STAR WARS™: The Old Republic™ - 4K ULTRA HD - ‘Betrayed’ Cinematic Trailer

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  • @johnaplin9848
    @johnaplin9848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3240

    This game is proof that Star Wars can still be great when the correct amount of time, dedication, and effort is put in

    • @Scrubique
      @Scrubique 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Just hope they're not gonna mess up new kotor. There isn't much to mess up, but they've shown with new trilogy that they can do it.

    • @cinemagraphymahivara2000
      @cinemagraphymahivara2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Gold words

    • @lancefontenot9333
      @lancefontenot9333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      To true, the only thing that makes it a bit hard for me to play, other than the fact that I don’t have a computer, is that it is an MMO. Other than that I absolutely love the time period, the different stories, the RPG mechanics, the art style, and there is a ton more.

    • @Lord_earth
      @Lord_earth ปีที่แล้ว

      when greedy effective managers are not at the helm with the intention of getting 7000% profit at zero costs - then normal things are born. Games in particular

    • @robertenglish3921
      @robertenglish3921 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't get it I am mad genius all the time 💙 wish some of those old deep marine stuff stayed looking like faibles I am sorry

  • @mattcrawford5215
    @mattcrawford5215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +665

    I always found her method of fighting so interesting, the way she retracts her lightsaber and only uses it for a quick kill is something you don’t see in any other Star Wars media

    • @PriyankaSingh-jw9ug
      @PriyankaSingh-jw9ug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      she uses a lightsaber form prohibited by Jedi because Jedi code and the sith because it doesn't channel the dark side

    • @no-bodymr6419
      @no-bodymr6419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@PriyankaSingh-jw9ug I mean they weren't Jedi, why they have to follow Jedi rules?

    • @MoraCat666
      @MoraCat666 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      ​@Jeremy Miller "to defeat sith" "a true jedi master" She is an zakuulan force user goddamit, what are you talking about

    • @NoBuddy89
      @NoBuddy89 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Jeremy Miller I get your point, but that part of the universe/galaxy had no concept of Jedi or Sith.

    • @kc3reo
      @kc3reo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@PriyankaSingh-jw9ug Not exactly. Trakata was the art of activating/deactivating to trick the opponent or catch them off guard. One example would be feigning catching a slash, but deactivating your blade, causing the enemy to stumble, leaving them wide open. Or slashing and quickly deactivating then activating the blade to bypass defense. It's a mindgame style.
      That's not what Senya is doing here. She just turns off her lightsaber so she can beat the hell out of them.

  • @MikeSidious
    @MikeSidious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3751

    Unbelievably brilliant. Still just as entertaining and intriguing as the day they were released. Kudos to everyone who worked on these magnificent works of art.

    • @teabaganyone7830
      @teabaganyone7830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I remember when the Disney sequels got glowing accurate reviews like this.. wait a minute..

    • @tywillis2395
      @tywillis2395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@teabaganyone7830 Back to the salt mines with you!

    • @teabaganyone7830
      @teabaganyone7830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@tywillis2395 😆 that would be the less painful option then ever having to see leia go all Mary Poppins in space again

    • @igorbog88
      @igorbog88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      nobody at the developer or publisher involved with the game made these cinematics

    • @tywillis2395
      @tywillis2395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@igorbog88 No one here said game devs worked on it

  • @darthraptus289
    @darthraptus289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4364

    I know they said they are done with them, but I’d love to see a new cinematic.

    • @RB-NZ2
      @RB-NZ2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      Where’d they say they were finished making them

    • @MikeSidious
      @MikeSidious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I'd love to see a brand new one and I'm sure I'm not alone!

    • @Andrew_-nr7zt
      @Andrew_-nr7zt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@RB-NZ2 same but my guess is Twitter

    • @khalduras784
      @khalduras784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      @@RB-NZ2 it wasnt stated anywhere. Its just an assumption because cinematics are expensive as all hell and since ea budget for swtor these days is quite limited, its logical for them to just put more money developing content for the game

    • @Sell_Inch
      @Sell_Inch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In my story everybody died. they can't come back ^^

  • @admkiwi
    @admkiwi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1875

    What a fantastic trailer. A storytelling masterpiece. Unmatched to this day.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Indeed

    • @eoghanlacey6384
      @eoghanlacey6384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s not a masterpiece now that’s overkill

    • @Necro-s
      @Necro-s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine getting another one

    • @donspider1
      @donspider1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Much better than than the latest films

    • @ridgefrost
      @ridgefrost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@donspider1 literally better than the entire third starwars trilogy

  • @UntrainableWizard
    @UntrainableWizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1234

    This may honestly be my favourite of the trailers. It's a complete story told in an entirely understandable way, and it's only 6 minutes long.
    It's also just drop-dead gorgeus to look at.

    • @joebeast15
      @joebeast15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Barely any dialogue too. Still managed to tell a more engaging and interesting story than the entire sequel trilogy combined. I’m not just saying that to be edgy either, that’s a fact. They had an over budget between the three movies of close to a billion dollars and they were total garbage.

    • @Xerkrosis
      @Xerkrosis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And has the best fight-sequence in it, which is then topped again by itself for being an one-shot.

