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Gen1 Hayabusa, Clutch Slave Support Bracket !
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มี.ค. 2021
- Hayabusa Slave cylinders flex and twist under load, here's how to stop it.!
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Great that you're finally in a shop worthy of you! Keep the two-wheel content coming.
Thanks Jerry, thats very kind of you, ! Will do.
That was straightforward Delboy A good firm result.all the best Tony
Thanks Tony, good to hear from you, and hope you're keeping safe and well .
great video brother !!!! im glad you are back at it !!! cant wait for the next video !! cheers from new york stay safe guys !!!!
Thanks! You too Brother, ! Good to be back on the tools and under way again, Hope life is getting back to normal for you guys over there now, not long before all this is over.
Another great vid mate....definitely intrigued about the next one 👌
Thanks Craig, glad you enjoyed it mate, see you in the next one. 👍
Another video to chill out to. Nice one Del.
Nice video Del & Penny, excellent mob mate. Penny and you have a good week. Cheers
Thanks mate, you too, got cam belts to change on the Shed Wing this weekend, so loads of fun and peace of mind regained..!
Great upgrade! I was just a little scared when you bent the pipe. Can't wait for the next vid!
Not as scared as me mate lol!
hi del a quick video this time ,I just had time to finish my drink out of my new delboys coffee mug ,a good upgrade job ,I did closed my eyes when you were bending that pipe
ha ha, so did i mate, that was scary to start with.. but it turns out it's pretty soft and bends easily. Thanks again for your support. Have a great week buddy.
Brilliant stuff, DB. 👌👍
Thanks Peter. 👍
Good upgrade❤️
Brilliant !
Good work Sir.
Good vid as per usual
Excellent video, I’ve always wondered about that mod. Think I’ll pop one on as I’ve just had stiffer springs fitted 👍🏻
You won't regret it, the clutch lever feel so much sharper..
Just ordered it 👍🏻
@@allenglishknives6823 Good plan buddy, you'll love the better clutch feel.
Great video del looking forward to next video on how to lock your bike up had my lad's bike stolen a couple of years ago and because they couldn't get it going they set fire to it .stay safe both of you and looking forward to next video's 🇬🇧👍
Sorry to hear that mate, what a horrible thing to do, makes you wonder what goes through their peanut brains aye... This is purely a lock and something ive personally never seen before.. editing still, but will be ready for Friday mate..
@@Moonfleet41 thanks look forward to it 🇬🇧👍
Wow......quite a difference on the flexing Del, didn't expect that ? Think I'll be carrying out this modification on my Busa too, great stuff 👍
Yeah, it's worth it even on a factory clutch.. put your finger on the slave case and pull the clutch lever in... you can distinctly feel it move.!
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Yeah Del, will definitely be having a look at mine, got about 37000 miles on the clock now. I suspect my Busa will be very similar to yours ?
@@grahamfairclough2462 Almost exactly the same mileage mate.. good luck with it
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks Del, 👍
Awesome brother 👍
Hey Ron, good to hear from you brother, hope life is good and you're all keeping safe.
Nice one 👌
That brace is a good mod even if the clutch springs are stock. There is a different brace available for the Gen1 and Gen2 as well. It goes directly across the center of the slave cylinder.
I agree, it flexed even under regular use.
Boy, like other reviewers, I’m skeptical bout bending pipes like that, my mind probably goes little more, nah.. little bit more😬 .. LOL... pretty simple job here. Awesome!!
ha ha.. it was a bit scary, but the tube is actually quite soft and flexed over nice and easy..
@@Moonfleet41 .. that easy for you say... LOL... I probably run imagining ideas in my mind... assuming it’s aluminum material?
Hi there...another great Video...I just installed the Smart turn Signal and Smart Brake System...These work great...you should get them to send you them and you do a Installation Video...
That sounds interesting mate.. do you have a link to those..?
There a few clips on TH-cam....They work great and you feel much safer using them both...I have set the brake system to Flash 3 or 4 times it really cool...!!
