I don't care much about the politics or arguments of glassing a wooden hull, all I see is another tired old boat being given a second (3rd 4th 5th whatever) chance chance to get back in the water and Im 100% behind any owner who choses to save their boat by any means they can. Great work Phil, and many thanks for sharing. [EDIT] On a side note, the first time I saw wood being glassed I was blown away because you could still see the grain.. I have no idea why but I always thought it would dry the same colour as the matting (yeah I know 🤣🤣)
As much as I viscerally dislike the idea of splining and glassing a carvel hull, I will say that you do it right in world where so many don't and end up inadvertently destroying their boats. Great work, Phil.
@Pocketfarmer1 9 times out of 10 I think it's best to leave wooden boats the way they were designed. There's no need to spline the seams of a carvel hull unless your planning on fiberglassing it.
Thank you. When I notified of this being available to watch via Facebook, I added the following message: This shows glassing the hull. Before you tell me how terrible a thing that is to do, I'll explain. I looked for a person who would be willing to row out to the mooring every day to pump out a beautiful original 90 year old caulked and painted wooden boat and to my surprise not one person volunteered. I am also not willing to do the daily chore, hence the fibreglass and epoxy.
@revivingjabiru7588 I'm obviously not advocating just leaving one in a derelict condition like you describe. I'm merely saying that it's not impossible to restore a wooden boat without resorting to fiberglass, and in my mind, that's the preferable path that retains the most historical value and character. I'm also not saying that glassing a wooden boat is always the wrong thing to do, and in your case, it's gonna work out just fine. You're a professional, and you know what you're doing. And that's great. But I've seen and heard of a lot of boats that people who don't know what they're doing have done a shoddy glass job on that end up in horrible shape in very short order.
Pleasant way to start a Sunday. Have never used peel ply but can see if I had it would have saved the many hours of torture boarding that resulted in my 30 ft solid glass hull. Wish I had seen this 12 years ago. Thank you for displaying your build and I look forward to seeing her floating again. cheers , Jim
My friend keep up the good work, for you are bringing great Joy to your viewers watching how hard work being done with a very good outcome to the end ...
I’m impressed with your work. My boat repair experience is with a wooden boat and a fiberglass boat. Doing wood repairs was very enjoyable to me. Watching you repair the wood hull was a treat.
If it's not too late, remove the plastic handle from your roller and cut the metal shaft down so that when you replace the handle it's end passes the bend in the shaft by about an inch. Cut a grove in the handle to accommodate the bend, add a few grooves in the metal to stop any rotation of the handle when reglued back in place. This will make the use of the tool so much easier and comfortable. I spent many years using them as standard untill i did this and the difference was night and day. Keep well and stay safe.
Hi Stephen, that sounds like a good idea. The hull ios now finished, but the decks and cabin tops will come later. Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out when more glassing is about to happen.
Thank you for sharing your work. Old boats are a labor of love, and you have shown ample measures of both in this project. If it isn’t too much trouble, could you identify the background music starting at about 11:25?
All the music comes from Uppbeat on the net. On the credits at the end, they are in the same order as they appear in the video. It's called Black Rose by Jacob Taylor Amerding.
Here in the states boat yards use a general rule of wetting out glass by weighing the glass and use that weight in epoxy or resin. This is probably a little too late because you’d probably already done but. Have you ever watched Dan Lee ‘s boat building channel on TH-cam. There’s a lot of excellent tips on this sort of thing. Thanks for a great show.
Thanks that is a lot of glassing. So is it three layers across the whole boat ? Also I never noticed the sound or movements most people don't watch themselves on video . Anyway in all a very interesting and enjoyable video.
"Lumps" under peel play isn't usual. Are you using commercial peel-ply or cheap fabric from a dress shop? I found you can dramatically speed up Epoxy wetout with a warm gently stream of air from a hair-dryer. The lowering of viscosity works like a dream. Edit. Aha, 18:10 trying to put resin OVER peel ply. Nah. As you found, if you don't have it ON the glass first, its a hopeless case. You'd have to roll back the dry peel ply and add some more epoxy.
Thanks for the comments. It is peel ply from the same supplier of glass and resin. I noticed today there is an area where the peel ply has been applied over some glass. Under the peel ply there are lumps and right next to it on the same piece of glass is smooth as it should be. No extra resin was applied. I'm getting better as I go along, but peel ply is still not to my liking.
@@revivingjabiru7588 I can understand why you’re feeling happier, with a good solid hull like that gives a great base for everything else, and she really does look solid:) In two weeks I’m back onto Susanna where I’ll make her watertight and float her down. I always have two of three months early summer of solid work and I just can’t find enthusiasm for working in dribs and drabs so I tend to leave things until I can work for a block of time. I can’t wait to get back to her in a couple of weeks! Looking forward to seeing where you go next on Jabaru too… Cheers!
Hi Mike, It is epoxy and the glass is 600 gsm triaxial. It's very easy cloth to work with. I only used peel ply at the end of each day so I could easily start again the next day and not have to wait for the full cure.
