The New Portuguese vs Classic Byzantines
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ธ.ค. 2022
- Recently the Portuguese received some slight changes and I'm excited to see how things will play out with them going forward! Here we have DauT testing the Portuguese dark age amongst other things, while Nicov uses the known powerhouse Byzantines!
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The fact that the 12 days to christmas didnt include ranges in the neutral island is insane
"3 awkward ranges"
@@ericofire å
@@ericofire å
1 converted feitoria
26:18 - A hunter, a forager, a monk and 17 xbows walk into town. It rocks!
So -- berry bushes have 125 food each, and if the trickle of wood is 33%, that means that for every 3 food collected, you get 1 wood, or 41-ish per bush. With 6 bushes, that means you're collecting a total of 250 wood.
Essentially, when you're thinking about build orders, you can just figure that by the time you're done with berries, you'll have 250 more wood than other civs.
the other way to see it is 3 villagers in berries means it's like you have an additional villager chopping wood.
@@gildeddrake1479 Portuguese will be banned on maps with lots of berries.
What I got from this is T90 never realized Byzantines have a different architecture since the release of DE.
I busted out laughing when I read "Kalahnicov". That one's really good.
I love when players like Daut just go all in just to have fun.
The berries sparkle in 4k. I never knew.
Number three has to be archery ranges ...
12 days of aoemas
12 knights raiding
11 villagers remaining
10 houses burning
9 farms seeding
8 fish‘n’chips
7 monks chanting
6 stables queueing
5 golden relics
4 town centres
3 ranges on neutral island
2 trebuchets
And one converted feitoria
I played against Italians yesterday, and for some reason I thought he was Celts, the architechture didn't clue me in, I only started being confused when I saw Genoese crossbowmen.
This daut person is one heck of a low elo legend!
We need an official aoe2 12 days of Christmas song vid!!!! What a crack up
Monks don’t chant? What you smoking T90. It’s all they do!
"seven houses burning" lmfao
Merry Christmas! :)
Possible Idea on why the Devs aren't nerfing the top tier civs too hard: they might want to go more into buffing every lower perfoming civ with a more unique bonus, to make civs overall more equal but distinctive, as nerfing a civ will mostly either make them quite one-dimensional or take away from their identity (not always, but quite easily possible).
On the twelfth day of ranked games my opponent sent to me
12 knights a raiding
11 vills repairing
10 farms remaining
9 miners dropping
8 monkas chanting
7 houses burning
6 ranges queuing
5 golden relics!
4 fish'n'chips
3 town centers
2 trebuchets
And a drush then a missionary
Youre not alone T90, merry xmas!
That jingle was fantastic! :D
Nearly 1 min in and another T90 remix soundtrack sample is given to us, can you believe it christmas is truely coming.
Started to watch this on fb with 720p... Then I said to myself: Please T90, load it up on YT, and that you did. Thanks.
You had the song spot on, good job XD
1:03 should have been 3 archery ranges on an island
New setup is working great imo :)
Just wondering if a higher bitrate is required for videos now they are 4k. Kinda looks more blurry actually although of course you can zoom out further on the 4k.
Yessss 4k/60fps! This is is a huge step up.
Would Daut have been better off walling up for fast castle and hitting castle earlier because of (new) woo bonus from berries? Or if going on the offensive go archer/scout? Archers snip the spearmen and scouts clear up skirms?
lmao dude the coincidence. Someone rang my bell and almost instantly you said "Oh shoot i got scared i heard a noise"
You get the thumbs up for the singing. Inspiring.
Hey, T90, I'd like to suggest an idea for a tournament:
Reverse civ piking - Each player choses the civs for the other player.
A monk, a forager, and a farmer walk into a bar.
They realised in heaven that they were rocks.
How is there a hunter 42 minutes into the game 11
Nice, I haven't seen a Daut game in a while
*T90!!!*
Would Portugese Gold discount be the perfect counter to Byz Trash bonus?
A hunter, a forager, 3 monks and some crossbows walk into a bunch of fiery rocks. The end.
We need a remix of T90's take of 12days of christmas, 11.
2 questions:
- do all AoE II versions (HD/DE) get auto-nerfed with all these (damn) changes to the civs, or does one of them stay original?
- (If I remember correctly) one of the improvements to DE was the auto-dropoff of resources before the vill starts something new; has this been changed again? -cause sure doesnt happen with me!
