We shouldn't put + C for many reasons 1°) it's a definite integral 2°) the inverse laplace transform always it's a one to one operator unique result 3°) we could think this problem like the L^-1[L{ -1/2(L {sin (t)} }'s ]= - t .f (t) then f=1/2 (sen (t)/t) ✔
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SUCH A GREAT EXAMPLE OF AN INVERSE LAPLACE TRANSFORMATION, I hope you can do examples of diferential ecuaions with the special functions like delta of dirac and others, i mean diferential ecuations where you have to use laplace transformation, keep doing those videos, they are so great
you should probably add an argument after the laplace transform like L{f(t)}(s). otherwise one has always to remember which variables you use normally. And also: i am used to the convolution over the whole reals. is it actually the same thing as the integral from 0 to t?
blackpenredpen . Thank you sir , i got this question as well . Use convolution theorem to find the inverse laplace transform of the following. f(s) = 1/s+p)(s+q) Do you have an email ?
The plus C could be allowed, but might depend on the initial conditions. The problem is that how to make laplace of sin(x)+2 ? It doesn't work maybe. Then if inverse laplace should give sin(x)+2, how to? This method seems to work, but requires a lot of calculation. Basically signals can be transferred both on time and signal axes. sin(x) becoming sin(x-t0)+C if transferred in both axes. One could use sin(x)+2×u(t), but that wouldn't be same as sin(x)+2, except for t>=0. If Laplace valid for t>=0 only it seems maybe also reason why u(t) should be used instead. But one could add just 2 if the offset of 2 is certain. The calculation without offset is easier maybe and doing things around the 0 instead of 2 is more practical in this math. Like solving x^2 + 3x + 1 = 0 rather than x^2 + 3x + 3 = 2. You could tune the 2nd degree polynomial equation solving to work with right side =2 rather than =0, but it would get more complicated. Can you calculate inverse laplace transform of s^2/(s^2 + w^2) as an example case also?
@@eseranceese9305 A method I recommend, is to assume it is an arbitrary linear combination of t*sin(3*t), t*cos(3*t), sin(3*t), and cos(3*t). Then take the Laplace transforms of each of component function, using the s-derivative property of Laplace transforms. Set up the linear combination with undetermined coefficients, and use algebra to solve for them. L{cos(3*t)} = s/(s^2 + 9) L{sin(3*t)} = 3/(s^2 + 9) L{t*cos(3*t)} = -d/ds L{cos(3*t)}= (s^2 - 9)/(s^2 + 9)^2 L{t*sin(3*t)} = -d/ds L{sin(3*t)}= 6*s/(s^2 + 9)^2 Let the Laplace transform we're trying to invert, equal the following, and solve for A, B, C, and D: A*s/(s^2 + 9) + 3*B/(s^2 + 9) + C*(s^2 - 9)/(s^2 + 9)^2 + 6*D*s/(s^2 + 9)^2 For 1/(s^2 + 9)^2: 1/(s^2 + 9)^2 = A*s/(s^2 + 9) + 3*B/(s^2 + 9) + C*(s^2 - 9)/(s^2 + 9)^2 + 6*D*s/(s^2 + 9)^2 1 = A*s*(s^2 + 9) + 3*B*(s^2 + 9) + C*(s^2 - 9) + 6*D*s 1 = A*s^3 + 9*A*s + 3*B*s^2 + 27*B + C*s^2 - 9*C + 6*D*s A = 0 3*B + C = 0 27*B - 9*C = 1 D = 0 Solution for B&C: B = 1/54, C=-1/18 Thus: inverse Laplace of 1/(s^2 + 9)^2 = 1/54*sin(3*t) - 1/18*t*cos(3*t)
Just watching this for fun, seems pretty cool. can someone explain the step from sint * cost? why does the argument of sin become "t-v", whereas for cos it becomes simply "v"? and perhaps i should know what is being convoluted in this convolution 😂
Hello Steve, my name is Teo and I come all the way from Greece. I was trying to solve an inverse Laplace and googled for help so I stumbled upon this video.The problem is I can't exactly understand how to use this method on my problem. The problem is inverse Laplace of (s+3)/(s^2 + 4)^2 . I tried the partial fraction method as well but it seems that it can't be divided. I'd love to hear back from you with some help because I'm sure it will take you 5 minutes to solve it. Thank you for your time anyway.