    • @runenorderhaug7646
      @runenorderhaug7646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The sequel trilogy syffered just as much as a result of fans reacting to it intiatily. We know the intial script of the final episode was in fact better but because of the reaction to tlj they actually went with the worse one. Ironically a lot of the fan reactions to TLJ were in my opinion a midquel problen that in fact wpisode 5 also intially had and sadly a midquel dies and lives on its final one.
      The sequel story is much more subtle for some people than perhaps it should have been and it is connected with the original stories in a deep way and at times that took the counter effect despite it actually being exactily what fans were asking for(including doing similar scenes to the original trilogy which fans asked for but then when they did do that they were criticized for it). It is a story of the effect that the originals had on the outer rim and the consequences in many ways that had for those who played a role in it and for those who didnt including both the generation afterwards and the outerrim and how even good things can indirectily cause negative things that lead to problems within society that leads to groups rising up and trying to return to piwer the exact groups they fight aganist.
      I would definitely suggest reading some of the journey to the sequels book including "Phasma" as though much of these elements were clear to me when i first saw them, their elements especially through characters like Cardinal and the narrative around him make it even clearer and it really interconnects with a understanding of what led groups like the first order to rise up even more.

    • @Tonatheos
      @Tonatheos ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​​@@runenorderhaug7646 you really just wrote that entire comment defending a story created by Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy with the sole purpose of being as marketable and safe as possible, and then later ruined by a narcissist who wanted to imprint his ego and "twist" style on a midquel where it wasn't warranted
      The original episode 9 script was good, but everything that preceded it was terrible and needed several novels and comics and tie-ins just to compensate for the lack of direction
      Don't give lazy greedy businessmen a pass just because one talented filmmaker/screenwriter (Trevorrow) and a few novels tried to clean up the mess that should never have been messy to begin with

    • @runenorderhaug7646
      @runenorderhaug7646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tonatheos I mean to be honest it is less about defending the final movie then it is really about recognizing our influence and presumptions that created interaction between both groups in how different groups thought it was going. Part of this is because I literally experienced the things I talked about while the movies were being released especially when it came to initial reactions to the last jedi.
      I experienced many of the thoughts I expressed and discussed with it then later saw those confirmed in the books. To me as I said the themes were clearly there for me, but they weren't for others. So really it can just as much be taken as a thought on how you get certain themes out too and the problems that occurs including in what makes a bad movie

  • @lizzybizzy7159
    @lizzybizzy7159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +962

    This makes me hate Tenebrae/ Vitiate/ Valkorion even more, turning a young child into a deranged monster. The real monster was Tenebrae. It also makes me feel even more bad for Senya. Imagine having to face your child whom you believe you failed on the battlefield. A mother fighting her own children is the worst thing.

    • @rpsyco
      @rpsyco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      One of the reasons I enjoyed pissing off and killing Koth is because of this. The man consistently spoke of how great Valkorion was despite everything Valkorion had done.

    • @lizzybizzy7159
      @lizzybizzy7159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@rpsyco Koth was a straight sycophant. Honestly, his death was deserved. People who follow a mad man to a cliff will follow him off of it without question.

    • @nitzan3782
      @nitzan3782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Agreed. I have nothing but sympathy for his family. We saw what he did to the Empire. Imagine growing up in his shadow, or have him use your own children against you.

    • @rangerslayer2260
      @rangerslayer2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meanwhile my DS5 f!Knight was all 'Valky say, Valky do' until his betrayal. I did murder the rest of his family in a blind first run.

    • @lizzybizzy7159
      @lizzybizzy7159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@nitzan3782 see Disney? This is how you write a villain.

  • @XiyuYang
    @XiyuYang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2633

    Better storytelling and character development in 6 minutes than the entire sequel trilogy combined

    • @twraoylnledyou8511
      @twraoylnledyou8511 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Same comment. Different video. Never fails

    • @emperorholocron8278
      @emperorholocron8278 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@twraoylnledyou8511doesn’t make it any less right though

    • @mariadelpilarescalante9433
      @mariadelpilarescalante9433 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I always wondered why this clips are way better than the actual films.

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@Twraoylnled You Disney shill?

    • @randallmart92
      @randallmart92 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mariadelpilarescalante9433Very expensive to make i hear. Same with Square enix movies like Kingsglaive FF15. Beautiful movie and all but definitely not cheap.

  • @Vemonus92
    @Vemonus92 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Even though I know nothing about these characters, I still feel their emotions and how much better they are than the sequel trilogies

    • @Valkyraw
      @Valkyraw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      theres a pretty good story behind this.
      her father is basically the terror of the universe, the black eyed sith tenebrae or widely known as the immortal emperor.

  • @seanellis8491
    @seanellis8491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Love when she’s fighting on the bridge and rolls through them all. Music drops, just pure action. She barely even uses her saber

    • @Mr_Movie_Fan
      @Mr_Movie_Fan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's such a cool scene, I remember when I first saw this and I couldn't tell if it was real or computer generated.

  • @alexandrmeyer
    @alexandrmeyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1122

    I know everybody says this, but that's hell of a masterpiece. Amazingly touching and emotional story that can be easily converted to a movie or even a TV series. The best of all and the only one where I understand what is going on as I never played the game (there is a game right?).

