4G with a TV antenna - It works!

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  • A quick look at how I turned a cheap TV antenna into something to suck up 4G signals from far away. It's quick, dirty, and could probably be improved - but it works!
    More in-depth build video here: • Making of the "Interne...
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  • @THETECHIETECH
    @THETECHIETECH 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It would definitely work!!! Great, I have also made many of them, they all work well

  • @xXRenaxChanXx
    @xXRenaxChanXx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This honestly has me tempted to try using an adapter on my RVs old Antenna. If it doesn't work? Oh well, I already have two different cellular antennas. But being able to just re-purpose the old TV Antenna would eliminate the hassle of setting them up. Since I don't have a way to mount them anywhere yet.

  • @Seegalgalguntijak
    @Seegalgalguntijak 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Haha, "however, since I'm a bit of a nerd" - LOL, that was the understatement of the century! ;)

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ever so slightly nerdish.

    • @Seegalgalguntijak
      @Seegalgalguntijak 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      FFcossag you mean nerd*y*. the -ish ending is more to say that something is like "it" (whatever the word in front of it ist) in a "kinda sorta way".

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seegal Galguntijak That's the joke, lol.

  • @wazza33racer
    @wazza33racer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    old satellite dishes with the offset feed also work well. just tweek the distance of the receiver from the dish itself to get the focal point.

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What type of spectrum analyzer do you have Sir ??

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cracking idea, getting the best out of your 4G with a tv beam, clever sod lol :-D.
    The simple dish method works well for ordinary wifi internet, but thats about 2.5ghz, so a beam would be out of the question i suppose.

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I honestly just have no idea about what I'm doing, lol.

    • @zx8401ztv
      @zx8401ztv 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ive just watched the "Making of" video :-), you have got an excellent connection in comparison to what you had :-D
      18-20 mb per sec, i would be super happy with that :-D.
      You may not know all about every aspect of antennas, but i think you did a brilliant job, im chuffed for you :-D :-D.

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks - Above all it makes my TH-cam uploads not kill the entire Internet connection for a day at a time. It's a lot more inspiring to make videos when their biggest impact on your life ISN'T to rob you of the 'net a couple days a week.

    • @zx8401ztv
      @zx8401ztv 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes thats why im happy for you, but dont just think about uploads, enjoy downloading as well.
      I used to be on a shitty phone based internet, it was horrible, so i really do understand how you feel.
      Enjoy your net :-D

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      zx8401ztv Heh, thanks - will do!

  • @christazeneca9307
    @christazeneca9307 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello,
    If I connect my tv antenna direct to my 4g router via an sma adaptor and lmr400 cable will it work sir?
    Please answer

  • @circuitdotlt
    @circuitdotlt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting test. How do I figure out what frequency the nearest tower uses? I don't have a spectrum analyzer, only a cheap USB SDR. Can that be used?

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, just download SDRSharp and point it to the nearest cell tower.

  • @thebigmann81
    @thebigmann81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I don't need a cell phone booster antenna ,a tv antenna works just the same correct?

  • @tusharkathuria9
    @tusharkathuria9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I have looked the internet but unable to find answer.. my question is LMR 400 50 ohm cable is recommended for best signal reception. But it's pretty expensive cable as I need to cover about 30 ft distance. So wanted to know can we use cable used for dish tv? Will it provide similar gains?.

  • @Tisiu2
    @Tisiu2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now we all know where you live. Awesome!

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Send me mail.

    • @Tisiu2
      @Tisiu2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The post where I live is super expensive (like 25 euro per package), but I will see what I can do.

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      marek mrukwa That was mostly a joke.

    • @Tisiu2
      @Tisiu2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't get that sorry. Nice video btw

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      marek mrukwa It's alright - thanks!

  • @DeUndefined1
    @DeUndefined1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 88dbi 4g antenna hooked up on a satellite dish for my sprint Mifi 8000 through ts9 connection and I have an 40mile directional tv antenna. So what do i need to do to combine everything?

  • @Toomanymemes697
    @Toomanymemes697 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genius, slow clap good sir

  • @carleaston2177
    @carleaston2177 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm honestly puzzled.....you've basically told me that an aerial receives signals....or am i receiving something different to what your outputting?

  • @tara0hhara807
    @tara0hhara807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you're still around (or to anyone who can answer this question definitively), can you tell me if I can use my TV antenna for both my TV and my cellular booster?
    I need to use my cell phone as a hotspot for internet inside a metal building. Great cell connection outside the building; terrible inside.

  • @RinoaL
    @RinoaL 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, thats a really cool little antenna. i'm a big fan of antennas. haha

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If that's your definition of "little", I don't want to know what you regard as "big".

