Jim Cornette on The Vince McMahon Scandal Timeline
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2024
- From Episode 518 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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*_Vince must have so many NDAs that he forgot to pay the $3m one._*
Part of the issues with NDAs is that everyone always assumes something illegal is happening. These can just as easily be NDAs because the Chairman of a billion dollar company doesn’t need the public knowing he has cuckolding fetishes or a weird agreement with his wife for the last 30 years.
That would be wild if that's all this was
Vince felt that he got betrayed so he just didn't finish the payments. He paid 1 million probably to keep it under the radar of the corporate oversight.
Signing the nda on behalf of wwe incorrectly, that's actually a great legal strategy. Most people, even lawyers, may not clue in that it's incorrect. If it actually goes to court it insulates the wwe from prosecution and that's where Vince has his money. He'd be open for legal challenge, but the wwe may be safe.
Vince wasn't paying it. WWE was paying it and since endeavor owns the company now they stopped paying.
@veganhigler6541 Come back when you learn the difference between "to" and "from."
"I truly believe...Vince McMahon screwed Vince McMahon."
There is a time honored tradition...
I bet Bret Hart is smiling
@@masonteague4039 he won’t be blaming Goldberg for Vince’s downfall that’s for sure.
And half the women in the office
I prayed for it... 😂😂😂😂
Remember when Shane returned and had the secret box with dirt on Vince in storyline? Was that art imitates life? We never did learn what it was…
Nah, it was Baby Doll's pictures of Dusty
Pepperidge Farm remembers
It was prolly a turd.
@@richborn6700 HA HA HA well played!
@@richborn6700it's very fitting how do you use the quote from a masonic satanic show that makes pedophile jokes about a masonic satanic loser who owns a satanic company who hires pedophiles that makes pedophile jokes it's pretty ironic
I can't wait for the Vince omnibus in December 😂
Hahaha yes
It will be 48 hours long.
Egg! Egg!
@@patbrooks9823more like all of January long 😂
@@patbrooks982369 hours long, if it's a minute.
"Y'know...Laurinaitis is a guy that's not well thought of by too many people."... i almost spit my coffee.
Literally never heard a single good thing about him lol
The classic Southern charm, tact and hospitality--speaking truth but softening it and making it vague enough to sound complimentary if you aren't listening closely. You hear it a lot in funeral eulogies, e.g. "he was a man that everyone in town knew and few forgot", "many remember him most fondly as a child”, "a strong-willed man who knew the value of a good deal", "he taught his children to be stronger", "his family hopes that Christ may finally guide him", "he was called home" (i.e. Hell), “he ascended to his eternal reward”.
that was the understatement of the fkn year... 💯☠🤣
I'm loving everyone turning on each other and people out of nowhere claiming they knew all along but didn't say anything
Exactly. Your comment only has one like and probably won't gain many more...but it's the most basis thing that hardly anyone is wise enough to even comprehend. 👍
It's why these "he said" "she said" cases generally don't go anywhere
@@zhougongjin2704I feel sorry for your parents
No@@zhougongjin2704
@@astuteandy As Jerry Lawler used to say, they're looking for a loophole in the birth certificate.
The tv execs at VICE are licking their chops. Probably already started recording the next Dark Side of the Ring. Lol. 😅
Vince is going to need his own season of Dark Side lol
He will need his own season 2 hours episodes each.. 😂😂😂
“Dark Side of the WWE” could have several seasons.
The timing of Jerry Mcdevitt announcing his retirement makes you wonder how much more he knew about Vince's scandals before they became public.
Wait, what??! Oh!! It's deeper than what we all originally thought.. That rabbit hole is deep and we will be surprised of what we find in it..
Smh. I think many people are neck deep in this clusterfuck.
@@kenrickeason If I remember right, Jerry called his "retirement" early and then a few weeks later they started the MLW lawsuit. That was going to be the first major Vince/WWE Lawsuit that he wasn't going to be a part of. He had to know something bigger was going to drop and he was like I AM OUT
Jerry McDivitt is Vince's attorney and he didn't retire Kevin Dunn did!!!!!
@@P_Partridge Jerry McDivitt excused himself from the MLW lawsuit because he is/was going to retire at the end of the year last year. He is wrapping up his legal career if he hasn't already. Corny talked about it last year
Was about to go to sleep. Now I'm staying up for this
Dude I have playlist of corny and fall asleep at least once a week and play corny all night long hahha
Ha. Same. I cant help it hahaha
Fuuuuuuu me too
literally in the same boat
Me too
So Brock walked out because he thought there would be no more pee videos if Vince was gone.
Hahaha yeah
I always got the feeling that the only reason Brock asked for that was because Vince told him "She'll do anything you ask, pal!" and he just wanted to test it.
