@1:20:21 - Eyes go around, head is following the eyes, scratch of right eyebrow, eyebrows raised, all of these movements express a feeling of deep concern : The huge wasp is back in the house of Scott Rouse 🐝 🧐
I disagree the whole time that Scott equates them to the trailer fighting / volatility. Do you do that to other victims of abuse? He did call her names etc, but equate him to this being trailer volatility, nope. He was an abuse victim. Remember. Many of us have heard ALL THE AUDIO AVAILABLE. Including Australia. (She claims the Australia audio proves what he did. It does not. It has her admitting she hurt him and it has others protecting her from police for JD). Just an FYI.
Police. Remember the audio where she mocked him about telling the judge, jury and the world? We all know men do not come forward as easily when they are abused. They are not believed. Even with proof. They have to spend money in court to prove it. And even then society tends to still treat them as the abuser. The results of this case proves it with all those who still push AH as the victim of abuse and him as the abuser. Tsk, tsk, tsk Scott. ;)
What he lost.... He was not speaking of just money. It was reputation. Family. Friends. Etc. He has worked for decades and he has never been accused of such things. He wanted to die. To reach such depths.....
Any time he has physically hurt her has been accidental during her attacks on him. He speaks of it in audio. And he speaks of it on the stand. But he has never deliberately beaten her as she has claimed.
This woman wasn't done with him after the divorce. She had to ruin him. She had to ruin his career. She could have just been done with him. But she had to flatten him financially. She took full advantage of guilty because of accusation. She accused him and for Disney he was automatically guilty. He's fighting for his life and his 30 year career. Kudos to him for not allowing her to get away with lies. As a practical matter, she doesn't have 50 million dollars, but he needed a chance to fight for his vindication. Good for him. I hope he wins.
Strange how, when she accuses him of something, he loses work. But when he accuses her of something, she's still making movies. If it wasn't for double standards, Hollywood wouldn't have any standards.
Johnny needs his reputation back! He is the victim not her. Amber turd will torture him financially and emotionally for the rest of his live if he doesn’t protect himself in court right now. He is out of his comfort zone and was hoping she would back off but unfortunately she will never stop attacking him. Evil in my opinion. Johnny has already WON in the court of public opinion. Just because he is an alcoholic doesn’t mean he is abusive. Johnny should have called the cops and got a restraining order when his finger was lopped off and a lit 🔥 cigarette butted put in his face !!!!! It can’t be good to be amber turd from this trial forward. Live and learn you can’t treat people like this. Assult is unacceptable.
I think even if he loses the defamation case, he wins in the court of public opinion, he gets his side of the story out. the People can see he's been abused, and gained back any fans he lost in her lie. he'll go on to make more movies and maybe even one about his life married to her, one day.
It’s worth noting that his former partners have supported him. That’s pretty indicative, given his age and the fact that he’s been in long-term relationships. People who are abusers don’t just start at age 50.
The smile is his way of lessening the trauma. I did that a lot before I had a ton of emdr therapy. I still catch myself awkwardly doing it sometimes. It was my way of saying “it’s not a big deal” “I don’t care” “I’m fine, see?” It’s a way of disassociating from the pain, especially in front of your abuser.
@@khaosssssss1727 I can’t speak about anyone else’s trauma experience but with mine, the worst of my post-trauma period really brought out some very “dark humor” and a lot of self critical jokes.
There was a clip earlier that hit home hard, where a man said: a woman in fear would not defecate on her husbands side of the bed. I just hope any men who watch Johnny talk about how he has been abused, gives them the strength to speak up too if they are in the same situation.
A woman in fear would not do 90 percent of what she did. Especially recording him when he is angry about something else and standing right there. Let alone laugh and smirk at the end of it and continue with her sarcastic, demeaning, insulting behavior! That was a dead give away for me.
I was a military nurse for a long time, and an EMT. Depps describes, in a very common way, a recollection of an injury like he sustained. Many people will remember having gone through a traumatic injury, and are surprised they didn't feel pain right away. They first feel the warmth of the blood. I believe his smile at "looking at my bone" is also a common reaction. Many patients I've spoken with do the same smile because they remember the shock of seeing inside their body while their brain is saying, "that's not right!" Most people don't have exposure to blood, guts, and bones. It's not only a physical shock to see a piece of your body gone, but it's a mental shock. Love your vids!
Agreed, I accidentally chopped of my whole finger with a machete, didn't feel a thing, no blood to start with just went pale cold, and walked back a mile plus to camp and calmly asked for help to drive to hospital pain didn't start until much much later but nothing to the pain of physiotherapy after it was reattached to get movment
I was knifed in the stomach as a kid in a street fight. Even know when I tell the story I inevitably smile and I remember the physical details and not the fear at first. The warmth of the blood, the strange feeling of the knife almost popping in, the glare of the street lights reflecting of the damp asphalt, the crisp autumn air. There is a level of detachment and also trying to put people at ease.
Scott, I learned from being a DV survivor that the person is often too ashamed to contact the police. And for men it is even harder than it is for women.
He was a year behind me in junior high and high school and he was always very quiet, very, very gentle. The most often I remember seeing him, aside from when he played in a high school garage band,was sitting out behind the high school on a picnic bench playing his guitar all by himself. There is no way that the young man that I remember could have done any of these things.
@@saprenna Thank you. Why has ONE person (Amber) claimed he is violent and abusive and that ONE person has DV charges in HER past. It is a no brainer. She thrives on conflict and playing the tough thug standing up for herself . She is her own worst enemy.
That is lovely to know, thank you. It breaks my heart as we now know what he suffered at home, but that he has always been a gentle soul is exactly what I would have thought about him. I am so happy that he has been able to clear his name with this trial, be the case a loss or a win, he has proved who he is.
She’s a pariah amongst women. I’ve survived long term abuse and amazing support organizations helped me. She is not - from my experience and education - an abused woman. She’s terrifying and a threat but can not act like a victim. I and other women I know are NOT responding to what she’s doing or how she’s presenting herself. Johnny is for real abused - it resonates with my own and other women I know very deeply. What he’s doing takes an enormous amount of courage.
Absolutely agree 💯. She lost any hope of me believing her when she started making very direct eye contact the first day and then began playing mind games with her copying his wardrobe as of the second day. These are the exact opposite of someone who experienced abuse facing their supposed abuser. I'm speaking from personal experience and what I've learned from therapy for DV
I was abused too and all I see is an old guy who married someone basically half his age (probably to hold on to his lost youth) then has the nerve to blame all his issues on his deceased mom. An aging actor taking no personal responsibility whatsoever.
To me, that smile he does seems as if he's realizing how absurd everything was looking back on it. Almost like he can't believe he was in that situation. I've personally done the same kind of thing when something crazy happens and afterwards you're almost in disbelief at what just happened.
I think Johnny's laughter is him in disbelief. Disbelief at what happened to him in this marriage. Disbelief that anyone would think he would abuse a spouse or girlfriend. Disbelief that his career is being ruined by these lies. Disbelief that he has to appear in court in order to clear his name.
One thing I feel you have all missed is that anyone who was abused as a child learns very quickly to minimize their pain--to temper all 'complaints'. I feel his smiles are this mechanism at work. He smiles to dismiss his pain, his injuries, to laugh it off in case acknowledging it brings on more of the same abuse. It's a defensive reflex.
I don't think people have missed what you describe, they just don't know the name for it. I agree, it's a coping mechanism for him. His reactions and actions, even in verbal tapes submitted for evidence, his anger I'm even controlled. He tried not to deflect anything onto her and take it all himself. Amber is a true bipolar with psychotic tendency. If you watch other tapes of her being questioned you can she how smug and self righteous and indignant she is. This women seriously need medication and psychological help permanently. Until then, I really don't think the rest of us are safe around her. Thank you for your keen insight.
I worked in mental health for many years as a an advocate and also am a survivor of a horrible dv situation very akin to what he went through. Many victims in an effort to not break in front of people from the memories often smile like he does. It's a defensive mechanism I catch myself doing still nearly 30 years post trauma. It keeps me from falling right into the PTSD mind. One therapist told me it's a wedge we place between now and the then.
I'm a psychotherapist that works with victims and this is exactly it. Smile to cover the pain. It is a coping attempt to counteract the pain. People smile
I often do the same thing… And if or when I am recalling the incident to someone else, I find myself smiling but it’s because when I hear it out loud, I truly can’t believe that I actually experienced that. I realize how awful or how bizarre it sounds… And it makes me feel very uncomfortable. I feel like people will think I’m crazy because I lived it.
"I'm scared to death. I'm frightened and I don't know what to do. I'm confused and I want to go home." -Johnny Depp's message to his fans, May 11 2016. Then he smiles. It seems how he copes.
Mark Bowden should watch an old interview by Oprah. Johnny sounds exactly the same as he does in the courtroom. He's always spoken slowly, seems very thoughtful, takes his time getting his words out, etc.
I stand with Johnny 100%. Amber just breathes lies. You can’t believe her AT ALL !!!! I will never watch anything she stars in. I pray Johnny recover ms all.
Having been abused emotionally and physically its shocking to see yourself in these relationships ! Especially when you believe youre a strong independent person…!
All I see is an old guy who married someone basically half his age (probably to hold on to his lost youth) then has the nerve to blame all his issues on his deceased mom. An aging actor taking no personal responsibility whatsoever.
@@MM-qp4pd 100% agreed what a waste. It is truly disturbing to see all of these people defend a rich, spoiled actor that they do not know. Truth is you never know someone until you live with them. I am not defending anyone. Bringing the second law suit after losing the first is just desperate. He chose to sue and drag this out.
Fascinating. One thing I think the panel misses in Depp's occasional smile (when he relates certain disturbing things) is a sort of tragic irony; a rueful expression, which is darkly comedic. I get that.
Agreed. My sister's reaction to bad events is laughter. If she sees a jump scare for example she would get shocked and then start laughing. The worst it is the more she laughs. At one time she was swimming and her leg cramped and she started drowning. She was laughing so hard that when in the seconds her head would pop out of the water she couldn't breathe. My aunt thought she was playing and was laughing with her, until someone pointed out that she was drowning. Thankfully she got out safely.
Scott, let me tell you why Depp did not call the cops. When you are accustomed to yelling, violence & mental abuse for a long period of time, you learn to live with it & you don't call the cops. You also learn you keep it in the family. My intuition: She found out how easy he was to manipulate & decided then & there she was going take him for all she could, way back when. Love ya
A prime example of why it’s so important to get out of a toxic relationship as soon as you see a picture forming… it can take a while, but once you see it, leave! Their respect for you has long departed before you have.
And yet even professional mental health experts all agree you CANNOT make a diagnosis without spending significant time with a patient in a clinical setting- your powers are amazing!
As a retired psych RN, who worked adolescent psychiatric units, adult/addictions, state long term hospitalizations, and 2 prison psych units, I've seen many people like Ms Heard. I'm so glad to hear you explain so much to the public,who Probably don't know or see what's really going on. I can't diagnose them but I'm thinking there's more deception from her than from him. And, any man who maintained years long relationships, and his exes have nothing bad to say about him, would most likely change as drastically as she claimed. Second,she would most likely split immediately after the first " event of aggression" where are the hospital/Er reports?? Police reports?? , Injuries from naked feet walking on broken glass?. I'm having a harder and harder time believing her.
TYPO ALERT. HE WOULD NOT, NOT change suddenly.. she inadvertantly admits she got physical several times., To me, she goaded him multiple times trying to get him to break and get physical. She tried to use the" invited slap" on him,and left too many trails in her lies that could be question ed. Too histrionic in her" breakup", with no tears, no dry mouth, needing to take sips of water,. No runny nose and Kleenex. ALSO,she dabbed her hanky BETWEEN her eyes, not wiping eyes or nose. Too much INCONGRUENT behavior 🙁🤔 too disturbing. I've seen a lot of assault victims and PTSD. She doesn't seem to fit. .
Now pretend that you are a woman. I have been fysically abused and told NOBODY. Out of shame. I could have won a court case if I had taken pictures. Instead I wore long sleeves.
My career was very similar to yours and I completely agree with your assessment of their situation. I started watching the trial with an open mind. Over the course of many days and many, many hours, this has come into sharper focus. I think bringing this to trial was basically the best option for JD.
As for Johnny smiling, the first time I went to a therapist and told him about painful parts of my life, he said "Do you realize you are smiling?" I said that's what my family expects me to do. It's just a way of coping with a bad situation. It's also a way of talking to other people who have never been through trauma.
It's also pointing out how totally crazy and absurd something is. It's so crazy it's funny. Being able to laugh in the face of danger is a good coping mechanism as it stops you from just locking up from the situation. He also did the same thing in the "poo in the bed" part. He said he laughed because it was just so extremely disgusting and unexpected.
@@katwebbxo I know many ppl who smile or with women giggle about the most insane situations. I use to question them asking how can you smile or laugh about something so serious or crazy. I now understand that is their way of coping
Same. Often I'm smiling ad I tell the most foul behaviors I experienced with my mother & exhusband (both abusive, rageful people). I was embarrassed for them, embarrassed that I went thru it, people pleasing not to get more abuse... she never once pointed it out; I noticed it. That smile quickly melted into anger and crying...
Can you please talk about Alejandro vaping and driving with no seatbelt on in the court room and the judges face afterwards that was absolute comedy gold 🤣👌
As a woman who has escaped an abusive relationship, the breakdown Johnny describes is the madness you get driven to by the constant rollercoaster of living with an abuser. We should stand behind JD as we do for all the women who are abused by their male partners.
It is such a shame that as a society we still haven’t evolved enough to take female on male domestic violence seriously. Having someone with the kind of reach that JD has might just turn things around. I’m hopeful.
