It's rough to see how low Philly went to to get the results that they have had since they started The Process. No finals appearance or even a conference finals.
@@g.ferreira921 They were never getting Tatum. Boston would have kept the #1 pick if they knew Philly or LA wanted Tatum. Hindsight, Philly should have drafted Mitchell or Bam instead.
The only bust they drafted was jahil okafor. People forget simmons is an all star and all nba player, and fultz was destined to be good but he just dealt with injuries
drafting fultz was not the issue it was trading up to it, basically any team not named the celtics with a high pick wanted him he just forgot how to shoot, their problem was not resigning Jimmy
@@davidstring8301 Even though they didn't get the best player, Ingram and Ball aren't bad. They just became better players once they both left LA, but even before he was traded, Ingram was starting to warm up. Still, Lakers are definitely lucky they play in LA otherwise they would be an absolute disaster.
It's almost as though you need a team culture focused around strong leadership vs. just assuming players will come to save you to actually be champions. Who would have imagined that?
The Butler sign and trade (and even getting two wings in the first place) was the straw that broke the camels back. Don’t see why you’d EVER choose Richardson and Harris over JB. It put Ben in a position where his weaknesses wouldn’t be covered on the floor bc yes he distributes but he worked really well in the post with JB on the wing. Ben was always better on the break than in sets, especially when those sets weren’t running through him. Not somebody who’s gon touch the ball every play and create his own. Terrible personnel decisions overall that set them back years.
Hinkie got screwed over when he was pushed out. The Process was radical but it was working. All that cap space. All those first round picks. All the young talent. I have no question he would've gunned after big name free agents with that cap room and probably could've been successful in doing so. Instead it all gets screwed up by Colangelo and Elton Brand. Now the Sixers are back in playoff mediocrity. The same place they were in prior to Hinkie's arrival.
Facts. Hinkie hit on a lot in the second round and undrafted players too. I am not going to try to predict what he would have done had he still been there but I feel his vison would have been better than what is currently there. Its also messed up he got pushed out only to have his model of franchise building become acceptable a few years later.
Not that Brand has been great, but I think they were right to push Hinkie out. Who knows if Okafor would have worked out in any circumstance, but part of the problem with Simmons and even Embiid to a lesser extent is they never had a coach and front office to push them to be leaders cause of the "Fuck it, we'll just get a high draft pick later on" attitude. I feel like if Philly had the mindset of a front office like San Antonio, Toronto or Memphis, they are a borderline dynasty by now.
was hinke really a good talent evaluator? his draft history is very spotty at best for every Embiid you have multiple fultzs or jahlil okafor elfred payton or michael carter williams he got fired because he was bad at the draft and got lucky once
@@420bengalfan but fultz wasn't Hinkie. He also correctly moved on from MCW after 1 season. With Elfrid Payton he traded for a better player(Dario Saric) plus a 1st and second rd pick. I will give that Jahil Okafor was a big miss. I feel they drafted him with the idea of trading him for more but he was acquired just as big men of his skill set saw their value diminish.
Winning takes time. Winning takes patience. Winning takes using players where they best fit. Winning takes developing players. Philadelphia 76ers followed none of that to waste the process.
The big problems of 76ers are: bad trades and bust picks. Just imagine what have could happen if they could draft Fox, Tatum or Mitchell instead of Fultz and re-signing Jimmy. The Process deserve to win the ring so he needs to get out of Philly
You forgot to add the Mikhail Bridges trade. Very bad move that I knew would set them back years & years. Can you imagine Maxey, Harden, Thybulle, Bridges & JoJo right now?! Omgsshhh!!!
They weren’t rebuilding their core players were out for long stretches with injuries. They were waiting for them all the get back together and then won another chip
retooling is different from rebuilding. The Warriors still had their pieces they were just damaged and needed repair. They let their young guys get experience and signed cheap vets that made differences on both ends of the court. They didn’t have to trade anyone essential besides Dlo for Wiggs.