@@meciociolol
@@chuckles9767or you could become a grown up & pay for porn instead of watching the free ones! J/k
Few divas came out and said Brock try to get them in bed in 2002 2003
Cornette knowing that Donald Blake is the alter ego of Thor was casually mind blowing.
The man's knowledge knows no bounds 🧠
I wonder which is greater; his wrestling knowledge or his comic book knowledge.
Donald Blake sounds like such a bland American name... I would have expected something, you know, more scandinavian.
Jim is quite the comic book connoisseur. He's talked about a few valuable books he owns.
@@Apocalypse3434 cool to know!
Surprising he has space in his head for comics triv as well as all the decades of granular old-timey wrestling triv.
The promo where Stephanie screams at vince for pimping her out at 17 gonna be awkward if the msm ever find it
There’s a few “storylines” I’m thinking twice about that involved old Vince now.
@@ThatCarGuy1000 anything from the 03 vince/Stephanie feud is gonna be wiped from history
@@michaellee8816mate, i was thinking about how weird that storyline was. I was 9 years old and even then it felt awkward how he would look at his daughter
Bro she was probably the lynch pin in Jericho signing
Oh yeah dig it
You couldn't write a soap opera this good
"I don't think that's PG...." - R. Truth
I'm sure Russo would have plenty of ideas for it.
@@EwanCumiaYou beat me to it. It fits right in. (D'oh)!
U could but people would complain it’s not based in reality
This is "Who Shot J.R.?" x1000.
To quote Airheads: "Rockstars don't go to jail. Vince Neil only did thirty days, and he killed somebody."
The Lostprophets lead singer got almost thirty years for sex crimes… although he probably doesn’t qualify as a “star.”
Vince won’t see a night in jail come on
@@whatsoperadoc7050that’s highly documented, serial pedophilia
Underrated film
@@MauricioSandoval-xc9ih Sadly you are probably right.
when Brian was mentioning times Vince lost he forgot a main one, losing the right to be the WWF
oh shit that's right, the World Wildlife Fund 💯👍🏾☠🤣😭
He ended up making more money with the WWE
He lost a fight with a panda bear, as Jim once said
That's not true. The legal ruling only applied to the UK and was specifically focused on the attitude era scratch logo, that why that got blurred for years on dvd releases. They changed to avoid any future legal issues but that was Vince's choice, it wasn't forced.
@@DavidBaillie1986no it focused on using WWF as an abbreviation. As the World Wildlife Fund does. Its fucking stupid either way and that charity has since been exposed as a total scam.
The sexual teasing Vince did with women on-screen during the Attitude and Ruthless Aggression eras look way worse in hingsight, not that people didn't already suspect Vince of being a creep once the cameras stopped rolling. He's just powerful and rich enough to get away with it.
What's grossest about all of this is the way it has sent everything into a spin as people look back and question and re-question everything they thought they knew. That's the ultimate price of letting someone like McMahon just go unchecked for so long. It's awful.
Innocent till proven guilty in a court of law, not the court of public opinion.
@@areyouokayanniebecauseIam When you’ve got the main plaintiff plus 4 other women coming forward with their own stories that can establish a pattern of behavior that will bolster the claims of the main plaintiff, in addition to the text messages and whatever other comms she can produce, it’s all over but the crying. If there was nothing to the allegations WWE/TKO/Endeavor would have circled the wagons and said “There’s nothing to this, these are fabrications and lies, we staunchly support Vince,” but they absolutely didn’t do that. You knew the jig was up as soon as Laurenitis’s lawyer stated that “my client is ALSO a victim.” Johnny Ace just confirmed it’s all true because he didn’t deny doing anything that’s been alleged, he said he did it on Vince’s orders. So if you don’t want to believe the women, believe the man that’s throwing Vince under the bus to save his own ass. He’s not saying “that never happened,” he’s saying “I did it because Vince told me to do it and he was there”.
As far as public opinion, guilty or not in court, people already think Vince is a monster and there’s no sympathy for him except from the simps.
For me, it's all the hundreds of people who must have turned a blind eye, ignored or covered up whistleblowing, or conveniently claim they never saw or heard anything. The powerful el!tes only get away scot-free with crimes for years because no-one stops them. And granted, hypercapitalistic hierarchies disempower people lower on the ladder from preventing abuse, but we always have a voice and a choice.
😮😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😮😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Vince paid more in settlements than he paid 4 the entire WCW & ECW Catalog …#Damn 🎬
Here's another thing, didn't Jerry mcdevitt retire after Vince came back, he had to have heard rumblings about it, what if he said "Vince the evidence is overwhelming, I cannot represent you"
Loved the ‘Willard’ reference, a film about a killer rat 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That is not what that movie is about.
