I think it's possible the market dried up at 13 and with her development and yes, they looked elsewhere and were offered something to spend time with her.
I think he pulled his car in there before leaving Maddie there before pulling onto the other side of the road to change the tyre. I think he got the flat tire pulling in.
courtTV I feel like they have enough to get Ss without needing Js to testify. So I hope they are not offering her any deals. BUT They do need Ss to get JS so do you think they will spare his life to get her. Can they even believe him if he says anything about JS involvement? He proved he will lie until he’s back into a corner. She is as involved in the in the lie about dropping her off at school as him. How can she not be charged? That’s the only thing that makes me think she’s involved.
courtTV I feel like they have enough to get Ss without needing Js to testify. So I hope they are not offering her any deals. BUT They do need Ss to get JS so do you think they will spare his life to get her. Can they even believe him if he says anything about JS involvement? He proved he will lie until he’s back into a corner. She is as involved in the in the lie about dropping her off at school as him. How can she not be charged? That’s the only thing that makes me think she’s involved.
@@techwithbecso I don’t think accidental would be the case sadly. There was blood on her arms, neck, under her nail & in both her cavities I believe :(
She is obligated as a mother to provide the basic necessities to her child. Those are: Food, shelter, clothing, schooling, access to healthcare, love, and safety. She is not supposed to neglect her daughter. She is not supposed to allow her child to share a bed with an adult man that’s not her Dad. She is supposed to protect her daughter from harm imposed by another not allow it to go on and on and on and turn a blind eye and go to work all the time.
@@francinejones2524 yes she is! It a shame anyone can have children. Wanting to please your man, in fear of him leaving you, is horrible. Especially while sacrificing your own daughter.
I don’t think there are many women who haven’t gone through their partners phone. Unless he had the images of Madeline very hidden it seems like Jen knew what was going on.
Jen needs to be charged as an enabler to the SA. I also think it odd that she was not out scouring the neighbourhood on the night Madeline was reported missing. Her lack of action makes her suspicious of knowledge of the m.
Same ,No one will ever make me believe jen didnt know,She handed her to him & then I believe in her sick twisted mind became jealous of her as if they were in a actual relationship& refused to stop the abuse ....Then even after she was gone ,She still stood by his side ,Lying & covering for him...Also covering for herself....
She knew she allowed that man to sleep with her daughter... no real parent or decent adult would allow a man or a grown woman to sleep with a child. especially seeing as they had their own beds. I believe the molestation started when all 3 started sleeping in the bed. Jen most likely allowed that man to touch Maddie while she pretended to be asleep on the other side of them. She is just as sick as he is.
@@Play4keeks I so agree ,Jenn was not always sleep when the SA took place ,That's being used to cover her ,Also any mother would of said you can lay at the other end of my bed ,Or make a patty on the floor Instead she instructed a young female child to go sleep with an adult man ,She knew what would happen,shes not as slow as people portraying her to be,But absolutley sick,..I will be outraged if jen isnt locked up ecspecialy since she confessed to allow it ,None of this would of happen if jen didnt allow it
Once I heard about her sending them off to sleep together I could no longer give her the benefit of the doubt. Whose to say she didn't make money off the images.
Jenn reminds me of my mother. My moms husbands SA me and i ran away because of it, i was a teen. im 29 now, just had a baby. i had nowhere to live so i moved in with her, couldnt keep that secret anymore. I told her what her husband did. instead of canceling him, she got a restraining order against me and evicted me. I promise, there are some real shitty mothers out there. When i was a kid, she would get upset when i called my dad, "dad". she said he wasnt a dad, but a sperm donor. id say the same for her. she let my body get used day in and day out, so she could keep her partner. shes not a mom, or a mother, but a egg donor. She was infatuated with this case, it sickens me. I brought this up to the judge, I feel like shes obsessed with Maddy's case, and whatever the defense for stephan/jenn use, shes gonna use. she is sick in the head.
I pray you find healing and choose to have a happy life, break the chains and be a loving mother to your child. I'm also a survivor. Sorry for what you have been through.
I pray God heals you from the SA and the abuse your mother allowed to be forced on you. There is something so wrong with women like Jen and your "egg donor" You are important and had a terrible mother.
As a mother, never...never would my child be sent away w an adult of the opposite sex for the night. This mom had to have known 1 of those 5 years of her child's hell. It makes sense why the victim said what she said to her school counselor. Mom wasn't protecting her, but making her kids circumstances much worse. Poor child. Breaks my heart how "adults" dont adult.
I went for a hike with my dogs and one of them ran away to chase an armadillo. He was gone for only about 5 minutes. But during that time I was frantic and crying because I was worried about him. Jen hated her daughter because that beast was more interested in abusing Maddy than loving her. I believe she allowed it as punishment for Maddy and a way to keep that monster there.
If they could recover all the images, they’ll be able to figure out if he was being paid for it and profiting from her suffering. They said he was on telegram after she was killed. Most likely bragging or showing off something sick right? What do you think?
When we spoke with Cody at Maddie’s Memorial he truly cared about the integrity of the story & he took time to silently pay his respects as well as the camera lady… What a professional yet humanistic reporter 🙏🏻👌🏻.
What kind of mother sends her Adult bf and own teenage daughter to go sleep together in the next room???!!!! She needs to be arrested grrr 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 RIP Madeleine 😢💔💔💔💔😭😭😭
22:23 surprisingly, a lot of people don’t know that Jenn Soto actually lived (a couple years back )near the location Madeline was found. Jai from the Chanel guilty of crime did a background check on Jenn ( showed all her old addresses ) coincident ? Or did Jenn instruct Stephan were to leave the body ?!
