I tested my friend's 14900KS P-124, using a single D5 Pump, Bykski 360/60mm rad, push/pull with Phanteks T30 in push and some Lian Li fancy RGB fans in pull. My motherboard is just MSI Z790 Tomahawk, nothing exceptional. And the min vCore to run P-5.9 that would pass 10mins of CB R23 ended up with max CPU Package at 79c. I've tried 6.0 but to no avail, no matter how much the voltage was raised, it would BSOD at CB R23 round 15~20. Seems like CB R23 crashes when temps are 90c+
Not sure…your cooling is exotic that will give you a big advantage. 77c with 16deg water it would be easy 100c on any other type of cooling with more power consumption or crashing.
Love the test best setup and loop feeding the CPU block. This is going to help me complete my LGA 1700/RTX 4090 build and decide/pull the trigger on my 14900KS/14900K, or 13900KS build(just finishing up my AMD 7950X/7900XTX build). I will need to check your other videos to check which parts/pieces(pump/res/CPU block/tubes) you used to get your loop so quiet? Sharing this video with some contacts in need of a solid/practical solution for their 14900KS/RTX 4090 BUILD. Thanks for a great, informative video!
I wanted to say I have a 14900KS also paired with the Z790 Apex mobo, like you running 8,000 speed ram overclocked to 8,200. ( SP-102 & 160 on the cooler). I only have a 360mm, so the stock settings were way to HOT. I had to run it like a regular 14900k, on bi core usage from 6.0 to 5.9 to 5.8 on the P-cores and an all core 4.5 on the E-cores with Adaptive boost enabled. VCOR was at 1.328. If I went over 1.4 Volts the system would boot up, but couldnt run cenebench and it would crash my Games. I had to follow Intels guidlines on some of the settings to keep it under control. Set the LLC to 4, C States Enabled set to CPU default. Had to Enable two settings that were about Excursion power. I did have the system on Remove all Limits but still made the changes Intel said would keep it stable. Cenebench score was only 38,462 because of the bios settings. I just cant run it like it should be run because the Temperatures are holding it back. Long and short duration settings were at 280 on both at 96 seconds. ICCMax set at 400. 00 I did undervolt it several times but the cenebench scores were worse so went back to original. Im happy with this chip because I had a 13900k and could only run it at 5.7 gig to keep it stable. You still got room to play with the kind of cooling you have so have fun and I will be watching.
What cooling system do you use and how did you connect the G1/4 fittings to that aquarium water cooling system I'm hallucinating what a perfect temperature
I've noticed this with my keyboard and it's only happened on this 14900KS, it only happens when I'm messing with my ram settings or stress testing. I can't say what exactly is doing it. Mine just disconnects at the windows log in screen and reconnects on its own. I first noticed because mine is rgb, it turns off then a few seconds later it comes back on
People return CPUs because they are running them on AIOs with 40C coolant temp lol. Something like your cooling setup with chilled water will make a big difference.
Turning the power supply off does strange things. It's kinda like clearing the CMOS. I try not to do that. But the same issues happen to me also especially when I'm tweaking the Bios and having to reset it. Go to windows screen and mouse wont work or the keyboard isnt working. I unplug them and plug them back in and whalla they work again, thank God.
It’s really the keyboard. You can unplug it and plug it in to another PC and it won’t work. It takes like 10 minutes of it sitting unplugged completely, then it will work.