@@cjmk5923 Yeah, it is. A young guy called Willard gets fired from the company his Dad started. He has power over rats and uses them to kill. The film had a sequel called Ben, which Micheal Jackson the theme tune
@@StanTheMan450 sounds like a worse version of Phenomena with Jennifer Connelly, about the girl who could control insects and uses them to help her expose the crimes of an abuser/killer
yeeeaaah Jim slide that s*** right on in there ☠🤣😭
It seems like the pandemic brought out the worst in Vince. As they say, 'idle hands are the devils playground'. As soon as he wasn't working 18 hours a day, he seemed to need some other kind of outlet....
Yeah, bc he suddenly became a creep in 2020... Get fucking real. It's unbelievable that 15 people like that stupid comment.
39:50 The royal rumble Brian mentions Shane got into an altercation with Brock is the same Royal Rumble that Matt Riddle claimed he was supposedly booked to win at first a few weeks ago, but Brock basically came in and said he should've won it and Vince changed the ending because of Brock. I got a feeling Shane was trying to stand up for talent which was also the rumor at the time that Shane got himself involved in creative when he shouldn't had but they made him look like the bad guy at the time. It makes a lot of sense now.
what do u think shane was trying to do
Rumors are Shane had tried to corral his father’s bad behavior for years and the main reason why he left in the first place was because he was tired of Vince’s BS and wanted nothing to do with him.
oh damn if this is true 😲🤔
@@beerdragon4583 Agreed. I think when we (wrestling fans) were younger, we all thought Vince would pass the WWF down to Shane. We were bermused when Stephanie was being considered over Shane and then eventually it was Steph. I think Vince saw more of himself in Stephanie. Vince and Linda are very similar in nature, Steph is the same. Shane is softer, chill, empathetic and understanding.
If Vince is looking for a lawyer, i heard Alina Habba is free to take the case.
I'm sure that he would enjoy making good use of her although I doubt that it would be her legal expertise
@@stewartmcrae8007 you implying he’ll do to her what he did to Ms Grant (allegedly)?
Tag Teaming spraying sea men..
Maybe he'll also owe 80 million 😂
The only difference is I think Vince might actually be able to pay it. Unlike her other client and Vince's buddy.@@kennysnow7647
The McMahons ending in wwe is insane , Shane last appearance he blew his knee out and doubtful we’ll see him again
Stephanie resigns and doesn’t have a proper send off and something seemed off about it.
Then the Vince scandal happens and the situation is worse then we all thought and now Vince’s image could be tarnished
It’s just insane and no one saw it coming this way
I'm thinking HHH will be out of the company too before this year ends; he's too close to the McMahon's...
Have to believe Rita Chatterton was telling the truth all these years now.
Well of course she was, but she would detail it like he would force himself on her, then get angered when his needs weren’t meant; I took Rita to be saying like he tried to force himself on her but then couldn’t perform or finish or w/e, and goes back to my theory: he’s a predominantly homosexual man who wants to believe he’s hetero, so after a prolonged amount of gay experiences he like would then prey on a female underling but it was typically a hostile act because he’s angered that it’s not working out for him and he can’t get into it - you know what I’m sayin?
This is some straight out of the 1980’s “Dallas” meets “General Hospital” sh!t. If it didn’t involve real people who are undoubtedly going to be very hurt in real life, I’d start popping the corn and settling in for the wild ride.
In the "Thank you Vince" chant, the audience begins it, Stephanie stops it so she can call for it moments later. However, if you look at her face as she is chanting, she looks like she is in pain or discomfort, even when mouthing "I love you dad". It didn't look like love was the emotion she was feeling. Maybe I am seeing more than is there... .anybody else take a look and see the same thing?
When you have a father who is perverse as well as prone to anger, sometimes appeasing is the only way you survive or stay out of (his) harm's way. Stephanie probably has a lot of coping mechanisms like that.
@@pendafen7405 For real. Therapy needed for sure
The fact that the fans actually chanted that after ALL of the horrendous dogshit programming he wrote from 2009-2021 while giving the finger to the people who buy the fucking tickets, but was also exposed as the malicious creep that he always was; is an incredibly damning statement on not only the character but the general intelligence of wrestling fans…
Since this all first leaked in 2022, I suspected it was Stephanie that leaked this to the press.
Jericho somewhere reading this: 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Does Stephanie call Vince “dad” when interacting with him in the office or does she just call him Vince? 🤔
I've got a feeling Stephanie found out about the payments but may not have known the gory details, the NDA's were probably enough to piss her off to the point she fell out with her father, that was probably why they all voted that they didn't want Vince back the first time (he basically bullied his way back in) im hoping they only found out the details later, if not there's no excuse for not reporting it
The smack down thank you Vince chant was in Boston I was at that show the crowd started it before it came on air. Stephanie was talking And they started chanting she then said wait until we get on air there I'll let you know when. And then as soon as we got on air the crowd just started chanting thank you Vince again.
