Let's Compare ( Primal Rage )
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1. Arcade 0:41
2. Gameboy 2:59
3. Game Gear 5:18
4. Amiga 8:16
5. Genesis / Mega Drive 10:45
6. Sega 32X 13:13
7. Super Nintendo 15:32
8. DOS 17:52
9. 3DO ( SOUND ISSUES ) 20:31
10. Jaguar CD 22:50
11. Playstation 25:48
12. Saturn 28:08
13. X-BOX, PlayStation 2,
Game Cube, Windows as part
of Midway Arcade Treasures 2 30:27
Description Source:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_Rage
Primal Rage is a versus fighting game developed and released by Atari Games to arcades in 1994. The game takes place in a post-apocalyptic version of Earth called "Urth." Players control one of seven large beasts that battle each other to determine the fate of the planet. Matches feature many of the conventions of fighting games from the era, including special moves and gory finishing maneuvers.
Various ports were released for home consoles and personal computers. Efforts to perfectly emulate the arcade original have as yet been unsuccessful, due to an unusual copy protection method developers used.
Toys, comics, a novel (Primal Rage: The Avatars by John Vornholt) and other merchandise tie-ins were also produced. A sequel to the game, Primal Rage II, was close to completion, but never released.
Gameplay:
Primal Rage is a traditional two-dimensional fighting game in which two players select characters to battle each other in one-on-one combat, or a single player finishes a campaign of fights against the CPU, over increasing difficulty. The final battle of the single-player game consisted of fighting all the other CPU monsters with an increased power bar, made available in a mini-game prior to the fight. A total of seven characters are available for players to select from (as listed below). Each character has his or her own specialized set of three attack moves and abilities. In the game, the object is to deplete the opposing character's health meter as fast as possible. If "Game Gore" (an option on some consoles) is switched on, then a defeated character's heart will explode into a bloody mess, and their brain will dissolve to ashes.
While fighting, human tribesmen will wander nearby and worship their gods during battle. This allows for the creatures to toss them around or devour some to regain strength (eating opponents' worshipers will add a bonus to one's score, while eating one's own will penalize the player). Prior to the final battle, a mini game commences in which one is required to eat as many worshipers as possible to increase health for the endurance round. Two human-controlled characters can trigger an easter egg of human volleyball, by keeping worshipers off the ground and batting them back and forth.
Unlike most fighting games, where the special moves are performed by moving the joystick followed by pressing one or more buttons, Primal Rage features a system where the player holds down certain buttons, then performs the joystick movements. Later revisions of the arcade game added the ability to perform "special moves" in the more traditional way, with motion followed by button presses, but kept the original method as well. After the opponent is defeated, a brief moment is allowed for the player to perform a fatality that finishes the adversary in a more dramatic fashion; these were performed in a similar manner to the special moves. Although all characters feature three finishing moves, some of them were more easter eggs than fatalities, such as Vertigo's "La Vache Qui Rit" (French for "the laughing cow"), a fatality in which Vertigo transforms her opponent into a cow, which moos and runs away.
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This seems like the safe place to say it.
Primal Rage is my favorite fighting game of all time.
It's just a shame I had it on gameboy of all places :-p.
But I played it all the time at the arcades :-D
+Roudansk Alamir Mine too, man.
same bro, i have 2 of the oficial toys, trying to find the others on the internet, but its hard :(
It's my favorite fighting game of all time as well. Give me PR over SF or MK any day (but I do love MK don't get me wrong).
Uhhh.What do you mean safe place
The game needs to be resurrected in the modern years.
I agree.
I agree
Not body panic, I'll do it.
Thing is it's not necessary since ps2 version is the arcade version ... they should just make a part 3
Remake!
I loved this game in the Arcade! I swear the cabinet had a large subwoofer and you could feel a boom throughout the room every time one of them jumped and landed. Great experience when it first released.
Exactly
TRUE STORY... Finally someone else with a good memory...👍
and that bird intro screen could be heard from like 150 feet away from the arcade xD
I played it ar cicis pizza, they had a cabinet with a 32cin crt.
Yes! Our arcade had it running on a huge screen with loud, bassy sound. Very impressive at the time!
