I've been riding 37 years. Crashed my racing 600 in late July and still haven't got it all back to good (but it's functional and I've had it out already), so I know all about losing the front. :) One reason I got ABS on my new RSV4. Take a look at my videos if you want to see either of the mentioned bikes in action.
Guys, I want to give you some props here in that you took a little extra time and effort in this video to go more in-depth into your take and impressions on the bikes than many other videos you guys have done, and I hope this will become a trend that continues,
Thanks for releasing more on the videos than before (and still leaving some for the magazine). It is a much nicer balance than say last year. I love the looks of the BMW. I saw an RSV4 go by and then the BMW, something about the white red and blue caught my eye. I like the goofy headlights, makes it show how mental these bikes are.
HP4 reigns supreme and I've got # 585 not to mention the standard version (without the carbon fiber and a few cosmetic add ons) is under $20,000 and has everything the $25,000 competition model does performance wise. The DDC (dynamic damping control) works flawlessly. It's like having a master mechanic inside your bike setting your suspension up a hundred times per second to adjust to your riding style/conditions. Incredible machine. There's nothing out there right now that's in the same league.
You're gonna really enjoy it responding to your inputs when you hit a less grippy spot and the front end slides out on you :) I ride a motorcycle because it's the closest thing I can get to flying every day. I was denied entry to the Air Force as a pilot due to my poor eye sight and rejection of laser eye surgery. The first thing I learned when I started riding motorcycles is that if you don't feel confident and comfortable, you're gonna hurt yourself.
really cool. BMW HP4 is the best superbike. cant wait for the track test. rock on. love to join you guys with these test. Allan Francis Xavier TECH Locomotives Bangalore India
They're motorcyclists, they are who they are and they're out loving what they do, you can't complain at that... great vid, I'd kill a man for any of those beauties
I'm upgrading to a 1000 soon and I'm just going to test ride them all because I like all of them for the most part. I just want to see what I like the most in comfort power looks etc.. I'm going to test years in between 2009/2012 because that's what fit my price range the best. If you have any pros/cons for the bike you have rode that fit in this category let's hear what you got to say?
Mitchell Hopkins I bought a 2014 GSX-R 1000 last month. Pros and cons for that bike would probably be unique looking front end that I think looks great. Comfortable for a superbike. Cons include lack of ABS and traction control. I've ridden a 2013 ZX10R and I disliked it but pros and cons for that bike are good electronics package, supposedly amazing engine (honestly, I don't ride on the track so at legal speeds all the litrebikes feel pretty similar to me), and good looks. Cons include being uncomfortable, and cheap feeling, creaky plastics. Can't comment too much on the others, but you'll find out plenty for yourself during your test rides I'm sure. They're all largely similar handling machines on the street though as far as I can tell. Mostly up to your personal preferences regarding comfort and aesthetics.
The Beemer's Akra system is stock and EPA legal. The Duc's Termi system isn't street legal. But if you checked out our story, you'd see we dyno tested the Termi system and recorded a whopping 186 hp at the rear wheel!
While MPG shouldn't matter, when you talk street ride, it does. Not because of the money you spent, but it decides how far you can go before the next gas stop. I just got back from a riding trip to Salem (600 miles 1-way) on my S1000RR, it managed to do 200+ miles/tank, getting around 49 MPG (up to 53 MPG once). I wasn't going slow or just cruising with the traffic either, average speed was between 70-85 MPH. With the comfy seat, it's one versatile sportbike.
The face is a statement that this bike can be your street bike, or you could take it to the track and it'd compete HARD. Versatile. The feel of a street bike on a track, that's what people want.
It qualifies as exotic, but we couldn't get one when we had the others. We tested it a couple of months ago, and I'm confident it would've finished last in this group.
Due to the test being done in CA no full Termi system on the 1199R. That's $3500 fellas :( I love my Panigale but as a commuter I prefer the S1000rr... Maintenance is way cheaper on the S1000rr. Good video
Here in "DK" the BMW starts at 71.500 dollars US. Everything with an engine will be will be with a price multiplier of 3. Cant afford these fin machines.
