The French settlement at it's peak had 75 people and civilian and even if it didn't have them, the French soldiers would count, the Montevideo convention says that the population must be permanent not civilian edit: I no longer give a fuck so don't respond.
@@anunakissts1153 it seems you are some butthurt Argentinian. Why do you even care for barren islands which Argentina controlled 200 years ago? Stop dreaming, you lost 2 wars, do you want to lose another?
@@Daneclaw no they had it. As a viceroyalty of La Plata but then British took it back. But that doesn't even matter today. Everyone there is British and they want to remain British. Why to start a war for some useless rocky islands where everyone living there is your enemy? No point. Also for the bankrupt and corrupt Argentine government the similar war like previous is not affordable at all.
1:16 the Britons (arguably alongside the French) are the first settlers and indigenous to the Falklands. If someone said "Britons return home you colonials" the modern Falklanders would look in confusion as the first settlers to the Island were Anglo like people. They are native.
Jeff Morse that is false in fact. The islands were under argentine rule till 1833 when England kicked the argentine population by force (at that time there was a peace treaty between the two countries)
@@pabloorqueraisa8898 This is a lie. The Falklands were already owned by the British at that time. A foreign businessman based in the United Provinces of the Río de la Plata established a settlement in the Falklands with the permission of the British government. The UP government then illegally gave this businessman the title of governor, and he took to committing acts of piracy against American sealing ships, presumably to enforce his monopoly on that industry. The US Navy retaliated, and a small Royal Navy force restored law and order in 1833. They wanted to keep a viable settlement there, so they paid the South American workers to stay. The only people expelled were a UP military force that had illegally established themselves there - and that was mostly made up of British mercenaries. Argentina has no valid claim.
Jeff Morse actually Argentinians are Europeans too.... they’re of European decent. You refer to the British as simply British and not the Europeans, because then it gets confusing
Where in the UK? It's more of an English accent. Welsh and Scottish accents are also British, but this one is clearly English. Great Britain together with Northern Ireland forms the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, abbreviated to the UK, to which you can add Irish to the aforementioned accents. Hope this helps.
@@pussypostlethwaitsaeronaut8503 Thanks for the education lol. English is also British. Hope this helps! (You can’t say it’s not British because it’s English - think about how little sense this makes!). I’m English, but I’m ALSO British!
@@2595220 yes, there is actually. I think you are saying because the accent varies throughout the Britain. All of those variants are still British accents.
There is a distinct Kelper accent. But many islanders come to the U.K. for secondary school education. They once went to Argentina but their illegal 1982 occupation put paid to that.
-They settled first -Britain won a war -The population are all of British settlers -The population wants to become British territory Argentina : "Nah, idfc it's still mine" Edit : Yes, the first settlers are the French, but, they got it in competition with the Argentines first, that's what I meant.
But it was a different period, now it's against the international rights, it's like say well so return India to UK becouse it was conquered by British soldiers
Pde Jews have nothing to do with the UK. Just because yer all jealous that your countries weren’t as successful as the UK. Also...... A bit unfair to Anglo when speaking about the British People especially how the island is made up of 4 kingdoms.
@@kalamugam-drastrakishansla8629 then the spanish got off because Pope line on map and money but then the english came back and they had more guns so they kicked them off the islands lol.
Go back to playing cs:go or sum... u prob live in the middle of London so I don’t really know why you fucking care so much about islands in the Argentinian Sea
@@juanmorley5388 why do you care so much about some islands in the argentinian sea? Oh yeah your still as salty as the argentine sea since we kicked of our idlands sll those years ago
@@_su0p Bruh are you sure you’re British? Cuz u ain’t even writing correctly and I only partially understood what you said, basically another “ooh why do you care about the islands we stole from u ooooh”
all cultures are native in south america, where do you find argentine culture outside argentina? Same thing to say that the culture of Portugal is not native to the Iberian peninsula because the lusitanian tribes were dominated and shaped by the republic of Rome. English culture is not native to Britain because Anglos stole territory from Britons
@@dicitencellovoyais7914 English culture is a mixture of a lot like French, Norse, Germanic, Celtic and probably a lot more The British isle has had many invaders and has invaded many places to just say it came from Germany is simplifying it to much (Ik I sound pushy hear or something I just mean this as a statement and not a way to have a go at you)
It looks like my kind of country. Watching videos like this and reading Rex Hunt's memoirs has really given me the urge to visit the Falklands one day.
The British do not just have "influence" over the Falklands Islands. The Falklands Islands are British islands. The British own the Falklands Islands. Those islands are overseas British territories. The British exercise sovereignty over those islands. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@the_dropbear4392 no, sorry, it's written in the "Archivos de Indias de Sevilla" 'Indian files of Sevilla' for you, they have everything about The Spanish Empire in the Americas and the commerce between Spanish mainland the American territories, and it's written that settlers from the canary islands (Spain) and the viceroyalty of la Plata (Spanish Argentina) already were in las Malvimas (claimed by Spain before anyone) beeing fishermen and Having farms with cows.
As an Argentinian, there is one way to know the owner of the islands. The one who obtains them by war, colonization, interchange or money. And England is there from 1830, Argentina wasn't even a nation. The fact that the Islands are closer to Argentina than the uk isn't an argument. There are plenty of cases around the world like Canarias Islands, St Helena, Easter Islands, the virgin islands, etc. And here in Argentina we have a colonization history as well, the Patagonia was full of natives and we just started going down and killing those people, and same with Paraguay. But what else can we wait from cheap nationalism? The people are British. Period.
It's kinda funny as well that some of the Argentines living on the Falklands voted to stay as part of the UK in the referendum. I think that says something.
@@oscarbosio9881 Tal vez hacen las cosas de manera diferente en Argentina, pero en los territorios británicos, incluidas las Falklands, tenemos boletas secretas. Y en el caso del referéndum de las Falklands, fue supervisado por observadores de varios países diferentes que certificaron que la votación fue justa. No todos los argentinos son guerreros imperialistas, algunos de ellos claramente prefieren el estilo de vida libre y civilizado de las Falklands.
@@greedycapitalist8590 Mira yo no discto que hayan decidido permanecer en Malvinas.es lógico el 99% son britanicos o descendientes de británicos. Lo que digo es que dicho referéndum es ilegal ya que no se acepta en un territorio que las Naciones Unidas consideran colonia y en disputa.aparte de tener la gran mayoría ciudadanía británica.ni en este ni en otros casos. Es sentido común. Apsrte busca el padrón y decime cuantos argentinos votaron y que hacen en Malvinas. Por mad que insistan esa consulta popular solamente existe para Gran Bretaña.no para el resto del mundo. Para terminar fijate de que paisrs eran los observadores internacionales.no hay que ser muy inteligentes para saberlo.Para terminar hace años que vivimos en democracia el voto es secreto y universal y no mantenemos una monarquía.
@@greedycapitalist8590 Te contesto. Acá en Argentina vivimos en democracia desde hace décadas, el voto es secreto y universal.En el caso del referendun vos sabes bien que no es ilegal, ya que la Organización de Naciones Unidas considera a las islas un territorio en disputa, por eso y otros motivos no reconoció ese referendun, No corresponde el derecho a la libre determinación ya que la población de la isla fue trasplantada en su totalidad por el Reino Unida tras su ocupación por la fuerza en 1833.siendo controlados los movimientos migratorios, cuya demografía crece por las necesidades económicas y administrativas del gobierno colonial. A su ves los isleños no son un pueblo preexistente, son súbitos del Reino Unido y muchos ciudadanos de la metrópolis. Decis que fue supervisado por observadores, si es verdad, de paises a los que se les convenció para que asistan tras la visita del primer ministro británico y fueron muy pocos , los de siempre, mas algunos que se agregaron, como uno se puede imaginar.La consulta fue dirigida por Brad Smith de EEUU ( el principal aliado de G,B en la guerra de Malvinas) y solamente asistieron observadores de Canadá, Chile ( otro aliado de G,B. al que la reina le dio gracias por la ayuda prestada tras la detención de Pinochet en Londres) , Uruguay, Paraguay y Nueva Zelandia. Votaron solamente 13 argentinos que estan trabajando allá y lo hicieron por una necesidad económica, nada mas (ver declaraciones de varios de ellos en visitas a Argentina cuando se les preguntó al respeto) En cuanto a guerreros imperialistas, me parece que no te conviene meterte en este terreno, si hay un pais imperialista, colonialista, que ocupó gran parte del mundo y aún mantiene colonias, que hizo del tráfico de esclavos algo habitual, que sometió a sus conquistados es Gran Bretaña, y no Argentina, pero bueno se nota que tenes una visión muy parcial de la historia y no te juzgo. No te ceras que por esto tengo rencor alguno, pero hay cosas que no tolero y necesito aclararlas, no me interesa si las toman o no, pero las dejo a consideración de quien quiera. Para terminar Argentina es un pais libre y civilizado que ha hecho muchísimos aportes a la humanidad.
@@oscarbosio9881 El británico no ocupó las Falklands por la fuerza en 1833, esta es una de las muchas mentiras que a sus maestros se les paga por promover. Parte del crecimiento es aprender a no confiar en la autoridad. Pregúntese por qué su gobierno dedica tanto tiempo y dinero a tratar de convencer a la población de que las Falklands de alguna manera pertenecen a Argentina. Te están adoctrinando para la próxima guerra. No hay absolutamente ningún requisito en el derecho internacional para que los referéndums sean supervisados por las Naciones Unidas; estoy seguro de que los referéndums en Argentina no son supervisados por la ONU, y lo mismo es cierto en el Reino Unido. Llamar a los Falklanders una "población trasplantada" es una de las mentiras de propaganda estándar de su gobierno, y una mentira que es inherentemente racista. Dado que muchos Falklanders descienden de personas que han vivido allí desde principios del siglo XIX, no están más "trasplantados" que tú. Por otro lado, hay un país que quiere implantar una población en las Falklands, y es Argentina. Espera que se le permita a Argentina ejercer el derecho de autodeterminación expresado a través del proceso democrático, y sin embargo, se niega a reconocer el derecho de sus vecinos a hacer lo mismo, así como usted, ¿quién es el imperialista?
The kelpers are just dirty peasants. Second class citizens. Some without land just like the Jews. In good weather you can fish in Bluff Clove. Beware of unexploded mines.
@joe caterman it was a series of unfortunate events. It wasn't that the British sent mixed signals, it was that the British never really cared about the islands way before that. It is said that during WW2 Churchill said that if the argentines occupied the islands, islanders were on their own, because the UK wasn't going to go all the way down there to defend a few shepherds. The thing was that Thatcher's popularity was so low at the time that she needed that boost, she had been doing horribly and people started to hate her. And in Argentina it was sort of the same, people didn't really give a crap about the islands but the government tricked to do so through propaganda, because they too needed a popularity boost and thought the islands would be an easy and quick way of reassuring themselves. You could say the British ended argentine dictatorship, and argentines should be thankful for that.
@@VidelaArg how is that related that's an entire different story and no it was the Chinese under Mao Zdong. The British Empire did commit genocide and exploited natives, however the Brtish empire died a long time before the invasion of the falklands. Therefore are you just here to troll?
Seguramente en Gran Bretaña son tan honestos su políticos que cuando hay una crisi como la que tienen actualmente nunca buscan distraer al pueblo. Si no es así fijate como usó la reina el conflicto de Malvinas en provecho propio ya que en ese momento su gobierno estaba en plena crisis. Esto lo usan todos los gobiernos del mu do, no te creas que es un invento argentino.
BlueDragonscale That doesnt change anything. Your government constantly brings the Falklands dispute to light to cover up your more important economic problems. And thats a fact.
Argentina still salty about Falkland War, schools in Argentina keep teaching their students that Islas Malvinas is Argentinian but "Occupied by British", every official map in Argentina still contains Islas Malvinas.
@@littleshep5502 Couldn't it be the British who are indoctrinated? Oh come on, even the united nations recognize the falkland islands as a colony, the faklands are a British colony
@@danielarango3401 they see it as a country that isn't fully self governing, due to Britain still having influence and them not choosing to be completely integrated into the UK. However Britain isn't teaching the same line from elementary school upwards of the "islands Britain stole from us" despite them never actually owning them and their claim being baseless
It is still a bone of contention today in Argentina the anniversary of the war is a massive part of Argentina culture & a red button topic both politically & also socially in Argentina to this day. In Argentina they have talked about trying to take the Falklands buy force again let them try is what I say.
Let's be clear about something. The islands might be irrelevant strategically, but 3000 very British citizens live there. If 3000 British people were held hostage by a foreign power, we'd go to war to rescue them. In 1982 we sailed to the other end of the earth, not because Argentina took our rock, but because they took our people.
