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1988 - IBM PS/2 Model 50z Cleaning, Overview and Testing - 761
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2018
- I got my hand on this old IBM PS/2 Model 50z,,, and thought we should just have a look at it, before I get rid of it again.
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I really hope you don't throw it away, its my first PC! You should find someone who would love to display it!!!!
Hi Daniel Tekmyster
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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Being modular, I used to be able to break one down totally in under a minute for cleaning and problem resolution , one bloke pissed me off, so I dismantled his 50z and just left all the parts on his desk for the next day, he was VERY nice after that :)
Hi Silas Hack
Thank You very much! That was pure eval :-)
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Speaking of mechanics, a local shop here has a alignment machine from the early 90's. Still runs off an old 486 computer. It has proprietary software that can't run off newer machines, so when/ if the computer fails completely, the machine is basically scrap metal.
Hi Travis Piper
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Loved the PS/2's . The 50z was the zero wait state update Model 50 PS/2.
Hi Repsol Fanatic
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There's something wrong with me. Yesterday on my way to work, I saw an Opel Omega A in Cologne, the boring old late eighties Pampers Bomber style family car, and I enjoyed the sight. For one of the local routes here, the Deutsche Bahn railway peeps reactivated and renovated a train from around 1970, and I love it. I never owned a car that was younger than 10 years and to my left I right now look at my C64 and the 3D-printed model of a Cray1.
And I love that clunky old PS/2 PC. I know it's practically useless, but that "Plonk!" when you throw the switch…
Fun fact: I had the idea to design a 1:10th scale model of a cray 2 as case for a Raspberry Pi cluster a while ago, which started me thinking how many Raspberry Pi 3s it would take to actually match the calculating power of a Cray 2. The result was a bit shocking. If I remember the numbers right, the Cray 2 achieved around 380 MFlops at full throttle, a Raspberry Pi 3 around 310 MFlops. I was thinking about putting 5 Raspies into that Wannabe-Cray, so this little project computer cluster would have blown the real thing stratight out off the water in numbers.
Hi Eo Tunun
Thank You very much! a Raspberry Pi3 in a 1:10 model of an IBM PS/2 would be really cool :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Don't you give me more ideas, the queue of projects waiting to be finished over here is full already! ^^)
I used one of these for about a year, mine had a Hard Drive as well. They were solid machines :)
#t5h8 cool how &is work work?
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I have serviced many of these,, not this exact model but close,, But never used one.
Good video...
What memories brought me that old system 80286
regards
Hi Cyber ACME
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You honestly deserve more views and subs, Ive known about your channel for about 3-4 years know and like to watch your video randomly. Youre infomative and great at explaining everything keep up the great work Morton!
Hi Z S
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Something is dragging my channel down,, not sure what..
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I might still have IBM's DOS. Had OS/2 as well. Of course MS 6.22 and windows prevailed. Good to see this and all of your videos.
Hi doug holtz
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Oh, I've once had been given 2 IBM PS/2's in the late 90s, they were even a bit older, with 2 DD floppy drives (720kB). A bit lower case, but wider. They had an 8088 CPU, and some ancient RAM modules which looked like the old SIMMs, but had pins instead of PCB contacts. Once, I turned one on and let it run, then slid a screwdriver over the RAM socket of one of the modules. It made a spark and the computer died. But when I turned it back on, it booted up without a problem!
I ones had a 8088 laptop,, but my first PC was a 386SX 33MHz
I used Norton Commander back in the day as well. Nowadays, I like to use midnight commander, and it still kicks ass! Especially since it is much more powerful, it can do things like ssh and ftp connections for transfering files.
Hi Seegal Galguntijak
Thank You very much! I also used Norton commander,, it was great,, before windows took over everything :-)
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Oh, man. That's a nice computer! Hope it finds a home instead of the landfill. I have a couple geeky friends in Copenhagen that might be interested!
Hi Adam Christensen
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Don't throw it out! Find some vintage computer enthusiast who would like to have it and give it to them! There are lots of people who love this old hardware and take real good care of it! Last weekend, I was on the Vintage Computer Festival in Berlin, and there, they didn't have one of those! (But many C64's, Apple Lisa's and PDP8's, and lots more nice stuff like that, but also newer devices like the Apple Newton and more). But you would need to give all the passwords to the collector that takes it.
Hi Seegal Galguntijak
Thank You very much! or reset the psw's
Thank you for watching! :-)
For some reason I've always loved the look of the PS/2 line. Something about it...