Phil apologies if i missed it, but why are you glassing Jabiru? i have a 92 yr old kauri carvel planked yacht, had her 20 years a bit of caulking needed replacing on garboard plank but nowhere else all original and no issues.
It's all about not wanting a leaky boat. Jabiru has been out of the water for more than ten years, so everything has shrunk. If I did a good enough job of caulking so she didn't leak at the launching, a few weeks later she would be bursting at the seams. If you look at #19, turning her over, you will see a shot from beneath and that shows the size of some of the seam gaps. It was easier to spline the hull and glass it. If she had stayed in the water, it might have been different.
Apparently you dont like the truth or your hiding from it by removing my post. I guess you only want to hear good things not the truth. You might as well remove this post also.
I don't care much about the politics or arguments of glassing a wooden hull, all I see is another tired old boat being given a second (3rd 4th 5th whatever) chance chance to get back in the water and Im 100% behind any owner who choses to save their boat by any means they can.
Great work Phil, and many thanks for sharing.
[EDIT]
On a side note, the first time I saw wood being glassed I was blown away because you could still see the grain.. I have no idea why but I always thought it would dry the same colour as the matting (yeah I know 🤣🤣)
Thanks for your kind thought. Regarding the grain - the more glass, the less you see.
As much as I viscerally dislike the idea of splining and glassing a carvel hull, I will say that you do it right in world where so many don't and end up inadvertently destroying their boats. Great work, Phil.
What’s your opinion of just splining with epoxy?
@Pocketfarmer1 9 times out of 10 I think it's best to leave wooden boats the way they were designed. There's no need to spline the seams of a carvel hull unless your planning on fiberglassing it.
Thank you. When I notified of this being available to watch via Facebook, I added the following message: This shows glassing the hull. Before you tell me how terrible a thing that is to do, I'll explain. I looked for a person who would be willing to row out to the mooring every day to pump out a beautiful original 90 year old caulked and painted wooden boat and to my surprise not one person volunteered.
I am also not willing to do the daily chore, hence the fibreglass and epoxy.
@revivingjabiru7588 I'm obviously not advocating just leaving one in a derelict condition like you describe. I'm merely saying that it's not impossible to restore a wooden boat without resorting to fiberglass, and in my mind, that's the preferable path that retains the most historical value and character. I'm also not saying that glassing a wooden boat is always the wrong thing to do, and in your case, it's gonna work out just fine. You're a professional, and you know what you're doing. And that's great. But I've seen and heard of a lot of boats that people who don't know what they're doing have done a shoddy glass job on that end up in horrible shape in very short order.
Pleasant way to start a Sunday. Have never used peel ply but can see if I had it would have saved the many hours of torture boarding that resulted in my 30 ft solid glass hull.
Wish I had seen this 12 years ago. Thank you for displaying your build and I
look forward to seeing her floating again.
cheers , Jim
Thank you. As I said on the video, things are quite different to when I used to do it 50 years ago.
Hi Phil, jabiru is looking fantastic , keep up the good work. Love the videos Cliff from Logan City Queensland, Australia
Looking better every day. Thanks Cliff.
My friend keep up the good work, for you are bringing great Joy to your viewers watching how hard work being done with a very good outcome to the end ...
Thank you very much!
Great episode. I like how you learn and change and evolve the process. Bring on more glass work. Ran Sailing is another channel I watch.
That's the plan! RAN Sailing is a good channel to watch.
Very interesting video, that was a lot of hard work, thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
I’m impressed with your work. My boat repair experience is with a wooden boat and a fiberglass boat. Doing wood repairs was very enjoyable to me. Watching you repair the wood hull was a treat.
Thank you.
It's all coming along fine, Phil. Your work is thoughtful and careful and gets it done. Little by little. You'll get there.
Thank you. And I'm having fun.
You are making a very strong hull with all those layers 👍👌
Yes. That's the plan.
Big job mate but I can see the feeling of a job well done, I'm impressed at your energy
Thank you. Nice to read your comment.
Really impressed with all the work so far.
Thank you.
If it's not too late, remove the plastic handle from your roller and cut the metal shaft down so that when you replace the handle it's end passes the bend in the shaft by about an inch. Cut a grove in the handle to accommodate the bend, add a few grooves in the metal to stop any rotation of the handle when reglued back in place. This will make the use of the tool so much easier and comfortable. I spent many years using them as standard untill i did this and the difference was night and day. Keep well and stay safe.
Hi Stephen, that sounds like a good idea. The hull ios now finished, but the decks and cabin tops will come later. Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out when more glassing is about to happen.
@@revivingjabiru7588 Keep up the great work. Best wishes from the UK.
Great Job Phil...Well done...👏👏👏
Thank you.
Never boring Phil. Must be a bit mind numbing for you, but what great progress 👏 👏
I'm still wondering how of glassing the other side to show.