That's absolute bullshit. They didn't care about the people, they care about its absolutely non irrelevant strategic position. The Falklands belong to Argentina and England took them by force.
As an Argentinian myself I would love to go the Islands and ask people about their experiences that 2nd of April. I've heard hundreds of stories of argentinian soldiers in the TV, movies and even at school. I've also heard of a lot of British soldiers' experiences in documentaries, but no one ever talked to me about the civilian stories.
@@gody9516 Sea Argentina la heredera o no, los británicos llevan más de 200 años habitando esas islas, manejando sus recursos, designando autoridades, expandiendo su cultura, cuidando de su gente, intercambiando recursos, etc. Y el 99.8% de la gente en las Falklands se considera Británica, no importa la proximidad geográfica en la cual se encuentren las islas a la costa argentina, o si se suponía que las íbamos a heredar, la realidad es que la gente que vive allá es 110% británica, y la tierra es de ellos. Proponer la deportación de los residentes de la isla sería algo increíblemente extremista y en contra de derechos humanos básicos, es su tierra, así como más allá de ser parte de Argentina Rosario es mí tierra, y sería atentar contra mis derechos básicos deportarme de mi propia ciudad. Todo eso sin mencionar la sangre que se derramó en conflictos por las islas, en las cuales, recordemos, Gran Bretaña se levantó victorioso (lo cual debería dejar de lado cualquier discusión sobre soberanía, como país decidimos ir a guerra por las islas y perdimos, aceptamos esos términos y esas reglas y perdimos dentro de ellas, no tenemos más reclamos disponibles para hacer porque no nos vimos obligados a ir a la guerra, sino que como país lo decidimos). Decir que las Falklands son o deberían ser argentinas sería como decir que Taiwan debería ser parte de China por proximidad, sin tomar en cuenta el deseo local de independencia de la población de Taiwan, es una medida muy arbitraria (sólo que le tendrías que agregar el paso de que Taiwan en vez de querer independizarse querría anexarse a alguna fuerza externa, como por ejemplo ser parte de las Filipinas).
* Disclaimer por las dudas, más allá de que hayamos ido a la guerra bajo el gobierno militar de Galtieri, los militares tenían apoyo de ciertos sectores sociales y un porcentaje importante (si bien puede discutirse que no era mayoritario) de la masa del país, una dictadura sin apoyo popular no se mantiene. Ni hablar de que los militares eran exactamente igual de fascistas que Perón, sólo que en vez de enmascararlo como democracia y valerse de la propaganda y ciertos otros métodos de manipulación de masas (los cuales también estamos presenciando a día de hoy en una menor escala con políticos como Fernández y Kirchner) usaban métodos más directos y sin tantas vueltas, pero al fin y al cabo eran iguales, sólo que Perón se posicionaba considerablemente más a la izquierda al ojo público, lo cual en realidad tampoco era 100% verdadero si uno se lo pone a investigar.
Remember, Argentina broke UN resolution 502 with their illegal invasion that started the war. They also broke direct contravention rules of war, by firing upon British troops from a clearly marked Argentinian hospital ship.
What about you guys trying to invade buenos aires twice in early 1800's and failing? So you went ahead i 1833 and kicked us out of the island to try to hide your failure. And dont talk about warcrimes when you forced argentine POWS to carry munition causing the death of 3
I remember the Falklands war. The Islanders have strong bonds to The UK and are culturally British. They were occupied and had their homes invaded by the Argentineans. Thank goodness the UK had a strong prime minister at the time that quickly ordered the task force to liberate the Islands.
etoipiplus1237 Indeed it did. Thatcher was incredibly unpopular in the early 1980s. But it wasn’t Labour- it was another party, called the SDP-Liberals that were polling miles ahead of both parties. Some polls showed them being 25 points ahead of both the Tories and Labour. But after the Falklands, thatchers popularity skyrocketed and she won in 1983 with a massive majority.
They're self-governing. They elect their own government and make their own laws. They're arguably more autonomous than England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
@@jacobmeade1045 That's "NI", not "NE". And are you seriously saying England is more autonomous than the Falklands? England doesn't even have it's own parliament!
@@greedycapitalist8590 I would agree, England is far less autonomous than the Falklands... but to say because England doesn't have it's own parliament? UK parliament is British parliament and it doesn't matter what the other smaller UK nations are inclined to do, England outnumbers them all and basically, controls parliament. UK parliament IS English Parliament and everyone else there is just along for the ride on the back benches.
I worked there since 2014 until May of 2018 and your right it's very peaceful. You can leave your home unlock, leave your key in the car, you can walk in the mid night and no one will take advantage on you. The nature, the wildlife, and the view are all stunning! I hope someday in the future more travel blogger will notice this beautiful islands and try to visit this lovely country.
The British sovereignty of the Falklands Islands is not in dispute. The entire World recognises that sovereignty. Only Argentina does not, which is a failure already. The Philippines supports the British sovereignty of the Falklands Islands. Rule, Britannia! 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭✝️🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Well considering Chile is a close Allie of Britain, because chilli would have been the target of the Junta if they had not attacked the Falklands instead. Learn some history my friend.
Carlos Rodriguez Chile ever since the Falklands war has been an ally of the U.K. as they denounced the Argentines just because you think something doesn’t mean the rest of your country does In all reality your probably an Argentine pretending to be from Chile
@Carlos Rodriguez Well if you think i'm talking about supporting the Junta then you clearly didn't understand my comment. They would have attacked Chile if it did not try to take the Falklands. is what I said.
@@luciano2003. no te preocupes, nosotros lo aceptamos, hay que aceptar que si Texas, Nuevo México, California, etc fueran estados mexicanos, no serían lo que son ahora.
@@enriquebautista5701 bueno esa es la razon de porque ustedes estan como estan con la mayor delincuencia de america la mayor guerra contra el narco que haya existido y la mayor pobreza de america desparramada por ee.uu canada y sur america
@@asg9238 jajaja si eso te hace sentir mejor bueno, solo expresé mi apoyo a Reino Unido porque son SUS islas, ustedes no tienen derecho a reclamar nada
@@enriquebautista5701claro que si son nuestras las heredamos geofraficamente y por derecho colonial ademas de que poblamos primero las islas antes que los britanicos a los cuales estos HDRMP no les dejaron decidir si ser controlados por argentina o gran bretaña por lo tanto eso agrava aun mas todo y seguro no lo entendes porque tu pais nunca combatio una guerra fuera de su territorio pero a los argentinos que tenemos el mejor ejercito de america latina que no perdio ninguna guerra de todas las que lucho si nos importa es cuestion de orgullo guerrero
It's incredible to see such a remote place where people settled so recently. It must have been terrifying being the absolutely only people when the first few settlers got there!
Then they were French, then Spanish, and went Spanish lost the independence War in the continent, the Malvinas were belong by Argentina and there was a fricking administration of arg in there until UK invaded it again, so yeah, drew just skipped a lot of details
@@Frosty469 He did it. France and U.K. reach the islands about the same time, and both established settlements, then France ceded the place to Spain and they to Argentina. So we have at least the same right to claim the territory that the U.K. Am I wrong?
@@betelgeuse7322 Wrong, The French gave Spain their part of the Island, then Britain got kicked off, THen they came back, then a thing called napoleon happened and the revolutionary war, Spain and the UK had to leave the Falklands so it was unowned for a bit, then some guy from Argentina went to the Falklands with permission from Britain and Falklands to set up a private buisness venture not owned by either side, then Argentinian confederation declared him govonor, Britain came down and kicked them off the Island, then it was ours ever since minus the war, witch we won.
Hey Drew, cheers from Buenos Aires! The sovereignty of the islands is a very controversial topic, at least here in Argentina. I found the way you approached to the war itself very interesting, as well as the culture there. Talking about politics, both the argentinean and the british government are making amazing progress to identify the fallen soldiers in the war and bring them back to their countries. So far, they achieved to repatriate the body of an argentinean soldier buried in the islands since the war's end. I hope this is the first of many collaborations between Argentina and the UK. Thanks again Drew! ✌🏼You rock
I'm British and old enough that I grew up at the time the war happened and it's aftermath. Here in the UK the Falklands are still a pretty hot topic and when May spoke with your president, people were getting very worried she was going to give them up like she has pretty much done with Gibraltar the week before. When ever I have spoken to any British servicemen who served during the war, they all talk of the bravery of your soldiers and are disgusted how their officers left them to rot and die. I admit I have a very strong dislike towards the attitude of your previous governments at using the islands as a way to distract you when things are going really bad. I hope one day that all the family members who lost their loved ones in the war, can get them back on their home soil. I'm just glad that another attempt on the islands is not impossible, as the loss of life would be so pointless. Our countries are better off just moving on from the past (and the cheating in the 86 world cup) and let these people live their lives in peace.
If it was true then the UN an organization which the UK is a founder member wouldn't say the opposite Doesn't matter, he says it in a condesendent way that's the problem
Argentina never had the islands, they have no claim to them either. The people on the island are 100% British because the British are the only people to have colonised them. The Islands were British before Argentina ever existed. Argentina has no claim whatsoever over these Islands and have no right to make such claims. It is insulting beyond belief to Britain, when Argentinians even so much as talk of this matter. Britains have died over Argentina’s ignorance and arrogance. It is inconceivable that any of them would still dare to bring this matter up again. They should know that Great Britain will ruthlessly fight them if they ever try to return again. It is British soil.
@@gody9516 yeah ok , but all the people there are British. All. They are British and wanna stay with Britain. Why should they be forced to be in Argentina?
@@gody9516 I think if those are British and wanna stay with Britain they should be able to do that. And by the way as for now it's highly unlikely Argentina will be able to take them
@@gody9516 if we talk like that then all non natives should be expelled from the Americas or they should stay under Natives' rule, since they arrived first
Argentina: Falkland islanders are British colonial settlers despite the fact they have lived there for hundreds of years Also Argentina: We are proud to be descended from Italians and Spanish settlers.....
@@LiCorbin They are massive hypocrite what did you expect? They love bashing the British as imperialist when the Argies themselves were racist colonist as well.
@@longwlenguyen4214 yeah I find it funny how the argies demonise us for our colonialism yet pretty much everyone there are descendants of spanish colonists
@@LiCorbin I guess ego can be a very dreadful thing, and also the current Argentinian government sucks, their economy in utter ruin, their sense national pride were humiliation could be a contribution to their weird obsessive mentality. More ironically the island were a conflict between Spain and Britain, long before Argentina were even a country.
@@longwlenguyen4214 yeah and there are apparent talks that argentina might want to take the islands again but their military hasn't recovered at all since they last tried whereas ours has only improved 😂
I hate when my teachers almost cry because falklands aren't ours. I don't see german teachers getting angry because they don't own the rest of Prussia or Alsace-Lorraine, or french ones because they don't own algeria.
They're just butthurt they lost a war. You have a landmass that stretches like half the length of South America and you're not happy until you get a tiny little set of rocky Islands? It's always for political reasons butthurt Argentines want to claim it.
I was looking at that. When I served there we only had a choice of two beers McEwans or Heineken, which we referred to either a Red or a Green (Can) when ordering at the Mountain Bar.
Actually it´s more complex than that. The UN doesn´t validate souverignty from that. In any colony. They are british because in 1833 the Brits invaded it and threw out the argentine settlers and governor. And the islands stayed british because they won the 1982 evitable war. If the UK and the US wouldn´t run the west with their bully-like colonisation policy the war wouldn´t have even existed, cause the UN recognized a conflict in 1965, asking the UK to solve it with Argentina. Which, of course, it never happened. Brits are so superior and entitled to invade and colonise...
They are less than 4000 people living in a territory bigger than Jamaica who the fuck cares what they think, one day and a small army can slaughter them like sheep
We argentines know that war was just a distraction from a cruel dictatorship, and all politicians made an excellent job at making us feel that Islands should belong to us just because its close to us
Exactly! Thank you for showing me that there are people that have sense in this situation, personally I think the Falkland Islands 🇫🇰 should become independent so neither of us get them.
No querido. La dictadura fue producto de un complejo operativo de endeudamiento y destrucción, particularmente apadrinado por Gran Bretaña y USA. La guerrilla Latinoamerciana fue el detonante de falsa bandera para la instauración de dictaduras TÍTERES. A la Argentina la hicieron pisar el palito. La Guerra empezó meses antes cuando un contingente británico tomó las Islas Georgias poco antes de la guerra. Las islas estaban bajo control efectivo de la Argentina desde los setentas. Reporteros de guerra de la BBC de Londres llegaron a Buenos Aires un mes antes del desembarco de abril del 82 en Malvinas. Evidentemente hay cosas que no se están contando en su totalidad. Sería bueno que los ingleses suelten el archivo de Estado sobre esa guerra que ya se debería haber liberado después de 30 años pero prorrogaron por algunas décadas más. ¿Porqué será?
