What they did was kill off MS' sleek app for Facebook's iOS app cooked by OSMeta to run on W10M.
You need to grow a mustache for Movember. I see the beginnings of something great there
I appreciate the honest review bro
I love your reviews!! Keep it up Michael. Been watching you since PocketNow :)
MR Mobile, I'm still loving your style of reviews. thank you again. now hurry up with your surface book review pt 2!
i think i will stick with my $99 Cricket Wireless Alcatel IDOL4.
thanks for the great honest review👍
I don't know why this video came in my recommendations 6 years later, in late 2022. But I wish windows phone be revived someday.
Top 5 tech channels on TH-cam. Definitely.
dude u are best and most honest reviewer on youtube
Ima say it again. *Michael Fisher*. The best Mobile Tech reviewer on the PLANET. No questions asked, don't @ me.
But you can @ this Mr. Fisher. Is it worth to get the regular idol 4?
It's covered a little bit in my $400 video. Short answer: yes, if you don't mind changing the launcher and you really don't need a good fingerprint scanner. But the OP3 and Moto Z Play are better.
There's a fingerprint with that? Hmm. I dunno if I could root with it as well...how's the camera and battery life to it? Decisions Decisions.
Btw that Blue Verified look is awesome!
windows looks so futuristic than shitty looking android and iOS .
If it had an app support like iOS or Android I'd get a WP in a heartbeat.
what did u just say? futuristic than android? what a joke
Name of the joke is + imran haque
You can change it however you want with android m8
Rick Sande thats what i mean. u cant do shit with windows
Your videos are funny, entertaining and interesting! Keep it going, Michael.
The most Eloquent review of any windows phone yet... apart from your pocketnow days ofcourse!
are you sure the long press camera button only record XGA resolution??
my Lumia 730 record full HD like it should be
Glad to see you back Michael :)
I am thankful that you went through the pain to bring us the truth of a phone that doesn't deserve our money. You covered much that would make the device appealing, but really supported your claims in the flaws that should keep us away from it. Well done sir.
This reminds me of the Lumia 950xl review MrMobile did when he was with pocket now.
great review as always Mr Mobile.
The thing I love the most from Lumias are their screens. They take good use of the OLED screen because the OS has a dark mode.
oh wow. this is nice. wp should of released the 650 and then followed by a similar styled 650ish 950. I just love my 650 but man good to see more wp10 devices. thanks for sticking with wp Michael
I need it, "The ballad of Mr.Mobile" as my ringtone
Good review as always man!
I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't just killed their Mobile OS. They have their flagship software available on iOS and Android, they often push apps onto Android and iOS first.
A friend of mine recently suggested to me that it's very cheap for Microsoft just to keep Windows Mobile maintained, and they do so since it would be foolish to abandon mobile completely. Also, we should keep an eye on Continuum over the next few years as that's evidently going to be a part of the company's long-term play.
Also: it's just cool that Windows 10 can run on so many different form factors.
MrMobile [Michael Fisher] you mean your friend Daniel rubino
It was ingenious from Microsoft to basically have the same operating system on PC and mobile, too.
Haha, its cheap because the windows phone insiders are the free beta test team for windows 10 mobile? :P
Well, as of now, Microsoft has officially killed it, or atleast claimed that no more new Windows phones will be available.
More apps + better support + stable software = A GREAT LUMIA!
I love windows phone the best os ever
din rabbek Lmfao 😂 😂
Designed by Nokia.. It has to😏.. But then that damn Elop guy🙈
+Deathstroke 87 I won't laugh at that. Coming from Android, I can agree to +din rabbek.
It is so nice that finally a windows phone gets this many views and more on youtube, i wold love to see many more of these videos
Can u please do the review for the hp elite X3, if u happen to get ur hands on it.
Thanks for awesome reviews. Great info...And very Entertaining! LOL
Cool... thanks for doing the video. still waiting to hear it's time to buy a Windows phone. I loved my 920 , but the software still isn't there yet...
Great video Mike
well explain yet simple 👌
Thanks for the review. You convinced me to buy one.
Great review as always. I was wanting something to replace my HTC M8 with Windows but I just cant justify paying for an HP Elite now that I jumped back to android on the HTC 10. I may give this a look.
