Fighter Pilot Reacts to INDEPENDENCE DAY (1996) | Mover Ruins Movies
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- Former F/A-18 pilot reacts to flying scenes from the 1996 documentary INDEPENDENCE DAY starring Will Smith, Jeff Goldblum, and Bill Pullman. Fresh out of copyright jail, this was originally uploaded on July 4th to my Instagram (@cwlemoine) and Facebook ( cwlemoine) accounts. It just cleared content ID last week.
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Mover: "We need a fighter pilot President."
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lol, but they are too smart to want to be President...
they could fly themselves around on air force one
They can Manchester each other every time a bill fails.
Matteo you beat me to the punch
"Everybody's got a cigar."
Not quite everybody.
If I'd been directing, they would.
Even the dogs.
Even the aliens.
Especially the aliens.
Underrated comment this is.
would the skull on the warning message have a cigar too? before the bomb goes off in the mother ship?
@@alexander1485 Yes
Now this is some comment gold you don't see every day.
I love how they roll their eyes at the guy that said he was abducted by aliens... while organizing to fight aliens
Well hey that's because being abducted by aliens is simply saying you are insane. ... fighting aliens on the 4th of July is just .... another day in the office :D
Totally different aliens we're talking here :D
ha ha.. yes they were actually happy with him so far...
Best review: "Independence Day is about aliens that destroy New York City and Washington, DC, but they turn out to be unfriendly."
when an alien invasion followed by a nuclear detonation could be classified as gentrification
Interestingly, the aliens depicted in the film are said to be real, striking fear into the Star Wars film Empire, whom allegedly controls and feeds off this planet in a strange Jupiter Ascending Abraxis Industry fashion. Luckily Captain Marvel and Star Trek Enterprise gots your back. As for these aliens? They actually allied with Earth...
Huh??
"and the canopy's open"......hahahaha
That killed me. Almost crying watching this.
Followed up later with "Your engine's not running, that's probably part of the problem."
This Mover Ruins had me in stitches.
Hey, I am pretty sure a hornet has one of those ww2 slide back cockpits so you can feel the breeze.
At least they got the Hornet's complete lack of combat radius right.
Came here to say this. 😅
"They're gonna get blown up because the air force refused to cooperate. typical." lmao
I swear, even though it seems like a rah rah USA moment, I watched this movie opening night in Canada and people cheered after the president’s speech. I agree, one of the best speeches in movie history.
Back when it wasn't politically incorrect to be patriotic.
@@StoryboardMindset back when it wasn't politically incorrect to like things.
'Once again fighting for our freedom. Not from tyranny, oppression or persecution.' *Sad Bri'ish noises*
For other than THE 4th of July part, The speech was talking about freedom much like why America has the 4th of July. Only it was freedom from being annihilated and it was the whole world not just America that fought.
6:05 "It doesn't make a little animation as it comes off the rail"
Me: That sounds like a design flaw.
President: "Prepare to engage"
Dark Helmet: "What are you preparing, you're always preparing. Just go."
Michael DeVore lol gotta love space balls
When was this?
@@starkparker16 He's referring to the movie Space Balls, not to Independence Day
"I am your father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate."
@Methods Absolutely nothing!
Will Smith: "WHOS THE MAN???!"
Mover: "He's an alien and you lost half your squadron"...."Can you really do a victory cigar if you only shot down one?" hahaha
And He didn't even shoot it down, won because the enemy committed suicide xD
@@jasonsavage2406 Alien: "ok, Will Smith is better than me! Time to give up! "
Technically, if you only shoot down one, that is an ‘appetiser’ cigar.
I mean he managed to beat a 10th gen (?) alien starfighter with an energy shield so
I'imagine this film but instead we are the UNSC from Halo xd, (sorry, my english sucks xd)
The us military refused to help with the movie because the producer refused to remove the Area 51 references out of the movie.
I hope they regretted it. This movie makes you so pumped up to be an American.
Fun fact: During production , the US military gave full support to the film directors, offering bases to be used for sets and backdrops, vehicles such as helicopters, tanks, humvee’s, and uniforms for the actors and extras. But, once the military found out about the Area 51 in the script, they completely pulled out.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know conspiracy theorists foam at their mouths learning about this but judging by the Qanon insanity, the events of the past few years, they would much prefer dumbasses to stay away from military installations.
:/ makes you wonder... I mean.. we're not done. we've seen unsolved mysteries.... only time will tell when they'll reveal themselves ig
@@AloneInWonder2683 Area 51 is the test base for new aircraft. We know the tested the first stealth planes there. If they had alien stuff, they wouldn’t be keeping it there. It’d be in a place that officially does not exist.
@@AloneInWonder2683 area 51 and 52 are classified due to keeping forgein jets and also developing advanced sircraft, if you want to find aliens or secret stuff you would most likley find them in bunkers.