@@thadiussean9133 8,064 miles. we are a nuclear power so good luck 1 sub could win a war in a day. and i have no grudge to Argentinians or there soldiers they was following orders. what country you from may i ask.
Thadius Sean your just angry that the British had a empire while Argentina had just a nazi \ communist regime in power. Anyway if the Argentinians invaded again the British would win south because of better equipment and better training and all of Argentina’s fighter jets are old soviet ones
@@sergio_lopez Fuaaa tan lento es el internet en tu provincia?? Sin los ingleses no existirían, son un estado tapón para evitar tensión entre Argentina y Brasil.
@@luciano2003. qué va a andar lento el internet ... acá vuela. Capaz que en hambrentina tambien, les falta comida pero internet por ahora siguen teniendo 😅
@@Bruh-ji3jk That is false, and you cannot be indigenous if you come from a powerful country already in 1800, it is not as if you were far from globalization, you come from it. Geographically the islands are from Argentina, the people are another matter
@@gorbachevspizzahut It means that you are not a native of the island, you are a native of the United Kingdom, before there were English people living there, there were already Argentines and Uruguayans
@@Willingtomb Actually the Falklands were totally uninhabited, that's the point, the first people to ever be born, grow old and die on that Island were British, they are the natives.
My wife & I stopped at the Falklands on Apr. 3rd, 2008, on a cruise, one day after the 26th anniversary of the start of the Falklands War of 1982! Port Stanley is a far away 'slice' of Britain, similar to the town on the Rock of Gibraltar! It was great to visit an "bit of England' so many thousands of miles away!
To all the angry argies the first people to discover the islands was the British in 1690 the first people to build a town on the island was French in 1764 and the British made a fort on it in 1765 the French gave there territory to Spain and in 1771 the Spanish gave the territory to Britain who in 1775 left the island but left a plauqe claiming it as a British territory its rightfully British as Argentina only gained independence in 1820
The section about the conflict was pretty inaccurate. The British didn't "show up 3 days later" but they sailed off to the Falklands (which was pretty quick already) after roughly that time and took several weeks for the voyage. And the fighting was not "mainly around Stanley" but in many places in and around the archipelago.
That's why the islands need to be shared. It would still take several weeks to sail to these islands, from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. You could get there in just a few hours, from the Republic of Argentina.
@@gradysvacationsandnaturewalks I don't see this as a valid reason. The locals who run those islands with high autonomy want no such sharing. And looking at the Argentinian economy, Argentina can't even manage herself properly - which was the reason why the junta chose the Falklands as a distraction from their awful repressive policies and stagflationary misery.
@@notroll1279 So you don't see sharing as valid? That's actually horrible. You have no problem with sharing Antarctica with 6 other nations, including the Republic of Argentina, and the neighboring Republic of Chile. Sharing is always valid. We all live on this Earth. We all need to learn to share this Earth. And the Republic of Argentina has managed itself quite properly, in many ways. The UKGBNI could be managing themselves better too, in many ways. Full disclosure: The islands need to be a shared territory, end of discussion.
@@gradysvacationsandnaturewalks The locals have spoken in more than one referendum - and since your opinion is not terribly relevant, I see no point in discussing this with you, either.
@@notroll1279 Locals schmocals. Ever heard of French Guiana? It's only culturally French. Just like these islands. Look, you don't have to like sharing, but people don't habe to like you, either. Again, the islands must be shared. I provided valid points, and never said the British points are invalid. End of discussion.
The Grey Pilgrim actually it's disputed whether it was him or a Dutchman called Sebald De Weerdt who saw them first, but the first to actually LAND on the Falklands, officially record doing so and lay claim to them was John Strong in 1690
Reasons for British claim to the falklands: Found them first Settled them first They won a war over the islands The population wants to be British overwhelmingly Argentina’s reasons for its claim: They close to argentina
that’s a pretty big one though..if China finds an uninhabited island north of UK and settles it, is it theirs? This is such a colonizer mentality to just take an island thousands of km’s away from your state beause you found it.
Y viendo esto difícil decirles que ahora son argentinos, pero es que tampoco son británicos si ya van por la quinta generación, el problema recae en la reclamacion de la Antártida que por los términos esas islitas valen un montón
Do it, dude... They're worth it. They're BEAUTIFUL, great vistas, nicest people ever... a little piece of England in the Southern Atlantic. Love the place,love their people.
by force it is yours, but it does not belong to you, it was from the Kingdom of Spain and with the independence of Argentina it was from Argentina, literally the islands are next to it. If we talk about being countries, first that you belonged to Spain and then to Argentina with its independence, it is known that when you first arrived there were already people living there, but they hide that truth
Agreed, if Argentina try to lay claim and take the Falklands again then we’ll kick them harder then in the 80s its so interesting to see a population that seems more patriotic then actual England
Im spanish, i fully defend the british falklands ideas and same with gibraltar, if my country attacks gibraltar i will be very embarrasing of my country. Long livd the queen
Hable español sin verguenza ni pena. Y no olvide que la UE consideró a Gibraltar como una "Colonia de la Corona" si es que GB decide de una vez por todas terminar su salida del bloque sin acuerdo "No Deal". Ud. vive en un Estado que fue colonizador, supongo que ya tiene una idea de cómo los reinos colonialistas se manejan y manipulan personas y recursos a su favor, en detrimento de los pueblos y tierras ocupados. Un poco de conciencia, por favor.
@@armoredspain7053 esas dos ciudades NO figuran como territorios en descolonización para la ONU. y si así fuera, nada impide que GB haga lo mismo con Gibraltar, que sí es colonia.
We fought a war against invaders so that the name could stay as 'The Falkland Islands'. You wouldn't call south of america 'the confederacy', would you?
@@sircoloniser5454 the UK claim is not fairer than the Argentine one, as both UK and France-Spain-Argentina sides established by the same time and always showed interest on the islands. What I'm going to say may sound weird, but I'm not a brainless nationalist and I'd like the fairer solution to actually happen, and I think that would be spliting the land on two equal sides, one for Arg and the other for the UK.
Lets put it this way, the Islanders are more British than the British. If Argentina wants those Islands they would basically have to commit mass displacement of the natives, i.e a lesser form of genocide, to get it. And on that note, I find you calling them settlers extremely insulting. It's like calling Native Americans settlers. Not a single indigenous group had lived on the Island, the British were the first people to settle the Island which makes them the natives.
They're genociding themselves as we speak, the majority of the population on the island are super old - the younger ones are looking to leave/already left. They're importing people mainly from latin America, due to lack of young able natives.
The Falkland Islands are a very interesting place, as are the Falklanders themselves. Their country looks lovely, and I'd love to visit Stanley and other parts in the nation.
the Irony Argentinians are not indigenous to Argentina, mostly Spanish, Italian, German and even some Welsh. Where as the Falklanders are indigenous , what does indigenous mean, the 1st people, the 1st settlers. So under the UN stipulations ,who vow to protect indigenous people and self determination, Argentina simply has no legal claim, the indigenous people of the falklands wish to remain part of Britain.
The Falklands have been a British overseas territory since before Argentina existed. If anyone has a claim it’s Spain and France. 😂 just because some islands are 500 kilometres from your coast doesn’t mean you can stake a claim.
With all due respect, the claim comes from 1833, (cause we had population on the islands since we got our independence) and in that year the crown sent a ship to kick us out (after failing twice to invade buenos aires)
Nicolas Herrero the British claimed the falklands in 1765 the argentine pirates didn’t step foot in there until 1820 Argentina wasn’t even a country until 1810 so yes the British were there before Argentina was a country and Argentina’s illegal claim from 1820 is irrelevant the guy didn’t even live there for longer than 6 months it would be like me going to Argentina on holiday staying there and then claiming it as British
Dios Mio,, Drew! I was reading data on small colonial cultures, and here you are! I had friends (Argentine) that were injured and sickened in the war. Feelings are that this archipelago is indeed Argentine, but since Argentina was Spanish, and they disposed of the native population, the islands are really independent. Great to see they are thriving, and if there's golf, it is most like Scottish anyway! Vaya con Dios!
my father fought for this island on the british side as a british gurkha army.I used to watch falkland war video tape as a kid just to see a short video clip of my father fighting against argentinians.My father was only 16 then.
@@ivanexell-uz4mv He says his Father was only 16 when he was deployed to the Falklands. The recruitment age of the British Army is 16 yet to actually be DEPLOYED it's 18. No exceptions, they check.
@@ivanexell-uz4mv In 1980? How could they have lied? Gurkhas are Nepalese, they need a passport to enter the UK, meaning they would LITERALLY HAVE NO WAY OF FAKING THEIR AGE. You could have maybe faked your age if you were native to the UK but the Gurkhas aren't
@Drew Binsky I am so happy to see that you enjoyed your trip to our little island. I am also glad to see that you helped to educate people on the islands heritage. 😊
And this is why it will stay British. I'm not even from there but if you're more patriotic than an actual Brit (me). U deserve to stay with us. We love you Falkland Islanders ❤
Don’t tell everyone how lovely this place is...sunshine on Christmas Day, white sand beaches, loads of wildlife, beer, friendly locals, clean pollution free air, no stress.
It’s not las malvinas it’s the Falkland s and that’s its only name It’s not an ongoing dispute they are British territory with British citizens. There’s nothing to dispute. There’s no other indigenous culture because the British are the indigenous culture. The island was uninhabited before settlement
Argentinian Mapper 23 tell that to the harrier jets and Royal Marines in 1982😂😂😂. Outnumbered, outgunned and still fucking beat you. Absolute joke country.
communist argentinian Mapper you already did lmao, and you got put down. Why am I even talking to a third worlder looool, go cry in your Spanish wasteland.
I am from Colombia. I do recognize that the Falklands are British and always will be. They, the islanders do deserve to be respected by the rest of the world and their right to have their self-determination. God bless the beautiful Falklands.
The reason they seem more British than Britain itself is because they are Victorian citizens: one of the only Victorian settlements left in the world that still have their old traditions and interaction with each other.
@@eirinnmurphy8348 They are descended from Victorian settlers, and as they are an island with very little contact from the outside world, they still sound Victorian and still have Victorian values, but back in the mainland UK, things have changed a bit.
@@specialunit0428 ahhh I get you. Sadly that isn't true, we don't sound or act victorian. Just that woman in the video does. There's a very specific 'kelper' accent. I don't know how to describe it. It's quite nasally, and subtly a mix of English, Scottish and slightly kiwi sounding at times.
Of course they surrendered, I love Argentina buts it’s laughable to even think they had a chance. It’s like me thinking I can knock out a silver back gorilla. Falkland Islands are British, the natives are British and so shall it remain
At 0:18 seconds you show a wonderful bay. When I was at that exact location nearly 20 years ago you could also see the landmine detonators poking through the sand. Are they still there? The largest living thing that frequented that beach were penguins as they weren't heavy enough to set them off. A great way to ensure you're not disturbed whilst raising young :).
Y desde cuando tú tienes LA VOZ de los chilenos? seguramente también te gustaría que la isla pobre de Chiloé, fuese británica no? y me arriesgo también a pensar que poco escuchas a Victor Jara y a Violeta Parra. No soy de chile, ni de Argentina. Soy de latinoamérica. Sabes lo que es eso?
@@edgardogonzalez8802 otro chileno aquí, yo también concuerdo con @iodescilla1246 . No se por que mencionaste a Chiloe, nunca estuvo en una situación parecida a la de las Islas Falklands/Malvinas, El Archipiélago de Chiloe es cultural y territorialmente chileno. tampoco se por que mencionaste a Victor Jara y a Violeta Parra, como si reconocer que las Islas Falklands/Malvinas son culturalmente y territorialmente británicas te quitara lo chileno. muy raro el comentario que dejaste, mas raro aun considerando que no eres ni chileno ni argentino.
Very nice video about the Falklands culture. But theres a mistake on war ... ' Argentina invaded the islands and 3 days later, the British showed up on ships and fought a bloody battle over 10 weeks' 3 DAYS LATER! Did the British use spaceships of something? I think it took the British Navy 3 weeks to a month to reach the Falklands. This islands are about 8,000 miles from England, its impossible to sail there in 3 days.
It's like peering into British history, when I hear my grandad talk about how peaceful Britain used to be and how everyone was friendly and loving this is what I imagine, The United Kingdom is in a sorry state compared to this beautiful country, I'd like to thank the inhabitants for keeping the true British community spirit, it's fascinating and one can only hope this sort of life returns to Britain, one day.