I have a S1000r excellent bike but my old 2003 rsv mille still gives me a big smile,it not worth 2000 euro even due to the miles but man there is something about Italian bikes,id sell the s1000 before the mille no joke,and I made the mistake many years ago selling my 916...oh do I lay in bed thinking about that bike...Italian bikes just have that extra something,just more soul and passion,took the s1000r to the TT lucky for me I live In Ireland and my friend took his Paginale,nothing but BMWS,ZX10S,FIREBLADES all the usual bikes on the ferry but his Ducati was fucking gorgeous compared to anything else...guys were eyeballing it everywhere,and we swapped for a run up the mountain in the evening and man oh man them Paginales can move...try an Italian trust me,they will make you smile big time.
Are you kidding me? If you buy the Aprilia you get it for the engine. It's the only real superbike with an V4, and it is a beast. More torque than the BMW in the whole rev range too. The BMW just has an inline 4 like any other superbike out there. Not saying that it isn't a really good engine, but it is not as outstanding
The 08- 09 Honda CBR 1000 Has set faster laptimes on all the WSBK Superstock 1000 races, than the 2012 CBR 1000. Infact the 09 CBR has set almost exact record laptimes as the Panigale, and the HP4 and Hawasaki zx10 in 2013 in similar conditions in superstock trim. compare laptimes from 09 STK 1000 MAGNY COURS, PORTIMAO, BRNO. with those of 2012-13. Even though 2012 model is prettier it is also slower by 2.5 seconds a lap..
they not so detail like (motor trend channel) that;s why they dont get people to sub, talk what u like where is the prove? test? where is the electronic test result
Cbr1000rr... beautiful,reliable, powerful, better price, good for every day commute or long distance trip.... cbr1000 all day long, comfortable, good for t track,good for city driving, Honda baby, HONDA
It's why I'm still riding my 2007 1k Repsol, nothing has appealed to me as an all round package yet with all these new bikes, either not comfortable, or ugly etc etc, I'm still waiting for one to tick all the right boxes, specially in Australia where it's more expensive again to buy one of these, Ducati R as reviewed is 60k.
Here is Aprilia by far is the best possible choice ...BMW is nothing more than classical product of Brandomania or mass hysteria like many things are this days that anyone who chooses to any German product has to pay, and nothing real is justified or deserved, famous BMW's quality there is just in the advertising story's old as the last victory of BMW motorcycles in the Paris Dakar Rally, which would was sometime in the early eighties, but we all kept hold of the story by one of most famous Goebbels propaganda formula "a million times repeated lies becomes bigger true than true its self" and "the bigger the lie, that people will find it easier to believe in the same" In short it is the case with BMW, Why if he is so quick they failed to win Kawasaki in most possible reference competition, as is SBK, or when it comes to quality and durability, why did not manage to win the Suzuki that costs half as much as the BMW in Endurance competition in all fields lose the competition but still everyone kept talking about how 1000RR is the best and fastest and the best quality money can buy....nonsense and Advertising corruption under the full stim, BMW spend ten time more money on Advertising and all what they comprehend like part of same, then they spend like ratio, spending on development of one product and spending one Advert campaign...that talks more than any kind of advert bullshiting, why they do that, Simply they can and brainwashed army of consumers will do even terrible stuff just to get that money for one BMW, Ducati is Exotic , Ducati wasnt take frame from Suzuki GSXR1000 k5,Ducati still fight they dream and concept of frameless bike whit V twin engine and Ducati has not like "universe wast capability for engine development" like actually BMW does make that famous engine, and than purchased from Kymco that they make for BMW motorcycles engines block, that is something which is for Ducati will be to much, especially when they know which kind of money they will "except" from they customers and customers know exactly which kind of unique engineering they will get so for me BMW is on this test bike which do not belong there, no matter of performance and BHP or Traction control etc etc. South Koreans aka Kymco have one of most sophisticated metal alloys casting factory from engines blocks to the