That plane was flying on Will Smith's charisma, alone. If Will Smith climbed into a cardboard box, it would have flown as well and with a full payload.
Full payload that never depletes :)
And it would have been a full payload of canyons.
And more accurate cockpit displays.
will smith's charisma is basically a space ork
@@TheKurtkapan34 but he's fighting xenos tho so he's protected by the emperor's light
I'm impressed that they got this much right considering the military refused to work with them.
Well... The military helped with "Olympus has fallen", and we know how that one turned out...
How did they get the flight suits or the aircraft? They even used a real marine corps squadron the black knights which just became an f35 squadron.
I was a kid when this came out, i remember it was in the news that the military wouldn't help out unless they dropped the Area 51 references. All other props are standard hollywood props.
I was stationed at EL Toro when this was being made. Parts of it were filmed there, I dont know which parts specifically, but the base newspaper had a picture of Will Smith sitting in one of VMFA-314's hornets and the article was about the movie being filmed on base, so the military cooperated at least a little bit.
They probably just did their homework, got some good technical advisors, and actually listened to them.
Will Smith: Ima line up all y'all friends right beside you!
Moover: You're gonna need more canyons.
I about hit the dirt.😂
Man goes into jet, jet goes into canyon. Alien's in the canyon. Our alien.
I completely lost it at “aaaand his canopy is open”. 😂
I imagine that’s exactly how the Marines fly their jets into alien territory.
The speech was written as a placeholder, but Emmerich and Devlin forgot to work on it until Bill Pullman started rehearsing on set. His performance was so bombastic that the extras and crew were cheering, causing the speech to be left as it was.
Just proof that it’s never too late to procrastinate
@@DonnieDin 😁😂
Yeah - the writing of the speech is not that great at all (it even has a rhyme which feels unintentional :D ) - its the delivery that sells it so well.
Yea it's filmed really well too with the corny crachendo of music swelling and ofcourse the delivery.
The same for Celine Dion's Titanic theme. That was a demo to play for Cameron.
Will Smith is getting around great on his two shattered legs.
Along with his back and pelvis... VA be like, We'll give you 10%..
I watched this with my brother, when Smith gets up and starts yelling at the alien ship I asked him, "So is that typical Marine behavior?"
"Yup."
I was a kid when I first saw this. I remember thinking I don't think you're supposed to hit the ground that hard.
@@SiLvErWaRe000 Yeah, if that wasn't a stuntman then it was a flight suit full of sand.
@@ninjabearpress2574 We wouldn't want them any other way
When I was on active duty, the Marines had not formalized the flight suit as a uniform like the AF did. We were not allowed to wear a flight suit off the squadron area or flight line. Hence the locker room. On the other hand, it allowed you to decorate your flight suit as you wished. I'm sure are things are different today. Callsign Trickster.
*Fun Fact:* The character "Bob" in Top Gun: Maverick is portrayed by Bill Pullman's son, Lewis.
That wasn’t very fun
That's so cool!
"Where's my Laser, Bob?"
*Angry Marine noises hurling crayons at screen, 'SOLDIER!!?!?!!'
Ok, "sailor".
@@octaviondeminicolas1941 "okay, Boot'
what do you call a person who serves in the military, in general, GI?
Worst Girl Service member
@@octaviondeminicolas1941 Did you hear about the one where the Marine tried to cross the Atlantic?
10:24 "They're going to get blown up because the Air Force refused to cooperate. Typical." 🤣🤣🤣
16:31
Still rolling their eyes at his claim of being abducted by aliens......in the midst of an alien invasion.
16:45 I love everyone's expression at that scene. Russel was always the character that made me laugh with the "kidnapped by aliens" motif. But then when actual aliens show up and destroy everything, you can just tell how nobody is willing to refute his story now that a past kidnapping by extraterrestrials is a plausibility. It never fails to make me laugh seeing everyone else solemnly taking the story so seriously at this point. XD
the 1 million question remain unanswered thou "Did the alien do something seksualy to him?"
13:45 I've been in the Air Force long enough to know that the most unrealistic thing about this movie is a member of SF not shooting somebody when they finally get a valid opportunity to.
Also Apple uses alien OS which is how the humans knew how to make a virus that would work on alien OS.
That speech has given me chills since I was a kid.
No kidding bro 💯
Still does every time I hear it...and I'm not even American, lmao.
It is a badass speech. I think that speech made the difference between this movie being cheesy and you being emotionally invested.
After that speech, you're kinda like, "Okay, it's time to kick some Fuck'n ass."
And then u get an american liberty boner.
..Well I do..
The way the alien weapon works is that it fires a harmless targeting beam (basically just a bright light) before it actually releases the destructive pulse. Russell's plane hit the ship just as the destructive part of the weapon was about to fire, which caused it to backfire.
Attention to detail...
