I mean, she couldn't even dive into the pit, the literal ONLY time a water breathing mask would've been really useful. Although I'm also just assuming here based off the fact that Hahli was unable to stand the pit's water for too long.
I guess the point is that the Toa Code forbids them from killing, so solely relying on melee weapons is out of the question. With elemental powers you have a lot more non-lethal options like trapping, knocking out and so on. The weapons act more like wands and traversal tools. I wonder how the combat system will look like in the end. Personally I think an ideal combat system for a Bionicle game is simply not possible with current common technology as you'd need an advanced physics engine including things like thermo dynamics, aero dynamics, polygon fragmentation/fusion and fluid dynamics among other things like free-form elemental control that isn't limited to a few "spells" in one package. The result would be a physics system were every fight is more about creativity and real-time puzzle solving/strategizing rather than hit-dodge-block scenarios. Would be one hell of a USP, but also hellish to develop.
@@scottjs5207 Krataa and Krana do not count as sentient life at least in their world and as such it doesn't count as killing in their world, for how stupid that may be. (Rahi are a grey area too apparently because reasons) The bodies of Rahkshi and Bohrok alone are only suits of exo-armour for the above mentioned species. So only tearing that suit apart is like smashing a car. Toa at least do not kill by intention and the counter evidence of Bohrok, Rahkshi and possibly Rahi is due to faulty education by their culture according to our standards. If it was proven in-universe that it was still murder the Toa would collectively face an existencial crysis since they never wanted to commit murder and would subsequentially refrain from killing the species you pointed out (unless they snapped and went serial killer).
I found this out for myself recently so I’ll share here: there’s a Matoran somewhere in Ko-Koro who, if you bring certain materials to him, will build you a radar to point to any masks you’re missing. It’s how I got the last few Kakamas I was missing
Listen, having never seen a single one of your videos before, the rating of Hordika minifig to Kardas Dragon, and this game's rating being Thok is nonsensical, and yet, completely justifiable and agreeable. How do you do it?
Loved the video! You presented some good ideas in there i liked the minimap task tracker idea. Unfortunately we're only doing bug fixes in Legacy, but i could deffinately see that as something we could include in 2.0
We’ve got masks of power legacy, 2.0, canon contests, and Quest for mata nui coming up. I think these represent the beginning of a renaissance for bionicle fan content.
That's the great thing about Bionicle, you can both ironically and unironically love it at the same time. Like sure, we joke about showing a girl your bonkle collection being an instant panty dropper, but is a really a joke if it works?
There is another bionicle game you should look into if you haven't already. Quest of Mata Nui is a fan game that is like a Mona lisa in terms of artwork. They even got the voice actor from the commercials to narrate the game!
A friend of mine used to have the shoes. It's oddly nostalgic to see the shoes mentioned. We grew up with Bionicle and would play that computer game that came in a small disc. We also went To Lego land a few times and would see Bionicle being advertised on windows and a statue. feels like another lifetime since then, I miss those days and that child wonder/excitement of what's next.
Sweet review. Empty combat and absent music are obviously on the to-do list. I'd say the main achievement is amazing exploration full of gasping moments of recognition, cleverly integrated into one big sandbox. Some critique on that: While Ga-Koro is a flawless recreation, I feel that's actually underachieving compared to other villages which are more elaborated, like Po-Koro. I also feel Ga-Koro is poorly integrated into the map - the kaukau waterfall drops into a swimming pool rather than the main bay. I think one of the characters randomly comments "shouldn't this village be further into the bay?" So, the devs are probably aware that it felt a bit tacked on.
The biggest problem with this build is that; if you can freely switch between any Toa at no cost there's literally no point in collecting the Great Masks. This would be fixed by simply locking a playthrough to a certain Toa, separate save files for each one.
Me and my friends had lots of customizing unique characters with the parts we had. We created "Mini Toa" by fitting 5 OG Toa shoulder pieces together (3 up, 2 down,) along with Borak limbs, one of those chest balls to hold the head, and a Borak claw as a chest plate, and Toa Nuva shoulder armor on the Borak arms. There were a lot of other parts you could switch out that could also work. For example, instead of arms, you could combine parts to make wings, and maybe on the chest put Onua's claws or something to be the hands. I still have all my Bionicles stored in a container in my closet. I haven't touched them for over 10 years. I feel if I ever did, it would just make me sad remembering how simple life used to be...