Ahh the 90's when Arcades still existed and fighting games where king. The more blood the better. In 20 years people will be looking back at the mobas and fps game people play today in much the same way, probably scratching their heads at how people could stand to play games without Virtual Reality, then loading a ps4 emulator to get a good taste of retro
i have an idea. how about a new arcade machine designed to be the most bloodiest fighting game known to man. imagine if midway used the same mindset with the first one , but with today's cutting edge. it would give me nightmares again, lol.
2:28--
The encryption protection is the result of the characters getting knocked down and getting back up floating off the ground.
This game was FANTASTIC in the arcade! If you hated it, it's because you couldn't comprehend a fighter that wasn't in a 6 button layout! Spent lots of hours on this one!
All fighting games got hate. The button layout and different button combinations like 2 or 3 at a time was unprecedented! Mortal Kombat was in another class of it's own and had no big combos like this or SF. It's quite evident you didn't like it...or maybe just sucked at it.
Triggered much? I understand...
The Saturn looked amazing.
+MrAzazel666 The PS1 version looked ok too..but both seem to have load times/gltiches
MrMichaelXX I know! It's awesome a version
It's too bad the console versions had a lot of loading, best version I heard is the Sega Saturn since the arcade version is unplayable.
The only thing the PlayStation had over it was the vs screen, but the Saturn version was way better. It was faster, all of the sound effects were there, and it loaded faster, where the PlayStation, not saying it was bad, but let's face it, the Saturn was a 2D powerhouse, and the PlayStation was built for 3D polygons and it was proven.
@@msmander87 The Saturn version did the smart thing, and got rid of the vs screen, making it load faster, plus it was built for 2D games like this. Play every 2D fighting game made by Capcom and SNK that both consoles have, and you'll see the substantial difference, where 3D polygons looked better on the PS1 the majority of the time with less slowdown, much easier programming, special effects were easier to program with the push of a button (Saturn had to be programmed in, in which was time consuming and a pain in the rear), gourd shading, and better transparencies, however, with the right developers, certain polygon games, Saturn had a clearer advantage with way more stuff on screen at the cost of a little slowdown, heavier use of parallax scrolling, independent foreground and background scrolling (Dead or Alive, Last Bronx), high resolution mode, and Sega's exclusive ST-V chips.
I converted the graphics for the Dos version :), lots of fiddling with palettes in Danimator.
Still remember the snes cheat menu (left, left, left, right, right, left, left, right, right, right, left, right), great memories!
The only fighting game ever to make it to almost EVERY major gaming platform, including the 32x and Jaguar!
I hope to get one of those versions someday…
The Jag CD is a step down from the 32x version, and as most games of this era the 3do version is the unique one on the obscure systems. It is great as it gives a glipse of every consoles strengths and weaknesses.
"Rise of the Robots" as well, but the less we talk about it the better, lol.
Another very interesting and insightful comparison video. Especially if you take into account this game's rather "difficult" history concerning ports. Good stuff!
I love this game I'm hoping for a reboot.
Not exactly absurd, they wanted to make it different from every other fighter so for the special moves you had to hold down the action buttons and move the joystick/d-pad, so it's really just the opposite from every other fighter in which you use the movement THEN action buttons.
King Rumar And it's no hard at all.
Great work throwing all that together.
Loved this, it was like evolution of graphics!!!
Winning in the 3DO port rewards you with ear rape.
The best part of this game was watching the tiny human followers getting killed while trying to watch the fight. I was never good at this either, had it for snes
sega saturn seems to hold true to the arcade version
so dos the PlayStation version
PS version was a bit choppier regarding animations.
Beanmachine91 PS2 is also arcade
No one cares
Which Version is and Exact Arcade port.... It looks like Saturn's?
Amazed how good they all are.. I played Megadrive version & still own JagCD one :)
1:51 Sauron wins? It's a good thing frodo can't see this
Forgot about this game... I love youtube for finding old crap.
Am I the only one who thinks the super nintendo version had the best music?
Alec Frisch Nope.
Alec Frisch i though it did to.
+Armageddon3035 If it weren't for Chaos' Golden Shower being censored, it would be the best version of the game... In my opinion
Alec Frisch Dont worry, I also like the icons in the Character selection screen, they look better (My opinion) also lots of censors and bad ports like the first finish of Diablo...seriously? What the heck whit that fireball?
