@@COURTTV why does it matter what anyone thinks? All your over the top dramatic productions are unnecessary along with your so called "experts" who just sit there and fuel baseless theories and speculation. I think that the evidence will come out at the trial if it even gets to that point. He's not gonna be acquitted when his dumb ass not only recorded his crimes, but kept the images backed up on his cloud storage, and the authorities will charge Jenn when they have enough evidence to convict. If they don't, it's safe to assume that she's a horrible mother who made very bad choices, and is far from the sharpest tool in the shed, or cares more for herself that she was completely clueless to her child's abuse and suffering, but wasn't otherwise involved. You're supposedly staffed by attorneys, how do none of them know that there is a clock that starts ticking as soon as you take someone into custody and charge them with a crime, so there's a reason why Jenn is not in custody, and her silence means absolutely NOTHING. It's not a sign of guilt or innocence. Her kid is dead. So what does she need to be speaking publicly about? These days where every lay person thinks that they're the best detective in the world, and believe that the first amendment gives them the right to stalk, harass, speculate, and go after an individual's family, friends, and even employers because obviously they're guilty by association, I wouldn't be seen or heard from either. My mom was brutally murdered in 1987. I was only 10 years old at the time, but I can still remember the time surrounding her murder and the trial. Luckily in those days people were still kind. No way would I have wanted the entire internet following my every move to speculate on my tears or lack of, or combing through my social media to gain access to my family. As a media outlet you have a responsibility to present facts in these cases, and when you're tailored to a narrow subject you're going to have slow news days, and should have some sort of plan in place regarding your programming for those days. I don't know what her family knew or didn't know, all I know is that someone loved that child and is grieving her abuse and murder, and waiting for justice to be served. You're not helping.
@@CaroleEvans93436 Yes, he was the grandmother's life in partner I believe? They also found pictures on his phone of a dead and naked Tia, believed to have been taken the night of the murder. Yep, he was a sick one just like Sterns.
@@toribern816. I don’t get how a perverts mother will not only keep in contact with her sick and twisted son but appears to be supporting him!🤷♀️ I would never have any type of contact with my son after hearing about these crimes!
@@HeyitsGlenn??? Your slow asf she literally put her child in danger and abandoned her ; just because she’s her mom and madaline lived with her doesn’t excuse that she was abandoned and sacrificed
Every time I listen to Stephan talk he makes my skin crawl. When he said Madeline was happy to see him I'm pretty sure that she wasn't. I think her Mom knows more than she is letting on. RIP Madeline. 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
The mother seem so disgusted that jen might be involved and is not disgusted with her son being involved with proof none on jen yet . I do have a strong feeling tho she new what was going on.
He’s a vile monster, however she’s a protective mother. As sick as he is, his mother loves him regardless, that is a mother’s love. Unlike Jenn who was also a mother but didn’t love or protect her child, and her child was an innocent kid, yet Jenn failed to protect her child. Mothers always want to protect their children.
@@305Triciamaybe she should’ve been a better mother to him growing up and he may have turned out better…enabling your children is NOT the way to go if you want well adjusted adults. They should’ve stepped in way before this, with some sort of intervention, for his previous bad behaviour.
I have heard a rumor but you know rumors are, so take it with a grain of salt. Apparently SS is admitting guilt of molesting MS BUT he's trying to say that JS is equally to blame for having MS sleep in the same bed as him and therefore tempted him. Apparently SS's mom is trying to blame JS for that, too. Which yes, JS should've NEVER even suggested that SS sleep in the same bed as MS but that doesn't resolve him of any blame/guilt. I cannot wait until the trial to hear everything. Those two (SS and JS) are whacked, evidentially so is SS's mother!
Agreed 💯. My mother enabled my younger brother's behaviors and never monitored him when he was living in her home. When my brother was 20, he was going to Pokemon card game tournaments and spending time with young kids. He eventually started inviting a 13yr old kid to my mother's home at night. His behavior escalated and he sexually assaulted the 13yr old and went to prison. I cut ties with my brother because his behavior is absolutely disgusting and unacceptable. My own mother got pissed off because I refused to visit my brother in prison, I refused to buy things for my brother and send them to him in prison, and I absolutely refused to allow my child near him. My mother, the woman who allowed me to be sexually molested and almost raped by my stepfather as a young teen, told me I was being selfish. I am a survivor of sexual molestation and abuse so it's obvious that I would not want to visit a child predator in prison. My mother was actually putting $200 into my brother's commissary every month. In my mind, 10 years wasn't enough and he was never really punished for his crime.
I think she started to suspect Stephen was involved in some way, whether she knew about the abuse is still a mystery but I think she was starting to suspect his involvement, maybe him taking her car in the early hrs was the thing that made her suspicious… maybe she suspected an accident happened and was trying to protect him but it’s also possible she knew everything. I don’t want to make assumptions but they haven’t charged her for anything yet and that’s freakin weird.
He's most likely been insidiously gaslighted her into believing what he wanted. Twisting the poor girls actions into pouty bratty selfishness & manipulations. He covered himself with incredible devious precision.
Yep it’s true, no way Jen didn’t know. Jen also instigated the abuse by giving her daughter to Stern and ushering them off to share a bed alone, a plethora of times. She is just as much to blame in this. It also seems way too obvious in her face, she knew Maddy wasn’t coming back when they released that “plea” for her safe return. She knew, and her being so quiet and not screaming from the rooftops says a lot too. And the most she has said have been lies that she sloppily tries to hide and patch up.
IMO I think the "mom" knew but didn't care. I think Madeline lost her life standing up for herself because she had enough. Such a disgusting and heartbreaking life that poor child had to live through! Charge the "mother" already!!!! She allowed her child to sleep with her "boyfriend"!!!!
@ThePathOfLeastResistanc Against the "mother" maybe besides her confession of sending her daughter to sleep in the same room with her boyfriend. I'm sure more will come out in the investigation. But what more evidence is needed?
I think she hasn’t been charged yet because she would be the person that may know what has happened to Madeline. If she was involved they would cut some kind of deal with her to testify against Stephan.
The videos and pictures on his phone do not lie, and from what is being said, it shows him abusing Madeline whether the mom knew about it or not his family should absolutely be disgusted by his involvement.
