Hi there! I noticed that saving the profile on "Profile Distribution" I can just save for my user enabling "User Level" but it won't appear in all the users if you are not the Admin. Actually "Save Profile" will be disabled and won't let you save. Excellent series of videos! You nailed it!
Lots of granularity with profile distribution setting, regarding the user or now, it really does not matter since where these profile are stored is in the System 32 folder and that is not under any specific user folder. And thank you!
Great video and very clear explaination, the only thing I didn't like about this software is that unlike DisplayCal it doesn't provide you with exact information about how much of a color space is being properly covered after calibration (e.g. Rec.709:100% or P3: 96%)
Thanks. The information that you have about color gamut coverage percentage is never really accurate, which is why this software avoid this all together.
Thank-you so much for this. I found this video to be extremely clear and helpful and I'm really happy with the results of the calibration on my BenQ PV270. Great work
@@ArtIsRight I thought you said that PD monitors cannot do hardware calibration with external calibrator (like spider pro). At least that’s what I think you mean by hardware calibration. If so how is it that you were able to use the hardware device on the screen to calibrate it if it can only do software calibration. Please answer as this determines the monitor I plan to buy.
One of the most best tutorial video. I followed every step of your video trying to calibrate a 2019 retina MacBook Pro. One question: Does this mean that, once the monitor is calibrated, I absolutely no longer have to touch my Mac's brightness control? Tks by an Italian fan
Thank you Art for the video. I'd love to see a more expanded video around luminance and overall color matching for photo printing and video editing. When I first started using the i1Profiler a few years back, I started with 120 cd/m2 default value. It was certainly a huge departure from the default factory brightness of my monitor (I needed to get down to 22 out of 100 on my Acer BM320). The colors were certainly lot more accurate based on Delta E quality check, but though noticeably improved, I couldn't achieve what I'd qualify as very good print matching. First, the brightness of the monitor was too low vs. the prints, and the colors were sometimes either warmer or cooler on the prints. I'm sure the quality of the printing services I was using was one factor. The other I realized was my print viewing environment, the ambient lighting around my monitor, etc. Through some trial and error, I've been able to achieve a satisfactory print matching based on calibrating for D65 & 160 cd/m2. I noticed that the luminance of 160 cd/m2 had a note in the i1Profiler that it's based on ISO 3664 P2, which I learned to be a Print Viewing standard, with 500 lux viewing condition. For the monitor, I setup D65 ambient lighting around my monitor (fairly dim to only provide some eye relief), and for viewing prints, I got a print viewing lamp with high CRI, and set the temp to D50 equivalent and at 500 lux. And I got the level of print matching I hadn't been able to achieve before. There was some "logic" to my approach, but I don't have a grasp of the overall theory, so it was more of a dumb luck and piecing together tidbits of information from various online sources (which we know how "reliable" they can be). Any video that could provide some wisdom on the overall color matching would be great, just an idea ;)
Thank you Art! I performed the advanced color calibration for the first time--previously I had used the Basic. I performed the calibration as I followed along with your tutorial. Great job, keep up the good work!
Hello Art. Thank you very much for your support and the video. It was so helpful! One question I do have though. When calibration ist done exactly how you showed (Apple Studio with the PD3220U) . How do I use my setting correctly? In the system references, I got the right profile now. Do I have to put my setting on the hotkey puck to -> «color», «color mode», to «user»? Just want to make sure, that the screen really shows the colors with the profile I set up. Thank you very much!
You should choose the color mode before calibrating. If you haven't made any changes on your display, you are probably using P3 at the moment. Leave it, you are fine. If you want to use another color mode, set that first and then run the calibration. Mac: th-cam.com/video/03an7iyhvbQ/w-d-xo.html Win: th-cam.com/video/bRSwd4x99ao/w-d-xo.html
Hi Art, Great video as all of yours are! Not sure this is the right video to ask this question. Maybe you answer it somewhere else. I have calibrated several different monitors including my XPS15 laptop. On the left side of the Display Settings screen there is a Assets box, with various sub-listings... Display Settings, Profile Settings, Patch Sets, Measurements, ICC Profiles, Saved Workflows. I can see all my saved ICC Profiles there and other listings. -- How/when are each of these sub-listings to be used by me? You did not run the Display/Quality (on software home page) in this video, but how to use these Assets after running the Quality Check? -- What should I do (or not do) regarding the assets when doing the Quality Check? What video is best for showing the Quality Check operation/review? I hope you can help me 'put it all together' for my clearer Assets understanding. BTW, Quality Check is now working with the last CCProfiler update on my laptop. So I uninstalled i1Profiler software, and exclusively use CC Profiler. Many thanks for all your videos and great responses to user questions! Roger
What you see on the left is a repeat of what you see in the bottom workflow part. If you have a custom calibration save at each stage of the process then you can simply choose the preset that you made and those will load all of the setting that you have setup. I personally have not used this as much as I have done calibration and that is a lot. I just ran more than 10 calibration in the past few hours. So unless you have varying specific need I would not worry too much about this. I would just run display QA after the calibration. This ∆e explain video will give you a good idea of how to read the QA data th-cam.com/video/YzkOjL9JUJU/w-d-xo.html ccProfiler QA has always worked but it does crash sometime, at least until this update. These 2 software are practically the same back end with logo change and some minor variations for device support. Hope this helps. Please feel free to follow up.
Great videos thank you. The process I followed went well until I got to the "Display QA" and it was greyed out and couldn't finish the process. Any suggestions on why it is greyed out and how to go around it?. I am using the old I1Display Pro photographer kit. Thank you
I'm not sure why that is the case on yours, I need more info. What you can do, however, is start a validation process separately from the main screen, I would give that a try.
Hello Art, thank you for all your very informative videos! I have hard time doing hardware calibration of my ViewSonic VP2785-2K using Calibrite Display Plus - older Colorbration software often is not able to connect to the colorimeter or monitor (it doesn't specify to which of them) and newer Colorbration+ software often crashes while loading. Currently they both' wont work, and I am not able to perform hardware calibration. Even when they work, the newer Colorbration+ gives terrible result with too much blacks, while the older Colorbration doesn't have so much blacks, but still a black to white gradient is not purely neutral with some faint red overall cast, and also some local stripes with greener or more red tint. I have tried only the newer Calibrite Profiler software, but from this video I see that the older i1 Profiler looks exactly the same as the older ViewSonic Colorbration Software. I guess, older Colorbration version was a rebranded i1 Profiler with some functionality stripped down, so that's why it might be not so stable, if it didn't follow up with the actual releases of i1 Profiler?
They are technically all made by X-Rite. i1Display Pro Plus is the same as Calibrite ColorChecker Display Plus. The thing is that you can use ColorChecker Profilier from Calibrite to with your i1Display Pro Plus device. If you want to use Calibrate Profilier you would have to pay a $9.99 one time upgrade fee. It has to do with the device license. Anyhow, I sadden you are running into these issue, in general, I don't recommend ViewSonic Pro or Asus ProArt because of the inadequate calibration capability of their software. What you can do for the time being is use ColorChecker Profilier, follow this guide and see if you can get it to work. The device should work with Calibrite software just fine. I would check and make sure that view sonic software is not running in the background preventing the device from working properly. If you have any further questions dm me on fb page or insta and we'll go from there. There may be a lot of back and forth which is why I recommend dm.
@@ArtIsRight Hello Art! Thank you for replying! Apologies for following up so late on this topic, but for a long time I had the far more important task of parenting of a newborn son, and now it is the first occasion I can get back to this topic. If I use Calibrite Profiler or ColorChecker Profiler, will I be able to perform a hardware calibration? My understanding is that only the monitor manufacturer's own software is able to perform hardware calibration. Is that correct, or am I missing something?
Thank you very much for a very useful video! The only I didn't get was the very end where you compare profiles visually. Where do I find this "Mac os 10 color sync utility launch" at a PC?
Exellect video! Do I understand correctly, that during calibration, if I adjust the brightness of the display to match the quality indicator, I should keep the same brightness value when I'm later color grading? Thank you!
Hey, Art! Thanks for the videos. This one in particular was useful and I've watched several others while looking to buy a new monitor. I recently received my BenQ EW3280U monitor and I love it. However, I would like to calibrate it for use with my laptop to do some photo editing. I am not a professional photographer, but still like to print out my images for personal use and as gifts. I typically use online print services for this and most of them use sRGB. In addition, I will be using the monitor for gaming and movie watching. For the size and price, an entertainment monitor seemed to fit my budget and needs better than a professional photographer or designers monitor. I would like to ensure the monitor is calibrated for use with my laptop, but the problem is I'm not sure what color mode to put it in. The specs for the monitor say it will do 95% DCI-P3, which is very close to the sRGB space, but there is no specific DCI-P3 mode. My options are Low Blue Light, Rec.709, Color Weakness, M-book, Standard and User. I had expected to see a DCI-P3 mode. Would this be the Standard and is that what I should be using when I create a color profile on my laptop? I know any HDR setting needs to be turned off on both the laptop and the monitor. Thanks in advance!
@Brandon Porter, great question, this this case I would use Standard. Also another mode that you might consider using is Uses, in that mode you can adjust the RGB gained manually, and if you choose this mode you would have to check the RGB adjustment in i1Profiler as well.
New subscriber here. Great videos! I'm still waiting to order my new PD3220U display, but I saw a comment somewhere from BenQ there is a panel shortage due to COVID19. Not sure when I'll get one but, when I DO eventually catch them back in stock, I intend to go through this process. I just picked up the X-Rite i1Display Pro and will probably test it out on my two Asus PB278Q monitors to practice while I'm waiting for the BenQ to come back in stock. My primary point of confusion is how to prep the monitor before calibration. Should I do a factory reset of all settings? Do I need to disable any type of automatic adjustments (things like black enhancers, etc). Should I set to Warm, Cool or Normal? Should I do this at night in a dark room to ensure best accuracy? Lastly, should I remove/disable any current ICC profiles I'm using in Windows 10? Any advice you can provide on monitor prep (other than the 30 min warm up time) will be appreciated. Sorry for all the questions and I apologize if I missed the answers in one of your other videos. If you answered these questions in a prior video, please let me know which one and I'll watch it. Thanks again!
Thank you, no you don't need to do a factory reset, I'm sure you have not change that much settings. About preparing the OS for Win watch this th-cam.com/video/TP4oMLnJNiE/w-d-xo.html for mac watch this th-cam.com/video/hDHBodulVbw/w-d-xo.html About the color, I would set it to normal or better yet there should be a mode where you can choose the temperature, if you can choose D65 or 6500K. You don't have to do this at night in a darkroom, I may or may not have mentioned in this video that you don't have to calibrate in the dark because the calibrate opening have a felt lining that prevents light from going in. Just as long as it stays flat on the display you are ok. You don't need to set any icc before hand watch this video for the answer why th-cam.com/video/Yvu-sgddna0/w-d-xo.html No need to apologize. There's lots of resources and can be hard to find.
Hey there, thank you for the tutorial, it helped a lot to calibrate my ROG monitors. I have a question of how I can use my Colorchecker Display Pro for LED or OLED TV's, understandably they do not have color profiles you can save or install as on the PC or a Mac. How I can do this manually using an external laptop and this device? Maybe tutorial of some sorts could help? Thank you!
In short you can't or not really well it comes to TV. You are correct that you can't really install a profile on the TV. However, some of the high end model have calibration mode and a adjustable LUT. But it is not as simple as just putting a calibrator on the display. They are generally only compatible with the high end - pro calibration software such as CalMan and you have to use a pro color radiometer and a pattern generator to start. It is complicated and too costly.
Amazing video helped me so much! My question is how do I access the different calibrationprofiles I have made? Every time I’m in cc profiler I can’t see them in the folder I saved them in. If I’m outside cc profiler I can see them but cannot open them?
You would do that through your system. In Mac system preferences - display and choose the display. In PC, display preferences you'll see a place to choose an icc profile
Great video! Perhaps I'm the only one. But I was really struggling getting accurate results, even while following this Demo. The Delta E's kept fluctuating between 2 to even above 20. After awhile I discovered that an application that I'm using to control the brightness of my external screen, Lunar, kept changing the colours of my display. After quiting Lunar I get delta E's below 2 on my Dell U2723QE. This took me a lot of troubleshooting. Maybe this comment can be of any help for others having similar issues in combination with Lunar.
There are videos guides on settings to turn off before calibration. And I don't usually recommend installing any 3rd party software that effects displays. However, I am glad that you figured this out and it is good to know. I don't feel that many users out there are using Lunar, but some probably do. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for this video, I’d be lost without you. I calibrated my brand new BenQ PD2725U and in the Display QA my numbers were off but it passed,so I recalibrated and “remeasured” and now it says it failed. What should I do?
Thank you, It is a very detailed and informative video on colour calibration for monitors. I want to understand the difference in gamma values to be used for different colour profiles while using Photoshop. 1. I use prophoto rgb gamut and 1.8 as the value of gamma. Do i have to use gamma value of 1.8 when calibrating my PC display. 2. Post calibration the colour profile which is saved can it be used in Photoshop with the gamma value set to the same as used while calibrating the screen.
The gamma for both Mac and PC is 2.2 you can calibrate at other gamma but that will change your image outcome. It is best to stick to the gamma that most devices use which is 2.2. About profile, you can use that in PS. Gamma control is a function of the display and profile, PS does not change this.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for your quick response. So even if i use Prophoto RGB profile which is the widest color gamut available in photoshop, the gamma value will be 1.8 but while calibrating the gamma value in i1 xrite deeply should be 2.2..if i have understood it correctly. How do i save my images for prints consistent results. I mean in what format and size in photoshop. the result of my display is max delta of 1.1 and average delta of .55
Not sure where you are getting Gamma 1.8 from. If the calibration gamma is 2.2 you will be seeing 2.2 not 1.8. As I said PS does not have a setting that control the display directly to change the output. However, it does have soft proofing but that feature does not change the display gamma, unless the profile that you are using for proofing was done at gamma 1.8. But if you want everything to look good just stick with the standard 2.2 gamma. And yes your calibration results looks fine.
I have watched several of your videos. They are clear, well organized and explain the reasons behind what you say. --- I am first time using my Colorchecker Display Plus/CCProfiler and followed this video. Is this the best video for the Display Plus? I have Win 11 laptop and have successfully profiled my LG external monitor and saved the .icm profile. In Control Panel color settings I can see the named profile. --- I am now trying to run Display Quality on CCchecker home page, but it shows "No active profile". How to get this to show up in CCProfiler? Thanks for your help!
