I bought these recently off the back of Vince's recommendation and I honestly don't think I'll ever use another brand of acrylic metals. They really are that good. Thanks for the review, Vince!
That is some sick looking metal paint! I watched your video of the different colors for shading & highlighting on a cannon barrel and was really impressed with these paints, you're not kidding. Will be picking them up when I order my airbrush setup in a couple weeks.
I've been slowly building my collection of these paints, my latest is the copper - wow, it really is sorcery. The whole line is amazing - thanks for the recommendation!
Hi there! I have some Vallejo Metal Color paints that I have been using for two years now, love them. Thank you so much for sharing them with me, results have been so satisfying. I was wondering if you have a product you can suggest that I can use to thin down these paints? One of my pots (the copper one) has gotten rather thick, and I want to get it back to where it was. If you have any ideas, I am all ears. Cheers!
You may want to just try a heavy agitator and a vortex mixer or something. The mix on them is very specific so I am not sure of an additive that will work.
Started with Gunmetal and Duralinium in this range to get Titanicus-scale titans' substructure done quickly. It went on so beautifully that I shed a tear for all the time I spent brushing on leadbelcher beforehand. I still love titans, and all that armour trim means I'll be upping my masking game, and airbrushing on copper and gold to get it done. what a range.
I don't have the Vallejo Metals (on order), but I believe you can thin them and then mix them with other acrylic colors to get some tonal variation. Might be worth experimenting with. Dan
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I've seen way too many for what I need, but you make them very watchable. Hopefully you can help with the following question. Would you think this Vallejo Metal Color would work as a retouch paint for gold decals of sewing machines? Usually these surfaces are layered with japanning, gold decals or 'gold' paint (I have no idea what they used in the 1880's tot 1900's as gold paint) and than shellac as a protective coat. When details are faded, the shellac (which dissolves easily in alcohol) is worn away, and often with chunks of black japanning as well. I think I can figure out how to fix the black japanning (either enamal paint or nail polish), but the gold decal/paint retouching is bit tougher. So perhaps your expertise on paint and surface can point me in a direction.
As you mentioned the gold as a greenish tone. Over the time as you find a good recipe to get a more yellow-red gold. I have tried mixing vallejo yellow and red ink. This is one of the very few weakness in the range there are tons of aluminum colors which end up quite samey but a lack of more diverse colors.
Thank you very much for your continuous videos, really helpfull. Just one question: if I already have Darkstar molten metals Cooper and Gold, do you think it's a good idea to buy these too, or not to do It and going right to the silvers range? Again, thank you very much.
Well, my strong feeling is the steel is the real strong point and would definitely be my top thing to acquire. I love the gold and copper, but if you are happy enough with Dark Star, then keep those for now, try the Steel, and if you love them like most who use them do, then go for the gold/copper.
yeah... I bought the gold from the metal color line. I placed it besides the test painted model with GW balthasar and retributor armor and game color polished gold and glorious gold, and it looks pretty green.
I came here to say, I just got the Vallejo Gold and it wasn't the gold i was expecting at all... it's actually a shade I don't like at all because of its green dirty look
@@LoftOfTheUniverse Yes, Vallejo Metal Color gold (on it's own) isn't very useful, it's a cold, green gold, but mixed 3-1 Gold/Copper, it's a wonderful rich tone (as the copper is very red and Red + Green make brown).
@@VinceVenturella can I get the iconic stormcast eternal gold out of this gold? That big guy you painted looked kinda champagne car color rather than that bright gold color
I am really thinking of getting the copper, but how close is it to Citadel's Screaming Bell? That's what I have been using on my Necron army and don't want it to be too different.
Brilliant (literally)! Looks like I'll invest in the gold, copper, silver steel to make my own range; looks quite simple to get an Old Gold-like result. As much as I adore the results of liquid gold, on a large army (and on large models...) all of the little quirks of the paint become very grating.
+Marc Olivier I love the Old Gold, it's just the richest tone. I haven't quite been able to duplicate it yet, but as soon as I can, I would put the Liquid Gold away. That being said, the metal color line has been the best investment I have made in a long tie, so smooth and easy to use.
+Vince Venturella Decided to buy a bottle each of Copper, Silver and Gold even though I have no equipment on hand right now. A 4-1-1 mix of Gold Silver Copper makes a pretty beautiful gold shade, and upping the Gold to 5 or 6 gets close to Old Gold (if I remember the shade). This mix is definitely going to be my main gold, seeing as I can airbrush it.