Right, she acts like the mom knowing what was going on somehow absolves her son of the abuse and vile actions he committed upon a child. Like, lady, you are sick to even try and pretend your son isn't the most disgusting person to have done such a thing. The fact she is putting the blame on someone else is just sick and shows how he ended up being the person he is.
If JENN SOTO would have at least ONCE looked through his phone, she would have seen the videos and pictures....VERY SUSPICIOUS to me...I THINK SHE DID.
She doesn't know anything because there's nothing to know. You all can not believe anything these people say. We know everything he's said is a LIE. What his enabling mom says, is a LIE.
@@Dee-ny6uo I’m thinking she’s just laughing at all of this because she left her man to do all of her dirty work while she just sat back and acted like nothing happened
It irks me that mom didn’t take the day off for her only child’s THIRTEENTH BIRTHDAY. That’s a milestone and happens the same day every year. That day every year should be requested off on day one of employment. Mom knew and mom purposefully tried to distance herself from the disgusting predatory relationship she encouraged
i’m glad you are commenting on that aspect. i read in the comments recently that jenn was wearing maddies clothes in the area they claimed she (maddie) was dropped off in. suggesting she hoped to pass off as maddy to nearby cams. with that being said…wouldn’t she request the night off of work/call-in/use vacation to celebrate her daughter becoming a teen (13, i believe-pray i’m not wrong out of respect)? it just seems super premeditated?? i can’t sit with this thought alone. does it suggest premeditation to you? we all can agree jen knew…but when did the knowing start/stop? rest in God’s embrace, angel. 🤍🕊️🤍🕊️
@@LKitsyK I could see from day one she did care about her daughter at all and when she answered the phone Oh Hi principal Im ok how are you..I was screaming at the phone YOUR ONLY DAUGHTER IS MISSING AND YOUR ACTING LIKE YOU LOST A BIKE wonder what the principal thought.And some people say when she said that it you could see that pervert take a deep breath of relief It tells me it was premeditated .
Yeah 13 big milestone my parents gave me a big party 13 16 and 18 what parent doesn't do that for the child. her making sure she didn't take off made sure she works shows how much she loves her daughter. Witch she dident from all the mean things I heard she would say to her smh damnnn
IMO, if Jenn had no knowledge of what was going on, (which I doubt,) I would think she would publicly condemn him. We have yet to see her do that. Most parents would be enraged. I do believe Jenn knew about, or in the very least suspected the abuse.
Well its been proven Brian Laundries parents knew Gabby was dead and they publicly defended their son for weeks and weeks. Parents do weird things when they are in denial.
@@toribern816i disagree. saying she trusted him takes away awareness of what was happening. this woman was old enough, aware enough, etc of what happens in decades past, when you send a teen to bed with a grown man. absolutely, no way.
💯 That sounds like child endangerment to me, but I'm not a lawyer. Jenn was so selfish that she prioritized getting a good night of sleep over her only daughter's safety. Jenn literally served her daughter up to the predator. Jenn should be charged with something.
For me one thing is very clear. There's no loving, concerning mother in this world who's sending her teenage daughter to bed with an adult male who's not even her biological father. End of story. Poor Maddie. We are parents, we should shield and love our children, this is our job and our responsibility. Jenn should be charged for not doing her duties as a mother at least. There should be a law like that!!!
I don’t think Jenn Soto knew SS killed Maddie, however I do believe she knew he was assaulting her. At the end of the day, she was so negligent in protecting her daughter. I’m not understanding why she hasn’t been arrested. Ppl have been arrested for less!
Im guessing shes cooperating with the police for immunity. They dont want her getting hostile with them. As long as they dont arrest her, she will probably continue talking to them
Hi Vinnie: During tonight' program, you missed one important event. Sterns went back to the crime scene 2 nights back-to-back at 3 a.m. The first night he took Jen's car. The second night he took his dad's car. The route and destination for both nights were the same. It was the crime scene. Also, he made 5 more trips to the dumpster in addition to the initial 2 trips (when he dumped the backpack, laptop, one shoe and his tire). We are not told the items that he dumped in those 5 times.
@@fluffy5534 Hi fluffy, I have a question for you. I’m wondering if it has been disclosed that it was Stern driving Soto’s car? Have the police confirmed who was driving her car at 3am? Please let me know so I can read/watch who was the driver at that time. Thank you
How is a mother who literally stated she sent her daughter to bed with her boyfriend is not being arrested or investigated in a child sexual abuse case.....what is happening......
So while SS is doing all of this running around, also using Jenn’s car, where is she by the way? What is she doing during all of that? Is she suspicious that SS is running around like mad on the same afternoon, evening, and early morning that her daughter is also missing? She’s not even a little suspicious of him? Also, she’s not pounding the pavement with the rest of her family? It’s all so strange on her part.
I think that from "go", that night's/morning's attempt at abuse, she rebelled against because Madeline saw it as her independence day. That poor baby.💔
Jen Soto was a participant. Common sense. Imo. Been going on since Maddie was 8? There was a tripod in the bedroom, says to me JS not only knew but was a participant. 8 feel so sick that LE will need to look at all 1700+ pics and vids to see JS in or heard on them. She absolutely was a participant and had so many different men in and out of their lives. No one is THAT blind.
There's groups on social media covering the case and one who is well regarded said the moms family knew about the abuse and that Jenn turned a blind eye and that they gave her ultimatums to get rid of him or they would tell. Hence their attitudes in the bwc videos of not comforting jenn or sterns as they were furious with him being back around.
@@danidan9917 whether Jen stayed with him or not why would the family not call the police and report him if they knew so it wouldn't happen to Madeleine or any other child again instead of letting it slide?
I think its really dumb to release these emails. They will now cease communications and we could have gained so much more insight had they continued to write each other. Silly on behalf of the DA who released them.
Why did the mother tell the police and the media “we took her to school”….it was like she was talking responsibility with that sentence alone? This is disturbing. Prayers for this child to Rest In Peace; Justice to be served against anyone involved + for the innocent family + friends who have been negatively impacted by this horrific event .
Gray Hughes once read out a sealed affadvit detailing the sexual abuse of a child to earn cash on his live stream. He's the last person to engage with over a case like this
I can’t believe his mom. Even if Madeline was not murdered, he should still be in prison for the stuff that was found on his phone. I hope to God that her mom didn’t know what was going on and just let it happen.
