How To Fix A BROKEN Axis Lock (Replacing Omega Springs)

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  • @bdh3949
    @bdh3949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Jeff, a trick I learned when assembling something under tension is to use a gallon food storage baggie. You can still see everything and you can cut a hole in another side if you need to insert both hands and tape or zip the ends shut for extra security and when things pop around they are auto-captured. I've worked on a couple of auto-knives, trigger springs, anything with detent springs, and even small scale springs that fling about 100 feet if left without a capture device.

    • @OnAirVoice
      @OnAirVoice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great idea! I had a guide spring for a Glock 43 that flew off somewhere to someplace...I never found it.

    • @unknownmenace1957
      @unknownmenace1957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OnAirVoice The whole guide spring? Did it go to some alternate dimension? Though it does feel like springs have that ability. First revolver I opened a tiny spring went flying, miraculously I found it.

    • @caseG80
      @caseG80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depending on floor surface I’ve had great luck finding small parts with magnets

  • @jojojeep1
    @jojojeep1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m going through that now I waited a month for a knife blade, I learn my lesson friend I used to by omega Springs online like the ones you got and a very nice there stiffer,Then I learned to make them out of 22 gauge memory wire so for three dollars I can make about 50 pairs of springs maybe more and that’s what I’ve been using a work beautiful

  • @clarklindquist8137
    @clarklindquist8137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You made that look easy. Thanks for showing how difficult it can be and how frustrating it can be.
    Another awesome video.

  • @ronniesuburban
    @ronniesuburban 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember when I did this and my experience was similarly frustrating. But, like you, I finally got it done and felt like I actually learned some useful stuff in the process. But more than anything else, I learned that next time, I'll just send it back to Benchmade!

  • @gwagwa76
    @gwagwa76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    lol why am I watching this when I don’t have the knife 😂

    • @cutlerylover
      @cutlerylover  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Its for all Axis lock knives so it can be helpful :)

    • @stevenlachance8576
      @stevenlachance8576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pure entertainment any vid with a spring has potential for comedic moments

    • @Happyland_Motel_Gamer_Cat
      @Happyland_Motel_Gamer_Cat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here, i am interested maybe to get a Benchmade.

  • @MylesTheSmokerThebeast77_Epic
    @MylesTheSmokerThebeast77_Epic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started watching your channel back when I got into zippos I loved all your trick videos and I’ve always liked your video style keep up the good work

  • @TarmanTheChampion
    @TarmanTheChampion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My spring on my 940 broke after 18 years & it broke because I dropped it on concrete with flinging force (accidently) and it landed perfectly on the very tip! The tip didn't even have a scratch!

  • @razorviking607
    @razorviking607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! I have a couple benchmades myself and this is super helpful!

  • @birdbro1990
    @birdbro1990 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Bought my 940 in 2017, finally need to replace these.

  • @Nordraw
    @Nordraw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They make a great little tool for assembly of Benchmade knives. Works great.

  • @guitarzarfun
    @guitarzarfun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know why people have such anxiety about broken omega springs. I've had 1 break on my old 2001 mini grip once and it didn't affect the lock in any way at all. I bent a new spring, popped it in, done! I find it reassuring having something which i can literally fabricate myself in a matter of minutes. If they broke once a year (which they won't) would be totally worth it just for the strength, ease of use , speed of deployment and fidget factor of the Axis lock. Like having a Ferrari that you can maintain yourself for peanuts. What's not to love?!

  • @AxleKlown
    @AxleKlown 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 940-1 it is a great knife design light weight and great for many edc tasks

  • @twiceborn_by_grace
    @twiceborn_by_grace 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed this video. It reminded of the video you did of a blade swap of an orange and black griptilian.

  • @thegonger1
    @thegonger1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jeff, I just sent my Mini Grip back to Benchmade. My springs were also broken and I asked if they would ship me the springs and they would not. So I sent it up to them. I am currently waiting to hear back from them to let me know if I have to pay for any services, I requested blade centering which the blade was never centered when I got it and a black thumbstud instead of a silver one and a pocket clip. Hopefully I hear from them soon but in the meantime I have plenty of other blades to carry. Keep up the videos and good work!

  • @knifeaddict1014
    @knifeaddict1014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video tho!! First time seeing a 940 completely apart thanks for that

  • @user-gn6fc5jf4w
    @user-gn6fc5jf4w หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. If this happens to me, I’ll be taking advantage Benchmade’s awesome warranty policy. Just a note, the pocket clip screws are the longer screws.

  • @KorieG
    @KorieG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Jeffrey! And, I STILL Love you after all of these years! Congrats brother! Keep the videos coming! :) Later...

