This video is SO helpful. Thank you for taking the time to make it, I was searching and searching before I found your video. Calibrite should link to this video on their website!
@@ArtIsRight Funny, I wish the search bar would have showed me either theirs or your video sooner then! I had to get through 3 other videos before I found yours. Thanks again!
Software is still limited with only on the fly readings only, 'display cal' can do up to 5 passes on the gray scale readings alone, I recommend setting up the white balance with the hcfr software then finish the rest with display cal
14:27 Despite your "low" delta E validation values, the colors of some of the validation circle splits are obviously quite different. Doesn't this beg the question whether an acceptable delta E should be much lower?
That is more of a visual demonstration more than anything, I would not use that to judge accuracy. As far as ∆e goes, anything under 2 is extremely difficult to tell apart. And it is calculated from a very specific formula. The rule of thumb still applies anything under 2 is great and variation that results from that are extremely difficult to differentiate. So the ∆e recommendation remains the same.
Great video (as usual). Very helpful. I just did the upgrade and calibration and everything seemed to go just fine but I had one small question. Before, there was a CC System Tray notification in the Menu Bar that showed green until time to recalibrate, then it turned red. Now, although I checked to be reminded in 4 weeks, there is no reminder that I can see. How do I know when it is time to recalibrate? Did I miss something? (MacBook M1 running Sonoma btw). Thanks!
Great video, Art! Loving the display! It looks really cool in the video! As to the calibrite software, I tried it and this is just a fresh coat of paint written in React on the same old software, running on Intel and Rosetta. But the old app was so horrific I bought the upgrade!
The app is very beta, but it looks nice. What's quite interesting - Because it doesn't force you to close the calibrator, you can keep it in the exact same place where it was calibrating the screen and the validator gives much more flattering deltaE values, like 0.3, 1... I am not sure if this is good or bad, but I like it. On the other hand, now it's impossible to calibrate a display from an edge, which forces me to adjust the counterweight when switching monitors that are in vertical orientation. I know it's by design and that the center of a display is what we look at the most. I hope to see many more features coming, like a one click auto workflow for multiple monitors with immediate validation, profiles overwrite (which was possible in earlier software), better algorithms.
Because it doesn't force you to close the calibrator, you can keep it in the exact same place where it was calibrating the screen and the validator gives much more flattering deltaE values, like 0.3, 1... I am not sure if this is good or bad, but I like it." does not matter whether one closes the calibrator or not between calibration and validation. That has nothing to do with the ∆E number.
Hi there, how come grey scale and gamma were skipped? Does the Calibrate plus HL work with Calman for Panasonic. I don’t have a pattern generator hence why I am stuck with Calman as it’s generated pattern on my Panasonic OLED.
It has been a while since I have used my i1 Display Pro and I was keen to try this. However, it is asking me to pay to 'upgrade' my device. Considering this software is beta, I am concerned that if I upgrade, I will end up locked into having to spend £££'s on new software after the beta expires.
Art, could you explain why I cannot get my monitors to match the whitepoint exactly, despite the fact that they calibrate to average deltaE < 1? I have a phosphor one that is warmer than the other two, which are white LED - more on the blueish side. The readings of the white point are super close to D65, the displays should be identical...
Ok so are these 2 panel different back light? If so the best thing to do is calibrate them independently and choose the proper backlight type for each of them. Now the reason why you are seeing different color, even though the sensor is measuring D65 on both and each have respective ∆e of less than 1 is because of the following: In layman terms, different backlight types though measured at the same color temperate will always be perceived differently by human vision. Part of this is because of the backlight and the other part is the display panel layering technology. The specific term for this called illumination metamarism. The key thing here is that they are both at D65 but the spectral output for each of the back light to get to the D65 value is different. Think of LED light, how not all of them are equal even when you set them at D65. That is why there're spectrophotometer that cost $1500 and up to measure the CRI, TLCI, etc. Because even though we see white light, some of the color spectrum might be missing. Hope this helps. If you follow up on this thread please start a new comment, otherwise I'll probably not see it. I'm buried in comments.
Can anyone get this software to work on Windows 11? I have a Razer Blader 16 with miniled and the software gets stuck at the pulsing light intro. I need to get this software working. Any ideas on why it might not be loading? Thanks!!
I wish Calibrite software had calibration LUT creation capability. It seems like all of the calibration software options in the market are only capable of doing half a full calibration. And while it is nice that there are some minor calibration workflow enhancements in the Calibrite profiler software, most are simply a reorganisation of the interface, not an advancement. What I had hoped for when first I saw the title of your video was that this Calibrite software provided a means of generating a calibration profile for the Calibrite hardware itself to deal with measurement tool drift, and the way the tool interacts with different display panel characteristics. If Calibrite provided a factory certification hardware profile one could add to proper calibration software. At least initially (before drift) one could create an accurate calibration for professional use without first calibrating the calibration tool with an even more expensive photo spectrometer. But still Calibrite remains unsuited to video editing for broadcast standards, except at the most primitive hobbyist level. :-((
That why for that level work there's CalMan, different workflow, use, design and intension. And "except at the most primitive hobbyist level" I would not classify it that way and many would not agree; in boardcasting sure, however, I would not cast a wide scope as a trickle down into other video discipline.
Hi Art, I have updated my I1 display pro to the Color Checker Display Pro so that I can use Calibrite Profiler. I run a M1 MacBook Pro which I tried to calibrate with that software. I successfully created a photography profile and also a second print profile. My problem now is that I need to go back into the Calibrite software to swap the profiles and the second problem is that the color temperature changes but not the brightness. I wished that either X-Rite or Calibrite supports their software with proper instructions. Have you or any of your subscribers worked out a way yet to use the software on M1 or M2 MacBook Pros?
First, change icc profile in system preferences - displays or system settings - displays. No need to go back into the app. Icc profile does not have luminance control parameter, that is done on the display only. You can run the software on any Apple Silicon, however, if one has a 14" or 16" MacBook Pro or Apple Pro Display XDR, calibration should not be done yet. An update is needed and over due at this point, but I digress.
Hey there, I review laptop panels and currently use SpyderX because in their software I can get an analysis of the display’s brightness in nits at different levels (0%, 25%, etc.) and it also gives me a readout of the display’s coverage of different gamut’s like DCI-P3 as a percentage. Is there any way to do that with this software? I have a Display Pro Plus as well but can’t seem to find anything like that.
You can get the read out in nits, but not the analysis of what comes before the calibration. All those measure pre calibration from a colorimeter is an approximation at best and is not necessary an accurate assessment of the display
How do you know what is your display's technology type? I have a Macbook Pro 16" 2019 and I can't find any information on this. I also have an old Apple 27" cinema display (which I need to replace, what do you recommend for photography editing?) Thanks
16" MBP 2019 is PFS Phosphor. Old Apple Cinema, I believe is GB-LED. I have to double check this. You can also email Calibrite support and they will get the answers to you rather quickly. For photo editing, IU would recommend BenQ SW series
Hi Art, very interesting explanation. Bu i have a dumb question. I have done the calibration with Calibrite Profiler and my new Color Checker display Plus. So my screen setting on win10 show me now selected the new color profile. But i don't understand, what about the color mode on my screen? does this new calibration must be assigned to "calibration 1 -2 or 3, or custom 1 or 2" and in cas it does, how it has to be done? thank you
Great info! I just used this software to calibrate my BenQ PD2700U with a new DisplaySL colorimeter. After about 2-3 years it seemed my monitor shifted from the factory calibration just slightly and this was fairly easy process for a relative newbie. Anyway, I've caught your other calibration videos and was wondering if you think it is worth doing another calibration in Davinci Resolve if grading and editing in DR. There are a handful of YT videos on doing this but they are all over the place in terms of settings. I don't have a separate reference monitor so I use the BenQ PD2700 set up in Rec 709, which is on Gamma 2.4 according the the Display Pilot settings info. If you use Davinci Resolve and recommend a calibration - would love to see a tutorial!
@@ArtIsRight Thanks! Yeah I can't understand why I would need to make a separate second calibration using the monitor calibration function under workspace to work in DR and use its window view. The reasoning according to some is that DR does not use the icc profiles stored on operating systems but if it doesn't use the icc profile what would it use? I shoot video for personal and an occasional company webinar/tutorial, etc. so not absolutely critical. Thanks again.
@@markamarkam If you change ICC profile while having DR open you will see that the image is changing so it seems that it doesn't override the ICC profile, I don't even know if that would be possible. It is of course not affecting the rendering process, maybe that's what the sources you mention talked about.
it is according to the software. standard practice, only thing you can do is let the corners fall where they may. You can check but that is about it. display profile works globally for the entire screen not segments of it.
Got this new calibrite device, and I don't get one thing and the latest profiler app from them. My monitor is Acer Predator X32 FP, it has a wide gamut. So I do everything like this video is showing, but in the end my profile seem to be wide gamut as well, unlike on this video where calibrated profile is almost covering sRGB. Also I don't get one more thing, durring calibration I set up a certain brightness and RGB values, but when I return to beginning of calibration the values I just set up are off, and the app is telling me to adjust it even more further. in example, 30 brightnes was 118 candels for me, but when I re-run the calibration again I had to lower it ti 25 brightness in order to achive target brightness. Similary for RGB gain sliders. My goal is to calibrate my monitor the way it displays sRGB only, without turning the sRGB emulation in monitor OSD. I also don't want to use apps like no video, as its crashing on me.
"So I do everything like this video is showing, but in the end my profile seem to be wide gamut as well, unlike on this video where calibrated profile is almost covering sRGB." This is not clear to me, so you are getting full wide gamut but you want to have sRGB? If so choose sRGB as the color mode on your display. Or you can rephrase the question and give me a bit more context. "Also I don't get one more thing, durring calibration I set up a certain brightness and RGB values, but when I return to beginning of calibration the values I just set up are off, and the app is telling me to adjust it even more further. in example, 30 brightnes was 118 candels for me, but when I re-run the calibration again I had to lower it ti 25 brightness in order to achive target brightness. Similary for RGB gain sliders. My goal is to calibrate my monitor the way it displays sRGB only, without turning the sRGB emulation in monitor OSD. I also don't want to use apps like no video, as its crashing on me." it seems to me that your display OSD is changing the entire output of the display. I have seen this before, when you are in the display menu everything changes and when the OSD is gone something has change again. Your only way around this is set a short time out and just change - wait for the OSD to disappear and repeat.
@@ArtIsRight I took my calibrite device to a friend who has totally different display and OSD (WLED Philips vs mine Mini-LED), and I experienced the same there. Anyway... his calibration results were perfect, delta around 0.5. While mine is 2 and more, and I cannot calibrate my screen properly. Maybe I'm selecting wrong panel type, but mine panel is mini-led so I'm selecting it in the app.