I just can’t believe she hasn’t been charged with this also. She was a bad mother who didn’t care about her daughter. You can clearly see she’s not that concerned with her daughter missing. Some thing is very off with her forsure.
Though, her demeanor is probably affected by anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication she probably have been on for years. They don't target specific emotional state of being with precision. And that is also worth thinking of...had there been something specific to get to the emotional state she was seen to be needing these psych meds? Have she medicated away feeling that is seen as "bad" for they in extent can disturb our daily routines and "have to". While often these "bad" feelings should function as our inner alarm system, an alert there is something we must give extra attention to. And you see it in quite many cases where someone is accused to having killed the partner, the dead partner is described as unstable, having feeling bad and on psych meds for a long time. Which may be true, but with a good reason but unfortunately got the wrong solution (numbing the anxiety with psych meds instead of go away from a destructive relation). This not to bash psych meds as such a lot of people are helped by them with various disorders. It could be she's been on them for a long time thus being vulnerable to start with. If Stephan then is that dark triad type he would potentially be able to appear to be a guy who can provide a sense of safety that many women are attracted to. If looking at older pictures of them he's in good physical shape (they both look to have deteriorated rather quick though), having grown up at a farm so he's probably practical, handy and can fix things around the house. And he have worked at Disney, seemingly good with kids.
@@MKUltra42 Oh. Did not know that. I guess I was prejudiced ignorant of that background. Perhaps because Madeleine's bio father is with the military and I would guesstimate they have some degree of physical capacity/competence. But anyhow. Jennifer looks considerably more as I percieved as SSRI puffy in inte interviews compared to the photos showing her from a few years back. So maybe it is other issues than only mental issues.
I love you Vin , but I can’t watch this case anymore. It is so heartbreaking and it weighs so heavy on my heart. RIP beautiful angel. You are loved by so many who didn’t even know you. ❤
My heart breaks for Maddie. Her mom failed her. Her friends and the school failed her. Hell.... even after death the police failed her by posting the picture of her body on a Facebook post. I mean its just unbelievable all the hell this poor young girl went through. As a father, I am angry and heartbroken. Justice needs fo happen and not just Stephan Sterns. What mother let's this happen. We wont stop fighting for you Maddie.
Everyone who knew Maddie failed her. Totally ignorant and failed in their duty of care responsibilities. Especially the Murderer, Jen, family, bio Dad, school.
This is so sad I don't get it at all I have 4 children and two of them are girls I can't even understand how any patent could send a grown man In one of my girls room to abuse her what the hell is wrong with that mother my heart is broken for this poor baby girl R.I.P. 🙏💔
I hope Jennifer didn't have Stephan record and take photos of him abusing Madeline to sell the images for money! I hope they check her bank accounts too!
I feel like that is not out of the realm of possibility. So disturbing. Poor Maddy very sad for the life she had to endure, children don't get to choose their parents she deserved so much better.
@@merimasviland8006why is she strange smfh?? Sorry that some of us have a brain in our skull and in using this brain, it’s NOT far fetched even a LITTLE bit to assume something depraved like this took place… Have you NOT been following the case thus far Lol?? 🙄 Matter of fact, to NOT think something like this would be strange actually FFS!
I think that's very possible also, and the second trip I think he went back to possibly look for tire impressions because with the flat tire he was probably panicking. And I think it's very possible also that he may have gone there to stage the body more. Something triggered him and he had to go back and my guess is Tire impressions. But I don't know
Jenn Soto KNEW! There is no way that your boyfriend of 5+ years or whatever how long they were. She knew, you can’t just turn a blind eye and Madeline knew what was wrong and right at that time and I have a feeling she told her mother but her mother didn’t do anything.
I agree and I feel like he probably was not engaging with Jen sexually very often if at all. Jen was probably jealous and allowed what happened just to keep him from walking out or her life. It's so sickening.
Again I agree Jenn absolutley knew ,This didnt happen once or twice ,This went on for years who did the laundry she seen something ,I believe jenn became jealous of poor Maddie and looked at her like she was the other woman
I'm curious to know if the two roommate's that lived there with Jenn knew, saw, heard anything or felt weird around Stephan. I don't think Jenn was involved in her death, but she's responsible for sending her daughter off to sleep with a grown piece of crap. I feel like she should be charged with neglect something. I really think either Maddie was either going to tell on him or he got her pregnant, or she really faught him this last night.
@wisdomislife8080 there were other adults living there renting rooms. In one of the arrest documents it stated that Jen sent Madeline and Steven to room #4 to sleep together.
@@wisdomislife8080 I'm not sure if they have made any statements. I personally haven't heard or read anything about it but I am curious to know what if anything they have said.
Just catching the end , Vinnie. Love all you do in explaining and offering fair and honest views regarding these cases. Also, thanks so much for my frr month membership, deeply appreciated ❤❤!
There has to be a reason for Stephen to have murdered Madeline that day. After years of getting away with abusing her, what made him hurt her that day...after her bday party...was Maddy going to out him? Did he accidentally kill her while abusing her? Or..and I know people hate to think this but did Madeline tell Stephen she was pregnant & he decided that she had to be silenced? It's hard to believe Stephen going to trial, but I truely hope we find answers to why this young girl was murdered.
@@alexpriedite1447 Yes, but haven't the result been sealed? Only information that I know was given was the possible strangulation? Other then that I don't recall any news or channel getting the full autopsy results and going over all of the findings.
I think she was pregnant because as asked, why now? This went on for years ,what changed either she was pregnant ,something they eventually couldnt hide ,or she had a pregnancy scare....