Can you please tell us what AC and DC Loadline value you are using? because i have been trying to reproduce your overclock of 6ghz at 1.270v for two weeks now, without success.. It would really help me to know your Bios settings.. i have two 14900ks sp 105 on Apex encore, but i really cannot reproduce your overclock, the lowest i got was 1.35v for 6 Ghz.. and it is unstable.. I really don't know what AC and DC Loadline value to use.. Can you can read the ones you are using in Hardware info "Main window" click on "central processor" and scroll down to read the value of "IA Domain Loadline (AC/DC): " ? so far the only one that i am using that does not crash always is at 6ghz is AC 0.400 / DC 0.400 mOhm.. at LLC7, or 0.7/0.7 mOhm at LLC4 but it is too unstable.. it really would be a great help to know what are your AC/DC loadline values, or other bios settings , because your sp99 does way better than my two sp105s on apex encore, or i must be having some wrong bios settings.. i am really thinking of returning these sp105 14900KS because i cannot get them stable at 6ghz..
dude i have followed so many overclocking guides for my 14900ks i cant get anything to work other then the intel baseline profile :( I feel like my cooling shouldn't be a problem i have 360mm AIO corsair H150i cooler with 6 fans on the radiator in push pull. SIX FANS. Intel baseline profile while playing CS2 im not even getting into the high 60's in degrees celcius so i feel like i should have plenty of thermal headroom but all of my games just crash. Also my SP scores were like 117 which is a pretty damn good chip then no? idk ive given up on overclocking it for now.
Hello my friend! Nice to see a new video. We have talked a few times before. Well now I tried your experiment here in this video, because I have a SP104 14900KS. And that cannot even do what you do in the video my friend. IF I set SVID manual to 1.425v LLC4- then then BIOS and system run at 1.501v way higher than your SP99. You always make it seem so easy! ;) .. I am not able to archieve what you archeive and I wonder why? My P SP is 115.
@@videocardzrule354 Yes you are right and I also think the temperature plays in. I have a monster watercooling but no chiller.. those 10c or more def make a difference also in voltage and power consumption.
Cinebench23 stability and voltages is a joke, and TM5 for memory too. For true stability ppl used occt small avx2 for cores for example and karhu or memtestpro for memory, and y-cruncher vst/vt3 for mem controller. TM5 dont test DDR5 like it tested DDR4. OCCT small AVX2 will crush this setup and oc 6.0 1.270 volts with BSOD 100%, so it means its not stable at this voltage at all. Many ppl thinks that if u boot and run cb23 and TM5 its stable, but its not that easy, with this oc u will fly off from your games sometimes and think that is ok
I’m just testing the CPU in the video and checking the vmins compared to other chips I have ran. But yeah, you don’t have to do all of that. I just run TM5 Anta777 Extreme for 2+ hours for my DDR5 8600@1.400V, I test stability in games and my work apps, and it has been completely reliable daily since 5/23/2024. I am the stability tester. Not really an app. If it’s not stable. I can’t run it, it’s as simple as that. It has to never crash, and re-train consistently. If it never crashes or closes to desktop EVER on games with good 1% lows. Then I’m good.
@@videocardzrule354 btw my sp score is 108 122 p 81e 92 mc sp Which svid behavior should I pick ? Best case scenario or typical ? Or keep it on trained , I didn’t actually understand why it’s not recommended as it optimize the voltage to my understanding
@@YGadgETech Changing the SVID behavior is perfectly fine. It’s just like easy undervolting is all. How you have it is fine, as long as it runs reliably is the most important thing.
@@videocardzrule354 some systems could run better svid behavior trained than typical for example ? Btw my cpu load line calibration is on level 3 by default that’s ok? (I meant by the auto setting)
@videocardzrule354 right! I ended up using the AC/DC LL to dial everything in and I'm happy with the result. 6.2 @ 1.37v and 5.9 @ 1.28v and this is on an AIO for cooling. Thanks for the video!
@videocardzrule354 to be clear, I was just saying as far as SP goes it is almost rock bottom. I agree! I just got my 103 SP KS doing 6.2GHz @ 1.37v/ 5.9GHz @ 1.28 and I'm a mere AIO using peasant 🤣 I'm sure vmin could go even lower with better cooling.
@@RuiN4265 Yes I think all 14900KS are good. They are binned and tested to do the job right! Maybe not super low voltage for 5.7 or 5.8. But, they can get it done at 5.9+ with nice low Voltage. I see so many people complaining, and this chip is pretty sweet! 😂 even though it’s an SP99. I’m sure your chip would be even better than this one. I’d like to try a SP103+
I burst out laughing when he said nothing fancy here. Then pans to his setup that looks like a factory 😂😂😂
I have to sub to this absolute madlad indeed.