Hi Vince - You've made me a VMC convert and I really try to avoid using any other metallics if I can. I'm trying to mix up a brighter brass color (like runelord brass) for some of the new Necrons (using your 3:1:1 and adding more Pale Burnt Metal), but as I go brighter it feels like it's getting too desaturated. Should I look at mixing in some glossy inks to get where I want to go? Side question - Have you had any issues with bad pots of Pale Burnt Metal? My first two pots have totally seized up on me.
Yeah, I think sometimes you have to work in some brown inks to get the right tone. Brass is a tough color. As to pale burnt metal, I've never had an issue, but it's always possible to have some bad paints in any range.
I picked up thease and 3 other metals a month ago and really enjoy but they aren’t great for dry brushing also are they exactly like model air metals or there own thing I haven’t used the modelair metals
Vince did you ever review Vallejo Metal Colro varnish anywhere? Wondering if it does anything different than Vallejo Mett/satin/Gloss that makes it worth buying?
Hey, I am starting to get into the hobby again and I am looking for a good metallic color right now. Would you still recommend this range? Thanks for the answer in advance!
Absolutely, this is a great metal paint, but you need both to mix. I would also recommend the recent Green Stuff World metal pigment if you are ready for a challenge.
Hi, have you added airbrush thinner or flow improver in airbrushing gold or copper? I have tried to use Vallejo Copper without thinner or flow improver but it was not fluid enough for my 0.3mm airbrush and the pigment cannot be sprayed. Thanks.
I mix gold and copper (3-1 ratio) and then shade with some chesnut ink with maybe a little purple. Silver as the highlight, You can see it in process here - th-cam.com/video/aX25IsoNaLM/w-d-xo.html
Brass is a tough color, my honest answer is I don't have any Brass I really love. You can make a decent brass with Vallejo Metal Color silver and some brown/orange ink over it or mixed in.
+nicimi Tough question. Ease of use, there isn't really a comparison, they are far more easy as acrylics. I find I still use the Liquid Gold mainly because I love the tone of the Old Gold which I just have never really been able to replicate. If there isn't a specific tone I need, I go for these every time.
When I am cleaning it in the sonic cleaner, I use a simple degreaser that is safe for rubber. I also use Jewelry cleaner. When cleaning in between, I use imedea airbrush cleaner and water.
it seems Vallejo metal color is the king of metalics. I wonder if there is any paints that are not from this line that do any of the metals better. so far from my purchases it seems the answer is no
Yep, I have come back to this a few times (if you look through the rest of the playlist, I touch on this several times as it's an area of focus for me). Here is a more recent tutorial on it. - th-cam.com/video/aX25IsoNaLM/w-d-xo.html&list=PLcdsbwBroEmD2fNEJhcju6PD7qRmoo04Y&index=83
I bought these recently off the back of Vince's recommendation and I honestly don't think I'll ever use another brand of acrylic metals. They really are that good. Thanks for the review, Vince!
Yeah, they are amazing. :)
That is some sick looking metal paint! I watched your video of the different colors for shading & highlighting on a cannon barrel and was really impressed with these paints, you're not kidding. Will be picking them up when I order my airbrush setup in a couple weeks.
Yeah, they are wonderful and I still use them so often to this day. this is one review I 100% stand behind.
I've been slowly building my collection of these paints, my latest is the copper - wow, it really is sorcery. The whole line is amazing - thanks for the recommendation!
Awesome, I love them for sure and use them all the time, glad you are enjoying.
Hi there! I have some Vallejo Metal Color paints that I have been using for two years now, love them. Thank you so much for sharing them with me, results have been so satisfying. I was wondering if you have a product you can suggest that I can use to thin down these paints? One of my pots (the copper one) has gotten rather thick, and I want to get it back to where it was. If you have any ideas, I am all ears. Cheers!
You may want to just try a heavy agitator and a vortex mixer or something. The mix on them is very specific so I am not sure of an additive that will work.
Started with Gunmetal and Duralinium in this range to get Titanicus-scale titans' substructure done quickly. It went on so beautifully that I shed a tear for all the time I spent brushing on leadbelcher beforehand. I still love titans, and all that armour trim means I'll be upping my masking game, and airbrushing on copper and gold to get it done. what a range.
Absolutely!
I don't have the Vallejo Metals (on order), but I believe you can thin them and then mix them with other acrylic colors to get some tonal variation. Might be worth experimenting with. Dan
Yep, I have played with them some and you can push it around. You can also mix in the Metal Color Silver to brighten up the gold.
this copper and gold are exactly what i needed thx
Awesome, happy to help. :)
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I've seen way too many for what I need, but you make them very watchable.