@@ladyleo944 it's also possible she aged out... alot of pdf files have specific ages for the children they abuse. It's possible she was starting to develop past the point he wanted to abuse her. Idk.
Mother let him sleep with her daughter,how sick,being a guy I'd never sleep with a child that biological ain't even mine plus a young lady,so sad and god bless
She obviously realised she had No right to act like a distraught grieving parent at finding out (if she didn't already know that is) what was happening right under her nose for years.. Rip Madeline 💔
Isnt weird that she wanted to live in the woods. And they find her dead in a wooded area. Is this why Stephen put her here because he new about her saying this?
How did he get her out of the house without anyone seeing him??? To many people in the house without anyone hearing or seeing …. It’s strange if you ask me….
@@Play4keeks no your not reading right what I put hunnie ….. when Stephen hurt maddie after he did, how did he get her body out of the house without anyone seeing or hearing him?
I think Jenn was involved with Sterns in Maddie's murder. She doesn't act like a mother whose child is missing and then found dead. She was involved in some way besides telling them to leave her room and sleep together in another room. She is not a mother.
Kids will always open up to a good parent, a good parent always helps their kids, protects their kids. When my son was little, if someone distressed or hurt him, angry mumma bear just took over and I wanted answers and I wanted them yesterday. Jen soto is no parent.
The more I see about this case, the more questions I have for the mom...imo I really think she became in competition with her daughter and resentment filled her. I believe that Stephen groomed both mom and Madeline so he could control things. Idk if mom was privy to what he was doing to Madeline bc she was too busy competing and working and bc Madeline was groomed to most likely think Stephen loved her and the only one who understood her, she kept quiet and all the red flags that Stephen presented were ignored. Very tragic case. I pray Madeline is in peace.
I heard you say earlier that mom can't be charged for allowing her daughter to sleep with Stephan Unless she knew something was happening. It's appalling to me that she couldn't be charged with at least negligence or neglect for allowing this behavior. That to me is crazy. Honestly, Vinnie , where is the justice for this child??? The same in the Read trial: I truly believe she accidentally hit John, yet John as well as the O'Keefe family are so lost in this madness of a trial.
Concerning the 2nd trip to the site: It could be that Sterns told Jennifer to stay home in case Madeline shows up there and told her that he would go out and look for Madeline.
There going to do to Jenn the same thing they did to Nicole Kessinger, NOTHING. I really hope she doesn't get away with this. She deserves to be in jail.
Great show! Thanks you all for your hard work! This case has really got to my heart. I feel so sad for Madeline and I can imagine the agony and anxiety she must have felt and that was present in her mundset every single day. By this case I also found a new side un my own personality. I suddenly realised that I didn't feel sorry for Stefan Sterns, in fact I think it serves him right to get the death penalty. The way he/ they destroyed a young girls sexuality and violated her integrity, is never to be forgiven! Never! That all this took place with Madeline's mother present makes it even more sickening! Two crazy adults that had found eatch other and ruined Madeline's young life and let her die. Jen Soto better start talking soon. I don't hesitate beliving that Jen's involvment is an actual fact.
Cody is so good, he compliments VP very well ... knowledgeable, sharp and ready, that is what this channel is about, love it! Sooooo impressed while not easily impressed!
Where is Maddie family 😢 They all knew something wasn't right. Her grandmother said she had a lot of fears and was scared to sleep alone. She thought that was alright 🤬
There's actually an interview that they did with some of the family members talking about you know her weird behavior how they thought this was weird or that was weird but they honestly seemed completely unaffected by all of this. Especially her biological Father's side.
Did he change clothes from Holiday Inn to Hickory Tree Road? The eye witness who saw him changing the tire said a dark or black shirt, and a green hat…right? Not a red shirt that was caught on camera at the resort.
AND as far as the drive at 3am to the dump site, he wanted to see if her body was found, and he was driving by to see any police lights or commotion etc., THAT is why he drove there overnight- to check to see if she has been located. It's obvious! It's he same reason Kolberger drove by the campus house the next morning and the same reason why Wendy Adelson drove by Martels street- to check n the crime scene to see if it's been discovered yet. They need to put me on the show. sheeeezzzz.
to the owner of the field... fortunately in this tragedy this gate was open and he had a flat tyres.....Because he put her there fast and she could be found quickly... as well as evidence on her. You can read in Madeline's eyes and face... that something Going on . She looks sad and suffering in there. That was my first thought when I saw the pictures and she was missing ...and Stern ...I watched his interviews and something made me feel extremely uncomfortable and creepy... I hope and im sure he never comes out ....i hope for the death penalty
He purposely had a flat so if the cops stop him or a " witness" seen him on that rolled pulled over , that was his excuse.. he definitely is familiar with that area... I'm sorry Madeline for all your struggles😢😢😢😢
I think he put her body somewhere else during that first day. I think he drove out on that country road to find a place to dump her - found the place when he had to pull over and change his tire. Then that next early morning 3:00ish he took Jenn's car, picked up the body and then drove out to the dump site to leave her. It would be extremely dark and very few cars, if any, at that time of day. I think that is why the cadaver dog hit on Jenn's car when they tested it. It just so happened that someone driving by that day saw him changing the tire and remembered the incident. There was a time gap between when he moved her to his trunk and when he was picked back up on road cameras after 12:00 that day - where was he and what was he doing?? Hiding the body?? Then went on the drive out to the final dump site early next morning??
Can it be that Madeline's mother killed her, and Stern's help to get rid of the body. Maybe the mother got upset with Madeline and the mother's head hooked out, and she struggled Madeline??? The way that Stern's mother said that Stern's must not take all the blame and speak to his lawyer.
