This may sound really crazy but as a physical therapist it reminds me of the relationship between strength and weakness. Some people think it's just a matter of strengthening one area as opposed to another but the problem is that we may develop an imbalance. Strong muscles can also be too inflexible and really flexible areas can often be too weak. Finding the balance and training both sides in opposite ways at the same time is what creates equilibrium in a muscle system. Thank you for teaching me in the ways you have today.
Wish you were in Idaho I can’t get doctors and PT to Focus on my Psoas muscle all they want to do is focus on a old back injury and I’ve been suffering now for five years.
What a good comparison!!! Very insightful! If we all knew how to treat physical issues with the training you have had, I can imagine how those applications could be utilized for faith issues.
I have been working hand in hand with my Bishop and EQ President to open up a space in our ward to have these types of conversations. On Sunday we “stress tested” our quorum, based on Elder Renlund’s talk. It was hard… VERY hard. But in our stake our motto is “we can do hard things”, so we’re okay with that. A member of my quorum sent me this video today… I feel grateful to know that other groups of Saints are open to having the hard conversations, too. God bless you all as we try to navigate these perilous times as individuals AND congregations.
40 years ago I broke my soul and brain ALONE trying to figure this out as a new (from Protestant) convert. I'm crying hearing 40 years later someone succinctly explaining what my new convert "all or nothing" brain couldn't understand. I can do both NOW and spend my time helping others. Thanks, sir.
Thank you to all who made the viewing of the wonderful devotional possible. From a little group in the South West of Western Australia where we are just a handful and never have the opportunity to hear such wonderful discussions. So grateful for Bro Halverson and his Unshaken series. Love it all
I cannot get enough of your explanation on proving contraries. It will forever be a grounding and foundational truth in my testimony of Jesus Christ and his gospel as taught in the Book of Mormon AND The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Thanks again as always, Jared for your time and effort and your firm testimony of Christ and His gospel. Would it later be said that you were saved to be born in a time such as this that your light would shine so brightly that others would see and follow it to the Light which is in Christ? You are doing such a great work brother!
Sadly that’s where some of our members are today, having lost the excitement for the basics of the gospel now find themselves needing to be talked of the spiritual ledge. Thx a loving Father in Heaven for blessing use with people like this Brother to reason with those on the ledge. The gospel is simply beautiful. Simplicity in life insures a happy life!!! I had a gentleman ask me what’s different about your church then all other churches. I said knowing God loves ALL of His children and is a fair and just Father, has provided a means of salvation for ALL of His children through the sacred work of PROXY. I reminded him that proxy means to stand in for another, and that Christ performed the greatest act of proxy through His sacred and loving Atoning sacrifice. So a loving Father has made provisions to save ALL of His children if they so choose. The scripture says Except a man be born of the water and of the spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of Heaven. So for ALL who didn’t get the chance to be baptized while on the earth, God was thinking of you when He arranged for proxy work to be done on your behalf in Temples that now are filling the earth. Also your freedom to choose is never taken from you. This work is of God and the return of His precious Son I look forward to soon.
This whole concept is eye, brain and heart opening…how do I learn to become a unicyclist on a tight rope now🤷🏾♀️I love Brother Halverson’s talks❤️for so many reasons.
What an incredible talk. Thank you so much Brother Halverson for your years of study and dedication. I truly believe your long career to understand the gospel so deeply was necessary for the Lord to communicate through you a complicated but true subject. I'm very disappointed there isn't a book on the topic of proving contraries as explained by you. I hope you are able to find the means to provide such a book.
I have listened to this talk multiple times. I tend to be pretty hard on myself. Bro Halverson, your knowledge and understanding of the gospel eases my my mind and helps me see things in a more hopeful light. Thankyou.
Brother Halverson, Can't thank you enough for your wonderful insights and ability to clarify complex topics. As always, your testimony, your love, your encouragement, and your knowledge all shine through. Thanks for ALL you do to help the rest of us. And I pray that God will bless you and your family with the things they most need and that you will feel His blessings raining down on you. We sure appreciate your many sacrifices you make to help others. Your videos and priceless.
I’m so glad I found you on TH-cam. You are a great speaker and Teacher. How you do your sessions is amazing. Your talk at Highland Utah is stake Moved me to tears. What hit me the most was when you talked about the suicide. I have bipolar disorder. My parents had a real hard time when I was growing up. My family and I definitely had very Bad issues. Thank you for bringing out the subject of PTSD. They did the best they can. When looking back I really feel so guilty putting them through what I did. Thankfully I had many positive people and professional help to get me out of self-hate and my deep guilt thinking I messed up my family When I was in turmoil with my family I went and stayed with a Mormon family who took me in. When I was there we had come follow me every night. We were doing Doctrine and covenants and Joseph Smith. I fell in love with Joseph Smith and The Book of Mormon after those family nights. Then I had to leave them. They hook me up with Missionaries. I went to a Christian school. I was in kindergarten through elementary. So when I was in K and first grade I had seminary five days a week. I love the Scriptures. I grew up with stories from the old and New Testament. I was so enthralled with the stories in the Bible. It stays with to this day. . I love Come Follow me lessons. I was baptized when I was 17 and went to church, went to seminary and young youth activities. I was active around three or four years and I was having issues with Being a gay LGBTQIA+ in church. That’s when I fell from the church. People like you who are so uplifting and positive are very special and full of love. With God’s love. He introduced me to many special uplifting people who took me out of despair and made me a positive person today. You are added to that list. That should be in my prayers of thankfulness. Thank you for bringing that up. It took me 11/12 years being away from my family and meeting so many positive people in my life. Who took me out of the deepest well of self despair. Made me feel proud of myself and help my self-esteem. so happy to say that I do have a better outlook in life right now. The church is helping me a lot. I’ve been going back to Church for four years now. I’m trying to catch up with my scriptures. With my LD it is very hard for me to comprehend Written Scriptures. Your unshaken videos I do understand because you teach in a way that I can learn. Which is a very good quality in a teacher. So I am in Wisconsin now. I moved to Southern California. I lived all over orange county to Long Beach California.I wish I was there now. So I can go to your classes and meet you in the face to face I like how you put stuff in perspective and using issues with contrary components Many appreciation of you.
It sounds like your journey has been quite an adventure! I salute you for your courage to do what it takes to come to Christ. You are definitely swimming upstream with everything going on in the world these days!