I went back and found the video of Stephanie opening Smackdown after Vince retires. She LITERALLY leads the crowd into a “Thank you Vince” chant. That did not age well.
Even worse, if Stephanie knew about Janel Grant and what was happening at the time AND STILL decided to go out and lead the crowd to do the chant, that’s real scummy.
It’s her dad I’m not saying it’s right but what do you expect most ppl don’t have the courage to hold their relatives accountable in the event they do something awful
It’s important to know that Vince still owns 12% of the company- any support of WWE directly supports him, still.
"eccentric,demented senior citizen"😂😂
4:38 she originally stepped on it, but then came back to it, and seemed like overall it was her goal with that promo to thank him. But, devils advocate, it also felt like a “let’s thank him one last time since he is retired and we will move on”.
i got that feeling too, like how when you try to trick an annoying guest at a party into leaving "hey guys, let's cheer X we had great fun with him but he has to leave im sure he's working early tomorrow!"
That's generous and fair, possibly even entirely accurate. When you have a father who is perverse as well as prone to anger, sometimes appeasing is the only way you survive or stay out of (his) harm's way. Stephanie probably has a lot of coping mechanisms like that.
Wouldn't surprise me. Shane probably never developed those mechanisms, which is why he's been on the outside looking in for so long.
There are more questions than answers, and the only thing we can do is watch it play out.
Oh crap!! The family is fighting Vince. Add in the Royal Rumble that Shane got fired. It never made sense that it was because of a spot. I bet Brock walked out thinking he was screwed and Triple H reassured him that he was safe. Of course that has changed with this recent allegation.
Seems like a damn storyline from the WWF days..
And remember, when Shane went into biz for himself no selling all of Brock's moves and gassing himself out... then was insta-fired. Specifically Brock. And Shane had never acted that way. Surprised that more aren't talking about that. Maybe Shane-O-Mac is the one who secretly leaked all this to the press as revenge on Vince.
I believe Eric Bishoff did the research about Johnny Ace's attorney
It's on Google....it wasn't difficult to find. It took less than a minute to find him and read client reviews.
There are a few good reviews and a few bad reviews.
"One of my favourite Vince McMahon quotes. 'Perception, is reality'" - Jim Cornette
We went all the way down to "NO MEANS YES!"
That fight between shane, vince and brock after royal rumble is kinda wild
Many still joke about this but one thing I think people overlook are the McMahon kids and the effect all this might be having on them. Vince is a grandfather, and one can only imagine what the kids of Stephanie and Shane must think or the kind of attention they get.
Can you imagine his 3 adolescent granddaughter? Or that college age grandson? It's awful.
Yeah massively feel,for these millionaire’s kids when wrestlers and women included have been f#coed over and pimped out…
Yes, school and socialising must be hell for those poor grandkids right now, not to mention holidays and family birthdays or gatherings.
you also gotta think about any scholarships or athletic opportunities that could be potentially on hold or taken just because of the name association@@pendafen7405
Yeah, I don't think Vince is gonna be welcome at Thanksgiving Dinner this year...
I want them to discuss the Ashley massaro case
Paul London has spoken on it a few times
Has anything new been said about that? All I know is what Paul London claimed. And I didn't hear him saying anything when she was alive...
@@areyouokayanniebecauseIamMaybe she was getting paid on a NDA as well
Nobody cares
@@areyouokayanniebecauseIam yes, it bothers me too that Paul kept silent until Ashley died. The most generous excuse I can think of for him is that he felt it wasn't his story to tell, and/or she begged him to keep it secret, and since they broke up he didn't feel he had a right to address/report it publicly or otherwise. Perhaps it would have been different if they'd married or stayed a couple. Still, it's not really good enough, too little too late. And I worry too that he's using her death and ordeal as a way to get attention or relevance, so let's hope that's not the case.
You’re killin me smalls
😂😂😂😂😂😂Comment of the night!!!💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Brian last got the story of Ashley massaro on Cafe De rene from paul london. (Source)
yeah I listened to that piece before I got this one
I think Dunn may have been aware because of his closeness to Vince & because of things that have been said about him in the past regarding how he acted towards & around the Divas.
I think Dunn & Prichard might be more damming than Johnny Ace
Dunn gives me massive creeper vibes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was involved.
I think in the years to come we will see interviews with all kinds of WWE staff saying things like "of course we all knew what Vince was up to, but we couldn't say anything because our careers would have been over". That's what happened with Jimmy Savile. They didn't know exactly what he was doing, but they had a pretty good idea. The thing was that Jimmy Savile had connections up to and including The Royal Family. He was untouchable. Vince has had very close relationships with several former US Presidents and foreign heads of state, now the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia. He has that money and those connections and he's avoided any kind of justice for decades. I doubt he was like this in the 90s because he had competition. As soon as he bought out WCW, the WWE had a monopoly which meant that Vince could do whatever he wanted as he had all the power.
