Self Propelled Not Working On Toro Personal Pace LawnMower?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- If your self propelled is not working on your Toro Personal Pace Push Lawn Mower it could be either the self propelled drive belt or the cable could be frozen if the mowers been out in the weather for extended period of time. Of course the wheels could be stripped or Transmission could be bad too. I don't cover those in this video.
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WTF was Toro thinking? Square head screws? I've got a pretty damned decent home shop and I've never needed square head tools in 60 years, Thank god for Amazon. Or Jeff B.
Also, I'm pretty sure I had a Personal Pace mower for a few years that had all this accessible from the top. It had an aluminum deck, maybe that was the difference.
I understand... Im not a fan of square head screws. I do like Torx, they don't strip out as easy...
My toro which I love so much has the opposite issue. The self propel will not disengage! Thinking of following your tutorial just to ensure no gunk is blocking anything. Have you ever encountered this?!
Yes there could be some grass built up and it's causing it to not release all the way... Definitely work looking at. Did you replace the belt recently? A short belt would cause that too..
Ok, here is some critical information, for those of us, with an electric/pull start system, and the black battery box on the deck of the mower. Ok, YES, there is a bolt underneath the box. But, it is towards the back of the mower, and you will see a slightly raised section of the box, that does not touch the deck, but sit's above it, about 1/4-3/8". The bolt you have to access is, literally in that notch, towards the backside of the black box/mower. And, I have found, that the box is riveted to the deck. So, for full access, you will have to rip the box off of the top of the deck, revealing 2 of the 3 bolts, as the 2nd bolt is, along the left side of the black battery box, just underneath the side front corner. But, if you are able to remove all of the plastic covers off of the back, including the flapper, for the bag. As, the top of the flapper for the bag hatch, is literally what has you blinded from seeing the bolt in the first place, besides the battery box itself. And, since I can't start it with the key anymore(Long story short, the cable harness was ripped out of the key starter switch, and ruined it), so it's pretty useless to me, at the moment. So, I decided to just rip the black box itself off. Which, made it much more simpler to access all 3 bolt's, for the plastic belt guard underneath. Also, it is a good idea to take a plastic bag(Walmart bags will do fine), and use it underneath the gas cap, by taking the cap off, then draping the bag(Double layer, by using whole bag) over the open hole, then screw the cap back on, and you now have a sealed gas cap, from leaking...
TYSM for all that info! Someone will undoubtedly be able to benefit from it... 😊
Thank you, I was just able to fix my self propelled using your video. I am now subscribed. Thanks for helping an old retired guy with his budget.
Thanks for the sub! So glad I was able to help you get your mower back up and running... 😊
@@JLPicard440 hello...i put new carb ..started..worked fine.....changed belt and cable.....now it recoil bad.....when i pull, cord go back...why?..(what is this called?) ..how to fix this issue?
Did you hit something? The engine could be out of time.... the valve lash could be out of tolerance...
Did you hit something? The engine could be out of time.... the valve lash could be out of tolerance...
My new belt was the same size of the of the old belt,looked big to me at anyrate once installed and adjusted it lasted about 2 hr. and back to no front wheel drive.
Arrgh! Did it break again?
@@JLPicard440 no negative it seemed to spin on the pulley
OOH! So either the transmission is not transferring power to the wheels or it might be broken. Don't try this with the engine running! weight down the handle so it stays on the ground and the mower is up in the air. REMOVE the spark plug wire from the spark plug and move it away from the spark plug (and make sure it stays away). Then put a clamp (or tie a string) on both handles to squeeze them into the self propelled position so you can spin the blade by hand. See what's turning... if the axle shaft is turning then the engine then your transmission is fine and it's in the wheels.
Now mines will engage when I squeeze my handles belt spinning and everything but my tires not moving, what would cause this problem?
HI... if you flip the mower on it's side (Muffler side down/ piston at top dead center) and remove the spark plug... Can you squeeze the handle and see the cable pulling the transmission and tightening the belt? Ive seen some mowers get clogged up with grass so the transmission won't engage... Also take a look at the axle shafts while you're turning the engine by hand... are they turning? It'll only be a little bit... If the engine is turning and the transmission is engaged, but the axles aren't turning, then you might have a transmission problem... I wouldn't go there just yet though.
How would I know if it's a cable issue? I took the machine apart and the belt looks fine. Mower is only about 3 years old and only used on my house, not commercial use. Just isn't self propelling. Good video, btw.
You can physically turn the transmission to see if the wheels engage (obviously with the mower off!)... I don't remember if this one has a lever on the transmission or not to engage it, I'd have to go back through the video to see if I see that. Some do, some just engage when the transmission is pulled back by the cable. If the transmission is working fine, then it has to be either the cable or the belt..
I have exactly same issue but on the electric recycler model. Is everything on the drive and belt the same as petrol??
@@jc238 HI, I would guess "probably" but I haven't actually worked on one of those, so I can't say for sure.
VERY efficient, compared to other videos that take more off.
TYSM for the great feedback... 😀
Agreed!