Thanks for the video. I am now using the new software and wanted to ask how I save the profiles directly in the monitor. I use a BenQ SW2700 and was able to save 2 profiles directly in the monitor with the old software.
This is software profiling, so no. But you can set the display to custom color mode and that is going to be as close to panel native as you can get on software profiled displays.
How do i make a HDR profile in windows for my LG C2 TV 42’ i use as a monitor? Do i set the windows hdr slider to 100? Do i disable tone mapping? Please make a video on this it will help alot of oled users
The short answer is you can't as of yet. If you want to do that. you can set the brightness to full 100% on the display from there run the calibration and set the luminance to native. Tonal mapping enabled or disabled when running the calibration won't matter much. You can only use this icc profile on a computer source because it necessitate the icc profile And there no way to apply an icc profile to the C2 for other sources. Even then, it won't be a true HDR REC 2020 Profile. If you, however, want to calibrate your C2, I think you might be able to use CalMAN software to do that, You have to check and if you can, that would be a calibration for the C2 independent of any computer.
Sorry, but the question I came with is what are the differences between i1Profiler and Calibrite Profiler? I thought you were going to answer that question.
I did in the intro. This is the software going forward for Calibrite that combines ccProfilier and ccStudio together. They redesigned the GUI and make it easier with more visual feed back.
Hi. When I try to adjust the brightness from the monitor menu, Calibrite does not show the brightness line going up or down, it remains the same. If I use 1profiler, everything works fine. I got a 4k 32 LG display.
Yes I would still follow this guide th-cam.com/video/7_EIy60UBTU/w-d-xo.html when it reach the calibration stage just use your Spyder device and software.
Thanks for this tutorial. I calibrated my new monitor and find that the colors now look muted less vibrant after calibration. I calibrated with match Photo settings on the new Calibrite Profiler v 1.0.4. Is there a way to revert back to original color profile? I prefer the original colors under normal media consumption and would only like to switch to color corrected mode during photo editing / printing only. Or is there a calibrate setting that would make the colors look like how it originally was? I'm on a Apple M1 Pro system using LG 38WN95C monitor. Any advice appreciated.
Great video as always. I have one question: I use your video where you explain how to calibrate my Macbook Pro with apple silicon and macOs Ventura and the first step is to introduce the fine tune values for white point (x/y) and luminance. With the previos Calibrite software you could get this values as explained on your video and introduce them in the macOS preferences, but I don't see this option on this new software. Do you know how to do it and get this values? I have tried to do custom white point measurement but it don't display x/y value.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks. Unfortunately although my computer recognises the ColorMunki, the USB goes bing and it appears in the device manager list, the software refuses to acknowledge that it is connected. Maybe this is a Windows 11 problem.
Hi. Thanks for video :) does this device measure the ambient light in the room? does it adjust the brightness of the screen to the light in the room? Can I turn off the lights while measuring brightness? or should they be turned on?
You are probably in demo mode, which means your device didn't activate the program. If you have an x-rite device you have to do a 1 time upgrade of $9.99 if you have a Calibrite device, it should work, I would give app a restart with the device plugged in and sees where this takes you.
A technical question, Calibrite does not answer it. I noticed that my Colormunki Photo is not working on the Mac Mini M2 Pro. Do you know if the Colorchecker Studio is compatible with the M2 Pro processor?
ColorChecker studio and ColorMunki Photo is the exact same device as the i1Studio and all of them will work with Calibrite ColorChecker Studio software and you can get it to work with Calibrite Profilier with a onetime $9.99 upgrade fee. Hope this helps. If you have any follow up questions, I recommend starting a new comment, this way I'll see it :)
I have a technical question about monitor calibration: I am asked to choose a white point when I calibrate a monitor using Calibrite Profiler. However, it doesn't ask me to choose white point during validation. Could you please explain why that is the case? I thought that the same RGB values have different meanings under different white points. So why is validation white point independent?
You will always have to validate the display with the same white point as calibration. That should never change. The validation is not white point independent it is tied to the profile and display setting
Hi Art! I really need your help! 🙏 I’ve just bought the ColorChecker Display Plus and have installed the Calibrite Profiler (I have an iMac Retina 5k 2020), I have followed your instructions and because I’m a professional photographer I chose the highest “patch value”. Everything seems Ok and the calibration process starts but when it reaches to 357 patches of 461 patches left (the process doesn’t reach halfway through) the entire process stops and a pop-up windows shows up in the middle of the screen saying “Warning. Exit Process” and all I can do is to click OK and I am then back to “Ready to measure”. Why?! 😢 I have tried several times now and no matter what I do it just doesn’t work 😔 What can I be doing wrong?
So you can use X-Rite i1Profiler or you can use Calibrite ColorChecker Profiler as well, they are technically the same software. And I'm glad that it worked out. About the calibration stop in Calibrite Profilier, it would seems there is a bug in the software. If you would be so kind, please contact Calibrite and report this to them so they can log and track this bug because this is not the first instance of me hearing about this type of behavior.
Great introduction! Do you know if it improves compatibility with MBP XDR displays? So far it seems that no software is capable of properly calibrating those great displays.
No that area is still the same as the last time I checked. I think that we might come to a point where the hardware is the limitation, I don't know. But I know that there are people smarter than me working on this. As soon as something comes out, I'll post about it.
Excellent! I have just bought a Benq Pd3220u, and coming from a Dell, It's a step upward. When I calibrate with my Calibrite Display Plus, should I put the display in "User" mode, or does that matter? Afterwards I will use the ICC profile on my Windows computer. Thanks for your tons of information! Kind Regards, Jan from DK
HI Art - Really enjoy your channel and have been using the new Calibrate Profiler software. I have what may be a dumb question, but on a Mac Studio Display (Sonoma) how do you adjust the luminance when the brightness controls have been disabled in the display settings?
You don't, what you would do with Studio Display is as follows: th-cam.com/video/PLB93k9UYWc/w-d-xo.html let me know if you have any question by starting a new thread, that video will walk you through everything
Hi Art, I am using i1 Display PLUS and i1 Profiler app on M2 max macbook pro. when try to cal the monitor, it shows Failed to find any displays. Please make sure you have the correct licensee file install. have you every use i1 Display PLUS to cal the m2max MacBook pro? thanks mate
I know, so there was a change with M2 PRO / MAX, Calibrite Profilier 1.0.4 fixed this issue but to get that you might have to download 1.0.3 from Calibrite website and then use automatic update to get the latest version. As far as i1Profilier or ccProfilier an update coming, it is just a matter of time. I know that have a fix implemented already. But waiting for the build to be released. Side note, I would just do a fine tune calibrate on the XDR displays and not calibrate them yet. At this point in time, there no consumer device that can calibrate these miniLED adequately. I have a playlist that talks about all of this here th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html And specifically if you like to know the "why" this video have the answers for you th-cam.com/video/nFIv3pWXMl8/w-d-xo.html
So I did a text calibration using both Calibrite Profiler & CCProfiler using the Display Plus with the same settings and the resulting profile was completely different which is a little concerning. Thoughts?
Thanks a lot for the video. I wanted to ask if there is a specific video for studio displays and if the SW is already available for the end user or still in beta. Thanks and good job. Christian
This software and studio display, I don't have any a guide for that and may not have one. New SWs are going to be available sometime late June. The software for SW Palette Master Ultimate is available for Windows now and Mac in a few weeks.
Calibrate removed the M2 Pro / Max disclaimer from their downloads page, but it still doesn't work properly. I just tried it out and I can read the x point, y point, and luminance for my 27" Apple Studio Display. When I go to do the calibration only the 118 patch option is available and when measuring, it times gives an error when it gets to patch 74. I tried a few times and it did the same thing. I guess further updates are still needed. At least the Fine Tune Calibration from Apple gets us mostly there. And the ccProfiler has not been updated for a long time.
Are you using 1.0.4? Also I have not encountered this error in my testings. I would recommend that you contact your local calibrite support this way they can note and properly log this issue.
@@ArtIsRight I tried again today after a restart and all the patch option show up but it sill times out for each of the 3 sets when it gets to the light purple color. However, when I change the technology type from GB-LED to White LED it works without any problems. This is for my Apple Studio Display.
For the studio display, I would look at this playlist th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q4nRmwT4jHxhkrUAzjYGH59.html GB-LED is the correct one and it is interesting that it crashes.
Let me say this, if you have a SpyderX and it works. Don't need to upgrade yet, just keep using it. But if you are looking for a new one, on an engineering level Calibrite are better in many ways including heritage and lineage as well. TLDR iCalibrite devices are powered by X-Rite and have better sensor on the inside. In addition X-Rite in their history took over a company called Graylag Macbeth, which is know as the best company in color management for a long time. So many of their tech now is rooted in Graylag. Now price & engineering reason correlation. Calibrite devices like X-Rite has better sensor and the spectral data necessary to calibrate the display is stored in the software. This means that as times goes on when new display tech emerge, Calibrite can just release a software update that would accommodate for new display type, assuming that said new display can be measure reasonably by the current sensor. Spyder on the other hand store this data on the device and it is not user upgradable. So when a new display type come out, that measurement sensor is now obsolete or can't calibrate new displays well any more. Yes, Calibrite devices are a premium over Spyder but they do last way longer, case in point, ColorChecker Display Pro is the same as i1Display Pro which as been out for more than a decade already and it has continue to support newer display tech that has come on the market. And in this time frame Spyder has release 3 new devices already. So yes even though their devices are cheaper, with in the same time span you would have to buy 2 if not 3 devices to calibrate newer display tech. As cheaper as they may be by the time you purchase the second one, it already cost more than a Calibrite pro device. In addition, if you constantly update OS, Spyder has been know to drop new OS support on older devices. So you some time would have to buy a new device out of a necessity as well. Lots to think about here.
Trying the Which software should I use? CcProfiler or Calibrite Profiler? Using the new Calibrite Profiler v 1.2.3, I cant get it to finish the calibration and the software hangs, so the color profile wont load at windows startup so I'm still presently using ccProfiler. Also getting wildly different results using ccProfiler vs Calibrite Profiler, not anywhere near the same calibration using the calibrate color checker plus colorimeter.
ColorChecker Display Plus device Calibrite Profilier is really one that you should use, however, if it crashes then ccProfiler will work just as well. I would contact their support team, just so that they can make a case about this to log it for potential bug and fixes, which may benefit other users as well.
@@ArtIsRight Hi Art, thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'll re-install and try the calibrate profiler again and see what happens. Do you know if it matters to have both softwares installed at the same time?
Art I've recently purchased the Color Checker STUDIO and am trying calibrate my Benq SW270C. I'm using an Apple M2 Max running Ventura 13.4.1 . Color Checker just doesn't seem to connect and just shows up a Demo. Any thoughts? Thank you and love your channel.