Thank you! The program for the most part is the same with some minor GUI changes. But this is still the best video until I film an updated video. About the ICM profile. This is an issue in Windows 11 right now where the ICM profile is not assigned or handed off to the program correctly which is why you are running into the issue. Let me see what I can find out. But for now I would make sure that the ICM profile that you created is selected in the display setting. Another thing that you can do as well is download i1Profiler from X-Rite and use it with your device. They will work just fine. I know that X-Rite just update their software to a newer version with Windows 11 bug fix. Give that a go and let me know.
@@ArtIsRight The work around (for the "No active profile error in CCProfiler with Win11) works fine. I Downloaded/installed/updated the i1 profiler software. I did the profiling again and then the Quality and Uniformity. I am happy that after calibration my
Those square just shows what is supposed to look like vs what it captures, don't look too much into it. They are more visual representations than any thing critical. You can hover over the color and it will give you the delta e value for the specific box / color or you can just export the report which aggregate everything together in 1 HTML doc.
@@ArtIsRight The above No active profile workaround did not work for Display Quality with the internal display of my Win11 laptop. I can switch the screen to the external display and the profile shows. Then go back to the laptop and no active profile. But the profile shows in the Settings Color Management dialogue box. -- Any other ideas for running Display Quality? (Except revert to Win 10!) Of course I know the display was profiled, it is just the quality checking. -- BTW, should the i1Profiler be showing a countdown 27 days left timer? Many thanks for helping me through.
This could be a Windows 11 related bug. I would email Calibrite tech support and see what they say. i1Profiler should not be showing a count down but I might remind you to register the device in 27 days, which you can just click out of.
Thanks a lot for this! I have a 4K 27" Acer ConceptD CM3271K and Calibrite i1Display Plus for calibration. I can select User mode with "general" color space (which color space is this?), sRGB mode, AdobeRGB, HDR, Standard, Gaming, etc... I see that the possibilities using the Acer Color Calibrator software are really limited so I have used the X-Rite ccProfiler instead. How do you deal with different modes and the calibration? Should different calibration be performed and different icc profiles generated for different modes? I am willing to use sRGB color space for web, AdobeRGB for editing pictures, BT2020 for HLG and Rec709 for video. Thanks for clarifying!
if you can choose Adobe RGB, choose that. And yes you can have an icc profile for each color mode but to be honest it is not worth the time. Just stick with Adobe RGB for everything. Side note you can't do BT2020 calibration at the point, no software understand this gamut. And you can do REC 709 for video, but again too much effort because of this one simple thing th-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/w-d-xo.html
@@ArtIsRight thanks! I will check more of your videos. They are incredibly valuable for me as beginner! Just another question: I've got the plus because of the possibility to use gamma 1886. So would you recommend to do one calibration with AdobeRGB and gamma 2.2 for photography and a second one using Rec709 and gamma 1886 for video editing? Do you have more info about gamma 1886 vs 2.2?
So if you do both type of creative work it is not a bad idea to calibrate for the 2 settings. Gamma 2.2 for photo is linear and fix. Whereas BT 1886 is a logarithmic curve that changes on the scale. So video is better with that.
Thanks for the video it did clear a lot of things I had. I got 2/3 questions though if you don't mind. 1. Is it okay to set a higher luminance than 100-120cd/m2? I'm going to use my monitor for general stuff (web/watching video/gaming/work). So I can just set the brightness to my comfort where the monitor is displayed? 2. This one is kinda 2 questions in 1. I bought the x-rite display pro plus, so I have the BT1886 option, do I need to set it to that? Or sRGB considering that I want vibrant/accurate colours but not using it for printing photos or professional photography editing but for surfing through the web watching movies and doing work stuff? 2.1 And for the gamma is it fine if I leave it to 2.2? I saw an option on another calibrator software that let you select srgb instead of 2.2 which is roughly the same but the srgb line curve makes the dark appear lighter. So I hate it when my colours are darker or lighter than usual. That is the reason why I bought a calibrator. I'm not going to use it for photo editing or professional printing/editing stuff. I just want my colours to look vibrant and correct when surfing through the web, watching a movie and doing my stuff for work.
1. yes, the range is just a suggestion but works universally throughout and for all uses even for web and video, but if you prefer more just calibrate with more. 2. BT1886 is really used for color grading and video work. You can calibrate it to that if you do video work. BT1886 is a logarithmic gamma curve rather than a linear one and is totally different from color gamut which is sRGB. Normal BT1886 is used with REC709. For content consumption, you'll won't see that much benefit and it is easier to keep it simple and not over think it. 3. See answer above gamma and gamut are not the same. sRGB gamut choose 2.2 that is standard for photo editing.
Hello Art, thank so much for these tutorials. You bring so much information and make things easier to follow. I was wondering whether I could use this method to calibrate my panasonic st60 plasma TV. It is connected with an HDMI cable to the pc which serves as a home theater pc. Are TVs hardware calibrated or can I use Software? And being a self emissive display should I use different settings? Thanks again.
Yes you can. TV are software calibration for the most part and as long as your input source is a computer then you are good with this type of calibration!
Hi Arts! Thank you so much for your videos! They helped me a lot but I still got some questions: 1. I calibrated Macbook pro M1 Max with iProfiler Pro according to your method (PFS native), which came out great! However I also calibrated an external display(DELL S2721DGF) but it came out more red compared to Macbook pro. I was wondering if there is any solutions to make the displays more similar? 2. In photoshop, should I need to change the colorsetting to the new ICC I made for the Dell Display which is my main display? 3. For MacBook pro, is it correct that if I use the new icc for Current Profile in ColorSync, I should use the customized presents for the display? So sorry that my English is not good and Sorry for all the questions and troubles.. Anyway again Thank you so much and have a nice day:)
1. Not much, you are calibrating each display individually for conformity to the color gamut spec. There may be some method for matching white point which will help a little but not much. The important question is for your dell what color mode do you have that set on? 2. I would. Follow this th-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/w-d-xo.html 3. You have to use the custom preset along with the custom icc. Right now I don't recommend calibrating the MBP yet because the matrix data is not updated for that display just yet. The result is ok but icc is much smaller. Hope this helps
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for your quick response! The color mode I set on is YPbPr. There is also RGB to choose from, but the display will be weirdly green when setting on RGB.
You can try RGB and then calibrate it. There's really nothing wrong win YPbPr as long as you can calibrate it. It is hard to know what sub sampling M1 is using with YPbPr output but I think it is adequate and nothing to loose sleep over.
Thank you very much for your instructive and clearly stated videos! I'm starting to get the hang of this after watching about 5 of them :) Is there a way to share with you a couple screenshots of the "Report"s made for each monitor. My MacBook Pro seems to be a bit high on the DeltaE although it is under 2. The selected display technology for the MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2018) is set to default of PFS Phosphor, not White LED as you had selected.
This is a better video for Mac th-cam.com/video/JrPdvs2by04/w-d-xo.html Sure you can send it over. You can add my Facebook page or instagram and message me. Or you can email me as well; address on the about section of my page.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much Art. I did ended up doing that. When I chose or ticked the option to do both, brightness and contrast manually (Calibrite Profiler) , there appears to be a glitch, while setrting contrast the app has fluctuations on the luminance, which makes it impossible to achieve the "green check" value, so I did set it at 50% and proceeded with the brighness manual adjustment, which worked fine. Now I got my 3 monitors properly calibrated, a Cintiq 24 Pro, a Dell Ultrasharp Ultrawide (curved) and an LG C2 42 Oled TV, they matched very nice, and a joy to work with.. Thanks again Art, you are an amazing teacher 🙏
I just did this on my new M chip mac laptop- weirdly the process using my older Colomunki, and the Studio CC application, made the screen look kinda warm- not sure if this is how it should be.. in comparision with the RGB 1998 profile it seems way warmer. hmm. I've now downloaded the i1studio application and hope this is the right app- quite confusing. I've already made several mistakes the first few times- leaving True Tone on, and the adjust brightness... sigh, 3rd time lucky i hope!
@@ArtIsRight Thanks so much for all your replies on my posts. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out why it was so much warmer and if I should trust it. Having my images warmer when working on them is one of the trials of my life always struggling against that. Haha because most gallery lights are warm too. But glad to know I can trust my color passport to white balance- that takes the guesswork out of everything even if my screen is somewhat untrustworthy. Will you let us know when it is safe to calibrate these retina m1 screens? I will sub. Thanks! Dana
HI thanks for this video I have just finished calibrating my LG34wk95c on a Mac Mini M1 everything went good ... jus to know how do I make sure the computer is using the file I have created when calibrating my display ?
Brand and model number of your display alone can be misleading. Because the operating system also generates a generic one As soon as you plug in the display
Thank you for the video. So helpful! I’m currently calibrating a PD2700U on its sRGB mode. Which tone curve should I use ? Standard or sRGB. I have slightly different results when comparing the gamuts. I’m using it for photo editing for internet/digital for now and later on for prints. (D65, gamma 2.2, still searching for my luminance). Thank you indeed.
Great Video. few questions. After I click okay on measurement successfully completed I notice a dramatic shift in colour and brightness in my screen is this normal? And after reference I click next but the start measurement is greyed out?
You should see changes after you save the profile but not before then. There's a bug in some version, are you running the latest Calibrite version? also what display, computer, etc.
I calibrated my Asus ProArt PA 329CV following your video. I used my I1pro2 spectro meter, and selected the DCI-P3 color mode pre-set on the Asus. My results are the following: Average ∆E all patches measured 1.3 Average ∆E of the lowest 90% measured 1.2 Average ∆E of the highest 10% measured 2.5 Maximum ∆E all patches measured 2.9 Maximum ∆E of the lowest 90% measured 2.2 Not sure if I selected the right color mode on the Asus but am I correct it doesn't matter which one I use? Or is it possible that other presets measure better? I'm a beginner and would love to start with making content. Thanks again!
It does not matter which one you choose. The software will conform to the display gamut. Resutls are for the most part good, the max values are much higher than I like it to be but that is also display dependent.
Thanks for the video. One question though. The new icc profile where is created on the monitor presets? When I finished the cibration should i choose custom preset or should I have it on before the calibration. Thanks in advance
The color mode that you set your display to before calibration, that is the color mode that the icc profile was made for don't change it. But if you calibrate in different color mode this will help for Win th-cam.com/video/bRSwd4x99ao/w-d-xo.html Mac video coming this Friday.
Fantastic video. I have a Dell HDR monitor and a LG OLED C1 attached to my workstation. The purpose of the OLED tv is to monitor video that I am editing in HDR. I want to know if I can save both profiles after calibration on my pc with x-rite Display Pro, or it's just able to control one monitor with the same profile if I am using just one NVIDIA video card (Titan RTX)
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for your reply. I wonder why the software doesn't show both monitors. It only shows the LG OLED TV. The only way I can see my Dell monitor is unplugging the TV. Could it be that my version only supports 1 monitor?
Software will only launch on 1 monitor. Once you start the calibration workflow, the first thing that you would choose is the display to calibrate. Click on the display and the program will snap to that display.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for your reply. I have seen tutorials on TH-cam that show with the more expensive version that you are offered the option to pick either monitor. I don't see both monitors. I wonder if the way they are plugged into the GPU has anything to do with it. Could it be I am only allowed to calibrate one monitor in this version of the hardware
Thank you so much for the video I managed to get my desktop PC done by this guide. But while I am trying to calibrate my windows laptop after calibration , when I click on Display QA its not working ,like the profile is there but its not getting detected by the software and it remains blanked out.
Excellent and very helpful video. One question. I work in a bright environment and need to have my screen brighter than 120 cd/m to see properly. Should I still be calibrate at 120cd/m? Thanks!
Hi Art, thank you again for a very informative video. I just downloaded Palette Master V1.3.17 and all my calibrations with this latest version have failed (I saw your video on this version too). So now im calibrating my SW2700 directly with my i1Display from Xrite. It shows better results and it doesn't fail. My question is where does this calibration go? When using PME, I can set if the calib to slot 1, 2 or 3. In this case, do I just use any slot and then open up the display adjustments on my mac and "tell" the BenQ to use the i1Display calibration setting? Thank you for your answer.
X-Rite will never fail on these displays. This is software calibration so you have to choose the color mode on the display before calibration. Either that or custom 1 or 2 if your display has that mode.
I am running the same version you are, but my i1profiler looks different than yours. Also I do not have the Display QA selection. How do I obtain the version from this video? By the way the instructions on calibration is the best I have seen.
Thank you, if you are running the same version you should see it. Just have to make sure that you are using the advanced mode. What you can also do at the home screen is to choose display or profile verification, it is the option below calibration on the top left of the dialog.
Hello there Art so the last part with a color 24 palette does that have to be done after doing the monitor calibration? or come that part be out? Thank you For those great tutorial
What does the software do if you cannot adjust brightness on your monitor? Also you had manually adjust brightness and contrast selected but no adjustment prompt for contrast was shown?
After you adjust the brightness for the calibration are you supposed to keep your display at that brightness moving forward since thats the brightness the colors were measured?
For these external displays yes it is best to keep them at the same brightness all the time. If you need to bring the brightness up you can, you just have to remember to come back into display and down the brightness down to the number / percentage that you have set it for a display calibration to get precise color
I find that I need to adjust my display brightness extremely low (~ 25%) in order to meet the 100 candela brightness). Was I supposed to adjust my contrast before my brightness check? My contrast was set to 100% on default.
You generally leave the contrast at default and the adjust the brightness and yes it will be low. These displays now are super bright and that is the issue.
You can't really do that for so many reason. And even if you can the color output won't be based on the PS5 but rather your PC. You need a neutral calibration software that is not based on a computer output such as CalMan with a pattern generator and a really good aka expensive color spectrophotometer or color radiometer.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for repond always. It is for a Samsung TV Q80T 50". It has a QLED display. I have seen that the RGB LED spectrum curve is very close to that the QLED spectrum. So, I put RGB LED in ccProfiler and the result is very nice. Thanks
Thank you Art. It really helpful. But one thing that I noticed is: i1 profiler doesn't show color gamut in percentage just like Datacolor, isn't it? I already own i1 Display pro and I'm really confused to read gamut result in 3D space. I prefer there's any percentage info.