Wow, thanks so much for sharing!! What an inspiring story that you have lived! My sister is bi-polar and we struggled growing up, but I love her dearly! She has left the church, BUT she has come closer to Christ recently and I’m hopeful she will put aside whatever it was that put a bad taste in her mouth about the church. The church isn’t perfect because people aren’t perfect, but the gospel of Christ is perfect and I do believe He guides this church of imperfect people. 🥰
Brother Halverson, please create a lesson on this material...proving contraries...all 3 hours of it. This information is so needed and critical to help people understand what's going on when they or others are struggling with their faith. This is such good information!!! Thank you for putting into words and concepts the faith crises dilemma and the solution to balance those issues. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! You are an amazing thinker and sharer and I really don't think you are as insensitive as you portray yourself to be. If you were, you wouldn't care about helping people through their problems. Who do ya think your foolin? 😲🤔😁 Hope you're feeling better now. You were a little under the weather a couple of days ago and I hope that's behind you now. Looking forward to your next Unshaken Saints lesson next week! Take care and be blessed!!! 😘
Dear Brother Halverson (and those who shared this talk,) Thank you for this comprehensive, compelling treatment of contraries! Though I have never heard the phenomenon of the paradoxical nature of truth regrouped in this way....it is an illuminating and useful tool for understanding (AND explaining) so much that defies simplistic dissection. Thank you!!! In general, I spend relatively little time on the internet but am grateful for the investment of heart, mind and time Brother Halverson has made to articulate the MOST important ideas and that he has, through the internet, made it available to all of us.
I don’t like being told that my concerns are doubts or questions. I used to have questions about the church. I still have some questions but I used to have more. I got some answers after a lot of research, pondering, prayers, and spiritual experiences. I put a lot of time and effort into this pursuit for years. However, the answers I got are not what the church leaders support. I could say more here, but I would like to keep it to myself.
I married my return missionary, to learn that he's one of those GBT in Uni. God thought me to ❤️ him out of the closet, then I did a magic trick before he could convince me to go down that path, with him. Sleeping with the enemy is very scary thing to learn, not to betray them to any one is the trick to success
I am a Boomer, a child of the "Greatest Generation" father. What an amazing experience especially commitment to God, how they treat others, long suffering , ethics, inclusivity --at least my father and his 12 siblings. You saw Zion people in action. Compare the G. Gen with the last three, very fascinating. My father would have loved the last three no matter the differences.
I really enjoyed this talk. He’s like the Jordan Peterson in our church. I’m a big fan of JP’s and there are so many similarities between what Jordan focuses on and what this brother says. Chaos and order and how they aren’t exactly polar opposites and we need a little bit of each in our lives for growth. Good stuff!!
When you sang the missing verse from "Follow the Prophet" I started busting out laughing because it is so true. I had to pause the video to call my mom, who is her ward's Primary President, and tell her about it. It harkins back to your comment on the faith journey - simple, complex, and then a return to simple. That missing verse is part of the complex portion of our individual journey of faith, hence our not including it when we are teaching our children the basic concepts of the gospel of Christ.
I had to pause and comment again. When you mentioned the question "Are you the intended audience?", and you talked about needing to teach two separate lessons to your class, it reminded me of a specific lesson that Jacob taught in the Book of Mormon. The one where he lamented the tender hearts that would be broken by the message he was commanded to share. He also had to teach two lessons, and even though he might have more clearly known how to "break up his class" there was probably no real way to do that, and so he was stuck in the same conundrum as yourself. I am sure that you both navigated the situation through the promptings of the Holy Ghost - to the blessing of all present then, and now. I am grateful for the lessons you share and have a testimony that you have been prepared by Heavenly Father, through your unique training, "for such a time as this."
Great job Brother Halverson. Thank you for your years of intellectual, secular, spiritual, anti, and all kinds of study which have brought you to this point. And thank you for compiling your thoughts and sharing them with the world. I am going to share this talk with a lot of people. Thank you thank you
Faith vs knowledge. You know how to present those contraries beautifully! So grateful for all I have learned from you over the years. Also grateful that the best kept secret in the church is now accessible to everyone! A member of my relief society presidency suggested that we watch this devotional for our activity next month. I got to brag that I’ve had the privilege of being taught by you in person. Keep up the good work!
I was thinking that President Nelson's first talk as prophet was an attempt to help us prove the contrary: "Revelation for the Church, Revelation for Our Lives". April 2018 ... and then Brother Jared brought it up 5 minutes later! 🤗
All people are ever responsible for their own thoughts 💬🤔🧐💭 and feelings that are going on in their own minds and hearts 💕😘🌹😘😇❤️🤩😍🥰 to help them navigate all issues.
I loved this! I will need to listen more times to ensure it sinks in. It reminded me of a quote attributed to Yogi Berra - "When you come to a fork in the road, take it!" haha
Also contrary to what many of the early church leaders said about gaining knowledge. They were taught to "seek ye out of the best books words of wisdom; seek learning, even by study and also by faith." (Doctrine and Covenants 88:118.) I support my leaders, which includes politely letting them know if they are in error (which in my experience is rare). But here's the thing: The more we study with a prayerful heart, the better we will be at discerning truth from error.
You continuously and consistently outdo yourself! Hearing you talk more in depth on subjects you can barely touch on was so inspiring and illuminating!! I will forever be grateful for the nurse at Primary Chiidrens Hospital that mentioned your Unshaken scripture podcast as my daughter’s baby was being cared for in the NICU for almost 3 months!! What a life saver!!
Correction: I meant you were able to go more in depth on some subjects than you normally can on your weekly program. Fun to see you in a little different format! Loved it!!!
Hurry and get your book out! Can't get enough! I think your a terrific teacher, because you get to where the tire meets the road and your so right, I think the whole world would understand themselves better if they could understand this talk.
Wow what a wonderful fireside. I am so glad I found it on you tube. I follow your lessons fatefully every week but it was wonderful to see you in a different setting. You are amazing. Thank you for your time and most of all your testimony. May the Lord bless you in all you do.
I've thought for a long time about this contrary issue because of Alma 42, where the phrase "can mercy rob justice". It made me start to understand the concept of contraries but I never knew the name or just how deep it was. Thank for this talk.