The scary thing is the shit we don't know about.. yet.
I feel bad for the grandkids...imagine hearing about and reading all this shit about your pop pop all over the internet...Jesus 🤦🏾♀️
Lmfao they're probably EMBARRASSED 😂😂😂
I want to see all of Vince's NDAs. I bet theres some seriously incriminating evidence to be found in them. Stuff about Benoit, Warrior, Sherri, Guerrero, Sunny, Sable, Ashley Massaro, Stephanie/Savage, and so many more.
This makes Ric Flair look like a angel
which is not good its still wrong
@@kyleday5026
Yes sir it does
The guy trying to force random women to touch his pecker, nah. It doesn't
Would never have thought it possible and yet here we are!
"Woooings!!!"
Hey so the whole “thank you vince” chant was started by the crowd and she stoped it. While also looking very uncomfortable.
I remember people wondering why Steph was being so cold about her old man. Hoo boy...
@@jesuszamora6949 she knew something we didnt~
But seriously I remember wincing when she had that look. Like something wasnt right lmao
It all makes sense now.
@@arthurkjr ooft. I dont remember that part. I just remember her looking uncomfortable af. But im gonna go back and look on youtube
Just for Jonathan Coachman this is deserved karma. Dude was a good Steward of the company, then ghosted him instead of paying the man what he worked for.
Facts
Coachman sucked. I literally couldn't watch him. Turned the channel every time i saw him (or heard is awful voice)
I don't even like Coach, really, but that story doesn't get enough circulation.
That was pretty messed up on how Vince/WWE treated him at the end of things.. and I'm even more pissed at how they treated Jim Johnston as well..
Also karma for Dr.D !!!
I think Brian assumes too much. The fact that most of this stuff just went unknown for years means Vince kept it mostly close to the chest. My assumption is that only the absolute closest knew the deepest details (ie: Vince, Janel, Johnny Ace, and maybe Bruce or Kevin Dunn) but outside of that I think mostly everyone else probably just thought Vince had a side piece and was vulgar. They probably wanted him out for a number of reasons including his behavior. But I’m certain they weren’t aware of the criminalities of Vince’s actions. They probably just thought he had a mistress working at the office and then paid her hush money not knowing the extent of it. None of these people were powerless and I’m sure they wanted him gone. If anyone that actually didn’t want Vince around knew about this stuff they would’ve used it to get rid of him. I think Jim is far more accurate with his belief that the call was coming from inside the house. Either Shane, Stephanie, or possibly Hunter leaked this to WSJ because it needed to get out. I’d assume they just found out and had no real power to remove Vince because Hunter is far under Vince as head of creative, and Stephanie and Shane no longer work for the company.
I am here for Brian's wild, fan fiction speculation.
Want to see this lawsuit go to court with a jury trial. Odds are Vince loses big.
If it goes to court will Vince wear the neckbrace again.
Executive #1 was quoted as saying "I know exactly who you are"
That sounds like something a woman... specifically a daughter would say to the woman her dad had on the side.
I would like to remind you that there are articles you can look up about Saudi elites doing vile stuff to women for entertainment, and the first WWE Saudi event seems to coincide with Vince's escalating behavior.
I would remind you James Harris, a.k.a. "Kamala the Ugandan Giant" warned his son about how people were made to do "favors" to other males. th-cam.com/video/3wZYvpexGNg/w-d-xo.html ... Also, don't forget the ring boy scandal with Mel Plillips, and don't tell me VKM didn't know about Pat Patterson sucking young males toes, or Terry Garvin, the "kiss my ass club", and the on-screen affairs with Divas as part of a story line (over which the girls had no control, btw) Vince and his gang of pervs have been doing this ish for decades, long before Vince even dreamed of Saudi Arabia.
Vince might move to Saudi and become Sheikh Vince
@@MrJonnyl123 Naah, you have to have real money to move to Saudi A. Vince, even before the victims clean him out, doesn't have the stash to liive there.
@@brianbatie6650he's a billionaire atm. Probably not after lawyer fees etc but...
@@brianbatie6650 he’s friends with a lot of those sheiks out there. He was out there for the Anthony Joshua fight in December hanging round with all of them. Those guys won’t give a damn about any of this stuff and won’t see what the fuss is about
I had a co worker in the early 2000s who swore Vince was gonna get sued and get tossed out of the WWE and I didn't believe him and I apologize for that. Granted, he thought it was because Vince wasn't supposed to have access to Austin's medical records and keep him from wrestling because that's a violation of HIPAA laws, but nonetheless, the writing of Vince's downfall was clearly on the wall way back then.