    • @MuunNii
      @MuunNii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      There's a game, yes ;)
      I'd even recommend trying it, even if ur just interested in single player games.. the story is quite decent and if you're strapped for star war stories this might be ur jam, since u can easily play it like a free SlinglePlayer game. (It has one major plot and different stories, depending on the class tho ;)

    • @alexandrmeyer
      @alexandrmeyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MuunNii Oh, thank you for the tip! I actually play only single player games that have some story and I didn't check this one as I thought it's just an online fighting or something. I'll check it out!

    • @MuunNii
      @MuunNii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@alexandrmeyer Well I'm not much of a fan of online games and I played SWTOR just for the story to be honest. And with past updates they really made it possibly to "just" play the story, without having to do typical MMO Stuff, which j greatly appreciated.
      Hope you'll give it a shot just to experience the story and I'll hope you'll have a great time doing so! Cheers

    • @GameslordXY
      @GameslordXY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      TV series?
      Certainly.
      Movies?
      Better not lol

    • @GameslordXY
      @GameslordXY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alexandrmeyer
      Different stories,depending on a class,are in base game only,NOT the expansions sadly.
      In the expansions,it is a same story regardless of class,with a few occasional class specific lines.

  • @timstewart1098
    @timstewart1098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +791

    This is the video that made me fall in love with Vaylin as a character. Her background is tragic and propelled her from a 1 dimensional villain. Still kind of sad we couldn't save her like Arcann.

    • @astrobookwormsinger
      @astrobookwormsinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Yeah. Everything that happened to her wasn't her fault and it's just so sad.

    • @Praxics0815
      @Praxics0815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Theoretically she is sort of alive... she took over a student of Satele who died during the encounter with Valkorion, the girl with the orange hair. The question is will BW actually pick that string up or leave it be.
      I would be up to give her a recruitment/destruction arc like Arcann but at the same time I honestly done with kotfe etc. and would rather focus on proper Empire vs. Republic content.

    • @LamentedSun
      @LamentedSun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Praxics0815 howd you know?

    • @chrisdollery6509
      @chrisdollery6509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wait what she possessed someone? I definitely missed that

    • @darthbane3937
      @darthbane3937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@astrobookwormsinger Yes, I don't like how she was treated either. One of the lines that showed her conflict was when she was with Senya in KOTFE and she said "You left us. Left me." The last so sadly. The devs were like you know what, we need a vilain for the final KOTET story lets make her crazy then kill her. Oh she'll unblock her conditioning but only give her one chapter to use it. She could've been as powerful as Anakin. She was more than Valkorion.

  • @Varindran
    @Varindran 3 ปีที่แล้ว +419

    Now that is all the old Cinematics covered now we just have to hope they made a brand new one for LOTS. if not then oh well.

    • @TheScoundrelsCantina
      @TheScoundrelsCantina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The HK-51 is missing though 😉

    • @RB-NZ2
      @RB-NZ2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheScoundrelsCantina and you are?

    • @CTN71
      @CTN71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s my hope as well

    • @KoteDarasuum
      @KoteDarasuum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheScoundrelsCantina I had honestly forgotten about that being a thing

    • @larniieplayz6285
      @larniieplayz6285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@RB-NZ2 why does that matter?

  • @Lersenomurmun
    @Lersenomurmun 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    Disney blaming its fans for misogyny. Yet this short animation has 2 female lead characters and is far better than anything they've produced in the last decade.

    • @Northlandvirus
      @Northlandvirus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True!

    • @rizon98
      @rizon98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There are a tons of misogynist and racist comments made at the cast of modern star wars media. I do not enjoy a lot of it but that doesn't excuse the hate a lot of actors have been getting.

    • @andrebjerke387
      @andrebjerke387 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rizon98because we know the difference between forced casting and what this video gave us

    • @holoqofholoqqia9503
      @holoqofholoqqia9503 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      SWTOR in general has a lot of strong female characters and you have the option to be one such character. Lana Beniko has that ara ara energy for example.

    • @Damesanglante
      @Damesanglante หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exposing yourself to the world for fame & money comes with it's downsides.
      We cannot control 8 billions individuals.
      Meanwhile, while you 5imp for famous people, they dry their tears with money for very low effort.

  • @TownieGirl1974
    @TownieGirl1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    You know a game trailer & the story telling done in the trailer are amazing when people who never played a single second of SWTOR got so into these cinematic trailers.

    • @thesovietvorona1007
      @thesovietvorona1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And although graphics aren’t as good in game the actual story for this chapter is aaaawesome.

    • @ZombieAndroid
      @ZombieAndroid 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@thesovietvorona1007 Soooo good 😅

  • @ShadowJupiter99
    @ShadowJupiter99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    I know she’s an evil character and not nice but I can’t help but feel incredibly sorry for Vaylin after watching this trailer. Valkorion really messed her up.

    • @НифЛим
      @НифЛим 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      So let her get her revenge against Dragon of Zakuul

    • @jontaii152
      @jontaii152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I think the best villains are ones that you can sympathize with or feel sorry for. Adds a lot of depth to their character

    • @arkenstar3979
      @arkenstar3979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@jontaii152 All villains have sad backstories.. doesnt make them any good.. no one is born evil.. the best villains are ones who's motives make sense.. like Anakin turning dark to save Padme.. Becoming a psychopath due to torture isnt really much depth...