@Kings Will Soon Rise Yeah, and Ben Simmons was a can't miss, generational talent that you had to pick at the time. Him & Ingram were can't miss prospects like Ja & Zion were in the 2019 draft. Personally, they should've went went with BI. I feel that BI & JoJo together would have a championship together now.
This is like a curse for Philadelphia. No matter how much they effort, they are unavailable to reach the conference finals. Let's hope they don't waste more Embiid years soon. They need a good backcourt and a great shooter and defender.
Nah like serious question at one point do we consider the process a failure? They had multiple 1st round picks and only drafted 2 all nba performers so far with one them leaving the rest have been bust and haven’t even sniffed a conference final.
I swear Trusting the Process is like watching a novella. I became curious after the Simmon fiasco and I kinda feel bad for the guy. Learning about the history and the mistakes and the struggle in rebuilding is impressive. Regarless of what anybody says the Process isn't done until Embiid and the Sixers wins a chip, for sure.
As a die hard Toronto Sports fan, the Philadelphia 76ers are similar to the Toronto Maple Leafs. They're literally the Toronto Maple Leafs of Philadelphia. From playoff series droughts (mostly because they can't make it past round 2) to draft picks (which is known as trust the process).
Life-long fan here. I loved the Process Sixers. The Sixers were unintentionally bad or intentionally mediocre for my entire life except for about 3 seasons (from 99-02). For the first time in my life they had a plan to do more than tread water. They never had a plan for building a team with AI. They just found a bunch of re-treads and hoped for the best. For heavens sake, they gave away Barkley when I was a little kid and almost gave away an AI in his prime for Eddie Jones because he couldn't get along with Larry Brown. They should have bottomed out in 06-07, but instead of trading AI for quality picks and young players, they got Andre Miller who played well-enough to keep them at the back-end of the lottery. The Process ended in 2016 when they hired Jerruh Colon-Jello. Their biggest mistake was maxing Harris instead of Butler. They received a mulligan on the Fultz trade-up and pick, but they haven't been able to overcome letting Butler go.
Bucks owner Wes Edens, after buying the Bucks in 2014: "We don't trust processes, we trust results." 2021: NBA Champion Milwaukee Bucks. #BucksIn6 #TrustTheResults
The Process: 1. Fire Hinkie 2. Get sent home by Kawhi 3. Hire Elton Brand 4. Choose Tobias over Jimmy 5. Horford trade 6. Ben Simmons passes on a wide open dunk 7. James Harden delivers his usual Playoff performances 8. Embiid keeps getting injured 9. Win a championship...?
Jahlil Okafor wasnt a bust , he averaged 17 in his rookie season , its because of his injuries that kept him from developing , now he is in nigeria dominating
I’ll always come back to this. Look at the egos, potentials, and careers ruined. All for the sake of Embiid lol. They didn’t have a single plan in place. They got their guy and shed everyone along the way.
it doesnt make sense how ben simmons was blamed in their playoff series loss to the hawks when he pass that dunk/layup which is worth 2 points and the team lost by more than 2 points
@@Prophet.1 perhaps the timing but they 1. Told Jimmy that They weren't going to pay him what Miami was 2. Cuz they wanted to keep both but 1a pay Tobias and 1b pay butler and once butler left. They went w original plan
Could have had Tatum 😒 Philadelphia has a history of messing sht up! They blew it with Barkley and Iverson when they had them 😒 They chose Tobias Harris over Jimmy Butler 😒
about a year later and philly is still getting eliminated before the conference finals and have fired doc rivers and there’s a chance harden walks for nothing
Yes, all those bad choices from 2016 onwards etc.etc. ... but it's just poetic justice done right that those process teams never got better results than 2012 roster. Disbanding it was dumb, and hiring incompetent hinkie was doubling down. What he did for years was an insult to sportmanship, and the 76ers just don't deserve to win exactly for that. From a 76ers supporter. (even if pretty much ex watcher of nba overall)
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Timeline of the Klay Thompson and the warriors contention
Celtics, From the big three, to the trade to BKLN, to getting Kyrie, and going to the finals
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Indiana pacers from paul George to tyrese haliburton
It's rough to see how low Philly went to to get the results that they have had since they started The Process. No finals appearance or even a conference finals.