The first thing that comes to mind is separating it. L^-1{s/(s^2 + 4)^2} + 3L^-1{1/(s^2 + 4)^2}. The first part is pretty much the same as in the video, but you only have s^2 + 2^2 in the denominator, so that results in tsin(2t)/4. There's an extra factor of 1/2, because you have to match the 2 on the top for the sine part. For the other fraction you will have to calculate a convolution of two sines: 3(L^-1{1/(s^2 + 4)} * L^-1{1/(s^2 + 4)}) = 3/4(L^-1{2/(s^2 + 2^2)} * L^-1{2/(s^2 + 2^2}) = 3/4(sin(2t) * sin(2t)).
An easier way to evaluate the convolution let I = sin(t)*cos(t) = int 0 to t (sin(t-v)cos(v))dv since convolution is commutative I = int 0 to t (cos(t-v)sin(v))dv add the 2 together 2I = int 0 to t (sin(t-v)cos(v)+cos(t-v)sin(v))dv this becomes an angle sum formula for sin 2I = int 0 to t (sin(t-v+v))dv = int 0 to t (sin(t))dv = vsin(t) from 0 to t = tsin(t) - 0sin(t) = tsin(t) divide both sides by 2 I = tsin(t)/2
An easier way to evaluate it without using convolution. Use the s-derivative property of the Laplace transform, where L{t*f(t)} = -d/ds F(s). Take the s-derivative of sine's Laplace transform: d/ds 1/(s^2 + 1) = -2*s/(s^2 + 1)^2 Therefore: L{t*sin(t)} = 2*s/(s^2 + 1)^2 Multiply both sides by 1/2: 1/2*L{t*sin(t)} = s/(s^2 + 1)^2 Recognize the original transform we're trying to invert in the above. Thus: L-1 {s/(s^2 + 1)^2} = 1/2*t*sin(t)
Partial fractions won't help you here, because you already have the denominator as reduced as possible. Unless you explore complex roots of the denominator.
Broo, I got a big question, how to know, where put, t-v, for expmle, cos(t-v)sin(v), ¿Cómo sabes donde poner (t-v), ?¿ Podría haber sido cos(t-v)sin(v)? Disculpa el inglés, no soy nativo.
It's called the transfer function. The function that relates the output to the input of a linear time independent dynamic system, assuming X(s) represents the Laplace transform of the input, and Y(s) represents the Laplace transform of the output.
@@vasilisa4723 You can take s-derivatives of the Laplace of sine and cosine, and use the s-derivative property to find the Laplace transform of t*sin(t) and t*cos(t). Then set up a linear combination of A*cos(t) + B*sin(t) + C*t*cos(t) + D*t*sin(t). Solve for A, B, C, and D.
For 1/(s^2 + 4), the inverse laplace is 1/2*sin(2*t). For s/(s^2 + 4), the inverse laplace is cos(2*t) Cosine starts at the top, and has s at the top. Sine has the constant on the top.
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We shouldn't put + C for many reasons
1°) it's a definite integral
2°) the inverse laplace transform always it's a one to one operator unique result
3°) we could think this problem like the L^-1[L{ -1/2(L {sin (t)} }'s ]= - t .f (t) then f=1/2 (sen (t)/t) ✔
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SUCH A GREAT EXAMPLE OF AN INVERSE LAPLACE TRANSFORMATION, I hope you can do examples of diferential ecuaions with the special functions like delta of dirac and others, i mean diferential ecuations where you have to use laplace transformation, keep doing those videos, they are so great
cz its a definite integral we don't use c here
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No +C because it is a definite integral.
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If you want to be pedantic, it's there, it's just eaten when you substitute the end points in.
and it’s an inverse laplace not an inverse derivative
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you should probably add an argument after the laplace transform like L{f(t)}(s). otherwise one has always to remember which variables you use normally.
And also: i am used to the convolution over the whole reals. is it actually the same thing as the integral from 0 to t?
Good . Also we can also use the fact that laplace of t f(t) = -d/ds ( F(s))
We can take f(t) = 1/2 sint
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blackpenredpen . Thank you sir , i got this question as well .