Either he didn't like that she was growing up, she ended up pregnant by the monster or she started menstruating and he was scared of getting her pregnant or she threatened to say something. There is no way Jen had no idea this was happening. She is just as guilty and handed her child over to a preditor on a silver platter. I hope she is arrested soon.
Where is the mother? Obviously in hiding...is she watching any of these videos? Is her family watching and telling her what is being said or thought about her? Just something I have wondered about since none of these videos I follow about this case have mentioned anyone spotting her at all......
Where was Madeliene's mother when he was taking her daughter's body out of the house to the car?? She must have known her daughter was dead at that point because she said she saw her getting ready for school!!
#CourtTV - What do YOU think?
I think it's possible the market dried up at 13 and with her development and yes, they looked elsewhere and were offered something to spend time with her.
I think he pulled his car in there before leaving Maddie there before pulling onto the other side of the road to change the tyre. I think he got the flat tire pulling in.
Please redact the witness name and phone number. I think you accidentally doxed him and his phone number on one of the documents you showed
courtTV I feel like they have enough to get Ss without needing Js to testify. So I hope they are not offering her any deals. BUT They do need Ss to get JS so do you think they will spare his life to get her. Can they even believe him if he says anything about JS involvement? He proved he will lie until he’s back into a corner. She is as involved in the in the lie about dropping her off at school as him. How can she not be charged? That’s the only thing that makes me think she’s involved.
courtTV I feel like they have enough to get Ss without needing Js to testify. So I hope they are not offering her any deals. BUT They do need Ss to get JS so do you think they will spare his life to get her. Can they even believe him if he says anything about JS involvement? He proved he will lie until he’s back into a corner. She is as involved in the in the lie about dropping her off at school as him. How can she not be charged? That’s the only thing that makes me think she’s involved.
WHY HASN'T JEN BEEN ARRESTED FOR SEVERE NEGLECT?¡?
And they think she drove the route in her car they he took to dump her body and her stuff before she was reported missing 😮
i can hear cody at madelines site just fine its the dude in the suits end thats weird for me
just sayin
overall good report
The way the mom knowingly let her child sleep in the bed with a grown man is beyond sick and criminal 🤢
I'm sure it's coming, they might want to wait until stephan trial and use him as a witness in Jens trial
When Stephan says “Beating the Bushes”.🙄🤢🐍
More Cody Thomas, please. He’s a terrific reporter! Beautiful speaking voice!
I agree 💯
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Either she got pregnant or she threatened to tell
@@kellyhiller3977 Could we rule out the possibility that it was accidental at this point?
Yes I've thought that maybe she spoke up or was pregnant
@@techwithbecI watched another video that had some sort of document that showed there was quite a bit of blood on her body
@@techwithbecso I don’t think accidental would be the case sadly. There was blood on her arms, neck, under her nail & in both her cavities I believe :(
I agree 💯
Mom needs to be in jail.
She is obligated as a mother to provide the basic necessities to her child. Those are: Food, shelter, clothing, schooling, access to healthcare, love, and safety.
She is not supposed to neglect her daughter. She is not supposed to allow her child to share a bed with an adult man that’s not her Dad. She is supposed to protect her daughter from harm imposed by another not allow it to go on and on and on and turn a blind eye and go to work all the time.
@@francinejones2524 yes she is! It a shame anyone can have children. Wanting to please your man, in fear of him leaving you, is horrible. Especially while sacrificing your own daughter.
I don’t think there are many women who haven’t gone through their partners phone. Unless he had the images of Madeline very hidden it seems like Jen knew what was going on.
Yes
@@mayrazambrana794for sure like yesterday.
She needs charged as well
That final party got me thinking about the Mom being involved.
No idea why I would be blocked on the Livestream though 🤷.
@@grungetruck8243it might be the you tube algorithm. I get comments taken down all the time & for no reason that I can think of.
Jen needs to be charged as an enabler to the SA. I also think it odd that she was not out scouring the neighbourhood on the night Madeline was reported missing. Her lack of action makes her suspicious of knowledge of the m.
I think it depends.
Cody's reporting is a class act. The most informed update that we've had for several weeks.
Glad to know that I am not alone in this, class act indeed!!
Jen knew it was going on. Nobody will ever make me believe differently. She fed that little girl to him.
Same ,No one will ever make me believe jen didnt know,She handed her to him & then I believe in her sick twisted mind became jealous of her as if they were in a actual relationship& refused to stop the abuse ....Then even after she was gone ,She still stood by his side ,Lying & covering for him...Also covering for herself....
She knew she allowed that man to sleep with her daughter... no real parent or decent adult would allow a man or a grown woman to sleep with a child. especially seeing as they had their own beds. I believe the molestation started when all 3 started sleeping in the bed. Jen most likely allowed that man to touch Maddie while she pretended to be asleep on the other side of them. She is just as sick as he is.
@@Play4keeks I so agree ,Jenn was not always sleep when the SA took place ,That's being used to cover her ,Also any mother would of said you can lay at the other end of my bed ,Or make a patty on the floor Instead she instructed a young female child to go sleep with an adult man ,She knew what would happen,shes not as slow as people portraying her to be,But absolutley sick,..I will be outraged if jen isnt locked up ecspecialy since she confessed to allow it ,None of this would of happen if jen didnt allow it
@@ladyleo944 amen. Lock her up. She allowed her daughter to be tortured for years and killed.
Once I heard about her sending them off to sleep together I could no longer give her the benefit of the doubt. Whose to say she didn't make money off the images.