Billy Idol on an Idol. That's why I love this channel. Those small details are great
Just got one of these yesterday at the Microsoft store for $175. The employee who sold it to me still rocked a Lumia 950. We're riding it out until the end :')
Have you or will you do a review of the HP Elite X3? I have enjoyed your reviews, Michael since you were on pocketnow. I don't watch pocketnow reviews any longer since you left. Lol. Keep up the good work.
phatcowboy76 you are missing out. Juan really does in-depth camera and audio reviews that are worth checking out
I dont want windows 10 to be dead. please dont be dead
beautiful phone, did Samsung design it
Lame ass joke man. :/
Stop
Another awesome video!
hi michael, great wp10 video as usual. Any news on when you would do a relook on the 950 with the WP10 anniversary update?
thanks
Will you do a review for the HP Elite X3? I am a huge W10M fan, but I think it's still going to be a few major updates before people look at it properly. Even after the creative update it will still need more to get us to the point where the general population wants the phones, but notice the app gap and kind of wait there. Then I bet we will see more developers developing on them and then people.
Currently rocking an Alcatel Idol 3 since December 2015. When I do switch phones again someday, I'll have to get used to non-left handed power/volume controls.
What's that keyboard he has with the letters on the sides of the keys? (0:06)
I'm curious to know if there are more Blackberry devices out there or Windows phone 🤔
the background music ahhhh!
Glad someone noticed the new track!
I never noticed any background music.. cause of his amazing voice
Pretty much what I expected from this. Thanks for confirming my doubts.
Lumia 930 user.
I have a midterm exam in 5 hours and left my study because it's MRMOBILE NEW REVIEW ...Anyway, great review!
Micheal, please do an updated version on the Microsoft Lumia 950 XL! Since the anniversary update, the improvements are astonishing.
Thank for the review. Was hoping for a HP elite x3 review but this is OK for sure as far as the OS. I think WP is at its lowest point now. But it will not die. I think it on the slow rebound and path to be more mainstream again. Took them long enough. Some on the new features on WP 10 seem pretty damn amazing, if windows could only make them work like they can't seem to do. As you said "maybe tomorrow". I think theres is a lot in store for for the future for WP, I mean that gotta be the only reason its not going under. Company's must know that as well. And I really hope Microsoft gets its act together already. I'm still eyeing the HP elite x3. The thought of having a basic back up PC is really cool to me. I wish they could just make a high end surface phone that was as powerful as a mid range laptop, so you could even do some light gaming like hl1 or the original DOOM games from the 90s. And steam of cores even if you can't play 95 ℅ of the games on it. I'll just keep hoping. Thank for the review man, any word on the elite x3 review??
I think this OS will have a potential in the future specially you can use it as functioning pc os. Hope they will upgrade that future with better hardware.
Expression at 4:30 ! Priceless :D
Are you going to do the DTEK60 which is similar?
I'm a guy but I have to say you are one of the most attractive man that I've seen. And your content is dope.
lmao i think we are all inlove with him
hey mr.mobile i want ur office tour which pc you use n all n all....
Please review the BlackBerry Dtek60, your views would help me decide should i buy it or not.
I just bought this phone to be my backup when my lumia 950xl is needing repairs. I guess it really won't compare to the 950xl. Oh well. You seriously looked like wolverine when you were trying to get this phone to work for you with the audio/text problem. Thought you were going to slash the phone to bits lol. Well, thank you for this. Despite windows abandoning me with the mobile devices, I still love my windows mobile devices. This is coming from someone who started with android and had samsung galaxy phones. Hopefully, I won't regret my newest purchase. Hoping it is better than the S5 but slightly worse than the S8 (I own both).If not, I still have my 950xl (and if that fails there is always -shutter- iphone). Thanks again.
Bethany Wagner so. Is itua good phone?
It sure is. I am currently using it right now. It is not as good as my 950xl, but it is a good phone. The Facebook app sucks and so does their messenger app. I love this phone though. The speakers are nice and it is slimmer than my 950. Overall it is a 8 out of 10 for me and I would buy another. Thanks for checking up
How is whatsapp working and youtube?
Switched over to windows phone about a year ago as a longtime iPhone user. There are definitely a lot more bugs but I've been using windows PCs for years so you can say i'm used to it, lol. Never had more than ~20 apps on my iPhone, so the app situation wasn't a big deal for me. As long as MS keeps pushing out updates and bug fixes, I'm more than happy to use my 950 for the foreseeable future!
Dat drop had me 😩
are the problems you had with camera and fingerprint scanner problems with hardware or software. im considering dtek60 and want to know if ill have same issues.
I had a windows phone shortly. I loved the home screen, like he said everything at a glance. If they could improve the overall function of the os I would totally consider trying one again, I haven't seen anything that makes me think it's improved.