You are using Calibrite Profilier correct? Since you have a BenQ SW that is capable of hardware calibration, why don't you use Palette Master Ultimate instead from BenQ. It is much better suited calibration software for your display. Also if you do choose i1Studio fro the list.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks Art. I was using the hardware calibration but my prints were way out. e.g. beautiful pink skies came out yellow. That was the reason to to purchase the ccSTUDIO. I'm just doing a paper profile and will see what come out. I must admit the hardware calibration is a lot easier. Thoughts?
I finally figured it out Art. It was the printer drivers. I had to uninstall and reinstall them. It was an expensive and big time suck. Back to using Palette Master and life is good again!
Great reviews you are doing ArtisRight. I do have 1 question with the new software Calibrite Profiler, you might be able to enlight me in. I have a BenQ 32" monitor - but i cant see how to save to the monitor profiles in this software when i calibrate. Calibration 1-2-3. I do use it for Photo Adobe Rgb but also Video Rec709. Did i miss this in some of the videoes. Anyway thanx for your great work.
If you have a BenQ PD display line then this software is the one to use. th-cam.com/video/E5zZyhMFKOI/w-d-xo.html This is the point in the video where you save the profile. If you have a PD, and you want to calibrate Adobe RGB (only 1 PD model support Adobe RGB) and REC709 you have to choose the color mode before hand shown here th-cam.com/video/03an7iyhvbQ/w-d-xo.html However, if you have a BenQ SW display then you should use Palette Master Element instead. Guide here th-cam.com/video/8rjRoIe0-mo/w-d-xo.html and best setting to use in this video th-cam.com/video/mArIQgMohtc/w-d-xo.html
Great video! Can i use this to calibrate my TV and use it as a tv? do i need an icc profile, if i do, how does one download it on a tv? thank you vey much!
You can calibrate TV, provided that the source is a computer because of the icc profile. Display calibration can be done on selected display but not necessary with this software. The one that you want to look at is generally from CalMan, which can be pricey, requirer a few additional equipment, a lot of know how.
I have tried CalMAN and it is not for the faintest of hearts. You need a lot of know how, way more than this program, licensing which is costly and instrument that goes beyond consumer level tools. Not to mention the time it takes for calibration, at least 1 hr. Unless you really need it, I would not recommend it.
Thank you! Great Video as always! I have questions about validation for a display on an Apple M2 Max what would be the acceptable range? Or were the numbers you adjusted at the end where standard? What number values should I use for average and max? Thank you!
Anything ∆e under 2 is great for pro workflow. Also give this playlist a watch. It will tell you everything that you need to know about XDR displays and why you shouldn't profile them yet th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
Art, I have the x-rite i1Display Pro, If I get this software (paid upgrade), can the x-rite i1Display Pro along with the software calibrate the iMac 24 inch M1?
Yes or if you like you can use ColorChecker Profiler which is their former software as well. Going to forward Calibrite Profilier will be the program that you should use.
Hello Art! I recently had an issue with my computer and am in the process of reinstalling everything. I have the pallete master icon on my desktop but when I click on it nothing happens. I need to get my monitor (sw2700) calibrated before I can redo all the paper profiles that were trashed yesterday. How do I go about getting this functionality back?
Hey Art, thanks for all your work on the channel! I have a problem I've been trying to solve for hours and I just don't know how to do it. I think I accidentally recalibrated the native Apple XDR Display and no matter what I do, even when I click back on that color profile, it will no longer allow me to view things with the full color spectrum of Apple's display. I did create my own photography color settings as well but when I switch back and forth between the two profiles, they now are identical except for the locked luminance on my photography setting. My question is, how do I reset or recalibrate the Apple XDR Display to go back to its native function? I've tried everything, thank you!
By native you mean the fact that you want to change the brightness manually? Then choose either Apple Display XDR or Apple Display Preset. I highly recommend that you watch all of the videos on this playlist. What you are trying to do with the XDR display is no longer the same as with Apple displays in the past th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
@@ArtIsRight Hey Art thanks for the reply. I just mean as in the colors for Apple Display XDR preset. I'm paranoid that because of Calibrite, it changed the default settings and the colors I'm looking at for the Apple Display XDR is no longer that. I tried pulling up the ColorSync Utility and it says I have 24 profiles that are not correct and when I try to click repair, it won't work. Is it possible for someone to change the color settings for the Apple Display XDR preset? If so, how do I reset those settings to get back to the default colors? Thank you :)
Calibrite is only software, and it changes the ICC nothing else. The software does not have the power nor ability to do that. You don't choose a profile that is not correct and repair them, that is not how it works. Just do a reset in color sync Utility and that will put it back at Apple Default icc. As for presets, if you choose one of the Apple one that is as default as it gets. You can try PRAM reset and see if that helps.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks I tried the solution on their website but it didn't help. I will see if I can give them a call. I used one of your older videos to calibrate my monitor with CCprofiler and it worked well. Thanks!
hey Art, just got calibrite color checker display plus. which one i should download. the Calibrite Profiler or the Calibrite CC Profiler. thanks. am just confused.
Hi Art! I used the ccprofiler before, just payed for this software (with i1Display Pro), but I cannot make new profile on my 16" M1 Max (for it's own screen), because as I can see, this sw is not giving us xy coordinates, which I can type for macOS Photography profile calibrating... Or just I can't find it? I searched at the Custom White Point part... Should I use the previous sw?
This new software is beta, so I would use ColorChecker Profiler for now. I'm sure you seen this already but just incase th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
Art, could you follow-up on the spectrophotometer? As far as I researched it, it seems to be some sort of industrial grade hardware not made for consumers. I would love to see you use that device in your videos and make recommendations wether it's something worth purchasing at some point.
Like anything in the market today there are consumer / pro devices. Some of them are more limiting than other and as price goes up, there are improvements made on both hardware and software. At the consumer level you have Calibrite ColorChecker Studio, that is a consumer spectrophotometer. You can profile paper but granular control is something that you don't have. And the sensor along with the LED light inside is not going to be as good as the more pro one. Then you have X-Rite i1Pro 3, which comes in a variety of sub-versions, all of which are software activated features. At the foundation you are looking at device that cost 3-6 times as much as the consumer one. And yes this is a pro device with software that is still made for general consumption. Then you go up into the color radiometer, those are for real pros. The thing is that for display calibration, colorimeter is better than spectrophotometer. It is faster and cheaper. Unless you have a justifiable need for a Spector don't get one. And if you are looking to get one I would look at i1Basic Pro 3
Apologies for the dumb question. Would this Profiler potentially replace the Pallete Master Element (PME) software I currently use? I ask because I just installed the updated version of PME, and now the software won't load. It keeps going to the opening window, but not not fully loading--so I can't run any calibrations. If Profiler is a new way to go, I'm game to do a beta test if it means I can keep my monitor calibrated.
For Palette Master Element go back and download the last known working version and work with that. And no this software won't replace Palette Master Element, it is design for software calibration only.
@@ArtIsRight - Thanks for clarifying. I guess I got a little excited when I saw the interface here (and was able to find some of the matching settings in PME) and thought this would be an upgrade from PME. :)
Art, thanks for sharing. Any insight as to when BenQ will update their SQ line of photography monitors to have higher nit values that allow for showing the HDR feature in the Camera Raw? I need a BenQ monitor that rivals my Macbook Pro monitor.
You mean SW line, and because these are photo editing displays. I don't see HDR / XDR high nits coming anytime soon. For many reason, engineering factor and integration with OS would be the main issue. There are other HDR high nits displays out in the market right now and sadly they are just more marketing gimmick coupled with a display function that have no real world use and no way as of now to make it work properly.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for the reply Art. Are you familiar with Greg Benz? He has been promoting the HDR capabilities with extensive knowledge. Here's a link to monitors on the market today that can support the tech. Aside from Apple, the Asus Proart display is a contender. BenQ needs to step up. Search GregBenzPhotography best HDR monitors.
I don't know him, but I have tested Asus ProArt display and in short they may be able to do HDR with mini LED but they really are just not that good. I would not in my conscious mind recommend that to anyone, being affiliated with BenQ or not. Also pushing HDR is one thing, it is great to see but like I said in my videos, everything about HDR and photography is in its infancy with no clear de facto standard. It is an emerging tech area in photography that I think can be profound. But if it goes by way of HDR then it is not going to be good. Yes I know that ACR 15.1 Brough HDR support to PC now but even with the term HDR, that is such a broad definition that encompasses so many things. Also unlike video, in photo there's no standard for remapping yet for displays, there's no HDR10, HDR10+, HLG, Dolby Vision, etc. So until that comes, it is a free for all. I am more conservative on this, as profound as I think the tech may be. I would say if you have the compatible displays experiment with it, know about it but don't center your life and edit around it yet.
I'm still working on that video. But in essence what you would do is plug the device in, launch the program and it should ask you to do an upgrade. Video on that will be coming soon.
No, that device should be license already. You really need to upgrade once per calibration device not computer. I'll include this test in the video too.
Great video. I downloaded version 1.0.3 on Feb 3, 2023 and it doesn't say anything about Beta, so maybe that's a production version. I played with it for awhile and found a major hassle. I have a 27-inch iMac and I adjust display brightness with the Brightness slider in System Settings --> Displays because it's very precise. Unfortunately, Profiler takes up the entire screen and I can't get the Displays window open on the screen at the same time. Very difficult to go back and forth. Any suggestions? Am I doing something wrong or is there a better way? Many thanks.
They probably took that out but it is still in beta atm. Many of the functions and some devices support are not there yet. a few ways around this, external display would help. Or I would just use the keyboard. The problem with precision doing in the system preferences / setting is that the slider is arbitrary. With out an instrument you would not know where to put the slider if it changes. So I would use the keyboard brightness keys and you fan fine tune it with this short cut if necessary. th-cam.com/video/zjxvybCJHJo/w-d-xo.html
@@ArtIsRight drive.google.com/file/d/1Bjpv136888eVkoLragI5bgbXF6Z3zkxv/view?usp=sharing (click to see the image) Thanks for the Pro Tip and keep up the good work. I really enjoy your videos and learn a lot. This what I was talking about earlier on my 27-inch iMac. With i1Profiler and ccProfiler, I'm able to have the slider in System -> Displays visible with the brightness adjustment in the profiler software and get really precise adjustments. I haven't been able to do that with calibrite Profiler. Maybe they will fix it soon. Cheers.
@@ArtIsRight Yes, I agree. But there are some LED gaming monitors with QLED technology. For example, the MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD. Thanks for reply so fast.
I hear you but these are generally subset of WLED or RGBLED or some other type of LED back light. QLED is the tech for the pixel of the LCD but there's still a backlight and if you know what backlight these QLED use you can calibrate them. The issue being is that these display are more gaming based and not for pro workflow. So for the company to categorize the spectral data of these displays to generate a proper calibration metric, it is not really something that they would invest the time in. Like I said, if you know the backlight type you can calibrate these display without issues. Things get tricky like OLED because each pixel is self illuminated and miniLED because of the zone but even with miniLED, there's still a backlight and that is still the tech that would be used to calibrate that display.
