FX Panthera reinforcing the front rail.

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  • @MLucasFTW
    @MLucasFTW 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Wait - what? A reinforcing rail on a £1800 gun?? That's pretty unacceptable in my book when coupled with the barrel issue (and subsequent replacement) and dodgy magazines. How would someone without access to expensive machinery and the requisite skills be able to correct these issues? FX need to give their heads a wobble.

    • @IvanIgnath
      @IvanIgnath 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      All those "FX youtubers" must cost something... This airgun channel is like a miracle today.

    • @philmoran5898
      @philmoran5898 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Couldn’t agree more. Said this for a while and totally put me off even considering one

    • @Tim_Bassett
      @Tim_Bassett 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Whilst I agree in principal, is it really any different than sending a brand new Annie to zenith or ratworks? Or the new XTI to Nick for a time up. All production rifles can be made better with focussed upgrades.
      If you don’t want to do anything to a brand new rifle, the redwolf is pretty much the only choice.

    • @Shady-UK
      @Shady-UK 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wish I knew all this before purchasing one myself :(

    • @MLucasFTW
      @MLucasFTW 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Tim_Bassett There's 'tuning' and there's correcting significant design flaws. Of which there should be zero on a £1.8K rifle. So yes, it is quite different.

  • @vincentsmith8328
    @vincentsmith8328 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hey Geoff...don't have a panthera...don't know at this point why its rail might want reinforcing...but Im here watching again..and enjoying your vid again nevertheless!??😁👍

    • @vincentsmith8328
      @vincentsmith8328 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only I had all this machinery...or at least access to it!😁

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you and i am glad you enjoy them 😁

  • @danbrown6255
    @danbrown6255 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I cant believe the issues youre having with such an expensive rifle its lucky youve got the tools and skill to put things right and give the rest of us an honest view of the rifle top marks for the channel as always maybe FX airguns should sit down for some lessons

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for watching👍 we are just showing what we find with our one, i would like to think we have been unlucky and there's not to many like this out there but i am not so sure 🙄

  • @philbate5555
    @philbate5555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very successful upgrade jake.
    These manufacturers would benefit from giving you and dad there new rifles to test and sort out before they launch them , can't wait to see what you find inside the block . Great upgrade 👌

  • @DeadShotSherman
    @DeadShotSherman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You boys are absolutely dominating the air gun world. Fantastic work fellas. Always a pleasure to shoot with you on Saturdays 😎

  • @lisawood516
    @lisawood516 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be nice to think that the big companies are taking note on this channel that is not endorsed by anyone. It is a good, honest impartial overview in my opinion and hats off to them that they are not interested in getting something for nothing - more that they can show you what a gun can be like and what they think of it so you can make an informed decision on whether to buy it or not. Also, I think some of the ideas are genius.... as I say, just my opinion. Keep it up boys!!!

  • @dgg7377
    @dgg7377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting video as always Jake!

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks for watching Dave 😀

  • @martinhart1798
    @martinhart1798 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stunning work as ever Jake ,I cannot believe how much better this rifle is now after shooting it the first day you got it.

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you will have to have another go with it now mate SS loaded it is pretty good now 😁😁

  • @bashm5767
    @bashm5767 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great idea, excellent results👍🏼

  • @redgum1340
    @redgum1340 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can clearly see that when you guys come out with your own pcp rifle, it's going to be a beauty.

  • @johndanville6643
    @johndanville6643 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My god your skills are second to none. I wish I could do that, I need a lathe in my life,.and thanks for the advice you gave me I really appreciate it. Brilliant video again. Can't wait for the next..

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you glad you enjoy them 😀

    • @johndanville6643
      @johndanville6643 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sub12airgunners always my friend always!

    • @johndanville6643
      @johndanville6643 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sub12airgunners I'm not to sure about the panthera for all that cash it's a lot of pissing about. Not to bad if you're you!!