I'm an archive librarian whose main area is 19th/20th century UK societal and pop culture history. Hate to burst your bubble but the idyllic Britain your Grandad talked to you about absolutely did not exist for all bar the wealthier middle classes in the UK. People lived under a hugely suffocating regime of intolerance and compliance to an unwritten code of lifestyle. In working class areas, a young man with any ambition of an education would rarely be encouraged and would be viewed by the residents of his street has having fancy notions above his station. A father of such a young man would be 'encouraged' by the neighbours to 'bring him down a peg or two' while any young woman who went that bit extra with her appearance, trod a very dangerous line of being labelled a hussy. Once that badge was applied, it could haunt a woman for the rest of her life. Indeed, up until the 1920s in many working class communities in the UK, a woman would be expected to cover her hair with a shawl. Only a harlot would wear her hair loose. People most certainly weren't friendlier either. In most working class communities, violence was such a common occurrence that the police didn't intervene unless someone was killed or close to it. Disputes were frequent and were usually settled through violence. If a neighbour gave you a beating, you sucked it up and the next time you met them on the street, you doffed your cap and showed that 'friendliness' your Grandad told you about. It wasn't uncommon for the matriarchs of the street to advise a young newly wed husband to 'let his young bride know whose boss' from an early stage. And yes that meant beating her into shape just for things like not washing the front step or wearing her hair in a fancy style, or having a hemline just that little bit shorter. Basically anything that made the middle aged women of the street frown with disapproval. Any rebellious young couple who tried to defy such restrictions could find themselves homeless and jobless if they weren't careful. Any glance through the pages of the local newspapers held in the British newspaper archive would shock any 21st century reader fed on notions of how wonderful community life was in pre 1955 Britain.
@@TheGiantKillers I should probably give some background on my family to counter your argument, We're bumpkins mate! what you are referring to sounds like a major city issue and not so much a countryside thing, it was the farm and then the pub for family entertainment for us working class and rarely you had an asshole come along like the ones you mentioned above. I can assure you there was far less domestic abuse than you claim! I think what you are referring to actually describes the upper classes and drunkards better than the average brit pal, not all of our ancestors were violent women beaters, in fact I'd argue the majority were not. There is no way you can convince me the mass building of estates and retail premises has made my little part of Britain a better place, with it has come far more violence, "Diversity" and crime.
@@jason6848 Indeed, there is no way any individual can convince another that nostalgia impacts our perception of history. And I suspect you wouldn't be interested in any documentary evidence I could present to support my counter argument. As with any opinion, the onus rests with the individual themselves to challenge the strength of their belief through research of the subject matter. No opinion on any subject carries any value until it has been studied to see if it 'stacks up' so to speak. If you genuinely want to test the weight of your opinion, my recommendation would be to research the papers of Margaret MacMillan whom, I've found to be the leading and most knowledgeable 20th century historian of any I've had the pleasure to study under.
@@TheGiantKillers I could cherrypick a million more anectodes of the absurdity and cruelty of modern life than you ever could in the 1960's-1990's period - many of which being the new opposite of those injustices you listed
The only argument Argentinians have for the Falklands is their proximity to them, which by their logic Chile should have complete control of South America
And on top of that, the Patagonian coast near the Falklands is only Argentine because the Argentines committed genocide against the indigenous people to get it.
the falklands were uninhabited before settlers, so the settles are the indigenous culture
"white people can't have culture" - SJW
So the french who first established are the indigenous?
edit: I no longer give a fuck so don't respond.
The French settlement at it's peak had 75 people and civilian and even if it didn't have them, the French soldiers would count, the Montevideo convention says that the population must be permanent not civilian
edit: I no longer give a fuck so don't respond.
@@joaquinaugusto625 The french settlement was a whaling outpost that was only manned half the year. In the winter they went to Guyana
its owned by whoever can take them. if the french want them (or Argentina) feel free to try.
damn that lady sounded more british than the queen
*messi* *wants* *to* *know* *your* *location*
K F C
Old Guard huh. Ian American. We have only lost 1 War lol
Have you ever been to england? You can find lots of old ladies who sound like that
deadmanandermanRBLX Queen Victoria was a Hanoverian
Probably more British than London.
Blither box London isn't British anymore mate
not just london....
Blither box Washington DC is overrun with liberals and Mexicans
No probably about it.
As a Londoner myself I agree with you; the Falklands are more accurate to the common British image than even London
"I don't see any traces of indigenous culture" this island was uninhabited when Europeans came. THEY ARE indigenous culture.
Esclavistas asesinos cuando caiga USA, se les acaba y ese día van a empezar a pagar, todas las fechorías que han hecho en el mundo.
@@anunakissts1153 it seems you are some butthurt Argentinian. Why do you even care for barren islands which Argentina controlled 200 years ago? Stop dreaming, you lost 2 wars, do you want to lose another?
@@kalyptro123 The funny thing is that Argentina never even controlled the islands.
@@Daneclaw no they had it. As a viceroyalty of La Plata but then British took it back. But that doesn't even matter today. Everyone there is British and they want to remain British. Why to start a war for some useless rocky islands where everyone living there is your enemy? No point. Also for the bankrupt and corrupt Argentine government the similar war like previous is not affordable at all.
@@anunakissts1153 lo que tienen que hacer es ver que hacen con la corrupcion que tienen.
1:16 the Britons (arguably alongside the French) are the first settlers and indigenous to the Falklands. If someone said "Britons return home you colonials" the modern Falklanders would look in confusion as the first settlers to the Island were Anglo like people. They are native.
agreed but I also think the Falklands are more British than London.
@@Snow_Dog-px1qu probably true lol
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 I don't mean to go ape shit, but I read a Guardian article about how its still their island in their minds.
Eso es falacia, hoy 2023, se est'a confirmando actualmente que los nativos de la Patagonia lo usaban la isla.
@Sims 3 Forever Dude we're talking about human not life in general.
The British Falklanders ARE the indigenous culture. There were no people there until Europeans arrived.
Jeff Morse that is false in fact. The islands were under argentine rule till 1833 when England kicked the argentine population by force (at that time there was a peace treaty between the two countries)
@@pabloorqueraisa8898 This is a lie. The Falklands were already owned by the British at that time. A foreign businessman based in the United Provinces of the Río de la Plata established a settlement in the Falklands with the permission of the British government. The UP government then illegally gave this businessman the title of governor, and he took to committing acts of piracy against American sealing ships, presumably to enforce his monopoly on that industry. The US Navy retaliated, and a small Royal Navy force restored law and order in 1833. They wanted to keep a viable settlement there, so they paid the South American workers to stay. The only people expelled were a UP military force that had illegally established themselves there - and that was mostly made up of British mercenaries. Argentina has no valid claim.
Jeff Morse actually Argentinians are Europeans too.... they’re of European decent. You refer to the British as simply British and not the Europeans, because then it gets confusing
Greedy Capitalist It wasn’t a businessman you thicko.
@Christian Nogueira Harper what do you mean were we still are dick head😂🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
You've got to love how their local beer is called the Iron Lady 😂
Oi oi dont let the north of England see that
Iron Maiden
you mean the milk snatcher
Jajaja dont worry soon we come and replace your beer with Yerba Mate jajajaj 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
@fpsMaverick hahahhaha he didn't expect that. Respect
I've lived in the UK my whole life and I've never heard someone with more of a British accent than that Falklander native.
Where in the UK?
It's more of an English accent. Welsh and Scottish accents are also British, but this one is clearly English. Great Britain together with Northern Ireland forms the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, abbreviated to the UK, to which you can add Irish to the aforementioned accents. Hope this helps.
@@pussypostlethwaitsaeronaut8503 Thanks for the education lol. English is also British. Hope this helps! (You can’t say it’s not British because it’s English - think about how little sense this makes!). I’m English, but I’m ALSO British!
whats a british accent??? no such thing.
@@2595220 yes, there is actually. I think you are saying because the accent varies throughout the Britain. All of those variants are still British accents.
There is a distinct Kelper accent. But many islanders come to the U.K. for secondary school education. They once went to Argentina but their illegal 1982 occupation put paid to that.
-They settled first
-Britain won a war
-The population are all of British settlers
-The population wants to become British territory
Argentina : "Nah, idfc it's still mine"
Edit : Yes, the first settlers are the French, but, they got it in competition with the Argentines first, that's what I meant.
But it was a different period, now it's against the international rights, it's like say well so return India to UK becouse it was conquered by British soldiers
just like y'all occupied India, Australia, and so on? The eternal anglo.... always coming up with theirs tricks teached by the j ews.
Pde Jews have nothing to do with the UK.
Just because yer all jealous that your countries weren’t as successful as the UK.
Also......
A bit unfair to Anglo when speaking about the British People especially how the island is made up of 4 kingdoms.
Argentinians are too greedy, just ask a Chilean.
@@GodiKiIIroy okay I was wrong
"Could you just give them the islands"
"No"
"Ok here have some weapons"
Lmao oversimplified
Ah a man of culture.
@@kalamugam-drastrakishansla8629 then the spanish got off because Pope line on map and money but then the english came back and they had more guns so they kicked them off the islands lol.
@@kalamugam-drastrakishansla8629 Actually not true. English captain John Strong made the first recorded landing in the Falklands, in 1690
@@kalamugam-drastrakishansla8629 debatable about who discovered them and they've definitely been British since 1690 anyway
1:16 "I didn't notice any traces of an indigenous culture" They are the indigenous culture.
there was though, the Yámanas had a presence on the islands, they mostly died out from plague but they still existed.
The penguins were the indigenous culture
Go back to playing cs:go or sum... u prob live in the middle of London so I don’t really know why you fucking care so much about islands in the Argentinian Sea
@@juanmorley5388 why do you care so much about some islands in the argentinian sea? Oh yeah your still as salty as the argentine sea since we kicked of our idlands sll those years ago
@@_su0p Bruh are you sure you’re British? Cuz u ain’t even writing correctly and I only partially understood what you said, basically another “ooh why do you care about the islands we stole from u ooooh”
If no one lived there before the settlers, then the settlers and their descendants are the natives.
all cultures are native in south america, where do you find argentine culture outside argentina? Same thing to say that the culture of Portugal is not native to the Iberian peninsula because the lusitanian tribes were dominated and shaped by the republic of Rome. English culture is not native to Britain because Anglos stole territory from Britons
@@dicitencellovoyais7914 English culture is a mixture of a lot like French, Norse, Germanic, Celtic and probably a lot more
The British isle has had many invaders and has invaded many places to just say it came from Germany is simplifying it to much
(Ik I sound pushy hear or something I just mean this as a statement and not a way to have a go at you)
@@dicitencellovoyais7914 not exactly, there WERE indigenous people in Argentina before the Spanish arrived.....
@@paulmarchant9231 There were indigenous people on the British Isles before the arrival of the Angles
@@dicitencellovoyais7914 No there wasn't. The French and Spanish were there but left.
who else gets fascinated by places with rugged terrain and minimal human habitation?
Vedant Capoor me!!!!!!
Me too. Very few ppl are like us
@@moorland6735 ikr
It looks like my kind of country. Watching videos like this and reading Rex Hunt's memoirs has really given me the urge to visit the Falklands one day.
Yup
The British do not just have "influence" over the Falklands Islands. The Falklands Islands are British islands. The British own the Falklands Islands. Those islands are overseas British territories. The British exercise sovereignty over those islands. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Actually there were no indigenous people before the British so it’s rightfully theirs, it’s free real estate
Just like the meemay
Because nature reserves don't exist and uninhabited territory claims like bikini atoll don't exist
Nah it was sertled by Spaniards from the viceroyalty of La Plata.
@@SpanishDio the first settlement was french and then a British one.
Stop spreading lies
@@the_dropbear4392 no, sorry, it's written in the "Archivos de Indias de Sevilla" 'Indian files of Sevilla' for you, they have everything about The Spanish Empire in the Americas and the commerce between Spanish mainland the American territories, and it's written that settlers from the canary islands (Spain) and the viceroyalty of la Plata (Spanish Argentina) already were in las Malvimas (claimed by Spain before anyone) beeing fishermen and Having farms with cows.
As an Argentinian, there is one way to know the owner of the islands. The one who obtains them by war, colonization, interchange or money. And England is there from 1830, Argentina wasn't even a nation. The fact that the Islands are closer to Argentina than the uk isn't an argument. There are plenty of cases around the world like Canarias Islands, St Helena, Easter Islands, the virgin islands, etc. And here in Argentina we have a colonization history as well, the Patagonia was full of natives and we just started going down and killing those people, and same with Paraguay. But what else can we wait from cheap nationalism?
The people are British. Period.
¿Y con la porción de la antártida reclamada que hacemos? Porque ellos no quieren compartir.