But they both were chaotic with each other. Heard doubled down by going public and playing wounded fawn when she was an aggressor. That's what's wrong here. She pretended she was an abused woman. She and Johnny were fire and intense in their relationship and they both should have walked away from the relationship without going public with a dog whistle. Johnny did that. Amber didn't. But I don't think it makes Johnny a poster child for abuse. Dorothy Stratten was abused. These two abused each other.
@@tinakochan7360 Red Flag? Of extreme embarrassment? Or more like a cautionary tale about age-inappropriate relationships? Sure, but as a generalization. There may be a small percentage of relationships with huge age disparities which are genuine. For the most part though, they do seem like trophy-wives and pay-daddys, whether the participants are admitting it to themselves, or not. The calculated actions of AH are simply amazing though.
@@neryskkiran1820 first you are focusing to much on age about this case. And this is not a case based on smarts of morality. And this sh*t happens and has happened in Hollywood for decades. Real world too but.... Are you giving her some kind of cred ??? Cause that would be f**ked up !!! Bad decisions can be made anytime but gives no one a pass to be evil to another person
You four have helped me more then I can express. I was raised in a family where I had to walk on egg shells. Alot, of abuse. I was born in the 60's and you didn't talk / seek help for mental illness. You guys have explained but not made excuses for the abuser. Thank you for helping me release anger/pain and give forgiveness to my mother. Not so much for her but for the child afraid and on guard always. I know this doesn't pertain to Johnny Depp/ Heard. But, Heard's behavior does remind me of my mom. 🕊️
I lost my daughter 3 months ago.. She passed unexpectedly 🙏 She was a major Depp fan as she was an artist also. This is compelling for me ! Thank you guys so much 🙏🙏
Deeply sorry for your unfathomable loss. And glad these four brilliant minds could provide relief. Their insights are mind boggling. And on a gut level, I always agree. I also find myself crying for your loss. May you find comfort in those who love you and others who understand. This panel seems to understand just about everything. ❤
I don't think it's kosher to keep portraying Johnny Depp as an actor regarding his testimony. Have you ever lived with a borderline personality/hysteric personality. She wants to destroy him. I hope she loses and Johnny Depp wins. I hope he is able to be set free from his hurts.
I believe Depp. I think Amber is a vicious person who was trying to control him. I also believe that bc he experienced this crazy behavior in his upbringing (his mother was abusive and very unpredictable, erractic) that he tolerated the abuse in his relationship until he couldn't anymore. I hope he heals from this. My heart goes out to him 💙
I love that Amber totally exposed and ruined herself in the process of trying to ruin Johnny Depps life. A lot of what Johnny did was in part a reaction to being in a abusive relationship.
I was abused too and all I see is an old guy who married someone basically half his age (probably to hold on to his lost youth) then has the nerve to blame all his issues on his deceased mom. An aging actor taking no personal responsibility whatsoever.
what's also happening with him is that he has been gaslighted for a long time, so when he is speaking he is questioning if his reality is real. He was made to feel crazy when he would speak out (to her) so he is not sure of his own declarations as he hears himself out loud.
Yes! I definitely agree with you, I specially after hearing a lot of the audio of their convos during trial. I hope she is fully cancelled after this. I feel so bad for her child that she only had to get sympathy.
I think Valerie Bertinelli said it well... "Good Acting isn't lying. It's finding the truth of a character. Bad acting is when you can't find the truth and so you fake it." I believe he went through straight hell, I totally believe him.
I hope Johnny's team sneaks that into final arguments. That is what is speaking to me here and with the whole Evan Rachel Wood/Marilyn Manson thing. Great comment! Valerie Bertinelli is a classic act!
Show me the body language expert who thinks Johnny is lying and Amber is telling the truth. I haven't found one and I've been watching videos all afternoon.
The only thing I disagree with is that I don’t like to watch peoples worlds fall apart.. I watch because I want to have hope in human kind to right these wrongs. I’m team Johnny. She has destroyed him. I’m not stupid enough to think they didn’t both have a role in this toxic situation but he did not deserve to be destroyed.
I see Amber as the abuser, and Johnny just defending himself the only way he knew how and that's what he did as a child. He walks away, taking himself out of the environment. That's self defence on his part!
I can really relate to the way Depp tells the story. When you’re not an aggressive person and you’re confronted with a crazy borderliner, you can’t believe people act that way. You’ve no idea what’s going on and why somebody would act that way. Like when you deal with a narcissist, you can’t believe somebody can be that manipulative. Why would you act that way? It doesn’t make any sense to a normal person. It’s like you’re in a parallel universe when you deal with narcissist and borderliners. They thrive on conflict. It’s maddening.
Totally agree. I’ve been in a relationship where at times I was so baffled, thinking, I must be crazy. I must be really off here. Until I finally learned I wasn’t the crazy one. It is really shocking and confusing to be with someone like that
I do not condone nor support any of Amber’s allegations, behavior, or attempts at higher social status using the ACLU and Me Too movement to further her reputation using false allegations; if Hollywood could strip her “status” I would be the first to sign the petition. I’m horrified that she has been labeled BPD because she is NOT indicative of us all. That said… As someone with BPD I can understand why you’d say that, however I’d like to impress upon people that for BPD’s there is a struggle between, a lack of personal identity, a constant fear of abandonment and the conflicts that arise out of that fear. People with BPD have EXTREME emotions and can range from utter rage to pure bliss in a matter of hours. The conflict arises when we feel like we’re about to be abandoned (justifiably or not) and our emotions escalate to extreme in .06 seconds. The person witnessing the extreme emotions, having no idea how to respond, typically respond in triggering ways that in turn escalates the rage. (for example, leaving) That’s where the conflict arises. Living with this disorder for so many years I have been able to “roadmap” these issues and offer people close to me various ways of de-escalating or diffusing or otherwise reacting in ways that allows us to move from rage back into bliss without damaging either’s “relationship rights”. I hate conflict, avoid it at all cost. However, if conflict arises I do have the wherewithal to mind my manners and not engage in any type of abusive behavior verbal, physical or otherwise. Please be mindful to remember people with BPD are not worse than anyone else they just need special accommodation and understanding. Amber’s behavior clearly is unacceptable, wholly unjustified and completely disgusting but I have to believe in my heart of hearts it’s because she never took the time, nor did her family take the time to diagnose her and encourage her to get the therapy she needs earlier in life, thus it’s easier to raise good children than fix broken adults. ❣️ ❤️ If you ever want to know why someone is acting a certain way, take the time to ask them. ❤️
@@susanb.3363 what’s the first thing you do when you go to a foreign country? Either get a pocket translator or find a local to show you the ways. The point is, you can learn how to have happy relationships with people with BPD, you just have to be willing to give it some effort, similar to building a wheelchair ramp for someone who recently lost use of their legs, except you build a knowledge base of coping skills instead of a physical ramp. 💗
Right?!? And that chick sounds sloshed in most of the audio recordings. She sounds drunk off her ass slurring her words. Ridiculous. Calling the kettle black. SMH 🤦🏻♀️
Everything he says matches up very well with the audio we hear, whereas in none of the audio does she sound like the weak victim she wants us to believe she is. I have been through this myself , in my relationship with my wife, she is a cluster B personality and the few times I have reacted to the abuse it was reactive when you can’t take it anymore and can’t get away. Everything is so similar, I am so glad this is coming out and just hope the jury sees the truth.
As a clinician I have to say that slow, careful, delayed stumbling responses are very indicative of him being a recent victim of domestic abuse. People often confuse processing disorders & PTSD trauma related communication problems for "other things." I found his speech & associated behavior to be genuine & natural. With that being said, he was using an appropriate amount of caution for the words he used, per his setting & consequence.
Was very abused throughout childhood, married another=violent abuser, (became Christian @22), then married a controller (who wasn’t in the beginning-though looking back, signs were there). He’s old now, and after many years trying to (him trying) yo control his control, I, find myself avoiding ALL and any confrontation by behaving exactly the same. Keep opinions as my own to avoid any conflict, all is verbal/not physical, but finding it has taken a weird toll on me. An old lady now, and I still down know how or when I could have corrected course. (To gain my own control over my life back.) terrible. I always thought I wasn’t a victim, and moved through this life ‘acting’, but end facts are there. I hope he gets a good grip on his life, and gets as far away from that thing as possible.
Absolutely agree. As much as I hate to admit this I've been a victim & have been on the other end, I'd like to think I wasn't aaasss bad. None of us walk in another persons shoes. In Love and War Love is a most splendidlishish.... thing And being a victim... is war War with yourself if you don't stand for yourself! . After 7 years I can stand up for myself and have splendishish too! Domestic violence... I have no words than can give it an excuse...
I wanted to add that when I was 27 I had a waterskiing accident and my thumb was cut off by a boat propeller. Johnny’s description of a traumatic amputation is spot on- all the way from no pain at the moment of amputation to shock when one sees the bone protruding from the injury is indicative of a sharp object suddenly cutting of the digit. This doesn’t happen on a crush injury or other type of digit loss. Johnny being initially unaware he lost his fingertip would be consistent also. As a person who’s experienced the same thing AND being a registered nurse, I have to say this is a shock response and also Johnny suffered significantly as the hand has more nerves than any other part of the body. In addition his MRSA infection could have become so serious he could have lost his hand or arm - or possibly ended up in ICU with a potentially fatal septic shock from MRSA. So Amber could have been prosecuted for a serious crime had Johnny wanted to go after her for this when it happened.
I had a very deep wound in my leg behind my knee. I didn't know I was hurt at first until I saw the blood. It severed nerves I never felt anything until the disinfectant was applied.
My daughter had her leg taken off by a drunk hit and run driver. The only way we can deal with the trauma is to joke. It’s gallows humour. We can’t let the guy who did this win by making us bitter and hateful.
Greg, heard a commentator w ur interview on Newsmax ask how the judge could allow Depp to wear "sunglasses" in courtroom. He has monocular vision, legally blind in left eye as is my son. With 2D vision, looking at bright screens causes headaches & frequent floaties among a plethora of other things many who see w only 1 eye, have. The necessity to protect remaining seeing eye is imperative so good idea to always have some lens in any case, shaded outside & when reading quite necessary. Also, may require bifocals or assistance w vision in seeing eye. Nonetheless, his need to wear tinted lenses is something 99% or more monocular people are very familiar with. FYI.
Absolutely! I was diagnosed with Anosometropia (Amblyopic type) when I was 3 years old. I was very lucky to have had such early, high quality intervention…yet have still struggled with issues due to the condition throughout my adulthood. Photophobia (medical term for extreme sensitivity to bright lighting) has been an ongoing problem. I was diagnosed with Chronic Migraine years ago, and specifically, FL-41 tinted lenses are often deemed as being medically necessary for many fellow Migraineurs I know in various situations. I did not think twice about his use of tinted glasses in Court as I noted he was putting them on whilst looking directly at a bright electronic screen in front of him and removing them after viewing the screen. I myself have several different tools to help with Photophobia/preventing Migraine & Eyestrain from screens emitting bright/blue light. The Court is supposed to uphold these types of medically necessary accommodations.
Johnny depp always had rings on. Her face would have been badly beaten to a pulp the way she says it happened, she had nothing but botox bruises. The end. Johnny is truth.
Not saying Johnny is a saint and might've done SOME physical violence, but the ratio between how many recordings she has, aka she is tech-savvy enough for that, and how many photos she's got showing proof of her abuse, is really suspicious to me. At worst that points out the level of abuse he has done was nowhere near to what she claims.
Johnny spoke truth when he said "I've already lost win or lose this case" folks have Unfortunately formed an opinion. Tragically it will always follow him. AH is an evil vindictive person. I do pray he wins!
Johnny Depp feels ridiculous to be in this awkward position on regard to domestic violence towards Amber Heard. He is totally innocent. She is a vindictive, jealous woman. I've experienced domestic violence. I am 66 years old and seen a lot of life. This man is INCREDIBLE. He is innocent!!
I think he looks like he's going through 2nd hand embarrassment for her because she is trying so damn hard to convince everyone of her lies she a abused him again in her testimony she really should be ashamed of her self
Being a DV survivor this made me very sad. You don't forget these largest moments. He is not lying at all. After 40 years I could tell you every second of being held at gunpoint for several hours to keep me from leaving. I feel this pain. He finally passed out and I lived in my car for a couple days. I was 21. At 64 now, it's fresh in my mind
I was married to an abusive alcoholic man for 7 yrs unable to leave..he didn't allow me to work but I could go to college part time..i had nowhere to go with my 2 little girls..finally after 7 yrs of horrendous abuse (broken bones etc) I took my girls and left (6 months before graduating RN college)..He wouldve killed me for sure had I stayed..
I totally agree you do not forget the largest moments. I too am a DV survivor and a survivor of SA. It has been 23 years since the DV and 41 years since the SA and still at age 65 I remember every detail of both.
Great talk guys! side note: I hate it when men say things like..."you sound like you're in love with him" It's kind of male training to reign in heartfelt ideas and feelings. As if it's something to be ashamed of somehow to admire someone's awesome talents, whether they be a man or a women. It's childish.
Johnny looks better today than he's looked in years. Amber sucked the life out of him and he looked so gaunt, so drained. Now he looks alive and gorgeous again. He has cheekbones to die for! It was sad to watch his physical decline and emotional decline during his time with Amber and during the aftermath. He looks healthy, dignified and self-confident again...and handsome!
I’m not a big drinker and I don’t do drugs ….but after hearing all J.D.’s recounting of what he had to endure with her constantly RIDING HIM about everything -with no way out, no escape, it’s not hard to understand him returning to the bottle.