    • @nickgarcia153
      @nickgarcia153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@arkenstar3979 There is no good or evil. Only perspective.

    • @briankhan6845
      @briankhan6845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nickgarcia153 🙌

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    Betrayed is also a sad story as well because you can tell Senya cared about her daughter Vaylin so much that she went to tooth and nail to save her from her father the sith emperor unfortunately she failed but she'd at least tried to save her daughter from becoming a monster, which actually the most tragic story of them all when you think about it because Vaylin didn't start out as a monster but a little girl who wanted to be like her brothers arcann and Thexan unfortunately the end result of this story is that well this entire family is now basically destroyed which is sad and depressing especially in a star wars story in my opinion.

    • @ryanroubert2483
      @ryanroubert2483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Senya is my favorite female from sw by far. You cant find more tragic story than hers on it

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ryanroubert2483 indeed and honestly I love senya as well because her story is really tragic and very sad but damn it she's a excellent fighter and would go to hell and back to save her children which I approve. :)

    • @ryanroubert2483
      @ryanroubert2483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TevyaSmolka precisely why shes my favorite. Its a tough display of tragedy and motherhood, deep content even for sw in my opinion. I love her role

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ryanroubert2483 indeed and another thing I did like about her character is that in the game itself you can help her redeem arcann and in my opinion actually was a great redemption story for her character and gave her another chance to be a mother again which made me so happy. :)

    • @ryanroubert2483
      @ryanroubert2483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TevyaSmolka sometimes i like to wonder, what if the plot of eternal throne saga were the original star wars from 1977. I mean, its a family drama from space as well, and the plot doesnt stay behind in quality and story telling of Skywalker family drama too

  • @6094598
    @6094598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    No matter how many times I see this, the ending always gives me chills which I absolutely love.

  • @tramainecanty5846
    @tramainecanty5846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    The fact the animation STILL holds up in these trailers really gives me hope for the day we get a star wars game with this exact level of breathtaking detail

    • @HeloisGevit
      @HeloisGevit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's already possible with modern software technology utilising full ray tracing or UE5 no joke, you just need to take a look at recent tech demos from the past couple of years. Issue is the average user's hardware has a lot of catching up to do. We should see some really powerful graphics cards debut in a year's time which will help make better hardware more accessible by driving prices now. Expect to see animated film quality graphics in several AAA games this gen, games like Rift Apart or the upcoming Forbidden West already approach this during cutscenes.
      Fingers crossed the Knights of the Old Republic remake, since it has Sony's money backing it, will be able to achieve a high level of visual polish!

    • @ramaya007
      @ramaya007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The problem is not the tech. It is the ideologues who hold Star Wars hostage and refuse to just make good stories. These are the darkest times for Star Wars and any Entertainment.

    • @HeloisGevit
      @HeloisGevit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ramaya007 No one asked, take your grift somewhere else.

    • @ramaya007
      @ramaya007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@HeloisGevit Truth is not a grift. Keep denying reality. So take your Reylo fan art to those chats.

    • @tramainecanty5846
      @tramainecanty5846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ramaya007 So everything you *claim* is pure and utter truth then? All he did was jus be kind and give a recommendation for some demo tests and you're comin in here all like "CoMpAnY iDeOlOgIeS" and "holding star wars hostage". Here's a news flash. Star Wars is gonna go in directions you and I won't agree with but who fucking cares? If that particular place isn't for older fans than we don't have to go there to still have to enjoy something. There will always be a piece of star wars out there for everyone, new and old so don't fucking gatekeep and tell others what they can and can't like. Mkay?

  • @jediclonekag13
    @jediclonekag13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    At last! All of the SWTOR cinematic trailers have been re-released in beautiful 4K quality. Honestly, I would love to see a new cinematic.

    • @matthewchristian9591
      @matthewchristian9591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      they all pretty much look the same to me

    • @GrandMoffVixen
      @GrandMoffVixen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@matthewchristian9591 Then you need help.

    • @nameirrelevant1114
      @nameirrelevant1114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bad release when you watch it on an HDR screen. Messed up shades of black.

    • @Totalschaden-dd4bp
      @Totalschaden-dd4bp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nameirrelevant1114 same goes for 21:9 monitors

  • @MindTrickedX24
    @MindTrickedX24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    What they did to Vaylin will never cease to disturb me, especially when I'm going through the wrecked labs and am hearing the details of what was done. Vaylin deserved redemption far more than Arcann, and I still hate that, to put him down, I have to put down Senya, whom I adore. There's so much I'd change about KotET. This trailer cements those feelings every time.