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FFcossag
      well i live about 60 miles from any big TV transmitter, so i'd make really large antennas to get a few channels. i didnt like watching the TV, i just wanted to get more channels. haha

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rinoa Super-Genius Such are the ways of nerds. I fully understand why you would do such a thing.

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      FFcossag
      i found getting chicken wire fence and rolling it into tubes worked really well. i also mounted a big steel grate i'd found on my uncles farm to it and those helped also. i might get back into making a giant antenna again.

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rinoa Super-Genius Are you putting effort into being more ghetto than me? ;)

  • @LouiesLog
    @LouiesLog ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @planetrocker6984
    @planetrocker6984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude think how we convert the tv cable after amplifier to sma cable... i think a filter is needed to get the LTE 5G band...

  • @GeertDroid
    @GeertDroid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what is your ISP ?
    Do you know what frequency your modem connects to cell tower?
    if it is 4G or LTE they use MIMO technology.
    Therefore setup your antenna dipoles one at 45° and the other at 135° degrees.
    This way you will meet 4G LTE MIMO Polarisation Diversity.

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool, thanks.

    • @GeertDroid
      @GeertDroid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What is your ISP (internet service provider)?

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sonera. They do 800 MHz 4G.

  • @Teukka72
    @Teukka72 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm... That transceivers position seems a bit off to me as a radio amateur... On TV antennas, the driven elements center is on the boom of the antenna, which on that stick would be right at the hinge point of the sticks antenna if it is turned in a way that it doesn't fold back over the stick.
    Have you tried different positions of the stick and antenna with regard to the boom to see what gives you the most signal?

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't played much since my antennas are a bit worn out and I don't want to break them. I've ordered a couple of new antennas and I'll play around more once I get them.

  • @oddity4650
    @oddity4650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing could you do another video like this but for 5g? thanks

    • @sephangelo4603
      @sephangelo4603 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      IIRC, you could the same with a new 4G/5G dongle.

  • @aaronalmuransagay7607
    @aaronalmuransagay7607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi can I use SMA male to connect the coaxial cable to my pocket wifi?

    • @sephangelo4603
      @sephangelo4603 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you should check out Kreosan videos for ideas related to 4G.

  • @imnobody4522
    @imnobody4522 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK, you antenna is normally a horizontal oriented device. Have you tried turning the antenna into the vertical plane to see if it any better. I'd bet it is.

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried that, didn't change much.

  • @Pinkorek
    @Pinkorek 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theoretically one could shorten the directors to receive the higher bands better but with frequencies as high as 2GHz you never know.

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I see little reason to do that, since I'm not trying to push WLAN.

  • @joshuabest100
    @joshuabest100 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what price do you pay for that sort of internet

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      About 20 € per month.

  • @craignehring
    @craignehring 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's cool
    I think I am getting a raw deal with only 15 mbps down and 1mbps up and that is on cable broadband. The fastest I can grab a file is at about 2 mbps. In all honesty that seems fast enough, but at times I wish I had faster up load

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's my land line as well (and has been for years) - ADSL, I assume?

    • @craignehring
      @craignehring 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cable, same as for coaxial cable TV, but I don't get TV (why would I) I have not had a Telephone line hard wired to my home since 2002. The phone company keeps trying to sell me some plan and I never get a straight answer from them as if that would be a twisted pair or fiber optic, There isn't any fiber here in this area

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Craig Nehring You poor sod. I'm just waiting for the new local telecom to come knocking. They've been making the rounds offering free fiber installations to new customers for a while.

    • @craignehring
      @craignehring 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I could upgrade to higher tier with cable, but they still short you on the upload speed. They are pathetic, I tried to upgrade to one of the new cable modems Docsis 3, it took the techs over an hour on their end to configure it, then the damned connection would drop out briefly a few times a day. I am running a tried and true and very old modem.
      Oh BTW, I have played with some one watt wireless dongles and high gain antennas. But that is not exactly cool to be stealing service... it does work though at some distances.

  • @geekmystique
    @geekmystique 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you ever toyed around with Software Defined Radio? I think you could have scanned for the LTE signal with a RTL2832U based DVB-T dongle (10-20 euros) and your PC. If you have not toyed around with SDR yet, it is definitely worth a shot, i think it would make good content for your channel. It is amazing that part of that multiple thousand$ sewing machine sized machine you borrowed can be replaced by a super small USB PCB not even designed to do the job.

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've used those RTLSDR things in the past, they have their place. I'm not a radio guy though, so I don't find them too fascinating beyond their raw utility value. I could very well have used one of those for this if I wanted to, but I'm sure you'll agree that the Unaohm 742 is several orders of magnitude cooler, he he.