Especially the PS/2 P70, man that thing's neat with the amber gas plasma display
They were small and sleek looking compared to the big chunks all the previous IBMs and clones were to that point (and since)
Hi LeiserGeist
Thank You very much! I have worked on those as well...
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I apreciate the video.
I just love how these machines look. Even without the cover it just looks nice. And the whole modular system is pretty cool, definitely for that time.
I used to own two of these, that I was given by some family friends. I eventually gave one to a friend, and put the other online for free. And a farmer came to pick one up. Saying he needed it for his machine that makes the numbering earrings for cows. His original one had died, and the replacement was too fast to run the software, so he was looking for a machine like this.
I still have two Olivetti machines and two Highscreen pc's, one of which is the Highscreen Colani one, which has a special design to it. I also have a few Pentium 1 systems, but a lot of Pentium 2, and Pentium 3 machines that I have collected over the years. I plan on fixing them up and maybe upgrading them a little (I've managed to buy a lot of 512MB SDRAM sticks for cheap) and maybe sell them for a fair price or give away to people who want to play the games of their past on the original hardware once again.
Hi Naomi Baron
Thank You very much! I really do not want to get, into collecting old machines...
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Nowadays, when people hear about Norton, they would refer to the antivirus software.
But his name is Morten not Norton
Hi Mark Arca
Norton commander was way better than there Anti virus stuff :-)
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The "big" floppy drives at that time were 2.88 MB, used in some PS/2 models. It did not get momentum to gain much popularity. Fun to see how IBM got a lot of success with their original PC line, aping the Apple II concept of openly usable slots for anyone willing to make hardware. Apple went proprietary instead, and down they went. Then IBM switched to the improved but proprietary MCA bus, wanting others to pay licencing fees. Almost all said no to IBM, and down they went, with PS/2 only becoming the name of the keyboard/mouse ports IBM introduced.
Hi Johnnie Hougaard Nielsen
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I had the same computer much time ago. The IBM Model 50 was my first computer and I enjoy it a lot playing games like Maniac Mansion and Monkey Island. I would like to get one but it is impossible find one today.
I gave this one away, so it could be used somewhere else,, I am not really a collector of old stuff :-)
I've gotten my first PC in 1992, it was an AMD 386 DX-40 with 4MB of RAM and a 120MB HDD. A few years later I bought my first "build to order" PC, which was a Pentium 90MHz with 16MB RAM and a whopping 850MB Hard drive (which later died on me, because it was a Conner drive). After that, I built my first PC myself, which was a Celeron-A with 333MHz and 128MB RAM...Oh, those were old times...also, I was still suffering from being dumbed down by Microsoft GUIs that hide stuff from the user (although it only got really bad once I had become clean).
1991 or 1992 I got a 386SX 33MHz 1Mb and 20MB HD got an extra 1MB soon after that.
OK, it must have been 1993 for me - since it was my parents' old office pc that they gave me when they bought themselves a new 486 DX-40 (same megahertz, but 8MB RAM and 240MB HDD, so doubled everything else).
Keep the old crap coming, we love that stuff. My first PC was an IBM XT that came from a cemetery, it had two 10 Meg hdd's, noisy as hell, I learned DOS on that thing and it served me well for many years. The thing I liked most about DOS 6.2 was the book that came with it, spiral bound and every command came with syntax and examples of how to use it. If Linux had the same thing for its command line I might consider switching.
Hi scotty B
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That was common in the good old days, even alla Unices/VMSes had a full library of manuals, I remember tons of valuable manuals about all aspects of the system for SunOS and Digital VMS, from assembly to all languages and behind. That was until the second half of 90s when paper manuals started to disappear. Not all that is for the bad: now we have more space and anyone can find manuals for free on the net about all hardwares and all softwares even, current and past. Not bad,at all for me.
Lovely machine. I got a old sun pc. Sparc station.
Was that your first?
Why would one ever want to get rid of this beauty???????? Keep it, keep it, keep it
Or sell it to me of course... lol
Hi Jelle Smid
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My oldest piece of kit is an IBM Thinkpad with a 9.7" monochrome display and a 486 CPU with 4MB of RAM
Hi Hunter's Moon
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My first real computer was a 286 Tandy 1000tx. I bought it on sale for $1000 and then had to buy a bunch of stuff for it. I paid $150 for a 3.5" floppy drive. I remember before then when you had to low level and high level format a hard drive.
Hi Scott Downey
Thank You very much! Yes and tell the bios how many heads,cylinders and sectors,, the HD had.
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I still use Total Commander with pretty much the same UI as NC. It's a lovely tool.
Hi Jesper Monsted
Thank You very much! I also had it installed in windows for a long time,,, but it died out on me..