Nice one Del 👌🏼 hope your keeping well mate, not long until the bikes are allowed out, my MOT is Saturday I can't wait 😁
Ha ha yeah, can't wait buddy, Good luck with the MOT, (like it's even a question!).. looks like a long test ride on Sunday then.!
@@Moonfleet41 gotta make sure all the bolts are tightly on, first 50 miles and all, but you knew that didn't you? Haha
Cool! Love the fact that you tested it to see how good it really was....must get me a DTI, lets face it I will never probably have the need to use it, but what a great gadget to have!!
Hey buddy, how's tricks, love to hear you interested in tools, you know how it is, you think you'll never need them then once they arrive you can't remember how you lived with out them.!! Keep safe and well, and let's catch up soon aye.. Kettle's on when you're passing next. !
@@Moonfleet41 Cannot wait to get out on one of my own bikes for fun (rather than "work")....I'm deffo due a visit and hobnob at your place....my new Goldwing needs a ride!! Speak soon!
3 thou looks a lot on a DTI, but in reality is nothing, great mod and it looks good, cheers Del ⚙️🔩🔧👍
Yeah, fully agree mate, happy with the result and the clutch feels a lot better. Thanks for watching mate.
I like your little encouragement for your German viewers 👍🏍🙏
Another good job. Making things better. Nice! My luck, I would have broken off the pipe...oops. What make of abjustable T-bar torque wrench did you use? In the market for one of them.
Thanks, it was a scary thing to undertake, but it turns out that the pipe is pretty soft steel and flexed over easily by that tiny amount it needs, i wouldn't want to be doing it every day though. 👍 This is the Torque Wrench i use, not cheap, but top quality which is always worth paying for on such critical tools.. www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/Wiha-Torque-T-Handle-ST-Plus-TorqueVario-Set-29234?search=Torque%20vario%20ST&description=true
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks for the info. Can't beat quality tools. Will check it out. Cheers
Nice and simple job del but had to look away when you were bending the pipe 🙈
ha ha, yeah, it was a bit of a Poo panter !
@@Moonfleet41 I had a poo moment yesterday when a header bolt rang off in the engine tried getting it out with no success 😥
Noooo, sorry to hear that buddy, take your time and use all your patience.. you'll get hold of it.! Good luck aye.
I'm not a metallurgist, but I'd first warm the pipe up with a hair dryer or heat gun
before trying to bend it. In the past, I've replaced a clutch master cylinder pipe
with an Aeroquip fitting and steel braided line, and the sidewalk mechanics loved it. :-)
Great job sir. Looking forward to the security video. Is it for other bikes or just your one.
Thanks Mark, It's something for this bike, but the parts are available for many other bikes.
Back down the shed 👊🏻👊🏻👍🏻
I did cringe when you bent that water pipe!!! Me and plumbing always end in disaster! haha
Ha ha. "Brickin' it" hardly covers it..!
Nice,,👍👍👌🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🍺🍺🍺🍺.
This is the problem when one tries to re-engineer what Suzuki spent a fortune engineering. The clutch mod may remove all the slop in the slip/assist mechanism but, because you have lost the ‘assist’ bit you have to have beefier springs to prevent clutch slip. Because you have to have beefier springs you put more strain on the slave mounting, so that has to be beefed up too….and you still end up with a much heavier clutch lever and probably no more resistance to slipping than a well maintained slip/assist. Would it not just be better to just repair/replace the slip/assist?
Unfortunately Del deleted his reply to my original comment so my further response may seem a little out of context....
I'm watching these busa mods carefully because my next major bike purchase is a gen 1 or gen 2 busa. Wonder if the 2021 has has these mods from factory 🤔
Also Is that t-bar a torque wrench?
Yes mate, the T-bar torque wrench is linked under the video if you want to check it out. Not sure about the new Gen3 busa, im sure it's better than this system, im sure they've learned from it by now.!
Yay another excellent video learning so even though I'm only on a very nice looking 125 that doesn't look like a 125 can't wait for the next one enjoy the rest of your week and as always ride safe both of you
Thanks Malcolm, glad you enjoyed it, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, ride safe yourself too and have a great week.