Also If I use the photo preset in mac pro then I'm not able to manually adjust the brightness while I'm calibrating any thoughts about that? Thank you!
That is the point. You set the brightness to the value that you want, do fine tune calibration and call it the day. There's no point profiling these displays as of now. The software/devices on the market today at consumer level, the one that you and me can afford and have access to, can't calibrate these yet. Also videos on this playlist will tell you everything you need to know. th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
@@ArtIsRight Thank you! I watched all the videos and what I understood is: on my mac pro M2Max change to photography setting adjust the luminance save the preset, then go to Calibrite Profiler and do the white point, update that information and call it good?. Do not use Calibrite Profiler to calibrate the computer? or should I use the Calibrite Profiler to calibrate and then do validation? I guess I'm looking for clarification on step by step with the laptop model I have and the Calibrite Profiler (the newest calibration software) Thank you!
@@ArtIsRight Thank you to do the white point in Calibrite Profiler the option looks different that the cc profile you use in your video. After selecting the measured option,, asked me to choose between 3 options 1-ambient light 2-second screen luminance 3 -paper white point in booth. wich one should I select? Thank you!
@@ArtIsRight I also did a test measuring the second screen option and went well but the result that gave me didn’t include y or x only the luminance and white point. Did prompt me to safe the measurement. But now but where do I get measurements from x and y? Thank you!
Great demo Art. As a Calibrite user, will this new profiler software have the capacity to calibrate the display on the new 16 inch MacBook Pro M1 Max? I recall from your previous videos on calibrating the monitor on the 16 inch MacBook Pro M1 Max, calibrate had some missing pieces in their software to accurately calibrate the monitor. Thank you much for sharing!
I would contact your local Calibrite support for help and also report. This way they can fix the issue. It is in beta, but based on your issue, it might be related to something else beta or not, so I would reach out to support.
Thank you very much, your way of explaining is great. I am a graphic designer, and I want to buy a printer to print my graphic creations, if I buy an I1pro will I need a printer with an integrated spectrometer? Thank you for your help.
You're welcome. If you get a Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro, it will profile your display but not the printer. For the printer, if you are getting a pro level printer, usually when you buy photographic paper they would come with a downloadable profile that you can use, this way you don't have to make your own printer profile. It is a whole different can of worm to get into.
After saving the profile and reminder it does not seem to add and green icon in the top in the nav area showing that it is active.... has anyone experienced this?
This could be a big, I recommend contacting your local Calibrite Support and report this so if it is a variable bug they can log it properly for fixing.
Hello, Art! I have a quick question. I am using 271C and 270 monitors. I've not calibrated the monitors until now. And now I have decided I should. First thing first, between Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro vs Plus which one should i get? Or is there any other option?! I want to buy one properly and use it well for a long time! Thank you soooo much Art!!
Get the Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro don't get the i1 version, they are the same device, but due to various software lock you are better off getting the Calibrite version out right
On my 2019 Intel iMac, when I start the software, it sounds like an airplane starting up. Yes I know I don’t have an M2 chip, but have a pretty decent machine still. 1TB SSD, 128GB RAM, etc. But probably because it’s Beta? And another thing they have to fix, the Dock icon/application icon. Waaaay too big compared to macOS standards, and they have to get rid of the circular shape.
That could be an intel thing, it is not so much other spec other than using a lot of CPU/GPU power in burst and system has to quickly cool it down. Could be based on beta, Idk. For the dock icon, probably, you should contact support and give them this feed back.
@@ArtIsRight I have but most of the time it’s get buried in the dust 😊 I always try to give feedback when I’m using a beta of some kind. But anyway, I can calibrate my monitor just fine, only issue is the noise/fan spinning up… I don’t know, but do 2019 iMac use White LED or..?
I like the advanced settings. I have the spyderx Pro. I still have the option to switch to a calibrite ColorChecker Pro. Should i switch? I've read, that the colorchecker is superior. Whats your opinion amigo?
Let me say this, if you have a SpyderX and it works. Don't need to upgrade yet, just keep using it. But if you are looking for a new one, on an engineering level Calibrite are better in many ways including heritage and lineage as well. TLDR Calibrite devices are powered by X-Rite and have better sensors. In addition X-Rite in their history took over a company called Graylag Macbeth, which is know as the best company in color management for a long time. So many of their tech now is rooted in Graytag. Now price & engineering reason correlation. Calibrite devices like X-Rite has better sensor and the spectral data necessary to calibrate the display is stored in the software. This means that as times goes on when new display tech emerge, Calibrite can just release a software update that would accommodate for new display type, assuming that said new display can be measure reasonably by the current sensor tech. Spyder on the other hand store this data on the device and it is not user upgradable. So when a new display type come out, that measurement sensor is now obsolete or can't calibrate new displays as well any more. Yes, Calibrite devices are a premium over Spyder but they do last way longer, case in point, ColorChecker Display Pro is the same as i1Display Pro which as been out for more than a decade already and it has continue to support newer display tech that has come on the market. And in this time frame Spyder has release 3 new devices already. So yes even though their devices are cheaper, with in the same time span you would have to buy 2 if not 3 devices to calibrate newer display tech. As cheaper as they may be by the time you purchase the second one, it already cost more than a Calibrite pro device. In addition, if you constantly update OS, Spyder has been know to drop new OS support on older devices. So many times you would have to buy a new device out of a necessity as well. Lots to think about here.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for the elaborate explanation my man. Im from Germany and over here it is the same price (roughly 10 Euro difference), so I think its a no brainer then. Thank you sir :)
@@ArtIsRight Because saw videos where people complained about oled monitors used for text reading word/email/website. They said the text does'nt look good.
help! at home I have an iMac 2018 5k retina. it would be great to leave it calibrated for color grading my videos there. I was wondering if anyone has a setup ( display pro) for this machine that works. Cheers!
I would look at this playlist th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q7gkwXbzNrtunoFx8TVZIQe.html Start first by choosing the OS that you have, because there are settings that you have to turn off before calibration. Then afterwards, you can watch this video which is on the play list as well and calibrate th-cam.com/video/JrPdvs2by04/w-d-xo.html
This video is SO helpful. Thank you for taking the time to make it, I was searching and searching before I found your video. Calibrite should link to this video on their website!
They actually have an almost exact copy of this video on their channel as well :) Glad it was helpful.
@@ArtIsRight Funny, I wish the search bar would have showed me either theirs or your video sooner then! I had to get through 3 other videos before I found yours. Thanks again!
Oh no, not good. Do you remember the keyword that you use or the phase, this way I can optimized it.
Software is still limited with only on the fly readings only, 'display cal' can do up to 5 passes on the gray scale readings alone, I recommend setting up the white balance with the hcfr software then finish the rest with display cal
no comment on displaycal
@@ArtIsRight displaycal is not getting updates anymore but the engine it self receives regular updates
That's a great looking, and highly functional, UI.
Agreed!
Is there any support for the x-rite i1pro2 spectrophotometer?
For that you would still use i1Profilier software from X-Rite
14:27 Despite your "low" delta E validation values, the colors of some of the validation circle splits are obviously quite different.
Doesn't this beg the question whether an acceptable delta E should be much lower?
That is more of a visual demonstration more than anything, I would not use that to judge accuracy. As far as ∆e goes, anything under 2 is extremely difficult to tell apart. And it is calculated from a very specific formula. The rule of thumb still applies anything under 2 is great and variation that results from that are extremely difficult to differentiate. So the ∆e recommendation remains the same.
Great video (as usual). Very helpful. I just did the upgrade and calibration and everything seemed to go just fine but I had one small question. Before, there was a CC System Tray notification in the Menu Bar that showed green until time to recalibrate, then it turned red. Now, although I checked to be reminded in 4 weeks, there is no reminder that I can see. How do I know when it is time to recalibrate? Did I miss something? (MacBook M1 running Sonoma btw). Thanks!
No, reminder should be coming via email now. That tray program got eliminated in most part because of conflicts with other calibration software
96 patches for validation is pretty cool! Average deltaE 0.4, not too bad!
0.4 is great
Great review. Looks a lot better than their current rebranded xrite software.
Yes I agree
Great video, Art! Loving the display! It looks really cool in the video!
As to the calibrite software, I tried it and this is just a fresh coat of paint written in React on the same old software, running on Intel and Rosetta. But the old app was so horrific I bought the upgrade!
ok
@@ArtIsRight It won't even recognize my colorchecker studio...
Support for that device is coming later on...this is only the 1.0.3 beta.
The app is very beta, but it looks nice.
What's quite interesting - Because it doesn't force you to close the calibrator, you can keep it in the exact same place where it was calibrating the screen and the validator gives much more flattering deltaE values, like 0.3, 1... I am not sure if this is good or bad, but I like it.
On the other hand, now it's impossible to calibrate a display from an edge, which forces me to adjust the counterweight when switching monitors that are in vertical orientation. I know it's by design and that the center of a display is what we look at the most.
I hope to see many more features coming, like a one click auto workflow for multiple monitors with immediate validation, profiles overwrite (which was possible in earlier software), better algorithms.
Because it doesn't force you to close the calibrator, you can keep it in the exact same place where it was calibrating the screen and the validator gives much more flattering deltaE values, like 0.3, 1... I am not sure if this is good or bad, but I like it."
does not matter whether one closes the calibrator or not between calibration and validation. That has nothing to do with the ∆E number.
Hi there, how come grey scale and gamma were skipped? Does the Calibrate plus HL work with Calman for Panasonic. I don’t have a pattern generator hence why I am stuck with Calman as it’s generated pattern on my Panasonic OLED.
If you are using Panasonic OLED and it is compatible with Calman, use that. Those are different types of calibration altogether.
It has been a while since I have used my i1 Display Pro and I was keen to try this. However, it is asking me to pay to 'upgrade' my device. Considering this software is beta, I am concerned that if I upgrade, I will end up locked into having to spend £££'s on new software after the beta expires.
It is a one time, minimal upgrade fee, which will carry when then product is out of beta as well.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for taking the time to answer. That's very encouraging in that case!!
Art, could you explain why I cannot get my monitors to match the whitepoint exactly, despite the fact that they calibrate to average deltaE < 1?
I have a phosphor one that is warmer than the other two, which are white LED - more on the blueish side.
The readings of the white point are super close to D65, the displays should be identical...
Ok so are these 2 panel different back light? If so the best thing to do is calibrate them independently and choose the proper backlight type for each of them.