There was an interview with one of Steven Stern’s friends where he said how messed up his mom and dad were while he was growing up! So the fact that the mom is trying to be Mrs. June Cleaver please
His mother is eluding too, they knew about he was sexually assaulting Maddy? What are you saying Vinnie? My mind is boggling. My heart breaks for Maddy ❤
Listening to Jen Sotos interview, she said Madeleine told them she had a crush on someone at school. Could this have ignited jealousy in Sterns. She was his toy. Im damn sure he wouldnt have liked it
I have wondered if he got rid of her because she was interested in boys and he was worried that if she got close to a boy that she liked she would tell about the abuse. If she got a young boyfriend how would she explain that she's not a virgin. 😢
To say “disgusted she’s free and you’re not” is crazy!! Should have been “disgusted she’s not in jail like you”. Jen Soto is vile, Sterns mother is vile and Sterns himself is beyond vile!! Hearing him describe her before they found her and hearing him say “it doesn’t feel the same without her here” is beyond gross after knowing what he did.
This case breaks my heart❤Vinnie, I love how passionate you are about getting justice for Madeline… you’ve been a big brother to her from the beginning. It makes me sick to think that her mother was aware of what was going on.. she can’t be that ignorant..
If Stefan's family all know, shouldn't they be charged? As a mother, I could not and would not support my son. As for Jenn, she stated to the police (we dropped her off at school). She is standing by her child's murderer. I believe she is equally guilty. Who waits until 8 p.m. to report their child as missing?
her birth father could gotten her away from that life. he didn't give a damn. hekk, he hadn't even seen her since October. no decent human could or would go that long. EVERYONE failed this child.
So many of us women see ourselves in little Maddie.. So many of us have also experienced assault as children---most of us victimized by someone who should have loved and protected us the most.
"This is not all your fault. - Mom." REALLY?!? Really this is nothing more than heresay. Mom is of course going to be slanted towards her beloved son. Pathetic.
@@Kenneth-nVA EXACTLY what I thought. Her emotions do not seem genuine. She sounds like Chris Watts when he was making public statements and pleas on the news. Idk the whole thing is so suspicious
Can you please explain to me what Gray did? I don’t know who he is but also don’t want to watch his videos if I come across them and he’s not a good person.
What if Jenn caught them together and she did something to Maddie, then SS helped cover it up? There are still so many questions...His mother sounds like Cindy Watts and Laundrie. Their sweet little boys can do no wrong. WTH?
@@Janadu I'm glad I'm not the only one who has thought this. It's my feeling too. It's just horrible. I think about my two girls and how lucky I feel to know that they grew up without having to endure anything like this.
IMO Jen is guilty, of what I’m not sure. She’s lied a lot. She said she saw Maddie that morning, knew exactly what she was wearing, but then said that she actually didn’t see her. I think that when Maddie came home from her party, her and her mom had a fight (Maddie’s friend said Maddie was mad because she didn’t get any money for her Birthday). Jen said she was going to kick Maddie out the second she turned 18, Maddie got D’s and F’s and her teachers said Jen never seemed to care, never went to back to school nights-nothing. I think Jen killed her. That’s why she separated herself and said she slept on the couch, her and Stephen made a plan that night, he took her ALONE to drop her body off. But, we’ll see what comes out!
As a mother, I cannot imagine making a half-assed plea for my daughter’s return and then not tell her I love her. I hope you’re safe, I hope you’re not hurt? All well and good but no tears, no I love you…. I would be groveling and making sure my daughter knew how much I loved and missed her. That’s how I immediately knew Jen was guilty.
Every time I hear him speak, all I can think of is what he did to an innocent little girl. He robbed her of her innocence and life, may god have mercy on him, because god knows I can’t and won’t.
they did investigate her and feel there are no charges at this point. I definitely feel that Jen needs to be charged. She lied to police, covered for him, and sent Maddie to sleep with this man. I cannot imagine what else Jen has done. Its very sad!
She is more than covering for SS. She used the GoFundMe money to hire a lawyer for herself. JEN SOTO DID NOT ATTEND MADDIES FUNERAL. It all adds up to me. Shady shady soulless woman.
In regards to all the photos he is being charged with...do they have a time of day the incidents took place. IF SO...Do the times of the incidents match with Jens work schedule?Wouldnt that help with knowing how much she knew what he was doing to Madeline?
I also wonder about the grandmother. Did she as a close family member NEVER suspect anything odd ?? So many people turned a blind eye, even the school counselor. Rest in peace and freedom dear Maddie ✝️ 🙏 💛
Can’t believe his mother is ignoring all the SA!! clearly the family doesn’t see anything wrong with it. The mother knows that the emails are monitored, having said that I think the mother needs to be charged too for not protecting her child. Ignore the emails from a woman who condones her SA ing son
I am really disappointed in court tv and vinnie for having this grey Hugh’s guy on, one listen to one of his lives and he tells you all you need to know about the type of person this man. He is a raging narcissist speaks horrible to the people that call. Please stop having g this man on, there are other really good TH-camrs with a much better personality.
@@MDC8915 yes his lives are horrible he just begs for money and talks down to callers. Who even does “call in” type radio stuff anymore anyway? He’s still in 1990. 😂
I agree! He’s a know it all & I tried watching a few episodes of his but couldn’t get through either of them! He’s a complete a$$ to anyone that offers their opinion & calls them out saying they’re idiots, etc. I know he donates money but I cannot stand watching people ask for money over & over or they constantly have their mods or they themselves post about donating to the channel!
Is this true? I watched a few videos with interviews in this case and he seemed okay. Maybe I'm missing something. Tbf I have never watched any of his lives.
People keep saying her mother failed her, yes her mother did and her mother also is the person that killed her. She offered that girl to him and he starting liking have giving all his attention to her and that mother mot jealous. She was jealous of Maddy, but he is who disposed of the body. Maddy's own friend said her and him would talk and text all time, and she never gave the impression that Maddy was afraid of him.....
You literally took the words right out of my mouth!! Why is this bullshit artist and all around chump still being showcased on here??? Come on Vinnie!!
#CourtTV - What do YOU think?