WOW... I really loved Jared Halverson's explanations for everything in his talk. It really opened my eyes to how we can be so one sided on so many levels about so many things, if not all things. Truly a great speaker and teacher. He has certainly opened my eyes and given me much to think about, and has given me the tools to make the necessary changes. I am striving to be like Jesus every day, but after hearing Jared speak, now I can be better in my efforts. I am not kidding myself, I know it will take discipline to master a good balance, but I now have a better understanding of how to achieve that. My name is Gina McDougall, of Capalaba Ward, in the Brisbane Australia Cleveland Stake, Queensland, Australia. Thank you for sharing this fireside video. 😊❤️🙏🇦🇺✡️🧔♀️🪔🇮🇱
This is so powerful, I just feel the spirit, and love the Gospel as a Convert to the Church this is the best decision I have made in my life, to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And continue to learn so much. Thankful to be a Ward Missionary as I love to teach.
Brother Halverson. I am grateful. For your faith, for your worthiness and your willingness that has enabled our Father in Heaven to use you and an instrument in his hands to share the knowledge and wisdom that He has blessed you with to bless us in ways that are much wanted and needed!. Thank you so much.
Wonderful presentation. I’m so very sorry to hear about the mental health struggles your children are afflicted with. I know the pain. I know the question of "why" and I know the comfort that can come in spite of the raging storm . Prayers for your family. 🙏
Can you add this to your podcast? Whenever I find myself stepping too far in either law or love I come back and listen and it guides me back to the middle.I’ll never be perfect at it but I’ll keep trying!
I love this message! The only contraries I struggled with was law vs love. Should love ever be restricted or balanced? And aren’t laws a manifestation of love? And are we not showing love when we correct someone who has broken a law? I think the contrary to law may be more in the lines of leniency or something similar. For example, sometimes the law is broken under extenuating circumstances such as when Nephi killed Laban. Whatever made it justifiable for Nephi to do that would be the contrary to law. But I loved all the other contraries - especially humanity vs divinity which is helping me navigate a faith crisis! Such an amazing speaker - I was blown away and still thinking about it.
Those were my thoughts too! I feel I understand what he’s trying to say with the love vs. law contrary, maybe a better word would be “compassion” instead of “love”? Compassion if out of balance can lead to being too lenient? Yeah, I don’t know…it’s hard to find the right word, maybe “mercy”. ??? But, I totally get what he’s saying and I totally get what you’re saying here too! Very good insight! 🙏❤️
Very respectfully, may I suggest a Biblical justification for Nephi killing Laban? In Exodus 21:12-14, the command, "Thou shalt not kill" found only a few verses earlier in the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:13) is modified with words that the Spirit quotes to Nephi as he is instructing Nephi to kill Laban ("And if a man lie not in wait and GOD DELIVER HIM INTO HIS HAND...) referenced in 1 Ne. 4:11,12, & 17 ("...the Lord hath delivered him into thy hands...") it is easier to embrace that sanctioned taking of Laban's life). My son showed that verse to me a few years ago. I hope my comment is received in the charitable manner in which I am sending it. 🙏
This was an amazing message from brother Halverson! My son took his class last semester at the U, but he’s not taking it again this semester and I’m very sad. I did email him this video With hopes he will change his mind!
Thank you Brother Halverson. This is what I’ve been learning but never had so many words for it till now! Here is a response: Which do we choose? Choose Life - with its ever living promise of another day to find the sweet spot - aways remembering that He is the Life. Choose Him - not an idea of Him but Him. We are redeemed through relationship with a real Person. And repentance is a moment by moment turning process. Turning to Him (and towards his body, the Church) “Till by turning turning we come round right” 🎶
Excellent! Have learned so much from you. We are UNSHAKEN fans. Thank you for sharing your vast amount of knowledge, insight and testimony. We need it.
Helping people navigate their questions? I had a dear friend who spent 3 hours a day every day of his adult life studying the scriptures and History of the Church and teachings of the Prophets. He was excommunicated a few years ago for asking too many question and having questions the GA's could not answer.
It doesn't sound like his case is being conveyed accurately. People don't get excommunicated for having questions. If that did happen then it should be appealed.
That doesn't sound like the whole story. Members aren't excommunicated for asking questions. Questions are the catalyst for revelation. Something else was the issue.
Thank you for sharing this wonderful fireside! Which one is it? Yes!! Love You, Brother Jared! Thank you for all you are doing to strengthen my testimony, and help me to know what course corrections I need to make….
Wow, this was phenomenal! Thank you so much for sharing this. This really got my wife and I thinking about contraries in our lives and how we can better find those Goldilock spots. We will definitely be checking out more of your talks.
"err on the other side will give you a chance to err a little less next time" the balance act is so tricky. Also, never thought about suicide the way you approached it. Thank you!
Dr. HALVERSON: First! Congratulations on your PHD. (I hope I have that right)?! I have watched you on TH-cam since the beginning of “Unshaken“ and “Come Follow Me”. Your Perspective of balancing Fairness to all the contraries have been your Gift from the beginning, for me. Your 1 to 2 to even more than 3 hours of picking gems to explore for each weekly assignment adding to my Religious Studies! In addition to the religiousity attained, you have the ability to weave spirituality within each verse. Is the part that I was missing and now have found. Thank you for sharing (what I see) your Knowledge, your Compassion and Humility. As an Enneagram teacher, “being” is all there is! Using the Sufi tradition for more than 30 years, I take action towards my goals, my morality, my purpose through my free will to get back to God. I know that you are an expert in many different religions. Have you studied the Sufis, the old Islamic Mystics? Their steps to higher levels are all about overcoming or balancing of each action brings you closer to God. the Enneagram is based on. It is based the whole entire religious spiritual devotion on in earth on earth is to is countries and to be aware and to overcome the negative
i love listening to Brother Jared talks and Sunday School lessons. I am the only Latter-day Saint in a Senior Health Facility, and on Sunday I have to listen to a Non-LDS Sunday Classes. You mention toward the end of your talk and said where do those who leave the LDS Church go? When a Protestant teacher start teaching from the Bible about Old Testament or the New Testament I pick up many false doctrine of their lessons. So I can't imagine any inactve member joining any other denominaton when so many teach false doctrines.
No where in scrioture sats "FOLLOW THE PHOPHET" that was a statement made by a member that turned into song. Scripture tells us to FOLLOW THE LORD, but LISTEN to the phophets, study things out, then take it to te LORD for us to be able to listen to the spirit for ourselves!!! Thank you for this eloquent talk!!!! I agreed with EVERYTHING you said!!!