So sad for them
The went to the 2019 conference finals but lost to the raptors because Kawhi hit the craziest game winner I’ve ever seen
@@BryceZehn semi-finals
@@jaywarvz that was second round
@@igreenzupz2199 you mean cathleen zehn
I love how their highlight of the 2020 season was Simmons making a 3-pointer. ;)
And the announcer screaming "he did it!" and sounding like a parent who's kid used the potty for the first time.
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The reasons they always had a bad season are:
Picking Busts
bad front office decision
Bad trades
And bad free agency signing
Indeed man
"That's a bad move"
like they had Jimmy and they preferred Harris... They could to get Tatum over Fultz as well... and to trust more in Horford
@@g.ferreira921 They were never getting Tatum. Boston would have kept the #1 pick if they knew Philly or LA wanted Tatum. Hindsight, Philly should have drafted Mitchell or Bam instead.
The only bust they drafted was jahil okafor. People forget simmons is an all star and all nba player, and fultz was destined to be good but he just dealt with injuries
drafting fultz was not the issue it was trading up to it, basically any team not named the celtics with a high pick wanted him he just forgot how to shoot, their problem was not resigning Jimmy
I felt that Fultz was extremely overrated in NCAA, I never saw more than a 16 ppg ceiling.
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I'd be curious to see Fultz play a full, injury free season. The kid is still only 24
Why did they talk Fultz over Tatum?
@@tmac731 undisputed 1 pick projection at the time, well actually it was him or Lonzo
Wow it's been a long winding road for the Sixers. Another awesome video.
Thanks for the support
Crazy how Sixers, Lakers, and Celtics had 1st,2nd,3rd overall picks back to back IN THAT ORDER in 2016 and 2017
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The Lakers managed to get it wrong both times, only to be bailed out by LBJ and AD because of geography
@@davidstring8301 Even though they didn't get the best player, Ingram and Ball aren't bad. They just became better players once they both left LA, but even before he was traded, Ingram was starting to warm up. Still, Lakers are definitely lucky they play in LA otherwise they would be an absolute disaster.
Best basketball page on YT
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Nice video again Jay you never disappointed with the videos
Thank you very much!
It's almost as though you need a team culture focused around strong leadership vs. just assuming players will come to save you to actually be champions.
Who would have imagined that?
True man
The Butler sign and trade (and even getting two wings in the first place) was the straw that broke the camels back. Don’t see why you’d EVER choose Richardson and Harris over JB. It put Ben in a position where his weaknesses wouldn’t be covered on the floor bc yes he distributes but he worked really well in the post with JB on the wing. Ben was always better on the break than in sets, especially when those sets weren’t running through him. Not somebody who’s gon touch the ball every play and create his own. Terrible personnel decisions overall that set them back years.
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Hinkie got screwed over when he was pushed out. The Process was radical but it was working. All that cap space. All those first round picks. All the young talent. I have no question he would've gunned after big name free agents with that cap room and probably could've been successful in doing so. Instead it all gets screwed up by Colangelo and Elton Brand. Now the Sixers are back in playoff mediocrity. The same place they were in prior to Hinkie's arrival.
Agree with you man
Facts. Hinkie hit on a lot in the second round and undrafted players too. I am not going to try to predict what he would have done had he still been there but I feel his vison would have been better than what is currently there. Its also messed up he got pushed out only to have his model of franchise building become acceptable a few years later.
Not that Brand has been great, but I think they were right to push Hinkie out.
Who knows if Okafor would have worked out in any circumstance, but part of the problem with Simmons and even Embiid to a lesser extent is they never had a coach and front office to push them to be leaders cause of the "Fuck it, we'll just get a high draft pick later on" attitude.
