ANACS Unboxing - Coin Grading Results
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*ANACS Coin Grading and Morgan Dollar Varieties*
*Introduction to ANACS Coin Grading:*
ANACS (American Numismatic Association Certification Service) is one of the most reputable coin grading services in the United States, established in 1972 as the first major coin grading service to authenticate coins. ANACS is renowned for its consistent grading standards and ability to certify coins with unique features, making it a trusted service for Morgan dollar varieties.
*Morgan Silver Dollars Overview:*
The Morgan dollar, designed by George T. Morgan, is one of the most popular American coins. Minted from 1878 to 1904 and again in 1921, it was produced at several mints, resulting in a wide array of varieties. Collectors highly value these varieties as they showcase subtle differences in design, minting errors, and die states, making each coin unique.
*ANACS Grading Process:*
ANACS uses a numeric grading scale from 1 to 70, based on the Sheldon scale, where 70 represents a perfect uncirculated coin. They label coins with terms like "Mint State" (MS) or "Very Fine" (VF) to describe their condition. ANACS excels in identifying and certifying Morgan dollar varieties, providing detailed labels that indicate unique characteristics, such as errors or die variations, which is valuable for collectors.
*Popular Morgan Dollar Varieties Graded by ANACS:*
1. *1878 8 Tail Feathers vs. 7 Tail Feathers Varieties:*
One of the most famous Morgan dollar varieties is the 1878 8 Tail Feathers (TF) and 7 TF versions. The original design featured 8 tail feathers, but it was quickly changed to 7. ANACS identifies and certifies these variations, including the 7/8 TF variety, where remnants of the 8th feather are visible.
2. *VAM (Van Allen-Mallis) Varieties:*
VAM varieties refer to a system developed by Leroy Van Allen and A. George Mallis that catalogs specific die variations, such as doubling or overdates. ANACS is known for accurately attributing VAM numbers on Morgan dollars, providing collectors with clear identification. Notable VAM varieties include the 1888-O "Hot Lips" (VAM-4) and 1880/79 overdates.
3. *1879-CC Capped Die and Clear CC Varieties:*
The 1879-CC Morgan dollar has two significant varieties: the "Capped Die," where the mintmark appears partially covered, and the "Clear CC," which is well-defined. The Capped Die variety is rarer and more sought after. ANACS effectively distinguishes and labels these varieties.
4. *1882-O/S Over Mintmark Varieties:*
The 1882-O/S Morgan dollar is known for its over-mintmark feature, where an "O" (New Orleans) was struck over an "S" (San Francisco). There are strong and weak versions of this over-mintmark, and ANACS accurately identifies and certifies these variations.
*The Importance of ANACS Grading for Collectors:*
ANACS’s expertise in identifying and certifying Morgan dollar varieties benefits collectors by providing authenticity, reducing the risk of acquiring counterfeit or altered coins. This is particularly important for varieties where differences can be subtle but significant. ANACS's accurate grading and attribution help collectors build a reliable collection with confidence.
*Conclusion:*
ANACS plays a crucial role in the numismatic community, especially in grading Morgan dollar varieties. Their expertise in identifying and certifying varieties enhances the value and collectibility of these coins. By offering accurate grading and detailed attribution, ANACS remains a trusted partner for collectors and investors, ensuring the authenticity and value of Morgan dollar collections.
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1880-S PL...they did you a kindness...it's cleaned. They drop the grade in exchange for calling it cleaned.
I agree.
I agree. Way to many micro scratches on the coin
The Check has been clean/altered to make it look mark free.
I think you should send the 80-s into PCGS so you can find out what a details grade is. That's not a nice 80-s.
That ms62pl 1880-S is a “details cleaned” coin 100%. They net graded it. PCGS probably won’t do the same. I have an 1880-S in the same boat. It has light hairlines on a pl obverse with frosty device. It would be an easy 65 and probably 65 star at ngc. I use it as a edc coin.
THAT 1880S IS A 62, HAS A LOT OF CHATTER IN THE FIELDS
The 1880-s, is a 62 all day the fields are well marked as you can see when you rotate the coin. All PL and DMPL coins show every mark.
Totally agree
That 80 s is nice but 100 percent a details coin. Micro scratches all over the fields and devices.
Need to look at the fields also. Light abrasions all over the 62pl. Weak strike last, yes. Actually the face many have been doctored and ANACS missed it. It truly does look off. Id except the grade IMO. 1880 s morgans have superior quality and graders are more strict on that year and 1881 s.
9:30 i strongly disagree with your assessment here. the grading company got it right. you should put that 62 under a microscope if you can't see all the pock marks on that coin.