2:23
@@luciano2003. La Antártida no pertenece a ningun país. La gran mayoría de los países no reconocen ningun reclamo de territorio en la Antártida.
@@dougules Quiero ver eso a futuro...
@@luciano2003. Un reclamo de territorio antártido es sólo más imperialismo.
It's kinda funny as well that some of the Argentines living on the Falklands voted to stay as part of the UK in the referendum. I think that says something.
Cuantos argentinos? Es fácil si votaban en contra perdían sus trabajos.
@@oscarbosio9881 Tal vez hacen las cosas de manera diferente en Argentina, pero en los territorios británicos, incluidas las Falklands, tenemos boletas secretas. Y en el caso del referéndum de las Falklands, fue supervisado por observadores de varios países diferentes que certificaron que la votación fue justa. No todos los argentinos son guerreros imperialistas, algunos de ellos claramente prefieren el estilo de vida libre y civilizado de las Falklands.
@@greedycapitalist8590 Mira yo no discto que hayan decidido permanecer en Malvinas.es lógico el 99% son britanicos o descendientes de británicos. Lo que digo es que dicho referéndum es ilegal ya que no se acepta en un territorio que las Naciones Unidas consideran colonia y en disputa.aparte de tener la gran mayoría ciudadanía británica.ni en este ni en otros casos. Es sentido común. Apsrte busca el padrón y decime cuantos argentinos votaron y que hacen en Malvinas. Por mad que insistan esa consulta popular solamente existe para Gran Bretaña.no para el resto del mundo. Para terminar fijate de que paisrs eran los observadores internacionales.no hay que ser muy inteligentes para saberlo.Para terminar hace años que vivimos en democracia el voto es secreto y universal y no mantenemos una monarquía.
@@greedycapitalist8590 Te contesto. Acá en Argentina vivimos en democracia desde hace décadas, el voto es secreto y universal.En el caso del referendun vos sabes bien que no es ilegal, ya que la Organización de Naciones Unidas considera a las islas un territorio en disputa, por eso y otros motivos no reconoció ese referendun, No corresponde el derecho a la libre determinación ya que la población de la isla fue trasplantada en su totalidad por el Reino Unida tras su ocupación por la fuerza en 1833.siendo controlados los movimientos migratorios, cuya demografía crece por las necesidades económicas y administrativas del gobierno colonial. A su ves los isleños no son un pueblo preexistente, son súbitos del Reino Unido y muchos ciudadanos de la metrópolis. Decis que fue supervisado por observadores, si es verdad, de paises a los que se les convenció para que asistan tras la visita del primer ministro británico y fueron muy pocos , los de siempre, mas algunos que se agregaron, como uno se puede imaginar.La consulta fue dirigida por Brad Smith de EEUU ( el principal aliado de G,B en la guerra de Malvinas) y solamente asistieron observadores de Canadá, Chile ( otro aliado de G,B. al que la reina le dio gracias por la ayuda prestada tras la detención de Pinochet en Londres) , Uruguay, Paraguay y Nueva Zelandia. Votaron solamente 13 argentinos que estan trabajando allá y lo hicieron por una necesidad económica, nada mas (ver declaraciones de varios de ellos en visitas a Argentina cuando se les preguntó al respeto) En cuanto a guerreros imperialistas, me parece que no te conviene meterte en este terreno, si hay un pais imperialista, colonialista, que ocupó gran parte del mundo y aún mantiene colonias, que hizo del tráfico de esclavos algo habitual, que sometió a sus conquistados es Gran Bretaña, y no Argentina, pero bueno se nota que tenes una visión muy parcial de la historia y no te juzgo. No te ceras que por esto tengo rencor alguno, pero hay cosas que no tolero y necesito aclararlas, no me interesa si las toman o no, pero las dejo a consideración de quien quiera. Para terminar Argentina es un pais libre y civilizado que ha hecho muchísimos aportes a la humanidad.
@@oscarbosio9881 El británico no ocupó las Falklands por la fuerza en 1833, esta es una de las muchas mentiras que a sus maestros se les paga por promover. Parte del crecimiento es aprender a no confiar en la autoridad. Pregúntese por qué su gobierno dedica tanto tiempo y dinero a tratar de convencer a la población de que las Falklands de alguna manera pertenecen a Argentina. Te están adoctrinando para la próxima guerra.
No hay absolutamente ningún requisito en el derecho internacional para que los referéndums sean supervisados por las Naciones Unidas; estoy seguro de que los referéndums en Argentina no son supervisados por la ONU, y lo mismo es cierto en el Reino Unido.
Llamar a los Falklanders una "población trasplantada" es una de las mentiras de propaganda estándar de su gobierno, y una mentira que es inherentemente racista. Dado que muchos Falklanders descienden de personas que han vivido allí desde principios del siglo XIX, no están más "trasplantados" que tú. Por otro lado, hay un país que quiere implantar una población en las Falklands, y es Argentina.
Espera que se le permita a Argentina ejercer el derecho de autodeterminación expresado a través del proceso democrático, y sin embargo, se niega a reconocer el derecho de sus vecinos a hacer lo mismo, así como usted, ¿quién es el imperialista?
The British didn't show up 3 days after the argentine invasion it took the British task force of 100 ships 3 weeks to reach the Islands.
The kelpers are just dirty peasants. Second class citizens. Some without land just like the Jews. In good weather you can fish in Bluff Clove. Beware of unexploded mines.
@@Pablo-wf6ev Awww we spanked your butts hard. I know it's hurts go cry to mommy.
Lee Taylor the British empire is the largest genocide in all history
@joe caterman it was a series of unfortunate events. It wasn't that the British sent mixed signals, it was that the British never really cared about the islands way before that. It is said that during WW2 Churchill said that if the argentines occupied the islands, islanders were on their own, because the UK wasn't going to go all the way down there to defend a few shepherds. The thing was that Thatcher's popularity was so low at the time that she needed that boost, she had been doing horribly and people started to hate her. And in Argentina it was sort of the same, people didn't really give a crap about the islands but the government tricked to do so through propaganda, because they too needed a popularity boost and thought the islands would be an easy and quick way of reassuring themselves.
You could say the British ended argentine dictatorship, and argentines should be thankful for that.
@@VidelaArg how is that related that's an entire different story and no it was the Chinese under Mao Zdong. The British Empire did commit genocide and exploited natives, however the Brtish empire died a long time before the invasion of the falklands. Therefore are you just here to troll?
When the Argentine economic is poor or unemployment is high, their respective governments will bring up the whole Falklands dispute as a distraction.
we are not that silly, we have real internal problems, Falkands doesn't affect our daily lives.
Seguramente en Gran Bretaña son tan honestos su políticos que cuando hay una crisi como la que tienen actualmente nunca buscan distraer al pueblo. Si no es así fijate como usó la reina el conflicto de Malvinas en provecho propio ya que en ese momento su gobierno estaba en plena crisis. Esto lo usan todos los gobiernos del mu do, no te creas que es un invento argentino.
BlueDragonscale That doesnt change anything. Your government constantly brings the Falklands dispute to light to cover up your more important economic problems. And thats a fact.
oscar bosio yo a vos te vi en otro video puede ser? Ósea en los comentarios
@@Wasaviveros Si, puede ser. Saludos y cuidate.
Argentina still salty about Falkland War, schools in Argentina keep teaching their students that Islas Malvinas is Argentinian but "Occupied by British", every official map in Argentina still contains Islas Malvinas.
its kind of sad how indocrinated the people of Argentina are
@@littleshep5502 Couldn't it be the British who are indoctrinated?
Oh come on, even the united nations recognize the falkland islands as a colony, the faklands are a British colony
@@danielarango3401 they see it as a country that isn't fully self governing, due to Britain still having influence and them not choosing to be completely integrated into the UK. However Britain isn't teaching the same line from elementary school upwards of the "islands Britain stole from us" despite them never actually owning them and their claim being baseless
@@littleshep5502 Well, basically British Empire heritage doesn't count in this case.
It is still a bone of contention today in
Argentina the anniversary
of the war is a massive part of Argentina culture
& a red button topic both politically & also socially in Argentina to this day.
In Argentina they have talked about trying to take the Falklands buy force again let them try is what
I say.
1:15 british culture is the indigenous culture
@Thomy-sama UwU lol no
Nope.
Thomas Uzumaki Piris Da Motta fuck off
@@jipagola Latin american boy getting angry, What a shame that you cant have a BRITISH island.
@@andrewhall2096 Dude, stealing an island does not make it yours, does it? Go do your thing somewhere else, not in South America!
Let's be clear about something. The islands might be irrelevant strategically, but 3000 very British citizens live there. If 3000 British people were held hostage by a foreign power, we'd go to war to rescue them. In 1982 we sailed to the other end of the earth, not because Argentina took our rock, but because they took our people.
Hey hey, easy broh
U were not born dude
That's absolute bullshit. They didn't care about the people, they care about its absolutely non irrelevant strategic position. The Falklands belong to Argentina and England took them by force.
RadioactiveSand when have Argentina ever had any territorial rule over the Falklands.
@@dod6031 As soon as Argentina got its independence from Spain, because the islands were under spanish sovereignty before it.
As an Argentinian myself I would love to go the Islands and ask people about their experiences that 2nd of April. I've heard hundreds of stories of argentinian soldiers in the TV, movies and even at school. I've also heard of a lot of British soldiers' experiences in documentaries, but no one ever talked to me about the civilian stories.
si bro
@If it ain't woke,don't fix it Cowars, they were 16-20 years old boys, forced to go war
@@yahyabahsh669 la unica cosa que Argentina tiene es un gobierno de mierda
@If it ain't woke,don't fix it omg u have 2 iq
George N todos con Cristina!!! Viva Perón!! Y a ver, decime, vos de donde sos ?
The people of the Falklands say they’re British, they were the first civilians to the islands, thus they’re British.
@@gody9516 Sea Argentina la heredera o no, los británicos llevan más de 200 años habitando esas islas, manejando sus recursos, designando autoridades, expandiendo su cultura, cuidando de su gente, intercambiando recursos, etc. Y el 99.8% de la gente en las Falklands se considera Británica, no importa la proximidad geográfica en la cual se encuentren las islas a la costa argentina, o si se suponía que las íbamos a heredar, la realidad es que la gente que vive allá es 110% británica, y la tierra es de ellos. Proponer la deportación de los residentes de la isla sería algo increíblemente extremista y en contra de derechos humanos básicos, es su tierra, así como más allá de ser parte de Argentina Rosario es mí tierra, y sería atentar contra mis derechos básicos deportarme de mi propia ciudad.
Todo eso sin mencionar la sangre que se derramó en conflictos por las islas, en las cuales, recordemos, Gran Bretaña se levantó victorioso (lo cual debería dejar de lado cualquier discusión sobre soberanía, como país decidimos ir a guerra por las islas y perdimos, aceptamos esos términos y esas reglas y perdimos dentro de ellas, no tenemos más reclamos disponibles para hacer porque no nos vimos obligados a ir a la guerra, sino que como país lo decidimos). Decir que las Falklands son o deberían ser argentinas sería como decir que Taiwan debería ser parte de China por proximidad, sin tomar en cuenta el deseo local de independencia de la población de Taiwan, es una medida muy arbitraria (sólo que le tendrías que agregar el paso de que Taiwan en vez de querer independizarse querría anexarse a alguna fuerza externa, como por ejemplo ser parte de las Filipinas).
* Disclaimer por las dudas, más allá de que hayamos ido a la guerra bajo el gobierno militar de Galtieri, los militares tenían apoyo de ciertos sectores sociales y un porcentaje importante (si bien puede discutirse que no era mayoritario) de la masa del país, una dictadura sin apoyo popular no se mantiene. Ni hablar de que los militares eran exactamente igual de fascistas que Perón, sólo que en vez de enmascararlo como democracia y valerse de la propaganda y ciertos otros métodos de manipulación de masas (los cuales también estamos presenciando a día de hoy en una menor escala con políticos como Fernández y Kirchner) usaban métodos más directos y sin tantas vueltas, pero al fin y al cabo eran iguales, sólo que Perón se posicionaba considerablemente más a la izquierda al ojo público, lo cual en realidad tampoco era 100% verdadero si uno se lo pone a investigar.
@@gody9516 speak English no Falklander can understand you
No, french and spanish, argentinian en 1813 are expulsed to Montevideo for british
Before the British settlers, Argentine gauchos lived, who were expelled to Buenos Aires
Remember, Argentina broke UN resolution 502 with their illegal invasion that started the war. They also broke direct contravention rules of war, by firing upon British troops from a clearly marked Argentinian hospital ship.