I feel like if Philly had the mindset of a front office like San Antonio, Toronto or Memphis, they are a borderline dynasty by now.
was hinke really a good talent evaluator? his draft history is very spotty at best for every Embiid you have multiple fultzs or jahlil okafor elfred payton or michael carter williams he got fired because he was bad at the draft and got lucky once
@@420bengalfan but fultz wasn't Hinkie. He also correctly moved on from MCW after 1 season. With Elfrid Payton he traded for a better player(Dario Saric) plus a 1st and second rd pick.
I will give that Jahil Okafor was a big miss. I feel they drafted him with the idea of trading him for more but he was acquired just as big men of his skill set saw their value diminish.
I love how you replied to all comment in this video. Rarely seen a youtuber did it
I appreciate everyone who takes their time to watch my vids. 😍😍😍
The Tobias Harris over Jimmy Butler thing did not give them wonder
Worst decision
"TOBIAS HARRIS OVER ME!?"
Winning takes time. Winning takes patience. Winning takes using players where they best fit. Winning takes developing players. Philadelphia 76ers followed none of that to waste the process.
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It hasn’t been wasted yet, but running out of time
The big problems of 76ers are: bad trades and bust picks. Just imagine what have could happen if they could draft Fox, Tatum or Mitchell instead of Fultz and re-signing Jimmy. The Process deserve to win the ring so he needs to get out of Philly
Agree with you man
But Thank God Jimmy Butler Join My Miami Heat. I Love Him, He Is My Favorite Miami Heat Player Ever. He Saved Us From Being Junked On.
But Hey, Josh Richardson Is Pretty Good Too, So I Think And Not Only Think, I Know That It Was A Fair Trade.
You forgot to add the Mikhail Bridges trade. Very bad move that I knew would set them back years & years. Can you imagine Maxey, Harden, Thybulle, Bridges & JoJo right now?! Omgsshhh!!!
@@cesarcanete3402 This would be the team. Simmons, Maxey (Fox or Mitchell), Bulter, Tatum, Embiid and sixty man Bridges 🔥🔥
Another awesome video by the great Jay Warvz, great job bruh
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The Warriors literally have a better Rebuild in the just 2 Years than the whole Sixers itself.
True man
They weren’t rebuilding their core players were out for long stretches with injuries. They were waiting for them all the get back together and then won another chip
retooling is different from rebuilding. The Warriors still had their pieces they were just damaged and needed repair. They let their young guys get experience and signed cheap vets that made differences on both ends of the court. They didn’t have to trade anyone essential besides Dlo for Wiggs.
The best TH-cam video I have ever seen!You are great!
Very much appreciated
Yessssssss thank you for this you know how long I have been waiting
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I would love a deep process review from 2010-14. An cover all those 6ers players that left the league cause they weren't good enough
Noted man
MCW over Giannis
Okafor over Booker
Fultz over Tatum
Simmons over Brown
Harris over Butler
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If they just got one of those right they could have been sooooo much better
@Kings Will Soon Rise Yeah, and Ben Simmons was a can't miss, generational talent that you had to pick at the time. Him & Ingram were can't miss prospects like Ja & Zion were in the 2019 draft. Personally, they should've went went with BI. I feel that BI & JoJo together would have a championship together now.
Simmons was an absolute gem of a talent, idk what happened to him
Another great video🔥
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Merci beaucoup, c'est enrichissant.
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Crazy how all their first round picks got injured before they even started playing 🤦🏾♂️
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@@jaywarvz tf is that supposed to mean
I miss Michael Carter- Williams he was my favorite rookie specially his first NBA game debut
True man
11:23 that trade will haunt the sixers forever.
Since then butler became the transcendent face of the Miami heat with 2 final appearances.
Indeed man. Dumb trade
This is like a curse for Philadelphia. No matter how much they effort, they are unavailable to reach the conference finals. Let's hope they don't waste more Embiid years soon. They need a good backcourt and a great shooter and defender.
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This aged well
@@fredy.l0789 Thanks.
Thanks man! 👍🏽🙏🏽
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Yessss I’ve been wanting this one
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Request: How the Pacers failed to win a title from the mid-1990s to 2005.
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I'm surprised they kept Embiid for so long while he was injured
They were trusting the process
Yessir I appreciate it 🤙🏼
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Nah like serious question at one point do we consider the process a failure?