Hopefully you can help with the following question. Would you think this Vallejo Metal Color would work as a retouch paint for gold decals of sewing machines? Usually these surfaces are layered with japanning, gold decals or 'gold' paint (I have no idea what they used in the 1880's tot 1900's as gold paint) and than shellac as a protective coat. When details are faded, the shellac (which dissolves easily in alcohol) is worn away, and often with chunks of black japanning as well. I think I can figure out how to fix the black japanning (either enamal paint or nail polish), but the gold decal/paint retouching is bit tougher. So perhaps your expertise on paint and surface can point me in a direction.
I would think it would work, it's pretty tough and as long as the paint has something to adhere to, it should work.
As you mentioned the gold as a greenish tone. Over the time as you find a good recipe to get a more yellow-red gold. I have tried mixing vallejo yellow and red ink. This is one of the very few weakness in the range there are tons of aluminum colors which end up quite samey but a lack of more diverse colors.
Yep, my general mix is to put a drop or two of copper into a larger mix of gold to warm it up.
@@VinceVenturella Thanks a lot, i'll give it a try very soon.
Thank you very much for your continuous videos, really helpfull.
Just one question: if I already have Darkstar molten metals Cooper and Gold, do you think it's a good idea to buy these too, or not to do It and going right to the silvers range?
Again, thank you very much.
Well, my strong feeling is the steel is the real strong point and would definitely be my top thing to acquire. I love the gold and copper, but if you are happy enough with Dark Star, then keep those for now, try the Steel, and if you love them like most who use them do, then go for the gold/copper.
2019 still hoping for a vallejo metal color gold thats more on the warm yellow side ,instead of the greenish one we have
Yes, it would be nice to have something out of the pot, though I will say a 3-1 of Gold-Copper will make something wonderfully warm.
yeah... I bought the gold from the metal color line. I placed it besides the test painted model with GW balthasar and retributor armor and game color polished gold and glorious gold, and it looks pretty green.
I came here to say, I just got the Vallejo Gold and it wasn't the gold i was expecting at all... it's actually a shade I don't like at all because of its green dirty look
@@LoftOfTheUniverse Yes, Vallejo Metal Color gold (on it's own) isn't very useful, it's a cold, green gold, but mixed 3-1 Gold/Copper, it's a wonderful rich tone (as the copper is very red and Red + Green make brown).
@@VinceVenturella can I get the iconic stormcast eternal gold out of this gold? That big guy you painted looked kinda champagne car color rather than that bright gold color
Nice review dude
+IDICBeer Thank you sir, much appreciated as always.
Excellent review mate, I definitely will have to check out this range :)
+Mikey's Miscasts I really can't recommend it enough, it's fantastic.
I am really thinking of getting the copper, but how close is it to Citadel's Screaming Bell? That's what I have been using on my Necron army and don't want it to be too different.
It's a little more red, but not much. I think overall it's pretty close, but a little touch of the gold would probably bring it in line.
@@VinceVenturella Thank you! I'm also sure that using small amounts of the gold to highlight it will also work out well
Brilliant (literally)!
Looks like I'll invest in the gold, copper, silver steel to make my own range; looks quite simple to get an Old Gold-like result. As much as I adore the results of liquid gold, on a large army (and on large models...) all of the little quirks of the paint become very grating.
+Marc Olivier I love the Old Gold, it's just the richest tone. I haven't quite been able to duplicate it yet, but as soon as I can, I would put the Liquid Gold away. That being said, the metal color line has been the best investment I have made in a long tie, so smooth and easy to use.
+Vince Venturella Decided to buy a bottle each of Copper, Silver and Gold even though I have no equipment on hand right now. A 4-1-1 mix of Gold Silver Copper makes a pretty beautiful gold shade, and upping the Gold to 5 or 6 gets close to Old Gold (if I remember the shade). This mix is definitely going to be my main gold, seeing as I can airbrush it.
+Marc Olivier Awesome, I will have to check that ratio and see how it looks.
Hi Vince - You've made me a VMC convert and I really try to avoid using any other metallics if I can. I'm trying to mix up a brighter brass color (like runelord brass) for some of the new Necrons (using your 3:1:1 and adding more Pale Burnt Metal), but as I go brighter it feels like it's getting too desaturated. Should I look at mixing in some glossy inks to get where I want to go? Side question - Have you had any issues with bad pots of Pale Burnt Metal? My first two pots have totally seized up on me.