I worked with an independent film director who has been telling people Vince McMahon raped a woman back in the 1980s, before I was even alive. He calls all pro wrestling promoters, including Jim Cornette here, pieces of shit for letting Vince McMahon get away with it. People have always known Vince Junior was up to something no good. Just he didn't let too much slip, beside things like helping cover up Snuka's crime. A missed NDA payment, of all things, it's like bringing down Don Omar over a broken taillight.
Yosemite Bruce and either Vince Whiplash or Vince Backslide. Here comes the mighty Jim Thor-nette!
I just remember the leak came out not too long after HHH got sick and Vince demoted him. 🤷🏾♀️
Triple H was pissed and word been going around for years that if Hunter doesn't get his way and can't do nothing to change it then he becomes petty about it.. You might be onto something..
You think the cerebral assassin is behind it? I suppose it’s all about the game after all.
@@kenrickeason I'm still think it was Stephanie, with Shane possibly as well. I mean, Vince has been cheating on their mother for fkn decades. And that miiiiight just build "a bit " of resentment. Just sayin'... 🤨🤷🏾♂🤏🏾
I love you guys. The color commentary is just amazing. I am officially subscribed. Keep it up
Teddy Long just had a 12 minute rant recently about how Johny ace is guilty as charged and that he thinks he may have even been the one to influence Vince into this way of life.
Ace wasn't around in the 80s when Vince r@ped Rita Chatterton.
The game was WWE 2k24, he was pulled from the 40th anniversary cover of Wrestlemania.
Lesnar's best move is to make a statement that he and Sable have an open relationship (or that he just flat out cheated on her if she won't cooperate ) and he wasn't aware the victim was coerced into the "relationship".
Please don't give him or his team ideas and let him squirm out of this. Let abusers h ang themselves.
Yeah good point. It looks kind of bad that he’s stayed silent.
Dropping everything but the one thing we really wanna hear about
The Vince story is bigger than the Cody story dude
Nah, we all knew he was scumbag. @@juansanchez209
@@juansanchez209IT'S STILL REAL TO US, DAMMIT!
Jim is definitely happy about Rock vs Roman Reigns,
There's no urgency to release this video everyone is so painfully waiting for lol
Told you all he wouldn't be mad.
@@juansanchez209thank you
With Vince finally out of the picture what are the chances of a wrestlers' union now?
Good idea.
Do UFC fighters have one
Don't think so. Dana White is just another Vince when it comes down to it. About as anti union as can be because it takes money out of his pockets to take care of his talent. Not sure how the TKO ownership changes anything before or now.
I stopped caring about the UFC after Dana White slapped his wife twice and didn't think he should get punishment for it, started that idiotic pro slap league, and pushes every right wing nut job that doesn't deserve it.
Brian finally brought up something we need to hear more about. Ashley Massaro
This is going to be the greatest season of "Dark Side of the Ring" ever!
The H.R. department should have already been gutted. They were either not doing their job and not looking into questionable actions or they are not capable of doing the job in the first place.
HR does not exist for employees. HR exists for employers.
@@johnroscoe2406 Yep. HR is basically a CYA department for corporations.
they were most likely a shame. I mean Vince is the one who wither hired or had them hired 💯🤨🤷🏾♂🤦🏾♂
Vince, Johnny Ace & WWE are the only ones named in the lawsuit. Brock isn’t specifically named, the doctor & the physical therapist aren’t named & I wonder why.
"Did they think this was going away?" Last, they thought he was going to keep paying his NDAs! Especially now that he had more money that ever. They didn't think it was going away, they thought it was never going to come up!
"Adjust your back and give you a shit shampoo" DED
Vince is a sick dude for real
The girl was perfectly fine with all of it as long as she got paid. Get off your pedestal
@@xymoriintus you're both right. Mcmahon was into some weird sh!t but she was down for it too.
Grant is in her early 40's NOW. She was in her late 30's in 2019. No way anyone can tell me she was completely innocent and "a ViCTiM !!!"
And these McMahon texts I keep seeing, I'd love to see those in context. I bet her texts before his 'multiple holes' rant, it wouldn't surprise me if she asked "What are you and your friends going to do to me ?" Hell, one text has her replying to the rough stuff that she should be ready next week.
* I don't know all the facts, but anyone suggesting that this Grant chick wasn't complicit in at least some if not all of this is deeply deluded.
@@vincebrogan2878 yes it was convenient we never saw any of her replies to any of this filthy texts from vince in the lawsuit. I bet you she was encouraging him
Sick bastard
@@vincebrogan2878 If you read the 67 page court document, she clearly was not "down for it".
How the hell is Johnny Ace still married?
People Power!