Disconnecting the cable from the handle bar first would have saved me valuable time! 👏👏👏👏
Great tip!... 😊
I put a new belt and it has a good cable on my 2010 personal pace..still will not move the mower and the cable is tight..
Please see my other response... 😊
Super helpful, very clear. Thank you!
You're welcome! So glad I was able to help.. 😊
Totally awesome thank you I really appreciate it I got this lawn mower for 25 bucks clean the carburetor out and it's got great compression and I think she's going to be a gem❤🎉😊
That's a great buy for that mower! So glad you got it going.. Youre welcome.. 😊
I watched your video and saw how I can remove the top cap of that area. I cleaned it out of all of the debris that was clogging it and I put it back on and my lawn mower started self-propelling on its own just because it was so dirty and clogged it had stopped working. ❤ thank you so much for your video even though I didn't have to go in the Great Lengths that your video showed.
That's excellent! I have seen those things get clogged with debris and stop working. Great find.. 😊
Thanks for the video! Very clear and concise. Don’t know if it was my belt or the cable, but I replaced the belt anyway and tinkered with the cable some. Either way, the self propellant works again!
That's awesome! SO glad you got it working again... 😊
Thank you for an in-depth step by step explanation of how to change the drive belt Had the same problem with my mower and followed your directions from start to finish and was delighted because it felt like it was brand new machine.
That's awesome! SO glad i was able to help... 😊
Mine has, new cable, gears, tires, and belt. Spins tires with it off the ground but doesn’t do anything once they touch the ground.
No one I talk to seems to know why.
HI! I would disconnect the belt and manually turn the transmission pulley by hand with the wheels on the ground. See if you feel slippage inside the transmission. It's difficult to diagnose something like that without being able to see it.. Some mowers have a lever where the cable engages to actually engage the transmission. IF yours does, then make sure that lever is engaged when you do the test.
Great video.
TYSM! I really appreciate it.. 😊
Great video
TYSM! I really appreciate it.
Thanks for the video, lam going to try and replace my belf
You're welcome! It's pretty easy on this one... 😊
Great explanation! I switched my cable out but it doesn’t engage when I push the pace bar forward…but when I pull all the way back on the pace bar it goes forward?!? Any ideas?
It sounds like the cable is pulling in the wrong direction. If you know how to properly turn the mower on it's side (so you don't get oil in the muffler (carburetor up and piston at TDC on compression stroke)) so you can see what's going on, push the pace bar forward and see if the cable is loose... If so, it's probably in the wrong hole somewhere down the line. Meaning it's pushing instead of pulling. I'm just guessing though.
@@JLPicard440 I ended up with that same result and noticed I connected the top of the cable to the metal bar that shuts off the mower. The metal bar has a hole on both sides of the handle so I automatically thought it went there when it goes on the plastic piece under the handle bar like he shows in the video.
Great info! I'm sure someone will find it useful. Thank you for posting it.
Well done! Thanks. You got right to the point, much appreciated.
Excellent! Thanks for the great input and feedback... 😊
Thanks I think this will help me. I replaced the drive belt but the self propelled is alway engaged. I will see in the morning.
Oh wow... is the new belt to short?
@@JLPicard440 No, I just needed to adjust the tension. I got the front mowed this morning.
@@candicabaniss2560 Oh excellent! Yes that would do it too... 😊 Glad you got it going.
You have a fantastic microphone.
TYSM! I really appreciate it.
My toro isnt engaging either the rod is missing the gear so the wheels wont spin am i missing a part
HI Owen! without being able to see it I can't tell if you have a part missing. You might be able to go to www.partstree.com and plug in your model number. From there you'll be able to see the parts breakdown and compare it with what you've got to see if it looks like anything is missing..
@@JLPicard440 thanks man
@@Owen-The-Cowboy You're welcome!
Still not moving.
Cable moves the transmission and has new belt, but still won't move
So if the cable is engaging the lever on the transmission, there could be a problem either at the wheel being stripped or the transmission itself. Take off the wheels and see if the small gear that engages with the wheels is turning.
Thanks alot for the video. It was a big help!
You're welcome! So glad to help.. 😊
The belt on my mower is loose how do I make it tighter? Does that knob also control the tension on the belt
HI, yes a lot of times on a push mower there is an adjustment wheel... I don't remember on this particular one, but a lot of them have that...
@JLPicard440 on my mower there is a knob on the left hand side that adjusts the self propel cable. I'm thinking that also adjusts the tension on the belt because the cable connects to the spring on the pulley system
Oh absolutely... If it's a cable adjustment, then yes that will tighten / loosen the belt...
@JLPicard440 when you do that should you have the mower engine on or off
@@bradbarthold1278 I would start out with it off... You'll feel the belt tension in the handle when you squeeze it.
Well illustrated repair. This should be enough info to get started. I’ll let you know if it works for me. Thanks
You're welcome! So glad to help..
Big thanks. Easy to follow instructions.
You're welcome! So glad it helped..
Subbed!
TYSM! I really appreciate it..