Hello, thank you for the comprehensive video. I followed these exact steps on 2 monitors, a BenQ PD3200U and a AOC 2369VM and both of them started to change colour, like a flicker and then change back. This happens when I start Chrome for the first time after boot. Also, when I play videos the brightness changes when the subtitles appear on screen. It's weird, I couldn't find anything on the internet that would solve this issue. I thought maybe you know what makes this, or someone here has had this issue. Thanks a lot for your reply.
Flicker, I am not sure about this, what video card do you use. As far as chrome and after boot, it is the profile getting applied. Chrome does color manage and that is what you might be seeing. It would appear that this is not subtle or seem-less on your system as it should be. Video brightness change with sub title is normal in some circumstances especially when the text are not embedded in the video. Your display is overlaying the white text and because the screen uses single backlight source this is normal. Mini or Micro LED with local dimming will help with this or OLED but LED IPS Backlight panel, well this is the best that it will get for video. For what its worth, this is something common that I see on my iPad with playing movies with sub title.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for the response. It's not much of a flicker, more like a pulse of yellow hue and then it slowly goes back to normal colour. None of this has happened to me before I calibrated my two monitors. It could be a problem with Windows, for example, when I'm watching a TH-cam video and start up the calculator app in Windows, the video changes contrast. I realized then it was a problem with the transparency that Windows has on its apps, so I switched it off in settings and the problem disappeared! AND ALSO, videos on TH-cam look different in Chrome vs. Firefox! In Chrome, it has an added contrast which looks off, like I can see the clipping in dark areas. I recall, I haven't had these issues before calibration! Also, to answer your question I have a RX 480 8GB on my desktop at home (with the AOC monitor) and a RX 5500 XT at work (with the PD3200U monitor), both of them are AMD, so it could also be a problem with the graphics card drivers. I'm thinking if I should calibrate with a different tool, see if there's an issue with my i1 Display Pro Plus, or not. But then again, if it doesn't interfere with the colour accuracy of my photos ( I'm at the beginning of my studio photography business), I guess I can make it work. Thank your for your time answering these questions, I appreciate the feedback.
Yes problem is with transparency. As far as color in Chrome try disabling hardware acceleration to by pass the GPU, Firefox is the best for color management. Also chrome and Firefox use different rendering engines.I don't think that you hardware have issues, just the browser settings. Give this website a read cameratico.com/tools/web-browser-color-management-test/ it will help out too
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the info, it's really helpful to understand a bit about how color works on browsers and in general. Eventually, I did a fresh reinstall of windows and did a calibration without any video drivers installed and it seemed to have worked??? Anyways I know more about colour calibration that I did before all this and that's thanks to you.
@@ArtIsRight Art, here is one more question. The x-rite website says the i1 Display Pro is a discontinued product and i should get the upgrade from calibrite. They have the cc Profiler software. Is this the same as the i1 Profiler. Thanks for your time.
Thank you so much! This is super useful! But I wonder when the calibration is going on - does the program turn off the current .icc profile on the system and send a somewhat raw signal to the display, or does it operate under the current profile? I have my displays calibrated in the past but the colours went off recently so I bought an i1 Display Pro to calibrate them myself again. Do I need to remove the current profiles and bring them back to the default state or does the software do it on its own by testing some clean output? I'm going to calibrate 2 displays on a Windows machine as well as a MacBook and its external display so I wonder what would be the difference in this regard on the two operating systems.
@@ArtIsRight thank you! Everything went flawless, especially on Windows where I have two identical monitors and the image I see on both of them is identical. But I can't say the same about my MacBookAir M1 with an external display. Although the colours and brightness are very close, the contrast and darkness of the shadows are noticeably different. Why is that? All the calibration settings were the same. I saw lots of definitive settings for colours, gamma, and white point in the software but the Contrast is left unclear. Is there a reference or some measurement numbers which determine if the contrast is correct or not, so that I could set it identical for two different displays to see similar images as I did for the brightness? And another question - is there any way how to set the brightness of the MacBook in half a tick? In my case, brightness in the middle is 128 cd, which is too bright, and one tick below is 82 cd which is kinda dark... I would love to have it in the middle, but I don't know if macOS allows for a more precise brightness setting...
I just watched your video on matching displays so I basically got the answer for the contrast difference question, thank you. Though I'd like to know - is there some criteria that tell that one monitor has a correct contrast and another is worse - that could be measured by an i1 Display Pro e.g. so that the decision which display to keep as a reference was objective and not based on our eyes only.
This is why th-cam.com/video/NxTNSkxgVP8/w-d-xo.html it can't be done, glad you checked it out already. Not really you can look at the calibration and validation report and that will give you a good clue. In the end if you use higher end pro display just assume that with proper calibration external is going to be better than internal calibrated display.
If you don't save the profile then the calibration that you have done is useless without the profile. That is why you save it so that the OS and color aware program can use it.
Thank you so much for this info!!!!! i just ordered the PD27OOU monitor so i will use the same calibration settings like the (PD3220U) right? furthermore do i have to calibrate with sRGB mode on? I am not a professional photographer, i mostly record/mix music and lately i started editing videos in Davinci and do some photo editing etc mostly for web. (TH-cam, Facebook etc) thank you once more!!!!!! Finally if you offer a calibration guide step by step for my monitor only (or for a very similar one) i would love to buy it ;)
Yes the calibrate method is the same for most of the displays. I would probably calibrate it in Display P3 color mode this way you have access to the most color. Or if you spend a lot of time in DaVinci and you are on a PC then you should consider REC 709. And your OS or software would handle the majority color conversion via the CMM in the background in realtime.
@@ArtIsRight thank you so much 😊 for your time wow! I downloaded the PD2700U manual but I can’t really find this P3 color mode. Anyway I’m waiting for the monitor to come probably tomorrow so I’ll find this option somewhere in the osd menu.
Right the PD2700U does not have P3 color mode so you can use REC 709 color mode for calibration since you use Resolve. :) Or you can also try calibrating it this way too th-cam.com/video/kSGVS3pSxV8/w-d-xo.html either one will work.
Thanks for the detailed video. For some reason when I click on Display QA it says that there's no active profile for the display and I have no idea what's wrong or how to fix it. Would appreciate any suggestions.
That seem like the profile was not set properly in the system. I would give that a check firs and see if the profile show up in the OS or not. If it does, I would set it and then see what happens when you try to validate profile again.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the quick reply. The profiles for my two external display on Win 10 are already set after calibration. I can see that in Control Panel - Color Management. I've additionally set the same profiles in system defaults for both screens, but still the same error in QA section. Any other suggestions, or am I checking in the wrong place?
These profile for the 2 external display should not be the same. I'm not sure why QA does not work based on what you are telling me. The thing is, this would be a simple fix if I can see what is happening and inspect the system, but without seeing it, there's really not much that I can do beyond these basic pointers.
Art, Is it best to usb RGB manual control when possible? It’s do-able on my Dell monitor and I accidentally did not do it the first time, I re-did using the manual control.
@@ArtIsRight it did work, delta E went from .45 to .43 after using manual control. I re did it to make sure i was maximizing the accuracy. Thanks for the great videos Art!
I just followed this tutorial just 2 minutes ago... and what I'm missing that's not available on ccProfiler is the percentage of color gamut that the monitor covers. Or is it tucked away somewhere in the application? Thanks
It is not, that is Spyder and it is for the most part go to be aware of but a useless and in accurate matrix. ∆E which Spyder does not really do is more crucial and important.
Hi and thanks for the tutorial! My monitor does not pass thresholds 2 and 5 in the QA measurements, but it passes 3 and 8. The average of all patches is 2.1 and the maximum is 7.5. Hoverer, a year ago it passed. Is that normal? Are the results I have now still good for photo work? And one more question, my monitor has both controls for RGB: gain and offset, which one should I use? I think I can get better results by changing just the offset settings, but I'm not sure that's the right approach. Thanks!
This tell you that your display could start to go bad. Either this or it could be a sign of driver or OS issues. I would do A/B testing with another machine and see if the result is about the same, better or worse. ∆e of 2 is consider ok for pro photo, anything above 5 is no longer good. There's no one right way to set the display, my advice is choose the one that gives you the best calibration results. But without knowing more, it would seems like your display is starting to go.
@@ArtIsRight It's a shame if the display is starting to go bad, I only bought it 2 years ago. But I will experiment with calibration and gain/offset settings and hopefully I can get it to work. Thanks!
Hello Sir and thank you for the video! It has helped a ton. Just one question left- I have the same display. Before calibration I did a reset on my Benq. So I calibrated Benq in its Display P3 mode. Since I work in DaVinci Resolve I have to work in REC 709. I am a bit confused - can I just switch to REC709 mode through the meny of my Benq after the calibration process and I am ready to go? Thank you in advance!
Which BenQ do you have? If you have the SW you should be calibrating with Palette Master Element, if you have the PV then Palette Master. If you have the PD then yes you can use i1Profiler, if you editing your work in resolve and use REC 709, you should do a calibration in REC 709 color mode and notated in the profile name REC 709 this way you know which profile it is. So when you switch to REC 709 color mode on the display, what you will do is choose the corresponding profile in the color management dialog on either Mac or Win 10. You want to make sure that the programs are not running when you switch the profile. After the switch launch the program so that they can use the correct profile for rendering.
@@ArtIsRight Hi, can you please come back to this answer. For my BENQ PD3200U-T, im being told by Davinci editors to stay in REC709 at gamma 2.4. Woud that mean i have to switch on the display itself from USER/sRGB/DARKROOM/etc to REC709 ? Also, on your comment on "choose the corresponding profile in the color management dialog on either Mac or Win 10" - What is this exactly and where do I change it exactly in windows ?
Is the software bypassing the OS? Because if not then it would not be appropriate to use with a Clean Feed and I/O Card no? Also how would I do this on a monitor that saves these LUTs (.icc) on the monitor itself and not on the machine?
great video . anybody can explain for me . i have i1profiler device but my software is demo , can i buy just License or must to buy device with License togather ?
The device is the license, if it is showing in demo, it means that the software and by extension the system does not see the calibrator, recommend another USB port first and then go from there, also you might need to install X-Rite device services. Also Mac or pc?
Hey Art I hope you have time to answer this question. I am trying to run my I1 Profiler (Display Pro Plus) on my new MacBook M1 Max computer but I can't get the software to load. I keep getting "I1 Profiler quit unexpectedly" warning. Is there a compatibility issue? Your thoughts please. Thanks, -Bob
You can watch the quick guide here th-cam.com/video/bqF_SQWv8x0/w-d-xo.html but you should not try to calibrate these displays yet. Also are you running the latest i1Profiler software version. And when you set up your M1 did you restored from back up or time machine or set it up as a new machine?
Hi, I bought a new BenQ sw270c and an i1Display Pro calibration device. Can I skip the BenQ calibration process and go straight to the i1 Pro calibration? And: should I do the calibration while I have daylight in my work area?
Calibration time does not matter. The best result will come from using Palette Master Element with the SW270C because you are doing a true hardware calibration th-cam.com/video/9hVfwW9LK8E/w-d-xo.html
Hello, I have the Benq PD2725U with mac studio. I calibrated with calibrate color checker display pro. My question is when I am editing in photoshop and I clicked on the color settings tab under the working space in photoshop do I click the drop down box RGB: and make sure it is on the Benq icc that I calibrated too? I have the option to check Monitor RGB benq PD2725U-22-04-2023.icc is that what I make sure it says in photoshop? Also on color management profiles in that tab when I have the monitor RGB benq selected the RGB policy is off but it does let me click preserve embedded profiles for CMKY and gray?
"I clicked on the color settings tab under the working space in photoshop do I click the drop down box RGB: and make sure it is on the Benq icc that I calibrated too? :" Yes that is one way how you can do this. I would choose the ICC rather than the Monitor RGB for various reasons that I'll have to make a video about. "Also on color management profiles in that tab when I have the monitor RGB benq selected the RGB policy is off but it does let me click preserve embedded profiles for CMKY and gray?" This is one of the reasons why you don't want to choose monitor RGB. So just choose the icc and you are good to go
@@ArtIsRight thank you, I changed in photoshop under color settings tab. I now have the BenQPD2725U-4-22-23icc vs the monitor rgb benqpd2725u-4-22-23icc. that is very confusing that it has both options on the drop down in photoshop, so a video would be awesome. I just assumed since I have it changed on the apple studio under the settings that I didnt need to do anything in photoshop? so that is the disconnect. Not sure about lightroom. thanks
another question. so I did a basic color in lightroom since I have a few files. Now when importing into photoshop I am getting the warning: embedded profile mismatch. the 111.psd has the embedded color profile that does not match current rgb. embedded: srgbiec...working: benqpd2725icc. so if the monitor is calibrated will it be fine just to let it use the embedded srg from lightroom or do I need to click to use the benq icc? I need to supply SRGB to my labs, so that is why I use it. I know I can turn this warning off, but this is confusing on what I am actually seeing if I make changes in photoshop. Again, under the mac studio setting I have the benq icc selected. it's just throwing me off working in photoshop.
Choose the one that does not say Monitor profile. You can change the profile in PS but not in LRC. LRC / LR takes this information from the OS icc profile setting. Yes with this just use the embedded profile. Watch this, a crucial but not as well known concept th-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/w-d-xo.html
When I click display QA, it says no profile selected, even though I just had calibrated and hit save. New profile is also set as windows default when I checked too.
@@ArtIsRight I am having this issue as well, both after creating a profile, and also when attempting to QA from the homescreen. Windows is loading and shows the created ICC profile as the one being used by the system, ccProfiler does not detect it. Using a ColorChecker Display Pro. I followed your, "How to add, set and verify display icm (icc) profile in Windows 10!" video and all settings match the ones demonstrated in the video. Thanks Art!
Hi I just bought the calibrite display pro for my color grading work to deliver for web. But I didnt realize that I dont have the option to change the BT1886 until I bought it. Is it fine to leave it as standard(default) or should I change it to SRGB?
I would use gamma 2.4 if you want something closer to BT1886. The plus version has BT1886. But talking to many color expert friends of mine G2.4 is close enough.
@ArtIsRight Hi I'm am very curious and interested in learning more! What would be a good course to learn from to get good at using this software? Do you offer one? @art
What specifically do you want to know more about. Most of the setting is straight forward, any other setting that you can choose won't improve the result much. The only think that it may do is offer a different or a variety calibration, but that should not be done or taken lightly unless you need it.