    • @ArcaneWolf9
      @ArcaneWolf9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Yeah, not having that flexibility to finish Arcann without Senya is a bit frustrating. As for Vaylin, redeeming her is tough storytelling. If she can just flip because , then it absolutely cheapens the impact of what happened to her. I don't think she was redeemable, and I mean I don't think there would be a way to undo or unravel what had been done to her. She didn't make mistakes or bad decisions that she could rectify and 'come to the light', she was betrayed, tortured, brutalized, manipulated and programmed from the time she was a child. Even if you could reach her...all that would be left would be a knot of trauma and suffering, everything else in her psyche from childhood onward was that monster. That is the tragedy of it, what her father did to her was so horrible that there may have never been a way out. And that was important storytelling for Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorian as well. We'd seen his power on a galactic scale, his dominance, his ego, his madness and willingness to sacrifice for his own power. But here he destroyed his own child, brutally twisting her into a monster. And it's unforgivable. Valkorian is played for charm, Koth reveres him, but we know whether it is planets of innocents or one little girl, as Tenebrae, Vitiate or Valkorian, it is a presence that must be removed from the universe.
      It's been a while, but now that I think of it, was there a path where Koth does more than, 'yeah, I guess' accept that we'll kill Valkorian?

    • @MindTrickedX24
      @MindTrickedX24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ArcaneWolf9 You're not wrong. I don't think heroic redemption was in order, so much as coming to some sort of realization how messed up she is, and taking steps to try to make some amends or at least chill the hell out some. I hated HAVING to kill her as a lightside Jedi - it felt forced and lazy.

    • @CMSgtSanders
      @CMSgtSanders 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She actually was redemable in a sense. She help you defeat Valcoran in the final battle by stripping his powers.

    • @Jodacro-it4zz
      @Jodacro-it4zz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@MindTrickedX24 Could the healing ritual the Voss used on Arcann be used on Vaylin or would she too powerful for that?

    • @MindTrickedX24
      @MindTrickedX24 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jodacro-it4zz I think Vaylin would 100% NOT be into it. Moot point, as she's no longer in that position, but no, I don't think it could. Different trauma (in the Force and mentally).

  • @angelisla7838
    @angelisla7838 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It’s sad that we received an entire different Star Wars when this could’ve been a new era for the franchise , it’s not even 10 minutes long and it has such a wonderful storytelling, better visuals and a darkness that feels new and refreshing it treats Star Wars with respect and seriousness not with stupidity and mediocrity that we are receiving from Disney . I hope this will be the story of the future this is “the new hope”we the true and loyal fans deserve.

  • @rangerslayer2260
    @rangerslayer2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    "You think I sent you to learn? No, you had to be... conditioned."
    "Kneel before the Dragon of Zakuul!"

    • @angrynerd4178
      @angrynerd4178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never finished the game
      Was that Valkorion?

    • @rangerslayer2260
      @rangerslayer2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@angrynerd4178 Yes, those are Valkorion's lines from KOTET Ch 3

  • @alexv4383
    @alexv4383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    honestly, this trailer and ‘Return’ are my favourite cinematics, the suspense in both are amazing. love seeing senya in her absolute prime, and we see where her guilt stems from. vaylin’s story is so tragic and i really wish we could’ve redeemed her. here’s to hoping for a cinematic for Legacy of the Sith

  • @RemusGT
    @RemusGT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This one is very emotional and shows the bond between mother and daughter. Vaylin kind of reminds me of Azula

    • @3dpyromaniac560
      @3dpyromaniac560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wasn't born a monster... Check
      Child prodigy... Check
      Turned unwillingly into a monster by an abusive father... Check
      Mother trying to save children from the abuse... Check
      Yeah it works out

    • @voidedsouls6638
      @voidedsouls6638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@3dpyromaniac560 Mother being banished... Check

    • @asu_meii
      @asu_meii 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      checks out, I loved both Vaylin and Azula as characters, loved both of them as complex villains

  • @astrobookwormsinger
    @astrobookwormsinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I lost my sons as soon as I had them,
    Like their father, they both sought might.
    But you, you were always the special one,
    A ray of light, cheerful and bright.
    You prodigious powers shook us to the core,
    It caused us so much fear and fright,
    I was helpless and foolish, and made a mistake
    That I think I can never truly right.
    Your father knew power, my child, and I thought he'd understand,
    But he stole you away, far from my sight.
    I could have screamed and fought but I let you go,
    And it was too late when I realised my fault that night.
    You were my precious treasure, you were my life's light,
    You were in chains, you were in a constant night.
    I took you and ran, and fought everything in sight,
    But you had changed, it was too late to keep you from our fights.
    And now I know my one mistake will haunt me every night,
    I will wish a thousand times to have made a different choice in hindsight.
    I have failed as your mother more than I've failed as your father's knight,
    And I will give my life to be able to change your fate, to rewrite.
    (If you like this, check out my poem for the Sacrifice 4k trailer as well 😅 it has only one like so far)

    • @johnquach8821
      @johnquach8821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow this is amazing!

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow that’s fantastic

    • @astrobookwormsinger
      @astrobookwormsinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you both so much! It means a lot :)

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@astrobookwormsinger your welcome :)

  • @jgascoine011
    @jgascoine011 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    a 6min video more emotion than 8 episodes of the acolyte. Not to mention a far better script despite having no words spoken lol

  • @narugokuromaki1
    @narugokuromaki1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

    Now that’s an acolyte

    • @johnkelly298
      @johnkelly298 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🤮

    • @AlphaDeltaOmegaCorps
      @AlphaDeltaOmegaCorps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      FOR. REAL!!!