Now the reason why you are seeing different color, even though the sensor is measuring D65 on both and each have respective ∆e of less than 1 is because of the following:
In layman terms, different backlight types though measured at the same color temperate will always be perceived differently by human vision. Part of this is because of the backlight and the other part is the display panel layering technology. The specific term for this called illumination metamarism. The key thing here is that they are both at D65 but the spectral output for each of the back light to get to the D65 value is different. Think of LED light, how not all of them are equal even when you set them at D65. That is why there're spectrophotometer that cost $1500 and up to measure the CRI, TLCI, etc. Because even though we see white light, some of the color spectrum might be missing. Hope this helps. If you follow up on this thread please start a new comment, otherwise I'll probably not see it. I'm buried in comments.
What up Art... Thanks for the information and video
Thank you! How have you been?
Can anyone get this software to work on Windows 11? I have a Razer Blader 16 with miniled and the software gets stuck at the pulsing light intro. I need to get this software working. Any ideas on why it might not be loading? Thanks!!
Use the former software ColorChecker Profilier, you can download that from Calibrite.com
@@ArtIsRight I don't see Colorchecker Profilier. I do see iProfiler, however. Is that the right one?
calibrite.com/us/software-downloads/ Scroll down to the blue section - look for ccProfiler
Thank you very much. That was helpful!
You're welcome!
I wish Calibrite software had calibration LUT creation capability.
It seems like all of the calibration software options in the market are only capable of doing half a full calibration. And while it is nice that there are some minor calibration workflow enhancements in the Calibrite profiler software, most are simply a reorganisation of the interface, not an advancement.
What I had hoped for when first I saw the title of your video was that this Calibrite software provided a means of generating a calibration profile for the Calibrite hardware itself to deal with measurement tool drift, and the way the tool interacts with different display panel characteristics.
If Calibrite provided a factory certification hardware profile one could add to proper calibration software. At least initially (before drift) one could create an accurate calibration for professional use without first calibrating the calibration tool with an even more expensive photo spectrometer.
But still Calibrite remains unsuited to video editing for broadcast standards, except at the most primitive hobbyist level. :-((
That why for that level work there's CalMan, different workflow, use, design and intension. And "except at the most primitive hobbyist level" I would not classify it that way and many would not agree; in boardcasting sure, however, I would not cast a wide scope as a trickle down into other video discipline.
very useful video...thank you. now my monitor is calibrated correctly.
Nice!
Hi Art, I have updated my I1 display pro to the Color Checker Display Pro so that I can use Calibrite Profiler. I run a M1 MacBook Pro which I tried to calibrate with that software. I successfully created a photography profile and also a second print profile. My problem now is that I need to go back into the Calibrite software to swap the profiles and the second problem is that the color temperature changes but not the brightness. I wished that either X-Rite or Calibrite supports their software with proper instructions. Have you or any of your subscribers worked out a way yet to use the software on M1 or M2 MacBook Pros?
First, change icc profile in system preferences - displays or system settings - displays. No need to go back into the app. Icc profile does not have luminance control parameter, that is done on the display only. You can run the software on any Apple Silicon, however, if one has a 14" or 16" MacBook Pro or Apple Pro Display XDR, calibration should not be done yet. An update is needed and over due at this point, but I digress.
Hey there, I review laptop panels and currently use SpyderX because in their software I can get an analysis of the display’s brightness in nits at different levels (0%, 25%, etc.) and it also gives me a readout of the display’s coverage of different gamut’s like DCI-P3 as a percentage. Is there any way to do that with this software? I have a Display Pro Plus as well but can’t seem to find anything like that.
You can get the read out in nits, but not the analysis of what comes before the calibration. All those measure pre calibration from a colorimeter is an approximation at best and is not necessary an accurate assessment of the display
How do you know what is your display's technology type? I have a Macbook Pro 16" 2019 and I can't find any information on this. I also have an old Apple 27" cinema display (which I need to replace, what do you recommend for photography editing?) Thanks
16" MBP 2019 is PFS Phosphor. Old Apple Cinema, I believe is GB-LED. I have to double check this. You can also email Calibrite support and they will get the answers to you rather quickly. For photo editing, IU would recommend BenQ SW series
@@ArtIsRight okay thanks I did figure out the PFS one for my MBP
Hi Art, very interesting explanation. Bu i have a dumb question. I have done the calibration with Calibrite Profiler and my new Color Checker display Plus. So my screen setting on win10 show me now selected the new color profile. But i don't understand, what about the color mode on my screen? does this new calibration must be assigned to "calibration 1 -2 or 3, or custom 1 or 2" and in cas it does, how it has to be done? thank you
What display do you have, specific model please
Great info! I just used this software to calibrate my BenQ PD2700U with a new DisplaySL colorimeter. After about 2-3 years it seemed my monitor shifted from the factory calibration just slightly and this was fairly easy process for a relative newbie. Anyway, I've caught your other calibration videos and was wondering if you think it is worth doing another calibration in Davinci Resolve if grading and editing in DR. There are a handful of YT videos on doing this but they are all over the place in terms of settings. I don't have a separate reference monitor so I use the BenQ PD2700 set up in Rec 709, which is on Gamma 2.4 according the the Display Pilot settings info. If you use Davinci Resolve and recommend a calibration - would love to see a tutorial!
No need and sadly many other channel don't know what they are talking about most of the time when it comes to color
@@ArtIsRight Thanks! Yeah I can't understand why I would need to make a separate second calibration using the monitor calibration function under workspace to work in DR and use its window view. The reasoning according to some is that DR does not use the icc profiles stored on operating systems but if it doesn't use the icc profile what would it use? I shoot video for personal and an occasional company webinar/tutorial, etc. so not absolutely critical. Thanks again.
@@markamarkam If you change ICC profile while having DR open you will see that the image is changing so it seems that it doesn't override the ICC profile, I don't even know if that would be possible. It is of course not affecting the rendering process, maybe that's what the sources you mention talked about.
Mr artisright who is better for games 2.2 or bt1886 (oled tv)?
2.2, BT1886 is a gamma curved that is logarithmic and track closer to gamma 2.4 it is for video editing workflow.
@@ArtIsRight thx alot Mr ArtIsRight
Unfortunately, according this demo in this software we cat measure only on center of screen. What about corners?
it is according to the software. standard practice, only thing you can do is let the corners fall where they may. You can check but that is about it. display profile works globally for the entire screen not segments of it.
Nice, if is posible to know wich one is for multiple monitors/pcs?
all of them can calibrate multiple display and Mac or pc
I don't know how many prints I wasted before I found out that I need to profile my monitor. This is very important if you are making prints
Yes it is
Got this new calibrite device, and I don't get one thing and the latest profiler app from them. My monitor is Acer Predator X32 FP, it has a wide gamut. So I do everything like this video is showing, but in the end my profile seem to be wide gamut as well, unlike on this video where calibrated profile is almost covering sRGB. Also I don't get one more thing, durring calibration I set up a certain brightness and RGB values, but when I return to beginning of calibration the values I just set up are off, and the app is telling me to adjust it even more further. in example, 30 brightnes was 118 candels for me, but when I re-run the calibration again I had to lower it ti 25 brightness in order to achive target brightness. Similary for RGB gain sliders. My goal is to calibrate my monitor the way it displays sRGB only, without turning the sRGB emulation in monitor OSD. I also don't want to use apps like no video, as its crashing on me.
"So I do everything like this video is showing, but in the end my profile seem to be wide gamut as well, unlike on this video where calibrated profile is almost covering sRGB."
This is not clear to me, so you are getting full wide gamut but you want to have sRGB? If so choose sRGB as the color mode on your display. Or you can rephrase the question and give me a bit more context.
"Also I don't get one more thing, durring calibration I set up a certain brightness and RGB values, but when I return to beginning of calibration the values I just set up are off, and the app is telling me to adjust it even more further. in example, 30 brightnes was 118 candels for me, but when I re-run the calibration again I had to lower it ti 25 brightness in order to achive target brightness. Similary for RGB gain sliders. My goal is to calibrate my monitor the way it displays sRGB only, without turning the sRGB emulation in monitor OSD. I also don't want to use apps like no video, as its crashing on me."
it seems to me that your display OSD is changing the entire output of the display. I have seen this before, when you are in the display menu everything changes and when the OSD is gone something has change again. Your only way around this is set a short time out and just change - wait for the OSD to disappear and repeat.
@@ArtIsRight I took my calibrite device to a friend who has totally different display and OSD (WLED Philips vs mine Mini-LED), and I experienced the same there. Anyway... his calibration results were perfect, delta around 0.5. While mine is 2 and more, and I cannot calibrate my screen properly. Maybe I'm selecting wrong panel type, but mine panel is mini-led so I'm selecting it in the app.
I see, most mini LED, it would be tough to get a max below 2. If you like, you can dm me. But from what you are telling me, it is with in parameter.
wow what a great video thank you...
Thanks
Thanks for the video, looking forward to your calibration on Macbook Pro M2 series by this software. Cheers.
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does this software work with the i1DisplayPro?
it's a paid upgrade - $9.99
Yes and it is a one time upgrade fee of $9.99 and this upgrade will carry over when the software is out of beta as well.
Thanks for the video. I am now using the new software and wanted to ask how I save the profiles directly in the monitor. I use a BenQ SW2700 and was able to save 2 profiles directly in the monitor with the old software.
You can’t with Calibrite profiler. You never could with third-party software. You have to use pallet master element in order for you to do that.
@@ArtIsRight thank you very much.
Is there a panel native on this software? Thank you
This is software profiling, so no. But you can set the display to custom color mode and that is going to be as close to panel native as you can get on software profiled displays.
If have a monitor lg, it has "lg calibration studio", should I use calibrite software or lg software?
I would test, that software is acting more like Calibrite software to what is called a "software calibration"
How do i make a HDR profile in windows for my LG C2 TV 42’ i use as a monitor?
Do i set the windows hdr slider to 100?
Do i disable tone mapping?
Please make a video on this it will help alot of oled users
The short answer is you can't as of yet. If you want to do that. you can set the brightness to full 100% on the display from there run the calibration and set the luminance to native. Tonal mapping enabled or disabled when running the calibration won't matter much. You can only use this icc profile on a computer source because it necessitate the icc profile And there no way to apply an icc profile to the C2 for other sources. Even then, it won't be a true HDR REC 2020 Profile. If you, however, want to calibrate your C2, I think you might be able to use CalMAN software to do that, You have to check and if you can, that would be a calibration for the C2 independent of any computer.
Hi Art, is the software still in Beta? The vid is 10 months old. thanks Art
not any more
Hello Art, now with version 1.1.5 are there any news about profiling Liquid Retina XDR display on Macbook Pro?
Thank you for the notice, tested it already. No update on this front yet
Sad story, thanks as usual!
Another technical question: Is Calibrite Profiler able to validate the gamma of the monitor?
Gamma is a curve and it is a log value, set in the icc, validation is no needed
Sorry, but the question I came with is what are the differences between i1Profiler and Calibrite Profiler? I thought you were going to answer that question.