Hello ! Thank you for the video . can i do Calibrate with color checker display pro Device Luminance 120 cd/m2 for video and Photography ? can i get good colour for these proposes ? is it same instruction as your video to Calibrate BenQ PD3220U with color checker display pro Device ? ( i am using colorchecker Display Pro )
@@ArtIsRight Hello ! i did Calibrate it showed me all Pass ( Result ) but Trending line did not appear ( White Trending Line ). I did turn off M1 Macbook pro as your Videos Instruction ( macOS Display Settings Preferences to turn off before Calibration ) i did with Colour Profil - Display P3 in Macbook Pro M1 . Do i have to set up some function im M1 Macbook pro or BenQ PD3220 U get right Result to appear white Trending Line ? Thank you for great videos information .
You don't link them per say. Watch this for PS th-cam.com/video/4fEzUMCwZyo/w-d-xo.html and this for LRC th-cam.com/video/MpB75oJzcNM/w-d-xo.html the idea is to print with profile for the paper + printer combo.
@@ArtIsRight thanks! I guess I should have said I’m looking for press printing research. My colorist trainer ghosted me so my job is very hard right now. I was able to grab info from your videos though.
Regarding backlight opcion, I have readed in DisplayCAL forums that for displays with around 90-95% of DCI-P3 is better to use "PFS Phosphor" option. That people say that "White Led" is ok for sRGB displays not Wide Color Gamut. Is all this correct? Thank you.
To me that sounds like an opinion more than fact. In general, the recommendation is to match the backlight option with the display back light tech especially if you are using OEM software. As for if display cal get a better calibration that way, I am unable to comment on it. This is a good guide and I would recommend sticking to your display tech, unless there're justifiable reasons to choose otherwise.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks. My intention is not to leave ccProfiler. It is the official software of the brand and it works very well for me. In fact, I have calibrated the monitor as you do in the video. It so happens that I have the same monitor and calibrator. And everything has been perfect. Thank you very much.
I have just recently got a BenQ PD2700Q 100% sRGB monitor. 2560x1440, contrast 100:1, brightness of 350. Q1. What does the calibration report that came with the monitor mean, Does this mean it is a hardware calibrated monitor? Q2. What about Windows HD colour settings, not sure which version you have but going through windows settings - system - display - Windows HD colour settings, it comes up with a screen that says: Display capabilities : Stream HDR video No Use HDR No Use WCG apps No Q3. Does this mean windows doesn't support WCG apps like Lightroom? And hence you cant see all the colours because of the OS colour management system. Q4. Is windows ultimately in charge of what colours can be shown on my monitor or does x rite override these settings.
1. Calibration report is a health card on the quality of your panel, nothing to do with your use or color that you can get because you computer videocard, OS, software, and drivers are all influencing the output. This might give you some insight as well th-cam.com/video/TObByJau2EE/w-d-xo.html 2. You are good nothing to change there and nothing to worry about. The display that you have is not HDR capable but that is really a great thing because HDR on computer displays beside Apple Build in displays are a pain to deal with. 3. No HDR is not WCG and they are not the same thing. Your display is wide color gamut and windows can use that. 4. Windows is in charge most of the time, X-Rite generate a file, icc profile, that windows use to display the correct color.
Hi art, I have a question. For some reason, after I done my calibration through CCprofiler, I can't use the dislay QA function. Saying that I don't have an active profile. But that profile is just installed after the calibration. Does renaming the profile helps?
Yeah there's a bug going on. So what you have to do is check to make sure the correct profile is used and then launch i1profiler / cc profiler again and then do a validation then.
Contact Calibrite support for help on this. I am not sure what is going on, too many variables. I would just make sure that screen saver and turn display offer after a period of time is not turned on.
hi Art. didnt understand about the average deltra threshold. u edit it to min 2 and max 50. i thought that was the result after calibrating. when u change the figure the result below still the same. can u clarify pls. thanks heaps.
That is adjusting the pass / fail threshold, it has nothing to do with the actual achieve ∆e results. It just tells the program to report pass or fail. ∆e below 2 is what you want to strive for.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for the reply. i just bought the calibrite display plus and just want to setup my monitor for photography. its a so so monitor. if i get more cash i might buy a benq or eizo.:-) thanks heaps.
I am using the X-Rite i1Display Pro but I am only seeing three menus: "Display settings, Measurement and ICC-Profile" It is not possible for me to open Display QA?
@@ArtIsRight hello there, thanks for the great video! and if it doesn't bother you, I just have one question regarding the versions - if I use both MacOS and Windows on the same display, can I just use the same v2 profile for both or is it better to create separated v4 for MacOS and v2 for Windows? and also is it better to calibrate in the darkest room possible or it doesn't matter as long as no direct light is coming to the screen?
Hello Art. I have calibrated my monitor using X-Rite i1 and DispalyCal. Every time I start Windows the DisplayCal Profile Loader will automatically load icc into OS. I understand color management needs OS and software working togerther to display correct color. Some software does not support color management at all, other software (like Firefox) needs special settings to display correctly. I want to know if I need to set up my Lightroom, Bridge, and Photoshop as well? Or will these Adobe software automatically load icc profile from OS? I have heard so many different voices, and I know Art will be right. Thank you!
Lightroom and to some extent bridge you don't really have to set the icc and this would include PS as well. However, in PS, you can set the preferred color space the you want to use. This principle applies th-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/w-d-xo.html
I have a Asus ProArt278QV display. I'm using the same device as in the video to calibrate the monitor. But I always get a 'fail' report. The deltaE off all patches is 7.3. The calibrating report from the factory says that the deltaE of this monitor is below 1.0 What am I doing wrong?
Great question. That ∆e is high. What color mode are you setting the display to? I would probably recommend that you set it User Mode 1 or 2 and then do the custom RGB calibration adjustment like I showed here th-cam.com/video/kSGVS3pSxV8/w-d-xo.html also what are some other settings you are using, white point, luminance, gamma, contrast, etc.
Hi Art, I have downloaded Palette Mater Element for calibrate my SW270C. It can't verify i!Display Pro Plus, and before this model I had bought spider, which i sobstituted with the xrite thinking it was a calibrator issue, but now i have the same problem with xrite and can't work. What can I do? Is ok to use 1!Profiler for my monitor? thank you regards Fede
You can but you are not getting the most out fo the display. There's are underlying software issues with validation failure and most of the time it is not hardware related. If you could Please answers these questions completely, we may have a solution that is workable. Also if you are on Mac and running Catalina 10.15.4 or higher, disable HDR, that will cause validation failure too. 1. What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc ) 2. What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number) 3. What calibrator are using? 4. What version of PME are you using? 5. What BenQ model do you have? 6. What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc. 7. If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display? 8. If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise? 9. For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver? 10. Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point 11. For SW2700PT owner, look at the back of your display on the regular tag and give me the MFG date.
Thank you for this video. I am receiving my PD2700U today. I know that the monitor is factory calibrated for the sRGB picture mode. I want to calibrate the monitor with my i1Display Pro using i1profiler software in the User picture mode so I can compare the colors to the sRGB factory calibration. My question is that in windows 10 the created .icm monitor profile will be automatically loaded by i1Profiler when Windows starts. If I select the sRGB picture mode on the monitor instead of User picture mode after the calibration has been done, how is the loaded .icm i1Profiler profile treated? Will the .icm profile need to be unloaded in Windoes when the the sRGB picture mode is selected on the PD2700U? In other words, how are these 2 picture modes used after a User mode calibration has been performed?
icm profile are automatically loaded when windows loaded. You would have to choose the color mode on the display that corresponds to the correct icm profile. i.e. the color mode that you have done the calibration with. As far as using a profile that does not match the color mode, every will work it is just that you won't get a matching profile and color output will be off slightly. Visually this may not be noticeable but the values will be off. Based on my testing just calibrate the display in sRGB color mode and use that icm profile.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you Art, very clear answer. If I were to calibrate the display in user mode, wouldn't that leave the sRGB picture mode unchanged from the original factory calibration and allow me to easily jump back and forth between the custom calibration and the factory calibration to decide which I liked best?
You can do that but when you switch between them one of the since i.e. user mode.icm is calibrate under user mode. when you switch to sRGB and if keep the user mode.icm the color won't be as accurate because it was calibrate in the other color mode.
@@ArtIsRight Final question please Art, and thanks again for your help. I will be using Davinci Resolve 16 on the PD2700U for grading Gopro videos. Resolve's default input color space, timeline color space and output color space are all Rec.709 Gamma 2.4. Should I select the Rec.709 color mode on my display to match Resolve's color management settings or leave it in the the default sRGB color mode? Which option would be most likely to match the output when viewed on my TV?
So if you are using Resolve, then I would set the display to REC 709 and calibrate it in REC 709 and go with that. Otherwise you would not be able to get an accurate REC 709.
Dear ArtisRight, I have a question please. When I do and measure the calibration on the window where we can see the average delta results and also the maximum, to the right there are a couple of colours. In my case the cheap monitor for everyday use gave me and average of 0.8 (all patches) and a maximum of 4.9 (all patches). The colours on the right like I was referring to above have highlighted two colours and I would say the black and some sort of blue light right next to the black with delta values of 2.495 and 4.926 respectively. Now the question is: I will have to be careful if I am using the colour that gave 4.926 or this will affect the whole image despite of we have or not that colour in particular? TiA
what the delta e value describe is the amount that color is off from reference, ideally you want that value for all of the patches to be below 2 but 5 will be ok in this case too. Yes I would be careful when you are looking at an image with that color but otherwise you should be ok. If you can get the average delta e of less than 5 you are good to go.
@@ArtIsRight thank you for your time in answering to these questions. Well, the MacBook Pro gave a maximum delta E o 1.0 and the regular office monitor gave a maximum delta E of 3.0 for this sort of strange colour looks like dark turquoise colour. In the other office monitor it gave a maximum delta E of 5. Now I have another question. I have calibrated this at night with one light on. Shall I also calibrate this during day time and have two profiles? Will the calibration numbers change? Thanks
If you run 2 calibration the number will change slightly but not by much. It is one of those things where at the time of measurement the conditions (internal) on the display are not precisely the same. I would just stick with the calibration that you have. And not worry about having 2 profiles.
@@ArtIsRight thanks. Very helpful. And since we are talking about calibration let me ask you something else. If you are calibrating a laptop that it isn't a macbook and using a third party DisplayCal software, it asks yo to measure the white point. For that you need to adjust the RGB channels. Can I ask you something about this? TIA
Most laptop displays does not have native RGB controls, if you have them they are via software, to which precision is depend on the software that you use to adjust it. I would just stick with i1Profiler in this case.
I have an LG 27UL650 and I calibrated the monitor but it is failing the last portion with flying colors. Do you have any suggestions on how to address this?
what do you mean exactly by failing the last portion with flying colors? Which portion exactly, the calibration or validation part? If validation what is your ∆E average and max?
Yes that is really high. There are things that you can do to trouble shoot starting with the connection cable and going from there to os, driver, display itself etc.
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Thanks so much for your videos. Massive help for those of us who care about having a calibrated screen, but have no idea how to really do it properly.
Thank you!
I come back to this video every month to recalibrate
Nice!
Hi there!
I noticed that saving the profile on "Profile Distribution" I can just save for my user enabling "User Level" but it won't appear in all the users if you are not the Admin. Actually "Save Profile" will be disabled and won't let you save. Excellent series of videos! You nailed it!
Lots of granularity with profile distribution setting, regarding the user or now, it really does not matter since where these profile are stored is in the System 32 folder and that is not under any specific user folder. And thank you!
Brilliant video indeed, has never let me down. Just calibrated my new iMac to perfection! Thanks Art!
Great to hear!
Great video and very clear explaination, the only thing I didn't like about this software is that unlike DisplayCal it doesn't provide you with exact information about how much of a color space is being properly covered after calibration (e.g. Rec.709:100% or P3: 96%)
Thanks. The information that you have about color gamut coverage percentage is never really accurate, which is why this software avoid this all together.
Thank-you so much for this. I found this video to be extremely clear and helpful and I'm really happy with the results of the calibration on my BenQ PV270. Great work
Nice!
@@ArtIsRight I thought you said that PD monitors cannot do hardware calibration with external calibrator (like spider pro). At least that’s what I think you mean by hardware calibration. If so how is it that you were able to use the hardware device on the screen to calibrate it if it can only do software calibration. Please answer as this determines the monitor I plan to buy.
Thank you very much for well presented and easy to follow instructions!
You're welcome!
One of the most best tutorial video.
I followed every step of your video trying to calibrate a 2019 retina MacBook Pro. One question: Does this mean that, once the monitor is calibrated, I absolutely no longer have to touch my Mac's brightness control? Tks by an Italian fan
You can leave it as is and don't adjust it. :)
Thank you Art for the video. I'd love to see a more expanded video around luminance and overall color matching for photo printing and video editing. When I first started using the i1Profiler a few years back, I started with 120 cd/m2 default value. It was certainly a huge departure from the default factory brightness of my monitor (I needed to get down to 22 out of 100 on my Acer BM320). The colors were certainly lot more accurate based on Delta E quality check, but though noticeably improved, I couldn't achieve what I'd qualify as very good print matching. First, the brightness of the monitor was too low vs. the prints, and the colors were sometimes either warmer or cooler on the prints. I'm sure the quality of the printing services I was using was one factor. The other I realized was my print viewing environment, the ambient lighting around my monitor, etc. Through some trial and error, I've been able to achieve a satisfactory print matching based on calibrating for D65 & 160 cd/m2. I noticed that the luminance of 160 cd/m2 had a note in the i1Profiler that it's based on ISO 3664 P2, which I learned to be a Print Viewing standard, with 500 lux viewing condition. For the monitor, I setup D65 ambient lighting around my monitor (fairly dim to only provide some eye relief), and for viewing prints, I got a print viewing lamp with high CRI, and set the temp to D50 equivalent and at 500 lux. And I got the level of print matching I hadn't been able to achieve before. There was some "logic" to my approach, but I don't have a grasp of the overall theory, so it was more of a dumb luck and piecing together tidbits of information from various online sources (which we know how "reliable" they can be). Any video that could provide some wisdom on the overall color matching would be great, just an idea ;)
You're welcome. I'll consider those.