Good video review, agree with your views.. Just bought me a lumia 650 to try the OS once again... It's has come on loads since last time i used the OS, but it's just too buggy and I can't rely on the shortage of apps. Hope if does improve in the future
mark fern j
Just got one of these during T-Mobile's fire sale of them as they try to get them off inventory. Went from $470 to $288. Some would say I'm crazy for this, but I gave up an LG V20 for this phone, and I've loved every minute of it.
does whatsapp work well?
when will you be reviewing Hp elite x3
Good job Michael!
Had a lumia 930 and it was like one of the best phones I've ever used in my life. Man if windows phone had supported more apps I would've got the lumia 950
awesome video!!!
I just bought this in May 2020 in mint condition for 50 bucks on Swappa. I could never shake my fascination with Windows phone.The body is gorgeous, the speakers amazing and this is the best Amoled screen I have ever seen. Super sharp and colors punchy as hell. The downside? Pandora, Audible, Skype and the web browser are the only things I can consistently use outside of the office stuff. I love this phone, but, feel so bad that Windows phone never truly got to the promised land. Oh, and the former boom key has become a physical shutter button...progress!
Man, I love those windows phone tiles.
i hope u review the dtek60 also
Do you remember HTC's 8x
can we ever expect an elite x3 review from you? I feel like that phone is the best phone to judge windows 10 mobile from.
a lot of people own an lg g3 and I am interest to buy it..do a review for old flagships that still hold on
So they downgraded the screen resolution, but upgraded the processor?
I still use Windows phone and have an iPhone 6s that I rarely use, I use My Windows Phone as my daily driver. Yes, I wish we had more apps, but whatever, these stupid developers is holding this platform up. Just put them on there, update them and you will be surprised on how many people switch to Windows. Just saying.
I think you're overestimating the amount of users that will switch. At this point, most people are locked into their Apple or Google ecosystems. It just simply isn't worth the cost of development and upkeep to create apps for this platform. Many developers have already tried, and a lot of them just end up removing their apps after a while due to lack of downloads. Developers won't put money towards an app unless they know they'll get a return on their investment. Microsoft, unfortunately, severely dropped the ball under Steve Ballmer. He was by far the worse thing to ever happen to Microsoft.
No, I think you're underestimating the amount of people that would.
Montpbm Crawford
I'm not. Too many people have spent hundreds, if not thousands of dollars in either Google's or Apple's ecosystems. It's not financially viable for them to switch platforms at this point. Even if Windows Phone gets all the apps, people don't want to have to rebuy all the apps they already paid for. They don't want to rebuy accessories. They don't want to rebuy all their home automation products that only work with Google or Apple. They don't want to have to rebuy movies and tv shows they bought in Google Play or iTunes. Windows getting more apps won't change any of that.
I see what you're saying, but I know there are lots of people that would change.
I use the elite x3 and its the best phone I ever own. I couldn't agreed more with you this dam developers are just running a monopoly...but I do believe that windows is better than both iOS and android.. I know for a fact that red stone 3 will pack a bunch of new feature including better visuals with project Neo for both windows 10 and We
Background music throughout the last half of the video?
Woop, found it in the description
What about this as a backup phone to a Galaxy S7 edge and a first go at Windows Mobile?
Kevin Harris i have a zenfone 2 for my lgg5 as back up
Mr Mobile has some great taste in music 👍
i had a lumia icon and then 640 xl. I miss windows phone some times. had some sort of strange charm to it. after a few diff android phones I ultimately landed on the LG stylo 2 plus. for the price, its incredible. haven't had any issues with it in the past few months I've owned it. size is similar to the 640 xl and the built in stylus is always nice.
Think you could Re-DO this review after the updates?
please somebody help me! I just lost my nexus 6p! and I have found the 950xl at very low price! my question is will I regret it if i went to the windows os?
another great video. Just curious does Windows phone have the Google Play Music app in the store?
Ryan T there is a third party unofficial google play music app
No Google is very unfriendly towards windows when it comes to apps
That's what I thought. I could never go without Google Play Music, and 3rd party apps can be unreliable. Thank you.
Google is not nice to Windows and I don't believe their is Google Play Music for iOS.
pbilk1 There is Google Play Music for iOS, but I don't think you can purchase new music through it, only access your current collection. Windows Phone unfortunately has nothing except third-party apps for Google Play Music.
Do you think you can do another video on the cool or interesting tech you use in your daily life?
when apps crashes on wp, move them to device memory.
Can you review the moto x pure
but no dtek 60 review ?