    • @thelimon4338
      @thelimon4338 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Don’t you dare remind us of that shit

    • @gl1tch_01
      @gl1tch_01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      An acolyte of what? Not the Sith, obviously, not the dark side, because Valkorian said himself that the knights know that the force is more than light and dark, satele and Marr backed this up, the reason why Arcann, thexan, and vaylin were so deadly was because the way the used the force was completely different

  • @Hector52441
    @Hector52441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Those Trailers are beyond God-Level. Its insane how much effort was put into these.
    This particular one is really sad and depressing but soooo good.
    Thanks Blur Studios for making this master piece of Art and Thanks BioWare for giving it to us. Just Thanks

  • @Nepururin
    @Nepururin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    This is looking so fresh. Please give us a new cinematic for The Legacy of the Sith

    • @goldenwoofer4757
      @goldenwoofer4757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I hope so too!

    • @NinjaSquirrel30
      @NinjaSquirrel30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This ^^

    • @Disturbance42
      @Disturbance42 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mission failed, they won't get us next time either

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want to see exar kun true power in a cinematic trailer like this but the developers have gone cheap and lazy, the laters trailer has stiff animation because they don't use real martial artist to do the moves anymore

  • @legendary6790
    @legendary6790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I swear it looks like real actors. Incredible what modern tech can do.

  • @bernhardlabus8511
    @bernhardlabus8511 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I absolutely love the scene where she attacks the guard during training. That larger, very threatening looking guard being lifted, his weapon splintering and then finally the helmet giving in, revealing that one horrified eye of the before emotionless looking guard.

  • @jungwoowhoo
    @jungwoowhoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Can you imagine if they made a series like this? A movie? A short film? Man that would be so cool :((((

    • @Balloonbot
      @Balloonbot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There really needs to be a Star Wars movie

    • @nullskull6860
      @nullskull6860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      don't give the idiots at lucasfilm any ideas

    • @juniorvixama55
      @juniorvixama55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ooo myyyy god damn yess

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@Balloonbot Disney will ruin it

    • @jlistetson
      @jlistetson ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Disney’s acolyte is probably going to be a knockoff of this

  • @johnrb0213
    @johnrb0213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Such a damn shame how some of the absolute best looking star wars stories are by far the most underutilized content in the property. I wanna see so much more of these stories

  • @WNShadow814
    @WNShadow814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There is so much heart in this 6 minute clip. Give the franchise to people like this and it may yet be restored to former glories

    • @varric
      @varric ปีที่แล้ว

      6 minutes clip being more Star Wars than the entire Sequel Trilogy put together.

  • @maotsetiandi974
    @maotsetiandi974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Probably the darkest trailer of all Star Wars media

    • @natspencer174
      @natspencer174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was just thinking the same thing. This is almost as dark as Revenge of the Sith.

    • @Kerimo007
      @Kerimo007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And then there's KotOR II

    • @maotsetiandi974
      @maotsetiandi974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kerimo007 Kotor is the darkest game (and the best related to star wars in my opinion) but this is the darkest trailer

  • @zakolascage5808
    @zakolascage5808 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    4:25 I simply love this shot. Her bodyguards knew it was the moment to gtfo, gotta praise their loyalty.

    • @MrThecrazyzombie
      @MrThecrazyzombie ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I didn't realize that, I thought she was captured

  • @romancapulus5577
    @romancapulus5577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Adolf Kennedy: “There’s no strong women in Star Wars!”
    Senya:”Hold my light pike.”

    • @AdamGołębiewski-v1s
      @AdamGołębiewski-v1s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Leia and Padme: are we a joke to you? (Kennedy of course)

  • @WaldoKrayt
    @WaldoKrayt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Still love it after all these years! If they make a new cinematic for this anniversary IM GONNA LOSE MY MIND

  • @christianericsson43
    @christianericsson43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Still, after 10years, a masterpiece! Unbelievable. This is how the new movies should have been.

    • @greedo_rodian
      @greedo_rodian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this would be a new era of star wars, if they have the courage

  • @ice_cre4m_man261
    @ice_cre4m_man261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I never noticed this before, but for a good deal of the fight at 3:30 Senya doesn't have her lightsaber activated. I love it!

    • @RobotTheBadger
      @RobotTheBadger ปีที่แล้ว

      She only uses lightsabers twice on them in the whole fight, rest is combat and a maybe knife throw? and the one saber kill is one of theirs

  • @yakone1379
    @yakone1379 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm not a Star Wars fan, I barely know anything about the franchise, but this cinematic still captivates me with how well it is done.

  • @Confessionofteenagenuns
    @Confessionofteenagenuns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why isn't disney calling the storyboard, visual directers, animators up and giving these people a shot in the movie industry. Theyre clearly passionate about the universe and this is how to do female charectors if you want to focus on them a little more. Its high art and the peopel working on this project who I didnt mention included should be very proud of all their work. I still get chills at teh scene on the birdge ten plus years later and cant wait to share it with my son when he comes of age. I cannot say the same about the the sequel trilogy. this was High art

  • @szekereselektra1253
    @szekereselektra1253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    *This 6-minute cinematic video has more emotion, drama, and action than the new SW trilogy combined.*

  • @knorki5268
    @knorki5268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This does so much more for me than the sequels will ever do, it's so perfect

  • @LaphromiX
    @LaphromiX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I wish they'd (Blur?) release all the concept art and story boards for these shorts. They're phenomenal and amazing pieces of story telling.