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johndanville6643 no it's not great but i do think the barrel was a bit unlucky 😁😁

    • @johndanville6643
      @johndanville6643 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sub12airgunners really because I was thinking about getting one on layaway from duncans gun shop.i just didn't want an expensive headache is all, many thanks, your channel is the dogs nuts. 👌

  • @VikingAirgunner
    @VikingAirgunner 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this idea 🙂
    I just finished a similar project and the gun feels more stabile all ready. My rail is not nearly a prof made as yours, but still it works.
    Best regards
    Peter

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that's great any help you can give the front rail helps 👍

  • @tonyrebelo3038
    @tonyrebelo3038 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats quite an eye opener Jake! I should be used to your magic by now, but you never fail to amaze me! 😊

  • @Tim_Bassett
    @Tim_Bassett 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice work - would be interesting to see how it compares with a flat plate and front rest over the bipod. The groups are coming along nicely - looking forward to the rest of the journey.

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks for watching Tim 👍

  • @casperboo5465
    @casperboo5465 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More great work Jeff, always a great watch, luv the the things you do, top notch work Cheers 👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @three-phase562
    @three-phase562 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of your less complicated machining job and looks to have worked quite well. You have certainly managed to get hold of a temperamental beast in this one! 😃😃

    • @mrsensibletimewastingarrog4185
      @mrsensibletimewastingarrog4185 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Typical FX, but as long as sheep are willing to pay the price and think that needing to tune it to make it accurate is a bonus, why would they change?

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes this one is making us work for it 😁 but it's showing promise now

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i have had 12 /13 fx rifles now, some have been great out of the box and some not so good and it's not good but i think a lot of manufactures are the same now lots of people buy a r10 or hw100 and send them to ratworks to get them tuned

  • @neilyoung7373
    @neilyoung7373 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    His rifle must have been made out of ply wood mines just beyond accurate AND precise

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes it's a real shame we must have got a real lemon, everyone that has shot it says how nice it is, it's just a shame you cant hit nothing with it🙄 but it is getting there now and will end up good that for sure

    • @neilyoung7373
      @neilyoung7373 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sub12airgunners well I certainty hope some of these adaptions will arrive at bagnel and kirkwood if not I would be very interested in a private sale of such innovative ideas?

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neilyoung7373 anything that we can make that's cost effective will end up with Richard at B & K 😀😀

  • @AshF1
    @AshF1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Superb work 👌🏼

  • @leec8592
    @leec8592 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An excellent modification to the Panthera

  • @MrJamesThekat
    @MrJamesThekat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! You should definitely look into manufacturing these reinforcement plate and custom barrel. I myself dont have acces or skills for high level machinery and would be a great client. Im sure im not the only one in the market! Thx for the vid

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching 😀

  • @IvanIgnath
    @IvanIgnath 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wobbly rail is maybe on purpose, so FX or Saber Tactical can sell upgrade parts later. Same business model as with Impact. Correction - there is $325 panthera rail from Saber Tactical....

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yes i think your correct , that has always got me with the impact the front pic rail ext and butt pad should come standard with an impact IMO🙄 thanks for watching and taking the time to comment 👍

    • @tyrantwitness2482
      @tyrantwitness2482 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Contacted SabreTactical to see if they could find a solution to attach a sling to the front of my FX Dreamline Elite ST, since they forgot about prone shooting! Totally useless! They are very proud of the QD swivel mounting they built into the butt stock! Till I pointed out they are totally useless without a front mount.

  • @marouaneladjel1907
    @marouaneladjel1907 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Exceptional thank you

  • @soderlind81
    @soderlind81 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Changing the barrel, make reinforcing rail. MAG issues. I feel FX rushed this hyped-up "PSR" rifle!?
    I would be one mad owner if I bought one and had these issues.
    That a side I really enjoy your videos no-matter what you are up to 👌😀

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you and thanks for watching 😀

  • @johndanville6643
    @johndanville6643 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you please tell me all the difference between a fac and sud 12 m3,I'm just interested and your the man.

  • @Sae-fu5ch
    @Sae-fu5ch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Getting there boys 😁
    Blimey for the next generation PRS dedicated rifle she certainly needs some work 😆😆😆😆

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂 yes mate but to be fair we are a bit picky 🤣

  • @chrisfigueroa3361
    @chrisfigueroa3361 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video great work 👍🏻 but like i said before it sucks that you had to add all these parts , and different barrel to get the gun to shoot consistent thanks for sharing be safe buddy 👍🏻

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it is a bit much to be honest, thanks for watching 😀

  • @juusooinasmaa4781
    @juusooinasmaa4781 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi! I was wondering what is the width of the reinforcing steel or the maximun width indside the rail. Also If you happen to know inside width of the saber tactical one since it's a bit wider and I'm wonderin if either one could be fitted to my existing chassis. I also couldn't find any photos or videos showing the male part of the Panthera body which goes inside the rail and dimensions of it. Thanks if you can help!