much complicated and bigger metal alloy casting parts, so isn't any surprise that same Kymco for years is actually best quality Scooter maker, but Like Japanese SK have kind of work and business ethics, and they made a miracle whit they industry,electronic, heavy industry like is ship buildings, Car industry and now military industry like logical way of development, and all that for less than 30 years for reasonable price, and i'm hundred percent sure that they invest much more in development, and quality issue of they wide spectre of most demanding industry branches than is case whit Majority of Germans all ready "famous" Brands and branches in same period of time, because in start everything which is German made in last twenty years cost like is made it from solid gold. until true is almost on other side of "alchemy" P.S Of course that still exist some of industry in which Germans is really still the best, but that number in reality is rapidly shrinking, and all because of pure GREED
Was all of that one sentence, lol? BMW is the most powerful, smoothest, easiest to ride fast, most capable street bike on the market. Believe the hype. It is that good. Bikes for various world championships have very little to do with stock bikes and BMW has the least of race experience of all. That might be the reason for not winning much. ;)
It all depends on the riders preferences with confidence and comfort. A rider can have a favorite make and model, and given the chance to ride all makes and models said rider may find they're more confident and comfortable on a bike that is not their favorite. Rider preference
I've been riding 37 years. Crashed my racing 600 in late July and still haven't got it all back to good (but it's functional and I've had it out already), so I know all about losing the front. :) One reason I got ABS on my new RSV4. Take a look at my videos if you want to see either of the mentioned bikes in action.
Guys, I want to give you some props here in that you took a little extra time and effort in this video to go more in-depth into your take and impressions on the bikes than many other videos you guys have done, and I hope this will become a trend that continues,
Glad you enjoyed it. We prefer to keep our vids under 10 minutes, but we had too much good stuff to work with this time!
Thanks for releasing more on the videos than before (and still leaving some for the magazine). It is a much nicer balance than say last year. I love the looks of the BMW. I saw an RSV4 go by and then the BMW, something about the white red and blue caught my eye. I like the goofy headlights, makes it show how mental these bikes are.
Let's see a little Bimota action out there. That is some rare piece of kit. Cool vid. Gotta love the amazing bodywork on that HP4. Simply mindblowing.
Excellent presentation guys excellent blend of cinematography, action with the commentary !
This was one of the most helpful reviews I've ever seen.
Keep up the great work man, I've been enjoying your reviews for years; thanks!
Best looking: Ducati
Best sounding: Aprilia
Best allrounder: BMW
Macaroni646 pretty much spot on
Awesome video guys! The quality and presentation is getting better every time! Is there going to be a 600cc test coming up shortly too? :)
HP4 reigns supreme and I've got # 585 not to mention the standard version (without the carbon fiber and a few cosmetic add ons) is under $20,000 and has everything the $25,000 competition model does performance wise. The DDC (dynamic damping control) works flawlessly. It's like having a master mechanic inside your bike setting your suspension up a hundred times per second to adjust to your riding style/conditions. Incredible machine. There's nothing out there right now that's in the same league.
You're gonna really enjoy it responding to your inputs when you hit a less grippy spot and the front end slides out on you :) I ride a motorcycle because it's the closest thing I can get to flying every day. I was denied entry to the Air Force as a pilot due to my poor eye sight and rejection of laser eye surgery. The first thing I learned when I started riding motorcycles is that if you don't feel confident and comfortable, you're gonna hurt yourself.
really cool.
BMW HP4 is the best superbike.
cant wait for the track test.
rock on.
love to join you guys with these test.
Allan Francis Xavier
TECH Locomotives
Bangalore India
All 3 are fantastic id be happy with any of them 💨💨🏁
"For the frugal buyer looking to buy an exotic sport bike." I laughed pretty hard!
I really like the onboard commentary.