--thanks
it drops resources if you build a droppable building (doesn't have to be same resource for example building mill with lumberjacks drops wood and building farm with stone miners or even docks works)
@@MegaFabulous I think another change is that when you click another resource it doesn't drop until you actually start collecting. So if you misclick it's fine. I seem to remember that being different before de.
@@neildutoit5177 i think that's true as well
Well, I tried watching this vid in 4k on my laptop and it went to buffertown, same as my phone, but the graphics looked phenomenal
Are you on spotify??
yeah the berry/wood bonus is basically almost impossible to notice in practice, I was watching the resources tick, berry collection rate is just very slow so I dont think it will elevate the portuguese much. Sick gameplay from the Lord as always though :)
was playing around with it a bit, and i think it can actually be kind of sick. build a mill imediatly first 4 vills to berry, then 5 to sheep, then bring in boar and around the time you bring in your second boar you can build your lumber camp. was able to do 18pop scouts or 21 pop FC easily!
Nah
@@edderkoppkabal 20 vil FC sounds crazy. That would make them really nasty on closed maps and DauT knows what could happen on Nomad.
this is much stronger on water maps ... giving you additional wood for a fighting ship or fishing boats without redirecting villagers ... , making your boom faster
More Daut plllsss!
You're all welcome for that glorious intro. As cringy as it may have been. 😂
- Hymax
4Hardy pls make T90's version of The 12 days of Christmas:)
@T90Official how about "and a fast imp into GG" as the last line - credit to user "SoggySocks" for that
Good to see a Byzantine win considering there are better civs that can out match them, great game by both players!
For the Glory of Rome. Roma Aeterna!!
I feel like that video description is us getting trolled. Also, I love it when T90 says WOOWOOWOO!
F's in the chat for the AOE Christmas Carol attempt!
I... I need this. I need to sing this and record it for TH-cam. It is horrible and I love it. I'm gonna go back and screencap that comment... Clearly this person is not a lyricist. "Kessek in a straggler tree" I would replace with "Wonder in a ranked game"
We achieved fusion!
What did Portuguese say to T90? Wood Plzzzz.
Should’ve been 4 trebuchet. Only 2 trebs? Trickle trebbing will not be supported in a T90 Official TM Production
Trickle not thine trebs.
Get wrecked T90
AOE 12 days of xmas, now you have to do it...
lets go
i'm surprised Nicov had more eco upgrades than DauT. Only Nicov could win with Horse Collar alone 11
Kalashnicov has to be one of the best usernames ever lmao. Of course it only works because he was already known as Nicov but idc
How the 12 days song didn't end with "and Fatslob ruling Black Forest", I do not know.
11
How you guys missed 6 geese a laming is beyond me
daut is just fun
T90 singing cringe shit gonna be my new ringtone
Man, he had it written down, and he still fumbled it. Or did he?
Just as they went home today, sad
On the 25th min of AoE, T90 said to me: 12 crossbows diving, 11 villagers villaging, 10 skirmishers skirmishing, 9 monks converting!!! 8 buildings burning, 7 TC's tolling, 6 military betraying, 5 army dying!!! 4 bombards bombarding, 3 camels charging, 2 players playing, aaaaannnnnddddd ONE Kalashnicov-a-wining!
A group of Portuguese Crossbowmen, who had grown tired of a pointless war against the Byzantines, saw a Byzantine farmer struggling to plow her fields. In an act of defiance against the war, the crossbowmen decided to help the farmer.
Grateful for the help, the farmer said 'I don't know what this war is for, you guys rock'. To show her appreciation for their help, the farmer made a delicious 3 course meal for the crossbowmen.
'This meal is what rocks!' the men replied, with thoughts of the war just a fleeting memory now.
As the farmer and the crossbowmen sat around laughing and enjoying their meal, a Byzantine monk walked by.
'WHAT IS THIS SACRILEGE THAT MY EYES DO SEE?' He thundered. 'YOU ARE ALL WRONG. NONE OF THIS ROCKS. GOD IS THE ONE WHO ROCKS!'
As the words left his mouth, 3 firey rocks came hurtling out of the sky and crushed the Portuguese.
Loved the cringe intro song.
What do you mean monks dont chant? Isnt that how they convert?? Always thought it was.