Snes was truly trash console Wtf is this port even game gear version is better
wingnut4427 Hey! Awesome Video! Primal Rage Is One Of My Favorite Fighters!
Best: Arcade, Sega Saturn, PlayStation, Atari Jaguar CD, SNES, 3DO
Decent: Game gear, mega drive, Sega 32x, MS DOS
Worst: Game boy, Amiga
La versión MS-DOS es muy buena.
The Snes is decent but no have The SFX "RAGE" :|
Primal Rage is like Mortal Kombat with Dinosaurs and Giant Apes.
I see potential in this series, a lot. I only played the Gameboy and never saw any other copy. I think the Gameboy input feels just perfect and perhaps this game can rise from the dead. If you've seen the awesome animations online then you can see what kind of passion it might take to polish such an unusually underrated concept. That's all I got.
The input system is actually pretty simple once you snag a strategy guide. Love this game!
had this game on the saturn. Man it was such a fun one
I have just purchased a dedicated arcade cabinet 2 days ago, game is awesome!
Cool primal rage *_* !!
There's no doubt that Primal Rage is a unique tournament fighter with dinosaurs.
"I'm lousy at this game and I know it"
Well, thanks for being honest... I guess...
You would not believe the shit you get from people who watch your videos if you do not play just like they do. It's amazing how arrogant some people are. I put that in because of all of the shit I caught on one of my other videos. But I'll leave it at that.
Gaming History Source Oh my God, that is so true. 1 credit, perfect run or keyboard warriors will eviscerate you.
+Gaming History Source U did a nice job imo..got better as the game went along lol
This game is easy to master. It's just holding usually two buttons together then do a back and front or down front move. This game is completely different from Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter.
Seeing this after so long, I remember how hard it was to play, and how silly it was to see dinosaurs fall on their ass while still in the air.
Imagine if there was a Primal Rage & Killer Instinct crossover fighting game...
It’ll probably be called something like Primal Instinct.
Or Killer Rage. Riptor would make a good guest character.
Look at that stop motion goodness...
also guys the yellow-white blood part is actualyl a game bug...and it prevents at least 1 of Vertigos fatalities from working...sadly the bug exists in the Midway Arcade Treasures 2 version since it was a direct emulation of the arcade one
if you want a good copy of the game, get one for PS2, Sega Saturn or PC...close as youll get to arcade without most of the diff system-specific issues of all the various ports
It looks crazy good on the 3do... I went and looked up console prices for the 3do after watching
I personally thought the Atari Jaguar CD and 3DO looked really close, with maybe the PS1 edging them out just slightly. Of course the Arcade and Midway Treasures 2 (arcade version) look the best, but the arcade was built to run the game more or less, and Midway Arcade Treasures was running on consoles two generations removed from when this game was released so they are no big surprise.
If nothing else, this is a reason to own the 3DO and Atari Jaguar CD. Great video and comparison!!!
Benaiah Burns I'm getting it for the 3do
midway sucks with some of the same nuisance of the mame version....brown blood WTF xD
Remember having to choose between this many consoles back in the day?
Sega at one time supporting 5 platforms at once.
Which was a big problem for them. The chicken and egg problem of not putting a lot into platforms that haven't sold well. But without the support consumers don't want to buy a platform. The Sega CD wasn't a particular success as it was pricey and games that were on both CD and cart were not seen as much of an upgrade over the base Genesis version, which resulted in meh support. The 32X was a complete waste of time, money, and goodwill from the consumer, which hurt the public's confidence in the company as a whole. That was a big component of the Saturn being a dud in what had been Sega's most important home console markets in the previous generation, North America and Europe. The premature surprise launch didn't help either. They should have cancelled the 32X when they realized the Saturn wasn't as far off as they feared, made the 32X games that were in development into Saturn games, and stuck to the original Saturn launch date so it would have enough games at launch instead of shooting themselves in the foot.
The thing about Primal Rage is, the graphics, the stop-motion models, are awesome.
The gameplay, on the other hand, is a bit...funky.
Vertigo was never available on the GameBoy and Game Gear versions in the Game Gear version Vertigo was in intro
Yesterday, I played the SNES port and I didn't expect much, but it was fun. Back then in the arcades, I was obsessed with this game (like with Mortal Kombat 1&2, Killer Instinct etc.) and I got the Megadrive version for following christmas. It was downgraded, but still good. Nice times!