@@corythewiz There is no place in scripture that says to "Follow the Prophet".... we are to follow the Lord. I'm not saying that we don't listen to the counsel of the Prophet, but we are to study things out, listen to God's 'servants' (as they are identified in Scripture) then pray for our own personal revelation with our Father. The prophet himself has always talked about personal revelation and reminds us often. It's very insulting to see people use him as a weapon to push their own opinions...
2 Nephi 2:2-4 Nevertheless Jacob, my firstborn in the wilderness, thou knowest the greatness of God; and he shall consecrate thine afflictions for thy gain. 3 Wherefore, thy soul shall be blessed, and thou shalt dwell safely with thy brother, Nephi; and thy days shall be spent in the service of thy God. Wherefore, I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; for thou hast beheld that in the fulness of time he cometh to bring salvation unto men. 4 And thou hast beheld in thy youth his glory; wherefore, thou art blessed even as they unto whom he shall minister in the flesh; for the Spirit is the same, yesterday, today, and forever. And the way is prepared from the fall of man, and salvation is free. Not exactly a mental disorder!!! Massive blessings at a very young age. Good luck finding a patriarchal blessing with those words!!!
Thank you for sharing your insights....I would like to comment about a quote President Monson gave...(there is a talk he gave as well about the Liahona and our Patriarchal Blessing's) as being a compass through life....and somehow I managed to "dust" mine off after several year's went by without reading it. I look forward to listening to your talk further. Thank you kindly. Wendy
I find that we need to hold to opposite things that are two in the tension without disregarding either one while we wait on the Lord to show us the fullness of the truth. The Saviour is the fullness. When there seems to be contradictions it is the Saviour that makes both possible if they really are both true, He makes mercy and justice possible simultaneously. God will either make it clear that one is wrong or show how they both work through Him.
Thank you Brother Jared. For condescending to this mortal plane & condescending further to this internet platform of teaching. God bless & protect you & your family & ministry. Thank you! 🙏💞
Well, we have all condescended to be here. Yes, Bro H is a gifted teacher, but we have lots of them in the Church. I love his lessons though and listen daily!
I think this “proving contraries” concept is important, there are many truths which exist on opposing ends of a continuum. They balance one another. Church members readily accept the interplay of many opposing truths, but then get hung up on others. But I would borrow from visual artists and the color wheel and call them complimentaries. It’s a much more positive way to look at opposites than “contraries.”
Brother Halverson, My brother recently told me he and his wife and all but one of his five children have left the church. I’m afraid to get too deep into his reasons why because I don’t want my faith shaken by false information. I did learn that he has a book called “View of the hebrews” ( I think) Have you heard of this book supposedly published in 1825? I desperately need a way to communicate with you. I need answers for myself.. and hopefully for my brother. I’m not sure how to reach you. Do you have an email I can contact? I have tremendous love and admiration for you and your work. I look forward to each new Unshaken Lesson every week. You’ve helped me in ways I can’t begin to describe here, thank you, from the bottom of my grateful heart, Brother Rogers
There's answers for all this stuff including the View of the Hebrews business. Satan of course tries to dissuade people from the truth, but as we work through the dilemmas our spiritual strength grows. Remember the hymn: "Through mists of darkness we MUST go."
Your faith won’t be shaken by false information. Your faith will be shaken by all the history that’s been covered up. If you don’t wanna know that the church isn’t true you better not go looking for answers .
I am currently reading The Complete Father Brown collection so I loved the GK Chesterton quotes. However, I believe you mentioned he was an atheist and I couldn’t find any evidence of that in a cursory search. Is it possible you confused him with CS Lewis?
The square as the lower law. A square is exact and true without any variance of degrees. A square is fixed and rigid and confirms order and definitely serves a purpose.A compass as the higher law which can create an infinite variability of radiuses.It is more open to flexibility and creation, Yes it receives its direction/revelation from one point but has tremendous flexibility in how it moves and measures. What’s interesting is that you can use a square to make a circle or radius and you can use a compass to check or make a square. Just some thoughts!!?? BTW I loved your devotional and it made me think of this.
I love the way Brother Halverson teaches. I have listened to this Fireside twice, so far. It’s a feast for sure. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us
I didn't go on a mission, dropped out of school, have a blue collar job and I have a testimony of Jesus Christ
This may sound really crazy but as a physical therapist it reminds me of the relationship between strength and weakness. Some people think it's just a matter of strengthening one area as opposed to another but the problem is that we may develop an imbalance. Strong muscles can also be too inflexible and really flexible areas can often be too weak. Finding the balance and training both sides in opposite ways at the same time is what creates equilibrium in a muscle system. Thank you for teaching me in the ways you have today.
Wish you were in Idaho I can’t get doctors and PT to Focus on my Psoas muscle all they want to do is focus on a old back injury and I’ve been suffering now for five years.
What a great metaphor, borne of real inside understanding. Thanks!
Agree 💯! Such a great metaphor
Thank you 🙏 that helps with my recovery, physical and spiritual
What a good comparison!!! Very insightful! If we all knew how to treat physical issues with the training you have had, I can imagine how those applications could be utilized for faith issues.
Great talk about mental gymnastics
I have been working hand in hand with my Bishop and EQ President to open up a space in our ward to have these types of conversations. On Sunday we “stress tested” our quorum, based on Elder Renlund’s talk. It was hard… VERY hard. But in our stake our motto is “we can do hard things”, so we’re okay with that. A member of my quorum sent me this video today… I feel grateful to know that other groups of Saints are open to having the hard conversations, too. God bless you all as we try to navigate these perilous times as individuals AND congregations.
40 years ago I broke my soul and brain ALONE trying to figure this out as a new (from Protestant) convert. I'm crying hearing 40 years later someone succinctly explaining what my new convert "all or nothing" brain couldn't understand. I can do both NOW and spend my time helping others. Thanks, sir.
Grateful you figured it out enough to take a leap of faith! You’ve changed your children’s lives forever
Thank you for your beautiful comment.
Precisely said and agreed 100%
Thank you to all who made the viewing of the wonderful devotional possible. From a little group in the South West of Western Australia where we are just a handful and never have the opportunity to hear such wonderful discussions. So grateful for Bro Halverson and his Unshaken series. Love it all
Much love from Lehi, Utah! ❤
Oh!! There are so many you tube channels that teach the gospel along with all the speeches from all 3 BYU campuses and Ensign College.