👍 Thank you!
I believe you are correct that some things have changed. For the better or for the worse is the question. Yes, I see questionable grades, grades being too low, and the turnaround time being so long is new to me. Anyways, please keep 'em coming!
You have to learn to recognize when your coins are cleaned. I’ve been collecting since 70’s and I’d say the 1880S has altered surface where the cheeks has been smoothed based on little view I see and wear in the hair as well as cleaned in the fields… 1880 S should be a strong strike unlike O mint… just seeing what you want to see… and ANACs is super generous
On the '85 S/S even being extremely generous an XF45 is the most you could have possibly ever hoped for (AU would not even be on the table!), and they took it down to XF40 for the obvious cleaning, sorry but that is the best outcome you could reasonably expect. On the 1880-s I would say you were lucky you did not get a 'cleaned' designation as well as the 'MS62 all those parallel cleaning marks in the left field? c'mon, and liberty has the three marks right by her mouth, clean cheek true, but those marks still stand out, and it's definitely nowhere near DMPL, that takes a 'black and white' coin with regard to CONTRAST between devices and fields, that is the detemrining factor! It's absolutely not present on this coin, and the fields are super scuffy due to it's having been cleaned.You mean to say you see that strength of contrast on this coin? You are deluding yourself. While I sympathise with your disappointment. I would say you were not realistic in your expectations to begin with (when coins were initially assessed and sent in by you) and now you are trying to rationalize away the clear condition detractors that are probably readily apparent to most collectors watching this video.
Looks like you're doing really well picking out nice cheeks, but you might be undervaluing field chatter. The 80-S seemed, on video at least, to have a fair amount of very small field marks. Plus, like you said, those are always graded tight. All that being said, I still think if you graded it ten times it would come back better than a 62 seventy five of the time. That's a bummer. I'd be interested in seeing the PCGS result. On the Franklin, I think they'll only give FBL attribution on MS coins.
No FBL on coins less than MS. Same for FS and FB.
You have no MS65's. 65 will basically be called gem and have no dings, scratches or any other marks. I got an order back from ANACS and I was not pleased, they seem to go down 1 point a few came back ok (less than half)
This isn’t quite accurate. I’ve properly guessed several 65’s. The check has to be nearly flawless and the fields can have chatter. To be a 66 the cheek must be flawless and the fields need to be nearly clean and a good strike.
This will help you in life, not just with coins. If 1 person says you are wrong...'eff them. But when you over grade a coin 90% of the time, and think every coin is DMPL/cameo, then the issue is *YOU*. Eat some humble pie. Admit you need to learn more. Stop blaming PCGS. 90% means the issue is within. I'm the same way. Hard thing to accept. Gotta pick up on the patterns and take it upon yourself to change. Or gripe 24/7. But it's not appealing from a viewing standpoint. I stopped at 6:05 and couldn't handle any more.
Watch my other recent videos. I have gotten pretty good at my grading. This was ANACS not PCGS
That 1880-S, clean cheek but what about that hit next to her mouth? It's either a 62 or 63--early S mints get graded harshly. On the 1898, you didn't show the reverse at all. Can't say I agree with the MS 60 details though--it's a 65 without the scratch.
Sorry I focus on the obverse too much. Was kinda rushing the video due to my circumstances.
@@rockysramblings Anyone else notice since collectors universe purchased PCGS back in 2020, the company went to 💩?
Traveling with shows, speaking to collectors, sellers, etc. Immediately after the takeover, they got rid of the o.g. graders even the guy who took the truview images. After researching, it seems as those with no regulating parties against them, they purchased the company to usher in their own people. Pedro, Cesar, Carlos, etc. They have in mind to completely manipulate and monopolize the business in favor of their selected few. They are directly responcible for hurting many people. This will change. I am in contact with a group of lawyers who are discecting their business practices.
Simply, I recommend NGC, because PCGS may not have a future.
Don`t worry about the grade you get if its not quite favorable. Its good holdered and safe. If you go to sell you may get the better grade from a buyer that sees it too. Otherwise they want you to keep submitting a coin to upgrade. They want those submission fees.
That 1880 MS62PL is mental.
The only thing I can think of is that they thought it may have been cleaned and gave it a net grade. But still!!
Cheek could have doctored. ANACS did not call it out. I think pcgs would details unc. The 1880 s
You know I view ANA on a much lower scale than you do. All 80S and 81S look that nice and pcgs will never give you PL on that. You thought it might be cleaned and I think you are right. Are you looking at these coins with a 20 power mag? You have a lot of chatter in the field and with pl ish they will show each one. Love the video.