Yeah, I think sometimes you have to work in some brown inks to get the right tone. Brass is a tough color. As to pale burnt metal, I've never had an issue, but it's always possible to have some bad paints in any range.
I picked up thease and 3 other metals a month ago and really enjoy but they aren’t great for dry brushing
also are they exactly like model air metals or there own thing I haven’t used the modelair metals
How would that copper work over a red undercoat? I often find that most copper paints have a distinct lack or redness to them.
Shouldn't really change that much, the paints are pretty highly opaque. But it coudl add a little warmth.
Great review! What ratio do you use thinner with these (if any) through the airbrush?
About 1-1 or slightly less thinner, that is my minimum for most of my work. It's always easier to put on two thin layers than clog your airbrush. :)
Would you recommend a brown/red brown basecoat before applying? Or would that make it too redish?
Not necessary, it's completely opaque, you can put it over anything.
Vince did you ever review Vallejo Metal Colro varnish anywhere? Wondering if it does anything different than Vallejo Mett/satin/Gloss that makes it worth buying?
I did not, I will say it's not essential, but I think it's quite useful as a heavy duty gloss varnish.
@@VinceVenturella ok thanks
Hey, I am starting to get into the hobby again and I am looking for a good metallic color right now. Would you still recommend this range? Thanks for the answer in advance!
Absolutely, this is a great metal paint, but you need both to mix. I would also recommend the recent Green Stuff World metal pigment if you are ready for a challenge.
Hi, have you added airbrush thinner or flow improver in airbrushing gold or copper? I have tried to use Vallejo Copper without thinner or flow improver but it was not fluid enough for my 0.3mm airbrush and the pigment cannot be sprayed. Thanks.
Hi vince, how would you paint a gold armor with this? Vallejo metal color gold as a base? What would you use for shadows and highlights?
Thanks!!!
I mix gold and copper (3-1 ratio) and then shade with some chesnut ink with maybe a little purple. Silver as the highlight, You can see it in process here - th-cam.com/video/aX25IsoNaLM/w-d-xo.html
Can you recommend a god Brush on Brass Metalic Acrylic
Brass is a tough color, my honest answer is I don't have any Brass I really love. You can make a decent brass with Vallejo Metal Color silver and some brown/orange ink over it or mixed in.
Vince we need a video of all new line of Vallejo Metal Colours.. I am very Courious because there are many of them... Please :D
As soon as I can get my hands on them, I will be testing them.
@@VinceVenturella just got the new formula yesterday. NOT impressed with the gold. At all.
@@mezmerizer0266 Not a great sign, do you have more info on comparison, also, where did you get it from?
how do they fair against the liquid gold?
+nicimi Tough question. Ease of use, there isn't really a comparison, they are far more easy as acrylics. I find I still use the Liquid Gold mainly because I love the tone of the Old Gold which I just have never really been able to replicate. If there isn't a specific tone I need, I go for these every time.
Apparently 4 drops of Vallejo Metal Color Gold with 1 drop of Vallejo Model Color Woodgrain 828 (182) could be a cadidate as I see it.
I think that would be a nice color for sure.
@@VinceVenturella But does it read as Brass to you?
great review, Thanks :)
Thank you, glad it was helpful.
Vince what do you soak your airbrush in?
When I am cleaning it in the sonic cleaner, I use a simple degreaser that is safe for rubber. I also use Jewelry cleaner. When cleaning in between, I use imedea airbrush cleaner and water.
@@VinceVenturella you mentioned you soak it overnight, which product do you soak it in?
it seems Vallejo metal color is the king of metalics. I wonder if there is any paints that are not from this line that do any of the metals better. so far from my purchases it seems the answer is no
I have some additional explorations coming soon, but this is really the best around (in acrylics).
@@VinceVenturella Im curious in non acyrlics also. trying new mediums is the fun part of this hobby
How can I mix them to make Brass?
Brass is a tough color to replicate, but honestly, the mix of some brown ink with mostly gold and a touch of the copper is the way to go.
@@VinceVenturella Ok.
Have you tried various inks to tint the gold?
Yep, I have come back to this a few times (if you look through the rest of the playlist, I touch on this several times as it's an area of focus for me). Here is a more recent tutorial on it. - th-cam.com/video/aX25IsoNaLM/w-d-xo.html&list=PLcdsbwBroEmD2fNEJhcju6PD7qRmoo04Y&index=83
Excellent! Thanks, I hadn't gotten to that one yet.