    • @juusooinasmaa4781
      @juusooinasmaa4781 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Found a video including the support block (part number A24), now I'm only wondering the width of the support block, and screw spacing between the two bolts going to panthera's body. Thanks!

  • @Marcus1954s
    @Marcus1954s 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you consider slightly bending the steel reinforcement in order to create a tension and help nullify vibration?

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i didn't think of that i may have a go and see if it make any difference great idea 👍

    • @user-pb1ut9rz8l
      @user-pb1ut9rz8l 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sub12airgunners Maybe the same approach on the barrel would help 😉. That gun when you have finished will be Triggers broom on steroids (a confusing comment for your non-uk followers !)

  • @bosstaki
    @bosstaki 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi mate! I thinking of getting a moderator for my .177 Fx maverick! What would you recommend! Your videos rock mate! Keep up the good work!!!!!

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the fx ones are pretty good for what they are and the Donny FL is nice for the looks the Weihrauch is the one to go for to make it quiet 😀

  • @paulspeller968
    @paulspeller968 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice job and definitely seem to tighten up them groups. i don’t have to tell you those mags are crap for sure . not seen one yet that is good even when you wind the spring tension off still inconsistent. good single shot loader 1 definitely shoots better 2 you don’t blow through 500 pellets in an hour 🤣🤣🤣win win situation

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes it's pretty easy to load in to the breach on the panthera and you can see the groups get better, thanks for watching 👍

  • @Lee_Blenkinsopp
    @Lee_Blenkinsopp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was the reinforcing bar SS or aluminium, fantastic video again 👍

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it was ground steel makes the gun feel great on the bench 😀

  • @gallantone1535
    @gallantone1535 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope some of FX reps etc see this and make the effort of getting what you should expect for that sort of money these can't be made in someone garage pull your finger out FX.l got an fx impact MK2 and I rate it but I will not be buying any of these products,yet another excellent video 👍

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks for watching 😀

  • @pisserny
    @pisserny 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would lov to rock that for added weight on mine.

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes it does make it very stable 😁

  • @sonan7216
    @sonan7216 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good day

  • @mrsensibletimewastingarrog4185
    @mrsensibletimewastingarrog4185 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It seems to me that twist equals cant. How could that not affect point of impact?

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes i think you are correct 😀

  • @tyrantwitness2482
    @tyrantwitness2482 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FX magazines definitely don't like wadcutters! Hades are fine but forget using S100 JSBs!

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes ss loading is the way to go at the moment

  • @robslaphead
    @robslaphead 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dame it 30th I'm away and was hoping to get to the bootsale, I have a fx impact m3 and man I have been having problem after problem with it. Shop shop give money back as its been over the 12 month period even tho it has a 3 year warrenty with it only used the Gun 3 times if that taken back once

  • @2speed818
    @2speed818 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video, just me I guess but for the price the gun should be a shooter without all the extra work you have done . Still one of my favorite channels 👍

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you and i agree this is sold as a target rifle and our one was not that at all 🙄 but it is getting there now 😀

  • @POINTSOFAIMcheekyscouser
    @POINTSOFAIMcheekyscouser 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi..pm..H & N 8s..my vid will be out before 22.00 hrs ta

  • @Roy-ph6xy
    @Roy-ph6xy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And width please..

  • @Roy-ph6xy
    @Roy-ph6xy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thickest of steel bar please...

  • @jeffhello1444
    @jeffhello1444 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😀😀😉😉

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you and thanks for watching

  • @OriginalMarkyBoy
    @OriginalMarkyBoy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Send it back get a refund 👍🏽
    Please Send my love to the old man 😊🐒✌🏼

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂 Dad says Hello 👍👍

  • @paulcarruthers1314
    @paulcarruthers1314 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Turning into Trigger’s broom lol😂. Everyone at our range using FX have bought Eagle vision mags. FX ones are so poor

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes the FX ones have never been good 😀

  • @UnCoolDad
    @UnCoolDad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You shouldn't have to "sort out" such an expensive rifle.

    • @sub12airgunners
      @sub12airgunners  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no i agree it's not good