The sound spasm at the end happens when I play it on an emulator too
not gonna lie, that commodore amiga soundtrack is fire to me. love it
Due to the strange attack commands I wasn't able to pull off
Special moves in all platforms. The function commands in this
game are absurd. As a result I have never been very good at this game.
I'm lousy at this game & I know it. I don't need anyone telling me.
I put this game right up top on My most despised fighters of all time.
I spent many a quarter on this in the arcades... was never good at it, but hey, it was still fun to me. Was certainly different than other fighters at the time which consisted of mostly human or human-like characters. I had the Midway Arcade Treasures on GC, too. Sadly, I no longer own either of them. :(
It seems like the best version of this game is the last version Midway Hidden treasures 2 so much more detail than the other versions, including arcade version. I'll download this rom ISO for the PS2 emulator, Rage 2 is awesome.
I'm curious about this 'Tug of War' mode that appears on some versions of the game. Though I doubt it has two of the characters pulling on a rope? I'm assuming it's a bit like the Death Match Mode in World Heroes 2 for the Neo Geo, where both players share the same life bar and whoever manages to fill up the bar with their own colour and decreases their opponents' one to nothing wins. However the bar regenerates whenever a character isn't being attacked, meaning you have to continue attacking until you win and because of the way the bar moves, it's like a game of Tug of War. I just checked an article on IGN and they confirm it. :)
The PC (DOS) version is in my opinion the best port because of the picture perfect adaptation from the uncut arcade material.
What baffles me is, the game gear was clearly superior in every way yet the gameboy got all the attention.
And people still asks why Nintendo makes underpowered hardware
+DR. BLUE You forgot it's drawbacks. Much more expensive. Eats up battery like there's no tomorrow. Almost too big to fit in your pocket etc.
Strider VM
well.... the Price, you get what you pay for. And size, I don't think any handheld ever has been made for pockets, except the Game Boy Pocket,and even that version had a carrying case
I agree 100% on the battery thing
The Lynx was even more superior to the Gameboy. So was the PC Engine GT
well I almost bought a Game Gear, until I heard about the battery life.
DR. BLUE exactly you hit the nail on the head there was some versions of games that was better on the game gear than the game boy and primal rage is a perfect example
The first step to being good at any fighting game ever:
Don't jump
Jumping was one of the only ways I could beat Vertigo.
How the fuck did this game not get it's own franchise???!!!
+samandmrcheese They made a sequel but it bombed during it's trial run in the arcade. Part of the reason was the monsters had alternate human form that you could switch between but at first glance it looked like there was no monsters at all because the human were the default forms
I find the MS-DOS version is the best that one which is close to the original Arcade, it's even better with a very good sound card that has awesome MIDI playback like the Gravis Ultrasound or a Roland MT-32.
Thanks ill try that 1
3DO/Sega Saturn/Jaguar CD and the Super Nintendo version wins for me.
Also shoutout to the ps1 conversion.
why do they character models glitch out and recover from a fall mid air on the arcade? I don't remember the arcade being so unfinished and glitchy like that.
It was always so much fun as a little girl waiting patiently in line behind the teenage boys before popping in my quarters and teaching them how to fuck shit up. Eventually got it for the Genesis along with the official guide. Talon was my bae.
I'd love to see a updated Primal Rage it'd be really cool if it could be in VR also T_T
I don't know how to do VR & even if I did, It would be far more work to do so. However! I may do a remake some day. But it will be a long way off.
well, i understand some people can't grasp the game, it was tough for me back then but only now that i got into fighting games i got so used to the game it's like second nature, i never got into SF MK etc.. cause they didn't have dinosaurs. my guess is, this was the only game to feature a completely different input system for the special moves, people were so into SF MK etc which used similar inputs that they could never get into this.
The best platform is dedicated arcade hardware. The dedicated arcade hardware was encrypted. When home ports came out the programmers moved on to better projects or left the industry all together so it was never decrypted. If you play PR in MAME or any home system the characters, when hit would land above the ground or the blood is tan instead of red in some hits (1:11) . That was their way of back in the day finding out who made hacked games of PR. Best way to play is original arcade hardware.