Vinny, Thank you for always keeping Madeline's memory alive and holding these monsters accountable 😢
A woman can have a child, but not all who do are MOTHERS. She knew what was happening. I believe Jennifer was heavily involved in her demise.
Probably jealous of Madeline
@@llong2283162how horrible for you to imply that!!
I agree 😢
Me too. I believe she knew and is just as guilty.
@maggieduje5072. I agree would not be shocked to hear she even killed her...
To CourtTV: Cody Thomas is charismatic and has a wonderful, deep, rich voice. Make him an anchor!
And never invite the black lady.
She’s awfully confused and has no clue how to speak
Agreed💯
She was not a mom😢
Not a good mom for sure
Jenn birthed her & that’s all!😭🤬
Cody & Vinnie. You both rock!
She new something 5 yrs a mother knows she's sick!
HOW IS SHE NOT IN JAIL?
Law enforcement is dotting i'scand crossing t's.
I sure wouldn't want to risk a mistrial.
@@LibertyStation92106 I was just going to say this...they have to be able to prove the case and probably don't have the evidence needed on her yet
She has immunity if she isn’t found to have lied 🤥
Jenn reminds me of my mother. My moms husbands SA me and i ran away because of it, i was a teen. im 29 now, just had a baby. i had nowhere to live so i moved in with her, couldnt keep that secret anymore. I told her what her husband did. instead of canceling him, she got a restraining order against me and evicted me. I promise, there are some real shitty mothers out there. When i was a kid, she would get upset when i called my dad, "dad". she said he wasnt a dad, but a sperm donor. id say the same for her. she let my body get used day in and day out, so she could keep her partner. shes not a mom, or a mother, but a egg donor. She was infatuated with this case, it sickens me. I brought this up to the judge, I feel like shes obsessed with Maddy's case, and whatever the defense for stephan/jenn use, shes gonna use. she is sick in the head.
I pray you find healing and choose to have a happy life, break the chains and be a loving mother to your child. I'm also a survivor. Sorry for what you have been through.
@@Monica-hv4rf So very sorry this happened to you. I hope that you are able to heal and be the protector for your child that you never had.
I pray God heals you from the SA and the abuse your mother allowed to be forced on you. There is something so wrong with women like Jen and your "egg donor" You are important and had a terrible mother.
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@@Monica-hv4rf I’m so sorry 😞
Jen is also responsible or guilty!
As a mother, never...never would my child be sent away w an adult of the opposite sex for the night. This mom had to have known 1 of those 5 years of her child's hell. It makes sense why the victim said what she said to her school counselor. Mom wasn't protecting her, but making her kids circumstances much worse. Poor child. Breaks my heart how "adults" dont adult.
Omg, this monster is sickening!!! 🤬🤬🤬
Poor girl used and abused at the very least by eight years old
I have no respect for jenn
That mother wasn't even crying wth
That struck me as well. I know we all have different reactions but I have a 13 year old daughter and I would be devastated if she were missing
Not 1 tear
I went for a hike with my dogs and one of them ran away to chase an armadillo. He was gone for only about 5 minutes. But during that time I was frantic and crying because I was worried about him. Jen hated her daughter because that beast was more interested in abusing Maddy than loving her. I believe she allowed it as punishment for Maddy and a way to keep that monster there.
Oh baby girl rest in heaven! Praying you get the justice you deserve! Such a tragedy
Love Cody the reporter, please have him on more often!
That guy Cody was going behind the call of duty to show us that Jenn and Stephens story was bs, very informative reporting fr
He profited from/trafficked pictures of Madeline horrifically. Imagine how many times he sold this material to the vilest of people online.
If they could recover all the images, they’ll be able to figure out if he was being paid for it and profiting from her suffering. They said he was on telegram after she was killed. Most likely bragging or showing off something sick right? What do you think?
@@Jaybro9908if he was on telegram he was definitely trading and selling cp. he probably has other victims too.
@@Jaybro9908I think your 💯 right.
Don’t forget “Santa” and his son that lived in St. Cloud. 🐍🐍
@@michelleg4069Santa? What is that about? I’ve been following this since before she was found dead 😢
When we spoke with Cody at Maddie’s Memorial he truly cared about the integrity of the story & he took time to silently pay his respects as well as the camera lady… What a professional yet humanistic reporter 🙏🏻👌🏻.
What kind of mother sends her Adult bf and own teenage daughter to go sleep together in the next room???!!!! She needs to be arrested grrr 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 RIP Madeleine 😢💔💔💔💔😭😭😭
Absolutely sickening.
I’m NOT convinced that for 5 years her mother never suspected anything or was never told by her daughter that this was going on!!
So she's saying she doesn't reconise any of the the pictures so if this is true then she is guilty. If the pictures are real?
The mom is guilty too
Cody did a great job reporting on this!
5 years of abuse, absolutely unbelievable, there are no words for this. Rest in peace little girl 😭❤️
I guess they were able to pin point the time it started from the photo data.
She was at an age where she might have started to talk to school officials and the police.
Thank you Vinnie for not giving up on this case and being consistent! I’ve watched every episode of Madilene I’m waiting for justice to be served
22:23 surprisingly, a lot of people don’t know that Jenn Soto actually lived (a couple years back )near the location Madeline was found. Jai from the Chanel guilty of crime did a background check on Jenn ( showed all her old addresses ) coincident ? Or did Jenn instruct Stephan were to leave the body ?!
Jenn Soto also lied about what time she went to pick up Maddie from school.
I’m surprised that they don’t have photos of who’s driving Jen’s car. Especially with cameras everywhere now a days!
I hope they check their financials. I hadn’t even thought of that.