This case reminds me of Tia Sharp's murder, here in the UK but, it was her step-grandfather that was the perpetrator
@COURTTV who held the phone
I think the mother is involved
@@COURTTV why does it matter what anyone thinks? All your over the top dramatic productions are unnecessary along with your so called "experts" who just sit there and fuel baseless theories and speculation. I think that the evidence will come out at the trial if it even gets to that point. He's not gonna be acquitted when his dumb ass not only recorded his crimes, but kept the images backed up on his cloud storage, and the authorities will charge Jenn when they have enough evidence to convict. If they don't, it's safe to assume that she's a horrible mother who made very bad choices, and is far from the sharpest tool in the shed, or cares more for herself that she was completely clueless to her child's abuse and suffering, but wasn't otherwise involved. You're supposedly staffed by attorneys, how do none of them know that there is a clock that starts ticking as soon as you take someone into custody and charge them with a crime, so there's a reason why Jenn is not in custody, and her silence means absolutely NOTHING. It's not a sign of guilt or innocence. Her kid is dead. So what does she need to be speaking publicly about? These days where every lay person thinks that they're the best detective in the world, and believe that the first amendment gives them the right to stalk, harass, speculate, and go after an individual's family, friends, and even employers because obviously they're guilty by association, I wouldn't be seen or heard from either. My mom was brutally murdered in 1987. I was only 10 years old at the time, but I can still remember the time surrounding her murder and the trial. Luckily in those days people were still kind. No way would I have wanted the entire internet following my every move to speculate on my tears or lack of, or combing through my social media to gain access to my family. As a media outlet you have a responsibility to present facts in these cases, and when you're tailored to a narrow subject you're going to have slow news days, and should have some sort of plan in place regarding your programming for those days. I don't know what her family knew or didn't know, all I know is that someone loved that child and is grieving her abuse and murder, and waiting for justice to be served. You're not helping.
@@CaroleEvans93436 Yes, he was the grandmother's life in partner I believe?
They also found pictures on his phone of a dead and naked Tia, believed to have been taken the night of the murder.
Yep, he was a sick one just like Sterns.
As a parent, I still don't understand why you throw a birthday party for your kid on a day you have to work?
premeditated…
It was at Jens mother's home so...I assume the grandmother threw the party
The mother is on disability. If she's working..it can only be 10 hrs. No excuse to miss your daughter's birthday..unless you don't gaf.
13th birthday and all!
And her 13th birthday too
How can his parents feel anything but shame, disgust, and embarrassment towards him.
Right? Exactly what I was thinking. She has a lot of balls to even say ANYTHING about Jenn.
Agreed
They sound like they treat him like he is innocent and entitled. 🤮
@@toribern816. I don’t get how a perverts mother will not only keep in contact with her sick and twisted son but appears to be supporting him!🤷♀️ I would never have any type of contact with my son after hearing about these crimes!
@@pamcollins1651 yeah I wouldn’t either. The proof is right there. There’s no hiding
Madeline's mother failed to protect her daughter. She needs to be charged also.
@@joycampi7233 she was filming all of this crap she was a deadbeat and her and Stearns we're making money off of the 🌑 web
Not only did she fail to protect Madeline, she enabled this. She should be held accountable for that.
THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS BUT OK
@@HeyitsGlenn??? Your slow asf she literally put her child in danger and abandoned her ; just because she’s her mom and madaline lived with her doesn’t excuse that she was abandoned and sacrificed
@@HeyitsGlennyes it is
Wow Stephen’s mother sounds like a sociopath…..
Exactly what I thought
Right?! When first read, I thought it was for show...those pics and stuff they found in his possession of Madeline doesn't lie....
Like mother like son.
This is a large part of Stern’s problem…an enabling mother. There’s no sympathy or empathy for little Madeline 💔
She reminds me of Cindy Watts, and the way she and her husband defended Chris after he admitted to murdering his whole family
This case is so disgusting and disturbing.
just gets worse as things continue to come out.
@@desiesii Unfortunately. That poor girl!
It is but you know this sick chit is not so uncommon, I fear
And think it happens all the time he just got caught
Every time I listen to Stephan talk he makes my skin crawl. When he said Madeline was happy to see him I'm pretty sure that she wasn't. I think her Mom knows more than she is letting on. RIP Madeline. 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
For real!! His face and his voice makes my skin crawl! To think of the things he did to that poor girl makes me physically ill!
He’s soooo whinyyyy
@kimvictoria9936 His voice is like nails on a chalkboard. Just like JP Miller’s.
I also hate his face.
His whiny victim voice is repulsive.
How can a mother still speak to their son after having all that stuff found on his phone?
And Jenn is just too weird. What a horrible mother.
Think of Chris Watts, Scott Peterson and Ted Bundy’s mother standing by their sons.
The mother seem so disgusted that jen might be involved and is not disgusted with her son being involved with proof none on jen yet . I do have a strong feeling tho she new what was going on.
He’s a vile monster, however she’s a protective mother. As sick as he is, his mother loves him regardless, that is a mother’s love. Unlike Jenn who was also a mother but didn’t love or protect her child, and her child was an innocent kid, yet Jenn failed to protect her child. Mothers always want to protect their children.
@@305Triciamaybe she should’ve been a better mother to him growing up and he may have turned out better…enabling your children is NOT the way to go if you want well adjusted adults. They should’ve stepped in way before this, with some sort of intervention, for his previous bad behaviour.
A lot of mothers love their children unconditionally. It’s not that uncommon
She knows exactly what her son was, and did. Yet SS’s mother put blindfold on and blame other people for her failure as a mother. Rising Cain.
Agreed!
With a capital F yea she's still treating him like he's 2.
Agree. She said you’re not the only one to blame. Well, that is deflecting and not holding him accountable for his actions. Shame!
I have heard a rumor but you know rumors are, so take it with a grain of salt. Apparently SS is admitting guilt of molesting MS BUT he's trying to say that JS is equally to blame for having MS sleep in the same bed as him and therefore tempted him. Apparently SS's mom is trying to blame JS for that, too. Which yes, JS should've NEVER even suggested that SS sleep in the same bed as MS but that doesn't resolve him of any blame/guilt.
I cannot wait until the trial to hear everything. Those two (SS and JS) are whacked, evidentially so is SS's mother!
Agreed 💯. My mother enabled my younger brother's behaviors and never monitored him when he was living in her home. When my brother was 20, he was going to Pokemon card game tournaments and spending time with young kids. He eventually started inviting a 13yr old kid to my mother's home at night. His behavior escalated and he sexually assaulted the 13yr old and went to prison.