People on social media are trying to discredit him for being a drug/drink guy, But People use drugs and drink a lot when they are trying to numb something out so surely its the opposite, Its ridiculous. I personally suffered as a drink abuser and it was because I was being mentally abused by an Ex GF i know the reasons why from personal experience This whole situation is absolutely tragic im with JD 100%
@@ryrkra8096 He's not on trial for substance abuse, in fact he is very transparent about his drinking and drugging. Drinking to numb out, is what JD goes to when he has had enough or can't deal with anymore. Through it all, when he goes there, it seems he just wants to get away from the trauma inflicted by Amber H. It appears that she can't just leave him be.. heavens. Provoking him at every angle...Jeez . Godspeed JD
Utter legend!! Getting asked about what kind of makeup Amber was wearing was hilarious!! I don't think Alejandro is someone to notice that kind of detail... most men don't hahaha!! Johnny couldn't stop laughing, it was a light moment amongst all the heaviness.
Johnny’s sister has a similar smile at seemingly-odd moments in her testimony. They were both treated horribly by their mother, and I suspect the smile has something to do with that-a face they put on, an adaptation to the pain. You four make a wonderful panel, and I particularly like the diversity of experience and knowledge that Mark adds. Terrific insights!
My father did the same thing. They smile because it’s just so ridiculous and unbelievable that it’s almost comical to them. Some people have a sarcasm about them like that. Just like people that laugh if they see someone fall and it’s not funny but they have instinct to laugh.
Laura Hammond clearly you belong in the gang of the iracional dogs. SINCERELY after Your comments . Steak to the animal kingdom together with the 22 👍athore canines .
I was abused too and all I see is an old guy who married someone basically half his age (probably to hold on to his lost youth) then has the nerve to blame all his issues on his deceased mom. An aging actor taking no personal responsibility whatsoever.
@@halcyon2017 of course is does. Most of us have experienced childhood trauma including me but there comes a time when you need to stop acting like a victim. Especially if you're a 50 something old dude with all the privileges in the world. Amber is basically his daughters age with obviously less experience
I've been in Depp's situation, when I would talk about situations with my ex that were abusive, I would do the smirk he does, or laugh as a way to minimize and downplay how horrendous what happened actually was. It came from a place of shame and embarrassment to talk about that treatment out loud.
No one is ever able to describe the real horror and helplessness of abuse. The abuse is numbingly loud, emotionally and physically painful, contemptuously dismissive, fearfully invasive, etc. To tell the story, you tell some details, but no one understands 1) the lead up to the abuse, 2) the accusations the abuser uses as justification for the abuse that is coming, 3) the out of control out-of-body response to being abused, 4) the fear of acknowledging and feeling the physical pain because the abuse may start again in you are to hurt, and 5) the forced emotional dampening required to not remind the abuser of what he/she did, and 6) the inability to find a safe place to suffer. Telling people about abuse also can never convey the sound of abuse. The hits, the yelling, the painful responses, the whimpers stifling the sound, the sound of a body hitting walls and furniture and the floor and the items on the tables, etc. The thing the movie "The Burning Bed" did right was the sounds of abuse. Don't watch the TV. Just listen.
@@TanukiOfficial In this case we do actually hear the horrifying abuse that he was subject to , from the tapes and also from the witnesses . We also hear him trying to reduce and avoid . He gives a little grin in self deprecation . I do that to make light of stressful situations.
I remember when this come out, it was really upsetting and triggering, as a man who's been abused by a woman. It wasn't about his presumed guilt/innocence, it was the many claims that a man could never be abused by a woman, and the way people tried to base these claims into stuff like biological essentialism.
All of this is insane but the part that's really upsetting is that she would use what he told her about his childhood trauma against him in arguments. What a betrayal. And a good portion of all this happened while his mother (his abuser) was sick and dying. The fact that he was able to come to terms with his feelings towards his mother while also going through all this is truly remarkable. He is one Hell of a man
Anti-social personalities come across as if they are your absolute soul mate, and people will bare their souls to them, just to have the information used against them at the most opportune moment.
I watched a friend of mine do the same thing as Amber is doing to Johnny. My friends husband had trouble talking about the way he was abused. I saw her throw a bottle at him and cut his head wide open then she blamed him. I finally had enough and called the police on her without her knowing. Police came and they finally arrested her. Our friendship ended because she was so abusive and would lie about it. Men can be abused. My friend so reminds me of Amber. So Mark I really disagree with you.
A guy who had been badly physically and emotionally abused by his (bigger and stronger) wife told me once that people don't realise how hard it is to be a male abuse victim, he said that women and children are rightfully supported, protected and defended when it comes to light that they have been mistreated but his experience was a complete lack of sympathy. He was told to "Grow a pair" or "Be a man" (he WAS a man, a gentle man who was taught to never hit a woman, even in retaliation). He was treated with scorn and derision and had absolutely no legal recourse. Of course he got out (eventually) and of course he had to pay a large proportion of his earnings over to his abuser each month. Sometimes we need to open our eyes to the fact that the preconceived ideas we have aren't always right.
My brother also had trouble telling anyone he was being abused. After suffering over 2 years of non-stop abuse from his alcoholic wife, he came very close to telling me about his situation one night in a tearful phone call. But after a lot of hesitation all he could say was that they were “having trouble” and asked me how he could fix it. Then 6 mos later, she almost killied him one night with a hammer, and he had to call 911 to save his life. Later he told me he hesitated even then because he knew that 911 call would enrage her even more, set into motion a chain of legal events, and make everything he was going through public. And it did. Her DV trial is this summer. So JD not calling the police and trying to handle the AH situation privately is understandable from this perspective.
@@rachealfaucher4520 He tried, but she managed to delay a property settlement, and he died 2 weeks after the divorce hearing (before the divorce became final).
There are so many women out there that DO get sexually and/or physically abused by their male partner. And this woman wants to accuse, and destroy the reputation of, someone SHE abused!!!! I think this woman, I use the term loosely, is vile. What's good for the goose is good for the gander - she deserves jail time for being abusive.
I was deeply disturbed by the way Amber Heard looked at Johnny Depp. She reminded me of how a Predator looks at its Prey. This feels much more than Hatred. She wants to completely annihilate him
I didn't get an authentic holding back crying feeling from her at all. I got an "I need to look sad and not laugh so I'm going to think of my childhood dog that died" feeling from her. Day one I told my bff that Amber looked like she was trying to hide a smirk and not laugh. It was so unsurprising seeing her actually smile at one point when she forgot to keep the "I'm devastated and sad" look going.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 She can't do it. Poor thing, even if her family dog died. She is trying to think about everyone refusing to watch Aquaman. I was going to but.... never mind, I will not. She can't be an actress, she has no REAL feelings.
Worked in DV for ten years and her body language is not consistent with what I would normally observe in DV victims. Most DV victims can't even stand to be in the same room let alone stare down their alleged abuser. Jonny Depp seems to avoid her eye contact from the footage I have seen. It truly disgusting if what I suspect is true about her allegations as this is not only a slight on Johnny Depp but all victims of DV.
I totally agree! As a survivor of DV myself, I could not fathom staring at my abuser that way. In fact, I never even considered taking him to court for his treatment of me, bc it makes my skin crawl just to imagine having to be anywhere near him again. I once was working in a restaurant and his doppelganger came in to eat and it caused me so much fear and panic that I was shaking the entire time he was there, even though I knew it wasnt my abuser, just another man who looked like him. My brain was saying "it's okay, it's not him, just a random customer " and my heart and whole body was screaming at me to run out of the restaurant and get as far away as possible. Seeing the way Heard can just stare at Depp and have no fear response and almost unchanging expressions, really convinced me that there is no way he abused her. Plus the fact that in recordings of them she calls him names and says all sorts of instigative things. When I was with my ex, there was no way in hell I would ever say something that could cause him to be upset. Never ever ever. No way would I want to start a fight with him if it was avoidable. It's so clear to me she was the abusive one in this relationship.
Classical DV survivor through hell & back & yrs ago when I heard about this I instantly bonded w/Johnny Depp & later was shocked how things went in the UK, foremost why all these DV groups & DV advocates didn't see through AH... are they that easy blinded by potential donations?
@@aysegulapaydner unfortunately some get blinded and think men don't suffer as DV victims. When I was in the job and had male victims I couldn't get them support anywhere as DV support agencies were geared to supporting women because majority times its females was their response. I beg to differ these days I think male victims are well and truly under reported due to stigma, cultural expectations and lack of resources for them.
In cases of women DV on men the woman gets the TRO 1st which immediately classifies the other party the abuser. He cannot get any resources as the abuser. And people do treat you weird, different, and are. wairy of the man. Lower economic status gives these manipulative type women free access to legal help, and the "Women helping Women" organizations write TROs in abundance to hype their numbers for more money in grants from government. After 2 TROs (all full of lies and untruths) you would think that judges would put a stop to a 3rd, 4th, and now a 5th all in 8 years time for a person/man I write court motions for.. These woman use the system to punish, manipulate, torture, alienate the children, and become relieved of financial responsibility through the men they trap. Some unspoken law, or a real law that you have to believe the abuse victim, and take them at their word with no evidence. Makes me think of Gabriel Fernandez. Sad ...Something is very lacking in our society. Johnny Depp is making history for men, and at the same time shaming the system we live in. We can do better.
My husband talks like Johnny Depp but when words comes out from his mouth, very intelligent answer with a bombshell. Those are men that they used their mind rather than their mouth. Hurray fir JD! I pray that he will win. He is a drug addict but not a domestic violence guy.
Kudos to the Behavior Panel for telling it like it is. She is a malignant narcissist. Thanks to Greg, Scott, Mark and Chase for being respectful to Mr.Depp.
The MAN, who is just Johnny, has every right to say that “He Lost Nothing Less Than Everything!” As he has lost his own sense of self, his life’s Work that are taking over 40 decades of Hard Work 😓 & time from his family!
The only person JD abused/hurt was HIMSELF! Johnny looks a broken man up there. My heart goes out to him. He's such a witty, funny, beautiful man. Imo he's won for just telling his truth to the public. It's a vulnerable and fragile topic to speak out about. This may help other men who are in a volatile relationship. Much love and respect to him. 💯👏💜
The very measured, careful word choosing is a trait I've noticed in other abuse victims. When you are dealing with a disordered/high conflict/ abusive person, they will often be 'triggered' by certain words or phrases, using the 'incorrect' term or word can send them off into a tirade. So the person who is trying not to set off their abuser will measure words very carefully, keep the tone neutral and soft, and do everything they can to sound calm and soothing, nonconfrontational. The slips into saying 'you are getting hit'...he's depersonalizing in order to protect himself and his abuser, turning it into a third person recital of events rather than making it about what was done to him, what she did to him, because he knows that would be triggering to her, to admit to himself and to her that he felt abused. Would send her into another storm of abuse, or would be admitting to himself the shameful and 'unmanly' fact of being beaten by a woman. Y'all are dead-on about the smile. It's not duper's delight, it's not 'funny' it's a rictus, and the smile when asked if he had ever sexually assaulted her hurts him as deeply as every other incident that he responded to with the rictus-- recounting physical abuse, loss of career, loss of public approval/admiration, loss of reputation.
Amber's a disgrace to actual victims of domestic violence. I am a former victim, it's hard to get through each day fearing what will set your abuser iff and here she is lying and calling herself a victim when she was the abuser all along. I hate that she included herself in our "camp".
In her UK deposition she calls victims of DV “doormats”. When I heard her say this, I was furious! Then, she tells Savannah Guthrie she wants to be the voice for DV victims while really thinking they are doormats!!! What a disgusting hypocrite!
@@LolaClo she's a psychotic POS. Proudly, I can say that people like Johnny and myself are no longer "doormats", we're free of that physical and emotional pain.
Totally know what you mean Thunder, divorced my abuser but yes I remember that feeling walking on egg shells never knowing whats going to set him off next
Something that's interesting to me. She has recordings of him being violent with cabinets, recordings of her admitting to hitting him, recordings of her calling him a coward because he always walks away (seems strange for an abused person). But no recordings of her accusing him of hitting her or being violent towards her or any of the other allegations she's made, let alone him admitting it? At least from what I've heard.
Yes and that’s because as BPD and narcissistic personalities do, they are so hyper focused on self and their own POV to the point that they become oblivious to the obvious truth outside themselves (what we see as truth). They baffle themselves with their own Bull💩 and still think they have a chance to win any argument regardless the evidence of truth. This entire lawsuit has only highlighted the terrible person that she really is. She’s not a terrible person because she has a personality disorder, she’s terrible person because she has shown zero desire to at least try to become a better person. She gets kicks off hurting people and getting away with it.
There’s a video on TH-cam of Amber on a talk show. She unequivocally states she HAS donated $7 million to two charities. States dramatically “I wanted nothing.” This is going to come back to haunt her now that the truth of the ‘donations’ has come out.
Neither of them are saint's, but he is telling the truth. She should be ashamed of the enormous danger and possible death that she has caused real victim's. She was not the victim of abuse. She is a narcissist that could not control this person. Thank God they split! Thank God they both are still alive. If he was the monster that she portrayed him to be, the verbal abuse alone that she constantly barated him with would have caused him to physically hurt her bad. The kind of damage her "bruise kit" could not cover. Like broken bones. Not to mention the physical abuse that she did to him. She set him up so many times. He is the victim.
I work with victims of abuse. I’m gutted at the damage she has done for her own selfish ends. There are social media sites for victims of abuse where survivors are still believing her and fearful ‘the abuser’ took her back to court. This could silence genuine victims from accessing support and justice. She’s set the cause back decades.
I can confirm some of us were born with what I call the inappropriate smile syndrome. We smile when we're nervous, afraid, sad, angry... (Everyone knows to run the other way if I'm made and start smiling.) We aren't happy, amused, enjoying the situation, etc... we simply cannot stop it. I wish I could force myself not to do it.
@Heather Harris, It might be nervous laughter. It seems to me it's more like he almost can't believe what he's saying because it's so bizarre, he can't believe this is his life.