I just can’t believe she hasn’t been charged with this also. She was a bad mother who didn’t care about her daughter. You can clearly see she’s not that concerned with her daughter missing. Some thing is very off with her forsure.
Though, her demeanor is probably affected by anti-depressants, anti-anxiety medication she probably have been on for years. They don't target specific emotional state of being with precision. And that is also worth thinking of...had there been something specific to get to the emotional state she was seen to be needing these psych meds? Have she medicated away feeling that is seen as "bad" for they in extent can disturb our daily routines and "have to". While often these "bad" feelings should function as our inner alarm system, an alert there is something we must give extra attention to.
And you see it in quite many cases where someone is accused to having killed the partner, the dead partner is described as unstable, having feeling bad and on psych meds for a long time. Which may be true, but with a good reason but unfortunately got the wrong solution (numbing the anxiety with psych meds instead of go away from a destructive relation). This not to bash psych meds as such a lot of people are helped by them with various disorders.
It could be she's been on them for a long time thus being vulnerable to start with. If Stephan then is that dark triad type he would potentially be able to appear to be a guy who can provide a sense of safety that many women are attracted to. If looking at older pictures of them he's in good physical shape (they both look to have deteriorated rather quick though), having grown up at a farm so he's probably practical, handy and can fix things around the house. And he have worked at Disney, seemingly good with kids.
@@johannas.l.brushane2518Well, they became friends because they were both obese and had had the same weight loss surgery.
@@MKUltra42 Oh. Did not know that. I guess I was prejudiced ignorant of that background. Perhaps because Madeleine's bio father is with the military and I would guesstimate they have some degree of physical capacity/competence.
But anyhow. Jennifer looks considerably more as I percieved as SSRI puffy in inte interviews compared to the photos showing her from a few years back. So maybe it is other issues than only mental issues.
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I love you Vin , but I can’t watch this case anymore. It is so heartbreaking and it weighs so heavy on my heart.
RIP beautiful angel.
You are loved by so many who didn’t even know you. ❤
I’m with you, and I haven’t stopped crying. 💔
My heart breaks for Maddie. Her mom failed her. Her friends and the school failed her. Hell.... even after death the police failed her by posting the picture of her body on a Facebook post. I mean its just unbelievable all the hell this poor young girl went through. As a father, I am angry and heartbroken. Justice needs fo happen and not just Stephan Sterns. What mother let's this happen. We wont stop fighting for you Maddie.
I'm sorry, what?! The police posted pictures of her... corpse? On their Facebook page?
@@carrainedYep. They said it was “accident”. 🙄
Her friends didn't fail her. They are children as well.
Everyone who knew Maddie failed her. Totally ignorant and failed in their duty of care responsibilities. Especially the Murderer, Jen, family, bio Dad, school.
love the reporter at the location. so clear and confluent
This is so sad I don't get it at all I have 4 children and two of them are girls I can't even understand how any patent could send a grown man In one of my girls room to abuse her what the hell is wrong with that mother my heart is broken for this poor baby girl R.I.P. 🙏💔
And apparently send her 13 yr old daughter and boyfriend to sleep in a different bedroom together so she can get her sleep… UH WHAT
He doesnt recall were he was last night when Maddy was missing and he was apparently "looking for her"?? Does he really think people are stupid?
I hope Jennifer didn't have Stephan record and take photos of him abusing Madeline to sell the images for money! I hope they check her bank accounts too!
I feel like that is not out of the realm of possibility. So disturbing. Poor Maddy very sad for the life she had to endure, children don't get to choose their parents she deserved so much better.
Ok you are very strange, I think you have been watching too much true crime. You dont have an objective look on this
There was a tripod set up in room #4. How did Jenn not know that and put two and two together?? She had to have known.
@@merimasviland8006why is she strange smfh?? Sorry that some of us have a brain in our skull and in using this brain, it’s NOT far fetched even a LITTLE bit to assume something depraved like this took place… Have you NOT been following the case thus far Lol?? 🙄 Matter of fact, to NOT think something like this would be strange actually FFS!
@@MKUltra42Exactlyyyyy! Like how could one NOT run that scenario through their mind smdh?! So damn sad… 😢
In her first interview, Jen says 'we dropped her off', then changed it to 'he drove her"., a moment later. From the getgo folks...
I think that's so sad to be driving around with her in the car. My god, that is really sad.
I think the gate was open and he got a flat tire because he went in there to dispose of her body.
I think that's very possible also, and the second trip I think he went back to possibly look for tire impressions because with the flat tire he was probably panicking. And I think it's very possible also that he may have gone there to stage the body more. Something triggered him and he had to go back and my guess is Tire impressions. But I don't know
Me too! I’ve been trying to tell everyone the same thing!
I agree and I think he went back because he knew someone saw him there and was paranoid he left evidence behind
The gate was locked. Police had to contact the farmer and ask him to open the gate
Aww VINNIE we love what you are doing making noise for MADDIE!!!!! GODBLESS YOU VINNIE LETS KEEP ROARING UNTIL WE CANT ANYMORE 😢
How is she still walking free .. UNBELIEVABLE
I bet they are watching her. She’s not going anywhere. I think the police are really trying in this situation
Jenn Soto KNEW! There is no way that your boyfriend of 5+ years or whatever how long they were. She knew, you can’t just turn a blind eye and Madeline knew what was wrong and right at that time and I have a feeling she told her mother but her mother didn’t do anything.
I agree and I feel like he probably was not engaging with Jen sexually very often if at all. Jen was probably jealous and allowed what happened just to keep him from walking out or her life. It's so sickening.