My dream is to one day actually see the portuguese actually win a game between high level players. Been years, still waiting :( Even in water, I always see them getting destroyed. (Granted I don't watch a lot of AOE now due lack of time)
The Viper loves to play with the Portuguese civ, and he wins with them most of the time. And now with the new Portuguese team bonus (25% research on all tech), you will see even more pro players opting for the Portuguese.
Vikings.
We need a completely new architecture set for the Vikings (That resemble their beautiful Norse church wonder)
The main emphasis is on the long boats and their over use of Arbs, the rest are not to important and can be left as is.
Have Vikings lose free hand cart + lose Arbalerster but instead they get Halbedier,(NB!) have their longboats be able to attack as well as transport units (Infantry/vils/monks/kings only) (loses transport ships (until castle age) but they have non attacking Longboats in feudal age.) and gift them cheap trash units Halbs + strong Angon Skirmishers. When infantry destroys an eco building 50 of the connected resource gets looted and added to your stockpile. (borrowed Idea) They could also give the berserkers a new trait that allows them to accumulate Food or Gold when damaging an enemy building thus aiding in their ecco in an accurate and interesting way.
Since they get Halbs change their unique tech Chieftains should allow Beserks to be made in TCs and docks even after all castles have been lost. But dock wood cost increases to 200W.
I’d enjoy raiding coastlines and rivers using longboats to transport infantry and Angon skirms to the shores of my enemies.
I'd say give them other buffs to help in the late game, for instance to have their eco speciality exchanged with the Byzantines speciality.
The Vikings came from a cold, barren mountainous/fjord covered boggy area, Norway,Sweden,Scandinavia where agriculture was highly difficult to maintain, thus their focus was on fishing, but as their culture and cities grew, it became a necessity to raid other shores/peoples in order to survive and thrive. Thus they started to use their brilliant longboats to conquer the northern seas and raid countless European and Mediterranean kingdoms. So I was wandering, why the devs gave the Vikings (Which literally mean Raiders) such a strong economy by means of free handcart and wheelbarrow?
Where the Byzantines/Persians are famous for already having a well established society and Empire by the time of the Middle ages (They had wheelbarrow even before the Western Roman empire fell), with a professional standing army and immense economy and trade. (For such a strong wealthy Empire, why do they have to focus on Trash units in game?)
For me, the two civs will be perfectly compensated to have those two traits switch.
The Byzantines get an ecco upgrade like free wheelbarrow and the Vikings get cheap trash units.
Now, combine that with Viking Wood architecture Castles: Castles cost change to 450 stone and 300 wood (Wood castles have lower HP but they can create a lot more of them due to less stone cost) OR... Since they get Halbs change their unique tech Chieftains to allow Beserks to be made in TCs and docks even after all castles have been lost. But dock wood cost increases to 200W. And Vikings/Norse will be beast and much more interesting!
That will always allow Vikings to create Beserkes in large numbers and have cheap Halbs and Angon/Frakka skirms to back them up throughout the game and into the late game. (Celt skirms also need a buff) No need for arbs. Then you take your Berserks+ trash , get onto your longboats and go Viking/Raid the enemy shores. (Without wasting wood nor pop space on Transport ships) They could also give the berserkers a new trait that allows them to accumulate Food or Gold when damaging an enemy building thus aiding in their ecco in an accurate and interesting way.
Peasant:’’If Vikings lose arb they will be useless in imp. FALSE!!!!! Proof:
th-cam.com/video/jDdgAdxDBXo/w-d-xo.html
Watch both the 1st and 2nd games.
VIKINGS SHOULD LOSE ARBS!!!
(If the Vikings get split then the Later Chrstian Kingdom of the Swedes will have Arbalesters but the traditional old Norse civ Vikings/Norse/Danes should have an emphasis on Viking raiders thus Infantry+Skirms+infantry transporting Longboats)
See this very good video:
th-cam.com/video/PWM85ckevLw/w-d-xo.html
The Byzantines had massive armies, not because they used cheap levies , but instead they had some of the world's most Elite soldiers from all across their vast empire, as a professional standing army. Equipped with the finest of armour (scale mail) and weapons from the west (Such as the Spatha sword for their cataphracts and straight swordsmen ) and weapons evolved/updated from all across their mighty empire , the Levant/Mesopotamia and North Africa, such as their eloquent Paramerion curved sword used by their Elite cavalry (Paladins) and Champions, only due to their brilliant administrative skills and a monstrous economy.