Nice little upgrade indeed! The before and after test results were very interesting. Thanks for the video, team DBG!
Can the flex on the cylinder cause the clutch to slip? I replaced my friction plates recently from M and P (their cheapest) but quality heavy duty springs and yet I am still finding that my clutch slips for the first 5-10 mins of usage. It's worse on cold mornings
Is this on a Hayabusa mate?
@@Moonfleet41 sorry. Yes it is. It does it more so in cold mornings
@@hunterjg777 OK, IM assuming that you soaked the clutch plates in oil over night before installing them ?. Any new clutch takes a short while to bed in, and there may be a tiny bit of slippage to begin with, but not for more than the first few pull always. You could change your oil if you didn't do that already, im also assuming you haven't used any wear inhibitors like Slick50 or STP oil treatments?, they can trash your clutch !! other than that, you could brace your slave cylinder anyway, it will make the clutch lever feel a lot less spongy, and you'll have made more flex now you're running beefier springs ! Hope that helps mate.. Good luck with it.
looking forward to the security episode.
Hope it's mechanical and doesn't involve logging on to the interwebs 😲 ....I'm so last century 😢
Peace and love brother 👍🏻☮❤
Mate, this is so last century it drinks Tizer and Rides a Raleigh Grifter..! Peez'n'loaf Brother.
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Buckaroo! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Im hoping it doesn't have that effect on the bike..!:-D
(P) Always good to beef up when needed. Less than half I’d say is a result 👍🏻
Yeah, it still has movement, but judging by the lever feel, it's way better than it was and a lot crisper pulling away. Hope you're all keeping well buddy, take care. D&Px
Would you use such a dial gauge to true up a spoke wheel - in both axial and radial runout, Del?
Yeah, you could do, they don't measure much range of movement, so you'd have to get it close by eye first.! im not sure how true a spoke wheel is to start with.. i can imagine that even muscling a tyre onto it would knock it out by a couple of thou ! they have to be flexible after all.!
A normal dial indicator would be a better choice for that. 🙂
@@JmChannel25 - Could you post a link to a photo of a dial indicator (as I don't know the difference between the two). I'm wondering how true a 100mph wheel has to be.
@@daveinwla6360 My link gets deleted immediately.
Just Google dial indicator. 🙂
@@JmChannel25 - Googling both "dial gauge" and "dial indicator" seem to get the same results - and the range of prices is huge. I suspect, though, that for truing a wheel, a cheap instrument would suffice.
As for links, some channels choose to block spam by blocking anything with an ampersand and dot, so just replace the ampersand and dot with "[amp]" and "[dot]", and let the viewer convert them. :-)
Handy mods. Another good job done.. Now back to that Trumpet! 😉
Does this work on TL1000r as well???
Yes I believe so, it's the same concept, check the link under the video to the supplier and order the correct one for your bike
Great video and mod.
IMO. You should have placed the indicator magnet on the motorcycle.
Not a bad idea, but im not so sure it'd be a different reading.!!
@@Moonfleet41 it's possible that the bike moves a little on the bench when you pull the clutch.
@@JmChannel25 The visible oscillation of the needle was the bike moving on the lift, but the highest and lowest reading was the flex in the casing..! either way, the before and after reading was obtained by identical methods, and it reduced flex by 5 thou, maybe not much, but its very apparent at the clutch lever..!
@@Moonfleet41 👍
@@Moonfleet41 It would really look good on you to simply accept some constructive criticism. Dealing with such small movements as in this case JM_Denmark is simply right, attaching the dial gauge to the bench does not provide any valid measurements whatsoever, despite using the same method before and after, the results themselves are simply not reproducible. And while on it, please consider using aluminium or ceramic based anti seize paste instead of this brown copper stuff. Using it on pairings of aluminium casings and steel bolts can cause corrosion due to differences in electric potential betweens Alu and Steel, thus causing seizure of the bolts later on and effectively causing exactly what you are trying to avoid with it in the first place. Apart from these small things keep up the great content, love it and have learned so much over the years, always something new to find out.