I think if there's a disconnect between the panel and some of the people commenting, it's that some of us have been through abuse, be it in childhood, or in a relationship, and have had to deal with the gaslighting, the breakdown of our self-esteem, the humiliation, the fear, and ultimately the knowledge that there are people who would not believe us, who didn't believe us, who bought the abuser's stories about us, and the pain and frustration one feels having dealt with life ruining abuse done in the shadows and coming out of it only to find that some people are judging you based on your abuser's words. It feels like hell, it feels like reality is out of step with your life, it's frustrating, etc. Now, that does not mean that everyone who believes any specific accuser or accused is right on the facts, because we weren't actually there, but it does mean that when people miss possible interpretations of the emotions behind reactions that we've also experienced, it can feel almost personally insulting. Personally, I do that "laughing/smiling to myself" thing when I'm confronted by this level of dissonance. Also, I happened to be abused at both 13 and 16, and never once called the police, nor did I tell anyone about it for years, and 30 years later I still hate talking about it. I can't imagine the horror of having some of the worst times of my life be discussed by my abusers on a world-wide level for years, to the point where my life is ruined, only to have to open up about all those things that I can barely talk about in private to an international audience and how painful and humiliating that must be. So, yes, I'm obviously biased, but the fact is, Heard's also claimed to have been through this hell, and I don't see my own experienced in her, I see my abusers' tendencies in her, despite the genders being reversed, so make of that what you will.
thank you for saying this. Listening to just one conversation where she is asking him to do something to help her because she is starting to look like a bad person and wanted her victim to "fix" the problem she had caused was all I needed to hear. I have been verbally abused for years by a loved one. I worried about what everyone thought of me because of that person's descriptions of me and the lies that were told. I didn't have a world stage to get on to "right the wrongs". But over the years I have realised that the person who told the lies has been recognised as a liar. That my self worth was okay. Having said that, I didn't lose my livelihood because of it. I didn't lose millions of dollars or have the press harassing me over it. I sure do feel for him.
Love your testimony and agree with you wholeheartedly. Particularly your last statement about seeing yourself and your experience reflected in Depp (and not in Heard). Me too.
Thank you. I completely agree with you. I also went trough similar experience and even now years after those things happened I still feel embarrassed and shameful to talk about it. Especially because I fear being judged for not leaving immediately and putting up with it. Also, I fear that I won't be believed. So basically the abuse is still working even though it was a long time ago.
I was married to a woman like this - according to her parents and sister, she was bi-polar. She could be the most charming and lovable person one minute, and violent and abusive the next. She even tried to take a 100,000 dollar life insurance policy without my knowledge. When I found out, I waited until she was gone one day, left most of my things, and never looked back. I don't know if this is what is going on with Heard, but her face alone reminds me so much of my ex.
I did the same ....but she was not bi-polar ..but she had a disorder.....but i left while she was there..i had a co worker with me ..omg she was pissed ....but i got my stuff and never looked back ...
I'm very sorry you both had to experience such horrible relationships. But I'd like to take the blame a bit of mental disorders. I have a borderline disorder but I would never hurt someone. But I had boyfriend's who remind me of her.. I believe most of people with mental disorders aren't out to hurt people, rather stay intact for oneself. But I believe the narcissist in her, and maybe traits of a sociopath made her so cruel and careless...
I have bibolar. I have never been violent or abusive. I have medication and I know my symptoms, so I haven't had any serious hypomania/mania or depression for more than seven years. When I had hypomania, I didn't get angry or violent. I got super creative. I would just paint and draw and write. I didn't get sleepy or hungry. I was super social and would chat non stopping with anyone I would encounter. I felt like I was smart, quick and super talented. In reality I was going so fast that others couldn't keep up and it was really hard to understand what I was saying. But of course you can't be without sleep and food for long so I would collapse eventually. Then I would often get depression afterwards and be completely nonfunctional for a long time. But I haven't ever been dangerous for anybody else than myself.
A few HUGE tells for me are: Which person has long-time friends? Which person has long-time employees? Which person has former partners coming forward saying good things about the accused? Amber Johnny Friends No Yes Employees No Yes Ex-partners No Yes
Cannot wait until you do Amber Heard. She started testimony today and I am not the expert but came off very disingenuous to me. Too dramatic and no tears but acting like she was crying. I am dying to hear your take on it.
I cannot wait for them to break down her body language, Because I've been through multiple forms of abuse. And I have a diagnosis of CPTSD and she is dripping with lies. I'm so disgusted that she would pretend about something like this.
@@jennifermesser5962 Me too Jennifer. 😭 It made me sick to see SO much lying & know what true abuse feels, looks & sounds like... How dare she do that to 'us'... Survivor's forever 👌
As a victim of domestic violence, that nearly took my life on 2 separate occasions, I have to say, she doesn’t act like a person who has been abused, in no way. Her recordings triggered me. After the divorce, she jumped into the dating pool? I am 22 years post divorce, I don’t/won’t date. She gives me that danger vibe and I was on her side before watching the trial.
❤️ I am sorry you had to go through that. But I agree. I am 17 years post Physical/SA and she does not act like a victim at all. I too am getting danger/aggression/control vibes from her like an abuser trying to hold on to any control she can with her body language and he's giving me nervous/"I don't wanna be in the same room as her vibes" as a victim being intimidated by his abuser. And then the way she's sitting there...there's no stress about his presence, there's stress about this court hearing being real. I can tell you, the appointed psychologist I had with my case made me never want to trust another one. And the one that they put on the stand today definitely triggered my PTSD and I had to step away from the hearing video for a bit and take some of my meds. It was absolutely horrid to me.
So agree with you, Karen McDonald! I survived a lifetime of domestic violence and cannot find any common ground with A.H who makes my skin crawl. She is so self-righteous and opinionated and aggressive ..... which are perpetrator traits! How 'experts' can miss the red flags which she constantly displays is beyond belief.
For sure. You see it in the way emotes being at wits end, he doesn't know what to do except escape (and then she pursues him and starts fights to prevent him leaving, eventually she resorts to physical violence to prevent him leaving). He can't escape. All he can do is pop Roxies and nod off. It's his last escape. And then that's taken from him also.
Ive noticed that from day one Johnny came to court quite shy. Hiding behind his long hair and quite hunched. Not very expressive at all. As the weeks have gone by he has straightened his back a bit. Pulled his hair back and isn't afraid of hearing about his past. Both good and bad from everyone on the stand. I think this is therapy for him. He feels the support from the world and knows that people can see the truth. Just my 2 cents.
You got it perfectly. He is shy, actually. For years and years he has said he doesn't like doing interviews - even on talk shows. If you haven't watched him in an interview, watch him on Graham Norton.
Yes, I noticed that too that Johnny Depp became more light hearted and Amber Heard shedded the meek battered woman look since the cat is out the bag (truth is coming out) 😂
I believed her in 2018. I don’t follow Celeb’s lives. I didn’t know he was married & didn’t know her. But I believed her b/c who would lie & WaPo does their research, so I thought. But Issac his friend was so credible I changed my mind like that. I’ve had to testify. I also have PTSD, and my heart broke listening to him b/c you can see the pain. When AH testified nothing triggered my PTSD. I became enraged. But I wanted to see these videos to see if y’all saw what I did. And so far you have. Got 2 more to go. TY
She played a character she knew he´d fall in love with...she never loved him, she just wanted to possess him.. she´s a chameleon and will do the same again and again... I pity her mail order baby because she will "form" that poor child to be what she wants it to be... "putty baby"
As someone who has also endured abuse (childhood sexual abuse)...I can clearly see that, as he speaks, Johnny is 'coping' through his memory/replay of the abuse...it comes across as a bit 'detached'...as if from a 'third-person's perspective'...exactly how I would cope when having to describe the abuse to others (eg, to a 'child psychologist'). Rather than 'relive and experience' the abuse all over again...in an effort to 'protect' myself from 'reliving' the abuse, I found it easier to do so by creating a 'third-person alter'...Johnny is speaking the TRUTH...in my opinion. 💗💗💗
Same here. My counselor pointed out that I laugh when discussing my abuse. I never realized I did it. Some people might interpret that as not being traumatized or even lying about it. Nope. It’s a way to distance yourself.
@@sherrimiller5258 Yes! Same here...I remember meeting once with a child psychologist when I was twelve-years-old...I told her everything that had happened to me, relating to the abuse, and I said it with a 'smile' (dissociative, in nature)...she called me a liar to my face, in front of my parents...I never went back to see her...it was so shocking to me.
Looking at the comments, most, if not all are in agreement with you guys. JD appears honest and has lost so much in monetary terms and in reputation too. I feel so sorry that such a talented and hard working actor has been brought to his knees by this woman.
I wouldn't say she has brought him to his knees. That would be granting her too much power. Kudos to him for fighting back in a way that he can be vindicated in a responsible way.
He has said several times." You're killing me." She damaged his soul but it looks like he's healing. Check out pics of Johnny when he met her and a year or two later. Drastic change.
I watched an interview with Camille Vasquez about Johnny's preparation for the stand... ...she said they brought in a really rough lawyer and everyone who had been kind to Johnny left them and the prep lawyer must've got out Johnny's rage anger and upset about this whole scenario... ...was excellent for Johnny's demeanour on the stand but I also think it was the best therapy that Johnny could have asked for... To tell his story in his own way without reliving (on the stand) his Australian breakdown ... Well done team Johnny..Still happy for Johnny a year later 🌻
I hope he has gotten therapy and found clarity. It made me sad to see him rocking back and forth at times, shutting his eyes, or looking down at the table as recordings of AH screaming and laughing at him were played. Remember both of them have had numerous depositions and practiced their testimony which likely numbed them somewhat. But he testified as if he was reliving a horrible memory. She testified as if she were in a soap opera scene. Icky. Hope she gets help for her BP and Histrionic problems.
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@1:20:21 - Eyes go around, head is following the eyes, scratch of right eyebrow, eyebrows raised, all of these movements express a feeling of deep concern : The huge wasp is back in the house of Scott Rouse 🐝 🧐
I disagree the whole time that Scott equates them to the trailer fighting / volatility. Do you do that to other victims of abuse? He did call her names etc, but equate him to this being trailer volatility, nope. He was an abuse victim. Remember. Many of us have heard ALL THE AUDIO AVAILABLE. Including Australia. (She claims the Australia audio proves what he did. It does not. It has her admitting she hurt him and it has others protecting her from police for JD).
Just an FYI.
Police. Remember the audio where she mocked him about telling the judge, jury and the world?
We all know men do not come forward as easily when they are abused. They are not believed. Even with proof. They have to spend money in court to prove it. And even then society tends to still treat them as the abuser. The results of this case proves it with all those who still push AH as the victim of abuse and him as the abuser.
Tsk, tsk, tsk Scott. ;)
What he lost....
He was not speaking of just money. It was reputation. Family. Friends. Etc. He has worked for decades and he has never been accused of such things. He wanted to die. To reach such depths.....
Any time he has physically hurt her has been accidental during her attacks on him. He speaks of it in audio. And he speaks of it on the stand. But he has never deliberately beaten her as she has claimed.
I don’t think Johnny is doing this for money. He wants to restore his reputation and end the vilification of him.
The movies will be coming to him after this. Amber is toast. Hollywood should be ashamed.
He HAS been redeemed.
He's obviously not thinking about $....its a no brainer....why would you immediately got to that content of talk in a youtube conversation? Duh dummy.
They both love drama, because two narcs make chaos!
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I agree!
This woman wasn't done with him after the divorce. She had to ruin him. She had to ruin his career. She could have just been done with him. But she had to flatten him financially. She took full advantage of guilty because of accusation. She accused him and for Disney he was automatically guilty. He's fighting for his life and his 30 year career. Kudos to him for not allowing her to get away with lies. As a practical matter, she doesn't have 50 million dollars, but he needed a chance to fight for his vindication. Good for him. I hope he wins.
Especially she already been pain 8.000000 $ for fake damages few years ago
That's what people with her personality disorder does, destroy everything in your life because they are empty inside.
Strange how, when she accuses him of something, he loses work. But when he accuses her of something, she's still making movies. If it wasn't for double standards, Hollywood wouldn't have any standards.
Johnny needs his reputation back! He is the victim not her. Amber turd will torture him financially and emotionally for the rest of his live if he doesn’t protect himself in court right now. He is out of his comfort zone and was hoping she would back off but unfortunately she will never stop attacking him. Evil in my opinion. Johnny has already WON in the court of public opinion. Just because he is an alcoholic doesn’t mean he is abusive.
Johnny should have called the cops and got a restraining order when his finger was lopped off and a lit 🔥 cigarette butted put in his face !!!!!
It can’t be good to be amber turd from this trial forward. Live and learn you can’t treat people like this. Assult is unacceptable.
I think even if he loses the defamation case, he wins in the court of public opinion, he gets his side of the story out. the People can see he's been abused, and gained back any fans he lost in her lie. he'll go on to make more movies and maybe even one about his life married to her, one day.
It’s worth noting that his former partners have supported him. That’s pretty indicative, given his age and the fact that he’s been in long-term relationships. People who are abusers don’t just start at age 50.
I think so too, but I think it was a toxic relationship
Good point. If he is an abuser it would have been evident long ago.
The pattern is hers not his 🤔
I see his eyes brighten when he is recalling something he feels uncomfortable talking about but he is being truthful.
That’s very true 👍
The smile is his way of lessening the trauma. I did that a lot before I had a ton of emdr therapy. I still catch myself awkwardly doing it sometimes. It was my way of saying “it’s not a big deal” “I don’t care” “I’m fine, see?” It’s a way of disassociating from the pain, especially in front of your abuser.
Agreed. Love this comment.
How I feel exactly.
Well said! And the humour, no joke too dark. Ooh I could go right down the rabbit hole with this.
@@khaosssssss1727 I can’t speak about anyone else’s trauma experience but with mine, the worst of my post-trauma period really brought out some very “dark humor” and a lot of self critical jokes.
@@felineoverlordservant2419 yep and yep. I'm so sorry.
Ps your username is fabulous!! :) xxx
There was a clip earlier that hit home hard, where a man said: a woman in fear would not defecate on her husbands side of the bed.