Excellent video! You explained and demonstrated everything really clearly!
Thank you!
Thank you so much for the in depth guide !
:)
Thank you Art! I performed the advanced color calibration for the first time--previously I had used the Basic. I performed the calibration as I followed along with your tutorial. Great job, keep up the good work!
Glad it helped!
Hello Art. Thank you very much for your support and the video. It was so helpful! One question I do have though. When calibration ist done exactly how you showed (Apple Studio with the PD3220U) . How do I use my setting correctly? In the system references, I got the right profile now. Do I have to put my setting on the hotkey puck to -> «color», «color mode», to «user»? Just want to make sure, that the screen really shows the colors with the profile I set up. Thank you very much!
You should choose the color mode before calibrating. If you haven't made any changes on your display, you are probably using P3 at the moment. Leave it, you are fine. If you want to use another color mode, set that first and then run the calibration.
Mac: th-cam.com/video/03an7iyhvbQ/w-d-xo.html
Win: th-cam.com/video/bRSwd4x99ao/w-d-xo.html
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for the fast support! Everything works perfectly fine now! Very thankful for your channel.
Hi Art, Great video as all of yours are!
Not sure this is the right video to ask this question. Maybe you answer it somewhere else. I have calibrated several different monitors including my XPS15 laptop. On the left side of the Display Settings screen there is a Assets box, with various sub-listings... Display Settings, Profile Settings, Patch Sets, Measurements, ICC Profiles, Saved Workflows. I can see all my saved ICC Profiles there and other listings.
-- How/when are each of these sub-listings to be used by me? You did not run the Display/Quality (on software home page) in this video, but how to use these Assets after running the Quality Check?
-- What should I do (or not do) regarding the assets when doing the Quality Check? What video is best for showing the Quality Check operation/review?
I hope you can help me 'put it all together' for my clearer Assets understanding.
BTW, Quality Check is now working with the last CCProfiler update on my laptop. So I uninstalled i1Profiler software, and exclusively use CC Profiler.
Many thanks for all your videos and great responses to user questions!
Roger
What you see on the left is a repeat of what you see in the bottom workflow part. If you have a custom calibration save at each stage of the process then you can simply choose the preset that you made and those will load all of the setting that you have setup. I personally have not used this as much as I have done calibration and that is a lot. I just ran more than 10 calibration in the past few hours. So unless you have varying specific need I would not worry too much about this.
I would just run display QA after the calibration. This ∆e explain video will give you a good idea of how to read the QA data th-cam.com/video/YzkOjL9JUJU/w-d-xo.html
ccProfiler QA has always worked but it does crash sometime, at least until this update. These 2 software are practically the same back end with logo change and some minor variations for device support. Hope this helps. Please feel free to follow up.
Great job. Thank you. Very clear and concise.
Glad it was helpful!
I can't thank you enough! Great video and easy to follow,
You're welcome!
Great videos thank you. The process I followed went well until I got to the "Display QA" and it was greyed out and couldn't finish the process. Any suggestions on why it is greyed out and how to go around it?. I am using the old I1Display Pro photographer kit. Thank you
I'm not sure why that is the case on yours, I need more info. What you can do, however, is start a validation process separately from the main screen, I would give that a try.
Hello Art, thank you for all your very informative videos! I have hard time doing hardware calibration of my ViewSonic VP2785-2K using Calibrite Display Plus - older Colorbration software often is not able to connect to the colorimeter or monitor (it doesn't specify to which of them) and newer Colorbration+ software often crashes while loading. Currently they both' wont work, and I am not able to perform hardware calibration. Even when they work, the newer Colorbration+ gives terrible result with too much blacks, while the older Colorbration doesn't have so much blacks, but still a black to white gradient is not purely neutral with some faint red overall cast, and also some local stripes with greener or more red tint. I have tried only the newer Calibrite Profiler software, but from this video I see that the older i1 Profiler looks exactly the same as the older ViewSonic Colorbration Software. I guess, older Colorbration version was a rebranded i1 Profiler with some functionality stripped down, so that's why it might be not so stable, if it didn't follow up with the actual releases of i1 Profiler?
They are technically all made by X-Rite. i1Display Pro Plus is the same as Calibrite ColorChecker Display Plus. The thing is that you can use ColorChecker Profilier from Calibrite to with your i1Display Pro Plus device. If you want to use Calibrate Profilier you would have to pay a $9.99 one time upgrade fee. It has to do with the device license. Anyhow, I sadden you are running into these issue, in general, I don't recommend ViewSonic Pro or Asus ProArt because of the inadequate calibration capability of their software. What you can do for the time being is use ColorChecker Profilier, follow this guide and see if you can get it to work. The device should work with Calibrite software just fine. I would check and make sure that view sonic software is not running in the background preventing the device from working properly. If you have any further questions dm me on fb page or insta and we'll go from there. There may be a lot of back and forth which is why I recommend dm.
@@ArtIsRight Hello Art! Thank you for replying! Apologies for following up so late on this topic, but for a long time I had the far more important task of parenting of a newborn son, and now it is the first occasion I can get back to this topic. If I use Calibrite Profiler or ColorChecker Profiler, will I be able to perform a hardware calibration? My understanding is that only the monitor manufacturer's own software is able to perform hardware calibration. Is that correct, or am I missing something?
Thank you very much for a very useful video! The only I didn't get was the very end where you compare profiles visually. Where do I find this "Mac os 10 color sync utility launch" at a PC?
Nothing equivalent on a PC
Exellect video! Do I understand correctly, that during calibration, if I adjust the brightness of the display to match the quality indicator, I should keep the same brightness value when I'm later color grading? Thank you!
Yes, correct
Hey, Art! Thanks for the videos. This one in particular was useful and I've watched several others while looking to buy a new monitor. I recently received my BenQ EW3280U monitor and I love it. However, I would like to calibrate it for use with my laptop to do some photo editing. I am not a professional photographer, but still like to print out my images for personal use and as gifts. I typically use online print services for this and most of them use sRGB. In addition, I will be using the monitor for gaming and movie watching. For the size and price, an entertainment monitor seemed to fit my budget and needs better than a professional photographer or designers monitor. I would like to ensure the monitor is calibrated for use with my laptop, but the problem is I'm not sure what color mode to put it in. The specs for the monitor say it will do 95% DCI-P3, which is very close to the sRGB space, but there is no specific DCI-P3 mode. My options are Low Blue Light, Rec.709, Color Weakness, M-book, Standard and User. I had expected to see a DCI-P3 mode. Would this be the Standard and is that what I should be using when I create a color profile on my laptop? I know any HDR setting needs to be turned off on both the laptop and the monitor. Thanks in advance!
@Brandon Porter, great question, this this case I would use Standard. Also another mode that you might consider using is Uses, in that mode you can adjust the RGB gained manually, and if you choose this mode you would have to check the RGB adjustment in i1Profiler as well.
New subscriber here. Great videos! I'm still waiting to order my new PD3220U display, but I saw a comment somewhere from BenQ there is a panel shortage due to COVID19. Not sure when I'll get one but, when I DO eventually catch them back in stock, I intend to go through this process. I just picked up the X-Rite i1Display Pro and will probably test it out on my two Asus PB278Q monitors to practice while I'm waiting for the BenQ to come back in stock. My primary point of confusion is how to prep the monitor before calibration. Should I do a factory reset of all settings? Do I need to disable any type of automatic adjustments (things like black enhancers, etc). Should I set to Warm, Cool or Normal? Should I do this at night in a dark room to ensure best accuracy? Lastly, should I remove/disable any current ICC profiles I'm using in Windows 10? Any advice you can provide on monitor prep (other than the 30 min warm up time) will be appreciated. Sorry for all the questions and I apologize if I missed the answers in one of your other videos. If you answered these questions in a prior video, please let me know which one and I'll watch it. Thanks again!
Thank you, no you don't need to do a factory reset, I'm sure you have not change that much settings. About preparing the OS for Win watch this th-cam.com/video/TP4oMLnJNiE/w-d-xo.html for mac watch this th-cam.com/video/hDHBodulVbw/w-d-xo.html About the color, I would set it to normal or better yet there should be a mode where you can choose the temperature, if you can choose D65 or 6500K. You don't have to do this at night in a darkroom, I may or may not have mentioned in this video that you don't have to calibrate in the dark because the calibrate opening have a felt lining that prevents light from going in. Just as long as it stays flat on the display you are ok. You don't need to set any icc before hand watch this video for the answer why th-cam.com/video/Yvu-sgddna0/w-d-xo.html No need to apologize. There's lots of resources and can be hard to find.
@@ArtIsRight Awesome! Thank you for the additional details!
You're welcome.
Hey there, thank you for the tutorial, it helped a lot to calibrate my ROG monitors. I have a question of how I can use my Colorchecker Display Pro for LED or OLED TV's, understandably they do not have color profiles you can save or install as on the PC or a Mac. How I can do this manually using an external laptop and this device? Maybe tutorial of some sorts could help? Thank you!
In short you can't or not really well it comes to TV. You are correct that you can't really install a profile on the TV. However, some of the high end model have calibration mode and a adjustable LUT. But it is not as simple as just putting a calibrator on the display. They are generally only compatible with the high end - pro calibration software such as CalMan and you have to use a pro color radiometer and a pattern generator to start. It is complicated and too costly.
this is just too awesome! thanks Art!
Thank you.
Amazing video helped me so much! My question is how do I access the different calibrationprofiles I have made? Every time I’m in cc profiler I can’t see them in the folder I saved them in. If I’m outside cc profiler I can see them but cannot open them?
You would do that through your system. In Mac system preferences - display and choose the display. In PC, display preferences you'll see a place to choose an icc profile
Great video! Perhaps I'm the only one. But I was really struggling getting accurate results, even while following this Demo. The Delta E's kept fluctuating between 2 to even above 20. After awhile I discovered that an application that I'm using to control the brightness of my external screen, Lunar, kept changing the colours of my display. After quiting Lunar I get delta E's below 2 on my Dell U2723QE. This took me a lot of troubleshooting. Maybe this comment can be of any help for others having similar issues in combination with Lunar.
There are videos guides on settings to turn off before calibration. And I don't usually recommend installing any 3rd party software that effects displays. However, I am glad that you figured this out and it is good to know. I don't feel that many users out there are using Lunar, but some probably do. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for this video, I’d be lost without you. I calibrated my brand new BenQ PD2725U and in the Display QA my numbers were off but it passed,so I recalibrated and “remeasured” and now it says it failed. What should I do?
dm me on Facebook page or insta and we'll go from there.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks so much!
Thank you, It is a very detailed and informative video on colour calibration for monitors. I want to understand the difference in gamma values to be used for different colour profiles while using Photoshop.
1. I use prophoto rgb gamut and 1.8 as the value of gamma. Do i have to use gamma value of 1.8 when calibrating my PC display.
2. Post calibration the colour profile which is saved can it be used in Photoshop with the gamma value set to the same as used while calibrating the screen.
The gamma for both Mac and PC is 2.2 you can calibrate at other gamma but that will change your image outcome. It is best to stick to the gamma that most devices use which is 2.2. About profile, you can use that in PS. Gamma control is a function of the display and profile, PS does not change this.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for your quick response. So even if i use Prophoto RGB profile which is the widest color gamut available in photoshop, the gamma value will be 1.8 but while calibrating the gamma value in i1 xrite deeply should be 2.2..if i have understood it correctly.
How do i save my images for prints consistent results. I mean in what format and size in photoshop.
the result of my display is max delta of 1.1 and average delta of .55
Not sure where you are getting Gamma 1.8 from. If the calibration gamma is 2.2 you will be seeing 2.2 not 1.8. As I said PS does not have a setting that control the display directly to change the output. However, it does have soft proofing but that feature does not change the display gamma, unless the profile that you are using for proofing was done at gamma 1.8. But if you want everything to look good just stick with the standard 2.2 gamma. And yes your calibration results looks fine.
I have watched several of your videos. They are clear, well organized and explain the reasons behind what you say.
--- I am first time using my Colorchecker Display Plus/CCProfiler and followed this video. Is this the best video for the Display Plus?
I have Win 11 laptop and have successfully profiled my LG external monitor and saved the .icm profile. In Control Panel color settings I can see the named profile.
--- I am now trying to run Display Quality on CCchecker home page, but it shows "No active profile". How to get this to show up in CCProfiler?
Thanks for your help!
Thank you! The program for the most part is the same with some minor GUI changes. But this is still the best video until I film an updated video. About the ICM profile. This is an issue in Windows 11 right now where the ICM profile is not assigned or handed off to the program correctly which is why you are running into the issue. Let me see what I can find out. But for now I would make sure that the ICM profile that you created is selected in the display setting. Another thing that you can do as well is download i1Profiler from X-Rite and use it with your device. They will work just fine. I know that X-Rite just update their software to a newer version with Windows 11 bug fix. Give that a go and let me know.
@@ArtIsRight The work around (for the "No active profile error in CCProfiler with Win11) works fine. I Downloaded/installed/updated the i1 profiler software. I did the profiling again and then the Quality and Uniformity. I am happy that after calibration my
Those square just shows what is supposed to look like vs what it captures, don't look too much into it. They are more visual representations than any thing critical. You can hover over the color and it will give you the delta e value for the specific box / color or you can just export the report which aggregate everything together in 1 HTML doc.
@@ArtIsRight The above No active profile workaround did not work for Display Quality with the internal display of my Win11 laptop. I can switch the screen to the external display and the profile shows. Then go back to the laptop and no active profile. But the profile shows in the Settings Color Management dialogue box.
-- Any other ideas for running Display Quality? (Except revert to Win 10!) Of course I know the display was profiled, it is just the quality checking.
-- BTW, should the i1Profiler be showing a countdown 27 days left timer?
Many thanks for helping me through.
This could be a Windows 11 related bug. I would email Calibrite tech support and see what they say. i1Profiler should not be showing a count down but I might remind you to register the device in 27 days, which you can just click out of.
Thanks a lot for this!
I have a 4K 27" Acer ConceptD CM3271K and Calibrite i1Display Plus for calibration.
I can select User mode with "general" color space (which color space is this?), sRGB mode, AdobeRGB, HDR, Standard, Gaming, etc...
I see that the possibilities using the Acer Color Calibrator software are really limited so I have used the X-Rite ccProfiler instead.