I very strong the mother knew. But money was involved. R.I.P Maddeline. No more suffering for her. But yes that mom knew.
Again I agree Jenn absolutley knew ,This didnt happen once or twice ,This went on for years who did the laundry she seen something ,I believe jenn became jealous of poor Maddie and looked at her like she was the other woman
I adore Cody! Thanks for the tour and great coverage! 💕
I'm curious to know if the two roommate's that lived there with Jenn knew, saw, heard anything or felt weird around Stephan. I don't think Jenn was involved in her death, but she's responsible for sending her daughter off to sleep with a grown piece of crap. I feel like she should be charged with neglect something. I really think either Maddie was either going to tell on him or he got her pregnant, or she really faught him this last night.
What two roommates? I missed that? Where are they now and did they talk to them yet?
@wisdomislife8080 there were other adults living there renting rooms. In one of the arrest documents it stated that Jen sent Madeline and Steven to room #4 to sleep together.
@@wisdomislife8080 I'm not sure if they have made any statements. I personally haven't heard or read anything about it but I am curious to know what if anything they have said.
@@wisdomislife8080somebody said earlier in comments that they had been interviewed on you tube / TV. Im sure i have heard they were Air B n B’ers
There was a woman and her 14 year old son living in one of the rooms as renters.
Just catching the end , Vinnie. Love all you do in explaining and offering fair and honest views regarding these cases. Also, thanks so much for my frr month membership, deeply appreciated ❤❤!
Thanks for watching!
There has to be a reason for Stephen to have murdered Madeline that day. After years of getting away with abusing her, what made him hurt her that day...after her bday party...was Maddy going to out him? Did he accidentally kill her while abusing her? Or..and I know people hate to think this but did Madeline tell Stephen she was pregnant & he decided that she had to be silenced? It's hard to believe Stephen going to trial, but I truely hope we find answers to why this young girl was murdered.
I agree!!! What made him snap!? Why now!?
They would have known she was pregnant during the autopsy.
@@alexpriedite1447 Yes, but haven't the result been sealed? Only information that I know was given was the possible strangulation? Other then that I don't recall any news or channel getting the full autopsy results and going over all of the findings.
I think she was pregnant because as asked, why now? This went on for years ,what changed either she was pregnant ,something they eventually couldnt hide ,or she had a pregnancy scare....
@@ladyleo944 it's also possible she aged out... alot of pdf files have specific ages for the children they abuse. It's possible she was starting to develop past the point he wanted to abuse her. Idk.
R.I.P. Maddie😢❤
Why now ???!!
Maybe Madelian
" said I'm 13 now enough is enough " She found in powement !!!
God bless her soul
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Justice for Madeline!!!
Mother let him sleep with her daughter,how sick,being a guy I'd never sleep with a child that biological ain't even mine plus a young lady,so sad and god bless
She didnt even go to her own child's funeral!!!
Nuff said.
RIP MADDIE.I( read) said this " mother"gave this precious child's ashes to her Bio dad.
She obviously realised she had No right to act like a distraught grieving parent at finding out (if she didn't already know that is) what was happening right under her nose for years..
Rip Madeline 💔
Isnt weird that she wanted to live in the woods. And they find her dead in a wooded area. Is this why Stephen put her here because he new about her saying this?
NO! He is not that smart and I am glad you are not a detective 😂
No, I think he just put her out there because he was lazy. Remember he was having car trouble while he was trying to get rid of her body.
I know this is off topic but this guy, the reporter guy, is super HANDSOME. I’m bedazzled by his smile😊
How did he get her out of the house without anyone seeing him??? To many people in the house without anyone hearing or seeing …. It’s strange if you ask me….
Where are you getting there were ppl in the house? Maddie's family was out looking for her while she was missing. They were not at her house.
@@Play4keeks no your not reading right what I put hunnie ….. when Stephen hurt maddie after he did, how did he get her body out of the house without anyone seeing or hearing him?
Yes ur right there were others living in the house at the time... @@traceymott9795
I think Jenn was involved with Sterns in Maddie's murder. She doesn't act like a mother whose child is missing and then found dead. She was involved in some way besides telling them to leave her room and sleep together in another room. She is not a mother.
100% agree
Hi vinny ❤ thank u for sharing this story and justice always Laura from Arizona
Brief moment of levity in this video, 34:30 “turn it off for a second, cut the lights…. Where’d I go 👀” 😂😂😆
Kids will always open up to a good parent, a good parent always helps their kids, protects their kids. When my son was little, if someone distressed or hurt him, angry mumma bear just took over and I wanted answers and I wanted them yesterday. Jen soto is no parent.
The more I see about this case, the more questions I have for the mom...imo I really think she became in competition with her daughter and resentment filled her. I believe that Stephen groomed both mom and Madeline so he could control things. Idk if mom was privy to what he was doing to Madeline bc she was too busy competing and working and bc Madeline was groomed to most likely think Stephen loved her and the only one who understood her, she kept quiet and all the red flags that Stephen presented were ignored. Very tragic case. I pray Madeline is in peace.
The moms behavior throughout this screams guilty!
Once your wearing your cap back to front in ur 30s its only down hill from there
Jen needs to be charged, too. There is no way she didn't know. She allowed Stefan to sleep with her daughter.
Jennifer condoned it. 4:08
I heard you say earlier that mom can't be charged for allowing her daughter to sleep with Stephan Unless she knew something was happening. It's appalling to me that she couldn't be charged with at least negligence or neglect for allowing this behavior. That to me is crazy. Honestly, Vinnie , where is the justice for this child??? The same in the Read trial: I truly believe she accidentally hit John, yet John as well as the O'Keefe family are so lost in this madness of a trial.