I cut ties with my brother because his behavior is absolutely disgusting and unacceptable. My own mother got pissed off because I refused to visit my brother in prison, I refused to buy things for my brother and send them to him in prison, and I absolutely refused to allow my child near him. My mother, the woman who allowed me to be sexually molested and almost raped by my stepfather as a young teen, told me I was being selfish. I am a survivor of sexual molestation and abuse so it's obvious that I would not want to visit a child predator in prison.
My mother was actually putting $200 into my brother's commissary every month. In my mind, 10 years wasn't enough and he was never really punished for his crime.
So they just gonna ignore the fact they found disgusting abuse pictures ON HIS PHONE? Absolutely insane
The mother denied that was Maddie in the photos on his phone!
@@Juke582 did you see the photos?
@@Juke582 who does she thinks the pictures are of?!! Even if it's not Madeleine, there's child s*x abuse pictures!!
@@Juke582 where did you hear that? Did I miss them say that? Ugh. That’s crazy
I hope they looked at Jenn’s phone too.
Sounds like his parents and the Laundrie parents have lots in common.
They might be neighbors. Both are in Northport. 😮
@@ZoeBay-vn1hc wonder what’s in the water there…
Sounds like Chris Watts’ mother as well.
Right?! My God, they are despicable!
proudfoot’s, too.
Jen Soto never shed a tear when she even tries to act sad about her own daughter “missing“
I think she started to suspect Stephen was involved in some way, whether she knew about the abuse is still a mystery but I think she was starting to suspect his involvement, maybe him taking her car in the early hrs was the thing that made her suspicious… maybe she suspected an accident happened and was trying to protect him but it’s also possible she knew everything. I don’t want to make assumptions but they haven’t charged her for anything yet and that’s freakin weird.
She never had an emotional connection with her daughter
He's most likely been insidiously gaslighted her into believing what he wanted. Twisting the poor girls actions into pouty bratty selfishness & manipulations. He covered himself with incredible devious precision.
@@GillaMom8071 shes a grown women she knew better stop defended the coward
Because Jennifer was there and sent Satan to Madeline. Maybe she was the one with the camera.
Yep it’s true, no way Jen didn’t know. Jen also instigated the abuse by giving her daughter to Stern and ushering them off to share a bed alone, a plethora of times. She is just as much to blame in this. It also seems way too obvious in her face, she knew Maddy wasn’t coming back when they released that “plea” for her safe return. She knew, and her being so quiet and not screaming from the rooftops says a lot too. And the most she has said have been lies that she sloppily tries to hide and patch up.
No kidding! I can’t believe they think she has nothing to do with any of this !!
OH GOD NOT GRAY HUGHES
The fact she still allowed this after they were broken up is even worse. And it was horrible to begin with
@@maryeheinly8256 I don’t believe they think that, pretty sure they very much know she’s not innocent and taking their time with her for a reason.
Gray hughes where??@@PunnySide_Up
Imagine being this guy's mother still defending him KNOWING what was going on. They're all vile.
It’s obvious that the mother is not sad/concerned for the loss of an innocent child.
IMO I think the "mom" knew but didn't care. I think Madeline lost her life standing up for herself because she had enough. Such a disgusting and heartbreaking life that poor child had to live through! Charge the "mother" already!!!! She allowed her child to sleep with her "boyfriend"!!!!
@Emily89420 💯
I feel like this too. Or there was a pregnancy/scare.
@sassafrass241 or, she got too old for his likes. And he didn't want her talking. Any and / or all maybes mentioned.
I think they need evidence of this first. You know….like proof
@ThePathOfLeastResistanc Against the "mother" maybe besides her confession of sending her daughter to sleep in the same room with her boyfriend. I'm sure more will come out in the investigation. But what more evidence is needed?
Why hasn’t Jen been charged when it’s on record that she sent her daughter off to sleep with Stephen Sternes when she had a headaches etc.???!!!
Great question! 🤬
I believe she will eventually be charged they just want to make sure the charges are going to stick
Because that isn’t a crime.
I think she hasn’t been charged yet because she would be the person that may know what has happened to Madeline. If she was involved they would cut some kind of deal with her to testify against Stephan.
Stephen Sterns mom’s letter was really weird. Not normal
Everyone failed Maddie
So very sad! I cry for her every time it comes up
The videos and pictures on his phone do not lie, and from what is being said, it shows him abusing Madeline whether the mom knew about it or not his family should absolutely be disgusted by his involvement.
Right!
Right, she acts like the mom knowing what was going on somehow absolves her son of the abuse and vile actions he committed upon a child. Like, lady, you are sick to even try and pretend your son isn't the most disgusting person to have done such a thing. The fact she is putting the blame on someone else is just sick and shows how he ended up being the person he is.
That poor baby, it breaks my heart
NOT GRAY HUGHES! UGH
My heart also tears up for Madddie
If JENN SOTO would have at least ONCE looked through his phone, she would have seen the videos and pictures....VERY SUSPICIOUS to me...I THINK SHE DID.
The first step is not sending your bf to bed with your daughter 😢😢
@@deannashowers2994 Discusting!!
@@deannashowers2994 💯
She knew it was going on.
She knew
Stephan Sterns' mother just told on herself. How can she know Jenn is involved without having knowledge herself
Good point 🤔
Because she know something
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She doesn't know anything because there's nothing to know. You all can not believe anything these people say. We know everything he's said is a LIE. What his enabling mom says, is a LIE.
Well yeah
Absolutely outrageous that months have passed and Jen Soto has not been arrested.
Can't STAND GRAY HUGHES
@@PunnySide_Up when he started blindly defending Jen Soto is when I had to stop watching his channel.
@@Dee-ny6uo Same, whether he actually believes such shows who he is as a person and if he is trying to bait others on, that is even lower
@@PunnySide_UpEXACTLY!!