    • @lupinlapin
      @lupinlapin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blur it is. As often ! ^^

  • @markmunroe-hz8rf
    @markmunroe-hz8rf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Who's here to wash their eyes after The Alcolyte?!

    • @bananerna2601
      @bananerna2601 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You're here for pats on the back. The acolyte isn't as bad as you "fans" think it is.

    • @sweet0mistral
      @sweet0mistral 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bananerna2601imdb - 3.3
      rt - 14%
      google - 18%
      If you liked, fine by me 😊 but overall the show is bad.
      For instance, i liked Obi Wan Kenobi, but i can’t deny the fact the show was bad. Bad cinematography, bad script, cannon brake…but i still like it.

    • @itwastaken4802
      @itwastaken4802 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bananerna2601bro the show literally had components of the plot that did not align with the chronological events of Star Wars the show is shiet

  • @asamibeniko
    @asamibeniko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is my favorite trailer out of all of them,I love the emotions in this trailer and of "sacrifice",

  • @jtreedy116
    @jtreedy116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That fight on the bridge is fantastic - I've always thought Senya was a badass.

  • @richardmcgowan1651
    @richardmcgowan1651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Re-watching this becuase even though its only 6 minutes long. Its more Star Wars content than the three new films Disney made. Thats saying a lot.

  • @third.broome
    @third.broome 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Before John Wick there was this bad ass woman. This is still the coldest mother fucking lightsaber bout of ANY star wars content imho. 1 v 6. Sis has got bodies in multiple systems. She knew how it was going down before the fight even started. She's the main reason I'm fascinated by pyke sabers. I feel like Godfrey from Kingdom of Heaven (Liam Neeson) would be proud of her use of the lightsaber as a weapon even when not ignited. Her daughter is pretty scary too.

  • @papavania4591
    @papavania4591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You gave me back my youth! It is a pity that some of my friends did not live up to this moment. I will play as all the fallen Jedi!

  • @zero15150
    @zero15150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This 6 minute trailer was more intense than the last cinematic films did

  • @ryanr9299
    @ryanr9299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    man.. This still gives me the chills.. Honestly the video games have better story lines than the movies even..

  • @sweetpeaches6955
    @sweetpeaches6955 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This six minutes trailer is ten times better than all of Disney Star Wars

  • @nullw8768
    @nullw8768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope that these 4k versions are leading up to a brand new 4k experience ushering in a new expansion! Still so many things left to do.

    • @weyjosh5213
      @weyjosh5213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just wanna take over the sith empire and have free reign to destroy random worlds lol

  • @hectorgc1455
    @hectorgc1455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She was turned into a monster, tortured, betrayed... But damn, Valkorion's people knows how to tattoo.

  • @emilmedina5273
    @emilmedina5273 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remember there are three canon timelines:
    The Lucas Canon: The original 6 movies only.
    The Disney Canon: Everything disney has made since 2014 and on.
    The Expanded Universe (Legends) Canon: Everything before Disney (Dark horse comics, Novels, the games like force unleashed 1 & 2, SWTOR, KOTOR, jedi academy.) Disney didn't eliminate it completely they are keeping it alive through Disney plus and other games.
    I've been diving into Legends (EU) these days and I feel like a kid again.
    Choose your canon wisely....

  • @Abbendys
    @Abbendys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love these cinematics and the whole plot

  • @LeedleLeePatrick
    @LeedleLeePatrick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish that this was all leading up to a surprise Legacy of the Sith cinematic trailer. Been too long since we've had one of these masterpieces.

  • @TristenS27
    @TristenS27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was the best one by far. Insane story within 6 minutes

  • @nobodyofinterest5324
    @nobodyofinterest5324 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4:30 ok first of all her guards being like “hey we have to go!” And second of all, the child’s giggle once the black screen between shots hit. Memorizing.

  • @andydrums4333
    @andydrums4333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE SINCE THE OTHERS STARTED GETTING RE UPLOADED. This one is my personal favorite 💔💔💔💔💔💔

    • @zen1647
      @zen1647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep! Mine too!

  • @Kranitoko
    @Kranitoko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It was always curious to me how young Vaylin looks like a possible younger Lana Beniko

    • @arrowheadwaterbottle6815
      @arrowheadwaterbottle6815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow I never thought of that...... you're so right though

    • @Kranitoko
      @Kranitoko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arrowheadwaterbottle6815 obviously this isn't the case clearly. But still 😅

  • @bilmer7465
    @bilmer7465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honestly if we could get a series or a movie with those who made the animations. I'm still waiting for that day

    • @lupinlapin
      @lupinlapin ปีที่แล้ว

      Not going to happen xD You can't imagine how long it takes to make such quality animations in 120min format. And Blur Studio would not accept, no way. But a sweet dream.