England talking about illegals invasions? Hypocrisy
Triggered much? LOL
Don't forget the fake surrendering that they used to kill a British officer
What about you guys trying to invade buenos aires twice in early 1800's and failing? So you went ahead i 1833 and kicked us out of the island to try to hide your failure. And dont talk about warcrimes when you forced argentine POWS to carry munition causing the death of 3
Or making the only civilian deaths by your brute undiscriminated shelling
2:42 He shows Argentina and the UK,but the ship has Turkish flag
XD
Thats what im saying. This guy doesnt know what the fuck he is even talking about.
@@francosamuel4028 he probably couldn't find any other picture to describe it ok, just accept that people make mistakes.
Good spot
Loool
I remember the Falklands war. The Islanders have strong bonds to The UK and are culturally British. They were occupied and had their homes invaded by the Argentineans. Thank goodness the UK had a strong prime minister at the time that quickly ordered the task force to liberate the Islands.
She gets more credit than she deserves for the Falklands. Any Prime Minister would know it's political suicide to not retaliate.
It probably helped her in the 1983 election.
etoipiplus1237 Indeed it did. Thatcher was incredibly unpopular in the early 1980s. But it wasn’t Labour- it was another party, called the SDP-Liberals that were polling miles ahead of both parties. Some polls showed them being 25 points ahead of both the Tories and Labour. But after the Falklands, thatchers popularity skyrocketed and she won in 1983 with a massive majority.
Margaret Thatcher is a disgusting embarrassment of a leader. Falklands was the only good thing she did.
Corbyn wouldn't have done a thing
This feud makes Korea and Japan's feud over Dokdo sound like a spring picnic.
it's not a country drew it's a over seas territory of britan
It still can be called a country easily. It's not really a big deal.
They're self-governing. They elect their own government and make their own laws. They're arguably more autonomous than England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Greedy Capitalist “Scotland, Wales and NE. Not England
@@jacobmeade1045 That's "NI", not "NE". And are you seriously saying England is more autonomous than the Falklands? England doesn't even have it's own parliament!
@@greedycapitalist8590 I would agree, England is far less autonomous than the Falklands...
but to say because England doesn't have it's own parliament? UK parliament is British parliament and it doesn't matter what the other smaller UK nations are inclined to do, England outnumbers them all and basically, controls parliament.
UK parliament IS English Parliament and everyone else there is just along for the ride on the back benches.
2:42 that's a Turkish battleship
Dou (argetina words)
"Wait a second, this aint Istanbul.."
Lol
Yes it is
Yeah you’re right! There’s a Turkish flag on it
I worked there since 2014 until May of 2018 and your right it's very peaceful. You can leave your home unlock, leave your key in the car, you can walk in the mid night and no one will take advantage on you. The nature, the wildlife, and the view are all stunning!
I hope someday in the future more travel blogger will notice this beautiful islands and try to visit this lovely country.
Probably because there's no nehroes?
The British sovereignty of the Falklands Islands is not in dispute. The entire World recognises that sovereignty. Only Argentina does not, which is a failure already. The Philippines supports the British sovereignty of the Falklands Islands. Rule, Britannia! 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭✝️🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
With the state of the Argentinian military, the Falklanders would have an easier time invading Argentina than the other way around.
Well considering Chile is a close Allie of Britain, because chilli would have been the target of the Junta if they had not attacked the Falklands instead. Learn some history my friend.
Carlos Rodriguez Chile ever since the Falklands war has been an ally of the U.K. as they denounced the Argentines just because you think something doesn’t mean the rest of your country does
In all reality your probably an Argentine pretending to be from Chile
@Carlos Rodriguez Well if you think i'm talking about supporting the Junta then you clearly didn't understand my comment. They would have attacked Chile if it did not try to take the Falklands. is what I said.
@Carlos Rodriguez Gracias hermano!!! Chile y Argentina Hermanos
🇦🇷🇨🇱
Ouch man that hurts
But you're probably right
Falkland Islands are British. Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
Clipperton es de Francia así como Texas, California, etc.. de estados Unidos 😎
@@luciano2003. no te preocupes, nosotros lo aceptamos, hay que aceptar que si Texas, Nuevo México, California, etc fueran estados mexicanos, no serían lo que son ahora.
@@enriquebautista5701 bueno esa es la razon de porque ustedes estan como estan con la mayor delincuencia de america la mayor guerra contra el narco que haya existido y la mayor pobreza de america desparramada por ee.uu canada y sur america
@@asg9238 jajaja si eso te hace sentir mejor bueno, solo expresé mi apoyo a Reino Unido porque son SUS islas, ustedes no tienen derecho a reclamar nada
@@enriquebautista5701claro que si son nuestras las heredamos geofraficamente y por derecho colonial ademas de que poblamos primero las islas antes que los britanicos a los cuales estos HDRMP no les dejaron decidir si ser controlados por argentina o gran bretaña por lo tanto eso agrava aun mas todo y seguro no lo entendes porque tu pais nunca combatio una guerra fuera de su territorio pero a los argentinos que tenemos el mejor ejercito de america latina que no perdio ninguna guerra de todas las que lucho si nos importa es cuestion de orgullo guerrero
It's incredible to see such a remote place where people settled so recently. It must have been terrifying being the absolutely only people when the first few settlers got there!
You forgot to mention that the Falklands were British before Argentina even existed as a country.
Then they were French, then Spanish, and went Spanish lost the independence War in the continent, the Malvinas were belong by Argentina and there was a fricking administration of arg in there until UK invaded it again, so yeah, drew just skipped a lot of details
@@Soytinza no lol. Research the subject
@@Frosty469 He did it. France and U.K. reach the islands about the same time, and both established settlements, then France ceded the place to Spain and they to Argentina. So we have at least the same right to claim the territory that the U.K. Am I wrong?
@@betelgeuse7322 Wrong, The French gave Spain their part of the Island, then Britain got kicked off, THen they came back, then a thing called napoleon happened and the revolutionary war, Spain and the UK had to leave the Falklands so it was unowned for a bit, then some guy from Argentina went to the Falklands with permission from Britain and Falklands to set up a private buisness venture not owned by either side, then Argentinian confederation declared him govonor, Britain came down and kicked them off the Island, then it was ours ever since minus the war, witch we won.
Argentina exists since 1816. They claimed the islands but were poorly inhabited until in 1833 British came and the rest is history...
"I didn't notice any traces of an indigenous culture" Yeah, because there was never any.
Yes there was, the falklanders are the indigenous population
The british are now indigenous to the falklands.
These people actually are indigenous
The Selk'nam
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Hey Drew, cheers from Buenos Aires!
The sovereignty of the islands is a very controversial topic, at least here in Argentina. I found the way you approached to the war itself very interesting, as well as the culture there. Talking about politics, both the argentinean and the british government are making amazing progress to identify the fallen soldiers in the war and bring them back to their countries. So far, they achieved to repatriate the body of an argentinean soldier buried in the islands since the war's end. I hope this is the first of many collaborations between Argentina and the UK.
Thanks again Drew! ✌🏼You rock
I'm British and old enough that I grew up at the time the war happened and it's aftermath. Here in the UK the Falklands are still a pretty hot topic and when May spoke with your president, people were getting very worried she was going to give them up like she has pretty much done with Gibraltar the week before.
When ever I have spoken to any British servicemen who served during the war, they all talk of the bravery of your soldiers and are disgusted how their officers left them to rot and die. I admit I have a very strong dislike towards the attitude of your previous governments at using the islands as a way to distract you when things are going really bad. I hope one day that all the family members who lost their loved ones in the war, can get them back on their home soil.
I'm just glad that another attempt on the islands is not impossible, as the loss of life would be so pointless. Our countries are better off just moving on from the past (and the cheating in the 86 world cup) and let these people live their lives in peace.
There’s nothing for it to be controversial about, it’s British end of.
You really had to make that peaceful and respectful comment a debate right?
Joaquin Augusto but it’s true it’s British 100%
If it was true then the UN an organization which the UK is a founder member wouldn't say the opposite
Doesn't matter, he says it in a condesendent way that's the problem
Argentina never had the islands, they have no claim to them either. The people on the island are 100% British because the British are the only people to have colonised them. The Islands were British before Argentina ever existed.
Argentina has no claim whatsoever over these Islands and have no right to make such claims. It is insulting beyond belief to Britain, when Argentinians even so much as talk of this matter.
Britains have died over Argentina’s ignorance and arrogance. It is inconceivable that any of them would still dare to bring this matter up again. They should know that Great Britain will ruthlessly fight them if they ever try to return again. It is British soil.
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the british occupied the islands on 1833, fucking idiot
Why Argentinians still want those islands back? Nearly everyone of those people is British... let them stay with the UK...
@@gody9516 yeah ok , but all the people there are British. All. They are British and wanna stay with Britain. Why should they be forced to be in Argentina?
@@gody9516 I think if those are British and wanna stay with Britain they should be able to do that. And by the way as for now it's highly unlikely Argentina will be able to take them
@@gody9516 if we talk like that then all non natives should be expelled from the Americas or they should stay under Natives' rule, since they arrived first
@@gody9516 El mundo pertenece a los vivos, no a los muertos del siglo XIX
Argentina: Falkland islanders are British colonial settlers despite the fact they have lived there for hundreds of years
Also Argentina: We are proud to be descended from Italians and Spanish settlers.....
All those Argentinians that are arguing in the comments seem to have no response to this 😂😂
@@LiCorbin They are massive hypocrite what did you expect? They love bashing the British as imperialist when the Argies themselves were racist colonist as well.
@@longwlenguyen4214 yeah I find it funny how the argies demonise us for our colonialism yet pretty much everyone there are descendants of spanish colonists
@@LiCorbin I guess ego can be a very dreadful thing, and also the current Argentinian government sucks, their economy in utter ruin, their sense national pride were humiliation could be a contribution to their weird obsessive mentality. More ironically the island were a conflict between Spain and Britain, long before Argentina were even a country.
@@longwlenguyen4214 yeah and there are apparent talks that argentina might want to take the islands again but their military hasn't recovered at all since they last tried whereas ours has only improved 😂
I hate when my teachers almost cry because falklands aren't ours. I don't see german teachers getting angry because they don't own the rest of Prussia or Alsace-Lorraine, or french ones because they don't own algeria.
lmao
They're just butthurt they lost a war. You have a landmass that stretches like half the length of South America and you're not happy until you get a tiny little set of rocky Islands? It's always for political reasons butthurt Argentines want to claim it.
@@DeadlyDan Extreme nationalism always causes the worst disasters I'd say
Well, I cry because Germany doesn’t have Prussia
Y yo odio que existan pelotudos como vos.
Is the beer called Iron Lady after Margaret Thatcher?
I would think so
Who else haha
lmao
Yes. Want to drink me?
I was looking at that. When I served there we only had a choice of two beers McEwans or Heineken, which we referred to either a Red or a Green (Can) when ordering at the Mountain Bar.
With a 99% vote i’d say they’re pretty british
Actually it´s more complex than that. The UN doesn´t validate souverignty from that. In any colony. They are british because in 1833 the Brits invaded it and threw out the argentine settlers and governor. And the islands stayed british because they won the 1982 evitable war. If the UK and the US wouldn´t run the west with their bully-like colonisation policy the war wouldn´t have even existed, cause the UN recognized a conflict in 1965, asking the UK to solve it with Argentina. Which, of course, it never happened. Brits are so superior and entitled to invade and colonise...
Not 99%, 99,8%, that means that only like 5 or 6 people voted to be part of Argentina xD
@@eurofan0136 it was 1513 votes for britain, 3 votes for argentina
@@T0M_X Oh sorry only 3 xD
They are less than 4000 people living in a territory bigger than Jamaica who the fuck cares what they think, one day and a small army can slaughter them like sheep
We argentines know that war was just a distraction from a cruel dictatorship, and all politicians made an excellent job at making us feel that Islands should belong to us just because its close to us
Exactly! Thank you for showing me that there are people that have sense in this situation, personally I think the Falkland Islands 🇫🇰 should become independent so neither of us get them.
No querido. La dictadura fue producto de un complejo operativo de endeudamiento y destrucción, particularmente apadrinado por Gran Bretaña y USA. La guerrilla Latinoamerciana fue el detonante de falsa bandera para la instauración de dictaduras TÍTERES. A la Argentina la hicieron pisar el palito. La Guerra empezó meses antes cuando un contingente británico tomó las Islas Georgias poco antes de la guerra. Las islas estaban bajo control efectivo de la Argentina desde los setentas. Reporteros de guerra de la BBC de Londres llegaron a Buenos Aires un mes antes del desembarco de abril del 82 en Malvinas. Evidentemente hay cosas que no se están contando en su totalidad. Sería bueno que los ingleses suelten el archivo de Estado sobre esa guerra que ya se debería haber liberado después de 30 años pero prorrogaron por algunas décadas más. ¿Porqué será?