I tested my friend's 14900KS P-124, using a single D5 Pump, Bykski 360/60mm rad, push/pull with Phanteks T30 in push and some Lian Li fancy RGB fans in pull.
My motherboard is just MSI Z790 Tomahawk, nothing exceptional. And the min vCore to run P-5.9 that would pass 10mins of CB R23 ended up with max CPU Package at 79c. I've tried 6.0 but to no avail, no matter how much the voltage was raised, it would BSOD at CB R23 round 15~20. Seems like CB R23 crashes when temps are 90c+
Stellar information! I've a 13900ks on a small chiller running 6.5GHz and CB23 45,115 Always enjoy you videos!
Not sure…your cooling is exotic that will give you a big advantage. 77c with 16deg water it would be easy 100c on any other type of cooling with more power consumption or crashing.
could only get my ram stable at 7800 with 2 24gb sticks , got my 14900ks at 60 all core 6.3 single on regular loop 5 radiators 2 d5 pumps
Love the test best setup and loop feeding the CPU block. This is going to help me complete my LGA 1700/RTX 4090 build and decide/pull the trigger on my 14900KS/14900K, or 13900KS build(just finishing up my AMD 7950X/7900XTX build). I will need to check your other videos to check which parts/pieces(pump/res/CPU block/tubes) you used to get your loop so quiet? Sharing this video with some contacts in need of a solid/practical solution for their 14900KS/RTX 4090 BUILD. Thanks for a great, informative video!
I wanted to say I have a 14900KS also paired with the Z790 Apex mobo, like you running 8,000 speed ram overclocked to 8,200. ( SP-102 & 160 on the cooler). I only have a 360mm, so the stock settings were way to HOT. I had to run it like a regular 14900k, on bi core usage from 6.0 to 5.9 to 5.8 on the P-cores and an all core 4.5 on the E-cores with Adaptive boost enabled. VCOR was at 1.328. If I went over 1.4 Volts the system would boot up, but couldnt run cenebench and it would crash my Games. I had to follow Intels guidlines on some of the settings to keep it under control. Set the LLC to 4, C States Enabled set to CPU default. Had to Enable two settings that were about Excursion power. I did have the system on Remove all Limits but still made the changes Intel said would keep it stable. Cenebench score was only 38,462 because of the bios settings. I just cant run it like it should be run because the Temperatures are holding it back. Long and short duration settings were at 280 on both at 96 seconds. ICCMax set at 400. 00 I did undervolt it several times but the cenebench scores were worse so went back to original. Im happy with this chip because I had a 13900k and could only run it at 5.7 gig to keep it stable. You still got room to play with the kind of cooling you have so have fun and I will be watching.
Keyboard issues could be related to your system agent voltages/SA stability effecting USB devices that are sensitive to it or specific ports.
So would SA too low be causing this or too high?? Or is it a "sweet spot" type issue?
What cooling system do you use and how did you connect the G1/4 fittings to that aquarium water cooling system I'm hallucinating what a perfect temperature
I have the exact same batch as you lol. X351P527. SP106/P118/E82. It is a beast even on a 360mm AIO
It's hard to remember that the SP scores aren't comparable across SKUs. An SP99 KS would likely have a much higher score if it were weighed as a K.
I've noticed this with my keyboard and it's only happened on this 14900KS, it only happens when I'm messing with my ram settings or stress testing. I can't say what exactly is doing it. Mine just disconnects at the windows log in screen and reconnects on its own. I first noticed because mine is rgb, it turns off then a few seconds later it comes back on
sucks i never grew up with cool people like this im the only one i know that likes to push computers to the edge
People return CPUs because they are running them on AIOs with 40C coolant temp lol. Something like your cooling setup with chilled water will make a big difference.