    • @geekmystique
      @geekmystique 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alright, no surprise you know about those :) Yeah definitely cooler!
      Nothing is better than straight frequency information to a CRT with no
      digital lag!

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      geekmystique Ha - while it may not have digital lag, the analogue sampling system that the 742 uses is dog slow and will miss any burst that's less than 50-100 ms or so. It's not actually a very good spectrum analyser, lol.

    • @GeertDroid
      @GeertDroid 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      geekmystique
      I agree on that, RTL-SDR usb stick is well worth to experiment with.

  • @Mr.BednaR
    @Mr.BednaR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I got a 4G router/modem - could I connect it directly in?

  • @guillermoyanez1805
    @guillermoyanez1805 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    tHERE IS IN ANY WAY THAT i CAN BUY IN USA...?

    • @Joseph_S_Clark
      @Joseph_S_Clark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guillermo Yanez it’s a tv antenna

  • @Alexelectricalengineering
    @Alexelectricalengineering 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thumbs up :)

  • @irishguy200007
    @irishguy200007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you take the cable from the antenna and feed into a 4g router

    • @OMG-7
      @OMG-7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Roy Mazingo check it out here www.coaxrf.com/product-category/2-rf-adapters/sma-to-f-type/

    • @OMG-7
      @OMG-7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      tv connector type F, so need from f head to N sma RF head, with pin is male, hole is female

    • @OMG-7
      @OMG-7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Roy Mazingo and do u know what? if tv antenna got booster/voltage and booom! got very strong signal coverage! example
      www.amazon.com/dp/B07GSCCJ9Y/ref=emc_b_5_i

    • @sephangelo4603
      @sephangelo4603 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe Kreosan did something like that in one of his videos. He's the type of guy who experiments electromagnetic stuff.

  • @imeakdo7
    @imeakdo7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    is that 4g connection free?

  • @jasejj
    @jasejj 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm, nice work... I'm thinking you could probably use a cheap WiFi yagi for 2100MHz... Similar enough range.

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      How would 2,1 GHz divide down very well to 800 MHz? It doesn't add up in my head. As far as cheap goes, however - this antenna was free.

    • @jasejj
      @jasejj 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FFcossag I was thinking more of adapting your idea to my provider which uses 2.1G for 4G I believe, and I have an old 28dBi (I think) 2.4G yagi in the garage.

    • @jasejj
      @jasejj 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah feck, 4G uses 1800 and 2600 here... that said a 2.4G yagi should still work fairly well at 2600...

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jason james Ah, I see.

    • @ericp2590
      @ericp2590 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasejj seems you know alot of antennas can you help me going to buy a phone booster 850 mhz. Thats for 3g right ? And also planning tu buy a yagi antenna 25dbi thats says 4g will that antenna work out with the booster just want to make sure to get more. Signal thanks

  • @slawor4
    @slawor4 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's pretty slow internet, I hope it's not expensive

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not - about 20 € per month. It's considerably faster when I'm closer to civilisation.

    • @GeertDroid
      @GeertDroid 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      FFcossag
      What ISP are you using?

  • @aleksandersats9577
    @aleksandersats9577 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    how far can you control a a rc car with that antenna

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn't have the slightest clue.

    • @aleksandersats9577
      @aleksandersats9577 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      FFcossag brobaly really far could be a fun for a prank

  • @adriprz_
    @adriprz_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice joke HAHAHA how could it be?🤣

  • @kjaxky
    @kjaxky 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    paused video at start , not warching its total bs, tv is under 1ghz up to 3ghz frequency cell is above tv frequencies not possible, total nonsense. also frequencies above 1 gzh are smaller so the waveguide etc are smaller. not the long rods of a tv antenna .

    • @FFcossag
      @FFcossag  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4G here is 800 MHz.

    • @Pyroteq
      @Pyroteq 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Woops, you accidentally assumed that just because cell towers in YOUR country or region transmit in a certain band, that ALL regions must...
      What an idiot.
      Here in Australia we get as low as 700mhz in some areas, all the way up to nearly 3k in urban areas. 700-900 is generally used in rural areas.
      Nice try though!

    • @phoenixfireclusterbomb
      @phoenixfireclusterbomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have lte filters to prevent cell signals from interfering with the cable broadcast. I work for a major cable company and yes, lte can cause issues depending on where the home is located within the cell tower broadcast.

  • @benraouanetahar
    @benraouanetahar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    fake

    • @sephangelo4603
      @sephangelo4603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And you're just jealous that others can boost 4G signals better than you like Kreosan.