Trying to get this game to work on Steam Deck currently to tide me over for the remake. I think a demo is coming in the next couple months, actually. So excited!
The possibilities of bionicle games are endless you could do a game to cover every story in the bionicle comics and then you could expand in them with expansion stories kinda like halo 3 odst (a hydraxon/lesovikk story comes to mind.). I personally would love to play as a hordika swinging through vizorak webs in metru nui, fight my way through the piraka lair from the ignika/piraka rap commercials,explore the pit while defending marhi nui and fly either as a toa phantoka or mistika into karda nui in a epic flight based combat game (definitely having the vehicles in this especially axalara.). Plus you could add things like archive data on rahi, location's and characters as collectables, masks could be used as is in this game or as a special power up depending on toa, Building your own character would be cool but if they wanted to stick the story I wouldn't mind either, this just gives me so much hope.
I only hope with the new version they’re making they could make some boss battles with the rollers, just something I thought of to improve the fighting
I don’t really know much about Bionicle, so maybe this wouldn’t make sense, but I think it’d be cool if the environments in the game were designed out of virtual Lego pieces rather than using more naturalistic terrain shapes and textures as seen in this video. Basically still model the land and terrain, but within the limitations of what you could actually build in real-life with actual Legos including particle effects and other effects like undulating water. Basically imagine building the entire game with Lego pieces, that’s what I’m thinking about. I’m not sure what gameplay Bionicle fans would want, but I’d just like something that’s about exploration and traversal, like a mixture between SnowRunner, Zelda, and Grow Up with a dash of Death Stranding without the combat.
My first thought is that the official Bionicle animations always had realistic terrain, so the way they did it is more accurate to the source material. Bionicle also used Lego's Technic system, which is sometimes difficult to integrate with normal Lego pieces.
4:57 im not that deep into the lore but is this just a random detail or a real gave that belongs to someone from the story? only character I can think of would be lhikan but then his grave would be in ta-koro, right?
Prior to this channel I've never even heard about bionicles, now I've seen more than 3 videos about it...still don't care about bionicles, but had fun with the videos, quality content for sure.
I was at the Lego store in Chicago when they first introduced the shoes and got a couple masks to interchange on them. Also the flash game was my favorite do you have a video playing it?
I played so many of the beta versions but never finished one. Also in an early build they had a bug where you could ski around like in tribes that was actually pretty cool.
I actualy really enjoyed the "bad lego sets" when I was a kid hahaha however I do wish it was more hack-n-slash like kingdom hearts. Was deffo one of the main vibes the trailer gave
What is your opinion on the "Bionicle: Quest for Mata Nui" Fangame? They even got the commercial voice guy on board!!! (But you possible already know that owo)
You should check out the game Bionicle: Quest for Mata Nui it is alot like this game but it with a far more dramatic feel and tons of content as a bionicle fan it would be a crime to not atleast watch one of the dev videos showing off the game play
“Galis mask of water breathing was always pretty useless, even in the Lore”
I wasn’t prepared for such a Bionicle burn in this decade
I mean, she couldn't even dive into the pit, the literal ONLY time a water breathing mask would've been really useful. Although I'm also just assuming here based off the fact that Hahli was unable to stand the pit's water for too long.
Not even her elemental water powers can save her from a burn like that.
Apply water to the burn... oh, wait...
Nothing but steam… hot air. As they say.
Nothing warms my heart like more Bionicle content
Yeah... Even if it's only fan content, the more love and effort put into it, the better, right?
Oh look it’s the best stop motion animation TH-camr!!
“Bionicles don’t really hit anything with their weapons, like, ever, do they?”
_Web of Shadows has entered the chat_
or the legend reborn
I guess the point is that the Toa Code forbids them from killing, so solely relying on melee weapons is out of the question. With elemental powers you have a lot more non-lethal options like trapping, knocking out and so on. The weapons act more like wands and traversal tools.
