The DX7 and TX7 were meant to be together (What no one talks about, but is so obvious).
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In this episode I let my TX7 meet his best friend ever... the DX7!
They were made for each other! No really... they WERE made for each other. - เพลง
Nice find! The DX7 almost looks new! I’m not jealous, not jealous, not even a little bit… :-)
It’s in great shape, yes! 😃
I have my tx7 midi'd to my CZ-1, makes a rich combination..
Layering voices are always fun and effective!
I Used the DX7 and the TX7 for Bass Sounds with a Little Modulation ~~ for Solo ~ DX7II FD
I use it too mainly for bass sounds :)
Now imagine what the TX816 (8 DX7like modules in a rack) would sound like. 😉Yamaha came up with sounds that spread over all of the modules, with each only producing a certain part of the combined sound. Much better than just layering the same sound. The famous FMepiano sounds massive on that one. Just a little bit of varied panorama and a bit of detuning and no chorus is needed. Just reverb maybe. Another synth that will never leave my studio.
I’ve never played on a fully loaded TX816 but would love to do that some time in the future. :)
Do you think it would be able to replicate on vst like Dexed or Arturias DX7 with 8 instances running?
@@synthfellow i think there is a video around in which somebody tried that. But somehow I prefer the hands-on thing with hardware. And the sound of the old converters. TX816's modules have balanced outputs, which helps with the normally weak levels of a DX7's outs.
@@synthfellow You can get the 8 sysex banks of the TX816 somewhere online to import them into Dexed.
@@maltekrug9110 sounds like a project I’d like! 😜
TX7 has 32 memories for its Function parameters, plus another 32 which can be used for DX7 (which has only one such setting for all 32 patches). Both MIDI cables have to be connected to use this as TX7 sends SysEx data to DX7.
Another great feature is range setting when TX7 plays only in limited range - up, down on the keyboard, or when the lowest point is set higher than the highest, there's a silenced range between them.
Also possibility of program TX7 directly from DX7 should be mentioned.
Thank you for the completing info! I know you’re a DX-expert! ❤️
This is what I’ve wanted to see! 🎉 Even with the two doubling the same sounds, what a difference in fatness! I have both and find that to be much richer than doing the same thing on the TX802.
Great!! 😊
Nice video!
I had no idea that the data slider is outputting data via midi. Please please let it be CC. 😁
(I’ve had my DX7 as my master keyboard in the studio for about 25 years now and to be able to use that slider in the daw (Bitwig) would be really nice.)
By the way, does “expander” really means that it’s an addition? My Crumar Bit 01 has “Rack expander” on the front, and it’s just the rack version of the Bit 99.
I think it’s the same idea. A way to expand the keyboard version with more voices and patches.
I mean the TX7 is called an FM *expander* right?! But to be fair if you can't afford a DX or find one is good condition, the TX is very competent as a stand-alone synth too, especially given its age! I don't own either and likely never will, but do have a TX81z, as well as a Digitone and Opsix. Plus there is the Arturia DX7 plugin which is great and I'm just now experimenting with Tracktion F'em. Many paths to FM these days, it's really having a revival!
The TX7 is definitely a good choice! Tbh who owns a DX7 to program it? And most of us have a midikeyboard anyway.
Arturias DX7 is great but somehow I prefer Dexed. ❤
Yes! 🙌. Also nice to have without having to maintain a DX7. (Although the DX7 triggers the TX7 the way it was intended)
@@synthfellow I prefer Dexed over arturia also. Sounds great on the iPad.
@@waltscott5 me too
Back in the 80s I had a friend who had a TX7 that he ran with his guitar and midi. I had a DX21 at the time and really enjoyed the TX7 and really wanted one...but certainly could not afford one...but I did find quite a bargain on an FB-01 which I still have...I also now have a DX7IIFD which I purchased in the 90s. Used, of course, but still works great never thought of using the FB-01 as an expansion though...that detune is amazing!
The DX7ii should be able to do what I did with my DX7/TX7.
No matter how much it was used in the 80s, you have to love the DX7 for its famous factory presets, especially no.15 and no.16! ✌🏻+ ❤
Agree!! :)
2 Korg FM2 volca paired up? I wonder if I could get a similar result on the cheap?
Well of course. But you can’t control one Volca with the other, right?
Did you know there's a specific set of layer patches they made for the dx/tx combo?
I adapted it for the mark II but search around and you'll find it.
I’ll search around :)
@@synthfellow look for "tx7 data cassette sysex"
get the DX5 patches -- (they combine for example horn A horn B strings A strings B etc they are factory made to be used together - so with 2 dx7,s or a dx7/tx7 - load A on one and B on another and you have a DX5 combination -- i do this with my dx7 11fd in performance mode = 2 patches together stereo -- closest u will get to a dx5 without owning one ..
I will test that :)
The primary usage was to run it together with the DX7 to make the sound fatter with detune, or use the midi overflow for 32 note polyphony. t's a "Poor man's" DX1 or 1/4'th TX816
Or pre-DX7iiD ;)
@@synthfellow Ya, I had the TX802. With all the Retro hype of FM i kinda regret Selling it, same as my Korg DW8000, I got an M1 and was’t happy with the DWGS sounds, so I exchaned the old DW with an EX and used it together with the TX, it was pre clonewheels. So the TX with multiple outputs was used for the obvious hit sounds and pure organ sounds running thru an old Dynachord CLS-22. Was a pretty decent analog Leslie sim for that time. I was propably one of the few that bothered learning myself how to program those FM sounds. Why I want to hurt those that designed the new Genos 2 and did only give us a preset DX7 engine. How hard could it be to make it accept sysex… I can use all my old sounds from the TX802 in my Kronos and add all the effects you didn’t have back in the days. But its kinda just nostalgia. I really wouldn’t bother paying what it cost to re-purchase all the gear I sold of to pay for newer gear. Its more a regret how little we often sold it for and now much of it is more expensive used than when it was new and interesting.
@@mrdali67 yeah a big part of me keep asking why I keep getting those old synths when it can be done all in the box. I got it all in the computer, more easy access and not prone to breaking or needing a battery change. But then again.. it’s nice to have the real thing.
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Nice thing about the TX7 it responds as well as a DX7 to SysEx, and it’s not complicated (at least not for an FM synth). It’s pretty easy to make an editor for it. I did it with an Electra One, and you can fit that Electra One on top of a TX7 as well. They make a nice pair.
Because the sysex works bidirectional, the Electra One shows you how the TX7 sound is constructed. A very good way to learn how to make sounds in FM. May I’ll need a second TX7 !
Nice!
What is the patch called at 3:07?
It is Piano 2, an original preset.
You seem to like "Pyramid" quite a lot! 😄
Can’t say I know what that is ;)
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So together you can sound like a dx5?
Haha well.. more like a DX7ii or TX802. But I guess the principle is the same on DX5.
@@synthfellow yea but they're both 8 bit. The dx7ii and tx802 are 16 bit IINM. 🙃
So they have a different sound.
@@amonster8mymother you mean the DACs? Yes they sound a little different.
@@synthfellow yes definately they sound different. Not bad mind you but smoother and less gutsy. 😎
So what was it _built for?_ Doubling the voice with minimal detune to create pseudo stereo? That could be done with any chorus pedal. I don't get what this was meant to do. I also don't hear much of a difference between single and combined mode.
I guess YT doesn’t really do the sound justice but this is what it was built for. Expanding the DX7 with more voices and new possibilities. As someone commented, there are patches made specific for the combination.