I did in the intro. This is the software going forward for Calibrite that combines ccProfilier and ccStudio together. They redesigned the GUI and make it easier with more visual feed back.
@@ArtIsRight Right, thank you. I just don't know what that means.
ok
Hi. When I try to adjust the brightness from the monitor menu, Calibrite does not show the brightness line going up or down, it remains the same. If I use 1profiler, everything works fine. I got a 4k 32 LG display.
I would reach out to Calibrite support in this situation, this way they can figure out if this is a bug and log it properly
Can the Datacolor Spyder X be used to calibrate the Apple Studio display?
Yes I would still follow this guide th-cam.com/video/7_EIy60UBTU/w-d-xo.html when it reach the calibration stage just use your Spyder device and software.
I was looking forward to using this and once I fired up the program with my Pro Plus connected it asked me to upgrade for $9.99. 😒
Yes those are for X-Rite devices. The upgrade will take you through to the full version. 1 Time purchase.
Thanks for this tutorial. I calibrated my new monitor and find that the colors now look muted less vibrant after calibration. I calibrated with match Photo settings on the new Calibrite Profiler v 1.0.4. Is there a way to revert back to original color profile? I prefer the original colors under normal media consumption and would only like to switch to color corrected mode during photo editing / printing only. Or is there a calibrate setting that would make the colors look like how it originally was? I'm on a Apple M1 Pro system using LG 38WN95C monitor. Any advice appreciated.
Just change the profile in system preference or system settings - displays. Select the display and change the profile there
Great video as always. I have one question: I use your video where you explain how to calibrate my Macbook Pro with apple silicon and macOs Ventura and the first step is to introduce the fine tune values for white point (x/y) and luminance. With the previos Calibrite software you could get this values as explained on your video and introduce them in the macOS preferences, but I don't see this option on this new software. Do you know how to do it and get this values? I have tried to do custom white point measurement but it don't display x/y value.
for now you can use ColorChecker Profilier to get the values.
Almost identical process to my X-Rite color munki. Is the hardware compatible?
with the software, sure, you will have to pay a 1 time licensing fee of $9.99
@@ArtIsRight Thanks. Unfortunately although my computer recognises the ColorMunki, the USB goes bing and it appears in the device manager list, the software refuses to acknowledge that it is connected. Maybe this is a Windows 11 problem.
I would contact your local Calibrite support for help on this
Hi. Thanks for video :) does this device measure the ambient light in the room? does it adjust the brightness of the screen to the light in the room? Can I turn off the lights while measuring brightness? or should they be turned on?
yes, however, professional should never use this function
I'm on the screen where you place the calibration device in the circle. The "Next" button is grayed out so I can't advance. Any suggestions?
You are probably in demo mode, which means your device didn't activate the program. If you have an x-rite device you have to do a 1 time upgrade of $9.99 if you have a Calibrite device, it should work, I would give app a restart with the device plugged in and sees where this takes you.
Hi Art, will this work with my Colorchecker studio hardware?
Yes but since the software is in beta, that devices is not supported as of now.
Always helpful, somehow went without using the calibrite software
thanks
A technical question, Calibrite does not answer it.
I noticed that my Colormunki Photo is not working on the Mac Mini M2 Pro.
Do you know if the Colorchecker Studio is compatible with the M2 Pro processor?
ColorChecker studio and ColorMunki Photo is the exact same device as the i1Studio and all of them will work with Calibrite ColorChecker Studio software and you can get it to work with Calibrite Profilier with a onetime $9.99 upgrade fee. Hope this helps. If you have any follow up questions, I recommend starting a new comment, this way I'll see it :)
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for your quick reaction. Can you provide me a link to this upgrade fee please?
I have a technical question about monitor calibration: I am asked to choose a white point when I calibrate a monitor using Calibrite Profiler. However, it doesn't ask me to choose white point during validation. Could you please explain why that is the case? I thought that the same RGB values have different meanings under different white points. So why is validation white point independent?
You will always have to validate the display with the same white point as calibration. That should never change. The validation is not white point independent it is tied to the profile and display setting
Hi Art! I really need your help! 🙏
I’ve just bought the ColorChecker Display Plus and have installed the Calibrite Profiler (I have an iMac Retina 5k 2020), I have followed your instructions and because I’m a professional photographer I chose the highest “patch value”. Everything seems Ok and the calibration process starts but when it reaches to 357 patches of 461 patches left (the process doesn’t reach halfway through) the entire process stops and a pop-up windows shows up in the middle of the screen saying “Warning. Exit Process” and all I can do is to click OK and I am then back to “Ready to measure”.
Why?! 😢 I have tried several times now and no matter what I do it just doesn’t work 😔 What can I be doing wrong?
I just tried to use the Xrite software instead and that worked! 😮 Does that mean that there is a bug in the Calibrite Profiler software? 🤔
So you can use X-Rite i1Profiler or you can use Calibrite ColorChecker Profiler as well, they are technically the same software. And I'm glad that it worked out. About the calibration stop in Calibrite Profilier, it would seems there is a bug in the software. If you would be so kind, please contact Calibrite and report this to them so they can log and track this bug because this is not the first instance of me hearing about this type of behavior.
Great introduction!
Do you know if it improves compatibility with MBP XDR displays?
So far it seems that no software is capable of properly calibrating those great displays.
No that area is still the same as the last time I checked. I think that we might come to a point where the hardware is the limitation, I don't know. But I know that there are people smarter than me working on this. As soon as something comes out, I'll post about it.
Excellent! I have just bought a Benq Pd3220u, and coming from a Dell, It's a step upward.
When I calibrate with my Calibrite Display Plus, should I put the display in "User" mode, or does that matter? Afterwards I will use the ICC profile on my Windows computer.
Thanks for your tons of information!
Kind Regards, Jan from DK
User mode or one of the P3 will do. User mode in a way is Panel Native based on P3
Have a question for you I have a 27 inch BenQ PD monitor will this software work on it?
Yes
HI Art - Really enjoy your channel and have been using the new Calibrate Profiler software. I have what may be a dumb question, but on a Mac Studio Display (Sonoma) how do you adjust the luminance when the brightness controls have been disabled in the display settings?
You don't, what you would do with Studio Display is as follows: th-cam.com/video/PLB93k9UYWc/w-d-xo.html let me know if you have any question by starting a new thread, that video will walk you through everything
Hi Art, I am using i1 Display PLUS and i1 Profiler app on M2 max macbook pro. when try to cal the monitor, it shows Failed to find any displays. Please make sure you have the correct licensee file install. have you every use i1 Display PLUS to cal the m2max MacBook pro? thanks mate
I know, so there was a change with M2 PRO / MAX, Calibrite Profilier 1.0.4 fixed this issue but to get that you might have to download 1.0.3 from Calibrite website and then use automatic update to get the latest version. As far as i1Profilier or ccProfilier an update coming, it is just a matter of time. I know that have a fix implemented already. But waiting for the build to be released.
Side note, I would just do a fine tune calibrate on the XDR displays and not calibrate them yet. At this point in time, there no consumer device that can calibrate these miniLED adequately. I have a playlist that talks about all of this here th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
And specifically if you like to know the "why" this video have the answers for you th-cam.com/video/nFIv3pWXMl8/w-d-xo.html
@@ArtIsRight thanks a lot art
Hi. Does that software support older hardware like colormunki design? Do I have options for upgrade to use the latest version?
Yes and yes, There's a 1 time upgrade fee for the older devices to use this software th-cam.com/video/dwnpsaJKB40/w-d-xo.html
So I did a text calibration using both Calibrite Profiler & CCProfiler using the Display Plus with the same settings and the resulting profile was completely different which is a little concerning. Thoughts?
defined "completely different"
Thanks a lot for the video. I wanted to ask if there is a specific video for studio displays and if the SW is already available for the end user or still in beta. Thanks and good job. Christian
This software and studio display, I don't have any a guide for that and may not have one. New SWs are going to be available sometime late June. The software for SW Palette Master Ultimate is available for Windows now and Mac in a few weeks.
Are the changes enabling us to calibrate/profile the new MacBook Pros?
XDR display, at the moment, no.
Calibrate removed the M2 Pro / Max disclaimer from their downloads page, but it still doesn't work properly. I just tried it out and I can read the x point, y point, and luminance for my 27" Apple Studio Display. When I go to do the calibration only the 118 patch option is available and when measuring, it times gives an error when it gets to patch 74. I tried a few times and it did the same thing. I guess further updates are still needed. At least the Fine Tune Calibration from Apple gets us mostly there. And the ccProfiler has not been updated for a long time.
Are you using 1.0.4? Also I have not encountered this error in my testings. I would recommend that you contact your local calibrite support this way they can note and properly log this issue.
@@ArtIsRight I tried again today after a restart and all the patch option show up but it sill times out for each of the 3 sets when it gets to the light purple color. However, when I change the technology type from GB-LED to White LED it works without any problems. This is for my Apple Studio Display.
For the studio display, I would look at this playlist th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q4nRmwT4jHxhkrUAzjYGH59.html
GB-LED is the correct one and it is interesting that it crashes.
Is Datacoloe SpyderXPro is good enough calibrating monitors connected to mac system good as you are showing in this Video??
They get the job done but not as well as Calibrite devices.
@@ArtIsRight What is the difference?
Let me say this, if you have a SpyderX and it works. Don't need to upgrade yet, just keep using it. But if you are looking for a new one, on an engineering level Calibrite are better in many ways including heritage and lineage as well. TLDR iCalibrite devices are powered by X-Rite and have better sensor on the inside. In addition X-Rite in their history took over a company called Graylag Macbeth, which is know as the best company in color management for a long time. So many of their tech now is rooted in Graylag. Now price & engineering reason correlation. Calibrite devices like X-Rite has better sensor and the spectral data necessary to calibrate the display is stored in the software. This means that as times goes on when new display tech emerge, Calibrite can just release a software update that would accommodate for new display type, assuming that said new display can be measure reasonably by the current sensor. Spyder on the other hand store this data on the device and it is not user upgradable. So when a new display type come out, that measurement sensor is now obsolete or can't calibrate new displays well any more.
Yes, Calibrite devices are a premium over Spyder but they do last way longer, case in point, ColorChecker Display Pro is the same as i1Display Pro which as been out for more than a decade already and it has continue to support newer display tech that has come on the market. And in this time frame Spyder has release 3 new devices already. So yes even though their devices are cheaper, with in the same time span you would have to buy 2 if not 3 devices to calibrate newer display tech. As cheaper as they may be by the time you purchase the second one, it already cost more than a Calibrite pro device. In addition, if you constantly update OS, Spyder has been know to drop new OS support on older devices. So you some time would have to buy a new device out of a necessity as well. Lots to think about here.