How do you deal with different modes and the calibration? Should different calibration be performed and different icc profiles generated for different modes?
I am willing to use sRGB color space for web, AdobeRGB for editing pictures, BT2020 for HLG and Rec709 for video.
Thanks for clarifying!
if you can choose Adobe RGB, choose that. And yes you can have an icc profile for each color mode but to be honest it is not worth the time. Just stick with Adobe RGB for everything. Side note you can't do BT2020 calibration at the point, no software understand this gamut. And you can do REC 709 for video, but again too much effort because of this one simple thing th-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/w-d-xo.html
@@ArtIsRight thanks! I will check more of your videos. They are incredibly valuable for me as beginner! Just another question: I've got the plus because of the possibility to use gamma 1886. So would you recommend to do one calibration with AdobeRGB and gamma 2.2 for photography and a second one using Rec709 and gamma 1886 for video editing? Do you have more info about gamma 1886 vs 2.2?
So if you do both type of creative work it is not a bad idea to calibrate for the 2 settings. Gamma 2.2 for photo is linear and fix. Whereas BT 1886 is a logarithmic curve that changes on the scale. So video is better with that.
Thanks for the video it did clear a lot of things I had. I got 2/3 questions though if you don't mind.
1. Is it okay to set a higher luminance than 100-120cd/m2? I'm going to use my monitor for general stuff (web/watching video/gaming/work). So I can just set the brightness to my comfort where the monitor is displayed?
2. This one is kinda 2 questions in 1. I bought the x-rite display pro plus, so I have the BT1886 option, do I need to set it to that? Or sRGB considering that I want vibrant/accurate colours but not using it for printing photos or professional photography editing but for surfing through the web watching movies and doing work stuff?
2.1 And for the gamma is it fine if I leave it to 2.2? I saw an option on another calibrator software that let you select srgb instead of 2.2 which is roughly the same but the srgb line curve makes the dark appear lighter.
So I hate it when my colours are darker or lighter than usual. That is the reason why I bought a calibrator. I'm not going to use it for photo editing or professional printing/editing stuff. I just want my colours to look vibrant and correct when surfing through the web, watching a movie and doing my stuff for work.
1. yes, the range is just a suggestion but works universally throughout and for all uses even for web and video, but if you prefer more just calibrate with more.
2. BT1886 is really used for color grading and video work. You can calibrate it to that if you do video work. BT1886 is a logarithmic gamma curve rather than a linear one and is totally different from color gamut which is sRGB. Normal BT1886 is used with REC709. For content consumption, you'll won't see that much benefit and it is easier to keep it simple and not over think it.
3. See answer above gamma and gamut are not the same. sRGB gamut choose 2.2 that is standard for photo editing.
Hello Art, thank so much for these tutorials. You bring so much information and make things easier to follow. I was wondering whether I could use this method to calibrate my panasonic st60 plasma TV. It is connected with an HDMI cable to the pc which serves as a home theater pc. Are TVs hardware calibrated or can I use Software? And being a self emissive display should I use different settings? Thanks again.
Yes you can. TV are software calibration for the most part and as long as your input source is a computer then you are good with this type of calibration!
Hi Arts! Thank you so much for your videos! They helped me a lot but I still got some questions:
1. I calibrated Macbook pro M1 Max with iProfiler Pro according to your method (PFS native), which came out great! However I also calibrated an external display(DELL S2721DGF) but it came out more red compared to Macbook pro. I was wondering if there is any solutions to make the displays more similar?
2. In photoshop, should I need to change the colorsetting to the new ICC I made for the Dell Display which is my main display?
3. For MacBook pro, is it correct that if I use the new icc for Current Profile in ColorSync, I should use the customized presents for the display?
So sorry that my English is not good and Sorry for all the questions and troubles..
Anyway again Thank you so much and have a nice day:)
1. Not much, you are calibrating each display individually for conformity to the color gamut spec. There may be some method for matching white point which will help a little but not much. The important question is for your dell what color mode do you have that set on?
2. I would. Follow this th-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/w-d-xo.html
3. You have to use the custom preset along with the custom icc. Right now I don't recommend calibrating the MBP yet because the matrix data is not updated for that display just yet. The result is ok but icc is much smaller.
Hope this helps
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for your quick response! The color mode I set on is YPbPr. There is also RGB to choose from, but the display will be weirdly green when setting on RGB.
You can try RGB and then calibrate it. There's really nothing wrong win YPbPr as long as you can calibrate it. It is hard to know what sub sampling M1 is using with YPbPr output but I think it is adequate and nothing to loose sleep over.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for the suggestion, it's very helpful:)
Thank you very much for your instructive and clearly stated videos! I'm starting to get the hang of this after watching about 5 of them :) Is there a way to share with you a couple screenshots of the "Report"s made for each monitor. My MacBook Pro seems to be a bit high on the DeltaE although it is under 2. The selected display technology for the MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2018) is set to default of PFS Phosphor, not White LED as you had selected.
This is a better video for Mac th-cam.com/video/JrPdvs2by04/w-d-xo.html Sure you can send it over. You can add my Facebook page or instagram and message me. Or you can email me as well; address on the about section of my page.
Excelent as always, one question, the contrast, what level should your contrast be before running the app? Txs!
I usually leave it at factory default which is usually around 50%
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much Art. I did ended up doing that. When I chose or ticked the option to do both, brightness and contrast manually (Calibrite Profiler) , there appears to be a glitch, while setrting contrast the app has fluctuations on the luminance, which makes it impossible to achieve the "green check" value, so I did set it at 50% and proceeded with the brighness manual adjustment, which worked fine. Now I got my 3 monitors properly calibrated, a Cintiq 24 Pro, a Dell Ultrasharp Ultrawide (curved) and an LG C2 42 Oled TV, they matched very nice, and a joy to work with.. Thanks again Art, you are an amazing teacher 🙏
@@joselizarragaphoto9253 Nice! Also Calibrite Profilier is still considered a beta software so there may be some glitches here and there.
I just did this on my new M chip mac laptop- weirdly the process using my older Colomunki, and the Studio CC application, made the screen look kinda warm- not sure if this is how it should be.. in comparision with the RGB 1998 profile it seems way warmer. hmm. I've now downloaded the i1studio application and hope this is the right app- quite confusing. I've already made several mistakes the first few times- leaving True Tone on, and the adjust brightness... sigh, 3rd time lucky i hope!
warmer is normal
@@ArtIsRight Thanks so much for all your replies on my posts. I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out why it was so much warmer and if I should trust it. Having my images warmer when working on them is one of the trials of my life always struggling against that. Haha because most gallery lights are warm too. But glad to know I can trust my color passport to white balance- that takes the guesswork out of everything even if my screen is somewhat untrustworthy. Will you let us know when it is safe to calibrate these retina m1 screens? I will sub. Thanks! Dana
@@ArtIsRight phew 😅
I'll jump on it when the tech become available to calibrate these displays.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you!!!
HI thanks for this video I have just finished calibrating my LG34wk95c on a Mac Mini M1 everything went good ...
jus to know how do I make sure the computer is using the file I have created when calibrating my display ?
Go to System preferences, display, color tab and check to see if the selected profile is the one that you made.
@@ArtIsRight seems ok don't remember the title it made but it is the brand of my monitor... thank you sir
Brand and model number of your display alone can be misleading. Because the operating system also generates a generic one As soon as you plug in the display
Thank you for the video. So helpful! I’m currently calibrating a PD2700U on its sRGB mode. Which tone curve should I use ? Standard or sRGB. I have slightly different results when comparing the gamuts. I’m using it for photo editing for internet/digital for now and later on for prints. (D65, gamma 2.2, still searching for my luminance). Thank you indeed.
Standard which is Gamma 2.2 is fine and will function well for most works.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you !
Great Video. few questions. After I click okay on measurement successfully completed I notice a dramatic shift in colour and brightness in my screen is this normal? And after reference I click next but the start measurement is greyed out?
You should see changes after you save the profile but not before then. There's a bug in some version, are you running the latest Calibrite version? also what display, computer, etc.
I calibrated my Asus ProArt PA 329CV following your video. I used my I1pro2 spectro meter, and selected the DCI-P3 color mode pre-set on the Asus.
My results are the following:
Average ∆E all patches measured 1.3
Average ∆E of the lowest 90% measured 1.2
Average ∆E of the highest 10% measured 2.5
Maximum ∆E all patches measured 2.9
Maximum ∆E of the lowest 90% measured 2.2
Not sure if I selected the right color mode on the Asus but am I correct it doesn't matter which one I use? Or is it possible that other presets measure better? I'm a beginner and would love to start with making content.
Thanks again!
It does not matter which one you choose. The software will conform to the display gamut. Resutls are for the most part good, the max values are much higher than I like it to be but that is also display dependent.
Thanks for the video. One question though. The new icc profile where is created on the monitor presets? When I finished the cibration should i choose custom preset or should I have it on before the calibration. Thanks in advance
The color mode that you set your display to before calibration, that is the color mode that the icc profile was made for don't change it. But if you calibrate in different color mode this will help for Win th-cam.com/video/bRSwd4x99ao/w-d-xo.html Mac video coming this Friday.
Fantastic video. I have a Dell HDR monitor and a LG OLED C1 attached to my workstation. The purpose of the OLED tv is to monitor video that I am editing in HDR. I want to know if I can save both profiles after calibration on my pc with x-rite Display Pro, or it's just able to control one monitor with the same profile if I am using just one NVIDIA video card (Titan RTX)
Each monitor would have it own profile. And you can use i1Profiler to calibrate HDR but it is not really true HDR REC 2020 Calibration by any means.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for your reply. I wonder why the software doesn't show both monitors. It only shows the LG OLED TV. The only way I can see my Dell monitor is unplugging the TV. Could it be that my version only supports 1 monitor?
Software will only launch on 1 monitor. Once you start the calibration workflow, the first thing that you would choose is the display to calibrate. Click on the display and the program will snap to that display.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for your reply. I have seen tutorials on TH-cam that show with the more expensive version that you are offered the option to pick either monitor. I don't see both monitors. I wonder if the way they are plugged into the GPU has anything to do with it. Could it be I am only allowed to calibrate one monitor in this version of the hardware
Not quite do you have the display on mirroring if so it will not work. dm me on fb page or insta and send me a picture of what you see.
Thank you so much for the video I managed to get my desktop PC done by this guide. But while I am trying to calibrate my windows laptop after calibration , when I click on Display QA its not working ,like the profile is there but its not getting detected by the software and it remains blanked out.
So I would make sure that the profile is set and from the home screen you can just do an independent QA.
Excellent and very helpful video. One question. I work in a bright environment and need to have my screen brighter than 120 cd/m to see properly. Should I still be calibrate at 120cd/m? Thanks!
120 will suffice, brighter is not better.
Hi Art, thank you again for a very informative video. I just downloaded Palette Master V1.3.17 and all my calibrations with this latest version have failed (I saw your video on this version too).
So now im calibrating my SW2700 directly with my i1Display from Xrite. It shows better results and it doesn't fail. My question is where does this calibration go? When using PME, I can set if the calib to slot 1, 2 or 3. In this case, do I just use any slot and then open up the display adjustments on my mac and "tell" the BenQ to use the i1Display calibration setting? Thank you for your answer.
X-Rite will never fail on these displays. This is software calibration so you have to choose the color mode on the display before calibration. Either that or custom 1 or 2 if your display has that mode.
I am running the same version you are, but my i1profiler looks different than yours. Also I do not have the Display QA selection. How do I obtain the version from this video? By the way the instructions on calibration is the best I have seen.
Thank you, if you are running the same version you should see it. Just have to make sure that you are using the advanced mode. What you can also do at the home screen is to choose display or profile verification, it is the option below calibration on the top left of the dialog.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks. I had just updated the software and after a reboot, the profiler now looks like your.
Awesome!
Hello there Art so the last part with a color 24 palette does that have to be done after doing the monitor calibration? or come that part be out? Thank you For those great tutorial
You can choose to skip it but then you won't know how accurate the calibration is. It does not take that much more time, I would personally do it.
@@ArtIsRight awesome thank you very much sir :)
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thank you! Very easy to understand! Grate video!
@KATYA’S GRIFFS, you're welcome!
What does the software do if you cannot adjust brightness on your monitor? Also you had manually adjust brightness and contrast selected but no adjustment prompt for contrast was shown?
Contrast is usually left as is. Software generates ICC profile that does this th-cam.com/video/9hVfwW9LK8E/w-d-xo.html
very nice explanation! thank you!
You are welcome!
After you adjust the brightness for the calibration are you supposed to keep your display at that brightness moving forward since thats the brightness the colors were measured?
For these external displays yes it is best to keep them at the same brightness all the time. If you need to bring the brightness up you can, you just have to remember to come back into display and down the brightness down to the number / percentage that you have set it for a display calibration to get precise color
I find that I need to adjust my display brightness extremely low (~ 25%) in order to meet the 100 candela brightness). Was I supposed to adjust my contrast before my brightness check? My contrast was set to 100% on default.
You generally leave the contrast at default and the adjust the brightness and yes it will be low. These displays now are super bright and that is the issue.
Hello, Can I use the Display Pro Plus to do a hardware calibration on an LG C1 OLED for use with a PS5?
You can't really do that for so many reason. And even if you can the color output won't be based on the PS5 but rather your PC. You need a neutral calibration software that is not based on a computer output such as CalMan with a pattern generator and a really good aka expensive color spectrophotometer or color radiometer.
Hello again. What spectral backlight correction should I use to calibrate a QLED monitor with ccProfiler? Thank you.
Is this for a TV? Or what display model? I would run a test with the usual, RGB LED or White LED as a start and see how the RGB curve is tracking.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for repond always. It is for a Samsung TV Q80T 50". It has a QLED display. I have seen that the RGB LED spectrum curve is very close to that the QLED spectrum. So, I put RGB LED in ccProfiler and the result is very nice. Thanks
Awesome!
Thank you Art. It really helpful. But one thing that I noticed is: i1 profiler doesn't show color gamut in percentage just like Datacolor, isn't it? I already own i1 Display pro and I'm really confused to read gamut result in 3D space. I prefer there's any percentage info.
Percentage really does not means much and is not usually that precise which is X-Rite / Calibrite does not include it.