I cannot get enough of your explanation on proving contraries. It will forever be a grounding and foundational truth in my testimony of Jesus Christ and his gospel as taught in the Book of Mormon AND The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Thanks again as always, Jared for your time and effort and your firm testimony of Christ and His gospel. Would it later be said that you were saved to be born in a time such as this that your light would shine so brightly that others would see and follow it to the Light which is in Christ? You are doing such a great work brother!
Lots of people leave the Church to experience more Spirit more grace more community more compassion!
That’s ok!
Sadly that’s where some of our members are today, having lost the excitement for the basics of the gospel now find themselves needing to be talked of the spiritual ledge. Thx a loving Father in Heaven for blessing use with people like this Brother to reason with those on the ledge.
The gospel is simply beautiful.
Simplicity in life insures a happy life!!!
I had a gentleman ask me what’s different about your church then all other churches. I said knowing God loves ALL of His children and is a fair and just Father, has provided a means of salvation for ALL of His children through the sacred work of PROXY.
I reminded him that proxy means to stand in for another, and that Christ performed the greatest act of proxy through His sacred and loving Atoning sacrifice. So a loving Father has made provisions to save ALL of His children if they so choose. The scripture says Except a man be born of the water and of the spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of Heaven. So for ALL who didn’t get the chance to be baptized while on the earth, God was thinking of you when He arranged for proxy work to be done on your behalf in Temples that now are filling the earth. Also your freedom to choose is never taken from you. This work is of God and the return of His precious Son I look forward to soon.
Z 38:12
This whole concept is eye, brain and heart opening…how do I learn to become a unicyclist on a tight rope now🤷🏾♀️I love Brother Halverson’s talks❤️for so many reasons.
What an incredible talk. Thank you so much Brother Halverson for your years of study and dedication. I truly believe your long career to understand the gospel so deeply was necessary for the Lord to communicate through you a complicated but true subject. I'm very disappointed there isn't a book on the topic of proving contraries as explained by you. I hope you are able to find the means to provide such a book.
I have listened to this talk multiple times. I tend to be pretty hard on myself. Bro Halverson, your knowledge and understanding of the gospel eases my my mind and helps me see things in a more hopeful light. Thankyou.
Brother Halverson, Can't thank you enough for your wonderful insights and ability to clarify complex topics. As always, your testimony, your love, your encouragement, and your knowledge all shine through. Thanks for ALL you do to help the rest of us. And I pray that God will bless you and your family with the things they most need and that you will feel His blessings raining down on you. We sure appreciate your many sacrifices you make to help others. Your videos and priceless.
He should do one where he just answers questions, I mean the talk was good, but the way he answers questions is brilliant.
I’m so glad I found you on TH-cam. You are a great speaker and Teacher. How you do your sessions is amazing. Your talk at Highland Utah is stake Moved me to tears. What hit me the most was when you talked about the suicide.
I have bipolar disorder. My parents had a real hard time when I was growing up. My family and I definitely had very Bad issues. Thank you for bringing out the subject of PTSD. They did the best they can. When looking back I really feel so guilty putting them through what I did. Thankfully I had many positive people and professional help to get me out of self-hate and my deep guilt thinking I messed up my family
When I was in turmoil with my family I went and stayed with a Mormon family who took me in. When I was there we had come follow me every night. We were doing Doctrine and covenants and Joseph Smith. I fell in love with Joseph Smith and The Book of Mormon after those family nights. Then I had to leave them. They hook me up with Missionaries.
I went to a Christian school. I was in kindergarten through elementary. So when I was in K and first grade I had seminary five days a week.
I love the Scriptures. I grew up with stories from the old and New Testament. I was so enthralled with the stories in the Bible. It stays with to this day. . I love Come Follow me lessons.
I was baptized when I was 17 and went to church, went to seminary and young youth activities. I was active around three or four years and I was having issues with Being a gay LGBTQIA+ in church. That’s when I fell from the church.
People like you who are so uplifting and positive are very special and full of love. With God’s love. He introduced me to many special uplifting people who took me out of despair and made me a positive person today. You are added to that list. That should be in my prayers of thankfulness. Thank you for bringing that up.
It took me 11/12 years being away from my family and meeting so many positive people in my life. Who took me out of the deepest well of self despair. Made me feel proud of myself and help my self-esteem. so happy to say that I do have a better outlook in life right now. The church is helping me a lot.
I’ve been going back to Church for four years now. I’m trying to catch up with my scriptures. With my LD it is very hard for me to comprehend Written Scriptures. Your unshaken videos I do understand because you teach in a way that I can learn. Which is a very good quality in a teacher.
So I am in Wisconsin now. I moved to Southern California. I lived all over orange county to Long Beach California.I wish I was there now. So I can go to your classes and meet you in the face to face
I like how you put stuff in perspective and using issues with contrary components
Many appreciation of you.
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It sounds like your journey has been quite an adventure! I salute you for your courage to do what it takes to come to Christ. You are definitely swimming upstream with everything going on in the world these days!
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Wow, thanks so much for sharing!! What an inspiring story that you have lived! My sister is bi-polar and we struggled growing up, but I love her dearly! She has left the church, BUT she has come closer to Christ recently and I’m hopeful she will put aside whatever it was that put a bad taste in her mouth about the church. The church isn’t perfect because people aren’t perfect, but the gospel of Christ is perfect and I do believe He guides this church of imperfect people. 🥰
Brother Halverson, please create a lesson on this material...proving contraries...all 3 hours of it. This information is so needed and critical to help people understand what's going on when they or others are struggling with their faith. This is such good information!!! Thank you for putting into words and concepts the faith crises dilemma and the solution to balance those issues. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! You are an amazing thinker and sharer and I really don't think you are as insensitive as you portray yourself to be. If you were, you wouldn't care about helping people through their problems. Who do ya think your foolin? 😲🤔😁 Hope you're feeling better now. You were a little under the weather a couple of days ago and I hope that's behind you now. Looking forward to your next Unshaken Saints lesson next week! Take care and be blessed!!! 😘
This gentleman is going to write a book on the new buzz words he’s created.
Please publish your paper!
I understand Enos' wrestle with the spirit and how absolute trust and focus on the Savior's plan, anchors us in as we do wrestle.
