If you're a real fan of something, you admit its faults, nod politely, then quietly return to playing. The alternative is like being the husband who rampantly denies that his wife is a kleptomaniac, even when nobody asked about her.
I stepped in to say that your comment(s) was/were a lighthouse of rationality in a sea of "Obviously"s and "Clearly"s and "You just don't get it"s and that is cool.
@@lukedavies3654so you leave comments but don't read comments yourself. I said seel months before you. So if you don't read things why would you comment figuring other people would read things? So bizarre.
+nerdatheart94 Lol so true......its my attachment or addiction (whatever you wanna call it ) to Pokemon franchise and their games since Pokemon Red, that sometimes even lets me understand those COD player everyone hates so much, because if I'm being completely honest Pokemon Diamond, Black & X have atleast been exactly the same games with the only difference being a new skin and about 120-150 more new pokemons to catch. I'm not complaining but aside from Pokemon Gold, Pokemon Black 2 and the awesome remakes of the original games, Pokemon has never really stirred up the formula in anyways......stories have had a little variation, but everything else about the same but I don't care, in fact until Pokemon HeartGold was my favourite of the franchise until recently when Pokemon Omega Ruby was released, the new engine on 3DS combined with the nostalgia of playing a upgraded remake of Pokemon Ruby was just a one of the best experiences I've had in Pokemon games............
Quinn I played a little of HeartGold, tried White for twenty minutes and haven't played a Pokemon game since, because (get this) I found the card game more enjoyable. I had three of the starter decks and a couple cards I'd found buried in public (a roughed up Blastoise with tape on the corner comes to mind), and my brothers would play together, until one of us got bored or the smallest of us threw a fit. Eventually, the storage binder we had them in got lost either in a box or in a closet, I shrugged my shoulders and haven't touched the franchise since.
I love pokemon because... Well, nostalgia. But this video is very true. Pokemon is not at all a progressive or adult series. It's simple, strategic, OCD hoarder FUN and that's all it ever will be.
Princess Astarotha That's fine but from a truly adult perspective, Yahtzee is right. I say this as a competitive battler myself. Nothing is wrong with enjoying it, I do too but the criticism is still valid.
+Princess Astarotha The whole breeding system is extremely complex, a kid would never get what is going on. Marketed for kids, but certainly not only made for kids. Building the right team and breeding them with the optimal stats isn't exactly "brainless". It's actually a very competitive game.
I heard a funny and quite true analogy to Pokemon's strategy. "People call Pokemon a glorified rock-paper-scissors game, but there are 17 different types of rocks, papers, and scizzors, and most of the Pokemon can be both rock and scissors." Though the competitive game can be even more that just that, the core game is basically that. Except some members of the elite four who actually use set up moves to wreck my face that one time I was not prepared. Although I am an avid fan of Pokemon for reasons not entirely tied to gameplay, this video was still hilarious.
Exclaimer999 I played blue, red and yellow several times and played half-way through silver, but after recently trying Black 2 (and I really played a few hours) I decided not to ever touch Pokémon again. It really hasn't changed at all. I 100% agree with everything Yahtzee (that's not his real name, right?) has said, except that the boss fights are hard. More than 600? Are they f*ckin' kidding me? It already took enough of my childhood to collect 150(151)... Also the whole cutesy "everything is fine, everything is lovely, everything smiles at you as it passes by or watches you from thirty feet across the street"-atmosphere drives me mad. I think that that might have gotten even worse from Pokémon Red, Blue and Yellow... "Hi, there! I like the way you walk and I love my Pokémon very much and I give them nutritional and tasty snacks all the time. Now let's make our pets cut, poison, burn and shock each other until they fall into a temporary coma..."
Exclaimer999 If it weren't for Pokémon, you would be killing and dissecting small animals. No you would have moved on to bigger game by now. Thank Pokémon for focusing the destructive urges of insane people on abusing digital animals that don't really suffer when tortured.
The people in the Pokemon universe who don't care about Pokemon all died because in the grim, unforgiving reality of Pokemon even taking a brief walk beyond the city walls results in being assaulted by every wild monster in sight. Either that or they died by being torn apart by the mad people who attack you on the streets who say terrifyingly unrelated things like 'My boyfriend is great!' or 'Fashion is the only thing that matters!' before setting loose the beasts of war. They're like Splicers, or perhaps this hellish reality has driven them beyond sane human discourse, pushed them into a state of feral survivalism.
Wow, that is incredibly impressive, you must have had next to no human interaction ever! I love pokemon, but that is just extreme! Just going to point out that I am being way over the top sarcastic, I am not actually trying to insult you.
***** No, that's a pretty accurate assessment of the month of so it took to get them all. But then I am quite a shut in, so it was actually pretty pleasant.
04whim I am a shut in as well, dun like people too much, get nervous. Once I get to know people, I am fine, but otherwise I am really bad at this thing that humans call, "Social Interaction." Lol, and I work at a Tim Horton's as well, so that is a massive stress causer and a half every time I go into work. If you don't know what Tim Horton's is, imagine McDonald's but coffee.
Luke Nichols Kind of not, no. But that's besides the point. I misspoke, the whole thing took about four or five months, there was just one month where I had as little face to face human interaction as physically possible and that was where I got it finished. Save for the twelve legendaries you can't legally obtain in shiny which I will admit to cheating for, which I still feel validated in since that's the only way to get them.
***** well of course I'm not going to stop. Pokemon has problems but they're not bad problems like cod or ass-creed. They add new stuff to game play. Story stays pretty good. There are tons of combinations of Pokemon teams to choose from to make gameplay unique through every play through. It's flaws are very apparent, but they dont kill the game they just make the game what it is
Jordan Windham-Benford Oh my god, I finally found someone else who didn't like the mega evolutions! Yes! Also, I'm surprised your comments are actually readable, since saying that Yahtzee was 100% right about people who like Pokemon is effectively admitting that you're a madman.
StudiosUntitled I only hate the mega-evolutions because they could've been used to make a lot of Pokemon more useable in online matches that we never used before... Nope Chuck Testa All mega-evolutions did was reinforce the same old Pokemon and permanently cement them on every team. Really did the pseudo-legendary Pokemon really need a boost? Mega-evolution should have been given to Pokemon we never use so that it adds more variety to the game. It's over 700 Pokemon between all the games. Im sure there has to be more to most Pokemon teams then lucario, gengar, and garchomp.
Sincerely, in a world of which you can teach a mouse to help you capture any mythical creature you encounter from the lowly caterpillar up to pseudo-deity Dragons and beyond, why the hell would anyone *not* be interested in them? Is there a remotely credible reason for any society to not take advantage of their most bountiful and powerful natural resources? Particularly when some are cute and adorable and some are so awesome that just associating with them makes you feel like a badass?
the trick to the loooooong pace of a Pokemon game? emulator with a fast forward button. (oh and for the people who will inevitably shout "pirate!", i own all my roms in physical form.)
The best thing about the game Bravely Default is the ability to control battle speed on the fly, so you can just fast-forward through every animation and just do the moves.
I find it baffling how the people at Gamefreak never thought of introducing a quick-battle mechanic in their games. The vastly superior Shin Megami Tensei games all have it. Would avoid the need to frameskip using an emulator.
I don't think most players actually "catch em all". But I guess the briefing given by the professor at the start usually implies that the goal is that.
It's funny that Yahtzee says Black and White don't matter when these are the only games where it matters slightly in how the game changes, also it's the one game that actually has a story.
Are you kidding me? As someone who played the originals, no, there was no actual story. You were a kid who went on a journey fought some mafia gang that wanted money, and battled the champion. End game. Black and White: You're a kid who runs into a gang who are actually political activists with N who has been surrounded by pokemon all his life that he can understand them. Having been secluded to abused Pokemon, he believes that they are being unfairly used by humans and wishes to liberate them and mediate between humans and pokemon so as to create a peaceful world for everyone, but then comes across the main trainer whose pokemon oddly adore them, something he's never experienced, which then causes ideals to be questioned. On White, which I believe is superior to black in that it shows more character development on the side of N in him looking for the truth after being so narrowly confined by his father who is only manipulating him, his ideals weakening because of the main character's pokemon's loyalty to them. Even saying the line, "If all trainers were like you, I wouldn't be here." Then this could be used as an allegory for politics and is it ethically right to pretend the minority doesn't exist, just because most people are happy with a decision and those that are abused by the system virtually disappear in the stream of things. And gives proper ideas to the headship of power, as there is always a figurhead who is manipulated by a stronger force, and while this spokesperson may be trying to do good totally and completely, their party can be going behind their back and is really the one causing the problems. Or even, should people be criticized and demonized for their ideals just because they do not add up to the general ideas of society?
***** I'll admit yellow didn't have much story, but there is still story, and with crystal there is the plot regarding suicune and the ressurection of team rocket, which causes massive repurcussions. Then there is platinum, with coherent story, even going so far as to introduce what are effectively deities. The story doesn't need to have a political aspect, or a kicked puppy, in N's example, to be a story. The story in the older games isn't exactly front and center in your face, black and white are the first to do that method, and also purposely drop the 'it's like dog-fighting' comparison. Story can be subtle.
jtnachos16 But then you realize that it's stupid to make pokemon dieties or gods because you can still catch them in the game, so I guess that makes you god at the end of the day, or the fact that Team Rocket never was an actual threat. All they wanted was money. They're a mafia with a person who already has money at the top. All these other plots boil down to Why? What's the purpose? Whereas you can actually say N has a legitimate point in his views, even by the people who disagree with him. The old lady in the secodn city you go to after you hear Team Plasma's speech says, "Pokemon will do everything in their power for their trainer and in return, they get love." Well gee, that's totally fair! Obvious imbalance of give and take, but then you can compare it to a mother-child relationship where all the parent really can get in return is love from their children, but then it's the trainer who has total control, not the pokemon, so what stops the pokemon from being forced into such actions? The story of Black and White doesn't delve that deep on its own, you have to think. There are so many lines of thought in either direction that are just sorta hinted at and requires you to actually have a brain. Granted the developers apparently thought that was too much for players, so they added in Ghetsis' diabolical plan of taking over the world, completely lamp-shading the actual thought-provoking and morally ambiguous aspect of the story.
***** I never said that black and white didnt have an interesting plot, Merely that there were other pokemon games with story, as far as team rocket not being a threat, They, in red blue and yellow, had almost completely taken over kanto, and even damaged as they were in gold silver and crystal, they still managed to cause massive trouble in johto, and brought kanto to its knees by disabling the power plant. Nintendo succeded with their 'buzz-word' story in black and white. For that matter, your question of 'why'? Team rocket: take over the world/make the ultimate pokemon. Teams Magma and Aqua, they wanted to change the environment to allow for more people/pokemon (I cant speak to aqua's logic in this, but magma at least had a legit reasoning, so long as they didnt take it to far). With Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, Basically Cyrus was pissed off at the injustices of the world (more specifically their effect on him) and decided to rebuild the world in an attempt to make it a better place. The guy's nuts, but he has a cause. Havent played X and Y yet, because I'm not shelling out a ton of money for a system that there are currently only 3-5 games I'd play on it.
ghetsis was dumb cause of his wide array of moves. the pokemon i happend to have (party of six only) were always super weak to one of the moves his pokemon had. his stupid fuckin hydreigon...
Okay sure, to be fair, Ghetsis is tough, final N is fairly tough, and I recal one or two of the elite four being decently hard. But that's it! Everyone else is a complete pushover. This is a game with THREE fucking rivals and it doesn't have a remotely difficult boss until the very end. Pokemon has never been about ball-crushing difficulty, but this is still absurd. I was done with Pokemon after the disappointment of BW. Could some vet tell me if the latter games keep to this pattern?
yeah pokemon does need some work but I find it more entertaining than running around shooting people for 6 hours then going online to shoot more people.
Blackestfang or prototype and make them spew tentacles out of their ass making the hang from building while getting ripped from 8 different spots while running at 120 mph.
yeah its obviously better since with those 6 hours in pokemon you run around killing pokemon and trainers and if you get bored of that as well you go online to kill some players.
***** pokemon has more in it then you think. making a team to battle people online takes 6 hours because you must carefully plan out items, moves, ability, nature, and much more. Plus completing the pokedex if much more rewarding then playing those other games with 718 pokemon it requires hard work instead of "pew pew I have a better gun" which is all shooting games are. Online battling in pokemon is like violent chess you must predict what the other person is doing and one screw up could cost you the match. you can't dodge, you can't recover its all hope you get lucky and your hard work pays off. Have you actually played the games? My guess is no because then you would get a basic idea of what I mean. not everyone is gonna love shooting people in the face, I rather send out my rotom wash form and make people cry with its speed and trollish move-set.
ShowbizSpy any normal person would have assumed i was joking,blackestfang is a good example, you on the other hand need to get that stick out of your ass and relax.
The developers of Pokemon are absolute masters of making it SEEM like it hasn't changed in 20 years to the casual observer/nostalgic hindbrain while gradually refining the combat system and carefully incrementing the potential for strategy. Although of course it still isn't ever necessary to USE said strategy. Modern pokemon could really do with a punishing hard mode that gives you some special reward for completing it, like some breeding esoterica which lets you choose the child pokemon's ability which the casual player wouldn't know what to do with anyway.
+CrappyCondor Because Game Freak wants to cater to the younger smartphone generation that get distracted the instant they have to try at something. That's not me being pessimistic either that's more or less the reason they gave us.
TH-cam GAME: Take a shot every time you see a comment that starts with something like "Yahtzee has a point, but ". For extra fun, take another shot for each comment that talks about things Yahtzee already addressed, like the type of person that breeds for shinies/IVs and is obsessed with perfection. Just be sure to book an ambulance in advance if you plan on going past the first page of comments.
+ChibiTails **adjusts glasses** i'm sorry but you don't understand that pokemon is actually very competedojtntdfgkndfgknfgh I CAN'T DO IT IT'S SO DAMN BORING, IF YOU PLAYED ONE GAME YOU PLAYED THEM ALL.
Excuse me sir, but I make use of Turabian format in my ridiculous defenses of Pokémon red version 3002 (also known as Pokémon white). APA... what poppycock!