@@Dee-ny6uo I’m thinking she’s just laughing at all of this because she left her man to do all of her dirty work while she just sat back and acted like nothing happened
It irks me that mom didn’t take the day off for her only child’s THIRTEENTH BIRTHDAY. That’s a milestone and happens the same day every year. That day every year should be requested off on day one of employment. Mom knew and mom purposefully tried to distance herself from the disgusting predatory relationship she encouraged
Agree
i’m glad you are commenting on that aspect.
i read in the comments recently that jenn was wearing maddies clothes in the area they claimed she (maddie) was dropped off in. suggesting she hoped to pass off as maddy to nearby cams.
with that being said…wouldn’t she request the night off of work/call-in/use vacation to celebrate her daughter becoming a teen (13, i believe-pray i’m not wrong out of respect)? it just seems super premeditated?? i can’t sit with this thought alone.
does it suggest premeditation to you?
we all can agree jen knew…but when did the knowing start/stop?
rest in God’s embrace, angel. 🤍🕊️🤍🕊️
@@LKitsyK I could see from day one she did care about her daughter
at all and when she answered the phone Oh Hi principal Im ok how are you..I was screaming at the phone YOUR ONLY DAUGHTER IS MISSING
AND YOUR ACTING LIKE YOU LOST A BIKE wonder what the principal thought.And some people say when she said that it you could see that pervert take a deep breath of relief
It tells me it was premeditated .
Speaks volumes
Yeah 13 big milestone my parents gave me a big party 13 16 and 18 what parent doesn't do that for the child. her making sure she didn't take off made sure she works shows how much she loves her daughter. Witch she dident from all the mean things I heard she would say to her smh damnnn
🇦🇺 If SS Mother knew so much, why didn't she report it. She is condoning his actions!
A roommate came forward and says the mother of SS had paid him off years ago for finding stuff on his computer.
IMO, if Jenn had no knowledge of what was going on, (which I doubt,) I would think she would publicly condemn him. We have yet to see her do that. Most parents would be enraged. I do believe Jenn knew about, or in the very least suspected the abuse.
Agree
@@amisam8176 I think it was in the back of her mind and she just kept talking herself out of it bc she knew him for 7 yrs and trusted him.
Well its been proven Brian Laundries parents knew Gabby was dead and they publicly defended their son for weeks and weeks. Parents do weird things when they are in denial.
She lawyered up. When it comes to her daughter, it's all about her self preservation. Justice for Madeline doesn't seem to be her concern.
@@toribern816i disagree. saying she trusted him takes away awareness of what was happening. this woman was old enough, aware enough, etc of what happens in decades past, when you send a teen to bed with a grown man. absolutely, no way.
“I hope you get your coffee & candy”, gag no wonder this a whole became such a monster. Mom is a deluded liar.
Jenn should be charged with failure to protect... Who sends their child to sleep in the same bed with a grown man who is not her biological father...
💯 That sounds like child endangerment to me, but I'm not a lawyer. Jenn was so selfish that she prioritized getting a good night of sleep over her only daughter's safety. Jenn literally served her daughter up to the predator. Jenn should be charged with something.
Jenn Soto needs to also be charged with negligent and failing to protect her precious child!!!!!!!!
For me one thing is very clear. There's no loving, concerning mother in this world who's sending her teenage daughter to bed with an adult male who's not even her biological father. End of story. Poor Maddie. We are parents, we should shield and love our children, this is our job and our responsibility. Jenn should be charged for not doing her duties as a mother at least. There should be a law like that!!!
I don’t think Jenn Soto knew SS killed Maddie, however I do believe she knew he was assaulting her. At the end of the day, she was so negligent in protecting her daughter. I’m not understanding why she hasn’t been arrested. Ppl have been arrested for less!
Im guessing shes cooperating with the police for immunity. They dont want her getting hostile with them. As long as they dont arrest her, she will probably continue talking to them
Hi Vinnie: During tonight' program, you missed one important event. Sterns went back to the crime scene 2 nights back-to-back at 3 a.m. The first night he took Jen's car. The second night he took his dad's car. The route and destination for both nights were the same. It was the crime scene. Also, he made 5 more trips to the dumpster in addition to the initial 2 trips (when he dumped the backpack, laptop, one shoe and his tire). We are not told the items that he dumped in those 5 times.
thank you for sharing that. 🤍🕊️🤍🕊️
@@fluffy5534 Hi fluffy, I have a question for you. I’m wondering if it has been disclosed that it was Stern driving Soto’s car? Have the police confirmed who was driving her car at 3am? Please let me know so I can read/watch who was the driver at that time. Thank you
Thanks for the info
sterns has those crazy eyes like Charles Manson. look when he is in back of police car. total creep
At least Manson was upfront about his evil ways.. SS's was in the back of the police car sweet talking the cop about holiday destinations...
Those “Manson Lamps”
Yes, his eyes are black!
His eyes look like evil, black pits. Very creepy.
Cold dead eyes.
13? She's still a KID
He’s probably lying to them like he lies to everyone else about everything.
Mom overlooked him sleeping with her child no shame
No she sent them to the same bedroom so " she " ( mom) could sleep. Smh.
@@Shieldmaiden600So does that mean he can r*pe a child?
How is a mother who literally stated she sent her daughter to bed with her boyfriend is not being arrested or investigated in a child sexual abuse case.....what is happening......
She's no mother.
@@TennesseeRockMom for real!
Because OF her mother. Maddie had to grow up at 8yrs old. Yet her mother gets to go on with her best life. How IS THIS JUSTICE?¿? SHE KNEW.
So while SS is doing all of this running around, also using Jenn’s car, where is she by the way? What is she doing during all of that? Is she suspicious that SS is running around like mad on the same afternoon, evening, and early morning that her daughter is also missing? She’s not even a little suspicious of him? Also, she’s not pounding the pavement with the rest of her family?
It’s all so strange on her part.
I think that from "go", that night's/morning's attempt at abuse, she rebelled against because Madeline saw it as her independence day. That poor baby.💔
She turned 13 a few days before her party.
This guy and her mother make me sick to my stomach
What does the mother think about the disgusting things found in his phone. I definitely believe her mother had something to do with it.
Jen Soto was a participant. Common sense. Imo. Been going on since Maddie was 8? There was a tripod in the bedroom, says to me JS not only knew but was a participant. 8 feel so sick that LE will need to look at all 1700+ pics and vids to see JS in or heard on them. She absolutely was a participant and had so many different men in and out of their lives. No one is THAT blind.
There's groups on social media covering the case and one who is well regarded said the moms family knew about the abuse and that Jenn turned a blind eye and that they gave her ultimatums to get rid of him or they would tell. Hence their attitudes in the bwc videos of not comforting jenn or sterns as they were furious with him being back around.