Dear Brother Halverson (and those who shared this talk,)
Thank you for this comprehensive, compelling treatment of contraries! Though I have never heard the phenomenon of the paradoxical nature of truth regrouped in this way....it is an illuminating and useful tool for understanding (AND explaining) so much that defies simplistic dissection. Thank you!!! In general, I spend relatively little time on the internet but am grateful for the investment of heart, mind and time Brother Halverson has made to articulate the MOST important ideas and that he has, through the internet, made it available to all of us.
An inspired talk. Thank you for sharing this!
I don’t like being told that my concerns are doubts or questions. I used to have questions about the church. I still have some questions but I used to have more. I got some answers after a lot of research, pondering, prayers, and spiritual experiences. I put a lot of time and effort into this pursuit for years. However, the answers I got are not what the church leaders support. I could say more here, but I would like to keep it to myself.
I married my return missionary, to learn that he's one of those GBT in Uni. God thought me to ❤️ him out of the closet, then I did a magic trick before he could convince me to go down that path, with him. Sleeping with the enemy is very scary thing to learn, not to betray them to any one is the trick to success
"When we balance them, then we will be Zion."
Powerful statement! I look forward to that day too!
I am a Boomer, a child of the "Greatest Generation" father. What an amazing experience especially commitment to God, how they treat others, long suffering , ethics, inclusivity --at least my father and his 12 siblings. You saw Zion people in action. Compare the G. Gen with the last three, very fascinating. My father would have loved the last three no matter the differences.
I really enjoyed this talk. He’s like the Jordan Peterson in our church. I’m a big fan of JP’s and there are so many similarities between what Jordan focuses on and what this brother says. Chaos and order and how they aren’t exactly polar opposites and we need a little bit of each in our lives for growth. Good stuff!!
Yes yes and yes
Has anyone done a transcript of this? I learn best by reading. I love his explanation of the Love and Law principal
TH-cam offers live transcripts now. I don't think they did a year ago when you commented...
When you sang the missing verse from "Follow the Prophet" I started busting out laughing because it is so true. I had to pause the video to call my mom, who is her ward's Primary President, and tell her about it. It harkins back to your comment on the faith journey - simple, complex, and then a return to simple. That missing verse is part of the complex portion of our individual journey of faith, hence our not including it when we are teaching our children the basic concepts of the gospel of Christ.
I had to pause and comment again. When you mentioned the question "Are you the intended audience?", and you talked about needing to teach two separate lessons to your class, it reminded me of a specific lesson that Jacob taught in the Book of Mormon. The one where he lamented the tender hearts that would be broken by the message he was commanded to share. He also had to teach two lessons, and even though he might have more clearly known how to "break up his class" there was probably no real way to do that, and so he was stuck in the same conundrum as yourself. I am sure that you both navigated the situation through the promptings of the Holy Ghost - to the blessing of all present then, and now. I am grateful for the lessons you share and have a testimony that you have been prepared by Heavenly Father, through your unique training, "for such a time as this."
Great job Brother Halverson. Thank you for your years of intellectual, secular, spiritual, anti, and all kinds of study which have brought you to this point. And thank you for compiling your thoughts and sharing them with the world. I am going to share this talk with a lot of people. Thank you thank you
I. Needed. This.
Faith vs knowledge. You know how to present those contraries beautifully! So grateful for all I have learned from you over the years. Also grateful that the best kept secret in the church is now accessible to everyone! A member of my relief society presidency suggested that we watch this devotional for our activity next month. I got to brag that I’ve had the privilege of being taught by you in person. Keep up the good work!
Most my friends who left the church went to evangelical grace based churches.
Superb insights on becoming aware of the contrary and choosing as much as possible to balance on the apex.
I was thinking that President Nelson's first talk as prophet was an attempt to help us prove the contrary: "Revelation for the Church, Revelation for Our Lives". April 2018
... and then Brother Jared brought it up 5 minutes later! 🤗
All people are ever responsible for their own thoughts 💬🤔🧐💭 and feelings that are going on in their own minds and hearts 💕😘🌹😘😇❤️🤩😍🥰 to help them navigate all issues.
I loved this! I will need to listen more times to ensure it sinks in.
It reminded me of a quote attributed to Yogi Berra - "When you come to a fork in the road, take it!" haha
My heart was broken when my Bishop said "I didn't need to study anything, I just had to follow the prophet".... This is contrary to scripture!!!
Also contrary to what many of the early church leaders said about gaining knowledge. They were taught to "seek ye out of the best books words of wisdom; seek learning, even by study and also by faith." (Doctrine and Covenants 88:118.) I support my leaders, which includes politely letting them know if they are in error (which in my experience is rare). But here's the thing: The more we study with a prayerful heart, the better we will be at discerning truth from error.
You continuously and consistently outdo yourself! Hearing you talk more in depth on subjects you can barely touch on was so inspiring and illuminating!! I will forever be grateful for the nurse at Primary Chiidrens Hospital that mentioned your Unshaken scripture podcast as my daughter’s baby was being cared for in the NICU for almost 3 months!! What a life saver!!
Correction: I meant you were able to go more in depth on some subjects than you normally can on your weekly program. Fun to see you in a little different format! Loved it!!!
Hurry and get your book out! Can't get enough! I think your a terrific teacher, because you get to where the tire meets the road and your so right, I think the whole world would understand themselves better if they could understand this talk.
Wow what a wonderful fireside. I am so glad I found it on you tube. I follow your lessons fatefully every week but it was wonderful to see you in a different setting. You are amazing. Thank you for your time and most of all your testimony. May the Lord bless you in all you do.
Lovely Freudian slip! I want to follow lessons fatefully too…
We also need you to write your book!!!!!!❤🎉 BOOKS!!!
Watching from Nagoya Japan belong to Fukutoku Ward I’m always watching Brother Jared in Unshaken and found my knowledge grows bigger watching him
This talk struck me with such force. It really helped me reframe how to understand so many complex issues regarding faith and doubt. Thank you!
What a truly scary time we live in... and few have eyes to see and ears to hear
I've thought for a long time about this contrary issue because of Alma 42, where the phrase "can mercy rob justice". It made me start to understand the concept of contraries but I never knew the name or just how deep it was. Thank for this talk.