  • @mt_baldwin
    @mt_baldwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This right here is why in the great "axis vs compression" lock debate the comp lock wins imo. Yes I know there's going to be someone that says they've had their 940 for 22 years and nothing broke. I have a bugout that broke after 5-6 months of rotated carry, probably 30 days of actual carry. Now every axis lock knife I have (11 total) feels like it's on a count down every time I open and close it. The same goes for assisted knives, I've had a few of those springs break.

    • @cutlerylover
      @cutlerylover  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ive never had an axis lock break...I have owned many haha

  • @RockyMountainBlades
    @RockyMountainBlades 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know what’s strange, I’ve done a bit of looking around and haven’t seen really any models other than the 940 variants and the Bugout variants springs breaking. I’ve got several mini-Griptillians and one is from my grandpa who used it for 6 years or so and still feels fine and not like it’s going to break.

  • @M_bomb
    @M_bomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I no that feeling.i was swaping out a hammer spring in my fireman bam pops out and I wanted to pull my hair out lol.great tutorial

  • @wis1024
    @wis1024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Save time and avoid the possibility of losing it in the mail. I put a ganzo spring in my 940, just bend em a bit because they can be really stiff but I've never had a ganzo spring break but I've had several benchmades break

    • @Joshuamorris256
      @Joshuamorris256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where can you get the hanzo springs?

  • @OLMmedic
    @OLMmedic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your the best jeff

  • @ThomasConnolly
    @ThomasConnolly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeff, if I received a used/broken Benchmade Osborne 940 I would have cleaned the knife a lot better after disassembling it as well as cleaning/polishing the phosphor bronze washers. Also, I would have properly oiled the pivot area/washers with nano oil before reassembly!!! I'm not sure what springs you bought/used in the repair, but there are after market springs for the Osborne 940 that are much better than Benchmade's omega springs.

  • @ske1ator
    @ske1ator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There a company making pivot alignment tools for benchmades. There showed them on metal complex and Zacks stuffs channel. They looked super helpful

  • @fakestreamedia5309
    @fakestreamedia5309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thx for video , mine broke within two weeks, crazy, yes I fidget a lot , but still . Do you know if it voids the warranty to fix it yourself?

  • @shadowcastyt
    @shadowcastyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got a 943 backspacer..... I’ve been considering doing that mod

  • @Tri_Nitro
    @Tri_Nitro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering how the axis lock springs looked after my Sanremu EL-02B started developing blade play when folded and overall lost most of tension on the lock. Looks like I worn it out by playing with the knife too much. And here I was hoping I found the right locking mechanism for me. Well, time to return to fixed blades

  • @frakismaximus3052
    @frakismaximus3052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    For all of it's niftyness, the axis lock seems like a pretty damn weak lock that would break without much trouble

    • @blindmelonlemonjello
      @blindmelonlemonjello 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not unless you wildy flip the lock all day with any spring it will weaken if heated

    • @malifor2210
      @malifor2210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Once the the two springs broke on my 940, I lost most of my trust in it. It's probably my fault because I fidget too much but that's one Achilles heel I will never get over with BM. I have more faith in my Spyderco Para 3 and or any other locking systems.

    • @m1henry
      @m1henry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hear this all the time but have never experienced it on my 5 axis lock knives. Not one spring breakage and have one that is over 10 years old.

    • @blindmelonlemonjello
      @blindmelonlemonjello 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@m1henry I had one break just using it after 6 years of daily use but BM told me the original springs were weaker. I have the mini grip 501. They replaced them. Told my the put the updated springs. I cannot see any difference.

    • @cutlerylover
      @cutlerylover  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I literally never had one break...Ive used probably over 100 knives with them...

  • @cameronchicken8439
    @cameronchicken8439 ปีที่แล้ว

    so i got the m4 version and it felt really gritty right out of the box and had a lot of lock stick so to took it apart and noticed a lot that could be better. the liners/housing for the axis lock has a rough surface so the edges of all of the holes are sharp to the touch and the rough surface adds to this almost like serrations so i polished the flat surfaces with a strop and inside the where the axis lock rides i had the perfect aluminum oxide 5000 grit sharper for sharpening blade serrations whic fit perfectly so i smoothed that out. i think with how rough that whole area is what causes these springs to wear out. but that wasn’t the worst of it. the hole for the pivot was so sharp and jagged that it was destroying my washers and the surface of the blade tang behind the washers had super aggressive machining lines but beyond that it was also very pitted. the surface that the other side of the washer rests against was also rough and the entire surface of the tang that the lock rides against was pitted and rough and the lock bar itself was rough. also the pivot itself is “D” shaped and the shoulders of the flat part of the “D” shape was rough because of machining lines. i polished all of that out and now it’s much smoother and zero lock stick…. i have two budget chinese axis style knives each cost exactly $50 and neither have any of those issues but my american made $200 benchmade had zero quality control.

  • @vikingfury2065
    @vikingfury2065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How long have you had your 940 and how many times have you had to replace the springs?