Concerning the 2nd trip to the site:
It could be that Sterns told Jennifer to stay home in case Madeline shows up there and told her that he would go out and look for Madeline.
There going to do to Jenn the same thing they did to Nicole Kessinger, NOTHING. I really hope she doesn't get away with this. She deserves to be in jail.
This case breaks my heart so badly bc my daughter just turned 13 exactly a month after beautiful Maddie. My heart breaks for her bio father!❤
Great show! Thanks you all for your hard work!
This case has really got to my heart. I feel so sad for Madeline and I can imagine the agony and anxiety she must have felt and that was present in her mundset every single day.
By this case I also found a new side un my own personality. I suddenly realised that I didn't feel sorry for Stefan Sterns, in fact I think it serves him right to get the death penalty.
The way he/ they destroyed a young girls sexuality and violated her integrity, is never to be forgiven! Never!
That all this took place with Madeline's mother present makes it even more sickening! Two crazy adults that had found eatch other and ruined Madeline's young life and let her die.
Jen Soto better start talking soon. I don't hesitate beliving that Jen's involvment is an actual fact.
Thank you Cody!!!!
love your channel Vinnie great work
Cody is so good, he compliments VP very well ... knowledgeable, sharp and ready, that is what this channel is about, love it! Sooooo impressed while not easily impressed!
So sad. Its absolutely horrific.
Preach it, Vinnie! Jenn Soto knows WAY more than she’s telling! She’s guilty of neglect at the very least!
Where is Maddie family 😢 They all knew something wasn't right. Her grandmother said she had a lot of fears and was scared to sleep alone. She thought that was alright 🤬
*Maddie's
There's actually an interview that they did with some of the family members talking about you know her weird behavior how they thought this was weird or that was weird but they honestly seemed completely unaffected by all of this. Especially her biological Father's side.
Did he change clothes from Holiday Inn to Hickory Tree Road? The eye witness who saw him changing the tire said a dark or black shirt, and a green hat…right? Not a red shirt that was caught on camera at the resort.
Do you think she was pregnant
THAT HAS CROSSED MY MIND TOO
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That or he knew she was ready to tell.
wenn Madeline schwanger war, wurde das doch sicher bei der Obduktion festgestellt
They would have found out during autopsy.
AND as far as the drive at 3am to the dump site, he wanted to see if her body was found, and he was driving by to see any police lights or commotion etc., THAT is why he drove there overnight- to check to see if she has been located. It's obvious! It's he same reason Kolberger drove by the campus house the next morning and the same reason why Wendy Adelson drove by Martels street- to check n the crime scene to see if it's been discovered yet. They need to put me on the show. sheeeezzzz.
But I'd think hed be more scared of actualy being seen in that area....
to the owner of the field... fortunately in this tragedy this gate was open and he had a flat tyres.....Because he put her there fast and she could be found quickly... as well as evidence on her.
You can read in Madeline's eyes and face... that something Going on . She looks sad and suffering in there.
That was my first thought when I saw the pictures and she was missing ...and Stern ...I watched his interviews and something made me feel extremely uncomfortable and creepy...
I hope and im sure he never comes out ....i hope for the death penalty
*had a flat tire
there's no logical reason why her egg donor wasnt arrested. that isnt a mother
Wouldn't come out until trial as she's a minor I think there is laws against that in FL
Absolutely She is Not a Mother
If not for Jennifer Soto none of this could have ever happened the plain truth of this matter .
He purposely had a flat so if the cops stop him or a " witness" seen him on that rolled pulled over , that was his excuse.. he definitely is familiar with that area... I'm sorry Madeline for all your struggles😢😢😢😢
Mom cant seem to even fake a tear for her murdered child; suspicious
Is it possible that Madeline was really left at that site at 3:30 in the morning, vs at 1:30 pm the day before?
I think he drove through the open gate all the way to the thick brush/trees. In reverse. That would have given him the best coverage from the road.
I think he put her body somewhere else during that first day. I think he drove out on that country road to find a place to dump her - found the place when he had to pull over and change his tire. Then that next early morning 3:00ish he took Jenn's car, picked up the body and then drove out to the dump site to leave her. It would be extremely dark and very few cars, if any, at that time of day. I think that is why the cadaver dog hit on Jenn's car when they tested it. It just so happened that someone driving by that day saw him changing the tire and remembered the incident. There was a time gap between when he moved her to his trunk and when he was picked back up on road cameras after 12:00 that day - where was he and what was he doing?? Hiding the body?? Then went on the drive out to the final dump site early next morning??
Can it be that Madeline's mother killed her, and Stern's help to get rid of the body. Maybe the mother got upset with Madeline and the mother's head hooked out, and she struggled Madeline??? The way that Stern's mother said that Stern's must not take all the blame and speak to his lawyer.
So extremely SAD
Either he didn't like that she was growing up, she ended up pregnant by the monster or she started menstruating and he was scared of getting her pregnant or she threatened to say something.
There is no way Jen had no idea this was happening. She is just as guilty and handed her child over to a preditor on a silver platter.
I hope she is arrested soon.
Great job. this was awesome for visual
Where is the mother? Obviously in hiding...is she watching any of these videos? Is her family watching and telling her what is being said or thought about her? Just something I have wondered about since none of these videos I follow about this case have mentioned anyone spotting her at all......
Where was Madeliene's mother when he was taking her daughter's body out of the house to the car?? She must have known her daughter was dead at that point because she said she saw her getting ready for school!!
First of all, i was like, „woah! What a voice!!“ the moment he spoke. 😁
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