Turning the power supply off does strange things. It's kinda like clearing the CMOS. I try not to do that. But the same issues happen to me also especially when I'm tweaking the Bios and having to reset it. Go to windows screen and mouse wont work or the keyboard isnt working. I unplug them and plug them back in and whalla they work again, thank God.
It’s really the keyboard. You can unplug it and plug it in to another PC and it won’t work. It takes like 10 minutes of it sitting unplugged completely, then it will work.
@@videocardzrule354 In that case I would get another Keyboard. That brand ONN is as cheap as they come.
can you elaborate a bit more about what the sa bug is please , ive never heard of it before.
Can you give us some info on the cooling your using on your chip... i want that exact setup...
Check his other videos bruv ...... he has vids that explain everything in detail.
Can you please tell us what AC and DC Loadline value you are using?
because i have been trying to reproduce your overclock of 6ghz at 1.270v for two weeks now, without success..
It would really help me to know your Bios settings..
i have two 14900ks sp 105 on Apex encore, but i really cannot reproduce your overclock, the lowest i got was 1.35v for 6 Ghz.. and it is unstable..
I really don't know what AC and DC Loadline value to use..
Can you can read the ones you are using in Hardware info "Main window" click on "central processor" and scroll down to read the value of "IA Domain Loadline (AC/DC): " ?
so far the only one that i am using that does not crash always is at 6ghz is AC 0.400 / DC 0.400 mOhm.. at LLC7,
or 0.7/0.7 mOhm at LLC4 but it is too unstable..
it really would be a great help to know what are your AC/DC loadline values, or other bios settings ,
because your sp99 does way better than my two sp105s on apex encore, or i must be having some wrong bios settings..
i am really thinking of returning these sp105 14900KS because i cannot get them stable at 6ghz..
Mine also has the SA bug. but lucky it only triggers above 1.30 , so 1.30 is fine, 1.305 is fine, 1.31 bang. luckly I only need 1.255 for 8400.
dude i have followed so many overclocking guides for my 14900ks i cant get anything to work other then the intel baseline profile :( I feel like my cooling shouldn't be a problem i have 360mm AIO corsair H150i cooler with 6 fans on the radiator in push pull. SIX FANS. Intel baseline profile while playing CS2 im not even getting into the high 60's in degrees celcius so i feel like i should have plenty of thermal headroom but all of my games just crash. Also my SP scores were like 117 which is a pretty damn good chip then no? idk ive given up on overclocking it for now.
With all that has came out about 13th and 14th Gen. All of us Intel owners now know why we're having issues. 🤷♂️
Hello my friend! Nice to see a new video. We have talked a few times before. Well now I tried your experiment here in this video, because I have a SP104 14900KS. And that cannot even do what you do in the video my friend. IF I set SVID manual to 1.425v LLC4- then then BIOS and system run at 1.501v way higher than your SP99. You always make it seem so easy! ;) .. I am not able to archieve what you archeive and I wonder why? My P SP is 115.
All CPU’s are different. Cannot key in the exact same settings from chip to chip.
@@videocardzrule354 Yes you are right and I also think the temperature plays in. I have a monster watercooling but no chiller.. those 10c or more def make a difference also in voltage and power consumption.
Excellent video bro!
Very good video as usual. Thanks
man... o man... i could have a convesation with you for hours.. on the 14900k...
Cinebench23 stability and voltages is a joke, and TM5 for memory too. For true stability ppl used occt small avx2 for cores for example and karhu or memtestpro for memory, and y-cruncher vst/vt3 for mem controller. TM5 dont test DDR5 like it tested DDR4. OCCT small AVX2 will crush this setup and oc 6.0 1.270 volts with BSOD 100%, so it means its not stable at this voltage at all. Many ppl thinks that if u boot and run cb23 and TM5 its stable, but its not that easy, with this oc u will fly off from your games sometimes and think that is ok
I’m just testing the CPU in the video and checking the vmins compared to other chips I have ran. But yeah, you don’t have to do all of that. I just run TM5 Anta777 Extreme for 2+ hours for my DDR5 8600@1.400V, I test stability in games and my work apps, and it has been completely reliable daily since 5/23/2024. I am the stability tester. Not really an app. If it’s not stable. I can’t run it, it’s as simple as that. It has to never crash, and re-train consistently. If it never crashes or closes to desktop EVER on games with good 1% lows. Then I’m good.