I just hope any men who watch Johnny talk about how he has been abused, gives them the strength to speak up too if they are in the same situation.
A woman in fear would not do 90 percent of what she did. Especially recording him when he is angry about something else and standing right there. Let alone laugh and smirk at the end of it and continue with her sarcastic, demeaning, insulting behavior! That was a dead give away for me.
Nor would she throw his property out the window.
It was the dog
@@christenesinclair2610 lmao, no.
@@christenesinclair2610 if my teacup Yorkie produced something that big I would have been taking them straight to the vet as it was bigger than them 😂
I was a military nurse for a long time, and an EMT. Depps describes, in a very common way, a recollection of an injury like he sustained. Many people will remember having gone through a traumatic injury, and are surprised they didn't feel pain right away. They first feel the warmth of the blood.
I believe his smile at "looking at my bone" is also a common reaction. Many patients I've spoken with do the same smile because they remember the shock of seeing inside their body while their brain is saying, "that's not right!" Most people don't have exposure to blood, guts, and bones. It's not only a physical shock to see a piece of your body gone, but it's a mental shock.
Love your vids!
Agree. As a nurse in med surg have seen patients try to make a joke of their situation is a protective effect of the event.
Agreed, I accidentally chopped of my whole finger with a machete, didn't feel a thing, no blood to start with just went pale cold, and walked back a mile plus to camp and calmly asked for help to drive to hospital pain didn't start until much much later but nothing to the pain of physiotherapy after it was reattached to get movment
@@seanfuller2152 glad you are ok now! That must have been a rough day!
I was knifed in the stomach as a kid in a street fight. Even know when I tell the story I inevitably smile and I remember the physical details and not the fear at first. The warmth of the blood, the strange feeling of the knife almost popping in, the glare of the street lights reflecting of the damp asphalt, the crisp autumn air. There is a level of detachment and also trying to put people at ease.
The funny thing is that a woman who drinks every day and uses drugs is upset that Johnny does it.
Scott, I learned from being a DV survivor that the person is often too ashamed to contact the police. And for men it is even harder than it is for women.
He was a year behind me in junior high and high school and he was always very quiet, very, very gentle. The most often I remember seeing him, aside from when he played in a high school garage band,was sitting out behind the high school on a picnic bench playing his guitar all by himself. There is no way that the young man that I remember could have done any of these things.
Thank you.
That matches my feeling about him, just intellectually & emotionally, & intuitively.
@@redwoodrebelgirl3010 you're welcome. It's the truth, and I have several high school friends who would back me up. He was a quiet sweetheart.
I watched his sister's testimony and knew right away she was honestly portraying the real him, but it's nice to hear it from someone else too.
@@saprenna Thank you. Why has ONE person (Amber) claimed he is violent and abusive and that ONE person has DV charges in HER past. It is a no brainer. She thrives on conflict and playing the tough thug standing up for herself . She is her own worst enemy.
That is lovely to know, thank you. It breaks my heart as we now know what he suffered at home, but that he has always been a gentle soul is exactly what I would have thought about him. I am so happy that he has been able to clear his name with this trial, be the case a loss or a win, he has proved who he is.
There is footage of Heard smiling and talking with her lawyer and then she remembered the camera and instantly faked sadness.
She’s a pariah amongst women. I’ve survived long term abuse and amazing support organizations helped me. She is not - from my experience and education - an abused woman. She’s terrifying and a threat but can not act like a victim. I and other women I know are NOT responding to what she’s doing or how she’s presenting herself. Johnny is for real abused - it resonates with my own and other women I know very deeply. What he’s doing takes an enormous amount of courage.
100% agree with you. ThNk you for sharing
having also lived & survived it, I agree
Absolutely agree 💯. She lost any hope of me believing her when she started making very direct eye contact the first day and then began playing mind games with her copying his wardrobe as of the second day. These are the exact opposite of someone who experienced abuse facing their supposed abuser. I'm speaking from personal experience and what I've learned from therapy for DV
Bingo!!
I was abused too and all I see is an old guy who married someone basically half his age (probably to hold on to his lost youth) then has the nerve to blame all his issues on his deceased mom. An aging actor taking no personal responsibility whatsoever.
To me, that smile he does seems as if he's realizing how absurd everything was looking back on it. Almost like he can't believe he was in that situation.
I've personally done the same kind of thing when something crazy happens and afterwards you're almost in disbelief at what just happened.
I think Johnny's laughter is him in disbelief. Disbelief at what happened to him in this marriage. Disbelief that anyone would think he would abuse a spouse or girlfriend. Disbelief that his career is being ruined by these lies. Disbelief that he has to appear in court in order to clear his name.
One thing I feel you have all missed is that anyone who was abused as a child learns very quickly to minimize their pain--to temper all 'complaints'. I feel his smiles are this mechanism at work. He smiles to dismiss his pain, his injuries, to laugh it off in case acknowledging it brings on more of the same abuse.
It's a defensive reflex.
Definitely, I do this too. I use humour to diffuse tense situations or conversations.
I don't think people have missed what you describe, they just don't know the name for it. I agree, it's a coping mechanism for him. His reactions and actions, even in verbal tapes submitted for evidence, his anger I'm even controlled. He tried not to deflect anything onto her and take it all himself. Amber is a true bipolar with psychotic tendency. If you watch other tapes of her being questioned you can she how smug and self righteous and indignant she is. This women seriously need medication and psychological help permanently. Until then, I really don't think the rest of us are safe around her. Thank you for your keen insight.
I worked in mental health for many years as a an advocate and also am a survivor of a horrible dv situation very akin to what he went through. Many victims in an effort to not break in front of people from the memories often smile like he does. It's a defensive mechanism I catch myself doing still nearly 30 years post trauma. It keeps me from falling right into the PTSD mind. One therapist told me it's a wedge we place between now and the then.
me too
I really like that metaphor
I'm a psychotherapist that works with victims and this is exactly it. Smile to cover the pain. It is a coping attempt to counteract the pain. People smile
I often do the same thing… And if or when I am recalling the incident to someone else, I find myself smiling but it’s because when I hear it out loud, I truly can’t believe that I actually experienced that. I realize how awful or how bizarre it sounds… And it makes me feel very uncomfortable. I feel like people will think I’m crazy because I lived it.
@@liliane456 yes keep your smile Johnny the truth will prevail
"I'm scared to death. I'm frightened and I don't know what to do. I'm confused and I want to go home." -Johnny Depp's message to his fans, May 11 2016.
Then he smiles. It seems how he copes.
Mark Bowden should watch an old interview by Oprah. Johnny sounds exactly the same as he does in the courtroom. He's always spoken slowly, seems very thoughtful, takes his time getting his words out, etc.
he talked like this whe he was young
I stand with Johnny 100%. Amber just breathes lies. You can’t believe her AT ALL !!!! I will never watch anything she stars in. I pray Johnny recover ms all.
Having been abused emotionally and physically its shocking to see yourself in these relationships ! Especially when you believe youre a strong independent person…!
All I see is an old guy who married someone basically half his age (probably to hold on to his lost youth) then has the nerve to blame all his issues on his deceased mom. An aging actor taking no personal responsibility whatsoever.
@@MM-qp4pd 100% agreed what a waste. It is truly disturbing to see all of these people defend a rich, spoiled actor that they do not know. Truth is you never know someone until you live with them. I am not defending anyone. Bringing the second law suit after losing the first is just desperate. He chose to sue and drag this out.
Fascinating. One thing I think the panel misses in Depp's occasional smile (when he relates certain disturbing things) is a sort of tragic irony; a rueful expression, which is darkly comedic. I get that.
Agreed. My sister's reaction to bad events is laughter. If she sees a jump scare for example she would get shocked and then start laughing. The worst it is the more she laughs. At one time she was swimming and her leg cramped and she started drowning. She was laughing so hard that when in the seconds her head would pop out of the water she couldn't breathe. My aunt thought she was playing and was laughing with her, until someone pointed out that she was drowning. Thankfully she got out safely.
The bottomline is: Depp seems believable and Heard seems unbelievable.
In this case it's that simple
Scott, let me tell you why Depp did not call the cops. When you are accustomed to yelling, violence & mental abuse for a long period of time, you learn to live with it & you don't call the cops. You also learn you keep it in the family. My intuition: She found out how easy he was to manipulate & decided then & there she was going take him for all she could, way back when. Love ya
A prime example of why it’s so important to get out of a toxic relationship as soon as you see a picture forming… it can take a while, but once you see it, leave! Their respect for you has long departed before you have.
It's scary how there's still people who can't see the blatent narcissistic traits in Amber's facial expressions and body language.
It’s terrifying how no one is looking at Depp’s behavior. He admitted he was a monster and apologized to her after the chaos.
And yet even professional mental health experts all agree you CANNOT make a diagnosis without spending significant time with a patient in a clinical setting- your powers are amazing!
@@supergoobergirlable No special powers unless you count common sense.
Spend enough time around a narcissist and you’ll recognize them far faster than someone who’s merely learned of their traits in a textbook…
@@thisdivinefeminine632 so true
As a retired psych RN, who worked adolescent psychiatric units, adult/addictions, state long term hospitalizations, and 2 prison psych units, I've seen many people like Ms Heard. I'm so glad to hear you explain so much to the public,who Probably don't know or see what's really going on. I can't diagnose them but I'm thinking there's more deception from her than from him. And, any man who maintained years long relationships, and his exes have nothing bad to say about him, would most likely change as drastically as she claimed. Second,she would most likely split immediately after the first " event of aggression" where are the hospital/Er reports?? Police reports?? , Injuries from naked feet walking on broken glass?. I'm having a harder and harder time believing her.
TYPO ALERT. HE WOULD NOT, NOT change suddenly.. she inadvertantly admits she got physical several times., To me, she goaded him multiple times trying to get him to break and get physical. She tried to use the" invited slap" on him,and left too many trails in her lies that could be question ed. Too histrionic in her" breakup", with no tears, no dry mouth, needing to take sips of water,. No runny nose and Kleenex. ALSO,she dabbed her hanky BETWEEN her eyes, not wiping eyes or nose. Too much INCONGRUENT behavior 🙁🤔 too disturbing. I've seen a lot of assault victims and PTSD. She doesn't seem to fit. .
Now pretend that you are a woman.
I have been fysically abused and told NOBODY. Out of shame. I could have won a court case if I had taken pictures. Instead I wore long sleeves.
My career was very similar to yours and I completely agree with your assessment of their situation. I started watching the trial with an open mind. Over the course of many days and many, many hours, this has come into sharper focus. I think bringing this to trial was basically the best option for JD.
As for Johnny smiling, the first time I went to a therapist and told him about painful parts of my life, he said "Do you realize you are smiling?" I said that's what my family expects me to do. It's just a way of coping with a bad situation. It's also a way of talking to other people who have never been through trauma.
It's also pointing out how totally crazy and absurd something is. It's so crazy it's funny. Being able to laugh in the face of danger is a good coping mechanism as it stops you from just locking up from the situation.
He also did the same thing in the "poo in the bed" part. He said he laughed because it was just so extremely disgusting and unexpected.
@K. Littleton I do the same thing
@@katwebbxo I know many ppl who smile or with women giggle about the most insane situations. I use to question them asking how can you smile or laugh about something so serious or crazy. I now understand that is their way of coping
@@tishbrabant4930 That's true. It can be for many reasons but very often they're not laughing at the situation itself.
Same. Often I'm smiling ad I tell the most foul behaviors I experienced with my mother & exhusband (both abusive, rageful people). I was embarrassed for them, embarrassed that I went thru it, people pleasing not to get more abuse... she never once pointed it out; I noticed it. That smile quickly melted into anger and crying...
Amber in my humble opinion is a malignant narcissist.
Can you please talk about Alejandro vaping and driving with no seatbelt on in the court room and the judges face afterwards that was absolute comedy gold 🤣👌
He is the best🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Think about this: it hurts terribly when you are wrongly being accused of something very bad.
I believe him!
As a woman who has escaped an abusive relationship, the breakdown Johnny describes is the madness you get driven to by the constant rollercoaster of living with an abuser. We should stand behind JD as we do for all the women who are abused by their male partners.
It is such a shame that as a society we still haven’t evolved enough to take female on male domestic violence seriously. Having someone with the kind of reach that JD has might just turn things around. I’m hopeful.
But they both were chaotic with each other. Heard doubled down by going public and playing wounded fawn when she was an aggressor. That's what's wrong here. She pretended she was an abused woman.
She and Johnny were fire and intense in their relationship and they both should have walked away from the relationship without going public with a dog whistle.
Johnny did that. Amber didn't.
But I don't think it makes Johnny a poster child for abuse.
Dorothy Stratten was abused. These two abused each other.
Agreed: We stand behind Johnny as we do for all people who are and have been abused by their partners.
@@tinakochan7360 Red Flag? Of extreme embarrassment? Or more like a cautionary tale about age-inappropriate relationships? Sure, but as a generalization. There may be a small percentage of relationships with huge age disparities which are genuine. For the most part though, they do seem like trophy-wives and pay-daddys, whether the participants are admitting it to themselves, or not. The calculated actions of AH are simply amazing though.
@@neryskkiran1820 first you are focusing to much on age about this case. And this is not a case based on smarts of morality. And this sh*t happens and has happened in Hollywood for decades. Real world too but.... Are you giving her some kind of cred ??? Cause that would be f**ked up !!! Bad decisions can be made anytime but gives no one a pass to be evil to another person
You four have helped me more then I can express. I was raised in a family where I had to walk on egg shells. Alot, of abuse. I was born in the 60's and you didn't talk / seek help for mental illness. You guys have explained but not made excuses for the abuser. Thank you for helping me release anger/pain and give forgiveness to my mother. Not so much for her but for the child afraid and on guard always. I know this doesn't pertain to Johnny Depp/ Heard. But, Heard's behavior does remind me of my mom. 🕊️
This was a beautiful comment. I completely understand you. Hope you've find peace.