Pardon my essays, but I adore Byzantine history,culture and military. After the Crusading civs, they are my favourite civ ever.
Where in turn the Norsemen were not a highly trained elite force , using standardised equipment, but instead were hardy and brave fighters whom in the harvest season were regular townsfolk and only relished warfare due to their religion / customs. So they were hardy and fierce fighters eager to go raid and battle at a whim ... thus they will take up their shields, spears, sword , javelins and axes and go fight/raid even when not being paid ... thus they are obvious cheap units. Cheap trash will fit them perfectly.
Vikings/Norse could also gain another unit in the Barracks, the Shield Maiden.
Shield Maiden - Limited build amount (Up to 20) Low HP ,average pierce armour and same attack as a longswordsman but when mixed into a formation of infantry , the shield maiden as well as all the infantrymen gain +1 attack and +1 pierce armour.
Byzantines.
In turn have Byzantines lose Hand cannoneer, bombard cannon and bombard tower , [to have them not become intensely OP and these forms of warfare was much more used by their neighbours (Italy) and enemies (Turks)].(If WB+HC goes to Persia then no need for Byzantines to loose gunpowder) Trash becomes more expensive and Imp becomes more expensive but Civ gets free wheel burrow and free hand cart. (For even when they were still the Eastern Roman empire, they already had WB+HC)(If Persia gets Free HC+Free WB then Byzantines retain their cheap camels)
Byzantines get a unique tech in the Feudal age barracks: Justinian Reforms - Sword line +1 Melee or Pierce armour from castle age.
(Optional) Enables the technology of Varangian Guard from the Feudal age.
In Feudal age , Byzanitne army (As well as Viking allies) gain access to a special unit in the Barracks called the Varangian Guard. - Expensive , slow moving but difficult to convert with a limited build amount.
Since the Byzantines are a Defensive civ, the Varangian Guards can have a high attack boost when in the vicinity of a TC or Castle but outside a certain radius from these buildings the VG should lose the strong attack bonus and just be as strong as a normal Man at Arms/Long Sword/Champion.
(Highly loyal guards of the Emperor) To defend against early rushes , but since they are expensive,slow and limited, you will have to think strategically as to when and where to deploy/station them.
Unique Castle techs remain Logistica.
Greek fire - Fireships damage adjacent ships. (Loses the useless+1 range buff)
Please give Byzantines Camel trade carts and a proper architecture something like this will be perfect: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1275323988
since 80% of their empire and trade stretched across the deserts of Anatolia, the Levant and North Africa. Byzantine ships should also acquire beautiful coloured Lateen sails still adorned with a cross.
Once upon a time, there was a hunter, a farmer, and three monks. The trio were bald. But not so back in their hay day. They now pass wisdom and word of God into the hunter and the farmer. They all loitering around the town center.
One day, an army attacked their town center. Thinking they were the byzantines and attack like a byzantine. One of them, a bombard cannon set the building on fire with his balls. A cannonballs. The monks trio had slight annoyance by this and tried to convince the bombard cannon to stop. Which they did. Now the bombard cannon is their friend and not friend with the army who act like byzantine which was his former friend.
The army decided to march forward into the town center. The monks decided to call a mangonel who graduated from university of nicov and learned how to set their stone on fire. It now can fire balls of fire. Fireballs.
The stage is set, the army move in and tried to convince the hunter, the farmer, and three monks to join them. To live their way of living. The living of Portuguese that acted like byzantines. With burning town center above them. The mangonel launch its shot of fireballs. It sent a baptism by fire unto them. Ready to end it all.
But the end did not come. They all not scorched out but frozen in time. There was no closing chapter of their tale. Nor a satisfying ending. Nothing.
Just because their lord above called GG.
Unrelated but England lost and I'm sad :( maybe daut will pull it out the bag here ❤️😂
VIIIIIIVE LA FRAAAAAAAANCE !!!!!
I don't follow football so this is how I found out. Lol. This isn't new, I first heard about the storming of the capitol on an Orthodox Christian meme subreddit. I'm not even Orthodox. The internet is weird.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts lmao 😂
Never sing a Christ mass song again.
New side gig. T90officialcarols
That's the best "Twelve Days of Christmas" I have ever heard, T90! Who needs maids-a-milking and all their cows anyway?!? 😲 BTW, Monks DO NOTHING BUT chant.....
Joke? Christmas rocks, Dude! 👍🤣
M 🦘🏏😎