They're motorcyclists, they are who they are and they're out loving what they do, you can't complain at that... great vid, I'd kill a man for any of those beauties
I'm upgrading to a 1000 soon and I'm just going to test ride them all because I like all of them for the most part. I just want to see what I like the most in comfort power looks etc.. I'm going to test years in between 2009/2012 because that's what fit my price range the best. If you have any pros/cons for the bike you have rode that fit in this category let's hear what you got to say?
Mitchell Hopkins I bought a 2014 GSX-R 1000 last month. Pros and cons for that bike would probably be unique looking front end that I think looks great. Comfortable for a superbike. Cons include lack of ABS and traction control.
I've ridden a 2013 ZX10R and I disliked it but pros and cons for that bike are good electronics package, supposedly amazing engine (honestly, I don't ride on the track so at legal speeds all the litrebikes feel pretty similar to me), and good looks. Cons include being uncomfortable, and cheap feeling, creaky plastics.
Can't comment too much on the others, but you'll find out plenty for yourself during your test rides I'm sure. They're all largely similar handling machines on the street though as far as I can tell. Mostly up to your personal preferences regarding comfort and aesthetics.
The BMW looks the coolest. and i like the suspension.i wonder if my local bmw dealer has them in stock.
pls link the track shoot out!
Fantastic test guys :-)
Actually never heard of those. Technically a Bimota though, they had the Tesi 3D which has the from wingarm as well.
Would've love to hear what you guys think of the F4RR compare to these bikes.
The Beemer's Akra system is stock and EPA legal. The Duc's Termi system isn't street legal. But if you checked out our story, you'd see we dyno tested the Termi system and recorded a whopping 186 hp at the rear wheel!
Think they might be a little less jaded today?
Wow! For the aprillia...just a beautiful machine
ive got the V4 but am looking at the DDC BMW as my next bike. only thing that is stopping me and the moment is the 'charater' of the bike
While MPG shouldn't matter, when you talk street ride, it does. Not because of the money you spent, but it decides how far you can go before the next gas stop.
I just got back from a riding trip to Salem (600 miles 1-way) on my S1000RR, it managed to do 200+ miles/tank, getting around 49 MPG (up to 53 MPG once). I wasn't going slow or just cruising with the traffic either, average speed was between 70-85 MPH.
With the comfy seat, it's one versatile sportbike.
I enjoy it so much more when these guys pic a favorite bike and argue over them. You get better info and it's more fun to watch
has volume issues. volume jumps up and down.
bmw hp4 is my fav. love German engineering
ethan fox -- oh yeah, boring as fuck. I'm wondering why the bike's not painted grey.
You've finally managed to just about match motortrend!
The face is a statement that this bike can be your street bike, or you could take it to the track and it'd compete HARD. Versatile. The feel of a street bike on a track, that's what people want.
where is the mv?
wwfww still trying to start up without catching fire
At the mechanic's!
It qualifies as exotic, but we couldn't get one when we had the others. We tested it a couple of months ago, and I'm confident it would've finished last in this group.
RSV4 of course.
wow amazing bikes and price...
Keep working on it. You'll get there.
I'm waiting for BMW to make a middleweight version of the S1000rr. That will be the ultimate street machine.
This comparison is more geared toward higher priced bikes, thus the makes you mention are not represented.
I commute on my RSV4. It's not that bad... it does need a 15T front sprocket and should be put in "R" mode which softens engine braking.
whats your guys definition of exotic? to me exotic is rare,the bmw is so dime a dozen
The HP4 is a rare bike. especially the competition package one...
hp4 is a rare bike dude, only like 600 made which seems a lot but for a bike its not
xvsniper1 600? 6000! My HP4 Bad already the s/n 3871!
MV Agusta,
Nice roads!!
haha i'm in the u.s......why open throttle in germeny? not getting it lol
I preferred your video better than Motor trends vid.