Anyone can call having a very specific taste in games nitpicking, but nothing he is saying is untrue, pokemon is repeatative, the plot is always EXACTLY the same, the bad guys are always essentially the same coordinated outfit wearing team "insert random "cool" word here" with some kind of plot to serve some random purpose. The pokemon ARE becoming less creative as well, they are just throwing out any old idea these days because because pokemon fuck you xD.The Combat is very much the same as he describes it as well, turn based isn't for everyone and it really is about use this element against that element, I mean sure there is some variance there but it is still pretty basic at it's core. these things aren't nit picking, they are facts, wiether you see them as nitpicks or not, He isn't talking from a point of view of a veteran pokemon game fan, just someone who has played one of the originals and is now playing a new one. I understand that pokemon has add a lot of vanity stuff to the game, and new "advanced" ways of leveling pokemon and such now, but like I said this is a review from someone who hasn't played and beaten every pokemon game under the sun, he is looking at it from a perspective of a new player who doesn't know really know everything under the sun about pokemon and is not fanboyed out by the formula the follow. I like pokemon, or at least I used to ( I gave up at diamond and pearl) but I can completely understand where Yahtzee comes from in most all of his reviews, at the very least the perspective. damn this is one long ass comment.
Erwin Schrodinger ? Black and White really had the only good plot, IMO, considering that they (they meaning N) had an actual REASON for doing what they did. Yes, their methods made no sense, but it's definitely not the same plot as "Stop the bad guys because what they're doing is so obviously wrong", but more "Stop the bad guys because you want to prove their ideals and truth wrong."
Monique Kalu Well Regardless of Motive or reasoning or Motive the formula is the same, and the events that occur are the same as a result which is what Yahtzee is getting at, and he has a point.
Erwin Schrodinger No he doesn't he's ripping on it for the sake of ripping on it. The formula is what makes a Pokemon game a Pokemon game and i know i'm not the only fan of the franchise that would be pissed if Nintendo changed it. They have the mystery dungeon and conquest franchises for that shit and every Pokemon main series game does things different and adds to the lore. Attacking Pokemon and its fanbase for no other reason than "Because he can" isn't having a point it's being a tool.
Pokemon is one of those games that looks the same on the surface. But once you get past the main story. You find out there is a lot more to it. People who've never played pokemon seem to think it only introduces one mechanic per game, but when we started we had 15 types and psychics had no counters. Generation 2 introduced a hundred new pokemon, two new types, rebalanced the type-chart, and added hundreds of new moves, as well as introducing the concept of breeding and gender as well as weather. Not to mention the concept of berries and held items. It also introduced Shiny-pokemon and the concept of having more than four pokeball types Generation three introduced more pokemon, Double battles, abilities that drastically changed the flow of battle, expanded on weather, added several main-stay moves like Taunt, and vastly expanded on the battle tower concept. it introduced the concept of natures to allow further customization of pokemon, and added several new concepts of items, making it more than just boosting one type of move or something. It also introduced pokemon contests. It expanded berries drastically so berries could do so much. It also offered new pokeball types yet again. Generation four defined moves as physical or special. Thunderpunch used to be special because it was electric, now it was physical because it's a punch. This made Dark types suddenly really good. It also introduced the concept of giving most single-ability pokemon another secondary ability to choose from. Several formerly overshadowed types now got powerful moves, and the new pokemon were actually very usable. The early normal/flying type was a top condendor for one of the best in the series. It expanded on several previous concepts, and offered the most challenging champion in the entire series, who still hasn't even been equaled. Generation five is my least favorite, but it still added triple battles, rotation battles, hidden abilities, and yet still more items, pokemon, abilities, and the like. It introduced the least and is the least fun, but they can't all be winners. Generation Six introduced mega evolutions, horde battles, shook up the fire/fighting thing we'd be lulled into with a fire/psychic. The introduction of the Fairy-type and re-balancing of the type-chart yet again brought the game closer to some sense of balance. It also transitioned the game from pixily graphics to fully 3d ones that made it so much more pleasing to the eye. At a glance Pokemon games are very similar, and while it is true that their stories seem the same, the games aren't if you are someone who plays more than the main story. But if you don't like them, I don't really care. Because I do, and saying that they are all the same is objectively untrue.
Yahtzee: "Pokemon is made to appeal to mad people" "Insanity can be defined as doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result" -Albert Einstein (Shinies, anyone?) Edit: Come to think of it. Pokemon can also be attributed to slavery, animal cruelty, and eugenics.
Ryen Elvira That doesn't prove he never said it. In fact, it's impossible to prove he never said it, or indeed any negative. It's possible he said it, it's possible he didn't say it. However, nobody here said he created the line.
Euclid IsMyBro It certainly can be "used as a quote used by him." For instance, see above. It *is.* Also, try to pack it in with the hissy fits, you'll give yourself a stroke.
I know Yahtzee doesn't like the JRPG-style or turn based combat in general so it's not surprising he didn't like this. Regardless I feel like saying that B/W wasn't an evolution of the series is a bit misleading. Not only was it by far the most story heavy entry, actually giving you reasons to move from town-to-town but after about the mid-point it actually required a fair amount of tactical logic. Every Pokemon game prior to it could be beaten with a single formula; capture the earliest flying type you can find and level only it so that it can one-hit KO every enemy in the game, even the secret bosses. B/W was nothing like that, by the Elite Four they had included so many challenging double types you either had to make clever use of your whole team, or spend fifteen hours leveling that dragon type you finally got from the area just prior to it. And that's not even considering that there's half a continent left to explore after the supposed "end" of the game. Unfortunately it seems like X/Y was content to go back to the bog standard, perhaps too many people complained they were actually having to use brain cells in B/W? Regardless like I said I wouldn't expect Yahtzee to like this game, it's everything he hates, but to suggest it hasn't changed at all since R/B is a bit disingenuous.
Goldenkitten1 I kinda think X/Y wanted to push the mechanics envelope, since they didn't really know how to push the story envelope any further than B/W.
If you don't enjoy the bog standard turn-based combat (had my fill when I was 5 years old playing stuff like max mesyria, murloc rpg and final fantasy sonic x on flash sites) then no small tweaks will make it click for you, so if you know that you share an opinion with yahtzee then his statement is perfectly true. If you're on the edge then you should not listen to an admitted extremist on one side. Personally I like the competitive battles, since the system works heartbreakingly well for them, but everything up there is so tedious for me that I just never finished a pokemon game since gen 2 (played both on emulators on my slide phone in middle school). I do play the occasional round of pokemon showdown though. It's usually pretty fun.
I can forgive XY because it was meant to get 3D modeling out of the way, but everything after is inexcusable. ORAS hurt especially because Emerald is an important part of my childhood.
He should do XY because I wanna hear him mention how braindead easy it is. I mean if Yahtzee actually 'died' a handful of times like he makes it out in this video, I wonder if taking any sort of challenge the games had before XY would be a good or a bad thing in his eyes. And yeah, I want to hear him shit on Team Flare too.
Pokemon has always been easy tbh. X&Y EXP Share doesn't decrease the difficulty, it just saves time. Yeah, you can end too high level, but it won't change much.
DarkiLordito Pokemon has always been easy relative to many other games. However, in all the other Pokemon games I've played, I've usually blacked out once or twice, or at least came somewhat close a few times, usually from something unexpected like critical hits or some other RNG related battle mechanic. But in XY, I don't even think I came close to losing a SINGLE battle. The problem with XY doesn't necessarily stem directly from the Exp share though, but moreso how the trainers aren't designed with it in mind. If the Exp Share returns in Sun and Moon, all that needs to be done is make the trainers higher level... Okay, and maybe work a bit on the AI here and there.
Ya know, with all the attempted convincing from my friends and several forum arguments, I still don't see nor do I understand how Pokemon is competitive. It's like playing with a game I've known to call as "War" with a regular deck of cards, where you hold your stacked deck and flipping the top card and placing it on the table. Higher card wins. It's all luck based and that's what Pokemon reminds me of: a luck based fight where the one who misses the least and crits the most wins. Yeah, I know there's more to it than that, but it's all nuance. I don't consider a player opting to NOT bring out his grass type against a fire a smart move. That's just common sense. If common sense was considered competitive, the world would be a better place.
the competetive part is raising your pokemon to the maximum possible potentiel. you have EV's to consider what pokemon to bring in the moveset and the nature and then how you can use that as a strategy.
Dice12K The competitive part of pokemon is not really ev training and grinding, but the way you forge your team to cover each others weak points. yes its common sense to not use a grass type against a fire type but that same grass type might have be faster and might have moves that are strong against fire and so on. Yeah i couldn"t see it at first then i tried it and i got my ass kicked by a little bird (taillow)
So, we fall down to Hearthstone's "competitive" uh... thing. The one who builds a better deck, or in this case: team, wins. Note: The one with more and better Legendary Cards properly integrated in their deck wins. How to get the Legendary Cards (other than buying them)? GRINDING; keep playing and winning so you can get more card packs. Yeah, Arena mode works to balance this issue out, but this leads me to the question: What's the point then? Enough digressing, back to Pokemon! How to find out which Pokemon have that special... thing about them? WIKIPEDIA! Or actually, in this case, Bulbapedia! THEN GRIND! Grind until you're suffering from carpel tunnel because all those Pokemon aren't going to get themselves to level 100. Even sitting around with a cheat for infinite dru- err, "Rare Candies" to raise them all is going to be time consuming. It still doesn't give off the competitive feeling you get from games that are actually really competitive. Here's the thing: You're not going to find any more *GOOD* and *original* teams *anymore*. Yeah, there're almost 700 of the Pokemon and 700! (that's 700 factorial) is too large to try and calculate, but the number is immediately divided by 500! (again, that's 500 factorial) due to the obviously bad team builds you can have. I've seen several hundred builds with the same bunch of friends I mentioned in my original comment in this chain. They had Pokemon in their team ranging back from Gen 1 sometimes and not just the memorable ones like Charizard and Pikachu. They aren't even hardcore competitors. They just play to pass the time while waiting for their next class. There are around 10 players, so... over 1 year. Imagine every hardcore Pokemon player in Japan who works exponentially harder than they do. I think all the possible decent teams have already been thought of, tested and an anti-that-build was made to counter it. There won't be a "Best Pokemon Team" since it's possible there'll be a "Anti-Best Pokemon Team." So yeah.... Not feeling the competition. Just another reason why Pokemon players might all just be accountants. xP
pokemon is more casual compared to other games due to the fact that its still a kids game, competitive is just a term , basically stating your serious about devoting time to battle real life players via wi fi. In short its a competitive kids game played by age groups of at least 5 to 30, of course it won't be as competitive as games such as street fighter, soul calibur and tekken, However its still fun there is a reason the franchise hasn't died
While the core mechanics for the game has stayed the same, they have added a shit ton to the series, improving it with each iteration. I've only played Pokemon Yellow and White and there is a huge improvement between the two.
Please, enlighten me. What has it that Nintendo has added to the series other than stupid cosmetic changes (IE animations that pokemon make once summoned), and gambling? It's the same game. If you striped all the cosmetics off the games, made them so they look the same as Pokemon Blue, and made someone play them, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
ZombieProgrammer1921 First of all, The stats they get when leveling up ARENT random and can be controlled (and until X/Y, it was crontolled through a very second-party way), this includes things like, natures, EV's and IV's. and the way you train the pokemon varies depending of the kind of batlle and strategy you will use OH YEAH, there is 4 types of battle, that MAY sound simple, but the strategic scene changes radically depending on them, I will not explaind them but i will name them for you so you can google them. Classic single battles, double battles, triple battles and rotation battles. The way and quantity of ways you can interact with other players around the globe has greatly improoved, specially on B/W and X/Y. Also on items area, there are way too much ways to affect all types of battle, not to forget how they can improove and alter training and breeding.
Oh my! Instead of having a drawn out fight with this random trainer; of having to only battle with 1 v 1, I can speed it up only a portion of the time with 2 v 2 or some crap. No. There are no new ways that items can affect battles that you couldn't do in since Gold/Silver; potions are still potions, and everyone really only uses stupid little items that don't really do anything. Granted, I will give you that the way you can interact with other people has improved, but that is purely hardware dependent. And lastly, it goes back to that every Pokemon has had the same goals, challenges, events, obstacles, and mechanics as the previous one released. It was okay back after they pumped out Gold/Silver, but after that they knew they had no where to go except for introducing more Pokemon. And they have even ran out of ideas in that department (An ice cream Pokemon with 2 evolutions, a chandelier Pokemon, and whatever Licky-Licky is supposed to be).
Im sad to tell you that is increibly clear you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. If you have any actual and real interest on the topic of how pokemon has indeed made its gameplay way deeper than many believe, instead of just bashing something you dont really know much about (outside of generic hate comments from the internet), I would advise you to google and search for any explanation related to "pokemon metagame". Granted the game has the same "single player offline premise", but since ruby, the multiplayer scene is way bigger than you would ever believe without the corret source of information. Have a nice day.
I suggest you check out the webcomic "Mokepon" where the main character is that indifferent person who points out how insane the system is at every turn.
One time I lost all the bookmarks for webcomics I was following. I got most of them back, but felt something was missing. Then I realized what it was: the bastardization of a beloved franchise that is Mokepon. Can't wait until Chapter 17 Page 33.
What I love most about this are the comments. Oh wow someone who doesn't like Pokemon? I don' t know why this is such a unfathomable concept for some. I love Pokemon to death, but it's not the only game I play. Zero Punctuation here ((sorry I'm new to your videos)) is just part of an actual gaming community. It might be a bit presumptuous of me to say, but from where I am standing, I see a good chunk of People that play the Pokemon video games hardly play any other type of game. You can't expect someone who isn't all that into Pokemon , and plays actual video games as they come out hoping to find something good, to fall for it like some love stricken nostalgia critic who wears big fat rose colored nerd glasses. It's not really the end of the world if he doesn't like a Pokemon game. I hardly see people get that up in arms when someone says, "I don't like Mortal Combat" or something. Maybe I'm thinking too much again, but even though I love to play Pokemon and despite being 22 years old and the concept of the games haven't growing old with me in the last 12 years, I still find fun with it. And after all isn't that what a game is supposed to do? If you had fun with it who fucking cares what someone else thinks. If you had fun with it, it served it's purpose. If you didn't then it failed to hold that persons interest, but it doesn't cement its status as a good or bad game. Sorry Zero Punctuation for the long rant you might not see, but I applaud your reviews. You tell it like it is and you give no fucks. I bet you hate/don't like a lot of games I do, but as gamers, shouldn't we just shut up and get along based on the fact that we like video games? Keep up the good work. -End rant.
Senthain Not for me. There are normal people who play pokemon. Even people you would never think would play pokemon if you et them outside of youtube like Shofu, Shizzy VI, Maxezzy. I've met Max and that was before I found out he plays pokemon he's an awesome guy but never took him for pokemon until I told him I played it and he told me about his channel. I'd like to see Zero go to them and call them crazy in a joking manner sure he may be right but in a rude manner he'd be crazy too if he did that.