I wonder how the combat system will look like in the end. Personally I think an ideal combat system for a Bionicle game is simply not possible with current common technology as you'd need an advanced physics engine including things like thermo dynamics, aero dynamics, polygon fragmentation/fusion and fluid dynamics among other things like free-form elemental control that isn't limited to a few "spells" in one package. The result would be a physics system were every fight is more about creativity and real-time puzzle solving/strategizing rather than hit-dodge-block scenarios.
Would be one hell of a USP, but also hellish to develop.
@@nothinghere8434 Yeah, that CERTAINLY wasn't them killing the Rakshi in Mask of Light. Toa definitely don't kill...
@@scottjs5207 Krataa and Krana do not count as sentient life at least in their world and as such it doesn't count as killing in their world, for how stupid that may be. (Rahi are a grey area too apparently because reasons)
The bodies of Rahkshi and Bohrok alone are only suits of exo-armour for the above mentioned species. So only tearing that suit apart is like smashing a car.
Toa at least do not kill by intention and the counter evidence of Bohrok, Rahkshi and possibly Rahi is due to faulty education by their culture according to our standards. If it was proven in-universe that it was still murder the Toa would collectively face an existencial crysis since they never wanted to commit murder and would subsequentially refrain from killing the species you pointed out (unless they snapped and went serial killer).
Wenua stuck a literal jackhammer into the mouth of a visorak. The toa kill like a mf.
I found this out for myself recently so I’ll share here: there’s a Matoran somewhere in Ko-Koro who, if you bring certain materials to him, will build you a radar to point to any masks you’re missing. It’s how I got the last few Kakamas I was missing
Listen, having never seen a single one of your videos before, the rating of Hordika minifig to Kardas Dragon, and this game's rating being Thok is nonsensical, and yet, completely justifiable and agreeable. How do you do it?
It's a solid Thok, simple as that
@@oboeshoesgames I've heard that opinions are like a**holes, but this is like discovering that you have an a**hole.
Piraka are pretty cool
Loved the video!
You presented some good ideas in there i liked the minimap task tracker idea. Unfortunately we're only doing bug fixes in Legacy, but i could deffinately see that as something we could include in 2.0
6:51 hey man! I'm glad you liked that track! it was pretty fun composing that one and the elevator/pause music you used on the video haha
We’ve got masks of power legacy, 2.0, canon contests, and Quest for mata nui coming up. I think these represent the beginning of a renaissance for bionicle fan content.
dont forget sokodas set in bricklink designer program
#biovival rise up!
1:23
Ah, a Sword & Shield main. Truly a man of culture.
Is Tahu a Greatsword or a Longsword?
... This is a JoCat reference, isn't it.
Til that oboe's love of bionicle might not actually be a joke.
Of course not, Bionicle's freakin' awesome!
That's the great thing about Bionicle, you can both ironically and unironically love it at the same time. Like sure, we joke about showing a girl your bonkle collection being an instant panty dropper, but is a really a joke if it works?
Once more I ask myself: how did I end up here? ....
But anyway back to more bionicles lore
Dont say bionicleS
There is another bionicle game you should look into if you haven't already. Quest of Mata Nui is a fan game that is like a Mona lisa in terms of artwork. They even got the voice actor from the commercials to narrate the game!
A friend of mine used to have the shoes. It's oddly nostalgic to see the shoes mentioned.
We grew up with Bionicle and would play that computer game that came in a small disc. We also went To Lego land a few times and would see Bionicle being advertised on windows and a statue.
feels like another lifetime since then, I miss those days and that child wonder/excitement of what's next.
Sweet review. Empty combat and absent music are obviously on the to-do list. I'd say the main achievement is amazing exploration full of gasping moments of recognition, cleverly integrated into one big sandbox. Some critique on that:
While Ga-Koro is a flawless recreation, I feel that's actually underachieving compared to other villages which are more elaborated, like Po-Koro. I also feel Ga-Koro is poorly integrated into the map - the kaukau waterfall drops into a swimming pool rather than the main bay. I think one of the characters randomly comments "shouldn't this village be further into the bay?" So, the devs are probably aware that it felt a bit tacked on.
The biggest problem with this build is that; if you can freely switch between any Toa at no cost there's literally no point in collecting the Great Masks.
This would be fixed by simply locking a playthrough to a certain Toa, separate save files for each one.
0:06 Hey now, at least you get more parts from them.