    • @bilmer7465
      @bilmer7465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lupinlapin gonna need a budget like gay of thrones

    • @lupinlapin
      @lupinlapin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bilmer7465 hahaha yes indeed. But the franchise has been murdered by Disney. In my opinion nobody would be willing to invest :(

    • @bilmer7465
      @bilmer7465 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lupinlapin true, recent work that disney have made had so much potential like boba fet and obi wan but I think they ruined it.

    • @lupinlapin
      @lupinlapin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bilmer7465 yes… although Jon Favreau is true genious in my opinion… all the clone wars series, the recent one with the different « tales » and rogue one. He did in fact understood how Lucas entended the whole thing. Very recently, his work was not very good but he stated yesterday that K.Kennedy is pushing her changes on him and that he will leave The Mandalorian. He is the last hope 😼

  • @robbierende
    @robbierende 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ohhh man I miss these!! I hope they are cooking up another cinematic trailer with Revan or something. I’ll buy a new PC tomorrow and start playing again😍👽🤘

  • @ZimCrusher
    @ZimCrusher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I come back here to watch this every few years, just to remind myself what star wars COULD have been.

    • @kianvandenberg6364
      @kianvandenberg6364 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could? There is a whole game about this

  • @teabaganyone7830
    @teabaganyone7830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I already like and am more invested in every single character in this then any of the sequel characters

  • @gipsyghoul
    @gipsyghoul 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Had to come here and watch this after seeing the dumpster fire of acolyte... More character development, emotion and heart in 6 minutes than all of disneys bs.

  • @killer3000ad
    @killer3000ad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    If they made the Acolyte based of this it would have been great. Instead we get scissoring space lesbian witch cult shitting all over Anakin.

  • @Mykola_Ponomarenko
    @Mykola_Ponomarenko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This trailer is a way better than most of full-length movies! 😊🥰👍

  • @robertoguevara2635
    @robertoguevara2635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vaylin's story is so sad. She deserves her own movie.

    • @tomnorton4277
      @tomnorton4277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not if Disney's doing it. They'll fuck it up.

  • @wolnyczowiek8705
    @wolnyczowiek8705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ok now we have all cinematics remastered. So it's the best time for a new one!

  • @nickclark9725
    @nickclark9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This trailer breaks my heart so good every time.

  • @robertharmon279
    @robertharmon279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Disney should take note.

  • @LordofDarknessX
    @LordofDarknessX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shadows of the past ring anew bringing with it a vision so clear that not even the Dark Side could cloud its spectacular glory.....

  • @rickoftherick4610
    @rickoftherick4610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Now this is story telling.

  • @injxx2110
    @injxx2110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got goosebumps while watching it, one of the best Star Wars cinematics

  • @MikaelH89
    @MikaelH89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    PLEASE make a cinematic for Legacy of the Sith! I'd pay just for watching the trailer!

  • @Justaguyb5c
    @Justaguyb5c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WHERE IS THE REST??? This 6-minute clip is 100x better than all the new star wars put together!

  • @br9377
    @br9377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would have been so cool if this was how Kylo Ren went to the dark side and it was Leia trying to rescue him.

  • @Mokester
    @Mokester 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Could you imagine a world where this was made in place of acolyte

  • @lemeowskie5983
    @lemeowskie5983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vaylin is up there in the crazy/hot scale

  • @Nugglezz
    @Nugglezz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What the Acolyte episode 3 should've been.

  • @bracksampson1
    @bracksampson1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And yet another example of how extended cannon writers can do a 4 min clip better than the last 3 movies Disney put out with billions at their disposal... good job.

  • @sotl7749
    @sotl7749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:01 no waaayy! She used the turn on/off technique. I haven't seen anyone fought like that apart from Star wars vision.

  • @danielbertola7868
    @danielbertola7868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6mins and better than a whole trilogy.

  • @Signorasbutterfly
    @Signorasbutterfly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vaylin is one of my favorite characters in the entire Star Wars universe she's unbelievably well written. I wish we could've saved her

  • @serherpvonderp6634
    @serherpvonderp6634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally, was looking for the 4k trailer two days ago.

  • @johnrodriguez5277
    @johnrodriguez5277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why the F#*k can't Disney make star wars movies like this??? SMMH 😔

  • @dosmatrix4470
    @dosmatrix4470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simply the Best Cinematics created for any game and Swtor has always been a blast to play for me.

  • @rocketleagueclips7024
    @rocketleagueclips7024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These cinematics are better than the new movies.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    these SWTOR traillers are the absolute best of all star wars, period.
    Kudos to ALL that have been involved in the writing, development and conception of this!

  • @jonathanprinters
    @jonathanprinters ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would love to see this as a series

  • @arionmagnoli
    @arionmagnoli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is better than anything Disney has made!

  • @selahrhoades9376
    @selahrhoades9376 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That little eye roll as a Vaylin gets up the second time makes me feel for her even more

  • @PixisuME
    @PixisuME ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the sound mixing when the Sith transition happens. Wow.

  • @antar7475
    @antar7475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tenebrae litteraly broke her...
    I know Vaylin turned evil and did awful things, but the only thing i feel about her is sorrow and sadness.

  • @Standoffmuffin
    @Standoffmuffin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't wait till this is redone in 8k 😎

  • @billyzyron5960
    @billyzyron5960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Has Disney ever seen those cinematics? Don't they feel ashamed?