No Scott, its not about him losing money. Its about his kids. Its about his name.
I lost my daughter 3 months ago.. She passed unexpectedly 🙏 She was a major Depp fan as she was an artist also. This is compelling for me ! Thank you guys so much 🙏🙏
Deeply sorry for your unfathomable loss. And glad these four brilliant minds could provide
relief. Their insights are mind boggling. And on a gut level, I always agree. I also find myself crying for your loss. May you find comfort in those who love you and others who understand. This panel seems to understand just about everything. ❤
So sorry for your tragic loss........
My thoughts: Johnny Depp was being Johnny Depp and telling his story
I don't think it's kosher to keep portraying Johnny Depp as an actor regarding his testimony. Have you ever lived with a borderline personality/hysteric personality. She wants to destroy him. I hope she loses and Johnny Depp wins. I hope he is able to be set free from his hurts.
I believe Depp. I think Amber is a vicious person who was trying to control him.
I also believe that bc he experienced this crazy behavior in his upbringing (his mother was abusive and very unpredictable, erractic) that he tolerated the abuse in his relationship until he couldn't anymore. I hope he heals from this. My heart goes out to him 💙
I love that Amber totally exposed and ruined herself in the process of trying to ruin Johnny Depps life. A lot of what Johnny did was in part a reaction to being in a abusive relationship.
“This is not life”. Anyone who has been in an abusive or toxic relationship can totally relate to that statement.
I was abused too and all I see is an old guy who married someone basically half his age (probably to hold on to his lost youth) then has the nerve to blame all his issues on his deceased mom. An aging actor taking no personal responsibility whatsoever.
what's also happening with him is that he has been gaslighted for a long time, so when he is speaking he is questioning if his reality is real. He was made to feel crazy when he would speak out (to her) so he is not sure of his own declarations as he hears himself out loud.
Yes! I definitely agree with you, I specially after hearing a lot of the audio of their convos during trial. I hope she is fully cancelled after this. I feel so bad for her child that she only had to get sympathy.
I think Valerie Bertinelli said it well... "Good Acting isn't lying. It's finding the truth of a character. Bad acting is when you can't find the truth and so you fake it." I believe he went through straight hell, I totally believe him.
I hope Johnny's team sneaks that into final arguments. That is what is speaking to me here and with the whole Evan Rachel Wood/Marilyn Manson thing.
Great comment! Valerie Bertinelli is a classic act!
Show me the body language expert who thinks Johnny is lying and Amber is telling the truth. I haven't found one and I've been watching videos all afternoon.
The only thing I disagree with is that I don’t like to watch peoples worlds fall apart.. I watch because I want to have hope in human kind to right these wrongs. I’m team Johnny. She has destroyed him. I’m not stupid enough to think they didn’t both have a role in this toxic situation but he did not deserve to be destroyed.
I'm 10000% with you
Me too. His vocation should not have been taken from him because of an allegation.
I see Amber as the abuser, and Johnny just defending himself the only way he knew how and that's what he did as a child. He walks away, taking himself out of the environment. That's self defence on his part!
Maybe you could watch uplifting stories like humanitarians helping orphaned animals. Get freak darling, you're loving the drama and lack of class
I can really relate to the way Depp tells the story. When you’re not an aggressive person and you’re confronted with a crazy borderliner, you can’t believe people act that way. You’ve no idea what’s going on and why somebody would act that way. Like when you deal with a narcissist, you can’t believe somebody can be that manipulative. Why would you act that way? It doesn’t make any sense to a normal person. It’s like you’re in a parallel universe when you deal with narcissist and borderliners. They thrive on conflict. It’s maddening.
Totally agree. I’ve been in a relationship where at times I was so baffled, thinking, I must be crazy. I must be really off here. Until I finally learned I wasn’t the crazy one. It is really shocking and confusing to be with someone like that
You said that so well, Hattie de Korte!! It's like be dropped in the middle of a foreign country you've never even heard of.
I do not condone nor support any of Amber’s allegations, behavior, or attempts at higher social status using the ACLU and Me Too movement to further her reputation using false allegations; if Hollywood could strip her “status” I would be the first to sign the petition. I’m horrified that she has been labeled BPD because she is NOT indicative of us all. That said…
As someone with BPD I can understand why you’d say that, however I’d like to impress upon people that for BPD’s there is a struggle between, a lack of personal identity, a constant fear of abandonment and the conflicts that arise out of that fear.
People with BPD have EXTREME emotions and can range from utter rage to pure bliss in a matter of hours. The conflict arises when we feel like we’re about to be abandoned (justifiably or not) and our emotions escalate to extreme in .06 seconds.
The person witnessing the extreme emotions, having no idea how to respond, typically respond in triggering ways that in turn escalates the rage. (for example, leaving) That’s where the conflict arises. Living with this disorder for so many years I have been able to “roadmap” these issues and offer people close to me various ways of de-escalating or diffusing or otherwise reacting in ways that allows us to move from rage back into bliss without damaging either’s “relationship rights”.
I hate conflict, avoid it at all cost. However, if conflict arises I do have the wherewithal to mind my manners and not engage in any type of abusive behavior verbal, physical or otherwise.
Please be mindful to remember people with BPD are not worse than anyone else they just need special accommodation and understanding. Amber’s behavior clearly is unacceptable, wholly unjustified and completely disgusting but I have to believe in my heart of hearts it’s because she never took the time, nor did her family take the time to diagnose her and encourage her to get the therapy she needs earlier in life, thus it’s easier to raise good children than fix broken adults. ❣️
❤️ If you ever want to know why someone is acting a certain way, take the time to ask them. ❤️
@@susanb.3363 what’s the first thing you do when you go to a foreign country? Either get a pocket translator or find a local to show you the ways. The point is, you can learn how to have happy relationships with people with BPD, you just have to be willing to give it some effort, similar to building a wheelchair ramp for someone who recently lost use of their legs, except you build a knowledge base of coping skills instead of a physical ramp. 💗
@@imperfectcreations7075 sorry but that is an absurd comparison...BPD vs wheelchair ramp. Black/white, sun/moon, apples/oranges.
Kinda strange how people keep referring to JD as the alcoholic and drug addict as if AH isnt.
Right?!? And that chick sounds sloshed in most of the audio recordings. She sounds drunk off her ass slurring her words. Ridiculous. Calling the kettle black. SMH 🤦🏻♀️
Completely agree.
Yes 100% agreed
I agree, she was drinking 2 bottles of wine per evening. She did the drugs as well.
Everything he says matches up very well with the audio we hear, whereas in none of the audio does she sound like the weak victim she wants us to believe she is. I have been through this myself , in my relationship with my wife, she is a cluster B personality and the few times I have reacted to the abuse it was reactive when you can’t take it anymore and can’t get away. Everything is so similar, I am so glad this is coming out and just hope the jury sees the truth.
Yes she's vicious. Not to mention she's beaten up her sister, punched her ex-wife in the face. I can only imagine how many others there are.
As a clinician I have to say that slow, careful, delayed stumbling responses are very indicative of him being a recent victim of domestic abuse. People often confuse processing disorders & PTSD trauma related communication problems for "other things." I found his speech & associated behavior to be genuine & natural. With that being said, he was using an appropriate amount of caution for the words he used, per his setting & consequence.
yes. a family member in an abusive relationship displays this same speech pattern and affect.
Was very abused throughout childhood, married another=violent abuser, (became Christian @22), then married a controller (who wasn’t in the beginning-though looking back, signs were there). He’s old now, and after many years trying to (him trying) yo control his control, I, find myself avoiding ALL and any confrontation by behaving exactly the same. Keep opinions as my own to avoid any conflict, all is verbal/not physical, but finding it has taken a weird toll on me. An old lady now, and I still down know how or when I could have corrected course. (To gain my own control over my life back.) terrible. I always thought I wasn’t a victim, and moved through this life ‘acting’, but end facts are there. I hope he gets a good grip on his life, and gets as far away from that thing as possible.
Absolutely agree. As much as I hate to admit this I've been a victim & have been on the other end, I'd like to think I wasn't aaasss bad. None of us walk in another persons shoes. In Love and War Love is a most splendidlishish.... thing
And being a victim... is war
War with yourself if you don't stand for yourself! . After 7 years I can stand up for myself and have splendishish too! Domestic violence... I have no words than can give it an excuse...
Yes Dead on👍🏽
@@Judithestears hes been away for years AmberApparently had a baby ( insemination )
I wanted to add that when I was 27 I had a waterskiing accident and my thumb was cut off by a boat propeller. Johnny’s description of a traumatic amputation is spot on- all the way from no pain at the moment of amputation to shock when one sees the bone protruding from the injury is indicative of a sharp object suddenly cutting of the digit. This doesn’t happen on a crush injury or other type of digit loss. Johnny being initially unaware he lost his fingertip would be consistent also. As a person who’s experienced the same thing AND being a registered nurse, I have to say this is a shock response and also Johnny suffered significantly as the hand has more nerves than any other part of the body. In addition his MRSA infection could have become so serious he could have lost his hand or arm - or possibly ended up in ICU with a potentially fatal septic shock from MRSA. So Amber could have been prosecuted for a serious crime had Johnny wanted to go after her for this when it happened.
I had a very deep wound in my leg behind my knee. I didn't know I was hurt at first until I saw the blood. It severed nerves I never felt anything until the disinfectant was applied.
My daughter had her leg taken off by a drunk hit and run driver. The only way we can deal with the trauma is to joke. It’s gallows humour. We can’t let the guy who did this win by making us bitter and hateful.
Greg, heard a commentator w ur interview on Newsmax ask how the judge could allow Depp to wear "sunglasses" in courtroom. He has monocular vision, legally blind in left eye as is my son. With 2D vision, looking at bright screens causes headaches & frequent floaties among a plethora of other things many who see w only 1 eye, have. The necessity to protect remaining seeing eye is imperative so good idea to always have some lens in any case, shaded outside & when reading quite necessary. Also, may require bifocals or assistance w vision in seeing eye. Nonetheless, his need to wear tinted lenses is something 99% or more monocular people are very familiar with. FYI.
Surprise surprise Amber now wearing a similar pair.
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Absolutely! I was diagnosed with Anosometropia (Amblyopic type) when I was 3 years old. I was very lucky to have had such early, high quality intervention…yet have still struggled with issues due to the condition throughout my adulthood.
Photophobia (medical term for extreme sensitivity to bright lighting) has been an ongoing problem.
I was diagnosed with Chronic Migraine years ago, and specifically, FL-41 tinted lenses are often deemed as being medically necessary for many fellow Migraineurs I know in various situations. I did not think twice about his use of tinted glasses in Court as I noted he was putting them on whilst looking directly at a bright electronic screen in front of him and removing them after viewing the screen.
I myself have several different tools to help with Photophobia/preventing Migraine & Eyestrain from screens emitting bright/blue light. The Court is supposed to uphold these types of medically necessary accommodations.
Johnny depp always had rings on. Her face would have been badly beaten to a pulp the way she says it happened, she had nothing but botox bruises. The end. Johnny is truth.
Even without the rings, if he had beaten her the way she claims she’d have been a bloody mess.
Not saying Johnny is a saint and might've done SOME physical violence, but the ratio between how many recordings she has, aka she is tech-savvy enough for that, and how many photos she's got showing proof of her abuse, is really suspicious to me. At worst that points out the level of abuse he has done was nowhere near to what she claims.
Watching her on the stand, I believe I can safely say there’s no academy awards coming her way anytime soon.
Because Johnny Depp is a actor doesn't mean hes acting on the stand. I believe hes being genuine
Johnny spoke truth when he said "I've already lost win or lose this case" folks have Unfortunately formed an opinion. Tragically it will always follow him. AH is an evil vindictive person. I do pray he wins!
Johnny Depp feels ridiculous to be in this awkward position on regard to domestic violence towards Amber Heard. He is totally innocent. She is a vindictive, jealous woman. I've experienced domestic violence. I am 66 years old and seen a lot of life. This man is INCREDIBLE. He is innocent!!
I think he looks like he's going through 2nd hand embarrassment for her because she is trying so damn hard to convince everyone of her lies she a abused him again in her testimony she really should be ashamed of her self
Being a DV survivor this made me very sad. You don't forget these largest moments. He is not lying at all. After 40 years I could tell you every second of being held at gunpoint for several hours to keep me from leaving. I feel this pain. He finally passed out and I lived in my car for a couple days. I was 21. At 64 now, it's fresh in my mind
@@cargosmith ❤
I was married to an abusive alcoholic man for 7 yrs unable to leave..he didn't allow me to work but I could go to college part time..i had nowhere to go with my 2 little girls..finally after 7 yrs of horrendous abuse (broken bones etc) I took my girls and left (6 months before graduating RN college)..He wouldve killed me for sure had I stayed..
I totally agree you do not forget the largest moments. I too am a DV survivor and a survivor of SA. It has been 23 years since the DV and 41 years since the SA and still at age 65 I remember every detail of both.
@@annesmith457 🤗🤗❤
@@rebeccaswift7588 Good for you. We are survivors and fighters. 🤗💗
I think Amber has been coached to look sad because, prior to this, she was smiling
That’s why her face looks like a mask.
I'm pretty sure she's had something to keep her calm too
Great talk guys! side note: I hate it when men say things like..."you sound like you're in love with him" It's kind of male training to reign in heartfelt ideas and feelings. As if it's something to be ashamed of somehow to admire someone's awesome talents, whether they be a man or a women. It's childish.
Agree 100%
Johnny looks better today than he's looked in years. Amber sucked the life out of him and he looked so gaunt, so drained. Now he looks alive and gorgeous again. He has cheekbones to die for! It was sad to watch his physical decline and emotional decline during his time with Amber and during the aftermath. He looks healthy, dignified and self-confident again...and handsome!