They had multiple 1st round picks and only drafted 2 all nba performers so far with one them leaving the rest have been bust and haven’t even sniffed a conference final.
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I think it’s a failure because it’s been almost 10 years since the process has started and yet still no championship or even a finals appearance 🤷♂️
@@kabeerkhannn exactly and it not like the Sixer had bad teams either for some those runs towards the later part those were contending teams
I swear Trusting the Process is like watching a novella. I became curious after the Simmon fiasco and I kinda feel bad for the guy. Learning about the history and the mistakes and the struggle in rebuilding is impressive. Regarless of what anybody says the Process isn't done until Embiid and the Sixers wins a chip, for sure.
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dude waiting every day for ur vids :)
Thanks man
Lets go 🔥🔥
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Favorite part of these timeline videos is Stephen A Smith flip flopping and giving horrible takes
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the ben Simmons shirt got me laughing🤣
I need to get me one of them
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As a die hard Toronto Sports fan, the Philadelphia 76ers are similar to the Toronto Maple Leafs. They're literally the Toronto Maple Leafs of Philadelphia. From playoff series droughts (mostly because they can't make it past round 2) to draft picks (which is known as trust the process).
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Good Video My Guy 👍
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AYE LET’S GO! GO SIXERS!!
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They didn’t miss on Porzingis. He wanted to draft him but Porzingis didn’t wanna go to a team that’s goal was not to win
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Life-long fan here. I loved the Process Sixers. The Sixers were unintentionally bad or intentionally mediocre for my entire life except for about 3 seasons (from 99-02). For the first time in my life they had a plan to do more than tread water. They never had a plan for building a team with AI. They just found a bunch of re-treads and hoped for the best. For heavens sake, they gave away Barkley when I was a little kid and almost gave away an AI in his prime for Eddie Jones because he couldn't get along with Larry Brown. They should have bottomed out in 06-07, but instead of trading AI for quality picks and young players, they got Andre Miller who played well-enough to keep them at the back-end of the lottery.
The Process ended in 2016 when they hired Jerruh Colon-Jello. Their biggest mistake was maxing Harris instead of Butler. They received a mulligan on the Fultz trade-up and pick, but they haven't been able to overcome letting Butler go.
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Let’s go that was my idea
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If they haven’t drafted bust after bust they would’ve been a dynasty and there would be immediate draft reform
Indeed man
As a 76ers hater, that video hits like crack now that Harden wants out.
So tough
Crazy how the Sixers couldve had Embiid and Jokic both. It may not have worked, but damn that woulda been crazy
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Or Porzingis
First and love the vid idea
Thanks man
Finally trust the process die hard 76ers fan
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Bucks owner Wes Edens, after buying the Bucks in 2014: "We don't trust processes, we trust results."
2021: NBA Champion Milwaukee Bucks. #BucksIn6 #TrustTheResults
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There we go the Tanking team for the first pick
That's the process lol
Tho the rebuild was great its just really weird how they still having some hard time to get the process going
Yeah man
The Process:
1. Fire Hinkie
2. Get sent home by Kawhi
3. Hire Elton Brand
4. Choose Tobias over Jimmy
5. Horford trade
6. Ben Simmons passes on a wide open dunk
7. James Harden delivers his usual Playoff performances
8. Embiid keeps getting injured
9. Win a championship...?
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The Warriors "Process" only took two years and it lead them straight to their 4th title lol
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Crazy that they actually missed on a lot of “the process” draft picks
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Jahlil Okafor wasnt a bust , he averaged 17 in his rookie season , its because of his injuries that kept him from developing , now he is in nigeria dominating
Wow good for him
Trade proposal
Philadelphia receive: Marcus Morris + Robert Covington
Clippers receive: Tobias Harris + 2023 first round pick
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Elton brand is pretty good a pretty good GM.
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Philly gone be lookin for that ring for the next 20 years
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FINALLY!!
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I’ll always come back to this. Look at the egos, potentials, and careers ruined. All for the sake of Embiid lol. They didn’t have a single plan in place. They got their guy and shed everyone along the way.