Hello, thank you for the comprehensive video. I followed these exact steps on 2 monitors, a BenQ PD3200U and a AOC 2369VM and both of them started to change colour, like a flicker and then change back. This happens when I start Chrome for the first time after boot. Also, when I play videos the brightness changes when the subtitles appear on screen. It's weird, I couldn't find anything on the internet that would solve this issue. I thought maybe you know what makes this, or someone here has had this issue. Thanks a lot for your reply.
Flicker, I am not sure about this, what video card do you use. As far as chrome and after boot, it is the profile getting applied. Chrome does color manage and that is what you might be seeing. It would appear that this is not subtle or seem-less on your system as it should be. Video brightness change with sub title is normal in some circumstances especially when the text are not embedded in the video. Your display is overlaying the white text and because the screen uses single backlight source this is normal. Mini or Micro LED with local dimming will help with this or OLED but LED IPS Backlight panel, well this is the best that it will get for video. For what its worth, this is something common that I see on my iPad with playing movies with sub title.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for the response. It's not much of a flicker, more like a pulse of yellow hue and then it slowly goes back to normal colour. None of this has happened to me before I calibrated my two monitors. It could be a problem with Windows, for example, when I'm watching a TH-cam video and start up the calculator app in Windows, the video changes contrast. I realized then it was a problem with the transparency that Windows has on its apps, so I switched it off in settings and the problem disappeared! AND ALSO, videos on TH-cam look different in Chrome vs. Firefox! In Chrome, it has an added contrast which looks off, like I can see the clipping in dark areas. I recall, I haven't had these issues before calibration! Also, to answer your question I have a RX 480 8GB on my desktop at home (with the AOC monitor) and a RX 5500 XT at work (with the PD3200U monitor), both of them are AMD, so it could also be a problem with the graphics card drivers. I'm thinking if I should calibrate with a different tool, see if there's an issue with my i1 Display Pro Plus, or not. But then again, if it doesn't interfere with the colour accuracy of my photos ( I'm at the beginning of my studio photography business), I guess I can make it work. Thank your for your time answering these questions, I appreciate the feedback.
Yes problem is with transparency. As far as color in Chrome try disabling hardware acceleration to by pass the GPU, Firefox is the best for color management. Also chrome and Firefox use different rendering engines.I don't think that you hardware have issues, just the browser settings. Give this website a read cameratico.com/tools/web-browser-color-management-test/ it will help out too
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the info, it's really helpful to understand a bit about how color works on browsers and in general. Eventually, I did a fresh reinstall of windows and did a calibration without any video drivers installed and it seemed to have worked??? Anyways I know more about colour calibration that I did before all this and that's thanks to you.
Sure thing!
Art, many thanks for the video. Can I calibrate a Benq PD3200Q with the i1 profiler as well?
Yes, absolutely
You should use this software for any BenQ PD displays and most other displays except for the model or line up that can be hardware calibrated.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for the answers Art. But, what do you mean by "hardware calibrated".
@@ArtIsRight Art, here is one more question. The x-rite website says the i1 Display Pro is a discontinued product and i should get the upgrade from calibrite. They have the cc Profiler software. Is this the same as the i1 Profiler. Thanks for your time.
They are the same th-cam.com/video/w_uRI5qkBlA/w-d-xo.html and this for Hardware vs Software calibration th-cam.com/video/9hVfwW9LK8E/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much! This is super useful! But I wonder when the calibration is going on - does the program turn off the current .icc profile on the system and send a somewhat raw signal to the display, or does it operate under the current profile? I have my displays calibrated in the past but the colours went off recently so I bought an i1 Display Pro to calibrate them myself again. Do I need to remove the current profiles and bring them back to the default state or does the software do it on its own by testing some clean output? I'm going to calibrate 2 displays on a Windows machine as well as a MacBook and its external display so I wonder what would be the difference in this regard on the two operating systems.
Yes at the beginning the program apply a linear profile before calibration. Just calibrate for each OS independently.
@@ArtIsRight thank you! Everything went flawless, especially on Windows where I have two identical monitors and the image I see on both of them is identical. But I can't say the same about my MacBookAir M1 with an external display. Although the colours and brightness are very close, the contrast and darkness of the shadows are noticeably different. Why is that? All the calibration settings were the same. I saw lots of definitive settings for colours, gamma, and white point in the software but the Contrast is left unclear. Is there a reference or some measurement numbers which determine if the contrast is correct or not, so that I could set it identical for two different displays to see similar images as I did for the brightness? And another question - is there any way how to set the brightness of the MacBook in half a tick? In my case, brightness in the middle is 128 cd, which is too bright, and one tick below is 82 cd which is kinda dark... I would love to have it in the middle, but I don't know if macOS allows for a more precise brightness setting...
I just watched your video on matching displays so I basically got the answer for the contrast difference question, thank you. Though I'd like to know - is there some criteria that tell that one monitor has a correct contrast and another is worse - that could be measured by an i1 Display Pro e.g. so that the decision which display to keep as a reference was objective and not based on our eyes only.
This is why th-cam.com/video/NxTNSkxgVP8/w-d-xo.html it can't be done, glad you checked it out already. Not really you can look at the calibration and validation report and that will give you a good clue. In the end if you use higher end pro display just assume that with proper calibration external is going to be better than internal calibrated display.
So....how do I use this on a Sony BVM-D32E1WU professional CRT monitor?
Same way the program should intelligently choose the back light source, if it is not correct you can just change it to CRT
Sir what is the purpose of saving profile when calibration is already done?
If you don't save the profile then the calibration that you have done is useless without the profile. That is why you save it so that the OS and color aware program can use it.
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Thank you so much for this info!!!!! i just ordered the PD27OOU monitor so i will use the same calibration settings like the (PD3220U) right? furthermore do i have to calibrate with sRGB mode on? I am not a professional photographer, i mostly record/mix music and lately i started editing videos in Davinci and do some photo editing etc mostly for web. (TH-cam, Facebook etc) thank you once more!!!!!! Finally if you offer a calibration guide step by step for my monitor only (or for a very similar one) i would love to buy it ;)
Yes the calibrate method is the same for most of the displays. I would probably calibrate it in Display P3 color mode this way you have access to the most color. Or if you spend a lot of time in DaVinci and you are on a PC then you should consider REC 709. And your OS or software would handle the majority color conversion via the CMM in the background in realtime.
This video explains CMM th-cam.com/video/Yvu-sgddna0/w-d-xo.html
@@ArtIsRight thank you so much 😊 for your time wow! I downloaded the PD2700U manual but I can’t really find this P3 color mode. Anyway I’m waiting for the monitor to come probably tomorrow so I’ll find this option somewhere in the osd menu.
Right the PD2700U does not have P3 color mode so you can use REC 709 color mode for calibration since you use Resolve. :) Or you can also try calibrating it this way too th-cam.com/video/kSGVS3pSxV8/w-d-xo.html either one will work.
@@ArtIsRight you Are the greatest! Wish you million subscribers ;)
Thanks for the detailed video. For some reason when I click on Display QA it says that there's no active profile for the display and I have no idea what's wrong or how to fix it. Would appreciate any suggestions.
That seem like the profile was not set properly in the system. I would give that a check firs and see if the profile show up in the OS or not. If it does, I would set it and then see what happens when you try to validate profile again.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the quick reply. The profiles for my two external display on Win 10 are already set after calibration. I can see that in Control Panel - Color Management. I've additionally set the same profiles in system defaults for both screens, but still the same error in QA section. Any other suggestions, or am I checking in the wrong place?
These profile for the 2 external display should not be the same. I'm not sure why QA does not work based on what you are telling me. The thing is, this would be a simple fix if I can see what is happening and inspect the system, but without seeing it, there's really not much that I can do beyond these basic pointers.
Art, Is it best to usb RGB manual control when possible? It’s do-able on my Dell monitor and I accidentally did not do it the first time, I re-did using the manual control.
On Dell I find it produced better results, on others it depends. On BenQ PD it is best to use the factory recalibration.
@@ArtIsRight it did work, delta E went from .45 to .43 after using manual control. I re did it to make sure i was maximizing the accuracy. Thanks for the great videos Art!
I just followed this tutorial just 2 minutes ago... and what I'm missing that's not available on ccProfiler is the percentage of color gamut that the monitor covers. Or is it tucked away somewhere in the application? Thanks
It is not, that is Spyder and it is for the most part go to be aware of but a useless and in accurate matrix. ∆E which Spyder does not really do is more crucial and important.
@@ArtIsRight I actually see it when I tried DisplayCAL. Thanks
That is another story.... I am unable to comment on DisplayCal
Thank you very much!
You're welcome!
Hi and thanks for the tutorial! My monitor does not pass thresholds 2 and 5 in the QA measurements, but it passes 3 and 8. The average of all patches is 2.1 and the maximum is 7.5. Hoverer, a year ago it passed. Is that normal? Are the results I have now still good for photo work? And one more question, my monitor has both controls for RGB: gain and offset, which one should I use? I think I can get better results by changing just the offset settings, but I'm not sure that's the right approach. Thanks!
This tell you that your display could start to go bad. Either this or it could be a sign of driver or OS issues. I would do A/B testing with another machine and see if the result is about the same, better or worse. ∆e of 2 is consider ok for pro photo, anything above 5 is no longer good. There's no one right way to set the display, my advice is choose the one that gives you the best calibration results. But without knowing more, it would seems like your display is starting to go.
@@ArtIsRight It's a shame if the display is starting to go bad, I only bought it 2 years ago. But I will experiment with calibration and gain/offset settings and hopefully I can get it to work. Thanks!
Hello Sir and thank you for the video! It has helped a ton. Just one question left- I have the same display. Before calibration I did a reset on my Benq. So I calibrated Benq in its Display P3 mode. Since I work in DaVinci Resolve I have to work in REC 709. I am a bit confused - can I just switch to REC709 mode through the meny of my Benq after the calibration process and I am ready to go? Thank you in advance!
Which BenQ do you have? If you have the SW you should be calibrating with Palette Master Element, if you have the PV then Palette Master. If you have the PD then yes you can use i1Profiler, if you editing your work in resolve and use REC 709, you should do a calibration in REC 709 color mode and notated in the profile name REC 709 this way you know which profile it is. So when you switch to REC 709 color mode on the display, what you will do is choose the corresponding profile in the color management dialog on either Mac or Win 10. You want to make sure that the programs are not running when you switch the profile. After the switch launch the program so that they can use the correct profile for rendering.
So, I have the Pd2700u, and work mostly on sRGB mode, should I calibrate with the monitor on sRGB mode or User mode? Thank you.
@@ArtIsRight Hi, can you please come back to this answer. For my BENQ PD3200U-T, im being told by Davinci editors to stay in REC709 at gamma 2.4. Woud that mean i have to switch on the display itself from USER/sRGB/DARKROOM/etc to REC709 ? Also, on your comment on "choose the corresponding profile in the color management dialog on either Mac or Win 10" - What is this exactly and where do I change it exactly in windows ?
can you tell me how ot set up a calibration with a benq device specifically for rec709 ? thank you in advance
Choose REC 709 color mode and the follow this guide for calibration.
Is the software bypassing the OS? Because if not then it would not be appropriate to use with a Clean Feed and I/O Card no? Also how would I do this on a monitor that saves these LUTs (.icc) on the monitor itself and not on the machine?
you can't use clean feed with this it does nothing, clean feed will null everything. If your display uses LUT, there's no point for this
great video . anybody can explain for me . i have i1profiler device but my software is demo , can i buy just License or must to buy device with License togather ?
The device is the license, if it is showing in demo, it means that the software and by extension the system does not see the calibrator, recommend another USB port first and then go from there, also you might need to install X-Rite device services. Also Mac or pc?
Hey Art I hope you have time to answer this question. I am trying to run my I1 Profiler (Display Pro Plus) on my new MacBook M1 Max computer but I can't get the software to load. I keep getting "I1 Profiler quit unexpectedly" warning. Is there a compatibility issue? Your thoughts please.
Thanks,
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You can watch the quick guide here th-cam.com/video/bqF_SQWv8x0/w-d-xo.html but you should not try to calibrate these displays yet. Also are you running the latest i1Profiler software version. And when you set up your M1 did you restored from back up or time machine or set it up as a new machine?
Hi, I bought a new BenQ sw270c and an i1Display Pro calibration device. Can I skip the BenQ calibration process and go straight to the i1 Pro calibration? And: should I do the calibration while I have daylight in my work area?
Calibration time does not matter. The best result will come from using Palette Master Element with the SW270C because you are doing a true hardware calibration th-cam.com/video/9hVfwW9LK8E/w-d-xo.html
Hello, I have the Benq PD2725U with mac studio. I calibrated with calibrate color checker display pro. My question is when I am editing in photoshop and I clicked on the color settings tab under the working space in photoshop do I click the drop down box RGB: and make sure it is on the Benq icc that I calibrated too? I have the option to check Monitor RGB benq PD2725U-22-04-2023.icc is that what I make sure it says in photoshop? Also on color management profiles in that tab when I have the monitor RGB benq selected the RGB policy is off but it does let me click preserve embedded profiles for CMKY and gray?
"I clicked on the color settings tab under the working space in photoshop do I click the drop down box RGB: and make sure it is on the Benq icc that I calibrated too? :"
Yes that is one way how you can do this. I would choose the ICC rather than the Monitor RGB for various reasons that I'll have to make a video about.
"Also on color management profiles in that tab when I have the monitor RGB benq selected the RGB policy is off but it does let me click preserve embedded profiles for CMKY and gray?"
This is one of the reasons why you don't want to choose monitor RGB. So just choose the icc and you are good to go
@@ArtIsRight thank you, I changed in photoshop under color settings tab. I now have the BenQPD2725U-4-22-23icc vs the monitor rgb benqpd2725u-4-22-23icc. that is very confusing that it has both options on the drop down in photoshop, so a video would be awesome. I just assumed since I have it changed on the apple studio under the settings that I didnt need to do anything in photoshop? so that is the disconnect. Not sure about lightroom. thanks
another question. so I did a basic color in lightroom since I have a few files. Now when importing into photoshop I am getting the warning: embedded profile mismatch. the 111.psd has the embedded color profile that does not match current rgb. embedded: srgbiec...working: benqpd2725icc. so if the monitor is calibrated will it be fine just to let it use the embedded srg from lightroom or do I need to click to use the benq icc? I need to supply SRGB to my labs, so that is why I use it. I know I can turn this warning off, but this is confusing on what I am actually seeing if I make changes in photoshop. Again, under the mac studio setting I have the benq icc selected. it's just throwing me off working in photoshop.