I’m not a big drinker and I don’t do drugs ….but after hearing all J.D.’s recounting of what he had to endure with her constantly
RIDING HIM about everything -with no way out, no escape, it’s not hard to understand him returning to the bottle.
People on social media are trying to discredit him for being a drug/drink guy, But People use drugs and drink a lot when they are trying to numb something out so surely its the opposite, Its ridiculous.
I personally suffered as a drink abuser and it was because I was being mentally abused by an Ex GF i know the reasons why from personal experience
This whole situation is absolutely tragic im with JD 100%
@@ryrkra8096 He's not on trial for substance abuse, in fact he is very transparent about his drinking and drugging. Drinking to numb out, is what JD goes to when he has had enough or can't deal with anymore. Through it all, when he goes there, it seems he just wants to get away from the trauma inflicted by Amber H. It appears that she can't just leave him be.. heavens. Provoking him at every angle...Jeez . Godspeed JD
@@currybase I'm very aware of the situation I was just saying my piece
@@ryrkra8096 I am agreeing with you.
@@currybase Ahhh gotcha
Alejandro the doorman was a hero yesterday. “We all have problems” as he drove away vaping!
Lol!
Utter legend!! Getting asked about what kind of makeup Amber was wearing was hilarious!! I don't think Alejandro is someone to notice that kind of detail... most men don't hahaha!! Johnny couldn't stop laughing, it was a light moment amongst all the heaviness.
Loved that! It was hilarious 😆 and so trye
Johnny’s sister has a similar smile at seemingly-odd moments in her testimony. They were both treated horribly by their mother, and I suspect the smile has something to do with that-a face they put on, an adaptation to the pain. You four make a wonderful panel, and I particularly like the diversity of experience and knowledge that Mark adds. Terrific insights!
My father did the same thing. They smile because it’s just so ridiculous and unbelievable that it’s almost comical to them. Some people have a sarcasm about them like that. Just like people that laugh if they see someone fall and it’s not funny but they have instinct to laugh.
Laura Hammond clearly you belong in the gang of the iracional dogs. SINCERELY after Your comments . Steak to the animal kingdom together with the 22 👍athore canines .
I was abused too and all I see is an old guy who married someone basically half his age (probably to hold on to his lost youth) then has the nerve to blame all his issues on his deceased mom. An aging actor taking no personal responsibility whatsoever.
@@MM-qp4pd Do you not think that childhood trauma has a lifelong impact?
@@halcyon2017 of course is does. Most of us have experienced childhood trauma including me but there comes a time when you need to stop acting like a victim. Especially if you're a 50 something old dude with all the privileges in the world. Amber is basically his daughters age with obviously less experience
I celebrated when Johnny won this case.
JD is not imitating anybody! He is just being himself!
I can see it too, the mannerisms of characters. I don't take it as a criticism.
I've been in Depp's situation, when I would talk about situations with my ex that were abusive, I would do the smirk he does, or laugh as a way to minimize and downplay how horrendous what happened actually was. It came from a place of shame and embarrassment to talk about that treatment out loud.
No one is ever able to describe the real horror and helplessness of abuse. The abuse is numbingly loud, emotionally and physically painful, contemptuously dismissive, fearfully invasive, etc. To tell the story, you tell some details, but no one understands 1) the lead up to the abuse, 2) the accusations the abuser uses as justification for the abuse that is coming, 3) the out of control out-of-body response to being abused, 4) the fear of acknowledging and feeling the physical pain because the abuse may start again in you are to hurt, and 5) the forced emotional dampening required to not remind the abuser of what he/she did, and 6) the inability to find a safe place to suffer.
Telling people about abuse also can never convey the sound of abuse. The hits, the yelling, the painful responses, the whimpers stifling the sound, the sound of a body hitting walls and furniture and the floor and the items on the tables, etc. The thing the movie "The Burning Bed" did right was the sounds of abuse. Don't watch the TV. Just listen.
@@TanukiOfficial In this case we do actually hear the horrifying abuse that he was subject to , from the tapes and also from the witnesses . We also hear him trying to reduce and avoid . He gives a little grin in self deprecation . I do that to make light of stressful situations.
Thank you guys I’ve been waiting for this one!
Our pleasure!
I remember when this come out, it was really upsetting and triggering, as a man who's been abused by a woman. It wasn't about his presumed guilt/innocence, it was the many claims that a man could never be abused by a woman, and the way people tried to base these claims into stuff like biological essentialism.
All of this is insane but the part that's really upsetting is that she would use what he told her about his childhood trauma against him in arguments. What a betrayal. And a good portion of all this happened while his mother (his abuser) was sick and dying. The fact that he was able to come to terms with his feelings towards his mother while also going through all this is truly remarkable. He is one Hell of a man
Anti-social personalities come across as if they are your absolute soul mate, and people will bare their souls to them, just to have the information used against them at the most opportune moment.
Narcissists always use your vulnerabilities as a weapon to be used against you.
He is smiling to cover up a deep sadness. It is trauma surfacing. If you can't cry then laugh.
I watched a friend of mine do the same thing as Amber is doing to Johnny. My friends husband had trouble talking about the way he was abused. I saw her throw a bottle at him and cut his head wide open then she blamed him. I finally had enough and called the police on her without her knowing. Police came and they finally arrested her. Our friendship ended because she was so abusive and would lie about it. Men can be abused. My friend so reminds me of Amber. So Mark I really disagree with you.
A guy who had been badly physically and emotionally abused by his (bigger and stronger) wife told me once that people don't realise how hard it is to be a male abuse victim, he said that women and children are rightfully supported, protected and defended when it comes to light that they have been mistreated but his experience was a complete lack of sympathy. He was told to "Grow a pair" or "Be a man" (he WAS a man, a gentle man who was taught to never hit a woman, even in retaliation). He was treated with scorn and derision and had absolutely no legal recourse. Of course he got out (eventually) and of course he had to pay a large proportion of his earnings over to his abuser each month. Sometimes we need to open our eyes to the fact that the preconceived ideas we have aren't always right.
My brother also had trouble telling anyone he was being abused. After suffering over 2 years of non-stop abuse from his alcoholic wife, he came very close to telling me about his situation one night in a tearful phone call. But after a lot of hesitation all he could say was that they were “having trouble” and asked me how he could fix it. Then 6 mos later, she almost killied him one night with a hammer, and he had to call 911 to save his life.
Later he told me he hesitated even then because he knew that 911 call would enrage her even more, set into motion a chain of legal events, and make everything he was going through public. And it did. Her DV trial is this summer.
So JD not calling the police and trying to handle the AH situation privately is understandable from this perspective.
@@ConnieLeinicke did your brother divorce her
@@rachealfaucher4520 He tried, but she managed to delay a property settlement, and he died 2 weeks after the divorce hearing (before the divorce became final).
@@ConnieLeinicke I'm so sorry Connie for the situation and for your loss.
There are so many women out there that DO get sexually and/or physically abused by their male partner. And this woman wants to accuse, and destroy the reputation of, someone SHE abused!!!! I think this woman, I use the term loosely, is vile. What's good for the goose is good for the gander - she deserves jail time for being abusive.
I was deeply disturbed by the way Amber Heard looked at Johnny Depp.
She reminded me of how a Predator looks at its Prey.
This feels much more than Hatred. She wants to completely annihilate him
I don't think she'll ever be through punishing him. Escaping from that type of personality type is almost impossible.
I didn't get an authentic holding back crying feeling from her at all. I got an "I need to look sad and not laugh so I'm going to think of my childhood dog that died" feeling from her. Day one I told my bff that Amber looked like she was trying to hide a smirk and not laugh. It was so unsurprising seeing her actually smile at one point when she forgot to keep the "I'm devastated and sad" look going.
Yes, at point she had to cover her mouth!
Lmfao aye i use the memory of my dead dog when i need to cry for voice acting. Works every time.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 She can't do it. Poor thing, even if her family dog died. She is trying to think about everyone refusing to watch Aquaman. I was going to but.... never mind, I will not. She can't be an actress, she has no REAL feelings.
Worked in DV for ten years and her body language is not consistent with what I would normally observe in DV victims. Most DV victims can't even stand to be in the same room let alone stare down their alleged abuser. Jonny Depp seems to avoid her eye contact from the footage I have seen. It truly disgusting if what I suspect is true about her allegations as this is not only a slight on Johnny Depp but all victims of DV.
I totally agree! As a survivor of DV myself, I could not fathom staring at my abuser that way. In fact, I never even considered taking him to court for his treatment of me, bc it makes my skin crawl just to imagine having to be anywhere near him again. I once was working in a restaurant and his doppelganger came in to eat and it caused me so much fear and panic that I was shaking the entire time he was there, even though I knew it wasnt my abuser, just another man who looked like him. My brain was saying "it's okay, it's not him, just a random customer " and my heart and whole body was screaming at me to run out of the restaurant and get as far away as possible.
Seeing the way Heard can just stare at Depp and have no fear response and almost unchanging expressions, really convinced me that there is no way he abused her. Plus the fact that in recordings of them she calls him names and says all sorts of instigative things. When I was with my ex, there was no way in hell I would ever say something that could cause him to be upset. Never ever ever. No way would I want to start a fight with him if it was avoidable. It's so clear to me she was the abusive one in this relationship.
@@jaquelyncaiello4569 thankyou for sharing. I hope you are ok now and have found peace and happiness.
Classical DV survivor through hell & back & yrs ago when I heard about this I instantly bonded w/Johnny Depp & later was shocked how things went in the UK, foremost why all these DV groups & DV advocates didn't see through AH... are they that easy blinded by potential donations?
@@aysegulapaydner unfortunately some get blinded and think men don't suffer as DV victims. When I was in the job and had male victims I couldn't get them support anywhere as DV support agencies were geared to supporting women because majority times its females was their response. I beg to differ these days I think male victims are well and truly under reported due to stigma, cultural expectations and lack of resources for them.
In cases of women DV on men the woman gets the TRO 1st which immediately classifies the other party the abuser. He cannot get any resources as the abuser.
And people do treat you weird, different, and are. wairy of the man.
Lower economic status gives these manipulative type women free access to legal help, and the "Women helping Women" organizations write TROs in abundance to hype their numbers for more money in grants from government.
After 2 TROs (all full of lies and untruths) you would think that judges would put a stop to a 3rd, 4th, and now a 5th all in 8 years time for a person/man I write court motions for..
These woman use the system to punish, manipulate, torture, alienate the children, and become relieved of financial responsibility through the men they trap.
Some unspoken law, or a real law that you have to believe the abuse victim, and take them at their word with no evidence. Makes me think of Gabriel Fernandez. Sad ...Something is very lacking in our society.
Johnny Depp is making history for men, and at the same time shaming the system we live in. We can do better.
My husband talks like Johnny Depp but when words comes out from his mouth, very intelligent answer with a bombshell. Those are men that they used their mind rather than their mouth. Hurray fir JD! I pray that he will win. He is a drug addict but not a domestic violence guy.
Kudos to the Behavior Panel for telling it like it is. She is a malignant narcissist.
Thanks to Greg, Scott, Mark and Chase for being respectful to Mr.Depp.
Lol. That was hilarious.
You can definitely tell he relives each moment he has to talk about. You can see it in his eyes. He seems like such a precious soul.
😂 women🤦♂️
Oh Andy….The things women see
Yes, he was just as convincing in what’s eating Gilbert grape, it was just so convincing
You can tell he is re-living it all & not lying.
Absolutely.
The MAN, who is just Johnny, has every right to say that “He Lost Nothing Less Than Everything!” As he has lost his own sense of self, his life’s Work that are taking over 40 decades of Hard Work 😓 & time from his family!
The only person JD abused/hurt was HIMSELF! Johnny looks a broken man up there. My heart goes out to him. He's such a witty, funny, beautiful man. Imo he's won for just telling his truth to the public. It's a vulnerable and fragile topic to speak out about. This may help other men who are in a volatile relationship. Much love and respect to him. 💯👏💜
50 million? what? he aint gonna get anything. She will go bankrupt and that is it. He is fighting for his honor right now.
The very measured, careful word choosing is a trait I've noticed in other abuse victims. When you are dealing with a disordered/high conflict/ abusive person, they will often be 'triggered' by certain words or phrases, using the 'incorrect' term or word can send them off into a tirade. So the person who is trying not to set off their abuser will measure words very carefully, keep the tone neutral and soft, and do everything they can to sound calm and soothing, nonconfrontational. The slips into saying 'you are getting hit'...he's depersonalizing in order to protect himself and his abuser, turning it into a third person recital of events rather than making it about what was done to him, what she did to him, because he knows that would be triggering to her, to admit to himself and to her that he felt abused. Would send her into another storm of abuse, or would be admitting to himself the shameful and 'unmanly' fact of being beaten by a woman. Y'all are dead-on about the smile. It's not duper's delight, it's not 'funny' it's a rictus, and the smile when asked if he had ever sexually assaulted her hurts him as deeply as every other incident that he responded to with the rictus-- recounting physical abuse, loss of career, loss of public approval/admiration, loss of reputation.
exactly. good point!
This was so enlightening! Thank you.
It’s also very slow and delivered when every single word is listened to by the whole world.
Let’s not forget this too.
Amber's a disgrace to actual victims of domestic violence. I am a former victim, it's hard to get through each day fearing what will set your abuser iff and here she is lying and calling herself a victim when she was the abuser all along. I hate that she included herself in our "camp".
In her UK deposition she calls victims of DV “doormats”. When I heard her say this, I was furious! Then, she tells Savannah Guthrie she wants to be the voice for DV victims while really thinking they are doormats!!! What a disgusting hypocrite!
@@LolaClo she's a psychotic POS. Proudly, I can say that people like Johnny and myself are no longer "doormats", we're free of that physical and emotional pain.
Totally know what you mean Thunder, divorced my abuser but yes I remember that feeling walking on egg shells never knowing whats going to set him off next
Johnny knows who he is. He doesn’t need to mirror anyone.