@@danidan9917 whether Jen stayed with him or not why would the family not call the police and report him if they knew so it wouldn't happen to Madeleine or any other child again instead of letting it slide?
@@Unsocial_butterfly1 because they knew Jenn would likely get in big trouble too. Loads of families cover up SA to protect the mother.
Disgusting email
About time. I have been waiting for this update from you guys for awhile now
I think its really dumb to release these emails. They will now cease communications and we could have gained so much more insight had they continued to write each other. Silly on behalf of the DA who released them.
Its florida. Freedom of information allows these and calls to be public.
Why did the mother tell the police and the media “we took her to school”….it was like she was talking responsibility with that sentence alone? This is disturbing. Prayers for this child to Rest In Peace; Justice to be served against anyone involved + for the innocent family + friends who have been negatively impacted by this horrific event .
I think mom is involved in the whole thing😔🤫and I think his mom is nuts!
His mom apparently knew what he was doing.
Gray Hughes once read out a sealed affadvit detailing the sexual abuse of a child to earn cash on his live stream. He's the last person to engage with over a case like this
The mother didn't show any emotions.Maybe she was jealous of her daughter terrible situation
I’ve wondered that myself
They need to find out where he was when the couple was on a break. I bet there are more victims. I sure hope not, though.
I can’t believe his mom. Even if Madeline was not murdered, he should still be in prison for the stuff that was found on his phone. I hope to God that her mom didn’t know what was going on and just let it happen.
There was an interview with one of Steven Stern’s friends where he said how messed up his mom and dad were while he was growing up! So the fact that the mom is trying to be Mrs. June Cleaver please
Beautiful young girl..heart breaking..horrible man!!
His mother is eluding too, they knew about he was sexually assaulting Maddy?
What are you saying Vinnie?
My mind is boggling.
My heart breaks for Maddy ❤
Listening to Jen Sotos interview, she said Madeleine told them she had a crush on someone at school. Could this have ignited jealousy in Sterns. She was his toy. Im damn sure he wouldnt have liked it
I have wondered if he got rid of her because she was interested in boys and he was worried that if she got close to a boy that she liked she would tell about the abuse. If she got a young boyfriend how would she explain that she's not a virgin. 😢
She was probably lying. Doesn’t seem like Madeline would have confided in her.
Justice For Madeline!!
🙏🏻💙😥💙😥🙏🏻
To say “disgusted she’s free and you’re not” is crazy!! Should have been “disgusted she’s not in jail like you”. Jen Soto is vile, Sterns mother is vile and Sterns himself is beyond vile!! Hearing him describe her before they found her and hearing him say “it doesn’t feel the same without her here” is beyond gross after knowing what he did.
Sick sick fxcks 🤬🤯🤮
This case breaks my heart❤Vinnie, I love how passionate you are about getting justice for Madeline… you’ve been a big brother to her from the beginning. It makes me sick to think that her mother was aware of what was going on.. she can’t be that ignorant..
He has his Mama wrapped around his finger. She is desperate to protect herself.
Thank you for your coverage on this case, Vinnie! We are all seeking the justice Madeline DESERVES!
“I didn’t think they were supposed to do stuff like that.” Amazing that he thinks anyone should be concerned about his comfort.
If Stefan's family all know, shouldn't they be charged? As a mother, I could not and would not support my son.
As for Jenn, she stated to the police (we dropped her off at school). She is standing by her child's murderer. I believe she is equally guilty. Who waits until 8 p.m. to report their child as missing?
He is 💯 guilty. They are trying to get the mom to testify against him. They do not need her.
He went back to the crime scene to show Jenn where he had dumped Maddie's body!
It broke my heart that after they did her autopsy, she got cremated right away. The mom knew and she wanted to get rid of the evidence.
Ugh. That poor little girl. Even in death her mom just wanted her gone. She never stood a chance with these evil freaks around her
@@weskelly4538 yes, the mom definitely knew. Why have her cremated right away and didn’t even attend her funeral.
I feel the mother is involved. She would do anything to keep Sterns around.
some women are truly so desperate.
Yuck. Hate seeing his photo.
It’s evil
Me Too 🤢🤢
He never shows up to none of them😡😡His Mommy & Daddy got his back!!!😡😡😡
She was definitely involved sad but she pawned her off to him. I’m sure it come out
Saaammeee 🤮🤮
her birth father could gotten her away from that life. he didn't give a damn. hekk, he hadn't even seen her since October. no decent human could or would go that long. EVERYONE failed this child.
They sure did. It’s so heartbreaking.
It's like no adult is outraged about the abuse this child suffered. It's mindblowing.
Wow, so in prison you get candy, coffee, emails, calls, gifts from family, workout outlets. This is way too cushy for him.
Oh he isn’t in prison yet, he is in jail!
Oh right, true. Well next stop prison!
So many of us women see ourselves in little Maddie.. So many of us have also experienced assault as children---most of us victimized by someone who should have loved and protected us the most.
😢
All the cameras that caught SS on that day... Wow!
He says “Nothing but love here”. What a jerk!
"This is not all your fault. - Mom." REALLY?!?
Really this is nothing more than heresay. Mom is of course going to be slanted towards her beloved son. Pathetic.
heresay? no. bias.
Look… moms interviews are so fake I wish people would stop covering up for her
@@Kenneth-nVA EXACTLY what I thought. Her emotions do not seem genuine. She sounds like Chris Watts when he was making public statements and pleas on the news. Idk the whole thing is so suspicious
She sounds and looks doped up
When Jen was shown the graphic pic of Sterns abusing Madeline- I wonder what was going through her mind.
Vinnie you have that weirdo Gray on your show again????!! Geez 🙄 🤮 makes many of us leave! You must not know that guy at all on TH-cam??!!
Can you please explain to me what Gray did? I don’t know who he is but also don’t want to watch his videos if I come across them and he’s not a good person.
@@jessicawamsley1652 watch one of his livestreams. You will see 😂
@@jessicawamsley1652from what I’ve read from others, Gray Hughes is very rude & calls his viewers names.
What if Jenn caught them together and she did something to Maddie, then SS helped cover it up? There are still so many questions...His mother sounds like Cindy Watts and Laundrie. Their sweet little boys can do no wrong. WTH?