I used to religiously play Pokemon games, but with the release of X and Y I found that they just weren't as appealing. Black and White were okay, as were they sequels, but X and Y really felt lazy. The new Pokemon were right away being compared to the old ones and they mixed them at the beginning so that it didn't really feel like a brand new region. It felt like the creators got lazy and decided to mix in old Pokemon in order to save time, and as such it took me a really long time to complete the game because I just wasn't captivated by it the same way I was Platinum or Emerald. Still going to buy the new Ruby, though. Hoenn calls to me once more.
I wonder if Yahtzee realizes that the story of Black and White, as well as its sequels, is the strongest in all of the Pokemon games with the exception of the Explorers spin-offs
I have to admit I wasn't expecting to find this a likeable review (myself being a Pokémon nostalgia obsessed geek) but I actually like the points he brings up here. I actually got a pretty good laugh out of N being referred to as a twat because he is by far the most self obsessed loser in the entire franchise and only displays any form of redeemable quality at the end, a bad point for any character.
N was amazing (by pokemon standards anyway) Rather than a standard villain like in every other game in the series (or in most other RPG's for that matter) ne challenged the very notion of what the game had been built on (is it right to trap animals in tiny balls/a computer for the rest of their entire lives and use them as slaves). It was a good and funny review though.
Heh, well I always found it rather pretentious, anyone with half a brain cell without a personal vendetta against Pokemon can see training them isn't animal cruelty!
Alex Magnei I don't know take away the kiddy surrealism and it is basically trapping animal in boxes and only letting them out to fight to the death with other animals.
Sorry but since when does a Pokémon die through battling? (Don't say Blue's Raticate, it clearly says in the game "Blue's Raticate fainted" and people just made that bullshit up as some kind of ghost story) and it is clear that through battling Pokémon grow to LIKE their trainer more.
I remember when Black and White came out. I remember because it flooded the Internet like crazy. As I grew up, I always seemed to see Pokemon out of the corner of my eye. It wasn't until I got to college that I met people that still liked Pokemon. X and Y were announced, and everyone went CRAZY. I actually checked it out and was surprised that it looked vastly different from the other games from the series. And I'd seen snippets of the games. Always 2D pixels graphics. But OH man, did the new games change that. I ended up getting a 3DS myself, JUST for the sole purpose of playing this game. And you know what it was that won me over? The frickin' Nintendogs rip-off section of the game. There's literally a section where you can pet, feed, and play non-life threatening games with the little creatures, and I literally spent SO MUCH TIME just doing that. When I got to the later parts of the game and caught the legendary, I was able to pet them and feed them as well, and that was INSANE because the thing is so huge it takes up BOTH screens. I didn't really care about catching them all. I just caught the ones I liked and went from there. I ended up with a lot of psychic types and ghost types, because the ones i liked turned out to be in those categories. There was SO MUCH to do in that game, I was surprised when I finished the story half of the game, and that I could do more after the story ended! In the end, X and Y converted me to Pokemon. I can't say I'll really play any of the older games (there's only so many I can play), but I certainly enjoyed this. From what I understand, Black and White are very different, and not a whole lot of people liked it. There was something about an ice-cream cone POkemon? Idk...there's a cotton candy pokemon in X and Y. You call that one. It's definitely not a game for everybody, and given Yahtzee's tastes in gaming, I can see why he doesn't like it. TBC can be really tedious. Grinding around for monsters is time-consuming. The story's themselves aren't incredibly profound. The games were created by a man who loved to catch bugs as a kid, and it certainly shows. So to make a game where you catch and train strange creatures is not surprising. The real surprise is that the franchise blew up the way it did. It's pretty amazing.
the ice cream pokemon is really hated along with the trash bag pokemon, really the people who say this are just probably genwunners. and you should try older games too, especially pokemon Heartgold or Soulsilver on the ds or gold and silver on the Gameboy color. But Vanilluxe and Trubbish just make genwunners (assholes so full of nostalgia they only like gen 1, red, blue, and yellow, and just give the bullshitiest reasons why the others suck) to say they are running out of ideas. And the pokemon amie thing was fun XD I wish there was like an app for it, that would be really cool.
@@cyruscrompton8221Yeah, gen 1 fanboys seem to forget things like Mankey, Rattata, and Butterfree. So many ripped off from real creatures back then too.
"There's only really one strategy in Pokemon and that's to use whatever the other guy is weak to." ........ I'm not saying it, I'm just thinking it very loudly.
Pretty sure the reason it's stayed the same is because as the saying goes "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Sure there are slight gimmicks that are added on and new pokemon, moves and the sort (not to mention types thanks to gen 6). But the thing is, these are added and do not break what isn't broken, they simply improve, in my opinion... And yet gen 5 if my least favourite, which seems hypocritical, yes, it partially is, what wit me saying all add-ons improve, but from all of them I have played, gen 5 just wasn't as enjoyable for me as the others. Granted my favourite generation is the 3rd, so in itself that had mixed reception from what I've heard, nostalgia is a bitch, but that's the only one that has any factor of nostalgia when it comes to judging them in which I like. Let me put it out there, I do enjoy all of the pokemon games, but I find this generation (back and white) was the LEAST enjoyable, it still was, I played through it until the end, but others weremore satisfying.
While I do appreciate the beatdown you gave Pokémon White here, I do think you went a little too hard on it and missed some of the good stuff. Yes, that "use whatever the enemy is weak to" strategy works, but there's much more in-depth strategies that are more rewarding. I've really had to spend minutes thinking ahead to figure out what exactly I could do without getting wiped out the next turn, resulting in me pulling some slickly-planned fast ones. It really does feel good. The soundtrack is brilliantly done and the story is a bit heavier than your average Pokémon game, having some actual hefty substance and a sad moment at the end. And the largest thing about Pokémon is online battles. THE largest thing about them. People use Pokémon trained in ludicrously specific ways and use the most perfectly-crafted synergizing setup. They spend hundreds of hours getting their team together, and then they beat the shit out of all challengers. But really, maintaining a Pokémon team is interesting and fun. I'd say X and Y are an improvement over B&W though.
Uhm. Strategies that are more rewarding? How is doing strategy more "rewarding" than doing the simple way? That's like me having to kill someone, he stands in front of me, and instead of simply shooting him in the face i decide to climb up a house, jump down, stab him in the throat, put a grenade in his mouth and then throw him into a river. The outcome is about the same, but it's just way easier to just shoot him. What? You need strategy for Online battles? 1: i didn't know the Campaign was online. 2: What if someone just doesn't have internet?
soschar2050 Did you really just ask how shooting a guy in the face is more rewarding than climbing up a house, jumping down, stabbing him in the throat, putting a grenade in his mouth and throwing him into a river
Reakishin what i'm trying to say is using strategy in the Pokemon campaigns is basically saying "why make it easy if you can make it needlessly complicated?"
Pokemon is the #1 selling franchise in gaming history. It's also what's wrong with the video game industry. Gamers will eat up the same old rehashed shit no matter how hard they pretend to want innovation.
I swear I never seen whatever episode you're talking about. I've always been cynical of Pokemon. And it's not because it pumps copy-and-paste sequels out its ass. It's because it pumps *genuinely bad* copy-and-paste sequels out its ass. The entire game is built on a bad foundation of gameplay devices, and yet its these concepts that make it so perfectly designed to be able to be done over and over again. As bullshit as the games are, the concept really is just ingenious.
***** They're both copy and paste shit. But at least Call of Duty was created as a quality example of its genre. Pokemon has always been a terrible RPG.
***** They add more standardized crap, throw in about one new game mechanic, and tack on a gimmick or two. It's the bare minimum requirements to make a sequel.
I'm getting sick of the "There's too many pokemon, how am I supposed to catch them all?" I've never met anyone... ANYONE who actually caught all of the original 151, and with this many pokemon, it's easier to make a unique team of effective dudes, meaning few people you encounter have the same exact 6 fucking pokemon. I mean, in gen 6 you STILL encounter the same Blazakins and Scizors etc, but most people have pretty unique teams as a result of more and more pokemon.
It’s been ten years since this review came out, and I can say confidently, that Pokémon is still using the same gameplay model and people still enjoy it
I find amazing how pokemon can go up with so little innovation to the point it seems that the fans will suck the cock of any change. Seriously, it is hilarious how you find many fanarts that are better than the actual pokemon (even more so with this mega thing from digimon word DS gameplay) and still worship it like the best thing ever. i remember they calling triple battle something so innovative like it was never before. And how BW was having photos from japan players and then nintendo giving sue warns to sites that POSTED IT. Then nintendo makes global releases 2 years later and everything is fine. Astonishing.
Once again Yahtzee nailed it. Pokemon is another game on Nintendo's ever continuing recycle list, along with Mario, Zelda, and Metroid. They know that they can release the same shit every few years and it is guaranteed to sell millions of copies.
Goombalove3000 Yes, he was exaggerating for comedic effect in this video, however looking back on this over three years later it is clear he was right.
Your experience with the Electric-type gym leader actually amuses me a bit, because it contradicts what you thought about Pokemon. It is unbudging, but it's still been evolving. New tactics are involved, even through the storyline and not just pvp. New types for new Pokemon require new strategy, such as pulling out that one Pokemon with a Rock move that Emolga will go down in two hits from. Plus, the part with N is hilarious that you had trouble with him (granted, I was prepared for him when I faced him but I had a balanced team too and didn't know what Pokemon he had), but his twattiness aspect is respected from your point of view; his viewpoint on life can in fact get annoying for someone who isn't invested in the story (gasp, story in Pokemon?). Also, you don't particularly NEED to catch 'em all anymore; that's just a novelty concept with Pokemon these days, specifically because of the 700+ ones running around (and about 100 of those don't run around and are exclusives and honestly truly are for mad people). Many people just collect off of the online places or the FAQ forums or just get lucky with their own findings. You could just take your seven or eight Pokemon and just be done with it, or breed from the bottom up and make new Pokemon fit for fighting. And that got more and more viable with each passing game. Also ironic that Skyla made you compare the experience to bird training...gonna let you think about that one if you're actually reading this. I'll commend you for your raising several differently-typed Pokemon and not raising just the starter and overleveling it to the point where it curbstomps everything. Tepig, Blitzle, Sandile if I'm guessing correctly...all good choices.
"In brief, a game for collectors who can't function in society without having 100 Percent of something" Wow, he totally got me. I Always go out of my way to complete as much of a game as possible, so long as it's possible and I don't have to waste more than 2 hours to get the requirement.
Pokemon seems to be a hit or miss with most people. Either you've played and enjoyed them all, or you played the gen current of your childhood and never again. My case is the former. I played gold in 2001 when I was 7 or 8 (and I think I played the rom of red before that when I didn't have a gameboy), and have played every pokemon since. But the part about playing only the gen of your childhood is key: there is essentially a gen for each generation of children, and I believe that is largely the point of them making multiple games. Just try handing pokemon red on the GB to today's 10-year-olds; they would hate it. Also, to anyone who doesn't understand this, the point of the game isn't to catch them all; that was just the slogan early on to create excitement and a collectors' frenzy, back when the game was a largely new concept and it needed the publicity.
I'm different to that. I've played and enjoyed everything...up until ORAS and SM, and haven't bought another since. Also, I believe lots of kids can't stand RBY because it's so dated and clunky. They started getting a lot more polished after.
Nah, B2 and W2 took the good story from the originals and went, "Yeah, some stuff happened after. But it's all good now. Oh and something about a cat or something."
I happen to know lot of other people who play Pokemon. The thing is, you don't need to complete the Pokedex, and with the features they've now added they made catching them all a lot easier. I actually liked that gym leader with the Emolga. I thought it was actually really creative to trick the player into getting a ground type only to fool them. Getting a ground type in that battle also makes it easier because the Emolga can't use volt switch. I also more or less like Pokemon designs, though some of them are really stupid (like red and white ball and larger red and white ball, and pile of sludge and bigger pile of sludge). A lot of them, though, I actually really like. Yet again, I understand people not liking the franchise. It gets stale really quickly and the plot is always annoyingly identical, even in the spinoffs. From a tactical standpoint, a lot of Pokemon are head and shoulders better than others, so in order to win the game you sometimes need to sacrifice what you want for what is good. Also, most battles really are just won by switching in something that's strong against the enemy type, which gets boring and repetitive. And yeah, wild encounters are the most obnoxious things ever crafted.
+LunarD3A7H Blaziken is my favorite pokemon of all time. Never found any pokemon game challenging in the slightest since all you have to do is send out your starter for every battle and murder everything since it will be super over lvled if you only use that one. The only challenge comes from doing the after party of the games where you battle teams of set lvls.
As a Pokemon fan... eh, yeah, I can agree with what he's saying. I guess I'm not as big of a fan as my friends are due to the fact that I have better things to do than catch all 700+ Pokemon, or farm for perfect IVs and shinies. I'll say that the first and only time I caught a shiny I felt very happy with myself. I'll never forget the green wingull. But when my friends collect shinies like it's nobody's business it loses that feeling. But I digress. Maybe if I were a big enough fan I would be bitching and whining and taking Yahtzee's insults seriously. Christ, what has watching this show turned me into? Or was I already fit to enjoy this show? I love seeing Yahtzee tear apart games that others love and I am indifferent towards. I even enjoy Nintendo and I mostly agree with his rants on their games he disapproves of. Huh, and I love games like Papers Please and Earthbound, and so does he. Maybe I'm as much of a walking-talking-hubris as Yahtzee is, just lacking his simile-filled wit. TL;DR: Oh man I agree with you so much Yahtzee! We are so alike! *kisses Yahtzee's ass*
jazaniac I mean, it all does boil down to, "hit it with the attack it's weak to." Just more advanced versions of it. Or Sturdy-Destiny Bond, but that's just evil.
Kabobawsome I mean, there’s a style of team who literally wins the match by outliving the opposite side, using moves such as Will-o-Wisp, Toxic and Recover to do so. As much as I understand what he meant in the video, I cannot agree with this, since a lot of times there’s way more shit involved in a battle then just “use the move your opponent is weak against”.
@@vencedore1000 yeah, but he means in single player. When you go against other people, it might get strategic (assuming their Pokemon aren't 30-50 levels higher than yours). But against ai opponents, whacking away at things with corresponding anti-thing sticks is the way to go.
Death by Comedy Cemetarial Association Well that seems about right. Game Freak has been putting a lot of effort in making the endgame better for breeding/training/catching legendary and useful Pokémon for the competitive players. I mean, the single player mode got even worse after the Exp. Share change, but that and a few other changes made the 6th gen online battling quite better, as a lot of players who wouldn’t have the time to train their mons now could do it a lot faster.