Pobre tipo tu ignorancia me da tristesa
JUST LIKE THE WAR ON TERROR IN US
@@sron-adharcach950 IT'S MALVINAS 🇦🇷
Would gladly re enlist to defend the Falklands they are British.
I hope the Argentinians reclaim the Falklands so you can die 8,000 miles away for colonialism.
@@thadiussean9133 8,064 miles. we are a nuclear power so good luck 1 sub could win a war in a day.
and i have no grudge to Argentinians or there soldiers they was following orders. what country you from may i ask.
@@jameshartley6161 i am like a magnet for trolls its like they crawl from under ther bridge to message me lol.
Same
Thadius Sean your just angry that the British had a empire while Argentina had just a nazi \ communist regime in power. Anyway if the Argentinians invaded again the British would win south because of better equipment and better training and all of Argentina’s fighter jets are old soviet ones
This looks like a an amazing place to visit. Thanks for teaching us a new destination
That's not a great place to go if you are in South America. Argentine Patagonia has so much more to offer.
In Uruguay we support Great Britain.
The Falklands are British! 🇫🇰 🇬🇧 🇺🇾
Regards
Provincianos rebeldes.
@@luciano2003. rebeldes son los británicos que los acostaron a dormir en las falklands 😂😂😂
@@sergio_lopez Fuaaa tan lento es el internet en tu provincia?? Sin los ingleses no existirían, son un estado tapón para evitar tensión entre Argentina y Brasil.
@@luciano2003. qué va a andar lento el internet ... acá vuela. Capaz que en hambrentina tambien, les falta comida pero internet por ahora siguen teniendo 😅
The only thing Argentinian about the islands is the landmines that were left behind.
And you know the native people, the first colonaisers and the continental shelf
Emiliano Cichanowski there was no native population
@@Aron-ru5zk the native population is the British settlers as they were first there
@@jakesalter8844 ecxept if you count the fueguiño people who often emigrated ther around 1600-1800
@@emilianocichanowski7894 That makes no sense considering the Islands were entirely unoccupied
Looks very beautiful. I'm glad you are all happy there! I respect your self determination. Greetings from Argentina.
Yo quiero las islas y también soy argentino.
@@luciano2003. Argentinos dolidos😂
@@ellanoteama5296 Como vos con Vietnam.
@@luciano2003. Argentino pobre dolido😂
@@luciano2003. Eso no me duele pobre argentino
Not surprising that you found no indigenous culture as there never was an indigenous people that lived there.
The British ARE the indigenous people in the Falklands because they were the first ones to live there
@@Bruh-ji3jk That is false, and you cannot be indigenous if you come from a powerful country already in 1800, it is not as if you were far from globalization, you come from it. Geographically the islands are from Argentina, the people are another matter
@@Willingtomb none of what you said makes any sense
@@gorbachevspizzahut It means that you are not a native of the island, you are a native of the United Kingdom, before there were English people living there, there were already Argentines and Uruguayans
@@Willingtomb Actually the Falklands were totally uninhabited, that's the point, the first people to ever be born, grow old and die on that Island were British, they are the natives.
My wife & I stopped at the Falklands on Apr. 3rd, 2008, on a cruise, one day after the 26th
anniversary of the start of the Falklands War of 1982! Port Stanley is a far away 'slice'
of Britain, similar to the town on the Rock of Gibraltar! It was great to visit an "bit of
England' so many thousands of miles away!
Oh boy I’m British
BILLY GET THE POPCORN!
Nevermind the popcorn, who is this Billy that you speak of?
madhavyu Billy Mays maybe
madhavyu only drew's fans will understand
🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
@@billy-ps7jz lol
I've always wanted to visit the Falklands, hopefully I can someday. much love from England.
*Falkands* : *Exists*
*British people* :
*ITS JUST LIKE HOME*
It's free real estate
100th like!
JackHas4.6MillionLegs the British empire is the largest genocide in all history
@@VidelaArg how does that relate to my comment
Xd
To all the angry argies the first people to discover the islands was the British in 1690 the first people to build a town on the island was French in 1764 and the British made a fort on it in 1765 the French gave there territory to Spain and in 1771 the Spanish gave the territory to Britain who in 1775 left the island but left a plauqe claiming it as a British territory its rightfully British as Argentina only gained independence in 1820
The section about the conflict was pretty inaccurate. The British didn't "show up 3 days later" but they sailed off to the Falklands (which was pretty quick already) after roughly that time and took several weeks for the voyage.
And the fighting was not "mainly around Stanley" but in many places in and around the archipelago.
That's why the islands need to be shared. It would still take several weeks to sail to these islands, from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. You could get there in just a few hours, from the Republic of Argentina.
@@gradysvacationsandnaturewalks
I don't see this as a valid reason.
The locals who run those islands with high autonomy want no such sharing. And looking at the Argentinian economy, Argentina can't even manage herself properly - which was the reason why the junta chose the Falklands as a distraction from their awful repressive policies and stagflationary misery.
@@notroll1279 So you don't see sharing as valid? That's actually horrible. You have no problem with sharing Antarctica with 6 other nations, including the Republic of Argentina, and the neighboring Republic of Chile. Sharing is always valid. We all live on this Earth. We all need to learn to share this Earth. And the Republic of Argentina has managed itself quite properly, in many ways. The UKGBNI could be managing themselves better too, in many ways.
Full disclosure: The islands need to be a shared territory, end of discussion.
@@gradysvacationsandnaturewalks
The locals have spoken in more than one referendum - and since your opinion is not terribly relevant, I see no point in discussing this with you, either.
@@notroll1279 Locals schmocals. Ever heard of French Guiana? It's only culturally French. Just like these islands. Look, you don't have to like sharing, but people don't habe to like you, either. Again, the islands must be shared. I provided valid points, and never said the British points are invalid. End of discussion.
John Davis an Elizabethean navigator discovered the Falkland Islands in August 1592.
Bougainville (the person): It's free real estate
No, was Esteban Gómez in 1520.
@@javieryabante6730 aaaand here we go with the Spanish bullshit
The Grey Pilgrim actually it's disputed whether it was him or a Dutchman called Sebald De Weerdt who saw them first, but the first to actually LAND on the Falklands, officially record doing so and lay claim to them was John Strong in 1690
www.britannica.com/place/Falkland-Islands/History
Never refer to her majesties property as Islas Malvinas again
soon to be caliphate property
Reasons for British claim to the falklands:
Found them first
Settled them first
They won a war over the islands
The population wants to be British overwhelmingly
Argentina’s reasons for its claim:
They close to argentina
@James Smith 1690 we found them first and the British settlers still inhabit the islands and have been there since 1767
@James Smith through the power of google I can prove you wrong
@James Smith Nah you’re the liar liar pants on fire, the brits first claimed them on February 2, 1594.
that’s a pretty big one though..if China finds an uninhabited island north of UK and settles it, is it theirs? This is such a colonizer mentality to just take an island thousands of km’s away from your state beause you found it.
@@vantaluxxx By that logic, Argentinians should go back to Spain
I hope no fellow argentine read this but.......as an argentine myself i wish the Falklands to be kept British ........
Y viendo esto difícil decirles que ahora son argentinos, pero es que tampoco son británicos si ya van por la quinta generación, el problema recae en la reclamacion de la Antártida que por los términos esas islitas valen un montón
Oops I’m guessing that means they found you
You didn’t escape lmao
@Elgus
How strange...!
May I ask why?
2:42 i can’t believe turkish involved with this conflict too
Turkey was never involved
@@aymansharif370 He’s being sarcastic, it’s because there is a Turkish flag on the ship.
Haha, ive just realised
@@yourlocalgovna8999 Oh, but the ships looks similar to our ships xd
It's not an 'ongoing dispute'. The Islands are British.
Top man COYI
UN says otherwise...
@@nachoqualsevol554 Well the UN can lick the tip of my bellend! There are British and always will be.
@@MrNewyork1975 go to NY and show it to the GA of the UN.
@@nachoqualsevol554 Show what? My Dick? 😂😂
One of the best videos you ever made! The montage is very good, nice job!
Argentina wants to know your location
Bougainville (the person): *Allow me introduce myself*
Your Location; Falklands
What are they gonna do about it? 😂😂
Deja de boludear pibe hay que recuperar las islas Malvinas
Oooo sorry big man but I beleve that Argentina still hasent recovered from that war whereas the British has though in the Iraq war since.
Great video, great insight into the Falklands. I’m English and would love to visit some day. The Falklands will always be British 🇬🇧
Do it, dude... They're worth it. They're BEAUTIFUL, great vistas, nicest people ever... a little piece of England in the Southern Atlantic. Love the place,love their people.
That' exactly what Argentinians say...
@@GeorgeHargensen1 you were right!
@@jipagola not what the peoples of the Falkland’s say😉
@Francesco Zhou they wish 😉
The British people settled there long before Argentina was even a county so they belong to the British not Argentina
Damn right they do we won em too so they’re 100 percent ours
by force it is yours, but it does not belong to you, it was from the Kingdom of Spain and with the independence of Argentina it was from Argentina, literally the islands are next to it. If we talk about being countries, first that you belonged to Spain and then to Argentina with its independence, it is known that when you first arrived there were already people living there, but they hide that truth
@@Willingtomb everyone who who lives there wants to be British, that’s why it’s British. They has a referendum less than 10 years ago
Malvinas se dice invecil
Agreed, if Argentina try to lay claim and take the Falklands again then we’ll kick them harder then in the 80s its so interesting to see a population that seems more patriotic then actual England
siendo latinoamericano y también mitad inglés. Puedo decir que esta isla pertenece al Reino Unido.
Im spanish, i fully defend the british falklands ideas and same with gibraltar, if my country attacks gibraltar i will be very embarrasing of my country. Long livd the queen
Hable español sin verguenza ni pena.
Y no olvide que la UE consideró a Gibraltar como una "Colonia de la Corona" si es que GB decide de una vez por todas terminar su salida del bloque sin acuerdo "No Deal".
Ud. vive en un Estado que fue colonizador, supongo que ya tiene una idea de cómo los reinos colonialistas se manejan y manipulan personas y recursos a su favor, en detrimento de los pueblos y tierras ocupados.
Un poco de conciencia, por favor.
@@nachoqualsevol554 si tanto quieres gibraltar devuelve ceuta y melilla
@@armoredspain7053 esas dos ciudades NO figuran como territorios en descolonización para la ONU. y si así fuera, nada impide que GB haga lo mismo con Gibraltar, que sí es colonia.
Sos un traidor, las malvinas son argentinas y gibraltar es español
@@communist_argentinian que sabras tu de gibraltar, te has leido el tratado de ultrech FIRMADO POR UN ESPAÑOL?
We fought a war against invaders so that the name could stay as 'The Falkland Islands'. You wouldn't call south of america 'the confederacy', would you?
Bad comparison
The confederacy lasted nineteen times longer
Yeah we also fought a war against invaders, the ones who invaded us in 1833. Sadly we lost.
@@betelgeuse7322 correction reclaimed their land
@@sircoloniser5454 the UK claim is not fairer than the Argentine one, as both UK and France-Spain-Argentina sides established by the same time and always showed interest on the islands. What I'm going to say may sound weird, but I'm not a brainless nationalist and I'd like the fairer solution to actually happen, and I think that would be spliting the land on two equal sides, one for Arg and the other for the UK.
@@betelgeuse7322 the people voted 99.98% to remain British, they are British, end of
The Falkland Islands is not Malvinas!
a very beautiful island with amazing nature you feel in England kisses Brazil🇧🇷🇫🇰💕
the land reminded me of my country - wales
newzeland always welcome there bring your brother
haha from the United Kingdom 🇬🇧
Lets put it this way, the Islanders are more British than the British. If Argentina wants those Islands they would basically have to commit mass displacement of the natives, i.e a lesser form of genocide, to get it.
And on that note, I find you calling them settlers extremely insulting. It's like calling Native Americans settlers. Not a single indigenous group had lived on the Island, the British were the first people to settle the Island which makes them the natives.
They're genociding themselves as we speak, the majority of the population on the island are super old - the younger ones are looking to leave/already left. They're importing people mainly from latin America, due to lack of young able natives.
@J Mansfield I'm whatever I feel like, I look more euro than euros themselves. I identify as half chilean/swedish and that's that. Cheers!
@Meli Half Chilean Swede You're not whatever you feel like. That's not how it works. You simply are what you are, you have no choice in the matter.
Creo que de genocidio, teniendo en cuenta la historia colonialista de Gran Bretaña, no te conviene hablar.