Due to the test being done in CA no full Termi system on the 1199R. That's $3500 fellas :( I love my Panigale but as a commuter I prefer the S1000rr... Maintenance is way cheaper on the S1000rr. Good video
With just two titles in 13 years of trying, I don't think they're tired of winning just yet...
Here in "DK" the BMW starts at 71.500 dollars US. Everything with an engine will be will be with a price multiplier of 3. Cant afford these fin machines.
The sound of Ducati engine is fantastic!
Why am I so jaded dude !! sounds like the texas tornado colin edwards.
Agreed! No teleprompters for us...
WHY NOT KTM RC8 AND GSXR 1000?????????
If they could just combine the electronics of the HP4 and the looks of the Panigale... lord, the lines at the bikestores ;-)
Id take the Aprilia
I have a S1000r excellent bike but my old 2003 rsv mille still gives me a big smile,it not worth 2000 euro even due to the miles but man there is something about Italian bikes,id sell the s1000 before the mille no joke,and I made the mistake many years ago selling my 916...oh do I lay in bed thinking about that bike...Italian bikes just have that extra something,just more soul and passion,took the s1000r to the TT lucky for me I live In Ireland and my friend took his Paginale,nothing but BMWS,ZX10S,FIREBLADES all the usual bikes on the ferry but his Ducati was fucking gorgeous compared to anything else...guys were eyeballing it everywhere,and we swapped for a run up the mountain in the evening and man oh man them Paginales can move...try an Italian trust me,they will make you smile big time.
Are you kidding me? If you buy the Aprilia you get it for the engine. It's the only real superbike with an V4, and it is a beast. More torque than the BMW in the whole rev range too. The BMW just has an inline 4 like any other superbike out there. Not saying that it isn't a really good engine, but it is not as outstanding
HP4! I like the lights.
And the skill to get the most out of any of these bikes.
I'm a inline fan so I would pick the BMW HP4. Plus its the most comfortable than the Italians.
There all sick!
This made me feel a little bit less Jaded today.
The 08- 09 Honda CBR 1000 Has set faster laptimes on all the WSBK Superstock 1000 races, than the 2012 CBR 1000. Infact the 09 CBR has set almost exact record laptimes as the Panigale, and the HP4 and Hawasaki zx10 in 2013 in similar conditions in superstock trim. compare laptimes from 09 STK 1000 MAGNY COURS, PORTIMAO, BRNO. with those of 2012-13. Even though 2012 model is prettier it is also slower by 2.5 seconds a lap..
they not so detail like (motor trend channel) that;s why they dont get people to sub, talk what u like where is the prove? test? where is the electronic test result
No KTM RC8R? I love that bike and it constantly gets ignored....
Thanks for helping me decide which bike to get. Hmm, now I just need the money.
WHY NOT BIMOTA, MV AGUSTA, ZERO, AND BUELL???????
bmw your choice?do they pay you to present this?
And don't forget Vyrus, it's one of the most exotic.
Anyone who has enough money to even think about spending $30,000 on a motorcycle doesn't need this review to convince them.
no wayyyy!!!! really? that's so awesome holy crap i didn't know that.....man i'm riding a back in Germany!!!!
Nice roads, almost like the track
مرحبا
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Where's the EBR 1190RS?
F*** that bikes! This roads are f***** awesome. Absolutely ZERO traffic. Just pure motorcycle heaven. I wish to ride there. Forza DUCATI!
since when is ducati a v-twin???
Why oh why does the Hp4 have to be sold out EVERYWHERE?!?!
The standard bike isn't the HP4.
Where the heck is the f4?!
saya suka gaya kamu troy siahaan......
Isn't the Ducati more of an L-Twin?
Super
can't compare the 2, they're made with completely different styles and concept in mind.
ahhh I go for the OAKLEY SPECIAL EDITION DUCATI sunglasses... dayum they re hot... dayum oh I already got them!
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If I had to pick a bike for everyday riding, definitely the BMW. A one day rental? Ducati for sure.
hello from italy
exotic suerbike without MV but with BMW instead?