MS60 Details means any details coin with uncirculated detail. ANACS only does specific details grades up to AU58 before throwing everything into the same group
Correct, they are slow and also unapologetic, this occurred also with me. THE HIGH COST of LOW COSAT grading company.
I like these vids
I read that ANACS has "toughen" their grading standards, I suppose, to be viewed as tough grading company, thus, a better grading service. The problem is that lower grades doesn't make them better. Only more accurate grading would make them better. As far as I'm concerned, the value of big five grading companies is authentication. The rest of it is just an opinion driven in a big part to gain a better industry standing.
Correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe they will ever give you a full bell designation if it is not ms 60 or better. same with full bands or split bands or full steps.
I was not aware of this at the time
dude that 1896 although it had some toning it wasnt really that nice. the luster was dulled, the toning color spectrum was just okay. MS 62 on th 1896 was honestly, lucky you even got that grade on it.
it's not only about the face. the fields of some of these coins have enough marks to justify the grades. if some of these senet to pcgs or ngc would be detail cleaned coins.
I was concerned about the 80 S being deemed as cleaned. I do worry if I send to PCGS they’ll label it as cleaned. However even with fields with chatter, a face that clean should be a 64. The majority of the grade comes from the face and strike
Your ignoring the fields they impact your grade too
@ the least Anzac’s does give some kind of grade unlike PCGS ,
Anyone else notice since collectors universe purchased PCGS back in 2020, the company went to 💩?
Traveling with shows, speaking to collectors, sellers, etc. Immediately after the takeover, they got rid of the o.g. graders even the guy who took the truview images. After researching, it seems as those with no regulating parties against them, they purchased the company to usher in their own people. Pedro, Cesar, Carlos, etc. They have in mind to completely manipulate and monopolize the business in favor of their selected few. They are directly responcible for hurting many people. This will change. I am in contact with a group of lawyers who are discecting their business practices.
Simply, I recommend NGC, because PCGS may not have a future.
Yo Rocky! Do what u said U were gonna do. Send it to PCGS or maybe NGC. That was a nice face on that 62. Do it! Then you'll really know. U might want to break it out of that Anac holder though before you send it. 😁 Love your show bro. 👍
Send the 1880-S PL to PCGS! Break it out of the holder first, though
I would send the coin back to be regraded or submit it elsewhere. I really enjoy your videos. Best Regards!
I know nothing about stabbed coins, if u don't like the grade and think it should be a higher grade can u break it and re send it in? I understand it cost money to grade but if ur coin got the 1 more higher grade that would make up for the cost
with my experience, ANACS does not over grade.
Maybe they accidentally put both coins in the wrong holder(?)
Haha well PCGS labeled a quarter a nickel on me so I guess anything is possible
Your coins look beautiful to me!
I think you were lucky to get the grades you got. We all think our coins are better than they really are. Reality check.
Fair enough. But my last few submission I guessed my grades pretty close if not under grade. I’ve gotten pretty good with Morgans
the 1880 s was not a 65 dmpl, your kinda way overgrading on that. theres SOOO many 1880s they all look nice, to get a DMPL dude you need to like reconsider the grading on those. it was not that nice. i mean i dont wanna be mean, but just reconsider on that. coin
I’m okay with not getting the Dmpl. It was the grade that I disagree with
Think you have to pay for details full grades extra
I never had to before
I hope you regrade them!!!
the whole coin grading racket. i don't grade my coins. the only people that are going to buy a truly unique and rare coin don't need a crummy grading company to tell them what it is.
If it shatters your delusions about your coins, stop submitting them to professional grading companies.
You seem like a particularly joyful individual
Can’t watch anymore. We all think we are expert graders.
No I don’t but with Morgans I’ve gotten pretty good.
@@rockysramblings I understand. I just want to apologize if I sounded sarcastic or demeaning. Probably should have kept my comments to myself. I need to work on that.
You got robbed on the 80 S for sure. Honestly if you send that to PCGS, you should just crack it out and then send it.
He’d be wasting money. Pcgs will not straight grade that coin. It’s obviously been cleaned.
You were right. The face was flawless!
Once it has details it shouldn't even get a grade.
I think it’s a nice feature. It’s still given the details grade anyway.
who cares anyway morgan dollars are by far the ugliest version of lady liberty in existence. on the peace dollar she is actually beautiful
I disagree
I agree 1000 %
I don't think they give fbl designation unless it's mint state.
I think you’re correct. I was unaware of this
I'd Crack the 1880 s and send it to ngc.