  • @jpolhamus71
    @jpolhamus71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey that looks familiar I have the same lowes torx driver set

  • @thomash.4501
    @thomash.4501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like my Benchmade 940 a lot but is it so common that this springs just break? I got me some omega springs too. Better to have them and never use them instead of needing them and not have them. Great job Jeff. Keep the good work up and the best for you and your wife.

    • @shadowcastyt
      @shadowcastyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve had a few axis lock knives and personally have never had a problem.... I’d say an omega spring failure is a pretty uncommon problem but it does happen once in a while

    • @nothanks3980
      @nothanks3980 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      mine broke within a month of purchase. very disappointed. i feel like a shmuck for paying almost 200 for this knife.

  • @danofiremano
    @danofiremano ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had and owned several BM Knives over the years and luckily have never had an Omega Spring issue.
    I'm wondering if they just had a big bad batch come in & didn't know it until it was too late?!?

  • @clintonlewis1261
    @clintonlewis1261 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That would definitely drive me crazy 😜

  • @wflo77
    @wflo77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    will the bm940 springs work on the sog terminus xr?

  • @terryboylstein472
    @terryboylstein472 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a custom 940 with gold hardware. Recommend doing the gold axis lock or leave it? Debating if it's worth the trouble

  • @Gman1024
    @Gman1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't have the talent, which is why I just crc spray the gunk and relube, rather than disassembling.
    Thanks for sharing this, good info.

  • @FeastOvGoreglutton
    @FeastOvGoreglutton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mines had a broken spring for about 3 years now, I just ordered some new springs.

  • @juanarmendariz8450
    @juanarmendariz8450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice

  • @undergroundexplorer8378
    @undergroundexplorer8378 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Freaking hate when the springs go flying! LOL! Best to keep the knife under some kind of clear plastic covering while you’re inserting the springs to keep that happening.

  • @jacobstout9769
    @jacobstout9769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't mind taking knives apart... Benchmade axis lock knives are the exception. Well any Benchmade really, those liner screws are so small. Though having very fine tweezers have helped.

  • @Hazel-the-Amazon
    @Hazel-the-Amazon ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a benchmede for the last 5 years. I carry it everyday, and last week noticed the flop . I was going to send it to them, but was wondering if I could fix it. I guess I can,

  • @knifenoob5411
    @knifenoob5411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own 2 Benchmade axis lock knives, Bugout, mini grip. Had to send Bugout back 3 times, mini grip 1 and it’s broke again . I’m done with the axis lock and Benchmade. 2 great knives one big flaw ,omega spring.why Benchmade doesn’t fix this problem is because they give give 2 turds about the end user. Also end user is their QC. Despicable!!

    • @cutlerylover
      @cutlerylover  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ive owned easily over a hundred of Benchmade axis lock knives as well as dozens of axis style locks from various Chinese companies and not a single one has ever broken...

  • @mattconklin4026
    @mattconklin4026 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay I'm new to Benchmade, u need help learning this stuff. On some models does the tail end of the Omega springs sit in a hole? I'm seeing these slip into a slot.

    • @bluepill8077
      @bluepill8077 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      On the counterfeit knock off Chinese ones I think it does

  • @christosthomaidis6436
    @christosthomaidis6436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where can i find metal springs Axis Lock?you can give an address?I have one ganzo 720 with broken springs!

  • @courtlandvote1419
    @courtlandvote1419 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I ask where you got your knife from. I’ve been thinking I got a fake for a while now and both our knives have the same tell sign so I’m trying to figure out if mine is fake or now

    • @andrikbra4022
      @andrikbra4022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did. you find out wether or not yours is fake? I started to think, that mine is Fake too, because of the inner steel liners (they are the Same pattern like the one in the video 4:03 )

  • @97widerider
    @97widerider 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Easy to see how fidgeting 100 times a day can eventually wear that spring out and cause to snap in the middle

  • @bobbycarter5990
    @bobbycarter5990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    U have to hold lock back a little to put pivot in

  • @doofy28
    @doofy28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was not mechanically inclined when I was young because no one taught me. I got a job in construction and learned how to be mechanically inclined. It's a skill that can be developed IMO.

  • @JOMO_EDC
    @JOMO_EDC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Putting in the pivot screw is the most frustrating part on putting a axis lock knife back together.

  • @PapaYosif
    @PapaYosif 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ffs literally just did this an hour ago and now this pops out in my recommended. coulda used this about an hour ago youtube...

  • @Nordraw
    @Nordraw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did those springs break? With just normal use?

    • @cutlerylover
      @cutlerylover  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I dont know it was from the previous owner but from what Ive heard it can happen under normal use, some people, flick the knives open and closed thousands of times for fun, lol...