Trying the Which software should I use? CcProfiler or Calibrite Profiler? Using the new Calibrite Profiler v 1.2.3, I cant get it to finish the calibration and the software hangs, so the color profile wont load at windows startup so I'm still presently using ccProfiler. Also getting wildly different results using ccProfiler vs Calibrite Profiler, not anywhere near the same calibration using the calibrate color checker plus colorimeter.
ColorChecker Display Plus device Calibrite Profilier is really one that you should use, however, if it crashes then ccProfiler will work just as well. I would contact their support team, just so that they can make a case about this to log it for potential bug and fixes, which may benefit other users as well.
@@ArtIsRight Hi Art, thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'll re-install and try the calibrate profiler again and see what happens. Do you know if it matters to have both softwares installed at the same time?
Art I've recently purchased the Color Checker STUDIO and am trying calibrate my Benq SW270C. I'm using an Apple M2 Max running Ventura 13.4.1 . Color Checker just doesn't seem to connect and just shows up a Demo. Any thoughts? Thank you and love your channel.
You are using Calibrite Profilier correct? Since you have a BenQ SW that is capable of hardware calibration, why don't you use Palette Master Ultimate instead from BenQ. It is much better suited calibration software for your display. Also if you do choose i1Studio fro the list.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks Art. I was using the hardware calibration but my prints were way out. e.g. beautiful pink skies came out yellow. That was the reason to to purchase the ccSTUDIO. I'm just doing a paper profile and will see what come out. I must admit the hardware calibration is a lot easier. Thoughts?
I finally figured it out Art. It was the printer drivers. I had to uninstall and reinstall them. It was an expensive and big time suck. Back to using Palette Master and life is good again!
Thank you Art! I need to Custom Profile Inkjet Paper with X-Rite i1Studio! How do I get the profile? Just got a new PC, Windows 11. Thank Rees
For the time being use ColorChecker Studio Software th-cam.com/video/72t7EuLvDaQ/w-d-xo.html This ia guide for X-Rite but it is the same software.
Great reviews you are doing ArtisRight. I do have 1 question with the new software Calibrite Profiler, you might be able to enlight me in. I have a BenQ 32" monitor - but i cant see how to save to the monitor profiles in this software when i calibrate. Calibration 1-2-3. I do use it for Photo Adobe Rgb but also Video Rec709. Did i miss this in some of the videoes. Anyway thanx for your great work.
If you have a BenQ PD display line then this software is the one to use. th-cam.com/video/E5zZyhMFKOI/w-d-xo.html This is the point in the video where you save the profile. If you have a PD, and you want to calibrate Adobe RGB (only 1 PD model support Adobe RGB) and REC709 you have to choose the color mode before hand shown here th-cam.com/video/03an7iyhvbQ/w-d-xo.html
However, if you have a BenQ SW display then you should use Palette Master Element instead. Guide here th-cam.com/video/8rjRoIe0-mo/w-d-xo.html and best setting to use in this video th-cam.com/video/mArIQgMohtc/w-d-xo.html
Great video! Can i use this to calibrate my TV and use it as a tv? do i need an icc profile, if i do, how does one download it on a tv? thank you vey much!
You can calibrate TV, provided that the source is a computer because of the icc profile. Display calibration can be done on selected display but not necessary with this software. The one that you want to look at is generally from CalMan, which can be pricey, requirer a few additional equipment, a lot of know how.
Would you recommend using this rather than Palette Master Element from BenQ?
Nope 2 totally different calibration concept.
Have you tried Patterns from Portrait Displays?
You can't use that with this program. Totally different program.
@@ArtIsRight that’s why I asked
I have tried CalMAN and it is not for the faintest of hearts. You need a lot of know how, way more than this program, licensing which is costly and instrument that goes beyond consumer level tools. Not to mention the time it takes for calibration, at least 1 hr. Unless you really need it, I would not recommend it.
Thank you! Great Video as always! I have questions about validation for a display on an Apple M2 Max what would be the acceptable range? Or were the numbers you adjusted at the end where standard? What number values should I use for average and max? Thank you!
Anything ∆e under 2 is great for pro workflow. Also give this playlist a watch. It will tell you everything that you need to know about XDR displays and why you shouldn't profile them yet th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
Art, I have the x-rite i1Display Pro, If I get this software (paid upgrade), can the x-rite i1Display Pro along with the software calibrate the iMac 24 inch M1?
Yes or if you like you can use ColorChecker Profiler which is their former software as well. Going to forward Calibrite Profilier will be the program that you should use.
Hello Art!
I recently had an issue with my computer and am in the process of reinstalling everything. I have the pallete master icon on my desktop but when I click on it nothing happens. I need to get my monitor (sw2700) calibrated before I can redo all the paper profiles that were trashed yesterday. How do I go about getting this functionality back?
download the app and reinstall it, probably you are setting a short cut or alias that no longer links to the actual app.
Hey Art, thanks for all your work on the channel! I have a problem I've been trying to solve for hours and I just don't know how to do it. I think I accidentally recalibrated the native Apple XDR Display and no matter what I do, even when I click back on that color profile, it will no longer allow me to view things with the full color spectrum of Apple's display.
I did create my own photography color settings as well but when I switch back and forth between the two profiles, they now are identical except for the locked luminance on my photography setting. My question is, how do I reset or recalibrate the Apple XDR Display to go back to its native function? I've tried everything, thank you!
By native you mean the fact that you want to change the brightness manually? Then choose either Apple Display XDR or Apple Display Preset. I highly recommend that you watch all of the videos on this playlist. What you are trying to do with the XDR display is no longer the same as with Apple displays in the past th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
@@ArtIsRight Hey Art thanks for the reply. I just mean as in the colors for Apple Display XDR preset. I'm paranoid that because of Calibrite, it changed the default settings and the colors I'm looking at for the Apple Display XDR is no longer that. I tried pulling up the ColorSync Utility and it says I have 24 profiles that are not correct and when I try to click repair, it won't work.
Is it possible for someone to change the color settings for the Apple Display XDR preset? If so, how do I reset those settings to get back to the default colors? Thank you :)
Calibrite is only software, and it changes the ICC nothing else. The software does not have the power nor ability to do that. You don't choose a profile that is not correct and repair them, that is not how it works. Just do a reset in color sync Utility and that will put it back at Apple Default icc. As for presets, if you choose one of the Apple one that is as default as it gets. You can try PRAM reset and see if that helps.
This new software isn't detecting my color checker display pro on my mac book all it shows is a flashing screen.
Contact your local support for help, internet access is required.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks I tried the solution on their website but it didn't help. I will see if I can give them a call. I used one of your older videos to calibrate my monitor with CCprofiler and it worked well. Thanks!
hey Art, just got calibrite color checker display plus. which one i should download. the Calibrite Profiler or the Calibrite CC Profiler. thanks. am just confused.
You can use either one. ColorChecker Profilier is still current and works well. If you want to use the latest go with Calibrite Profilier.
@@ArtIsRight thank u.
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Hi Art! I used the ccprofiler before, just payed for this software (with i1Display Pro), but I cannot make new profile on my 16" M1 Max (for it's own screen), because as I can see, this sw is not giving us xy coordinates, which I can type for macOS Photography profile calibrating... Or just I can't find it? I searched at the Custom White Point part... Should I use the previous sw?
This new software is beta, so I would use ColorChecker Profiler for now. I'm sure you seen this already but just incase th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
@@ArtIsRight Yeah, I've seen all already. 🙂 thx!
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Art, could you follow-up on the spectrophotometer?
As far as I researched it, it seems to be some sort of industrial grade hardware not made for consumers.
I would love to see you use that device in your videos and make recommendations wether it's something worth purchasing at some point.
Like anything in the market today there are consumer / pro devices. Some of them are more limiting than other and as price goes up, there are improvements made on both hardware and software. At the consumer level you have Calibrite ColorChecker Studio, that is a consumer spectrophotometer. You can profile paper but granular control is something that you don't have. And the sensor along with the LED light inside is not going to be as good as the more pro one. Then you have X-Rite i1Pro 3, which comes in a variety of sub-versions, all of which are software activated features. At the foundation you are looking at device that cost 3-6 times as much as the consumer one. And yes this is a pro device with software that is still made for general consumption. Then you go up into the color radiometer, those are for real pros. The thing is that for display calibration, colorimeter is better than spectrophotometer. It is faster and cheaper. Unless you have a justifiable need for a Spector don't get one. And if you are looking to get one I would look at i1Basic Pro 3
Apologies for the dumb question. Would this Profiler potentially replace the Pallete Master Element (PME) software I currently use? I ask because I just installed the updated version of PME, and now the software won't load. It keeps going to the opening window, but not not fully loading--so I can't run any calibrations. If Profiler is a new way to go, I'm game to do a beta test if it means I can keep my monitor calibrated.
For Palette Master Element go back and download the last known working version and work with that. And no this software won't replace Palette Master Element, it is design for software calibration only.
@@ArtIsRight - Thanks for clarifying. I guess I got a little excited when I saw the interface here (and was able to find some of the matching settings in PME) and thought this would be an upgrade from PME. :)
Art, thanks for sharing. Any insight as to when BenQ will update their SQ line of photography monitors to have higher nit values that allow for showing the HDR feature in the Camera Raw? I need a BenQ monitor that rivals my Macbook Pro monitor.
You mean SW line, and because these are photo editing displays. I don't see HDR / XDR high nits coming anytime soon. For many reason, engineering factor and integration with OS would be the main issue. There are other HDR high nits displays out in the market right now and sadly they are just more marketing gimmick coupled with a display function that have no real world use and no way as of now to make it work properly.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for the reply Art. Are you familiar with Greg Benz? He has been promoting the HDR capabilities with extensive knowledge. Here's a link to monitors on the market today that can support the tech. Aside from Apple, the Asus Proart display is a contender. BenQ needs to step up. Search GregBenzPhotography best HDR monitors.
I don't know him, but I have tested Asus ProArt display and in short they may be able to do HDR with mini LED but they really are just not that good. I would not in my conscious mind recommend that to anyone, being affiliated with BenQ or not. Also pushing HDR is one thing, it is great to see but like I said in my videos, everything about HDR and photography is in its infancy with no clear de facto standard. It is an emerging tech area in photography that I think can be profound. But if it goes by way of HDR then it is not going to be good. Yes I know that ACR 15.1 Brough HDR support to PC now but even with the term HDR, that is such a broad definition that encompasses so many things. Also unlike video, in photo there's no standard for remapping yet for displays, there's no HDR10, HDR10+, HLG, Dolby Vision, etc. So until that comes, it is a free for all. I am more conservative on this, as profound as I think the tech may be. I would say if you have the compatible displays experiment with it, know about it but don't center your life and edit around it yet.
does this new software Calibrite PROFILER work in i1display plus?
yes but it requirer a one time upgrade fee of $9.99
@@ArtIsRight can you give me tutorial to upgrade i1display plus ?