Am I the only one who notices how Pokemon game covers went from basic starter pokemon to just throwing legends on the cover? Talk about a fucking spoiler.
All I think Pokemon really needs at this point is just a major balancing rework. They just need to change how the AI functions and how the difficulty works for the single player game. For the most part, the game is very easy with difficulty appearing in very simple, somewhat cheap difficulty spikes that involve being suddenly underleveled at certain junctures of the adventure. Otherwise, it's pretty easy to plow through the game with little serious resistance. What I hope Game Freak does eventually is make the AI considerably smarter, but less cheap. Difficulty for single player Pokemon mostly just involves surpassing level caps, making sure you grind enough to stay up to pace with difficulty curve, which is somewhat boring. If they make it so you don't have to grind endlessly, but the AI is more of a threat and you have to more strategically adapt to their Pokemon and battle styles, I think the gameplay will be much better for it. Make it more like competitive Pokemon, level the playing field. Make other trainers more of a threat and less of simply hordes of baddies to mow down during your romp from town to town.
I wish to add on top of what Yhatzee says. Fanboys proceed with caution. When playing this game it feels like a chore skipping through stupid dialogue that sounds exactly like the last generation and having to stop every single time I enter a town with a gym to grind a ton of xp to upgrade my pokemon 5 levels, which freezes the game entirely until I get enough xp to beat the gym leader who is way too powerful for you when you first enter the town. When you beat the gym leader you skip merrily along until you hit another wall of a gym leader who's pokemon have evolved into God. The games are not hard, they just take a while to complete, giving you the illusion of difficulty. The games are the same thing every generation and it's loved by fanboys and hypocrites who hate Call of Duty for being the same every game. I do not like COD I am just giving an example of what I think should be compared to Pokemon which doesn't even bother to change dialogue.
You could say the same of most other RPGs, but it doesn't really apply here. Sure you can beat it just by grinding, but the good thing about Pokemon is that if you create your team well you shouldn't have to, which is cleverly designed for a game that's aiming for mass appeal. And yes they are too similar.
KittXenn Gonna have to disagree there, because nothing I've ever tried has saved me from grinding. You always have to catch up, especially when new-age Gary starts popping up when I'm least prepared. I never had to do this in other RPGs. Even if there is the occasional side quest, atleast it has a story and you can skip it if you want. So...annoying gameplay and the same story from more than 10 years ago. Basically the COD of RPGs.
Lyushcho COD of RPGs? That's painful, although I'll admit, not too inaccurate. The only real problem I have with it is variety. My excuse for grinding is that I'm better.
Thing is, you're basically correct. It's a horrendous time sink that is simultaneously pitifully easy and incredibly aggravating and repetitive. But it does have a kind of... well I guess 'charm'. The game convinces people to like Pokemon by telling you they're *your* pokemon; it's almost kind of sinister how easily it can convince you that a pixel creature that looks exactly like every other is special only to you. I'm not saying Pokemon brainwashes people... But it actually kind of does.
Lyushcho My only problem with your argument is this: some of us actually find that sort of thing fun. I'm not one for FPS games, and COD in particular has this nasty habit of spawning me on top of things that are currently exploding. I like 1v1 fighters, but those can get pretty boring after a while. Pokemon in its current form is basically a unique fighter, in that it's turn-based, you have a team of 6, there are elemental and status effects... all of that. The story portion of the games may be easy, but there's a bit of depth to be mined from the battle system, which is kinda fun for someone like me, who enjoys RPGs and fighters both.
It’s fun to hear a person who has never played Pokemon give an opinion on it. It’s refreshing. I find pokemon enjoyable because training your team from nothing to overpowered boss monsters is incredibly addictive. After finding the joys of the Nuzlocke there’s no way I could ever turn my back on Pokemon.
+Gabriel Groenendaal well it kind is, or my level to grind is too low, because it doesn't really incentives you to try out new pokemons and see what works for you. you have to know what team you are doing since the beginning and if you don't then you have to waste a lot of time grinding them to decent levels, since all of them are caught low level with a crappy moveset. That's why every time a start a new pokemon game I just search on the forums for acceptable teams.
i like how yahtzee's videos don't necessarily create controversy but because everything he's saying is reasonable everyone's reaction is normally akin to something like "god dammit he's right"
"Theres really only one strategy in Pokemon" FUCKING LOL. And if you had to fight N 3 times at the Ferris While you obviously aren't very good at the game. Stay away from X&Y Yahtzee
Actually, why am I seeking conflict with you? It's a game, and we all play it differently. Just keep in mind he had to rush through this game inside of a week.
My god this made me piss myself laughing, I've played pokemon for years since I was a lil' kiddy and although I love it to pieces seeing it being torn up like this is hilarious, and the line "The main selling point of pokemon is to introduce another batch of the little bastards" Love the videos! :)
This was actually the last Pokemon game I ever played, and I remember thinking that if there were more strategy involved and the game were more difficult I could probably really get into it. As it is, you end up sticking with one team the entire game and only replacing members when you find a Pokemon that's better. I just couldn't get into it, because all the things you could do felt extremely unrewarding. This series is crying out for a variety of difficulty levels.
"I remember thinking that if there were more strategy involved and the game were more difficult I could probably really get into it." Ever heard of Smogon university?
You can change the difficulty in newer games, but as far as i can tell it only raises the enemies levels. I wish higher difficulty made the enemies smarter.
TheWraithOfMooCow I agree. It's one of the problems with Fire Emblem, too. They just put higher levels on people in more inconvenient locations, as if to hide their horrible AI. FE is a little more offensive, though, because IntSys have shown they could make good AI before.
I love the Pokemon gaming franchise, but I do agree with a lot of this. Its just something you have to get used to overtime and there are a lot of people that don't have the free time to get absorbed into the game. Nevertheless, I will keep playing the games.
Personally what I hate about Pokémon (and the sole reason i've never even finished one) is that it REQUIRES you to catch a lot of pokémon which is fine, but what isn't fine is that it doesn't compensate for the amount of xp you're getting meaning that sooner or later you're gonna stumble across a gym where all the trainers' pokémon are 20 levels higher than yours.
For me the fun of it was training my pokemon. I didn't concentrate on catching them all. I only caught the ones that looked cool or pretty. I generally only train 3 pokemon to defeat the elite four and use the others as sacrifices in battle, but that's just my style.
Am I the only one who actually likes the fucking gear Pokemon and the ice cream Pokemon? Compared to the same generic animals we see a lot (not too much, though, i don't really have a problem with those, either), the gears and the ice cream are kind of creative. But not Trubbish and Garbodor. Fuck them. We already had Grimer and Muk and I didn't even like them, we don't need more of them. Bear in mind, I love Pokemon, but people need to stop complaining about these gear Pokemon and ice cream Pokemon, because they're actually kind of creative.
+CZMF I respect your opinion pal. But I rather disagree with your opinion. (not 100% tho.) The terrible designs of the Ice-cream and gears Pokemon along with Trubbish and Garbodor are just totally terrible, un-creative, and Just damn super dumb! These terrible designs are like a slap to the face for older Pokemon gen fans. (same goes with the cotton candy fairy abomination and keys....just keys....) Now don't get me wrong. Gen 1 and the others also had a fair share of bad Pokemon designs. And some of them are just really bad. (like the Pokeball Pokemon Voltorb and its evolution.) But we EXPECTED for the creators to be carefully more creative next time and think of something very inventive or cool. But instead we still get some really bad designs that prevent the games from getting a perfect 10...Even Game Informer criticized some of the Pokemon designs and termed some of the them LAUGHINGLY BAD. Pokemon based off of food is meh...But the concept of it isn't too bad. If done right. it can be pretty dang good or creative/inventive. Sadly, the creativity was empty on those designs. Just my opinion here.
You have to give Nintendo's Pokemon division credit though. Every generation, they make a new engine for the game (aside from Gen 1 and 2) and make new monsters. Problem is though, those new monsters are looking extremely stupid. They got so pressed for ideas, they made a key-chain pokemon. I kid you not.
ryan baylis Sure it was lazy, but it wasn't done before, and we had lower standereds because we were playing on GameBoys. It was the first gen. There was plenty of room for error. There is no excuse why they should have a keychain pokemon in Gen 8. Or was it 7?
so making one shit design means they're pressed for ideas? so in the beginning when they made a seal pokemon called seel they weren't pressed for ideas?
desdar100 It's not QUITE a satire. His video persona is purposely harsh, and in fact, he does a weekly column where he apologizes for all the mean things he says in his videos. They are definitely similar, though, and it'd be an interesting discussion. Also, your avatar is adorable.
Lol I found this rather funny. I would like to point out though that pokemon is made for kids. Although a lot of the people playing it (myself included) are a lot older and started with the original pokemon games these new games are still meant to be playable by children and therefore easy. They haven't completely neglected their older players however as they put a lot of work on the competitive side of pokemon making the game much more complicated than it seems. If you want to see just how hard pokemon can be I suggest you look up competitive battling and go online against some people.
I feel like the zebra graphic going "screeeee" was significant. You used zebstrika didn't you, yahtzee.
I battled Elesa in White 2 today - it is a very intense cry, isn’t it?
he's got good taste if nothing else
Sometimes I wonder what starters Yahtzee chose
My guesses are Snivy for white and Cyndaquill for legends
Yahtzee has an amazing ability to completely rip the shit out of my favourite game series and have me completely agree with everything he says...
It's his magical power, but don't let his reviews stop you from playing what you think is cool.
If you're a real fan of something, you admit its faults, nod politely, then quietly return to playing. The alternative is like being the husband who rampantly denies that his wife is a kleptomaniac, even when nobody asked about her.
Javelin09
This, exactly. Jim Sterling also puts it very well that criticism is not condemnation. Unfortunately, many gamers don't get that.
I stepped in to say that your comment(s) was/were a lighthouse of rationality in a sea of "Obviously"s and "Clearly"s and "You just don't get it"s and that is cool.
***** I'm going with OR, seeing as how Ruby was my first for Gen 3.
Funny thing is.. No, N never did learn how to make friends.
N get back to twat school
read the pokemon manga, he comes to his own.
"Take an existing animal and change one letter in the name" holy shit he called litten.
then they moved onto inanimate objects like a keyring
Mankey, arbok (backwards too though ooo), seel, they been doing it since day one lol
Seel
Flamigo too.
@@lukedavies3654so you leave comments but don't read comments yourself. I said seel months before you. So if you don't read things why would you comment figuring other people would read things? So bizarre.
As a person who has loved pokemon since she was 5 years old, and is now 21 and still playing.... I agree. We're all mad.
+nerdatheart94 Lol so true......its my attachment or addiction (whatever you wanna call it ) to Pokemon franchise and their games since Pokemon Red, that sometimes even lets me understand those COD player everyone hates so much, because if I'm being completely honest Pokemon Diamond, Black & X have atleast been exactly the same games with the only difference being a new skin and about 120-150 more new pokemons to catch. I'm not complaining but aside from Pokemon Gold, Pokemon Black 2 and the awesome remakes of the original games, Pokemon has never really stirred up the formula in anyways......stories have had a little variation, but everything else about the same but I don't care, in fact until Pokemon HeartGold was my favourite of the franchise until recently when Pokemon Omega Ruby was released, the new engine on 3DS combined with the nostalgia of playing a upgraded remake of Pokemon Ruby was just a one of the best experiences I've had in Pokemon games............
+nerdatheart94 Stark raving even.
Quinn I played a little of HeartGold, tried White for twenty minutes and haven't played a Pokemon game since, because (get this) I found the card game more enjoyable. I had three of the starter decks and a couple cards I'd found buried in public (a roughed up Blastoise with tape on the corner comes to mind), and my brothers would play together, until one of us got bored or the smallest of us threw a fit. Eventually, the storage binder we had them in got lost either in a box or in a closet, I shrugged my shoulders and haven't touched the franchise since.
I have to agree
...and yet I dont care, I will keep playing.
and now i remember my extreme hatred of emolga.
filthy flying rat....
at least zubat evolved into something amazing
Rekt
oh how cute, my hatred lies in sigilyph and there powers of ruining my nuzlocke
And it's fuckin volt switch
I like Emolga. Specifically because it does stuff like that.
I love pokemon because... Well, nostalgia. But this video is very true. Pokemon is not at all a progressive or adult series. It's simple, strategic, OCD hoarder FUN and that's all it ever will be.
+Princess Astarotha Or... a game for kids... Just like how you played it as a kid? There are children born after you and it's for them now.
GREATGAIWAIN Oh, yeah. I know that it's a kid's game and most people do. I still enjoy them though.
Princess Astarotha That's fine but from a truly adult perspective, Yahtzee is right. I say this as a competitive battler myself. Nothing is wrong with enjoying it, I do too but the criticism is still valid.
GREATGAIWAIN Oh. yeah. I never said that it wasn't valid and I stand by Yahtzee's criticism of it.
+Princess Astarotha The whole breeding system is extremely complex, a kid would never get what is going on. Marketed for kids, but certainly not only made for kids. Building the right team and breeding them with the optimal stats isn't exactly "brainless". It's actually a very competitive game.
I heard a funny and quite true analogy to Pokemon's strategy.
"People call Pokemon a glorified rock-paper-scissors game, but there are 17 different types of rocks, papers, and scizzors, and most of the Pokemon can be both rock and scissors."
Though the competitive game can be even more that just that, the core game is basically that. Except some members of the elite four who actually use set up moves to wreck my face that one time I was not prepared.
Although I am an avid fan of Pokemon for reasons not entirely tied to gameplay, this video was still hilarious.
Exclaimer999 *cough* *Scizor...
Exclaimer999 Well said, dear sir. :)
Exclaimer999 I played blue, red and yellow several times and played half-way through silver, but after recently trying Black 2 (and I really played a few hours) I decided not to ever touch Pokémon again. It really hasn't changed at all. I 100% agree with everything Yahtzee (that's not his real name, right?) has said, except that the boss fights are hard. More than 600? Are they f*ckin' kidding me? It already took enough of my childhood to collect 150(151)... Also the whole cutesy "everything is fine, everything is lovely, everything smiles at you as it passes by or watches you from thirty feet across the street"-atmosphere drives me mad. I think that that might have gotten even worse from Pokémon Red, Blue and Yellow... "Hi, there! I like the way you walk and I love my Pokémon very much and I give them nutritional and tasty snacks all the time. Now let's make our pets cut, poison, burn and shock each other until they fall into a temporary coma..."