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Eyy ❤️❤️❤️❤️
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The only picks that panned out for the Sixers for their team is basically Joel, Ben, Maxey and Thybulle.
Indeed man. The rest are busts
@Reginald Wilson picks not players. Draft picks that panned out.
Wait for next year bro
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it doesnt make sense how ben simmons was blamed in their playoff series loss to the hawks when he pass that dunk/layup which is worth 2 points and the team lost by more than 2 points
He became scapegoat unfortunately
funny how stephen a went from saying they were terrible to praising them
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Honestly a heartbreak in 2018-19 season…
So tough
“Tobias Harris over me?!” 😹
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Still can’t believe they traded up just to pass on Tatum
Great video. Only mistake / oversight is clearly stating how Sixers mgmt chose Tobias Harris over Jimmy Butler
Thanks for the info
Jimmy left before the Tobias signing. Actually they chose Ben over Jimmy.
@@Prophet.1 perhaps the timing but they 1. Told Jimmy that They weren't going to pay him what Miami was 2. Cuz they wanted to keep both but 1a pay Tobias and 1b pay butler and once butler left. They went w original plan
Could have had Tatum 😒 Philadelphia has a history of messing sht up! They blew it with Barkley and Iverson when they had them 😒 They chose Tobias Harris over Jimmy Butler 😒
So tough man
Crazy how he could be winning his second mvp after missing his first few years
Agree with you man
can’t get out of the second round to save their lives
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And it went to "Trash the Process" real quick.
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2018-2019 is the best chance to win the ring but kawhi made that shot.
Very unfortunate
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2019: Is Fultz the biggest No. 1 bust?
_Anthony Bennett enters the room_
Still not a Shaq timeline 😔 but I alaways look forward to your vids😃
I'll do it soon man. Thanks for the support
@@jaywarvz I will stop asking now thank you so much 😃
LeBron James timeline
about a year later and philly is still getting eliminated before the conference finals and have fired doc rivers and there’s a chance harden walks for nothing
Probably man
Hey man. Been subscribed since you had 9k subs. Could you please do Rajon Rondo? I would love to see it!
Thank you for the support always
I always ponder, how much longer can they trust?
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M. Fultz. B. Simmons. E. Turner. All top 5 picks
And wasted picks
Timeline Of Sixers & Nets 90' & 2000-2023 👊
Sure man
That statement made by Skip Bayless on Andrew Bynum, for several reasons, aged like spoiled milk.
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the talents those draft classes where they landed those top 3 picks, they could been title contenders if they picked the right ones
Indeed
Bro look at the trades they were making!
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Remember, if you feel useless,Ben Simmons wears a shooting sleeve.
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Could u do a Yao Ming Rockets timeline next?
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I still hate it when these “analysts” shit on “The Process” then praise it when they have a good season.
Bandwagons 😂😂😂
Yes, all those bad choices from 2016 onwards etc.etc. ... but it's just poetic justice done right that those process teams never got better results than 2012 roster. Disbanding it was dumb, and hiring incompetent hinkie was doubling down. What he did for years was an insult to sportmanship, and the 76ers just don't deserve to win exactly for that. From a 76ers supporter. (even if pretty much ex watcher of nba overall)
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What program do you use?
Powerdirector
@@jaywarvz thank you
Who would have thought that both Simmons and Fultz wasn't worth the time of day.
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hey jay warv can you do a rise and fall of anthony davis?
Already done
Joel’s gonna request a trade soon
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What’s the background music in this video? Also do a timeline about the rebuild of Cavaliers (2017-2022)
Behind my back by rage
As a sixers fan that Toronto shot was tough and then losing butler and reddick just to see butler make the finals then Atlanta then butler beat us
Very unfortunate
If anything Philly has proven "the process" does not work
Yeah man
"The showtime lakers" the rise and the fall
Sure
@@jaywarvz love you bro
After the the bubble season im pretty sure jimmy made mocked darly morey for choosing al tobias and simmons over him
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