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Cant wait until i can actually do as you suggest Del.... "Ride Safe" !!
Yeah me too buddy, be good to get out for a long ride in the sunshine aye.
I wonder if it will work on my Bandit.
I don't know if they need bracing do they?.. never heard it to be an issue with the bandit motor !
@@Moonfleet41 I know it only has 100bhp but, it has a hydraulic clutch same as the Busa AND i'm thinking about the spring upgrade.
@@timmason7430 Put your finger on the slave cylinder, operate the clutch lever.. and see if it flexes.!
Hi Del nice video, I am sure that plate works but i think the way you measure it is flawed.
Flawed in what way mate?
The bike will move in relation to the lift.
Well it will still move when the bracket is fitted so it relitive when it moves less after bracket is fitted, it works 😎
Great video 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Got a question for ya... what's the difference between anti-seize and copper slip? And when are the best applications for them? Being a musician, my wife always says I can't fix it, but I could write a song about it!
Oh, and when this covid nonsense goes away, are you and Penny still planning a US bike tour?
Hey Brother, Copper slip is an anti seize compound along with others like 'Alu slip', 'Beef tallow' and Graphite grease.. the copper verity is just the most comply used. We are still planning our trip, maybe in a huge RV rather then a bike, same kinda money to rent, less weather dependent and a permanent place to sleep every night... this Covid thing stowed it all on the back burner so we made no more steps forward on it since a year ago, and so much has changed in that time..(and in Your life too aye Bro!) but yeah, once the flood waters ebb away, and Covid-19 becomes yesterdays news, we can start to put some plans back together.. Take care Both of you and keep safe over there, and of course, stay in touch.. D&Pxx
Hope all is well. Thanks for the video
;-) yay another vid
I imagine I'm going to be pulling the clutch lever whilst feeling the slave on my old gsxr 750f in the morning.
Good luck with it, I don't think those were too bad!
Surprised your not painting it black.
I didn't paint any of the engine itself, Time and patina will blend it in buddy.!
Buenas Tardes Del . " Interesting " .
Masterful, Del! Love the pink drain tub! Hope you both are doing ok. Getting warmer here... 🏍👍🏍
Yeah, sorry about that.. that's what happens when you send your wife out to buy an oil drain pan...she comes back with a pink kitty litter tray.. but hey, it cost 99p and works great, so problem solved.. Warmer here too brother, rain on and off, but that just washes the salt away, and thats all good right.! Take care and keep safe.. D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 haha I know the feeling! My other half has been my apprentice lately here on these indoor woodworking/carpentry projects. I think the boss/ee relationship has set in. And you know I’ve become the ‘ee, right? And unpaid, it turns out! lol 😎
Still a fan of that busa, she'd look great with some sand on her! Beauty of a waster
Thanks buddy, it was onnly really finished and rolled out in to the sun last Spring, and you know the rest!... it's hardly turned a wheel all year... so yes you're right, it's way too black, it needs a coating of that wasteland sand... leave it to me!! ;-)
yay.!
Wow you talk about a lot of important topics in the video production space! We like what you do, keep it up. Anytime you are in Phoenix hit us up. If you'd like, DM us @dmakproductions on IG and we can connect. We love what you do!
Thank you so much for your kind and generous words, im about the garage first, all of the production work is purely amateur and feeling my way in the dark.. but practice makes it easier and every production teaches me a little more.. I'm always keen to grow as a producer and make better videos, so happy to learn from professionals like yourselves. Thank you again for your kind compliments.. maybe we can work something out. Take care and keep safe. Del.
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So it flexs about the same amount as two human hairs LoL...and now were down to one hair
Prevention always better than cure i always say, great vid Del 👍
Are you going to take the plate off and paint it now you know it works
Nope, its fine as it is..!
@@Moonfleet41 Rat bike.
Je ne comprends pas pourquoi à cette heure, il y a 523 "aficionados" qui ont regardé la vidéo et n'ont pas "liké"... what's wrong with you guys? Vous ne savez toujours pas comment fonctionne TH-cam?