WOW... I really loved Jared Halverson's explanations for everything in his talk. It really opened my eyes to how we can be so one sided on so many levels about so many things, if not all things. Truly a great speaker and teacher. He has certainly opened my eyes and given me much to think about, and has given me the tools to make the necessary changes. I am striving to be like Jesus every day, but after hearing Jared speak, now I can be better in my efforts. I am not kidding myself, I know it will take discipline to master a good balance, but I now have a better understanding of how to achieve that. My name is Gina McDougall, of Capalaba Ward, in the Brisbane Australia Cleveland Stake, Queensland, Australia. Thank you for sharing this fireside video. 😊❤️🙏🇦🇺✡️🧔♀️🪔🇮🇱
This is so powerful, I just feel the spirit, and love the Gospel as a Convert to the Church this is the best decision I have made in my life, to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And continue to learn so much. Thankful to be a Ward Missionary as I love to teach.
Brother Halverson. I am grateful. For your faith, for your worthiness and your willingness that has enabled our Father in Heaven to use you and an instrument in his hands to share the knowledge and wisdom that He has blessed you with to bless us in ways that are much wanted and needed!. Thank you so much.
Probably my favorite talk I’ve ever heard. Thank you, thank you, thank you. 🙏
Wonderful presentation. I’m so very sorry to hear about the mental health struggles your children are afflicted with. I know the pain. I know the question of "why" and I know the comfort that can come in spite of the raging storm . Prayers for your family. 🙏
Can you add this to your podcast? Whenever I find myself stepping too far in either law or love I come back and listen and it guides me back to the middle.I’ll never be perfect at it but I’ll keep trying!
This just popped up! Dang you look good Brother Halverson and keep up the great work!
Thank you very much. Fantastic talk. I need to share this with my love one 😍👏
I love this message! The only contraries I struggled with was law vs love. Should love ever be restricted or balanced? And aren’t laws a manifestation of love? And are we not showing love when we correct someone who has broken a law? I think the contrary to law may be more in the lines of leniency or something similar. For example, sometimes the law is broken under extenuating circumstances such as when Nephi killed Laban. Whatever made it justifiable for Nephi to do that would be the contrary to law. But I loved all the other contraries - especially humanity vs divinity which is helping me navigate a faith crisis! Such an amazing speaker - I was blown away and still thinking about it.
Those were my thoughts too! I feel I understand what he’s trying to say with the love vs. law contrary, maybe a better word would be “compassion” instead of “love”? Compassion if out of balance can lead to being too lenient? Yeah, I don’t know…it’s hard to find the right word, maybe “mercy”. ??? But, I totally get what he’s saying and I totally get what you’re saying here too! Very good insight! 🙏❤️
Nephi's execution of Laban was lawful.
Very respectfully, may I suggest a Biblical justification for Nephi killing Laban? In Exodus 21:12-14, the command, "Thou shalt not kill" found only a few verses earlier in the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:13) is modified with words that the Spirit quotes to Nephi as he is instructing Nephi to kill Laban ("And if a man lie not in wait and GOD DELIVER HIM INTO HIS HAND...) referenced in 1 Ne. 4:11,12, & 17 ("...the Lord hath delivered him into thy hands...") it is easier to embrace that sanctioned taking of Laban's life).
My son showed that verse to me a few years ago. I hope my comment is received in the charitable manner in which I am sending it. 🙏
The laws of God are loving because they include temperance that ensures they stay loving.
@@androcles7 "awful" There. I fixed it.
This was incredible! I have forwarded to many friends and family. You truly have a gift of teaching!
So cool, and introduced by a friend who used to live in Bon Air ward, North Chesterfield, Virginia!! Awesome!!!
This was an amazing message from brother Halverson! My son took his class last semester at the U, but he’s not taking it again this semester and I’m very sad. I did email him this video With hopes he will change his mind!
Thank you Brother Halverson. This is what I’ve been learning but never had so many words for it till now! Here is a response: Which do we choose? Choose Life - with its ever living promise of another day to find the sweet spot - aways remembering that He is the Life. Choose Him - not an idea of Him but Him. We are redeemed through relationship with a real Person. And repentance is a moment by moment turning process. Turning to Him (and towards his body, the Church) “Till by turning turning we come round right” 🎶
Booyah!!!!!!
Excellent! Have learned so much from you. We are UNSHAKEN fans. Thank you for sharing your vast amount of knowledge, insight and testimony. We need it.
Boom! now this will blow your mind and makes so much sense.
This is my new Jordan Peterson.
I have learned a lot of things from Brother Halverson during the pandemic.
So good! Thank you
Helping people navigate their questions? I had a dear friend who spent 3 hours a day every day of his adult life studying the scriptures and History of the Church and teachings of the Prophets. He was excommunicated a few years ago for asking too many question and having questions the GA's could not answer.
It doesn't sound like his case is being conveyed accurately. People don't get excommunicated for having questions. If that did happen then it should be appealed.
That doesn't sound like the whole story. Members aren't excommunicated for asking questions. Questions are the catalyst for revelation. Something else was the issue.
Look up the the September 6.
All you taught rings so true to both me and my husband. Thank you sooo much. Your sweet dad was our Stake president in Valencia😊
Thank you for sharing this wonderful fireside!
Which one is it? Yes!!
Love You, Brother Jared!
Thank you for all you are doing to strengthen my testimony, and help me to know what course corrections I need to make….
Some tough topics covered and I'm grateful for it.
My enthusiastic "Amen" added 😊
What an Amazing lecture on proving contraries! You are such an amazing teacher Bro Halverson!
Love this Fireside
Or Talk
It's definitely keeping 1:14:15
Wow, this was phenomenal! Thank you so much for sharing this. This really got my wife and I thinking about contraries in our lives and how we can better find those Goldilock spots. We will definitely be checking out more of your talks.
Thank you!
To put your lectures on TH-cam would be excellent. Why wait. We need good material to navigate life. Jordan Peterson has been doing for years.
"err on the other side will give you a chance to err a little less next time" the balance act is so tricky. Also, never thought about suicide the way you approached it. Thank you!
Dr. HALVERSON: First! Congratulations on your PHD. (I hope I have that right)?! I have watched you on TH-cam since the beginning of “Unshaken“ and “Come Follow Me”. Your Perspective of balancing Fairness to all the contraries have been your Gift from the beginning, for me.