Use convolution theorem to find the inverse laplace transform of the following.
f(s) = 1/s+p)(s+q)
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Btw no +C since it is a definite integral 😎
You can also use L[t.f(t)]=-dF(s)/ds, complex differentiation theorem.
Such a great video and no we don't need to put +C because the convolution is a definite integral so the C is not necesary
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The plus C could be allowed, but might depend on the initial conditions. The problem is that how to make laplace of sin(x)+2 ? It doesn't work maybe. Then if inverse laplace should give sin(x)+2, how to?
This method seems to work, but requires a lot of calculation.
Basically signals can be transferred both on time and signal axes.
sin(x) becoming sin(x-t0)+C if transferred in both axes.
One could use sin(x)+2×u(t), but that wouldn't be same as sin(x)+2, except for t>=0. If Laplace valid for t>=0 only it seems maybe also reason why u(t) should be used instead. But one could add just 2 if the offset of 2 is certain.
The calculation without offset is easier maybe and doing things around the 0 instead of 2 is more practical in this math.
Like solving x^2 + 3x + 1 = 0 rather than x^2 + 3x + 3 = 2. You could tune the 2nd degree polynomial equation solving to work with right side =2 rather than =0, but it would get more complicated.
Can you calculate inverse laplace transform of s^2/(s^2 + w^2) as an example case also?
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Complex partial fraction will work
We could also use differentiation
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Thanks! This is very helpful!. Can i ask what if the equation is inverse laplace of [ 1/(s²-9)²]
is it using convolation to solve it?
Uhm also what if the s on the top of it squared? Like s²/(s²+1)²?
@@eseranceese9305 A method I recommend, is to assume it is an arbitrary linear combination of t*sin(3*t), t*cos(3*t), sin(3*t), and cos(3*t). Then take the Laplace transforms of each of component function, using the s-derivative property of Laplace transforms. Set up the linear combination with undetermined coefficients, and use algebra to solve for them.
L{cos(3*t)} = s/(s^2 + 9)
L{sin(3*t)} = 3/(s^2 + 9)
L{t*cos(3*t)} = -d/ds L{cos(3*t)}= (s^2 - 9)/(s^2 + 9)^2
L{t*sin(3*t)} = -d/ds L{sin(3*t)}= 6*s/(s^2 + 9)^2
Let the Laplace transform we're trying to invert, equal the following, and solve for A, B, C, and D:
A*s/(s^2 + 9) + 3*B/(s^2 + 9) + C*(s^2 - 9)/(s^2 + 9)^2 + 6*D*s/(s^2 + 9)^2
For 1/(s^2 + 9)^2:
1/(s^2 + 9)^2 = A*s/(s^2 + 9) + 3*B/(s^2 + 9) + C*(s^2 - 9)/(s^2 + 9)^2 + 6*D*s/(s^2 + 9)^2
1 = A*s*(s^2 + 9) + 3*B*(s^2 + 9) + C*(s^2 - 9) + 6*D*s
1 = A*s^3 + 9*A*s + 3*B*s^2 + 27*B + C*s^2 - 9*C + 6*D*s
A = 0
3*B + C = 0
27*B - 9*C = 1
D = 0
Solution for B&C:
B = 1/54, C=-1/18
Thus:
inverse Laplace of 1/(s^2 + 9)^2 = 1/54*sin(3*t) - 1/18*t*cos(3*t)
just how does the laplace work from 1/(s+1) becomes e^-t. what is the logic behind the conversion.
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Just watching this for fun, seems pretty cool. can someone explain the step from sint * cost? why does the argument of sin become "t-v", whereas for cos it becomes simply "v"? and perhaps i should know what is being convoluted in this convolution 😂
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3:14 , integration by parts will work if you expand sin(t-v) to get two integrals
Do it for the minus sign too without using the convolution theorem please
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It's a definite integral, no +c
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Hello Steve, my name is Teo and I come all the way from Greece.
I was trying to solve an inverse Laplace and googled for help so I stumbled upon this video.The problem is I can't exactly understand how to use this method on my problem. The problem is inverse Laplace of (s+3)/(s^2 + 4)^2 . I tried the partial fraction method as well but it seems that it can't be divided. I'd love to hear back from you with some help because I'm sure it will take you 5 minutes to solve it.
Thank you for your time anyway.