Choose the one that does not say Monitor profile. You can change the profile in PS but not in LRC. LRC / LR takes this information from the OS icc profile setting.
Yes with this just use the embedded profile.
Watch this, a crucial but not as well known concept th-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/w-d-xo.html
When I click display QA, it says no profile selected, even though I just had calibrated and hit save. New profile is also set as windows default when I checked too.
I have heard of this issue before, can you just do a QA from the home screen?
@@ArtIsRight I am having this issue as well, both after creating a profile, and also when attempting to QA from the homescreen. Windows is loading and shows the created ICC profile as the one being used by the system, ccProfiler does not detect it. Using a ColorChecker Display Pro. I followed your, "How to add, set and verify display icm (icc) profile in Windows 10!" video and all settings match the ones demonstrated in the video.
Thanks Art!
Hi I just bought the calibrite display pro for my color grading work to deliver for web. But I didnt realize that I dont have the option to change the BT1886 until I bought it. Is it fine to leave it as standard(default) or should I change it to SRGB?
I would use gamma 2.4 if you want something closer to BT1886. The plus version has BT1886. But talking to many color expert friends of mine G2.4 is close enough.
@ArtIsRight Hi I'm am very curious and interested in learning more! What would be a good course to learn from to get good at using this software? Do you offer one? @art
What specifically do you want to know more about. Most of the setting is straight forward, any other setting that you can choose won't improve the result much. The only think that it may do is offer a different or a variety calibration, but that should not be done or taken lightly unless you need it.
Hello !
Thank you for the video .
can i do Calibrate with color checker display pro Device Luminance 120 cd/m2 for video and Photography ? can i get good colour for these proposes ? is it same instruction as your video to Calibrate BenQ PD3220U with color checker display pro Device ? ( i am using colorchecker Display Pro )
Same software, different logo and branding. And yes you can use the one setting for both. Provided the app that you use is color aware.
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Hello ! i did Calibrate it showed me all Pass ( Result ) but Trending line did not appear ( White Trending Line ). I did turn off M1 Macbook pro as your Videos Instruction ( macOS Display Settings Preferences to turn off before Calibration ) i did with Colour Profil - Display P3 in Macbook Pro M1 . Do i have to set up some function im M1 Macbook pro or BenQ PD3220 U get right Result to appear white Trending Line ? Thank you for great videos information .
I just got my benq monitor and calibrated it. Now I have to do printers. How do I link the two to get the same profiles?
You don't link them per say. Watch this for PS th-cam.com/video/4fEzUMCwZyo/w-d-xo.html and this for LRC th-cam.com/video/MpB75oJzcNM/w-d-xo.html the idea is to print with profile for the paper + printer combo.
@@ArtIsRight thanks! I guess I should have said I’m looking for press printing research. My colorist trainer ghosted me so my job is very hard right now. I was able to grab info from your videos though.
If you have more questions just dm me on fb page or insta
Regarding backlight opcion, I have readed in DisplayCAL forums that for displays with around 90-95% of DCI-P3 is better to use "PFS Phosphor" option. That people say that "White Led" is ok for sRGB displays not Wide Color Gamut. Is all this correct? Thank you.
To me that sounds like an opinion more than fact. In general, the recommendation is to match the backlight option with the display back light tech especially if you are using OEM software. As for if display cal get a better calibration that way, I am unable to comment on it. This is a good guide and I would recommend sticking to your display tech, unless there're justifiable reasons to choose otherwise.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks. My intention is not to leave ccProfiler. It is the official software of the brand and it works very well for me. In fact, I have calibrated the monitor as you do in the video. It so happens that I have the same monitor and calibrator. And everything has been perfect. Thank you very much.
Fantastic!
I have just recently got a BenQ PD2700Q 100% sRGB monitor. 2560x1440, contrast 100:1, brightness of 350.
Q1. What does the calibration report that came with the monitor mean, Does this mean it is a hardware calibrated monitor?
Q2. What about Windows HD colour settings, not sure which version you have but going through windows settings - system - display - Windows HD colour settings, it comes up with a screen that says:
Display capabilities :
Stream HDR video No
Use HDR No
Use WCG apps No
Q3. Does this mean windows doesn't support WCG apps like Lightroom? And hence you cant see all the colours because of the OS colour management system.
Q4. Is windows ultimately in charge of what colours can be shown on my monitor or does x rite override these settings.
1. Calibration report is a health card on the quality of your panel, nothing to do with your use or color that you can get because you computer videocard, OS, software, and drivers are all influencing the output. This might give you some insight as well th-cam.com/video/TObByJau2EE/w-d-xo.html
2. You are good nothing to change there and nothing to worry about. The display that you have is not HDR capable but that is really a great thing because HDR on computer displays beside Apple Build in displays are a pain to deal with.
3. No HDR is not WCG and they are not the same thing. Your display is wide color gamut and windows can use that.
4. Windows is in charge most of the time, X-Rite generate a file, icc profile, that windows use to display the correct color.
I got pa278qv and calibrated it, but now it looks worse than the original calibration. Is the calibrator broken?
You should be using Asus software for that display. Beyond that I don't have an Asus in the studio and I am really unable to help
Hi art, I have a question. For some reason, after I done my calibration through CCprofiler, I can't use the dislay QA function. Saying that I don't have an active profile. But that profile is just installed after the calibration. Does renaming the profile helps?
Yeah there's a bug going on. So what you have to do is check to make sure the correct profile is used and then launch i1profiler / cc profiler again and then do a validation then.
I keep getting the black screen during the 24 patch calibration. Help! What can I do?
Contact Calibrite support for help on this. I am not sure what is going on, too many variables. I would just make sure that screen saver and turn display offer after a period of time is not turned on.
hi Art. didnt understand about the average deltra threshold. u edit it to min 2 and max 50. i thought that was the result after calibrating. when u change the figure the result below still the same. can u clarify pls. thanks heaps.
That is adjusting the pass / fail threshold, it has nothing to do with the actual achieve ∆e results. It just tells the program to report pass or fail. ∆e below 2 is what you want to strive for.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for the reply. i just bought the calibrite display plus and just want to setup my monitor for photography. its a so so monitor. if i get more cash i might buy a benq or eizo.:-) thanks heaps.
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I am using the X-Rite i1Display Pro but I am only seeing three menus: "Display settings, Measurement and ICC-Profile" It is not possible for me to open Display QA?
Are you in advanced mode?
@@ArtIsRight thank you very much, i really missed to check this. :/
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But what if I want my monitor calibrated for print, what luminescence should I use then?
80-120
Can i use ICC profile version 4 (IccMAX Compatible) for windows 11 ?
Or not and i must use version 2 only ?
Still recommend that you stick with 2 for greatest compatibility.
@@ArtIsRight hello there, thanks for the great video! and if it doesn't bother you, I just have one question regarding the versions - if I use both MacOS and Windows on the same display, can I just use the same v2 profile for both or is it better to create separated v4 for MacOS and v2 for Windows?
and also is it better to calibrate in the darkest room possible or it doesn't matter as long as no direct light is coming to the screen?
Hello Art. I have calibrated my monitor using X-Rite i1 and DispalyCal. Every time I start Windows the DisplayCal Profile Loader will automatically load icc into OS. I understand color management needs OS and software working togerther to display correct color. Some software does not support color management at all, other software (like Firefox) needs special settings to display correctly. I want to know if I need to set up my Lightroom, Bridge, and Photoshop as well? Or will these Adobe software automatically load icc profile from OS? I have heard so many different voices, and I know Art will be right. Thank you!
Lightroom and to some extent bridge you don't really have to set the icc and this would include PS as well. However, in PS, you can set the preferred color space the you want to use. This principle applies th-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/w-d-xo.html
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I have a Asus ProArt278QV display. I'm using the same device as in the video to calibrate the monitor. But I always get a 'fail' report. The deltaE off all patches is 7.3.
The calibrating report from the factory says that the deltaE of this monitor is below 1.0 What am I doing wrong?
Great question. That ∆e is high. What color mode are you setting the display to? I would probably recommend that you set it User Mode 1 or 2 and then do the custom RGB calibration adjustment like I showed here th-cam.com/video/kSGVS3pSxV8/w-d-xo.html also what are some other settings you are using, white point, luminance, gamma, contrast, etc.
Hi Art, I have downloaded Palette Mater Element for calibrate my SW270C. It can't verify i!Display Pro Plus, and before this model I had bought spider, which i sobstituted with the xrite thinking it was a calibrator issue, but now i have the same problem with xrite and can't work. What can I do? Is ok to use 1!Profiler for my monitor? thank you regards Fede
You can but you are not getting the most out fo the display. There's are underlying software issues with validation failure and most of the time it is not hardware related.
If you could Please answers these questions completely, we may have a solution that is workable.
Also if you are on Mac and running Catalina 10.15.4 or higher, disable HDR, that will cause validation failure too.
1. What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc )
2. What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number)
3. What calibrator are using?
4. What version of PME are you using?
5. What BenQ model do you have?
6. What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc.
7. If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display?
8. If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise?
9. For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver?
10. Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point
11. For SW2700PT owner, look at the back of your display on the regular tag and give me the MFG date.
Thank you for this video. I am receiving my PD2700U today. I know that the monitor is factory calibrated for the sRGB picture mode. I want to calibrate the monitor with my i1Display Pro using i1profiler software in the User picture mode so I can compare the colors to the sRGB factory calibration.
My question is that in windows 10 the created .icm monitor profile will be automatically loaded by i1Profiler when Windows starts. If I select the sRGB picture mode on the monitor instead of User picture mode after the calibration has been done, how is the loaded .icm i1Profiler profile treated? Will the .icm profile need to be unloaded in Windoes when the the sRGB picture mode is selected on the PD2700U? In other words, how are these 2 picture modes used after a User mode calibration has been performed?
icm profile are automatically loaded when windows loaded. You would have to choose the color mode on the display that corresponds to the correct icm profile. i.e. the color mode that you have done the calibration with. As far as using a profile that does not match the color mode, every will work it is just that you won't get a matching profile and color output will be off slightly. Visually this may not be noticeable but the values will be off. Based on my testing just calibrate the display in sRGB color mode and use that icm profile.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you Art, very clear answer. If I were to calibrate the display in user mode, wouldn't that leave the sRGB picture mode unchanged from the original factory calibration and allow me to easily jump back and forth between the custom calibration and the factory calibration to decide which I liked best?
You can do that but when you switch between them one of the since i.e. user mode.icm is calibrate under user mode. when you switch to sRGB and if keep the user mode.icm the color won't be as accurate because it was calibrate in the other color mode.
@@ArtIsRight Final question please Art, and thanks again for your help. I will be using Davinci Resolve 16 on the PD2700U for grading Gopro videos. Resolve's default input color space, timeline color space and output color space are all Rec.709 Gamma 2.4. Should I select the Rec.709 color mode on my display to match Resolve's color management settings or leave it in the the default sRGB color mode? Which option would be most likely to match the output when viewed on my TV?
So if you are using Resolve, then I would set the display to REC 709 and calibrate it in REC 709 and go with that. Otherwise you would not be able to get an accurate REC 709.
Dear ArtisRight, I have a question please. When I do and measure the calibration on the window where we can see the average delta results and also the maximum, to the right there are a couple of colours. In my case the cheap monitor for everyday use gave me and average of 0.8 (all patches) and a maximum of 4.9 (all patches). The colours on the right like I was referring to above have highlighted two colours and I would say the black and some sort of blue light right next to the black with delta values of 2.495 and 4.926 respectively. Now the question is: I will have to be careful if I am using the colour that gave 4.926 or this will affect the whole image despite of we have or not that colour in particular? TiA
what the delta e value describe is the amount that color is off from reference, ideally you want that value for all of the patches to be below 2 but 5 will be ok in this case too. Yes I would be careful when you are looking at an image with that color but otherwise you should be ok. If you can get the average delta e of less than 5 you are good to go.
@@ArtIsRight thank you for your time in answering to these questions. Well, the MacBook Pro gave a maximum delta E o 1.0 and the regular office monitor gave a maximum delta E of 3.0 for this sort of strange colour looks like dark turquoise colour. In the other office monitor it gave a maximum delta E of 5.
Now I have another question. I have calibrated this at night with one light on.
Shall I also calibrate this during day time and have two profiles? Will the calibration numbers change? Thanks
If you run 2 calibration the number will change slightly but not by much. It is one of those things where at the time of measurement the conditions (internal) on the display are not precisely the same. I would just stick with the calibration that you have. And not worry about having 2 profiles.
@@ArtIsRight thanks. Very helpful. And since we are talking about calibration let me ask you something else.
If you are calibrating a laptop that it isn't a macbook and using a third party DisplayCal software, it asks yo to measure the white point. For that you need to adjust the RGB channels. Can I ask you something about this? TIA
Most laptop displays does not have native RGB controls, if you have them they are via software, to which precision is depend on the software that you use to adjust it. I would just stick with i1Profiler in this case.
I have an LG 27UL650 and I calibrated the monitor but it is failing the last portion with flying colors. Do you have any suggestions on how to address this?
what do you mean exactly by failing the last portion with flying colors? Which portion exactly, the calibration or validation part? If validation what is your ∆E average and max?
@@ArtIsRight I am talking about the validation portion. And I meant it way off what you considered to be good. my Average is 6.6 and my max is 15.3
Yes that is really high. There are things that you can do to trouble shoot starting with the connection cable and going from there to os, driver, display itself etc.
Thank you for NOT selecting the Automatic display control!!!
You're welcome. Too many people who don't know what they are talking about advise that, not good.
Can I project this device on the wall without projection? If there is such a thing, can you help?
You can calibrate projector yes. But you need a projector
@@ArtIsRight thanks!
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So if it’s crumbled like paper what could be the issues causing it?? 🤔
the profile?
@@ArtIsRight Yes as you mentioned @ 22:18 looking at the wedge pattern. Thanks in advance.
That, bad profiling, light straying into the sensors, so many things.
it refuses to go past the Profile My Display step. Both "Previous" and "Next" are greyed out.
Is the device plugged in, lighted up and recognized? Also are you using the correct device with the correct software?
Once you save the icm what do you do? (im on windows)
It automatically apply. you can verify it in the display settings