Keren mazbro
It sounds lightyears better than the HP4, but nothing can match the exhaust note of a v-4.
how is MV agusta F4 not exotic
I miss mv agusta
hell yeah
where is the KTM RC8?
Cbr1000rr... beautiful,reliable, powerful, better price, good for every day commute or long distance trip.... cbr1000 all day long, comfortable, good for t track,good for city driving, Honda baby, HONDA
Damn right!
Don't believe the myth about a V-4 producing more torque. Take a look at the dyno chart in the article for proof.
I love that Ducati!
It's why I'm still riding my 2007 1k Repsol, nothing has appealed to me as an all round package yet with all these new bikes, either not comfortable, or ugly etc etc, I'm still waiting for one to tick all the right boxes, specially in Australia where it's more expensive again to buy one of these, Ducati R as reviewed is 60k.
Here is Aprilia by far is the best possible choice ...BMW is nothing more than classical product of Brandomania or mass hysteria like many things are this days that anyone who chooses to any German product has to pay, and nothing real is justified or deserved, famous BMW's quality there is just in the advertising story's old as the last victory of BMW motorcycles in the Paris Dakar Rally, which would was sometime in the early eighties, but we all kept hold of the story by one of most famous Goebbels propaganda formula "a million times repeated lies becomes bigger true than true its self" and "the bigger the lie, that people will find it easier to believe in the same" In short it is the case with BMW, Why if he is so quick they failed to win Kawasaki in most possible reference competition, as is SBK, or when it comes to quality and durability, why did not manage to win the Suzuki that costs half as much as the BMW in Endurance competition in all fields lose the competition but still everyone kept talking about how 1000RR is the best and fastest and the best quality money can buy....nonsense and Advertising corruption under the full stim, BMW spend ten time more money on Advertising and all what they comprehend like part of same, then they spend like ratio, spending on development of one product and spending one Advert campaign...that talks more than any kind of advert bullshiting, why they do that, Simply they can and brainwashed army of consumers will do even terrible stuff just to get that money for one BMW, Ducati is Exotic , Ducati wasnt take frame from Suzuki GSXR1000 k5,Ducati still fight they dream and concept of frameless bike whit V twin engine and Ducati has not like "universe wast capability for engine development" like actually BMW does make that famous engine, and than purchased from Kymco that they make for BMW motorcycles engines block, that is something which is for Ducati will be to much, especially when they know which kind of money they will "except" from they customers and customers know exactly which kind of unique engineering they will get so for me BMW is on this test bike which do not belong there, no matter of performance and BHP or Traction control etc etc. South Koreans aka Kymco have one of most sophisticated metal alloys casting factory from engines blocks to the much complicated and bigger metal alloy casting parts, so isn't any surprise that same Kymco for years is actually best quality Scooter maker, but Like Japanese SK have kind of work and business ethics, and they made a miracle whit they industry,electronic, heavy industry like is ship buildings, Car industry and now military industry like logical way of development, and all that for less than 30 years for reasonable price, and i'm hundred percent sure that they invest much more in development, and quality issue of they wide spectre of most demanding industry branches than is case whit Majority of Germans all ready "famous" Brands and branches in same period of time, because in start everything which is German made in last twenty years cost like is made it from solid gold. until true is almost on other side of "alchemy"
P.S
Of course that still exist some of industry in which Germans is really still the best, but that number in reality is rapidly shrinking, and all because of pure GREED
Was all of that one sentence, lol? BMW is the most powerful, smoothest, easiest to ride fast, most capable street bike on the market. Believe the hype. It is that good. Bikes for various world championships have very little to do with stock bikes and BMW has the least of race experience of all. That might be the reason for not winning much. ;)
Well, i dont think so!
It all depends on the riders preferences with confidence and comfort. A rider can have a favorite make and model, and given the chance to ride all makes and models said rider may find they're more confident and comfortable on a bike that is not their favorite.
Rider preference