Thomaster шлепанцы *shrug* I don't really care.
Exclaimer999
If it weren't for Pokémon, you would be killing and dissecting small animals. No you would have moved on to bigger game by now.
Thank Pokémon for focusing the destructive urges of insane people on abusing digital animals that don't really suffer when tortured.
The people in the Pokemon universe who don't care about Pokemon all died because in the grim, unforgiving reality of Pokemon even taking a brief walk beyond the city walls results in being assaulted by every wild monster in sight.
Either that or they died by being torn apart by the mad people who attack you on the streets who say terrifyingly unrelated things like
'My boyfriend is great!' or
'Fashion is the only thing that matters!' before setting loose the beasts of war.
They're like Splicers, or perhaps this hellish reality has driven them beyond sane human discourse, pushed them into a state of feral survivalism.
+MrCompassionate01 sounds like an awesome anime....oh wait.
HOLY SHIT, MY SIDES!
lmao
+spartanMN300 the anime is waaaaaaayyyyy too cutesy
YES!!
As someone who owns all 719 Pokémon in regular and shiny variants I have to say he is... Totally, totally right.
Wow, that is incredibly impressive, you must have had next to no human interaction ever! I love pokemon, but that is just extreme!
Just going to point out that I am being way over the top sarcastic, I am not actually trying to insult you.
***** No, that's a pretty accurate assessment of the month of so it took to get them all. But then I am quite a shut in, so it was actually pretty pleasant.
04whim I am a shut in as well, dun like people too much, get nervous. Once I get to know people, I am fine, but otherwise I am really bad at this thing that humans call, "Social Interaction."
Lol, and I work at a Tim Horton's as well, so that is a massive stress causer and a half every time I go into work. If you don't know what Tim Horton's is, imagine McDonald's but coffee.
04whim
You got all those pokemon in a month?! Do you not sleep?!
Luke Nichols Kind of not, no. But that's besides the point. I misspoke, the whole thing took about four or five months, there was just one month where I had as little face to face human interaction as physically possible and that was where I got it finished. Save for the twelve legendaries you can't legally obtain in shiny which I will admit to cheating for, which I still feel validated in since that's the only way to get them.
I love Pokemon. I hate to admit that Yahtzee is 100% correct though
***** well of course I'm not going to stop. Pokemon has problems but they're not bad problems like cod or ass-creed. They add new stuff to game play. Story stays pretty good. There are tons of combinations of Pokemon teams to choose from to make gameplay unique through every play through. It's flaws are very apparent, but they dont kill the game they just make the game what it is
I do hate how the mega-evolution thing was done though.
***** yea you're right about ivs.
Jordan Windham-Benford Oh my god, I finally found someone else who didn't like the mega evolutions! Yes!
Also, I'm surprised your comments are actually readable, since saying that Yahtzee was 100% right about people who like Pokemon is effectively admitting that you're a madman.
StudiosUntitled I only hate the mega-evolutions because they could've been used to make a lot of Pokemon more useable in online matches that we never used before...
Nope Chuck Testa
All mega-evolutions did was reinforce the same old Pokemon and permanently cement them on every team. Really did the pseudo-legendary Pokemon really need a boost?
Mega-evolution should have been given to Pokemon we never use so that it adds more variety to the game. It's over 700 Pokemon between all the games. Im sure there has to be more to most Pokemon teams then lucario, gengar, and garchomp.
Sincerely, in a world of which you can teach a mouse to help you capture any mythical creature you encounter from the lowly caterpillar up to pseudo-deity Dragons and beyond, why the hell would anyone *not* be interested in them? Is there a remotely credible reason for any society to not take advantage of their most bountiful and powerful natural resources? Particularly when some are cute and adorable and some are so awesome that just associating with them makes you feel like a badass?
the trick to the loooooong pace of a Pokemon game? emulator with a fast forward button.
(oh and for the people who will inevitably shout "pirate!", i own all my roms in physical form.)
I do the exact same thing!
+FaithInD3cay isn't it wonderful?
The best thing about the game Bravely Default is the ability to control battle speed on the fly, so you can just fast-forward through every animation and just do the moves.
Daniel Jones drink up meharties, yo ho!
I find it baffling how the people at Gamefreak never thought of introducing a quick-battle mechanic in their games. The vastly superior Shin Megami Tensei games all have it. Would avoid the need to frameskip using an emulator.
He ALWAYS gets me with the "early 20's" joke
"I'm gonna make your pokémon into cuttlefish, lady!" XD
I am so going to use that line...
I don't think most players actually "catch em all". But I guess the briefing given by the professor at the start usually implies that the goal is that.
I love the part where he gets screwed over by Elesa.
It's funny that Yahtzee says Black and White don't matter when these are the only games where it matters slightly in how the game changes, also it's the one game that actually has a story.
Crystal. Yellow had a fairly coherent story, as did platinum.
Are you kidding me? As someone who played the originals, no, there was no actual story. You were a kid who went on a journey fought some mafia gang that wanted money, and battled the champion. End game.
Black and White: You're a kid who runs into a gang who are actually political activists with N who has been surrounded by pokemon all his life that he can understand them. Having been secluded to abused Pokemon, he believes that they are being unfairly used by humans and wishes to liberate them and mediate between humans and pokemon so as to create a peaceful world for everyone, but then comes across the main trainer whose pokemon oddly adore them, something he's never experienced, which then causes ideals to be questioned. On White, which I believe is superior to black in that it shows more character development on the side of N in him looking for the truth after being so narrowly confined by his father who is only manipulating him, his ideals weakening because of the main character's pokemon's loyalty to them. Even saying the line, "If all trainers were like you, I wouldn't be here." Then this could be used as an allegory for politics and is it ethically right to pretend the minority doesn't exist, just because most people are happy with a decision and those that are abused by the system virtually disappear in the stream of things. And gives proper ideas to the headship of power, as there is always a figurhead who is manipulated by a stronger force, and while this spokesperson may be trying to do good totally and completely, their party can be going behind their back and is really the one causing the problems. Or even, should people be criticized and demonized for their ideals just because they do not add up to the general ideas of society?
*****
I'll admit yellow didn't have much story, but there is still story, and with crystal there is the plot regarding suicune and the ressurection of team rocket, which causes massive repurcussions. Then there is platinum, with coherent story, even going so far as to introduce what are effectively deities. The story doesn't need to have a political aspect, or a kicked puppy, in N's example, to be a story. The story in the older games isn't exactly front and center in your face, black and white are the first to do that method, and also purposely drop the 'it's like dog-fighting' comparison. Story can be subtle.
jtnachos16 But then you realize that it's stupid to make pokemon dieties or gods because you can still catch them in the game, so I guess that makes you god at the end of the day, or the fact that Team Rocket never was an actual threat. All they wanted was money. They're a mafia with a person who already has money at the top. All these other plots boil down to Why? What's the purpose? Whereas you can actually say N has a legitimate point in his views, even by the people who disagree with him. The old lady in the secodn city you go to after you hear Team Plasma's speech says, "Pokemon will do everything in their power for their trainer and in return, they get love." Well gee, that's totally fair! Obvious imbalance of give and take, but then you can compare it to a mother-child relationship where all the parent really can get in return is love from their children, but then it's the trainer who has total control, not the pokemon, so what stops the pokemon from being forced into such actions? The story of Black and White doesn't delve that deep on its own, you have to think. There are so many lines of thought in either direction that are just sorta hinted at and requires you to actually have a brain. Granted the developers apparently thought that was too much for players, so they added in Ghetsis' diabolical plan of taking over the world, completely lamp-shading the actual thought-provoking and morally ambiguous aspect of the story.
*****
I never said that black and white didnt have an interesting plot, Merely that there were other pokemon games with story, as far as team rocket not being a threat, They, in red blue and yellow, had almost completely taken over kanto, and even damaged as they were in gold silver and crystal, they still managed to cause massive trouble in johto, and brought kanto to its knees by disabling the power plant. Nintendo succeded with their 'buzz-word' story in black and white. For that matter, your question of 'why'? Team rocket: take over the world/make the ultimate pokemon. Teams Magma and Aqua, they wanted to change the environment to allow for more people/pokemon (I cant speak to aqua's logic in this, but magma at least had a legit reasoning, so long as they didnt take it to far). With Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, Basically Cyrus was pissed off at the injustices of the world (more specifically their effect on him) and decided to rebuild the world in an attempt to make it a better place. The guy's nuts, but he has a cause. Havent played X and Y yet, because I'm not shelling out a ton of money for a system that there are currently only 3-5 games I'd play on it.
The frequent jabs at N are freaking amazing.
I mean I love Pokémon and always will. But Yahtzee is 100% right on all counts in this video.
Especially about that Green haired TWAT.
Tough boss fights in B/W? Now there's a laugh.
Idk man, that electric-type one was a bitch. Namely thanks to a lack of any good rock-types.
Ghetsis is the fucking worse
dude when u fight n then immediately have to fight ghetsis is the only one but fuck it was hard
ghetsis was dumb cause of his wide array of moves. the pokemon i happend to have (party of six only) were always super weak to one of the moves his pokemon had. his stupid fuckin hydreigon...
Okay sure, to be fair, Ghetsis is tough, final N is fairly tough, and I recal one or two of the elite four being decently hard. But that's it! Everyone else is a complete pushover. This is a game with THREE fucking rivals and it doesn't have a remotely difficult boss until the very end. Pokemon has never been about ball-crushing difficulty, but this is still absurd.
I was done with Pokemon after the disappointment of BW. Could some vet tell me if the latter games keep to this pattern?
"I guess I was much easier to impress back in my 20's." HAHAHAHA. xD
yeah pokemon does need some work but I find it more entertaining than running around shooting people for 6 hours then going online to shoot more people.
lol.
Blackestfang or prototype and make them spew tentacles out of their ass making the hang from building while getting ripped from 8 different spots while running at 120 mph.
yeah its obviously better since with those 6 hours in pokemon you run around killing pokemon and trainers and if you get bored of that as well you go online to kill some players.
***** pokemon has more in it then you think. making a team to battle people online takes 6 hours because you must carefully plan out items, moves, ability, nature, and much more. Plus completing the pokedex if much more rewarding then playing those other games with 718 pokemon it requires hard work instead of "pew pew I have a better gun" which is all shooting games are. Online battling in pokemon is like violent chess you must predict what the other person is doing and one screw up could cost you the match. you can't dodge, you can't recover its all hope you get lucky and your hard work pays off. Have you actually played the games? My guess is no because then you would get a basic idea of what I mean. not everyone is gonna love shooting people in the face, I rather send out my rotom wash form and make people cry with its speed and trollish move-set.
ShowbizSpy any normal person would have assumed i was joking,blackestfang is a good example, you on the other hand need to get that stick out of your ass and relax.
I love the way he calls N a "twat". The way he emphasizes it is just perfect.
Erm... what rhymes with "Pounding nails into my fucking eyes"?
Bob Bluered Rounding pails into my trucking guys
Hm. I suppose that does.
Bob Bluered he said pound, which rhymes with ground, and then he said
-ing nails into my fucking eyes
Ground fails on those two fucking guys?
+xXepicwolfXx1 GENIUS
The developers of Pokemon are absolute masters of making it SEEM like it hasn't changed in 20 years to the casual observer/nostalgic hindbrain while gradually refining the combat system and carefully incrementing the potential for strategy. Although of course it still isn't ever necessary to USE said strategy. Modern pokemon could really do with a punishing hard mode that gives you some special reward for completing it, like some breeding esoterica which lets you choose the child pokemon's ability which the casual player wouldn't know what to do with anyway.
+HammerspaceCreature B/W 2 did a hard mode. Then X/Y didn't.
+CrappyCondor Because Game Freak wants to cater to the younger smartphone generation that get distracted the instant they have to try at something. That's not me being pessimistic either that's more or less the reason they gave us.
Yes, Activision is very good at that too with Call of Duty, Ubisoft with Assassin's Creed and EA with NHL and Fifa....
TH-cam GAME: Take a shot every time you see a comment that starts with something like "Yahtzee has a point, but ". For extra fun, take another shot for each comment that talks about things Yahtzee already addressed, like the type of person that breeds for shinies/IVs and is obsessed with perfection. Just be sure to book an ambulance in advance if you plan on going past the first page of comments.
+ChibiTails **adjusts glasses** i'm sorry but you don't understand that pokemon is actually very competedojtntdfgkndfgknfgh I CAN'T DO IT IT'S SO DAMN BORING, IF YOU PLAYED ONE GAME YOU PLAYED THEM ALL.
i spent 4 hours reading comments, and am still sober, you're game is shit....
horny turtle
Don't you lie to me. You'd have to already be drunk in the first place to read comments for 4 hours.
ChibiTails touche....
Excuse me sir, but I make use of Turabian format in my ridiculous defenses of Pokémon red version 3002 (also known as Pokémon white). APA... what poppycock!
You don't have to agree with Yahtzee but he always makes good points.
When? All i see is nitpicking
Anyone can call having a very specific taste in games nitpicking, but nothing he is saying is untrue, pokemon is repeatative, the plot is always EXACTLY the same, the bad guys are always essentially the same coordinated outfit wearing team "insert random "cool" word here" with some kind of plot to serve some random purpose. The pokemon ARE becoming less creative as well, they are just throwing out any old idea these days because because pokemon fuck you xD.The Combat is very much the same as he describes it as well, turn based isn't for everyone and it really is about use this element against that element, I mean sure there is some variance there but it is still pretty basic at it's core. these things aren't nit picking, they are facts, wiether you see them as nitpicks or not, He isn't talking from a point of view of a veteran pokemon game fan, just someone who has played one of the originals and is now playing a new one. I understand that pokemon has add a lot of vanity stuff to the game, and new "advanced" ways of leveling pokemon and such now, but like I said this is a review from someone who hasn't played and beaten every pokemon game under the sun, he is looking at it from a perspective of a new player who doesn't know really know everything under the sun about pokemon and is not fanboyed out by the formula the follow. I like pokemon, or at least I used to ( I gave up at diamond and pearl) but I can completely understand where Yahtzee comes from in most all of his reviews, at the very least the perspective. damn this is one long ass comment.
Erwin Schrodinger ? Black and White really had the only good plot, IMO, considering that they (they meaning N) had an actual REASON for doing what they did. Yes, their methods made no sense, but it's definitely not the same plot as "Stop the bad guys because what they're doing is so obviously wrong", but more "Stop the bad guys because you want to prove their ideals and truth wrong."
Monique Kalu Well Regardless of Motive or reasoning or Motive the formula is the same, and the events that occur are the same as a result which is what Yahtzee is getting at, and he has a point.
