Cut and Unused Content in Xenoblade Chronicles 3
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Fun Fact: Every single Hero (including Na'el) has voice lines for triggering every stage in driver combos (even ones they never usually trigger) AND lines for starting a chain attack as the active party member. No animation for starting, but a voice line that DOES play if you manage to get a hero to be the active member and start a chain attack.
Also, if you play as Na'el through save editing shenanigans, she functions fully as a playable character, other than the fact she can't climb walls or use those ether elevator things. (which are just glorified grind rails.)
Heroes were 100% meant to be playable.
So why weren't they?!?? I don't get it...
i don't think that's guaranteed at all. with regards to the voice lines, those can be given in a big script for the VAs to record. not all the moves and effects are necessarily planned at the time of recording, so making sure they can do all the reactions is important so they can multitask and not waste time bringing VAs back in for recording later. it also allows for error handling for if there were to be a bug and the character happened to use an unexpected reaction (look into xc1 art inheritance as an example), albeit this is a bit less of a priority. so basically, recording a few extra lines for safety is not evidence that heroes were meant to be playable
additionally, they don't build the characters one at a time. they make a general player class, assign bones and animations to the skeleton, and then apply the model and such after. all characters in the game are built this way as a base. the players and the heroes function very similarly in combat as well, the heroes just don't get master arts. they're not built in a different way because there's no point; the AI already exists for the other ouroboros party members, so you just reuse that for the heroes and don't add them to the list to swap to. you can see and can use their arts in chain attacks, so obviously that system needed to be the same there. so it's less that heroes were meant to be playable and moreso that they're built with the same building blocks as the main party, you just can't switch to them
As to why there are unused Break/Topple/Launch/Daze combo lines to every Hero, that's to save time. Most likely, the recording studio does not know what combo moves each Hero has. They probably followed the pattern for the main party members' battle lines instead of cherry picking them. No one at the studio would know Zeon only has Topple, Ashera only has Launch or Alex only has Break.
They probably had all VAs record the lines and then, the coders would use what's needed in the final product. Little context is given to VA's when recording their lines, and studios do not know much of the game's mechanics or specifics. This is true for most video game voice over projects.
If you remember, the Smash Bros. announcer once said he never knew which character will be included in Smash because the script he read out during the recording sessions contained a lot of red-herrings. Read from somewhere (can't remember where) that he was asked to read random names of animals in the recording studio which included "Snake" and that's where they got the voice clip you hear when selecting Snake from the fighter selection screen. Bayonetta's previous VA never knew that her character was fighting angels, so she just used her imagination during the recording process--thinking she was fighting dragons and monsters. That's how secretive voice projects can be.
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That "Blue ring" you see is literally just the highlight of her hair. You can see a similar sort of thing on Noah and Sena. It's not meant to be anything.
Given the two characters who have hero data, my guess is that the flashbacks that feature the characters were meant to be gameplay sequences rather than just flashbacks.
Yeah just like how Torna was
I never even clocked it but that Joran theory about him being playable seems so true because in the artbook they never show an illustration of him with the Moebius armour, instead they have a full body illustration with a green hue by his leg just like main cast each have a colour by their leg in their official drawings!
Also in 8:50 those images are all from the artbook as well. They're concept art, that's why Eunie has a different colour jacket and Noah looks insane lmfao. I think the blue halo around Mio's head is meant to represent where the light should be reflected. If you compare her official illustration and the position where the blue lines are, you will notice that the bit on Mio's head where the light is reflected matches with the blue halos, her's seems to be the only one to have this tho so its a bit weird... It's hard to describe but you should notice it immediately after comparing both images.
Keep up with the great work as always man! I'll be sure to check out the splatoon channel too, that series has so much lore.
Great observations! Can't believe I missed them but they make a lot of sense. I'm going to be making more videos like this for the rest of the series and another one for Splatoon should be coming out within the next day or two!
Definitely think it’s interesting to see things that get left out and why.
I'm going to be making all a lot more, don't worry
Spoilers for Taion's Side Story:
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Nimue has been seen using the Mondo Spell Tags in Taion's Side Story. They really couldn't go back from Taion using her original blade so she couldn't be used as a hero if she was just going to be another Tactician when it's meant to be Taion's class I guess. Edit: The wrist remote thing is also on her right hand, implying she's left-handed. Just interesting side note.
I sad that in Future Redeemed that Mythra Son did not exist.
About the Heroes having combo voice lines, that's because the recording studio did not fully know exactly which of them does a combo. To be safe, the studio most likely had the VAs record lines in more or less the same format as the main cast's battle and field lines (minus the class-specific attacks). It's easy to pick which ones to map for every character rather than have the VAs return to the studio and record the correct lines.
Chain attack start lines for Heroes are heard in the Archsage's gauntlet, when using the Launch all function while your main character is incapacitated. There are other voice lines which appear unused, but I heard them when doing new game+ stuff or Archsage's gauntlet. While the others we don't hear are really disabled in the game's code or not mapped.
I always thought that Nimue's weapon was the mondo, which she passed onto Taion.
11:44 Ethel coat was white in the base game but black for the cut and unused content.
Mio looks sad while the others are smiling.
you play splatoon!? ahhhh x rank splat zones support player here! I wish I had the time to get back into it XD.
I be playing the hell outta Splatoon. I like playing Slayer but I'm probably better at support. I main Luna Neo and Heavy Edit
i think a couple of voice lines weren’t used iirc
Do you know for who exactly?
Would've been funny to see more cut heroes hahaha
It would've been cool to see more hero concepts but it seems like they used almost everything they thought of
13:25 I would wager it would be to test scaling, level geometry and maybe some stuff where you use map skills. If I would ever make a 3d game, that's what I would go do first when making a map
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The left dummy reads "Yoran" and was probably the place holder for Joran
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the right dummy reads "Nami" which is the Japanese name for Nimue
Just to add insult to injury haha ._.
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Wasn’t Nimue’s blade the Mondo? I am pretty sure Taion got it from her.
She taught Taion how to use them but they weren't the Blade she used
@@paragonoftorna2548 Is there any proof of that?
It's in the video. Her and Taion can't both use Mondo so they were going to give her that Saffronia Sword
@@paragonoftorna2548 that just looks like a beta version of nia’s blade. Just because mechanically Taion and Nimue couldn’t have both used Mondo doesn’t mean her blade wasn’t Mondo. In fact, I think that’s probably partly why she wasn’t a party member or a hero; it would have been redundant.
@2yoyoyo1Unplugged exactly. Both her and Taion couldn't use Mondo so they would've given her that Saffronia blade before they decided to scrap her. It's makes sense since her whole motif is Saffronias