As per every episode I am impressed! Thank you Phil.
Thanks Peter.
Thank you for taking the time to share your project. Very inspiring.
Thanks Graham. I'm enjoying it all.
I have also been following the adventures of Johan, Malin and now little Vera on RAN 1,2, and now 3.
Great thinkers and they take care with every part of their build.
Stellar application! Goodonyas!
Thank you. It was good to see it get on the boat finally.
Ear worm 😂.
Great work!
Glad you enjoyed
Thank you for sharing your work. Old boats are a labor of love, and you have shown ample measures of both in this project. If it isn’t too much trouble, could you identify the background music starting at about 11:25?
Found the credits at the end. Thanks again.
All the music comes from Uppbeat on the net. On the credits at the end, they are in the same order as they appear in the video. It's called Black Rose by Jacob Taylor Amerding.
Good job.
Thanks Joe.
Here in the states boat yards use a general rule of wetting out glass by weighing the glass and use that weight in epoxy or resin. This is probably a little too late because you’d probably already done but. Have you ever watched Dan Lee ‘s boat building channel on TH-cam. There’s a lot of excellent tips on this sort of thing. Thanks for a great show.
I had heard that, but it's bit crowded in my tent and also there's a certain amount of laziness with rules.
Thanks that is a lot of glassing. So is it three layers across the whole boat ? Also I never noticed the sound or movements most people don't watch themselves on video . Anyway in all a very interesting and enjoyable video.
Yes. It ends up six layers over the bottom of the keel and alsop at the stem and stern. Maybe even more by the time it's finished. Nice and strong.
again thank you did enjoy as ever looking forward to the turn over and the top side ,saw what i have done incorrectly .
Thank you for your moral support.
"Lumps" under peel play isn't usual. Are you using commercial peel-ply or cheap fabric from a dress shop? I found you can dramatically speed up Epoxy wetout with a warm gently stream of air from a hair-dryer. The lowering of viscosity works like a dream. Edit. Aha, 18:10 trying to put resin OVER peel ply. Nah. As you found, if you don't have it ON the glass first, its a hopeless case. You'd have to roll back the dry peel ply and add some more epoxy.
Thanks for the comments. It is peel ply from the same supplier of glass and resin. I noticed today there is an area where the peel ply has been applied over some glass. Under the peel ply there are lumps and right next to it on the same piece of glass is smooth as it should be. No extra resin was applied. I'm getting better as I go along, but peel ply is still not to my liking.
"We" as in you and Jabiru
Yes. Good one.
She's looking grand Phil! Really solid - She's going to be beautiful! :) Thanks as ever for sharing 👍
I'm feeling happier with the prpogress now. Did you waterproof Susanna and get her down the river?
@@revivingjabiru7588 I can understand why you’re feeling happier, with a good solid hull like that gives a great base for everything else, and she really does look solid:) In two weeks I’m back onto Susanna where I’ll make her watertight and float her down. I always have two of three months early summer of solid work and I just can’t find enthusiasm for working in dribs and drabs so I tend to leave things until I can work for a block of time. I can’t wait to get back to her in a couple of weeks!
Looking forward to seeing where you go next on Jabaru too… Cheers!
*Jabiru :)
@@savingsusanna great news. I look forward to seeing more.
I look forward to every one of your episodes, Phil.
Thank you Mike. I'm having fun makling them.
I assume this is epoxy ? 4 layers ? What type of glass are you using ? Also, you use peel ply on each layer ? I'm very pleased to follow your project.
Hi Mike, It is epoxy and the glass is 600 gsm triaxial. It's very easy cloth to work with. I only used peel ply at the end of each day so I could easily start again the next day and not have to wait for the full cure.
Phil apologies if i missed it, but why are you glassing Jabiru? i have a 92 yr old kauri carvel planked yacht, had her 20 years a bit of caulking needed replacing on garboard plank but nowhere else all original and no issues.
It's all about not wanting a leaky boat. Jabiru has been out of the water for more than ten years, so everything has shrunk. If I did a good enough job of caulking so she didn't leak at the launching, a few weeks later she would be bursting at the seams. If you look at #19, turning her over, you will see a shot from beneath and that shows the size of some of the seam gaps. It was easier to spline the hull and glass it. If she had stayed in the water, it might have been different.
@@revivingjabiru7588 thanks Phil, that makes sense now that i know you are not leaving her in the water.
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My wife hums as she cleans. It bugs me. I call her Cinderella
I hope I can keep it down enouigh so I don't bug you as well.
not good quality, you shall use vacuum technology, simple find on youtube.
Too many small holes in the hull for vacuum to be successful. I did think about it.
Apparently you dont like the truth or your hiding from it by removing my post.
I guess you only want to hear good things not the truth.
You might as well remove this post also.
Maybe you shoukld post it again. I haven't knowingly removed any posts or comments. Sorry if I did.
Why do you need all the silly background music…..
A lot of people seem to like the music to cover those long silences. I guess you could turn the volume down.