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30 years old and it still works...
Hi bassjunk3
Yes,, that is actually not bad! glad you liked the video :-)
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It would be really cool if you could make a video on an old IBM ps/2 server. Really enjoy your content
Hi horrorweedvideo
Nahh would just be a dust collector.
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Fast facts: MCA - Micro Channel Architecture; EISA - Extended Industry-Standard Architecture; PCI - Peripheral Component Interconnect ,and the first two was now obsolete. Although PCI still exists, it is increasingly replaced by newer standards like PCI-Express.
Hi Mark Arca
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Party like it's 1999 at Morten's Retro Playhouse! :D
Hi Simon Vannarath
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Oh, but IBM made hard drives for a long time! Only in the early 2000s, they sold their hard drive department to some other manufacturer. So it was probably really made by IBM.
Hi Seegal Galguntijak
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Oh, Good old Norton Commander :-)
Hi Volvodennis
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Workstations are "beefed-up" PCs. It means it have higher specs than standard PCs.
Hi Mark Arca
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Man ive been looking for a 286 in any form here in the states for 5 years no luck to bad shipping is so much
Hi cjhawk67
Yes You are better off getting it over there : www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=IBM%2050z&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=3&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
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IBM used to have a head quarters in Croydon, UK not far from where I lived. Building has long been taken over by other buinesses.
Hi Philip Saunders
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Last time I went past IBM at Greenock it was been demolished so no more IBM systems out of there
Hi Oliver Seacombe
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The guys over at the Home Computer Museum in the Netherlands might want it.
Hi douro20
Thank You very much! Not sure it's old enough.
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I am up for this IBM PS2, don't throw it away. Please tell me the cost to sent it to France and I will pay it if not too much.
Hi Rodrik
Sorry I am getting rid of this locally,, next week it's being picked up.
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I remember these very well. Showing my age!!!
Hi Richard Fuller
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No 5¼"? Newfangled stuff. ;) Still got a 286 Schneider PC from '87 loaded with DOS 3 and Windows 2(?) somewhere around. Sadly the whopping 12MB HDD failed due to - uhm - let's say incorrect use.
Hi BitBastelei
Thank You very much! My brother got a Schneider PC 386 16SX for his confirmation,,, 1991 I believe.. I build my first, shortly after that..
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I believe they still build POWER systems in Scotland.
Hi douro20
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You should properly secure delete the drive before tossing it.
Hi kjakobsen
Thank You very much! Yes,, it's not secret secret,,, just not something I needed to share that much!
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these are going for a couple of hundred bucks US on ebay so even if it cost 100 bucks to ship it would be cheaper than buying it.
Hi Wes Brown
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I guess Midnight Commander (Linux) was based on Norton Commander.
Hi LilZebra
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Ahh ye olde disk operating system, i remember it well :-D.
That machine looked like it had a socket for a maths co-pro by the main processor.
Bios in two roms, some machines had microsoft basic in one.
My first pc was an Xt class blistering speed 6mhz elernex lol.
Digital research dos v6, similar to msdos.
I had XT-Pro file manager and norton utils.
Hi zx8401ztv
Thank You very much! My first PC was a 386SX 16MHz 2 MB of ram and an old WD 20MB HD :-)
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Great video, as usual!
Hi Artur Araripe
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I’ll Pick it up - being from Denmark - this shouldn’t be a problem:-)
Hi amnesia5230
If you really want it send me an email,,,, I will pick the person most worthy :-)
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I had that model (:
Hi tjousk
Thank You very much! It pretty cool that it just boots, after 30 years... glad you liked the video :-)
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your first pc was in 94? man your old ! LOL
i got my first one in 84 ! commodore 64 !!! :)
Hi MrOne2watch
Thank You very much! we got the commodore 128,, in 1987,, and my first PC I build back in 1991,, I believe...
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Or maybe there are museums that you could donate it to, instead of a private collector?
It was picked up,, I forget where it went!
I want mine back
Hi Joel Crocker
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My first system was A Commodore 64 System
The8BitGuy might like this! :P
Hi MrTetanux
If you see his videos,, you know that he is all out of room!!
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I was thinking a trip over the border into Germany to see Jan Beta!
just send it to dave..atleast daves know how computers are designed
I was like 286, and the CPU is a 286.
old CPU,, from way back then.
lol very good pc.now you can play every game i suggest bf1
Hi Shahzaib Ali
Yarh I have been playing a whole lot of crysis,, in 4K... :-P
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XD you are a very nice person I like your work.would you like to join me in my discord server?
First! No more, I have to say second...
Hi Stefano Bettega
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