I'm still working on that video. But in essence what you would do is plug the device in, launch the program and it should ask you to do an upgrade. Video on that will be coming soon.
@@ArtIsRight if im installed this software on another PC, do I have to upgrade the software again?
No, that device should be license already. You really need to upgrade once per calibration device not computer. I'll include this test in the video too.
I have the ColorChecker Display device, do I have to pay for this? How does it compares to the DisplayCAL profiler?
For your device, no need to pay. DisplayCAL is a open source software that is using unlicensed drivers. I don't recommend DisplayCAL.
Great video. I downloaded version 1.0.3 on Feb 3, 2023 and it doesn't say anything about Beta, so maybe that's a production version.
I played with it for awhile and found a major hassle. I have a 27-inch iMac and I adjust display brightness with the Brightness slider in System Settings --> Displays because it's very precise. Unfortunately, Profiler takes up the entire screen and I can't get the Displays window open on the screen at the same time. Very difficult to go back and forth. Any suggestions? Am I doing something wrong or is there a better way? Many thanks.
They probably took that out but it is still in beta atm. Many of the functions and some devices support are not there yet.
a few ways around this, external display would help. Or I would just use the keyboard. The problem with precision doing in the system preferences / setting is that the slider is arbitrary. With out an instrument you would not know where to put the slider if it changes. So I would use the keyboard brightness keys and you fan fine tune it with this short cut if necessary. th-cam.com/video/zjxvybCJHJo/w-d-xo.html
@@ArtIsRight
drive.google.com/file/d/1Bjpv136888eVkoLragI5bgbXF6Z3zkxv/view?usp=sharing (click to see the image)
Thanks for the Pro Tip and keep up the good work. I really enjoy your videos and learn a lot.
This what I was talking about earlier on my 27-inch iMac. With i1Profiler and ccProfiler, I'm able to have the slider in System -> Displays visible with the brightness adjustment in the profiler software and get really precise adjustments. I haven't been able to do that with calibrite Profiler. Maybe they will fix it soon. Cheers.
Let me give them this feed back. Thanks for sharing.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks, Art. I sent them an email with the suggestion too. Take care.
Is there anywhere you can select which calibration slot you want it to change for Benq monitors or is this just to create a software profile.
This is just software calibration. To learn more th-cam.com/video/9hVfwW9LK8E/w-d-xo.html
@@ArtIsRight out of interest in your experience which performs better, the software or hardware profile?
All based on use care, if you have hardware calibration use that function. Why buy a nice sport car to drive in first gear at 10 mph all the time :D
CAn you calibrate lg oled c2 and MacBook Pro m1?
Yes
I think ColorChecker should have introduced the missing backlight types: QLED and QD-OLED (Samsung). Nice video. Thanks
Those are more TV based, we have to see if they introduced it.
@@ArtIsRight Yes, I agree. But there are some LED gaming monitors with QLED technology. For example, the MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD. Thanks for reply so fast.
I hear you but these are generally subset of WLED or RGBLED or some other type of LED back light. QLED is the tech for the pixel of the LCD but there's still a backlight and if you know what backlight these QLED use you can calibrate them. The issue being is that these display are more gaming based and not for pro workflow. So for the company to categorize the spectral data of these displays to generate a proper calibration metric, it is not really something that they would invest the time in. Like I said, if you know the backlight type you can calibrate these display without issues. Things get tricky like OLED because each pixel is self illuminated and miniLED because of the zone but even with miniLED, there's still a backlight and that is still the tech that would be used to calibrate that display.
Also If I use the photo preset in mac pro then I'm not able to manually adjust the brightness while I'm calibrating any thoughts about that? Thank you!
That is the point. You set the brightness to the value that you want, do fine tune calibration and call it the day. There's no point profiling these displays as of now. The software/devices on the market today at consumer level, the one that you and me can afford and have access to, can't calibrate these yet. Also videos on this playlist will tell you everything you need to know. th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
@@ArtIsRight Thank you! I watched all the videos and what I understood is: on my mac pro M2Max change to photography setting adjust the luminance save the preset, then go to Calibrite Profiler and do the white point, update that information and call it good?. Do not use Calibrite Profiler to calibrate the computer? or should I use the Calibrite Profiler to calibrate and then do validation? I guess I'm looking for clarification on step by step with the laptop model I have and the Calibrite Profiler (the newest calibration software) Thank you!
Stop at white point fine tuned. :D
@@ArtIsRight Thank you to do the white point in Calibrite Profiler the option looks different that the cc profile you use in your video. After selecting the measured option,, asked me to choose between 3 options 1-ambient light 2-second screen luminance 3 -paper white point in booth. wich one should I select? Thank you!
@@ArtIsRight I also did a test measuring the second screen option and went well but the result that gave me didn’t include y or x only the luminance and white point. Did prompt me to safe the measurement. But now but where do I get measurements from x and y? Thank you!
Great demo Art. As a Calibrite user, will this new profiler software have the capacity to calibrate the display on the new 16 inch MacBook Pro M1 Max? I recall from your previous videos on calibrating the monitor on the 16 inch MacBook Pro M1 Max, calibrate had some missing pieces in their software to accurately calibrate the monitor. Thank you much for sharing!
Not at the moment for any Apple XDR displays. And thank you!
Installed it, crashes everytime when saving the profile. Right now I can't use it for calibrating.
I would contact your local Calibrite support for help and also report. This way they can fix the issue. It is in beta, but based on your issue, it might be related to something else beta or not, so I would reach out to support.
Thank you very much, your way of explaining is great.
I am a graphic designer, and I want to buy a printer to print my graphic creations, if I buy an I1pro will I need a printer with an integrated spectrometer?
Thank you for your help.
You're welcome. If you get a Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro, it will profile your display but not the printer. For the printer, if you are getting a pro level printer, usually when you buy photographic paper they would come with a downloadable profile that you can use, this way you don't have to make your own printer profile. It is a whole different can of worm to get into.
@@ArtIsRight thank you bro
After saving the profile and reminder it does not seem to add and green icon in the top in the nav area showing that it is active.... has anyone experienced this?
This could be a big, I recommend contacting your local Calibrite Support and report this so if it is a variable bug they can log it properly for fixing.
@@ArtIsRight Does the older ccProfiler and ccProfilerTray have to be deleted prior to installing the new 1.04 version?
ccProfiler can live on the system. Tray should be removed from start up, otherwise 2 programs would be running and conflicting each other.
Hello, Art!
I have a quick question.
I am using 271C and 270 monitors.
I've not calibrated the monitors until now.
And now I have decided I should.
First thing first, between Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro vs Plus which one should i get?
Or is there any other option?!
I want to buy one properly and use it well for a long time!
Thank you soooo much Art!!
How about i1 Diplay pro Plus or Studio? I am so confused
Get the Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro don't get the i1 version, they are the same device, but due to various software lock you are better off getting the Calibrite version out right
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much Art! Now I am going to order Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro! You da best!!!!
On my 2019 Intel iMac, when I start the software, it sounds like an airplane starting up. Yes I know I don’t have an M2 chip, but have a pretty decent machine still. 1TB SSD, 128GB RAM, etc. But probably because it’s Beta? And another thing they have to fix, the Dock icon/application icon. Waaaay too big compared to macOS standards, and they have to get rid of the circular shape.
That could be an intel thing, it is not so much other spec other than using a lot of CPU/GPU power in burst and system has to quickly cool it down. Could be based on beta, Idk. For the dock icon, probably, you should contact support and give them this feed back.
@@ArtIsRight I have but most of the time it’s get buried in the dust 😊 I always try to give feedback when I’m using a beta of some kind. But anyway, I can calibrate my monitor just fine, only issue is the noise/fan spinning up… I don’t know, but do 2019 iMac use White LED or..?
GB-LED
I like the advanced settings. I have the spyderx Pro. I still have the option to switch to a calibrite ColorChecker Pro. Should i switch? I've read, that the colorchecker is superior. Whats your opinion amigo?
Let me say this, if you have a SpyderX and it works. Don't need to upgrade yet, just keep using it. But if you are looking for a new one, on an engineering level Calibrite are better in many ways including heritage and lineage as well. TLDR Calibrite devices are powered by X-Rite and have better sensors. In addition X-Rite in their history took over a company called Graylag Macbeth, which is know as the best company in color management for a long time. So many of their tech now is rooted in Graytag. Now price & engineering reason correlation. Calibrite devices like X-Rite has better sensor and the spectral data necessary to calibrate the display is stored in the software. This means that as times goes on when new display tech emerge, Calibrite can just release a software update that would accommodate for new display type, assuming that said new display can be measure reasonably by the current sensor tech. Spyder on the other hand store this data on the device and it is not user upgradable. So when a new display type come out, that measurement sensor is now obsolete or can't calibrate new displays as well any more.
Yes, Calibrite devices are a premium over Spyder but they do last way longer, case in point, ColorChecker Display Pro is the same as i1Display Pro which as been out for more than a decade already and it has continue to support newer display tech that has come on the market. And in this time frame Spyder has release 3 new devices already. So yes even though their devices are cheaper, with in the same time span you would have to buy 2 if not 3 devices to calibrate newer display tech. As cheaper as they may be by the time you purchase the second one, it already cost more than a Calibrite pro device. In addition, if you constantly update OS, Spyder has been know to drop new OS support on older devices. So many times you would have to buy a new device out of a necessity as well. Lots to think about here.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for the elaborate explanation my man. Im from Germany and over here it is the same price (roughly 10 Euro difference), so I think its a no brainer then. Thank you sir :)
Do you think this monitor can be used for programmers who are watching basically text all day long?
It can, it is large but if this what you are looking for it would work great!
@@ArtIsRight Because saw videos where people complained about oled monitors used for text reading word/email/website. They said the text does'nt look good.
Hmm have to look into this further, have not found this to be an issue.
I hope this year I can get a printer and a calibrator ;D
Nice!
Your the best! Do you like the new software?
I do and I can't wait for it to developed out more!
thank you!
You're welcome!
how to calibration monitor hdr ? ty
Not with consumer software, not yet anyways.
help! at home I have an iMac 2018 5k retina. it would be great to leave it calibrated for color grading my videos there. I was wondering if anyone has a setup ( display pro) for this machine that works. Cheers!
I would look at this playlist th-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q7gkwXbzNrtunoFx8TVZIQe.html
Start first by choosing the OS that you have, because there are settings that you have to turn off before calibration.
Then afterwards, you can watch this video which is on the play list as well and calibrate th-cam.com/video/JrPdvs2by04/w-d-xo.html
@@ArtIsRight thanx!!!
👍🏼
this software dont work on my i1 studio
not yet, still in beta. That support is up coming in future release
Why disable HDR
This th-cam.com/video/0lurRq1iGPA/w-d-xo.html and this th-cam.com/video/W_PhIaJMDrQ/w-d-xo.html