Erwin Schrodinger No he doesn't he's ripping on it for the sake of ripping on it. The formula is what makes a Pokemon game a Pokemon game and i know i'm not the only fan of the franchise that would be pissed if Nintendo changed it. They have the mystery dungeon and conquest franchises for that shit and every Pokemon main series game does things different and adds to the lore. Attacking Pokemon and its fanbase for no other reason than "Because he can" isn't having a point it's being a tool.
Pokemon is one of those games that looks the same on the surface. But once you get past the main story. You find out there is a lot more to it. People who've never played pokemon seem to think it only introduces one mechanic per game, but when we started we had 15 types and psychics had no counters.
Generation 2 introduced a hundred new pokemon, two new types, rebalanced the type-chart, and added hundreds of new moves, as well as introducing the concept of breeding and gender as well as weather. Not to mention the concept of berries and held items. It also introduced Shiny-pokemon and the concept of having more than four pokeball types
Generation three introduced more pokemon, Double battles, abilities that drastically changed the flow of battle, expanded on weather, added several main-stay moves like Taunt, and vastly expanded on the battle tower concept. it introduced the concept of natures to allow further customization of pokemon, and added several new concepts of items, making it more than just boosting one type of move or something. It also introduced pokemon contests. It expanded berries drastically so berries could do so much. It also offered new pokeball types yet again.
Generation four defined moves as physical or special. Thunderpunch used to be special because it was electric, now it was physical because it's a punch. This made Dark types suddenly really good. It also introduced the concept of giving most single-ability pokemon another secondary ability to choose from. Several formerly overshadowed types now got powerful moves, and the new pokemon were actually very usable. The early normal/flying type was a top condendor for one of the best in the series. It expanded on several previous concepts, and offered the most challenging champion in the entire series, who still hasn't even been equaled.
Generation five is my least favorite, but it still added triple battles, rotation battles, hidden abilities, and yet still more items, pokemon, abilities, and the like. It introduced the least and is the least fun, but they can't all be winners.
Generation Six introduced mega evolutions, horde battles, shook up the fire/fighting thing we'd be lulled into with a fire/psychic. The introduction of the Fairy-type and re-balancing of the type-chart yet again brought the game closer to some sense of balance. It also transitioned the game from pixily graphics to fully 3d ones that made it so much more pleasing to the eye.
At a glance Pokemon games are very similar, and while it is true that their stories seem the same, the games aren't if you are someone who plays more than the main story. But if you don't like them, I don't really care. Because I do, and saying that they are all the same is objectively untrue.
Yahtzee: "Pokemon is made to appeal to mad people"
"Insanity can be defined as doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result"
-Albert Einstein
(Shinies, anyone?)
Edit: Come to think of it. Pokemon can also be attributed to slavery, animal cruelty, and eugenics.
PlayerZanto Yes he did...
mysticghostt
www.news.hypercrit.net/2012/11/13/einstein-on-misattribution-i-probably-didnt-say-that/
No, he didn't.
Ryen Elvira kek
Ryen Elvira That doesn't prove he never said it. In fact, it's impossible to prove he never said it, or indeed any negative. It's possible he said it, it's possible he didn't say it. However, nobody here said he created the line.
Euclid IsMyBro It certainly can be "used as a quote used by him." For instance, see above. It *is.*
Also, try to pack it in with the hissy fits, you'll give yourself a stroke.
"I went for Pokemon White, because i felt some kind of racial connection to it." :D :D
I know Yahtzee doesn't like the JRPG-style or turn based combat in general so it's not surprising he didn't like this. Regardless I feel like saying that B/W wasn't an evolution of the series is a bit misleading. Not only was it by far the most story heavy entry, actually giving you reasons to move from town-to-town but after about the mid-point it actually required a fair amount of tactical logic. Every Pokemon game prior to it could be beaten with a single formula; capture the earliest flying type you can find and level only it so that it can one-hit KO every enemy in the game, even the secret bosses. B/W was nothing like that, by the Elite Four they had included so many challenging double types you either had to make clever use of your whole team, or spend fifteen hours leveling that dragon type you finally got from the area just prior to it. And that's not even considering that there's half a continent left to explore after the supposed "end" of the game.
Unfortunately it seems like X/Y was content to go back to the bog standard, perhaps too many people complained they were actually having to use brain cells in B/W? Regardless like I said I wouldn't expect Yahtzee to like this game, it's everything he hates, but to suggest it hasn't changed at all since R/B is a bit disingenuous.
Goldenkitten1 I kinda think X/Y wanted to push the mechanics envelope, since they didn't really know how to push the story envelope any further than B/W.
Yes I'm playing B/W now and I'm surprised by how many pokemon I've lost in battles. Definitely the toughest entry thus far
If you don't enjoy the bog standard turn-based combat (had my fill when I was 5 years old playing stuff like max mesyria, murloc rpg and final fantasy sonic x on flash sites) then no small tweaks will make it click for you, so if you know that you share an opinion with yahtzee then his statement is perfectly true.
If you're on the edge then you should not listen to an admitted extremist on one side. Personally I like the competitive battles, since the system works heartbreakingly well for them, but everything up there is so tedious for me that I just never finished a pokemon game since gen 2 (played both on emulators on my slide phone in middle school). I do play the occasional round of pokemon showdown though. It's usually pretty fun.
I can forgive XY because it was meant to get 3D modeling out of the way, but everything after is inexcusable. ORAS hurt especially because Emerald is an important part of my childhood.
@@TheAbsol7448 were ORAS bad? Didn't actually hear much at all about them.
2:33 Aren't there slapping competitions nowadays where they do exactly that lol
Yatzee should do X and Y since it was the first 3DS pokemon game, and I just wanna hear him make fun of Team Flare
"We must destroy the world because it's not fashionable enough"
He should do XY because I wanna hear him mention how braindead easy it is. I mean if Yahtzee actually 'died' a handful of times like he makes it out in this video, I wonder if taking any sort of challenge the games had before XY would be a good or a bad thing in his eyes.
And yeah, I want to hear him shit on Team Flare too.
X and Y becomes a completely different beast when you turn of the EXP share and nuzlocke it.
Pokemon has always been easy tbh. X&Y EXP Share doesn't decrease the difficulty, it just saves time. Yeah, you can end too high level, but it won't change much.
DarkiLordito
Pokemon has always been easy relative to many other games. However, in all the other Pokemon games I've played, I've usually blacked out once or twice, or at least came somewhat close a few times, usually from something unexpected like critical hits or some other RNG related battle mechanic. But in XY, I don't even think I came close to losing a SINGLE battle. The problem with XY doesn't necessarily stem directly from the Exp share though, but moreso how the trainers aren't designed with it in mind. If the Exp Share returns in Sun and Moon, all that needs to be done is make the trainers higher level... Okay, and maybe work a bit on the AI here and there.
Ya know, with all the attempted convincing from my friends and several forum arguments, I still don't see nor do I understand how Pokemon is competitive. It's like playing with a game I've known to call as "War" with a regular deck of cards, where you hold your stacked deck and flipping the top card and placing it on the table. Higher card wins. It's all luck based and that's what Pokemon reminds me of: a luck based fight where the one who misses the least and crits the most wins.
Yeah, I know there's more to it than that, but it's all nuance. I don't consider a player opting to NOT bring out his grass type against a fire a smart move. That's just common sense. If common sense was considered competitive, the world would be a better place.
the competetive part is raising your pokemon to the maximum possible potentiel. you have EV's to consider what pokemon to bring in the moveset and the nature and then how you can use that as a strategy.
So, grind training.... What're you talking about That's not competitive!
If it is competitive, then toilet cleaning must be a throat-cut competition.
Dice12K
The competitive part of pokemon is not really ev training and grinding, but the way you forge your team to cover each others weak points. yes its common sense to not use a grass type against a fire type but that same grass type might have be faster and might have moves that are strong against fire and so on. Yeah i couldn"t see it at first then i tried it and i got my ass kicked by a little bird (taillow)
So, we fall down to Hearthstone's "competitive" uh... thing. The one who builds a better deck, or in this case: team, wins. Note: The one with more and better Legendary Cards properly integrated in their deck wins. How to get the Legendary Cards (other than buying them)? GRINDING; keep playing and winning so you can get more card packs. Yeah, Arena mode works to balance this issue out, but this leads me to the question: What's the point then?
Enough digressing, back to Pokemon! How to find out which Pokemon have that special... thing about them? WIKIPEDIA! Or actually, in this case, Bulbapedia! THEN GRIND!
Grind until you're suffering from carpel tunnel because all those Pokemon aren't going to get themselves to level 100. Even sitting around with a cheat for infinite dru- err, "Rare Candies" to raise them all is going to be time consuming.
It still doesn't give off the competitive feeling you get from games that are actually really competitive.
Here's the thing: You're not going to find any more *GOOD* and *original* teams *anymore*. Yeah, there're almost 700 of the Pokemon and 700! (that's 700 factorial) is too large to try and calculate, but the number is immediately divided by 500! (again, that's 500 factorial) due to the obviously bad team builds you can have. I've seen several hundred builds with the same bunch of friends I mentioned in my original comment in this chain. They had Pokemon in their team ranging back from Gen 1 sometimes and not just the memorable ones like Charizard and Pikachu. They aren't even hardcore competitors. They just play to pass the time while waiting for their next class. There are around 10 players, so... over 1 year.
Imagine every hardcore Pokemon player in Japan who works exponentially harder than they do. I think all the possible decent teams have already been thought of, tested and an anti-that-build was made to counter it. There won't be a "Best Pokemon Team" since it's possible there'll be a "Anti-Best Pokemon Team."
So yeah.... Not feeling the competition. Just another reason why Pokemon players might all just be accountants. xP
pokemon is more casual compared to other games due to the fact that its still a kids game, competitive is just a term , basically stating your serious about devoting time to battle real life players via wi fi. In short its a competitive kids game played by age groups of at least 5 to 30, of course it won't be as competitive as games such as street fighter, soul calibur and tekken, However its still fun there is a reason the franchise hasn't died
While the core mechanics for the game has stayed the same, they have added a shit ton to the series, improving it with each iteration. I've only played Pokemon Yellow and White and there is a huge improvement between the two.
I will just assume you disappeared from the face of the earth for 12 years.
Please, enlighten me. What has it that Nintendo has added to the series other than stupid cosmetic changes (IE animations that pokemon make once summoned), and gambling? It's the same game. If you striped all the cosmetics off the games, made them so they look the same as Pokemon Blue, and made someone play them, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
ZombieProgrammer1921 First of all, The stats they get when leveling up ARENT random and can be controlled (and until X/Y, it was crontolled through a very second-party way), this includes things like, natures, EV's and IV's. and the way you train the pokemon varies depending of the kind of batlle and strategy you will use
OH YEAH, there is 4 types of battle, that MAY sound simple, but the strategic scene changes radically depending on them, I will not explaind them but i will name them for you so you can google them. Classic single battles, double battles, triple battles and rotation battles.
The way and quantity of ways you can interact with other players around the globe has greatly improoved, specially on B/W and X/Y.
Also on items area, there are way too much ways to affect all types of battle, not to forget how they can improove and alter training and breeding.
Oh my! Instead of having a drawn out fight with this random trainer; of having to only battle with 1 v 1, I can speed it up only a portion of the time with 2 v 2 or some crap.
No. There are no new ways that items can affect battles that you couldn't do in since Gold/Silver; potions are still potions, and everyone really only uses stupid little items that don't really do anything.
Granted, I will give you that the way you can interact with other people has improved, but that is purely hardware dependent.
And lastly, it goes back to that every Pokemon has had the same goals, challenges, events, obstacles, and mechanics as the previous one released. It was okay back after they pumped out Gold/Silver, but after that they knew they had no where to go except for introducing more Pokemon. And they have even ran out of ideas in that department (An ice cream Pokemon with 2 evolutions, a chandelier Pokemon, and whatever Licky-Licky is supposed to be).
Im sad to tell you that is increibly clear you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
If you have any actual and real interest on the topic of how pokemon has indeed made its gameplay way deeper than many believe, instead of just bashing something you dont really know much about (outside of generic hate comments from the internet), I would advise you to google and search for any explanation related to "pokemon metagame".
Granted the game has the same "single player offline premise", but since ruby, the multiplayer scene is way bigger than you would ever believe without the corret source of information.
Have a nice day.
I suggest you check out the webcomic "Mokepon" where the main character is that indifferent person who points out how insane the system is at every turn.
One time I lost all the bookmarks for webcomics I was following. I got most of them back, but felt something was missing. Then I realized what it was: the bastardization of a beloved franchise that is Mokepon. Can't wait until Chapter 17 Page 33.
What I love most about this are the comments. Oh wow someone who doesn't like Pokemon? I don' t know why this is such a unfathomable concept for some. I love Pokemon to death, but it's not the only game I play. Zero Punctuation here ((sorry I'm new to your videos)) is just part of an actual gaming community. It might be a bit presumptuous of me to say, but from where I am standing, I see a good chunk of People that play the Pokemon video games hardly play any other type of game. You can't expect someone who isn't all that into Pokemon , and plays actual video games as they come out hoping to find something good, to fall for it like some love stricken nostalgia critic who wears big fat rose colored nerd glasses. It's not really the end of the world if he doesn't like a Pokemon game. I hardly see people get that up in arms when someone says, "I don't like Mortal Combat" or something. Maybe I'm thinking too much again, but even though I love to play Pokemon and despite being 22 years old and the concept of the games haven't growing old with me in the last 12 years, I still find fun with it. And after all isn't that what a game is supposed to do? If you had fun with it who fucking cares what someone else thinks. If you had fun with it, it served it's purpose. If you didn't then it failed to hold that persons interest, but it doesn't cement its status as a good or bad game. Sorry Zero Punctuation for the long rant you might not see, but I applaud your reviews. You tell it like it is and you give no fucks. I bet you hate/don't like a lot of games I do, but as gamers, shouldn't we just shut up and get along based on the fact that we like video games? Keep up the good work. -End rant.
I applaud your rant.
Well to be fair, most fans of anything can be a bit overbearing and...too into it. XD
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I've played Pokemon quite a bit, and I think he hit the nail on the head with the madness.
Senthain Not for me. There are normal people who play pokemon. Even people you would never think would play pokemon if you et them outside of youtube like Shofu, Shizzy VI, Maxezzy. I've met Max and that was before I found out he plays pokemon he's an awesome guy but never took him for pokemon until I told him I played it and he told me about his channel. I'd like to see Zero go to them and call them crazy in a joking manner sure he may be right but in a rude manner he'd be crazy too if he did that.