The first thing that comes to mind is separating it. L^-1{s/(s^2 + 4)^2} + 3L^-1{1/(s^2 + 4)^2}. The first part is pretty much the same as in the video, but you only have s^2 + 2^2 in the denominator, so that results in tsin(2t)/4. There's an extra factor of 1/2, because you have to match the 2 on the top for the sine part. For the other fraction you will have to calculate a convolution of two sines: 3(L^-1{1/(s^2 + 4)} * L^-1{1/(s^2 + 4)}) = 3/4(L^-1{2/(s^2 + 2^2)} * L^-1{2/(s^2 + 2^2}) = 3/4(sin(2t) * sin(2t)).
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why the integral of the second sin(t) is -cos(t) , I mean you did not use the same rules for both integrals of sin?
because we are integrating wrt v, so whatever t is just a constant, the first sin involve v so we must use cos
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An easier way to evaluate the convolution
let I = sin(t)*cos(t) = int 0 to t (sin(t-v)cos(v))dv
since convolution is commutative
I = int 0 to t (cos(t-v)sin(v))dv
add the 2 together
2I = int 0 to t (sin(t-v)cos(v)+cos(t-v)sin(v))dv
this becomes an angle sum formula for sin
2I = int 0 to t (sin(t-v+v))dv
= int 0 to t (sin(t))dv
= vsin(t) from 0 to t
= tsin(t) - 0sin(t)
= tsin(t)
divide both sides by 2
I = tsin(t)/2
An easier way to evaluate it without using convolution.
Use the s-derivative property of the Laplace transform, where L{t*f(t)} = -d/ds F(s).
Take the s-derivative of sine's Laplace transform:
d/ds 1/(s^2 + 1) = -2*s/(s^2 + 1)^2
Therefore:
L{t*sin(t)} = 2*s/(s^2 + 1)^2
Multiply both sides by 1/2:
1/2*L{t*sin(t)} = s/(s^2 + 1)^2
Recognize the original transform we're trying to invert in the above. Thus:
L-1 {s/(s^2 + 1)^2} = 1/2*t*sin(t)
I heard sin instead of cos and then I said, «Oh, it's COsine!»
2nd method #dis function is derivative of (S^2+1)^-1,so inverse function would be multipled by t
Can u just explaim why did he use sin t-v instead of sint in 4th step
@@anishachoudhury_ it's just how the convolution is done
Hey could u write down how would u use that method on this is function cuz am kinda lost with it
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Can you plz tell this question by partial fraction method . Is it possible to do this question in this method
Partial fractions won't help you here, because you already have the denominator as reduced as possible. Unless you explore complex roots of the denominator.
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Broo, I got a big question, how to know, where put, t-v, for expmle, cos(t-v)sin(v),
¿Cómo sabes donde poner (t-v), ?¿ Podría haber sido cos(t-v)sin(v)?
Disculpa el inglés, no soy nativo.
It is completely arbitrary which one gets v, and which one gets t-v, since convolution is commutative.
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no +c, cause any function has a unique La place transform and any La place transform belongs to a unique function
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Integrate denominator and take inverse to the result to get F(s)
and the result is - d/ds F(s)
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By the way, what's the Laplace of Y(s)/X(s)?
It's called the transfer function. The function that relates the output to the input of a linear time independent dynamic system, assuming X(s) represents the Laplace transform of the input, and Y(s) represents the Laplace transform of the output.
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How to do this without using convolution thm
inverse laplace transform of 1/(s^2+1)^2 please tell me solution this type of question.
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@@vasilisa4723 You can take s-derivatives of the Laplace of sine and cosine, and use the s-derivative property to find the Laplace transform of t*sin(t) and t*cos(t). Then set up a linear combination of A*cos(t) + B*sin(t) + C*t*cos(t) + D*t*sin(t). Solve for A, B, C, and D.
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One can simply use the derivative of Laplace transform of cos: L'(f)=-L(tf) (i am not talking about Laplace of derivative)
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Instead of 1 its..... s/(s^2+4)... answer will be the same???
For 1/(s^2 + 4), the inverse laplace is 1/2*sin(2*t).
For s/(s^2 + 4), the inverse laplace is cos(2*t)
Cosine starts at the top, and has s at the top. Sine has the constant on the top.
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