He's one Dynamic Dude!
Imagine his sex life wonder what the safe word is during sex probably people power
Some women know the kind of guy they’re marrying from the beginning and just live with it, probably one of those situations
@@HkFinn83 yeah there are loads of women married to men who are all out assholes in some cases said women are abused by the men they’re married yet they just put up shut up and live with it. That’s reality sometimes.
The audience stepped on her chant, not the other way around. She was about to lead the audience in a 'Thank you, Vince' chant but they beat her to it. She made some oddly snide comment to the audience letting it be known she wanted to lead them in that chant but they just couldn't wait. I remember it because it was bizarre that she reprimanded the crowd for organically doing what she was about to instruct them to do.
Precisely. I remember a snide comment as well that made me say “wtf?” To myself at the time. Like, what’s with the attitude, princess mcmahon?
@@Avg_Joe_001 yeah, based off that, there is no way that she doesn’t come off as far too self important and condescending to us plebs in the crowd. I wonder if the stress of learning about all of this (on top of the already enormous stress of running NXT and making Vince happy) triggered HHH’s ‘cardiac episode’. Even if it simply appears or seems that way to Stephanie, it’d make sense why THAT would be the final straw for her to where she hasn’t worked in the same company with Vince ever since; viewing it as Vince’s antics have now finally begun to hurt other family and what SHE has built. Like she could pretend it didn’t exist if other people were hurt, but once it’s once of her own being affected-even only tangentially-then mama bear comes out and severs ties with her own father. It’s like we are watching the show Succession written by Frederico Fellini during his ultra-bacchanalia phase.
@@MrEmperorApplesI truly believe that Vince McMahon help cause Triple H's failing heart condition.. Triple H put his heart, blood, sweat and tears into NXT and Vince all of a sudden just comes and take it away.. Stephanie is probably pissed and conflicted about the whole thing.. She loves her father but also loves her husband..
@@kenrickeason Your tinfoil hat is being shipped priority mail, sir.
@@kenrickeasonTriple Hs heart condition had nothing to do with anybody or anything besides his heart. It wasn't caused by stress or whatever else like some heart attacks, his was genetic.
Brock was in the latest Royal Rumble set on SuperCard but can no longer be obtained at all and Brock was removed from the cover art of Collectors Edition of 2k24.
Whether that means he’ll be purged from 2k24 itself as in the game never mind the cover is a different matter. Mind you that’s not gonna stop people doing create a wrestler community creations of Brock.
Brock will likely get booted via post-launch patch.
Bryan needs to chill out with his criticism of Stephanie or hhh we don’t know what they know and also you gotta understand that’s there family it’s a tough subject. They are not villains.
Fortuitous your bringing up the Ashley Massaro incident considering the news breaking today.
If anyone's got time, go back to the March 5th, 2001 episode of Raw. The infamous dog barking segment with Vince and Trish Stratus. The way the segment unfolds is exactly how Janel Grant's lawsuit reads.
Upon learning Trish is an aspiration starlet "willing to do anything", Vince begins to give her special treatment & expensive gifts. Vince admits to a sexual relationship with her and manipulates Trish with power and money. He then forces her to disrobe to prove her loyalty & "how sorry she is". Vince makes her bark like a dog on all fours & forces her to disrobe down to almost nothing.
I know it's wrestling and it was a long time ago. But it's literally how Janel Grant describes her encounters with Vince McMahon.
Considering Vince had full autonomy over this piece of television, this was his idea.
If Vince was comfortable & arrogant enough to put this segment on TV for millions and a crowd of 10,000, imagine what he was doing in his actual personal life.
So true my brother
These videos about McMahon are great😂
Come for the intrigue, stay for the "collapsed into a god damn melted heap"
Only been uploaded for 13 minutes and more viewers than AEW gets on a 2 hr Wednesday night wrestling show
This is the best comment I have seen in a while, I have AEW fans attempting to plead their case to me about their product but I cannot stand it, I had an AEW fan try to tell me Jungle Boy, Darby Allin and Hook were absolute STARS.. Hook isn't horrible but the other two are hilarious to name whatsoever.
But will it beat the little wrestler show on discovery?
Darby definitely has Star potential, despite being so undersized.
But he needs serious guidance and direction.
Which AEW unfortunately does not have enough of…
Jungle Jackoff is a joke, though 👎🏻
@@AdrianBeegoatz I hate being a judgmental prick but that Jungle Jackoff comment is absolute gold brotha! Maybe I need to open my eyes a bit more to Darby by the sounds of things
That's what they get for disrespecting CM Punk. Now no one, except betas who agree with feelings over business and manliness, and people like Jim and Brian who watch sometimes just to make fun of them, watches them anymore.. AEW destroyed itself
Shane didn't get injured at The Royal Rumble. That was WrestleMania 39 last year.