Your usb freezing up is instability due to your ramtest mate, I'm adamant about that I had the same issue.
Are you saying karhu is causing this or what exactly? I have the usb problem with certain settings applied and can't figure out what is causing it
Do you Enable C-States and if so, do you set a certain level of C- State or leave it on Auto
I enable C states, I disable enhanced c states, and I set the level to auto.
@@videocardzrule354 Thanks 😊
I love your videos bro
My 14700K is SP 72 but can do 5.7 all P-Core. (1.39v.) But yes, Intel binning is so bad
Yes but this chip is really great! It does 5.9Ghz all core with 1.208V load. It’s a SP99 and a rockstar!
I recommend to get the cheapest Logitech wireless keyboard. It never goes wrong.😂
Mines running smoothly
5.9
4.6
5.2
1.45v
Is that a good voltage?
Yes! Just make sure you use lower LLC like LLC4.
@@videocardzrule354 copy thank you
Should I keep mine svid behavior on trained?
AUTO svid behavior if you are manually adjusting the svid voltage.
@@videocardzrule354 but mine is on trained it’s not good? It’s unsafe?
@@videocardzrule354 btw my sp score is 108 122 p 81e 92 mc sp Which svid behavior should I pick ? Best case scenario or typical ? Or keep it on trained , I didn’t actually understand why it’s not recommended as it optimize the voltage to my understanding
@@YGadgETech Changing the SVID behavior is perfectly fine. It’s just like easy undervolting is all. How you have it is fine, as long as it runs reliably is the most important thing.
@@videocardzrule354 some systems could run better svid behavior trained than typical for example ? Btw my cpu load line calibration is on level 3 by default that’s ok? (I meant by the auto setting)
So you set core SVID adaptive to 1.425?
Manual Global SVID 1.425V and LLC4
@videocardzrule354 trying this now, I have an SP 103 and love the CPU just trying to get my voltages lower. I'm pretty new to all this
@@RuiN4265 what works on one cpu, will not work on another unless they are both very similar chips.
@videocardzrule354 right! I ended up using the AC/DC LL to dial everything in and I'm happy with the result. 6.2 @ 1.37v and 5.9 @ 1.28v and this is on an AIO for cooling. Thanks for the video!
@@RuiN4265 What do you have your C-States set to. Enable or Disable
How do you know SP 99 is not a good sample? Just FIY SP between different models isn't comparable. You can compare by VID for a given frequency.
People have made charts with real 14900KS SP's and 99 is pretty much bottom of the barrel
@@RuiN4265 Yep I have 99 sp 14900k or even 100 if I remember now I have 14900ks 108sp p core 120 e core 80 mc sp didn’t checked yet
I think this SP99 is great! I really like the chip. I will defend it against all nay sayers! 😂
@videocardzrule354 to be clear, I was just saying as far as SP goes it is almost rock bottom. I agree! I just got my 103 SP KS doing 6.2GHz @ 1.37v/ 5.9GHz @ 1.28 and I'm a mere AIO using peasant 🤣 I'm sure vmin could go even lower with better cooling.
@@RuiN4265 Yes I think all 14900KS are good. They are binned and tested to do the job right! Maybe not super low voltage for 5.7 or 5.8. But, they can get it done at 5.9+ with nice low Voltage. I see so many people complaining, and this chip is pretty sweet! 😂 even though it’s an SP99. I’m sure your chip would be even better than this one. I’d like to try a SP103+
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i hit 40k in cinebench with my 14700k with good settings i could hit higher with that chip you clearly dont know what ur doing
lmao