I used to religiously play Pokemon games, but with the release of X and Y I found that they just weren't as appealing. Black and White were okay, as were they sequels, but X and Y really felt lazy. The new Pokemon were right away being compared to the old ones and they mixed them at the beginning so that it didn't really feel like a brand new region. It felt like the creators got lazy and decided to mix in old Pokemon in order to save time, and as such it took me a really long time to complete the game because I just wasn't captivated by it the same way I was Platinum or Emerald.
Still going to buy the new Ruby, though. Hoenn calls to me once more.
I wonder if Yahtzee realizes that the story of Black and White, as well as its sequels, is the strongest in all of the Pokemon games with the exception of the Explorers spin-offs
He went this hard on the best generation. That's right.
I have to admit I wasn't expecting to find this a likeable review (myself being a Pokémon nostalgia obsessed geek) but I actually like the points he brings up here. I actually got a pretty good laugh out of N being referred to as a twat because he is by far the most self obsessed loser in the entire franchise and only displays any form of redeemable quality at the end, a bad point for any character.
N was amazing (by pokemon standards anyway) Rather than a standard villain like in every other game in the series (or in most other RPG's for that matter) ne challenged the very notion of what the game had been built on (is it right to trap animals in tiny balls/a computer for the rest of their entire lives and use them as slaves). It was a good and funny review though.
Heh, well I always found it rather pretentious, anyone with half a brain cell without a personal vendetta against Pokemon can see training them isn't animal cruelty!
Alex Magnei I don't know take away the kiddy surrealism and it is basically trapping animal in boxes and only letting them out to fight to the death with other animals.
Sorry but since when does a Pokémon die through battling? (Don't say Blue's Raticate, it clearly says in the game "Blue's Raticate fainted" and people just made that bullshit up as some kind of ghost story) and it is clear that through battling Pokémon grow to LIKE their trainer more.
Alex Magnei Oh they're like children and dogs. The more you beat 'em, the more they like you.
I like how you complained about the lack of strategy, then immediately complained about how the strategy failed.
I remember when Black and White came out. I remember because it flooded the Internet like crazy. As I grew up, I always seemed to see Pokemon out of the corner of my eye. It wasn't until I got to college that I met people that still liked Pokemon. X and Y were announced, and everyone went CRAZY.
I actually checked it out and was surprised that it looked vastly different from the other games from the series. And I'd seen snippets of the games. Always 2D pixels graphics. But OH man, did the new games change that.
I ended up getting a 3DS myself, JUST for the sole purpose of playing this game. And you know what it was that won me over? The frickin' Nintendogs rip-off section of the game. There's literally a section where you can pet, feed, and play non-life threatening games with the little creatures, and I literally spent SO MUCH TIME just doing that. When I got to the later parts of the game and caught the legendary, I was able to pet them and feed them as well, and that was INSANE because the thing is so huge it takes up BOTH screens.
I didn't really care about catching them all. I just caught the ones I liked and went from there. I ended up with a lot of psychic types and ghost types, because the ones i liked turned out to be in those categories. There was SO MUCH to do in that game, I was surprised when I finished the story half of the game, and that I could do more after the story ended!
In the end, X and Y converted me to Pokemon. I can't say I'll really play any of the older games (there's only so many I can play), but I certainly enjoyed this.
From what I understand, Black and White are very different, and not a whole lot of people liked it. There was something about an ice-cream cone POkemon? Idk...there's a cotton candy pokemon in X and Y. You call that one. It's definitely not a game for everybody, and given Yahtzee's tastes in gaming, I can see why he doesn't like it. TBC can be really tedious. Grinding around for monsters is time-consuming. The story's themselves aren't incredibly profound. The games were created by a man who loved to catch bugs as a kid, and it certainly shows. So to make a game where you catch and train strange creatures is not surprising. The real surprise is that the franchise blew up the way it did. It's pretty amazing.
the ice cream pokemon is really hated along with the trash bag pokemon, really the people who say this are just probably genwunners. and you should try older games too, especially pokemon Heartgold or Soulsilver on the ds or gold and silver on the Gameboy color. But Vanilluxe and Trubbish just make genwunners (assholes so full of nostalgia they only like gen 1, red, blue, and yellow, and just give the bullshitiest reasons why the others suck) to say they are running out of ideas. And the pokemon amie thing was fun XD I wish there was like an app for it, that would be really cool.
8 years late to your comment but it's a massive missed opportunity that Pokémon didn't capitalise on your idea sooner.
@@cyruscrompton8221Yeah, gen 1 fanboys seem to forget things like Mankey, Rattata, and Butterfree. So many ripped off from real creatures back then too.
This series needs to plagarize Bravely Default's random encounter slider. Enough is enough.
"There's only really one strategy in Pokemon and that's to use whatever the other guy is weak to."
........ I'm not saying it, I'm just thinking it very loudly.
How terribly, painfully, cruelly, comically true.
Pretty sure the reason it's stayed the same is because as the saying goes "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Sure there are slight gimmicks that are added on and new pokemon, moves and the sort (not to mention types thanks to gen 6).
But the thing is, these are added and do not break what isn't broken, they simply improve, in my opinion...
And yet gen 5 if my least favourite, which seems hypocritical, yes, it partially is, what wit me saying all add-ons improve, but from all of them I have played, gen 5 just wasn't as enjoyable for me as the others.
Granted my favourite generation is the 3rd, so in itself that had mixed reception from what I've heard, nostalgia is a bitch, but that's the only one that has any factor of nostalgia when it comes to judging them in which I like.
Let me put it out there, I do enjoy all of the pokemon games, but I find this generation (back and white) was the LEAST enjoyable, it still was, I played through it until the end, but others weremore satisfying.
"Imma make your pokemon into cuttlefish, lady".
Gets me every time.
While I do appreciate the beatdown you gave Pokémon White here, I do think you went a little too hard on it and missed some of the good stuff. Yes, that "use whatever the enemy is weak to" strategy works, but there's much more in-depth strategies that are more rewarding. I've really had to spend minutes thinking ahead to figure out what exactly I could do without getting wiped out the next turn, resulting in me pulling some slickly-planned fast ones. It really does feel good.
The soundtrack is brilliantly done and the story is a bit heavier than your average Pokémon game, having some actual hefty substance and a sad moment at the end. And the largest thing about Pokémon is online battles. THE largest thing about them. People use Pokémon trained in ludicrously specific ways and use the most perfectly-crafted synergizing setup. They spend hundreds of hours getting their team together, and then they beat the shit out of all challengers. But really, maintaining a Pokémon team is interesting and fun.
I'd say X and Y are an improvement over B&W though.
Uhm. Strategies that are more rewarding? How is doing strategy more "rewarding" than doing the simple way? That's like me having to kill someone, he stands in front of me, and instead of simply shooting him in the face i decide to climb up a house, jump down, stab him in the throat, put a grenade in his mouth and then throw him into a river. The outcome is about the same, but it's just way easier to just shoot him.
What? You need strategy for Online battles?
1: i didn't know the Campaign was online.
2: What if someone just doesn't have internet?
soschar2050 Did you really just ask how shooting a guy in the face is more rewarding than climbing up a house, jumping down, stabbing him in the throat, putting a grenade in his mouth and throwing him into a river
Reakishin what i'm trying to say is using strategy in the Pokemon campaigns is basically saying "why make it easy if you can make it needlessly complicated?"
soschar2050 Yeah I know and I sort of agree but still
Are you sure you want to ask that
Reakishin No, there is absolutely no strategy in beating the game, the real strategy is in competitive play.
Pokemon is the #1 selling franchise in gaming history.
It's also what's wrong with the video game industry.
Gamers will eat up the same old rehashed shit no matter how hard they pretend to want innovation.
You totally didn't just watch the Game Theory video on that did you? ~.• (Psssst... I know you did.)
I swear I never seen whatever episode you're talking about. I've always been cynical of Pokemon. And it's not because it pumps copy-and-paste sequels out its ass. It's because it pumps *genuinely bad* copy-and-paste sequels out its ass.
The entire game is built on a bad foundation of gameplay devices, and yet its these concepts that make it so perfectly designed to be able to be done over and over again. As bullshit as the games are, the concept really is just ingenious.
*****
They're both copy and paste shit. But at least Call of Duty was created as a quality example of its genre. Pokemon has always been a terrible RPG.
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They add more standardized crap, throw in about one new game mechanic, and tack on a gimmick or two. It's the bare minimum requirements to make a sequel.
*****
_You're_ copy and paste.
What do you think about that one?
You were fine ringing a bell in your beloved Darksouls! :P
Okay- fuck the electric gym in that game.
you know that mostground txpes can learn rock typemoves which are 2x effeitve on flying types, right?
Hamji TnL Yes but some people don't use ground types like that. I was one of those people an got sooo much Volt switch spam XD.
i just used a roggenrola to rockblast the shit outof emolga ^^
Literally.
JUST OVER-LEVEL YOUR STARTER.
I'm getting sick of the "There's too many pokemon, how am I supposed to catch them all?" I've never met anyone... ANYONE who actually caught all of the original 151, and with this many pokemon, it's easier to make a unique team of effective dudes, meaning few people you encounter have the same exact 6 fucking pokemon. I mean, in gen 6 you STILL encounter the same Blazakins and Scizors etc, but most people have pretty unique teams as a result of more and more pokemon.
It’s been ten years since this review came out, and I can say confidently, that Pokémon is still using the same gameplay model and people still enjoy it
I find amazing how pokemon can go up with so little innovation to the point it seems that the fans will suck the cock of any change. Seriously, it is hilarious how you find many fanarts that are better than the actual pokemon (even more so with this mega thing from digimon word DS gameplay) and still worship it like the best thing ever.
i remember they calling triple battle something so innovative like it was never before. And how BW was having photos from japan players and then nintendo giving sue warns to sites that POSTED IT. Then nintendo makes global releases 2 years later and everything is fine. Astonishing.
it's nintendo what do you expect. Plus most people play pokemon for the competitive play or nuzlockes both of which are rather enjoyable.
I come from the future
People are buying pokemon sword and shield even though it's not good
I come from the even worse future
Once again Yahtzee nailed it. Pokemon is another game on Nintendo's ever continuing recycle list, along with Mario, Zelda, and Metroid. They know that they can release the same shit every few years and it is guaranteed to sell millions of copies.
I feel the same way about Disney sometimes.
BJMcB92 good sir, does the word 'parody' mean anything to you?
Goombalove3000 Yes, he was exaggerating for comedic effect in this video, however looking back on this over three years later it is clear he was right.
BJMcB92 he was just joking though. He didn't outright insult the franchise.
Only difference is that Pokemon is still enjoyable
''I guess I was easier to impress in my early 20's''
fucking loled
I flipping love pokemon.
Better than the 11 year olds you get on call for money : recycled warfare.
*call for money : recycled warfare*
10/10
Thanks :D
you sir have earned my respect
You sir are a kind man/woman :D
Yes but u cant deny everyone single one is the exact same, except x/y.
...is he trying to say something about Kingdomehearts?XD
I'm gonna sit here in my save zone watching zero punctuation videos forever.
This comment section: Pokemon might be a repetitive cash-grab, but at least I don't play (insert series that's just as bad a repetitive cash-grab).
Your experience with the Electric-type gym leader actually amuses me a bit, because it contradicts what you thought about Pokemon. It is unbudging, but it's still been evolving. New tactics are involved, even through the storyline and not just pvp. New types for new Pokemon require new strategy, such as pulling out that one Pokemon with a Rock move that Emolga will go down in two hits from.
Plus, the part with N is hilarious that you had trouble with him (granted, I was prepared for him when I faced him but I had a balanced team too and didn't know what Pokemon he had), but his twattiness aspect is respected from your point of view; his viewpoint on life can in fact get annoying for someone who isn't invested in the story (gasp, story in Pokemon?).
Also, you don't particularly NEED to catch 'em all anymore; that's just a novelty concept with Pokemon these days, specifically because of the 700+ ones running around (and about 100 of those don't run around and are exclusives and honestly truly are for mad people). Many people just collect off of the online places or the FAQ forums or just get lucky with their own findings. You could just take your seven or eight Pokemon and just be done with it, or breed from the bottom up and make new Pokemon fit for fighting. And that got more and more viable with each passing game.
Also ironic that Skyla made you compare the experience to bird training...gonna let you think about that one if you're actually reading this.
I'll commend you for your raising several differently-typed Pokemon and not raising just the starter and overleveling it to the point where it curbstomps everything. Tepig, Blitzle, Sandile if I'm guessing correctly...all good choices.
"In brief, a game for collectors who can't function in society without having 100 Percent of something"
Wow, he totally got me. I Always go out of my way to complete as much of a game as possible, so long as it's possible and I don't have to waste more than 2 hours to get the requirement.
Pokemon seems to be a hit or miss with most people. Either you've played and enjoyed them all, or you played the gen current of your childhood and never again. My case is the former. I played gold in 2001 when I was 7 or 8 (and I think I played the rom of red before that when I didn't have a gameboy), and have played every pokemon since.
But the part about playing only the gen of your childhood is key: there is essentially a gen for each generation of children, and I believe that is largely the point of them making multiple games. Just try handing pokemon red on the GB to today's 10-year-olds; they would hate it.
Also, to anyone who doesn't understand this, the point of the game isn't to catch them all; that was just the slogan early on to create excitement and a collectors' frenzy, back when the game was a largely new concept and it needed the publicity.
I'm different to that. I've played and enjoyed everything...up until ORAS and SM, and haven't bought another since.
Also, I believe lots of kids can't stand RBY because it's so dated and clunky. They started getting a lot more polished after.
You just summed up the entire internet in one comment. I need this framed and on my wall so I can show all my friends.
Pokemon bw was actually my favourite pokemon game but this was hilarious
Gabrielle Dunn
"Pokemon Beached Whale"
That was te first thing I thought of when I read that.
Gabrielle Dunn BWs you favorite? Wot!? You need moar nostalgia!?... or not, idk, can't be arsed to care what pukimun fans are up to.
+Gabrielle Dunn What about b2w2? They took bw and spent 2 years improving them.
Steam Powered Pixel I liked the story of the first ones better
Nah, B2 and W2 took the good story from the originals and went, "Yeah, some stuff happened after. But it's all good now. Oh and something about a cat or something."
I SUMMON WHOLK!
Can't wait for october 12th for the madness to begin again!