What's with the arcade version characters not touching the ground when they fall from a hit?
Loved the arcade version of this game. I just couldn't get the controls when it got ported to home systems... it really needed the joystick and big buttons! Plus it was hands-down the best version of this game! The Saturn comes second, but that port (plus the Midway Arcade Treasures version) has that stupid glitch where the blood becomes yellow in some attacks.
the one that impressed me, was the dos port, i wasnt expecting much, but i was wrong!
This arcade in the early 90s at Douglas Az Giggles ...where we rented movies games and nachos
played this shyt when I was growing up best game ever
CooL
From what I understand the arcade board itself was designed so that the original source code was protected, making it very hard to port. That and all the Mortal konbat ultra violence crazy and in this game, a victory which includes urinating on the defeated, caused changes as well.
it has anti air moves and sweeps just like every other game. You just
see them differently. I think the problem was slow processors and low
memory meant to make it look 'fast' they skipped frames and ala' stop
motion animation like Jason and the Argonauts... we have that jumpy
stuff. if they re scanned the models with all the frames and used the
processors we have now to speed it up and made real sets... it would
probably be beautiful.
For these characteristics is that it is a masterpiece of its time, it had not been unoriginal if they had like killer Instinct.
Still got mine on Gameboy all these years later..
What's considered the best version of Primal Rage, excluding the arcade version?
PS2/Xbox version are rare or only realed in perhaps America or Japan?
Sega Saturn hands down
AsianRetroGamer becuase your asian?
With the exception of the shitty 3DO and Jaguar, literally every single console this was ported to was asian you dumbfuck, what are you even trying to say? and don't bring up Xbox cuz that's just arcade hardware emulation, not a port
@@gregorioguerrero1124 ....So your saying XBOX version is Arcade perfect?
AsianRetroGamer With no animated Vs. screen? Rose tinted glasses huh?
Im shocked how terrible the 32X versions sounds compared to the Snes version i played as a kid.
John Galois well bits isn't everything lol
it was a fresh idea for a fighting game the others where only sf and mk characters
I'm usually able to beat the game spamming the same attack through all the fights
Well Made game!! =D
More videos keep it up boss
I remember paying £45 for the SNES version back in 1995.
Shame snes port was worst then amiga
iulian ispas Shame SNES port is better than the Amiga and Genesishit
I love this game when I was a kid. I mean, aside from Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter 2 this was the fighting game I loved. Looking at it now it feels like a rip-off of clay fighter/killer instinct. As strange as that sounds. Nothing like having dinosaurs and apes fight it out.
The arcade versions of 80s and 90s video games have the best graphics and look a whole lot better than the console versions.
That's true,but the ps2 version looks spot on.
Haha looking at these comments is a trip, I thought I was one of the only people who remembered this game.
played as blizzard. you freeze the opponent, uppercut them and have them fall on your fist. They will never touch the ground and you win against all opponents with 30+ hit combo's and no damage taken
Ok the Midway Arcade Treasures version is pretty much a later Arcade version of the game. But that Saturn version looked dope. I think it was exclusively developed for the Saturn. It bigger sprites and character models. Plus the gameplay ran smoother.
what do you think is better between mega drive and snes versions?
Aside from the sound issue the 3do sounded the best along side the snes and arcade copies.
I remember this game every time I listen to deep Purple's Smoke on the Water
Seems like the guy that made this video main character of choice is 'Sauron'... Has anybody else noticed this?!??
To sum it up, the Playstation and Saturn ports are the only versions that look like the arcade because they didn't shrink the characters way down
Thanks for the vid, I love them. I share your disdain for Primal Rage, definitely one of my least favorite fighting games--at least, ones that ended up having some sort of actual following (so we can skip "Time Killers" and "Rise of the Robots.")
Nowhere near the same weight class as Street Fighter II, Mortal Kombat II, hell, even Killer Instinct from that particular era.
I used to play the Amiga version. It wasn't the worst coinop conversion. It was converted by Probe, who also did the very playable Mortal Kombat conversions. At least it wasn't done by Tiertex!
I'm assuming that the Jaguar version was played on a real system?
It was emulated.