Adding cyber quincy to the next version of the bionicle game would probably make finding masks extremely easy because nothing gets past his bow.
Quincy🤮🤮🤮🤮
Me and my friends had lots of customizing unique characters with the parts we had. We created "Mini Toa" by fitting 5 OG Toa shoulder pieces together (3 up, 2 down,) along with Borak limbs, one of those chest balls to hold the head, and a Borak claw as a chest plate, and Toa Nuva shoulder armor on the Borak arms. There were a lot of other parts you could switch out that could also work. For example, instead of arms, you could combine parts to make wings, and maybe on the chest put Onua's claws or something to be the hands. I still have all my Bionicles stored in a container in my closet. I haven't touched them for over 10 years. I feel if I ever did, it would just make me sad remembering how simple life used to be...
i LIKED the mini bionicle sets and i still find the weird little glow-in-the-dark spider things around my house
Trying to get this game to work on Steam Deck currently to tide me over for the remake. I think a demo is coming in the next couple months, actually. So excited!
It's funny how you inadvertently predicted GWP Tahu.
So glad to see Bionicle isn't dead. This franchise is a huge part of my childhood! Love the video
They put put a new Trailers about the actual game coming with a playable demo in early 2024
The possibilities of bionicle games are endless you could do a game to cover every story in the bionicle comics and then you could expand in them with expansion stories kinda like halo 3 odst (a hydraxon/lesovikk story comes to mind.). I personally would love to play as a hordika swinging through vizorak webs in metru nui, fight my way through the piraka lair from the ignika/piraka rap commercials,explore the pit while defending marhi nui and fly either as a toa phantoka or mistika into karda nui in a epic flight based combat game (definitely having the vehicles in this especially axalara.). Plus you could add things like archive data on rahi, location's and characters as collectables, masks could be used as is in this game or as a special power up depending on toa, Building your own character would be cool but if they wanted to stick the story I wouldn't mind either, this just gives me so much hope.
Possibilities are endless indeed, but fans for some reason tend to make games focused only on Mata Nui island and first year of story.
the chad hordika minifig stride
Ga Koro is absolutely seared into my brain as a significant childhood memory, how have I not found this sooner
I love your work Mr. Shoes
Well Thock is real solid
I loved this video, but could you please elaborate on the findal rating? I don't know if Thok is a good rating or not xD
100% Solo, 0% Social
@@oboeshoesgames i.e. yeah it's a pretty cool game
@@oboeshoesgames Pretty much like Lewa, Kopaka or any other Piraka, I guess hahaha
Certified Thock moment
I only hope with the new version they’re making they could make some boss battles with the rollers, just something I thought of to improve the fighting
I have played this game for at least 10 or 14 hours. Its a really solid proof of concept and its good fanservice
7:58 I don't know why, but this moment broke me
Well I'm really happy they got back on track with the new trailer for Bionicle day, I hope you get to cover the game when the demo is out.
I like this game alot, I hope they add abilities to some of the masks that don't have any in the next update
2 years later they did a funny small set
Pls pls the UI. I know we wanna be nostalgic about the early 2000s, but the one thing we don't need from that era is their menus and fonts
I don't understand the scale one bit, but it absolutely made me laugh out loud
There was a Bionicle game on the PS2 I loved playing that was a lot of fun
I had absolutely no idea what was going on for this entire video, but it was very pleasant and entertaining!
Im so glad there are other people that love bionicle as much as me
I thought the little piraka bridge set was pretty cool :(
“Sealed toa canisters are prohibitively expensive.” Looks up at his toa canisters
You have unlocked memory's I didn't remember existed.
My favourite was always Onua. His mask is dope and his name is Onua. That’s an awesome name.
This video has me on Ebay trying to purchase my childhood back.
I wish school taught me how to convert "Thok/Kardas Dragon" in decimal
its great that the gift with purchase tahu and takua exists now
Your mind is a beautiful thing
it made me happy how happy shoe gamer sounded in this one!
I don’t really know much about Bionicle, so maybe this wouldn’t make sense, but I think it’d be cool if the environments in the game were designed out of virtual Lego pieces rather than using more naturalistic terrain shapes and textures as seen in this video.