  • @saltyshellback
    @saltyshellback 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dropped a screw from a light fixture last night when I was changing some light bulbs...Oh the HORROR!!!!!....lol

  • @deleted_redacted
    @deleted_redacted 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a reason you didn't clean and lube the knife while it was disassembled?

    • @blindmelonlemonjello
      @blindmelonlemonjello 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why does he need to ? If it's not dirty don't you suspect Jeff would be able to determine this ?

    • @cutlerylover
      @cutlerylover  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      mostly because that wasnt the purpose of the video I did lube it afterwards but it wasnt that dirty...I dont see much advantage to lube while its apart either...

  • @kf3432
    @kf3432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this a real bench made 940?

  • @JOMO_EDC
    @JOMO_EDC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It might be said this could void warranty. But I say go for it.

    • @shadowcastyt
      @shadowcastyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They basically say that so you don’t send them a knife in pieces.... I’ve taken apart BM knives and sent them back and they’ll accept them (kinda like their “only buy from authorized retailer” policy.... friend got his from eBay and BM took care of him fine) the reason why they have that policy is so you don’t go sending them a fake.... as long as it’s a genuine BM all in one piece you should be fine

    • @JOMO_EDC
      @JOMO_EDC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shadowcastyt completely agree that’s why I said COULD void the warranty. I’ve taken them apart as well. The last one I did was a Bugout that a friend brought over in a ziplock bag because he couldn’t get it back together.

  • @cavalry1213
    @cavalry1213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would say try a pair of needle nose pliers.

  • @sergemaster
    @sergemaster ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeff when dealing with or modding BM Axis knives, to make life easy you need to pick up an aftermarket pivot alignment tool first off, that saves on reassembly time as well as stress. Second is a fun fact, and that is when it comes to Griptilians, the Omega Springs don't break as often if at all, compared to other models like the Bugout and others. Another trick that I learned when modding, is during reassembly, use froglube on the liners as well as springs. this leaves of protective film on both the liners as well as the springs themselves, enhancing their performance and lifespan...

  • @tikkidaddy
    @tikkidaddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't forget your 91% alcohol and then your Tuf Glide (in Jeff's case)😂

  • @heres_j0hnnyjs75
    @heres_j0hnnyjs75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also have the rage , I will be cursing up a storm dam near wanting to punch somthing . so your not the only one

  • @jaycoleman1862
    @jaycoleman1862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you just take off one scale at a time and replace the spring, it tends to be easier. Well it is for me.

  • @Larry-gs8gb
    @Larry-gs8gb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I learned from this is if the springs on my 710 break to send it back to benchmade, lol.( otherwise i'll just have to ship them a busted knife with missing pieces)

    • @planejet42
      @planejet42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It looks pretty simple and straight forward to do

    • @bobbycarter5990
      @bobbycarter5990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's simple

  • @mikejurnak4253
    @mikejurnak4253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    have you ever heard of the spring popping out not breaking?

  • @knifeaddict1014
    @knifeaddict1014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just called bm trying to get them to send me some and the crossbar, my mini bugout sticks but they said I would me to send it in. Not gonna do that

    • @bobbycarter5990
      @bobbycarter5990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They all stick when new

    • @knifeaddict1014
      @knifeaddict1014 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobbycarter5990 haha no not really 1st iv had to do it like that and I own 4 bugouts and it’s 6 months old so really not new!

    • @bobbycarter5990
      @bobbycarter5990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@knifeaddict1014 yea right if u own 4 what's the big deal of sending it in

  • @laurenspang
    @laurenspang 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    they need to use better materials for he omega springs

    • @planejet42
      @planejet42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the only solution would be a thicker spring. All springs eventually fatigue and break, but it’s definitely more likely with a thin little spring like that that is doing a lot of work

    • @frakismaximus3052
      @frakismaximus3052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like the kind Ganzo uses

  • @doofy28
    @doofy28 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish opening the knife did not void the warranty.

    • @bobbycarter5990
      @bobbycarter5990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It want I stripped 2 screws taking my 940 apart and they sent me replacement screws for the whole handle with 2 pocket clips and screws.. They just don't want u sending it a bag with the knife in peices

  • @nothanks3980
    @nothanks3980 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i sent my spring flying twice😭

  • @joereally8962
    @joereally8962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where’s the English bulldog?

    • @cutlerylover
      @cutlerylover  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My English bulldog Gus passed away I have a video about it

    • @joereally8962
      @joereally8962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m sorry.. :(

  • @SimpliciusTeutsch
    @SimpliciusTeutsch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a lock with such a thin spring seems not reliable at long sight to me.

    • @cutlerylover
      @cutlerylover  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      everythings reliable until its not, lol...

  • @disturbedlife5691
    @disturbedlife5691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 Things. 1. Put a film of oil between the blade and washers and they'll stick to the blade. 2. Don't take apart a LAWKS system unless you like migraines.