The British have committed such acts in so many countries. This is karma for them
The Falkland Islands are a very interesting place, as are the Falklanders themselves. Their country looks lovely, and I'd love to visit Stanley and other parts in the nation.
Las Malvinas No son un país.
Falkland's Tuesday News: *A drunk local cause havoc last night*
Everyone: "Damn it, Charlie's at it again."
the Irony Argentinians are not indigenous to Argentina, mostly Spanish, Italian, German and even some Welsh.
Where as the Falklanders are indigenous , what does indigenous mean, the 1st people, the 1st settlers.
So under the UN stipulations ,who vow to protect indigenous people and self determination, Argentina simply has no legal claim, the indigenous people of the falklands wish to remain part of Britain.
More British than britan
Thanks for the likes
yes
Certain fact
Sad but true.
@Sown Intergral955 I'm your dream, make you real..
to true my son.... to true
The Falklands have been a British overseas territory since before Argentina existed. If anyone has a claim it’s Spain and France. 😂 just because some islands are 500 kilometres from your coast doesn’t mean you can stake a claim.
With all due respect, the claim comes from 1833, (cause we had population on the islands since we got our independence) and in that year the crown sent a ship to kick us out (after failing twice to invade buenos aires)
@@soflam4276 The attempted invasions of the Rio de la Plata region took place before Argentina was a country, so are irrelevant.
@@jaredbowhay-pringle1460 they are not irrelevant because it shows how desesperate the UK was to have a foothold in the south Atlantic
@@soflam4276 they are irrelevant because it has nothing to do with this
Nicolas Herrero the British claimed the falklands in 1765 the argentine pirates didn’t step foot in there until 1820 Argentina wasn’t even a country until 1810 so yes the British were there before Argentina was a country and Argentina’s illegal claim from 1820 is irrelevant the guy didn’t even live there for longer than 6 months it would be like me going to Argentina on holiday staying there and then claiming it as British
The first British settlement was established in 1766 and not "in the beginning of the 19th century".
They just put a stone a called a settlement, then in 1833 they invaded back and kicked out the argentinean population
@@leoflorida95 There wasn't an argentine population, there was a tiny military garrison
Most of the settelers arrived in the early 19th century with the arrival of the Chelsea pensioners
Dios Mio,, Drew! I was reading data on small colonial cultures, and here you are! I had friends (Argentine) that were injured and sickened in the war. Feelings are that this archipelago is indeed Argentine, but since Argentina was Spanish, and they disposed of the native population, the islands are really independent. Great to see they are thriving, and if there's golf, it is most like Scottish anyway! Vaya con Dios!
my father fought for this island on the british side as a british gurkha army.I used to watch falkland war video tape as a kid just to see a short video clip of my father fighting against argentinians.My father was only 16 then.
Found a liar
@@gubgub3275 how do you know he’s lying tho, that’s the interesting part
@@ivanexell-uz4mv He says his Father was only 16 when he was deployed to the Falklands. The recruitment age of the British Army is 16 yet to actually be DEPLOYED it's 18. No exceptions, they check.
@@gubgub3275 That is strange but people lied about ages in the first and second world wars. But that’s still strange but for a smaller war
@@ivanexell-uz4mv In 1980? How could they have lied? Gurkhas are Nepalese, they need a passport to enter the UK, meaning they would LITERALLY HAVE NO WAY OF FAKING THEIR AGE. You could have maybe faked your age if you were native to the UK but the Gurkhas aren't
@Drew Binsky
I am so happy to see that you enjoyed your trip to our little island. I am also glad to see that you helped to educate people on the islands heritage. 😊
0:56 sounds like England to me
Zain Asif yep
What a piece of argument
Its like having a witness on a trial. You need more than that.
It does
And this is why it will stay British. I'm not even from there but if you're more patriotic than an actual Brit (me). U deserve to stay with us. We love you Falkland Islanders ❤
Don’t tell everyone how lovely this place is...sunshine on Christmas Day, white sand beaches, loads of wildlife, beer, friendly locals, clean pollution free air, no stress.
I wanna know you
It’s not las malvinas it’s the Falkland s and that’s its only name
It’s not an ongoing dispute they are British territory with British citizens. There’s nothing to dispute.
There’s no other indigenous culture because the British are the indigenous culture. The island was uninhabited before settlement
They are called malvinas and they are and allways were ours
Argentinian Mapper 23 tell that to the harrier jets and Royal Marines in 1982😂😂😂. Outnumbered, outgunned and still fucking beat you. Absolute joke country.
@@communist_argentinian There yours? Come and get them then you Argie filth, I dare ya!
@@jameshartley6161 we will, u will see we will, we will fight that bunch of dumb imperialists who took our land
communist argentinian Mapper you already did lmao, and you got put down. Why am I even talking to a third worlder looool, go cry in your Spanish wasteland.
I am from Colombia. I do recognize that the Falklands are British and always will be. They, the islanders do deserve to be respected by the rest of the world and their right to have their self-determination. God bless the beautiful Falklands.
Everyone happy till an Argentine comments here
Fuck you, pirate
I bet the one dislike are Argentinians. Because of the Falklands War.
@Mats LP i understand.
They hate nepali too because of this war
And Maradona took their revenge
@@gauravshrestha6522 They ? do explain
@Dave we helped britan to win the war so
The reason they seem more British than Britain itself is because they are Victorian citizens: one of the only Victorian settlements left in the world that still have their old traditions and interaction with each other.
@Juan Ignacio Davidson Of course it is worth the time! Though I am ashamed to admit that I haven't been there :(
I'm so confused at what you mean, if you don't mind can you explain?
@@eirinnmurphy8348 They are descended from Victorian settlers, and as they are an island with very little contact from the outside world, they still sound Victorian and still have Victorian values, but back in the mainland UK, things have changed a bit.
@@specialunit0428 ahhh I get you. Sadly that isn't true, we don't sound or act victorian. Just that woman in the video does. There's a very specific 'kelper' accent. I don't know how to describe it. It's quite nasally, and subtly a mix of English, Scottish and slightly kiwi sounding at times.
@@eirinnmurphy8348 An honour to be taught accents by a Falklands native :)
Of course they surrendered, I love Argentina buts it’s laughable to even think they had a chance. It’s like me thinking I can knock out a silver back gorilla. Falkland Islands are British, the natives are British and so shall it remain
Very interesting video. I didn't know much about the Islands & what they get up to, so this is good to know.
Even the landscape itself looks like the uk! Reminds me of the Scottish islands!
Shetland Islands? 🏴
You are blind.Colonial Britain is illegaly occupied the island. Free Islas Malvinas🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
@@hashiratanjirou get off them drugs and sort out Argentina first before sticking your dirty nose where know one asked you.
HA
@@hashiratanjirou
Royal Marines go brrrr
At 0:18 seconds you show a wonderful bay. When I was at that exact location nearly 20 years ago you could also see the landmine detonators poking through the sand. Are they still there? The largest living thing that frequented that beach were penguins as they weren't heavy enough to set them off. A great way to ensure you're not disturbed whilst raising young :).
They are all cleared now. Hopefully
We Chileans want the Falkland Islands to remain British forever. 🇨🇱🤝🇫🇰
Y desde cuando tú tienes LA VOZ de los chilenos? seguramente también te gustaría que la isla pobre de Chiloé, fuese británica no? y me arriesgo también a pensar que poco escuchas a Victor Jara y a Violeta Parra. No soy de chile, ni de Argentina. Soy de latinoamérica. Sabes lo que es eso?
@@edgardogonzalez8802Yo soy chilena y el chico representa totalmente mi opinión jajaja 🤣
@@edgardogonzalez8802 otro chileno aquí, yo también concuerdo con @iodescilla1246 .
No se por que mencionaste a Chiloe, nunca estuvo en una situación parecida a la de las Islas Falklands/Malvinas, El Archipiélago de Chiloe es cultural y territorialmente chileno. tampoco se por que mencionaste a Victor Jara y a Violeta Parra, como si reconocer que las Islas Falklands/Malvinas son culturalmente y territorialmente británicas te quitara lo chileno. muy raro el comentario que dejaste, mas raro aun considerando que no eres ni chileno ni argentino.
Me alegro que halla ganado la izquierda, ojalá les valla mal a estos ratones
@@edgardogonzalez8802Exactamente, habla por todo su país 💀
Very nice video about the Falklands culture. But theres a mistake on war ... ' Argentina invaded the islands and 3 days later, the British showed up on ships and fought a bloody battle over 10 weeks' 3 DAYS LATER! Did the British use spaceships of something? I think it took the British Navy 3 weeks to a month to reach the Falklands. This islands are about 8,000 miles from England, its impossible to sail there in 3 days.
Britain sees warm tropical islands Britain goes nah Britain sees rainy hilly rock with cold and damp weather Britain 🇬🇧 COLINISATOIN 💯
jacob sharpe lmao
jacob sharpe What about Australia
@@YangSing1 aka British penal colony
When Britain saw any island they always pretty much said "We'll take it".
British Virgin Islands. Bermuda islands, Jamaica , Trinidad, the list goes on.
"Sheep spearing"
I'm dying bro haha (shearing).
It's like peering into British history, when I hear my grandad talk about how peaceful Britain used to be and how everyone was friendly and loving this is what I imagine, The United Kingdom is in a sorry state compared to this beautiful country, I'd like to thank the inhabitants for keeping the true British community spirit, it's fascinating and one can only hope this sort of life returns to Britain, one day.
I'm an archive librarian whose main area is 19th/20th century UK societal and pop culture history. Hate to burst your bubble but the idyllic Britain your Grandad talked to you about absolutely did not exist for all bar the wealthier middle classes in the UK. People lived under a hugely suffocating regime of intolerance and compliance to an unwritten code of lifestyle. In working class areas, a young man with any ambition of an education would rarely be encouraged and would be viewed by the residents of his street has having fancy notions above his station. A father of such a young man would be 'encouraged' by the neighbours to 'bring him down a peg or two' while any young woman who went that bit extra with her appearance, trod a very dangerous line of being labelled a hussy. Once that badge was applied, it could haunt a woman for the rest of her life. Indeed, up until the 1920s in many working class communities in the UK, a woman would be expected to cover her hair with a shawl. Only a harlot would wear her hair loose. People most certainly weren't friendlier either. In most working class communities, violence was such a common occurrence that the police didn't intervene unless someone was killed or close to it. Disputes were frequent and were usually settled through violence. If a neighbour gave you a beating, you sucked it up and the next time you met them on the street, you doffed your cap and showed that 'friendliness' your Grandad told you about. It wasn't uncommon for the matriarchs of the street to advise a young newly wed husband to 'let his young bride know whose boss' from an early stage. And yes that meant beating her into shape just for things like not washing the front step or wearing her hair in a fancy style, or having a hemline just that little bit shorter. Basically anything that made the middle aged women of the street frown with disapproval. Any rebellious young couple who tried to defy such restrictions could find themselves homeless and jobless if they weren't careful. Any glance through the pages of the local newspapers held in the British newspaper archive would shock any 21st century reader fed on notions of how wonderful community life was in pre 1955 Britain.
@@TheGiantKillers I should probably give some background on my family to counter your argument, We're bumpkins mate! what you are referring to sounds like a major city issue and not so much a countryside thing, it was the farm and then the pub for family entertainment for us working class and rarely you had an asshole come along like the ones you mentioned above. I can assure you there was far less domestic abuse than you claim! I think what you are referring to actually describes the upper classes and drunkards better than the average brit pal, not all of our ancestors were violent women beaters, in fact I'd argue the majority were not. There is no way you can convince me the mass building of estates and retail premises has made my little part of Britain a better place, with it has come far more violence, "Diversity" and crime.
@@jason6848 Indeed, there is no way any individual can convince another that nostalgia impacts our perception of history. And I suspect you wouldn't be interested in any documentary evidence I could present to support my counter argument. As with any opinion, the onus rests with the individual themselves to challenge the strength of their belief through research of the subject matter. No opinion on any subject carries any value until it has been studied to see if it 'stacks up' so to speak. If you genuinely want to test the weight of your opinion, my recommendation would be to research the papers of Margaret MacMillan whom, I've found to be the leading and most knowledgeable 20th century historian of any I've had the pleasure to study under.
@@TheGiantKillers I could cherrypick a million more anectodes of the absurdity and cruelty of modern life than you ever could in the 1960's-1990's period - many of which being the new opposite of those injustices you listed
The only argument Argentinians have for the Falklands is their proximity to them, which by their logic Chile should have complete control of South America
And on top of that, the Patagonian coast near the Falklands is only Argentine because the Argentines committed genocide against the indigenous people to get it.