Your 1 to 2 to even more than 3 hours of picking gems to explore for each weekly assignment adding to my Religious Studies! In addition to the religiousity attained, you have the ability to weave spirituality within each verse. Is the part that I was missing and now have found. Thank you for sharing (what I see) your Knowledge, your Compassion and Humility.
As an Enneagram teacher, “being” is all there is! Using the Sufi tradition for more than 30 years, I take action towards my goals, my morality, my purpose through my free will to get back to God.
I know that you are an expert in many different religions. Have you studied the Sufis, the old Islamic Mystics? Their steps to higher levels are all about overcoming or balancing of each action brings you closer to God. the Enneagram is based on. It is based the whole entire religious spiritual devotion on in earth on earth is to is countries and to be aware and to overcome the negative
i love listening to Brother Jared talks and Sunday School lessons. I am the only Latter-day Saint in a Senior Health Facility, and on Sunday I have to listen to a Non-LDS Sunday Classes. You mention toward the end of your talk and said where do those who leave the LDS Church go? When a Protestant teacher start teaching from the Bible about Old Testament or the New Testament I pick up many false doctrine of their lessons. So I can't imagine any inactve member joining any other denominaton when so many teach false doctrines.
No where in scrioture sats "FOLLOW THE PHOPHET" that was a statement made by a member that turned into song.
Scripture tells us to FOLLOW THE LORD, but LISTEN to the phophets, study things out, then take it to te LORD for us to be able to listen to the spirit for ourselves!!!
Thank you for this eloquent talk!!!! I agreed with EVERYTHING you said!!!
What about the primary song that repeats it 50 times?
@@corythewiz There is no place in scripture that says to "Follow the Prophet".... we are to follow the Lord. I'm not saying that we don't listen to the counsel of the Prophet, but we are to study things out, listen to God's 'servants' (as they are identified in Scripture) then pray for our own personal revelation with our Father. The prophet himself has always talked about personal revelation and reminds us often. It's very insulting to see people use him as a weapon to push their own opinions...
@@thesecretdogooders3286 but the song kids still sing on the regular. What about that?
YES!!! I could never denie that God told me the BOM is true, no matter what other questions i have
2 Nephi 2:2-4
Nevertheless Jacob, my firstborn in the wilderness, thou knowest the greatness of God; and he shall consecrate thine afflictions for thy gain.
3 Wherefore, thy soul shall be blessed, and thou shalt dwell safely with thy brother, Nephi; and thy days shall be spent in the service of thy God. Wherefore, I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; for thou hast beheld that in the fulness of time he cometh to bring salvation unto men.
4 And thou hast beheld in thy youth his glory; wherefore, thou art blessed even as they unto whom he shall minister in the flesh; for the Spirit is the same, yesterday, today, and forever. And the way is prepared from the fall of man, and salvation is free.
Not exactly a mental disorder!!! Massive blessings at a very young age. Good luck finding a patriarchal blessing with those words!!!
Thank you for sharing your insights....I would like to comment about a quote President Monson gave...(there is a talk he gave as well about the Liahona and our Patriarchal Blessing's) as being a compass through life....and somehow I managed to "dust" mine off after several year's went by without reading it. I look forward to listening to your talk further. Thank you kindly. Wendy
I love this gifted teacher! He has changed my life by helping me to understand the scriptures.
Wow!! Amazing!!!
I find that we need to hold to opposite things that are two in the tension without disregarding either one while we wait on the Lord to show us the fullness of the truth. The Saviour is the fullness. When there seems to be contradictions it is the Saviour that makes both possible if they really are both true, He makes mercy and justice possible simultaneously. God will either make it clear that one is wrong or show how they both work through Him.
Thank you Brother Jared. For condescending to this mortal plane & condescending further to this internet platform of teaching.
God bless & protect you & your family & ministry.
Thank you! 🙏💞
Well, we have all condescended to be here. Yes, Bro H is a gifted teacher, but we have lots of them in the Church. I love his lessons though and listen daily!
That was incredible! Thank you so much for sharing.
Thank you Bro H!!!
Thank you Jared!!
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I think this “proving contraries” concept is important, there are many truths which exist on opposing ends of a continuum. They balance one another. Church members readily accept the interplay of many opposing truths, but then get hung up on others. But I would borrow from visual artists and the color wheel and call them complimentaries. It’s a much more positive way to look at opposites than “contraries.”
Lovely Talk
Oh, my gosh, this is good!
Brother Halverson,
My brother recently told me he and his wife and all but one of his five children have left the church.
I’m afraid to get too deep into his reasons why because I don’t want my faith shaken by false information.
I did learn that he has a book called “View of the hebrews” ( I think)
Have you heard of this book supposedly published in 1825?
I desperately need a way to communicate with you. I need answers for myself.. and hopefully for my brother. I’m not sure how to reach you. Do you have an email I can contact?
I have tremendous love and admiration for you and your work. I look forward to each new Unshaken Lesson every week. You’ve helped me in ways I can’t begin to describe here, thank you, from the bottom of my grateful heart,
Brother Rogers
There's answers for all this stuff including the View of the Hebrews business. Satan of course tries to dissuade people from the truth, but as we work through the dilemmas our spiritual strength grows. Remember the hymn: "Through mists of darkness we MUST go."
Your faith won’t be shaken by false information. Your faith will be shaken by all the history that’s been covered up. If you don’t wanna know that the church isn’t true you better not go looking for answers .
His email address is in the video at 1:02:23
@@rebekahwright7753 So, so, SO much truth in this statement!!!!!
Wonderful explination of the Golden Mean.
Wow
Loved that face of insensitivity. So awesome!
I am currently reading The Complete Father Brown collection so I loved the GK Chesterton quotes. However, I believe you mentioned he was an atheist and I couldn’t find any evidence of that in a cursory search. Is it possible you confused him with CS Lewis?
This is incredible. Wow.
The square as the lower law. A square is exact and true without any variance of degrees. A square is fixed and rigid and confirms order and definitely serves a purpose.A compass as the higher law which can create an infinite variability of radiuses.It is more open to flexibility and creation, Yes it receives its direction/revelation from one point but has tremendous flexibility in how it moves and measures. What’s interesting is that you can use a square to make a circle or radius and you can use a compass to check or make a square. Just some thoughts!!?? BTW I loved your devotional and it made me think of this.
wow~so powerful. Thank you
Thanks so much another enlightening experience.
I love the way Brother Halverson teaches. I have listened to this Fireside twice, so far. It’s a feast for sure. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us