I happen to know lot of other people who play Pokemon. The thing is, you don't need to complete the Pokedex, and with the features they've now added they made catching them all a lot easier. I actually liked that gym leader with the Emolga. I thought it was actually really creative to trick the player into getting a ground type only to fool them. Getting a ground type in that battle also makes it easier because the Emolga can't use volt switch. I also more or less like Pokemon designs, though some of them are really stupid (like red and white ball and larger red and white ball, and pile of sludge and bigger pile of sludge). A lot of them, though, I actually really like. Yet again, I understand people not liking the franchise. It gets stale really quickly and the plot is always annoyingly identical, even in the spinoffs. From a tactical standpoint, a lot of Pokemon are head and shoulders better than others, so in order to win the game you sometimes need to sacrifice what you want for what is good. Also, most battles really are just won by switching in something that's strong against the enemy type, which gets boring and repetitive. And yeah, wild encounters are the most obnoxious things ever crafted.
+LunarD3A7H Blaziken is my favorite pokemon of all time. Never found any pokemon game challenging in the slightest since all you have to do is send out your starter for every battle and murder everything since it will be super over lvled if you only use that one. The only challenge comes from doing the after party of the games where you battle teams of set lvls.
As a Pokemon fan... eh, yeah, I can agree with what he's saying. I guess I'm not as big of a fan as my friends are due to the fact that I have better things to do than catch all 700+ Pokemon, or farm for perfect IVs and shinies. I'll say that the first and only time I caught a shiny I felt very happy with myself. I'll never forget the green wingull. But when my friends collect shinies like it's nobody's business it loses that feeling. But I digress. Maybe if I were a big enough fan I would be bitching and whining and taking Yahtzee's insults seriously.
Christ, what has watching this show turned me into? Or was I already fit to enjoy this show? I love seeing Yahtzee tear apart games that others love and I am indifferent towards. I even enjoy Nintendo and I mostly agree with his rants on their games he disapproves of. Huh, and I love games like Papers Please and Earthbound, and so does he. Maybe I'm as much of a walking-talking-hubris as Yahtzee is, just lacking his simile-filled wit.
TL;DR: Oh man I agree with you so much Yahtzee! We are so alike! *kisses Yahtzee's ass*
I lost it at the part where he said their cry's sounded like their tails were trapped in a car door
"there's really only one strategy in pokemon"
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jazaniac I mean, it all does boil down to, "hit it with the attack it's weak to." Just more advanced versions of it. Or Sturdy-Destiny Bond, but that's just evil.
Kabobawsome I mean, there’s a style of team who literally wins the match by outliving the opposite side, using moves such as Will-o-Wisp, Toxic and Recover to do so. As much as I understand what he meant in the video, I cannot agree with this, since a lot of times there’s way more shit involved in a battle then just “use the move your opponent is weak against”.
@@vencedore1000 yeah, but he means in single player. When you go against other people, it might get strategic (assuming their Pokemon aren't 30-50 levels higher than yours). But against ai opponents, whacking away at things with corresponding anti-thing sticks is the way to go.
Death by Comedy Cemetarial Association Well that seems about right. Game Freak has been putting a lot of effort in making the endgame better for breeding/training/catching legendary and useful Pokémon for the competitive players. I mean, the single player mode got even worse after the Exp. Share change, but that and a few other changes made the 6th gen online battling quite better, as a lot of players who wouldn’t have the time to train their mons now could do it a lot faster.
I agreed with everything you said.
"Hey, junior, he is fighting you with a fucking puppy. You've still got your foot haven't you?!".
I cracked up at this part. XD
I always like to come back to this video to remind myself that Yahtzee was filtered by a fucking Emolga.
Am I the only one who notices how Pokemon game covers went from basic starter pokemon to just throwing legends on the cover? Talk about a fucking spoiler.
I've seen three of this guy's videos like these and I already love it
All I think Pokemon really needs at this point is just a major balancing rework. They just need to change how the AI functions and how the difficulty works for the single player game. For the most part, the game is very easy with difficulty appearing in very simple, somewhat cheap difficulty spikes that involve being suddenly underleveled at certain junctures of the adventure. Otherwise, it's pretty easy to plow through the game with little serious resistance.
What I hope Game Freak does eventually is make the AI considerably smarter, but less cheap. Difficulty for single player Pokemon mostly just involves surpassing level caps, making sure you grind enough to stay up to pace with difficulty curve, which is somewhat boring. If they make it so you don't have to grind endlessly, but the AI is more of a threat and you have to more strategically adapt to their Pokemon and battle styles, I think the gameplay will be much better for it. Make it more like competitive Pokemon, level the playing field. Make other trainers more of a threat and less of simply hordes of baddies to mow down during your romp from town to town.
I recommend you check out something called "Pokemon Reborn". It's a masterpiece in my opinion.
I've never heard of the Groundingnailsintomyfuckingeyes type. Was it a rare thing in Gen 5?
4:29 Love the energy dome the madman is wearing.
I wish to add on top of what Yhatzee says.
Fanboys proceed with caution.
When playing this game it feels like a chore skipping through stupid dialogue that sounds exactly like the last generation and having to stop every single time I enter a town with a gym to grind a ton of xp to upgrade my pokemon 5 levels, which freezes the game entirely until I get enough xp to beat the gym leader who is way too powerful for you when you first enter the town. When you beat the gym leader you skip merrily along until you hit another wall of a gym leader who's pokemon have evolved into God. The games are not hard, they just take a while to complete, giving you the illusion of difficulty. The games are the same thing every generation and it's loved by fanboys and hypocrites who hate Call of Duty for being the same every game. I do not like COD I am just giving an example of what I think should be compared to Pokemon which doesn't even bother to change dialogue.
You could say the same of most other RPGs, but it doesn't really apply here.
Sure you can beat it just by grinding, but the good thing about Pokemon is that if you create your team well you shouldn't have to, which is cleverly designed for a game that's aiming for mass appeal.
And yes they are too similar.
KittXenn Gonna have to disagree there, because nothing I've ever tried has saved me from grinding. You always have to catch up, especially when new-age Gary starts popping up when I'm least prepared. I never had to do this in other RPGs. Even if there is the occasional side quest, atleast it has a story and you can skip it if you want.
So...annoying gameplay and the same story from more than 10 years ago. Basically the COD of RPGs.
Lyushcho COD of RPGs? That's painful, although I'll admit, not too inaccurate. The only real problem I have with it is variety.
My excuse for grinding is that I'm better.
Thing is, you're basically correct. It's a horrendous time sink that is simultaneously pitifully easy and incredibly aggravating and repetitive. But it does have a kind of... well I guess 'charm'. The game convinces people to like Pokemon by telling you they're *your* pokemon; it's almost kind of sinister how easily it can convince you that a pixel creature that looks exactly like every other is special only to you.
I'm not saying Pokemon brainwashes people...
But it actually kind of does.
Lyushcho My only problem with your argument is this: some of us actually find that sort of thing fun. I'm not one for FPS games, and COD in particular has this nasty habit of spawning me on top of things that are currently exploding. I like 1v1 fighters, but those can get pretty boring after a while. Pokemon in its current form is basically a unique fighter, in that it's turn-based, you have a team of 6, there are elemental and status effects... all of that. The story portion of the games may be easy, but there's a bit of depth to be mined from the battle system, which is kinda fun for someone like me, who enjoys RPGs and fighters both.
I can't believe I only just found out about this. This guy's hilarious :p
It’s fun to hear a person who has never played Pokemon give an opinion on it. It’s refreshing. I find pokemon enjoyable because training your team from nothing to overpowered boss monsters is incredibly addictive. After finding the joys of the Nuzlocke there’s no way I could ever turn my back on Pokemon.
I'm sure Yahtzee would enjoy Pokemon X/Y now that they give you the Exp Share early on that basically eliminates level grinding.
+Black Mammoth
He never spoke to level-grinding being an issue.
+Gabriel Groenendaal well it kind is, or my level to grind is too low, because it doesn't really incentives you to try out new pokemons and see what works for you. you have to know what team you are doing since the beginning and if you don't then you have to waste a lot of time grinding them to decent levels, since all of them are caught low level with a crappy moveset. That's why every time a start a new pokemon game I just search on the forums for acceptable teams.
Well if Pokémon is for mad people I don't wanna be sane
+pokemonmanic3595 well your fucking weird.
Gnome Mom Good, I LIKE being weird ;P
i like how yahtzee's videos don't necessarily create controversy but because everything he's saying is reasonable everyone's reaction is normally akin to something like "god dammit he's right"
Not really
"Theres really only one strategy in Pokemon" FUCKING LOL. And if you had to fight N 3 times at the Ferris While you obviously aren't very good at the game. Stay away from X&Y Yahtzee
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the definition of a "wanker."
Guilty
You have your nostalgia goggles on too tight. Also, Sigilyph is really overpowered unless you overgrind a Blitzle or keep spamming healing items.
Except for the fact that i don't lol
Actually, why am I seeking conflict with you? It's a game, and we all play it differently. Just keep in mind he had to rush through this game inside of a week.
Throw anime eyes over it when its done
Angry eyes if evolved 😂😂😂😂
My god this made me piss myself laughing, I've played pokemon for years since I was a lil' kiddy and although I love it to pieces seeing it being torn up like this is hilarious, and the line "The main selling point of pokemon is to introduce another batch of the little bastards" Love the videos! :)
This was actually the last Pokemon game I ever played, and I remember thinking that if there were more strategy involved and the game were more difficult I could probably really get into it. As it is, you end up sticking with one team the entire game and only replacing members when you find a Pokemon that's better. I just couldn't get into it, because all the things you could do felt extremely unrewarding.
This series is crying out for a variety of difficulty levels.
"I remember thinking that if there were more strategy involved and the game were more difficult I could probably really get into it." Ever heard of Smogon university?
You can change the difficulty in newer games, but as far as i can tell it only raises the enemies levels.
I wish higher difficulty made the enemies smarter.
TheWraithOfMooCow I agree. It's one of the problems with Fire Emblem, too. They just put higher levels on people in more inconvenient locations, as if to hide their horrible AI. FE is a little more offensive, though, because IntSys have shown they could make good AI before.
NUZLOCKE~!!!
Foxnullius
Why does fake difficulty even have to exist?
I love the Pokemon gaming franchise, but I do agree with a lot of this. Its just something you have to get used to overtime and there are a lot of people that don't have the free time to get absorbed into the game. Nevertheless, I will keep playing the games.
Yeah, I love Pokemon, but I'd never claim it's for everyone.
Personally what I hate about Pokémon (and the sole reason i've never even finished one) is that it REQUIRES you to catch a lot of pokémon which is fine, but what isn't fine is that it doesn't compensate for the amount of xp you're getting meaning that sooner or later you're gonna stumble across a gym where all the trainers' pokémon are 20 levels higher than yours.
For me the fun of it was training my pokemon. I didn't concentrate on catching them all. I only caught the ones that looked cool or pretty. I generally only train 3 pokemon to defeat the elite four and use the others as sacrifices in battle, but that's just my style.
TH-cam gave me "An error occurred" while watching this. It stopped at 4:20. I think I'm laughing harder than I should
Am I the only one who actually likes the fucking gear Pokemon and the ice cream Pokemon? Compared to the same generic animals we see a lot (not too much, though, i don't really have a problem with those, either), the gears and the ice cream are kind of creative. But not Trubbish and Garbodor. Fuck them. We already had Grimer and Muk and I didn't even like them, we don't need more of them.
Bear in mind, I love Pokemon, but people need to stop complaining about these gear Pokemon and ice cream Pokemon, because they're actually kind of creative.
I had a nightmare about the gear Pokemon once. Not joking
+CZMF I respect your opinion pal. But I rather disagree with your opinion. (not 100% tho.)
The terrible designs of the Ice-cream and gears Pokemon along with Trubbish and Garbodor are just totally terrible, un-creative, and Just damn super dumb! These terrible designs are like a slap to the face for older Pokemon gen fans. (same goes with the cotton candy fairy abomination and keys....just keys....)
Now don't get me wrong. Gen 1 and the others also had a fair share of bad Pokemon designs. And some of them are just really bad. (like the Pokeball Pokemon Voltorb and its evolution.) But we EXPECTED for the creators to be carefully more creative next time and think of something very inventive or cool. But instead we still get some really bad designs that prevent the games from getting a perfect 10...Even Game Informer criticized some of the Pokemon designs and termed some of the them LAUGHINGLY BAD.
Pokemon based off of food is meh...But the concept of it isn't too bad. If done right. it can be pretty dang good or creative/inventive. Sadly, the creativity was empty on those designs.
Just my opinion here.
You have to give Nintendo's Pokemon division credit though. Every generation, they make a new engine for the game (aside from Gen 1 and 2) and make new monsters. Problem is though, those new monsters are looking extremely stupid. They got so pressed for ideas, they made a key-chain pokemon. I kid you not.
There is also a sword
i'm sick of hearing that argument when gen 1 had a pile of sludge a pokeball with eyes and some eggs
ryan baylis Sure it was lazy, but it wasn't done before, and we had lower standereds because we were playing on GameBoys. It was the first gen. There was plenty of room for error. There is no excuse why they should have a keychain pokemon in Gen 8. Or was it 7?
***** yeah but every gen has pokemon with a simple design and some with an amazingly epic design
so making one shit design means they're pressed for ideas? so in the beginning when they made a seal pokemon called seel they weren't pressed for ideas?
"There's really only one strategy in Pokemon, use whatever the enemy is weak to."
I almost cried.
you should've tried Platinum
+Nathan Vincent that's the second worst one though
The Easily Bored Gamer >I M P L Y I N G
they're all the same game though
ehhh yes and no
I really enjoyed this video it's obviously a satire but I really well done one nonetheless ( and yes I'm a Pokemon fan)
desdar100 It's not QUITE a satire. His video persona is purposely harsh, and in fact, he does a weekly column where he apologizes for all the mean things he says in his videos. They are definitely similar, though, and it'd be an interesting discussion. Also, your avatar is adorable.
I mean, he is a critic
pokemon pasta in the same vain as the AVGN or Nostalgia critic
I enjoy pokemon, and still found this amusing as I don't know what. You sir have earned a subscriber.
Lol I found this rather funny. I would like to point out though that pokemon is made for kids. Although a lot of the people playing it (myself included) are a lot older and started with the original pokemon games these new games are still meant to be playable by children and therefore easy. They haven't completely neglected their older players however as they put a lot of work on the competitive side of pokemon making the game much more complicated than it seems. If you want to see just how hard pokemon can be I suggest you look up competitive battling and go online against some people.
Yahtzee would get destroyed in any competitive environment if he thinks that Pokemon's fighting system is that simple.