Sounds like Jim is talking about WWE Supercard mobile game, where Brock has been removed as a collectible card, but now hes also off the special edition cover of the new 2k game replaced by Cena.
"adjust your back and give you a shit shampoo" that broke me
Stephen P. New thinks the Executive #1 or whatever, is Kevin Dunn. He also thinks the celebrity doctor is Dr. Oz.
The confusing part for me is $3 million is complete pocket change for Vince, regardless, yet he somehow couldn't afford it.
I don't think it was because Vince couldn't afford it, but more likely that Vince knew that he was being watched. Any payment over $10,000 would notify the Feds and the FBI was already investigating him. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that Vince was texting the woman telling her to wait a little longer.
#1 He didn't become rich by paying people, and that mindset of holding onto every dollar doesn't die easily just because he now has the means.
#2 He probably has a disconnect from reality on what is a lot of money to "regular people", he is probably thinking she should be set for life off the $750k or whatever he already gave her, probably thinks all of his talents were well compensated, etc.
#3 He was largely a billionaire in theory only. The "cashflow" explanation actually has merit, in that the money he actually had at his disposal from dividends, other investments, salaries, etc put him in a very wealthy class, but only in the tens of millions, not even over a hundred. He only recently cashed out about a quarter of his piece of the company for the $750M to hedge his bets against the madness that is about to ensue, hoping the rest of his stake dramatically rises but knowing there is a possibility of it all going to crap knowing what he knows. The biggest withdrawl from his leveraged wealth previous to this was the $60-$80 million range he put into Linda's senate campaigns.
He wasn't even spending his own money on these sechs affairs, he was misappropriating company funds for them. His appearance as a billionaire, aside from personal assets such as homes, were mostly financed by the company as business expenses. $3m of personal cash would still have made a huge dent in his personal "cashflow" for something that has no tangible return on investment.
That being said, not paying the rest after getting caught is a horribly dumb lapse in judgment (in terms of financial risk, of course the actual behavior is the dumbest).
He had rationalized in his mind that this girl had already broken the NDA
3 million dollars from a multi-billionaire? Who is the damn prosecutor? Lionel Huts?!
Never underestimate the stinginess of a rich man.
Maybe that's why Brock had leverage over Vince all these years. I doubt any NDA extends to spousal privilege, I don't think it legally can.
Sidenote after being dragged into multiple Domestic Dispute/Violence situations that didn't involve me, whole building could have known, cops called, and no charges. It's despicable, but I've seen it a lot, and that's without bribes and just cops avoiding paperwork. So yeah, given what was going on in the office, just wait till the journalists go talk to people at the condos.
Bruce Pritchard as Yosemite Sam, Jim Cornette as Thor and Vince Jr as Snidley Whiplash in the artwork 😂
Thanks for always pointing out things for us without eyes 👏
How the hell does Prichard still have a job?
Kissing butt
Who do you think is the source? 👁️ …… 😂
He can talk a good game that’s why, but yeah he’s gonna crack soon enough because of his health problems and probably get fired or resign on his own accord
Jim can say it's not Bruce he was referencing, but it was probably Bruce, Jim isn't stupid enough to say his name publicly in relation to this
Because he's been servicing McMahon since the 80s.
This entire saga sounds like something written by Russo.
If the absolute truth could be told about wwf/wwe from vince getting into power till now. The trickle down happenings from top to bottom. Backstage stuff on screen talent, employees, everything. It would be the most interesting/shocking story ever
“Trying to get romantic with Willard.” Hahahaha. I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time at a statement like this.
Between Chris Jericho and Vince McMahon, Dark Side of the Ring could have another season full of content.
Sounds like Vince didn't realise how well Stephanie can play the game
She learned from the best..
Let's not forget a couple of months back rumours were around triple h and stephanie were divorcing. Should be part of the timeline. Coincidence?
Bruce is done in the wwe and his podcast is over too.
The stuff with Brock is interesting, because at surface level he just has a pee fetish. But the more you look at the report, which is pretty reliable so far, the only thing that kept him from being just as bad as Vince was the pandemic canceling some flights. He wasnt exactly against his end of the trafficking agreement.
Terri runnels said he also made advances at her during the Insurrextion PPV.
Throw this out there
Instead of Stephanie being thought of as the person to be anonymous..maybe it was Nick Khan?
Maybe it was Little Jimmy. Really, no point in saying who it might be when we have no clue
Oh you guys are good...except next time I have a huge itch to come and hang out...gotta get to #5 instead of honorable mentions lol
@44:49 Brian sounded like he's friggin Batman or Daredevil!
Ben Affleck?
Rock was brought in to take the heat and attention off Vince
it worked - everyone pivoted away from Vince and started talking about Rock/Cody