Basically still model the land and terrain, but within the limitations of what you could actually build in real-life with actual Legos including particle effects and other effects like undulating water. Basically imagine building the entire game with Lego pieces, that’s what I’m thinking about.
I’m not sure what gameplay Bionicle fans would want, but I’d just like something that’s about exploration and traversal, like a mixture between SnowRunner, Zelda, and Grow Up with a dash of Death Stranding without the combat.
My first thought is that the official Bionicle animations always had realistic terrain, so the way they did it is more accurate to the source material.
Bionicle also used Lego's Technic system, which is sometimes difficult to integrate with normal Lego pieces.
Yoo didn't realize you were into Bionicle, what a fucking legend
4:57 im not that deep into the lore but is this just a random detail or a real gave that belongs to someone from the story? only character I can think of would be lhikan but then his grave would be in ta-koro, right?
Prior to this channel I've never even heard about bionicles, now I've seen more than 3 videos about it...still don't care about bionicles, but had fun with the videos, quality content for sure.
3:03 TBH I used hau quite often to not take damage while falling or to survive the last part
Thok is the best rating I could've ever expected
I was at the Lego store in Chicago when they first introduced the shoes and got a couple masks to interchange on them. Also the flash game was my favorite do you have a video playing it?
I played so many of the beta versions but never finished one. Also in an early build they had a bug where you could ski around like in tribes that was actually pretty cool.
I mean
In defense of Bionicle Heroes
The Inika did have laser weapons
BH did that right at least
I like the detail of the weapons they're using are actually the matas instead
oh man I hope they do this for the Toa Ignika and Toa Mahri
Have you seen the upcoming fan game Bionicle: Quest for Mata Nui?? It looks amazing
It’s Bionicle games like these I would have loved as a kid.
0:28 that edit sent me
man i miss bionicles im not even a big bionicle fan i remember watching their animations countless times when i was a kid maybe i should revisit them
I think this game is like a small taste of what is to come with the remake
wow this looks great. Glad to have found thsi channel too
Are you gonna make a video about quest for mata nui when it releases?
He definitely will
That fucking typewriter will be the Bane of us.
As far as I know, other game called "Quest for Mata Nui" was being developed. Does anybody know anything else?
5:48 hey that’s my birthday!
Mmmm that music reminds me of early 3d RPGs and MMOs
Does anyone else remember those browser games they had? those were pretty awesome and free
I like matoran. Just normal little dudes living their life ya know.
will you be playing the quest for Mata nui once it comes out?
Man, we need this!
Im glade to see bionicle isnt truely dead😊
Where does Thok fall on your rating scale? Are we talking better or worse than Zaktan?
I actualy really enjoyed the "bad lego sets" when I was a kid hahaha however I do wish it was more hack-n-slash like kingdom hearts. Was deffo one of the main vibes the trailer gave
Exquisite taste = Kopaka
Nice.
I love your Bionicle content
OMFG I LOVE BIONICLE THIS GAME I CANT WAIT TO PLAY IT
This was a great game!
It’s a crime what lego did to bionicle. Even kids today think they are cool it’s not just a adult nostalgia market
A new Hero factory video
great review! I just wish I had a PC that could run it!
I can't tell what your rating equates to and honestly I think it's best that way
I hope the final game comes out soon ^^
Gonna review Bionicle: Quest for Mata Nui if it ever comes out?
What is your opinion on the "Bionicle: Quest for Mata Nui" Fangame? They even got the commercial voice guy on board!!! (But you possible already know that owo)
Bionicle Bionicle Bionicle JAM!
this isn't that bad but for me this is 👌 perfect I love it and i love the lore
and thok Prity good
im just waiting really hard for it to be on steam.
"Lhikan is dead because of you, dude."
Love this video! Miss Bionicle!
Oh dang I’m in love again
Lhikan's death was not Vakama's fault, you take that back 😆
Poor Vakama. He didnt deserve that rip at the start lol
1:49 IT'S NOT HIS FAULT! LEAVE HIM ALONE!
Truly, the Dark Souls of bionicle
You should check out the game Bionicle: Quest for Mata Nui it is alot like this game but it with a far more dramatic feel and tons of content as a bionicle fan it would be a crime to not atleast watch one of the dev videos showing off the game play