+mitu123Copper I find that hard to believe because to be perfectly honest, all the existing Atari Jaguar emulators are crap. They have problems with virtually every game I've tried.
lurkerrekrul Well, pretty much everything on here besides Gen 6 and higher is emulated, maybe there are flaws with the emulation not present in the video. I had issues with Saturn emulation on games I tried and it's why I prefer using my own real Saturn over it for footage and such.
The Jaguar version is commonly said to be a shit and when I see that cool video I simply can see this is not the case: it seems to be as cool as versions on other platforms of same period like the 3DO for example. Probably just because the Jaguar has a poor reputation and is not well known...
The specials were never a problem for me, you just hold down two buttons and tap a direction twice.
GENESIS!!!
Such a underated game. Probably the best name for a fighting game ever next to Mortal Kombat. The Saturn version easily takes it. For having such a short lifespan. It had the best 2D fighting game ports.
I have this on SNES still
Best: Atari Jaguar CD, 3DO, PlayStation, and Sega Saturn
Worst: Amiga
But there is only one best version.(It's the SNES)
Ryan Joseph William Mayleas don't be idiot snes ia worst then amiga
Best : Midway arcade treasures 2 version
Tanzim K best was PS2 and Arcade
Other than then music, the Ms-Dos version was the closest to the arcade when it came to the animation. Unfortunately good luck getting that to work as well.
I've been doing some shopping online and I need some opinions. Which port of this game would be better to get? The PS1 port or PS2 port from the midway arcade treasures 2? I want a port that isnt censored in anyway cause I read that some ports got rid of the ability to eat the native people or got rid of blood all together. Also the censoring of the "Golden Shower" fatality
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Yeah. And it looks better on those two systems. But none of them are censored to any degree as far as I know.
+Jacob W The only thing about the Midway Arcade Treasures 2 version, is that all though the music and sound effects are retain from the arcade, something is still absent. I know the Music cues are off. When you do they fatalities, the musical cue for the fatalities comes on but the background music stays on causing it to overlap the audio. In The Arcade version, once the musical cues come on the background music stops. That is the only minor issue I have with that but as far as the game play, it's pretty good. The one thing I like and prefer over the one for my Saturn, is the Final Battle. While my Saturn version has all the musical cues in place, it's missing the Combo Names and on the Finale battle, the game stops to load the next opponent, ruining the whole experience and plus the bodies don't decay and shift to the side, they just disappear.
I do believe the Saturn wins this one. Kuos to Saturn ( notice the size of a character sprites ).
For the old days the Jaguar version is the best : better frame rate and the graphic is equal with the playstation with his lowesr frame rate. The arcade version is about 60f/s and the PS2 and Xbox version is better than the original with more animation : a great game I'm impressed with the genesis/snes version that is quite respectable.
That disappointment with the version of the Atari Jaguar... now I understand why it was a complete failure.
“Arcade” is really from Midway Arcade Treasures. True arcade has all red blood. MAT could not find any of the original development team to help with the game security regarding the amount of gore. Due to that, any port thereafter can never be true and since, they cannot replicate full red blood which is why some hit emit no blood or tan blood.
I know this is an old comment, but I think you're mistaken. The 2.3 version on arcade had the same issue. I do think it was related to the copy protection on the game, but there is a lot of footage of the actual arcade version that shows that issue. Also the MAT version doesn't have characters fall down and float in the air like you see there. I know because I've been playing it recently and haven't seen that happen once, so I'm pretty sure that was fixed in MAT. Then again it is entirely possible that most of the footage is filmed using MAME which could potentially cause the issue too. But I know for sure that the MAT version only has the blood color issue.
wow, i didn't remember the snes version being that bad! Missing the title screen animation, backgrounds not looking much better than the genesis version but at least the gen version had the roars n growls after winning, snes is mute! WTF!?!
arcade emulated versions (MAME, basically any arcade rom including the midway treasures release) has buggy/absent special moves, bugged blood (some of it appears photonegative yellow sickly color) and bugged positioning upon character wakeup (sometimes they float in the air)...this still has never been fixed or addressed to this day. There is a romhack that does and they were planning on releasing it but the project was shut down and now the romhack is owned by only a select group of people and you have to basically know the guy who developed it to get a copy. lame
I wish some company would make new action figures for this. God I miss the old toy-line from Playmates.