Something that's interesting to me. She has recordings of him being violent with cabinets, recordings of her admitting to hitting him, recordings of her calling him a coward because he always walks away (seems strange for an abused person). But no recordings of her accusing him of hitting her or being violent towards her or any of the other allegations she's made, let alone him admitting it? At least from what I've heard.
Yes and that’s because as BPD and narcissistic personalities do, they are so hyper focused on self and their own POV to the point that they become oblivious to the obvious truth outside themselves (what we see as truth). They baffle themselves with their own Bull💩 and still think they have a chance to win any argument regardless the evidence of truth. This entire lawsuit has only highlighted the terrible person that she really is. She’s not a terrible person because she has a personality disorder, she’s terrible person because she has shown zero desire to at least try to become a better person. She gets kicks off hurting people and getting away with it.
There’s a video on TH-cam of Amber on a talk show. She unequivocally states she HAS donated $7 million to two charities. States dramatically “I wanted nothing.” This is going to come back to haunt her now that the truth of the ‘donations’ has come out.
Also, the UK court case...
Told the judge, it had already been paid out...!
Under oath, in a court of law, on public record...LIED
She also stated in the UK Court under oath that she had donated the entire $7 million to charity.
Neither of them are saint's, but he is telling the truth. She should be ashamed of the enormous danger and possible death that she has caused real victim's. She was not the victim of abuse. She is a narcissist that could not control this person. Thank God they split! Thank God they both are still alive. If he was the monster that she portrayed him to be, the verbal abuse alone that she constantly barated him with would have caused him to physically hurt her bad. The kind of damage her "bruise kit" could not cover. Like broken bones. Not to mention the physical abuse that she did to him. She set him up so many times. He is the victim.
I work with victims of abuse. I’m gutted at the damage she has done for her own selfish ends. There are social media sites for victims of abuse where survivors are still believing her and fearful ‘the abuser’ took her back to court. This could silence genuine victims from accessing support and justice. She’s set the cause back decades.
She was worried about his drinking as she drinks 10K$ of wine a MONTH?
I think she was throwing lavish parties on his account. No human can consume that much alcohol in that quickly.
She had a 30,000 not 10,000 a month habit. 2 bottles a day times 30
@@zenaasura1769 ppl with a tolerance can easily drink 2 bottles a day. U clearly don't know about addiction or alcoholics
I can confirm some of us were born with what I call the inappropriate smile syndrome. We smile when we're nervous, afraid, sad, angry... (Everyone knows to run the other way if I'm made and start smiling.) We aren't happy, amused, enjoying the situation, etc... we simply cannot stop it. I wish I could force myself not to do it.
@Heather Harris, It might be nervous laughter. It seems to me it's more like he almost can't believe what he's saying because it's so bizarre, he can't believe this is his life.
I'm a " crack a joke" person.
I think if there's a disconnect between the panel and some of the people commenting, it's that some of us have been through abuse, be it in childhood, or in a relationship, and have had to deal with the gaslighting, the breakdown of our self-esteem, the humiliation, the fear, and ultimately the knowledge that there are people who would not believe us, who didn't believe us, who bought the abuser's stories about us, and the pain and frustration one feels having dealt with life ruining abuse done in the shadows and coming out of it only to find that some people are judging you based on your abuser's words. It feels like hell, it feels like reality is out of step with your life, it's frustrating, etc. Now, that does not mean that everyone who believes any specific accuser or accused is right on the facts, because we weren't actually there, but it does mean that when people miss possible interpretations of the emotions behind reactions that we've also experienced, it can feel almost personally insulting.
Personally, I do that "laughing/smiling to myself" thing when I'm confronted by this level of dissonance. Also, I happened to be abused at both 13 and 16, and never once called the police, nor did I tell anyone about it for years, and 30 years later I still hate talking about it. I can't imagine the horror of having some of the worst times of my life be discussed by my abusers on a world-wide level for years, to the point where my life is ruined, only to have to open up about all those things that I can barely talk about in private to an international audience and how painful and humiliating that must be.
So, yes, I'm obviously biased, but the fact is, Heard's also claimed to have been through this hell, and I don't see my own experienced in her, I see my abusers' tendencies in her, despite the genders being reversed, so make of that what you will.
thank you for saying this. Listening to just one conversation where she is asking him to do something to help her because she is starting to look like a bad person and wanted her victim to "fix" the problem she had caused was all I needed to hear.
I have been verbally abused for years by a loved one. I worried about what everyone thought of me because of that person's descriptions of me and the lies that were told. I didn't have a world stage to get on to "right the wrongs". But over the years I have realised that the person who told the lies has been recognised as a liar. That my self worth was okay.
Having said that, I didn't lose my livelihood because of it. I didn't lose millions of dollars or have the press harassing me over it. I sure do feel for him.
Thank you for your comment offering a deeper, more personal insight into a complex situation. I really appreciate hearing your perspective.
Love your testimony and agree with you wholeheartedly. Particularly your last statement about seeing yourself and your experience reflected in Depp (and not in Heard). Me too.
Thank you. I completely agree with you. I also went trough similar experience and even now years after those things happened I still feel embarrassed and shameful to talk about it. Especially because I fear being judged for not leaving immediately and putting up with it. Also, I fear that I won't be believed. So basically the abuse is still working even though it was a long time ago.
I was married to a woman like this - according to her parents and sister, she was bi-polar. She could be the most charming and lovable person one minute, and violent and abusive the next. She even tried to take a 100,000 dollar life insurance policy without my knowledge. When I found out, I waited until she was gone one day, left most of my things, and never looked back. I don't know if this is what is going on with Heard, but her face alone reminds me so much of my ex.
I did the same ....but she was not bi-polar ..but she had a disorder.....but i left while she was there..i had a co worker with me ..omg she was pissed ....but i got my stuff and never looked back ...
I'm very sorry you both had to experience such horrible relationships. But I'd like to take the blame a bit of mental disorders. I have a borderline disorder but I would never hurt someone. But I had boyfriend's who remind me of her.. I believe most of people with mental disorders aren't out to hurt people, rather stay intact for oneself. But I believe the narcissist in her, and maybe traits of a sociopath made her so cruel and careless...
I have bibolar. I have never been violent or abusive. I have medication and I know my symptoms, so I haven't had any serious hypomania/mania or depression for more than seven years. When I had hypomania, I didn't get angry or violent. I got super creative. I would just paint and draw and write. I didn't get sleepy or hungry. I was super social and would chat non stopping with anyone I would encounter. I felt like I was smart, quick and super talented. In reality I was going so fast that others couldn't keep up and it was really hard to understand what I was saying. But of course you can't be without sleep and food for long so I would collapse eventually. Then I would often get depression afterwards and be completely nonfunctional for a long time.
But I haven't ever been dangerous for anybody else than myself.
A few HUGE tells for me are: Which person has long-time friends? Which person has long-time employees? Which person has former partners coming forward saying good things about the accused?
Amber Johnny
Friends No Yes
Employees No Yes
Ex-partners No Yes
Shut up Karen/Amber!!!!
She still has to lead her case, what are you on about?
@@BanditZA once you have beat up friends and sister and abused mother you might be an abuser here's your sign. That is what she is on about.
@@BanditZA What are you trying to say?
@@smith899 I’m saying that we can establish these things after she has called her witnesses only
Cannot wait until you do Amber Heard. She started testimony today and I am not the expert but came off very disingenuous to me. Too dramatic and no tears but acting like she was crying. I am dying to hear your take on it.
Same here.
I cannot wait for them to break down her body language, Because I've been through multiple forms of abuse. And I have a diagnosis of CPTSD and she is dripping with lies. I'm so disgusted that she would pretend about something like this.
@@jennifermesser5962
Me too Jennifer. 😭 It made me sick to see SO much lying & know what true abuse feels, looks & sounds like... How dare she do that to 'us'...
Survivor's forever 👌
As a victim of domestic violence, that nearly took my life on 2 separate occasions, I have to say, she doesn’t act like a person who has been abused, in no way. Her recordings triggered me. After the divorce, she jumped into the dating pool? I am 22 years post divorce, I don’t/won’t date. She gives me that danger vibe and I was on her side before watching the trial.
Glad u see what 99.99% of us see ....anybody who is on her side at this time is a complete idiot or another amber in disguise 🥸
I don't think he has been in the dating pool since all of this went down. She has gone through several relationships.
❤️ I am sorry you had to go through that. But I agree. I am 17 years post Physical/SA and she does not act like a victim at all. I too am getting danger/aggression/control vibes from her like an abuser trying to hold on to any control she can with her body language and he's giving me nervous/"I don't wanna be in the same room as her vibes" as a victim being intimidated by his abuser. And then the way she's sitting there...there's no stress about his presence, there's stress about this court hearing being real. I can tell you, the appointed psychologist I had with my case made me never want to trust another one. And the one that they put on the stand today definitely triggered my PTSD and I had to step away from the hearing video for a bit and take some of my meds. It was absolutely horrid to me.
So agree with you, Karen McDonald! I survived a lifetime of domestic violence and cannot find any common ground with A.H who makes my skin crawl. She is so self-righteous and opinionated and aggressive ..... which are perpetrator traits! How 'experts' can miss the red flags which she constantly displays is beyond belief.
I think he stood up to her, and she calls that abuse. JD is a reactionary person, she is pro active.
Why does no one address that his drug and alcohol abuse may have been exasperbated because he was in an abusive, toxic relationship?
For sure. You see it in the way emotes being at wits end, he doesn't know what to do except escape (and then she pursues him and starts fights to prevent him leaving, eventually she resorts to physical violence to prevent him leaving). He can't escape. All he can do is pop Roxies and nod off. It's his last escape. And then that's taken from him also.
I see your point. It is "exacerbated", though, not "exasperated", when referring to his drug and alcohol abuse.
@@iadorenewyork1 thanks! I corrected it, my spelling is horrible.
Ive noticed that from day one Johnny came to court quite shy. Hiding behind his long hair and quite hunched. Not very expressive at all. As the weeks have gone by he has straightened his back a bit. Pulled his hair back and isn't afraid of hearing about his past. Both good and bad from everyone on the stand. I think this is therapy for him. He feels the support from the world and knows that people can see the truth. Just my 2 cents.
Wow.......I never thought of that. I think you might be right that this could sorta be a sense of therapy for him. Lets hope it does help him.
You have nice insight on things. Thank you for sharing :)
You got it perfectly. He is shy, actually. For years and years he has said he doesn't like doing interviews - even on talk shows. If you haven't watched him in an interview, watch him on Graham Norton.
Yes, I noticed that too that Johnny Depp became more light hearted and Amber Heard shedded the meek battered woman look since the cat is out the bag (truth is coming out) 😂
He’s acting in my opinion.
I believed her in 2018. I don’t follow Celeb’s lives. I didn’t know he was married & didn’t know her. But I believed her b/c who would lie & WaPo does their research, so I thought. But Issac his friend was so credible I changed my mind like that. I’ve had to testify. I also have PTSD, and my heart broke listening to him b/c you can see the pain. When AH testified nothing triggered my PTSD. I became enraged. But I wanted to see these videos to see if y’all saw what I did. And so far you have. Got 2 more to go. TY
She played a character she knew he´d fall in love with...she never loved him, she just wanted to possess him.. she´s a chameleon and will do the same again and again... I pity her mail order baby because she will "form" that poor child to be what she wants it to be... "putty baby"
“Nothing less than everything” is the quote of the entire trial.
It would be a great nook title
I mean book title😂
As someone who has also endured abuse (childhood sexual abuse)...I can clearly see that, as he speaks, Johnny is 'coping' through his memory/replay of the abuse...it comes across as a bit 'detached'...as if from a 'third-person's perspective'...exactly how I would cope when having to describe the abuse to others (eg, to a 'child psychologist'). Rather than 'relive and experience' the abuse all over again...in an effort to 'protect' myself from 'reliving' the abuse, I found it easier to do so by creating a 'third-person alter'...Johnny is speaking the TRUTH...in my opinion. 💗💗💗
Same here. My counselor pointed out that I laugh when discussing my abuse. I never realized I did it. Some people might interpret that as not being traumatized or even lying about it. Nope. It’s a way to distance yourself.
@@sherrimiller5258 Yes! Same here...I remember meeting once with a child psychologist when I was twelve-years-old...I told her everything that had happened to me, relating to the abuse, and I said it with a 'smile' (dissociative, in nature)...she called me a liar to my face, in front of my parents...I never went back to see her...it was so shocking to me.
Looking at the comments, most, if not all are in agreement with you guys. JD appears honest and has lost so much in monetary terms and in reputation too. I feel so sorry that such a talented and hard working actor has been brought to his knees by this woman.
I wouldn't say she has brought him to his knees. That would be granting her too much power. Kudos to him for fighting back in a way that he can be vindicated in a responsible way.
He has said several times." You're killing me." She damaged his soul but it looks like he's healing. Check out pics of Johnny when he met her and a year or two later. Drastic change.
I watched an interview with Camille Vasquez about Johnny's preparation for the stand...
...she said they brought in a really rough lawyer and everyone who had been kind to Johnny left them and the prep lawyer must've got out Johnny's rage anger and upset about this whole scenario...
...was excellent for Johnny's demeanour on the stand but I also think it was the best therapy that Johnny could have asked for...
To tell his story in his own way without reliving (on the stand) his Australian breakdown ...
Well done team Johnny..Still happy for Johnny a year later 🌻
I hope he has gotten therapy and found clarity. It made me sad to see him rocking back and forth at times, shutting his eyes, or looking down at the table as recordings of AH screaming and laughing at him were played. Remember both of them have had numerous depositions and practiced their testimony which likely numbed them somewhat. But he testified as if he was reliving a horrible memory. She testified as if she were in a soap opera scene. Icky. Hope she gets help for her BP and Histrionic problems.