I believe he would have said so, he would still go to prison for SA but not murder. In my opinion.
Why would she be shocked that they were together when she sent them to the bedroom upstairs together while she allegedly slept downstairs?
I have thought the very same thing. So you are not alone in your thoughts
This has been my gut feeling since the beginning. I hope someone in her family loved Maddie enough to turn on Jen. Because I have a feeling they know.
@@Janadu I'm glad I'm not the only one who has thought this. It's my feeling too. It's just horrible. I think about my two girls and how lucky I feel to know that they grew up without having to endure anything like this.
His mother is delusional
IMO Jen is guilty, of what I’m not sure. She’s lied a lot. She said she saw Maddie that morning, knew exactly what she was wearing, but then said that she actually didn’t see her.
I think that when Maddie came home from her party, her and her mom had a fight (Maddie’s friend said Maddie was mad because she didn’t get any money for her Birthday). Jen said she was going to kick Maddie out the second she turned 18, Maddie got D’s and F’s and her teachers said Jen never seemed to care, never went to back to school nights-nothing. I think Jen killed her. That’s why she separated herself and said she slept on the couch, her and Stephen made a plan that night, he took her ALONE to drop her body off. But, we’ll see what comes out!
Vinnie will this case be shown on court tv?
It depends on if they go to trial. Rumor is his defense is working on a plea deal.
Next time ask Pubes if he thinks it’s okay for a step dad to sleep alone in the same bed as his teenage step daughter. 😮😅
Lmfao "Pubes" 🤣🤣🤣😭
As a mother, I cannot imagine making a half-assed plea for my daughter’s return and then not tell her I love her. I hope you’re safe, I hope you’re not hurt? All well and good but no tears, no I love you…. I would be groveling and making sure my daughter knew how much I loved and missed her. That’s how I immediately knew Jen was guilty.
She didn't even say Maddys name until she was forced to say it by interviewer
Every time I hear him speak, all I can think of is what he did to an innocent little girl. He robbed her of her innocence and life, may god have mercy on him, because god knows I can’t and won’t.
The mom knew. What woman this day and age doesn’t go through their mans phone or catch onto any signs from their man ESPECIALLY THEIR CHILD !
I think that Jen should be investigated as well…
they did investigate her and feel there are no charges at this point. I definitely feel that Jen needs to be charged. She lied to police, covered for him, and sent Maddie to sleep with this man. I cannot imagine what else Jen has done. Its very sad!
Yeah, it's not normal.
@@Lifewithpersiansyou are absolutely correct..
Her behavior is very suspicious, she seems nervous rather than worried about her daughter... This whole thing makes me sick 😔
Just maybe Jenn just didn’t know. My x is a pervert and I never knew until my neighbors told me about this strange guy and I was married to him.
She's not comfortable lying. She's covering for the boyfriend.
She is more than covering for SS. She used the GoFundMe money to hire a lawyer for herself. JEN SOTO DID NOT ATTEND MADDIES FUNERAL. It all adds up to me. Shady shady soulless woman.
And Jen Soto NEVER SHED A TEAR!
i don’t think it’s that g-rated.
Gray Hughes is a joke
Who is he? I mean, I really know almost zero about this guest.
@@kimberlychelen9890 he’s a TH-cam creator. I don’t like his channel or opinions.
@@tracievendetta1908
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Can't bear to hear his pathetic voice and lies. Make a my skin crawl. Poor Maddie 💔 RIP
In regards to all the photos he is being charged with...do they have a time of day the incidents took place. IF SO...Do the times of the incidents match with Jens work schedule?Wouldnt that help with knowing how much she knew what he was doing to Madeline?
Yessss, I think you’re on to something here.
The mom’s behavior and facial expressions during the questioning in that office are so bizarre. The whole interview was just disturbing.
Now lets look at mom..... Neglegent? Absolutely! Suspicious? Absolutely! Can anything be proved? I would like to know....
I also wonder about the grandmother. Did she as a close family member NEVER suspect anything odd ??
So many people turned a blind eye, even the school counselor.
Rest in peace and freedom dear Maddie ✝️ 🙏 💛
She did know, she saying she knew that he was doing it along with Jenn! Why would she say that if she didn't know??
Can’t believe his mother is ignoring all the SA!! clearly the family doesn’t see anything wrong with it. The mother knows that the emails are monitored, having said that I think the mother needs to be charged too for not protecting her child. Ignore the emails from a woman who condones her SA ing son
I am really disappointed in court tv and vinnie for having this grey Hugh’s guy on, one listen to one of his lives and he tells you all you need to know about the type of person this man. He is a raging narcissist speaks horrible to the people that call. Please stop having g this man on, there are other really good TH-camrs with a much better personality.
Agree! He is an awful grifter!
@@MDC8915 yes his lives are horrible he just begs for money and talks down to callers. Who even does “call in” type radio stuff anymore anyway? He’s still in 1990. 😂
Agree! Will not watch him at all! And I’m so disappointed that Court TV has him on their show. If they keep having him on, I’m out.
I agree! He’s a know it all & I tried watching a few episodes of his but couldn’t get through either of them! He’s a complete a$$ to anyone that offers their opinion & calls them out saying they’re idiots, etc. I know he donates money but I cannot stand watching people ask for money over & over or they constantly have their mods or they themselves post about donating to the channel!
Is this true? I watched a few videos with interviews in this case and he seemed okay. Maybe I'm missing something. Tbf I have never watched any of his lives.
People keep saying her mother failed her, yes her mother did and her mother also is the person that killed her. She offered that girl to him and he starting liking have giving all his attention to her and that mother mot jealous. She was jealous of Maddy, but he is who disposed of the body. Maddy's own friend said her and him would talk and text all time, and she never gave the impression that Maddy was afraid of him.....
I believe this as well. SS is absolute a disgusting predator but he was clearly distraught during the news interviews after she “went missing”. IMO
I stopped watching as soon as I saw Gray Hughes...🤨
You literally took the words right out of my mouth!! Why is this bullshit artist and all around chump still being showcased on here??? Come on Vinnie!!
@@RullXov why are people not fond of the guy gray Hughes?
@@RullXov he was on for maybe 1 minute good grief . Why be negative?
How can anyone defend him, what can you defend