The main weapon had that beam that went before the actual fire blast, so cousin Eddie still got in before the blast was able to be fired
Essentially he put a finger in the gun...causing the weapon to literally shoot itself
They salvaged the alien technology and they made the F-22 and the F-35.
that movie should not have existed and in the minds of many it does not, the good thing is that it was so bad that it killed any possibility of a sequel
They developed the F22 in the mid 90s. Which means whatever they have now, you won't know about it for another 15-25 years.
@@d.olivergutierrez8690 yeah its funny until i watched this vid i forgot they made a sequel.. that movie was sooo nuts its not even funny.. even if will had came back for it, it could not be salvaged.. like they had all these ideas and couldnt coherently place it into one movie.
The big speech is one of the best in movie history. Fun fact: BBC Radio actually produced an audio tie-in with Independence Day called "Independence Day UK", which shows the RAF's response to the invasion and basically has the line "the yanks'll take the credit for it, you wait and see" towards the end, which I quite liked.
Nice :D
Well, the yanks did come up with how to lower the shields and counterattack so.....
@@Fede_uyz they also had an alien fighter for 50 years wich hold the key to beat them and told no one .. had the world be able to acess and investigate that ship maybe the world would been able to counterattack earlier or defense and millions lives could be saved.. even the US military were utterly annoyed at the decision
@@sparrowlt It was on a need to know basis
The Britts are like Vegans, they just have to tell everybody they are UK.
I swear that this whole movie sorta feels like Star Wars…
Humans in fighter jets fighting Aliens and flying Death Stars with a lot of dogfighting involved!
"Oh there's the Iraqis we're friends now" lol
It is "I'm at 7 (o' clock)", not "I'm F7" and "take flanking positions", not "take viking positions" and I'm probably ruining a joke.
Have you heard about the original ending? Where Russel Case is denied from taking a part in the attack on the account of being drunk, but when they ask for that "someone with missile" at the end, he shows up with a missile.... strapped to his cropduster. It was actually filmed like that but didn't survive test screening.
Dear lord that would have ruined the movie.
00ICU812 the movie is so cheesy it would have fit right in.
True, but a biplane rolling it would have jumped the shark. Back in the 90's it didnt seem too cheesy, but I was a teenager back then too.
Thanks for writing this so I didn’t have to.
Yeah they changed it because they wanted they wanted to show his last minute decision to sacrifice himself.. with the missile strapped to the biplane it would have been a suicide mission from wheels up.
Missed the best line...
*missile launch*
"Oh crap ... I picked a hell of a day to quit drinkin"
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 I picket hell of a day to quit sniffing glue.
Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit drinking!
@John C. That's actually a valid possibility.
I don't know about the airplane stuff, but the guy holding the pistol with his finger on the trigger at 14:45 certainly caught my attention. Especially at 14:55 when he point it directly at the guy across the table.
That always stood out to me too. Finger within the trigger guard and refusing to put it down even when handed documents.
"And the canopy is open" I lost it 🤣
Mover’s delivery on that was perfect
Why do we not have russel k shirts that say "I can fly. I'm pilot"
Seconded. I'd totally buy that. And I'm not even a pilot.
"I'd buy that for a dollar!" LOL
I can make one for ya!!
“I picked a helluva time to quit drinkin.”
Captain Hiller had himself an “entanglement” with aliens...
Or was it an engagement? 🤣 Back in the day we also called it a blind date 🤣🤣🤣
Stripper girlfriend was more loyal lol
oof
🤣🤣🤣
Movie: “who is that guy?”
Mover: “who cares?”
Me : *dying* 😆😂
About all the random planes at Area 51: according to the novelization, Area 51 is where all the Skunk Works designs went for testing, and then they never got rid of them. Hence having Vipers, Tigers, and Hornets, plus a bunch of other birds that are mentioned in the novel that never appear on screen because of budgeting.
Great video as usual. I was a little surprised you forgot to mention the most realistic part of the movie: a marine engaged to a stripper who already has a kid.
God that’s funny.
Since the corps isn't rich enough to issue everyone a wife, you just take whichever one you can find and promise to give her half your shit when she divorces you
I saw this as a 16-year old, and even then I remember questioning how AMRAAM or Sidewinder missiles would do any damage to something the size of a city, even if the alien ship didn't have shields.
I always question why they looked like harpoon missles, myself
They already had the blueprints that R2D2 delivered and knew where all the exhaust ports were. It was a top secret mission that John Lennon went on years earlier faking his death and killing Kurt Cobaine to go under cover in his place on a top secret mission to infiltrate the alien mothership with soothing music. After he was found and killed, the government faked Kurt's/(Lennon in disguise) suicide to cover it up. Although luckily not before Lennon was able to give the blueprints to R2D2 right before he was discovered. Hence, John Lennon is the real hero.
@@jeffreyhemphill3831 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, I was like, "If we got this virus going, NOW would be a good time to launch those Nukes at it!!"
Or why they had to fire them from 5 feet away..
The reason a lot of the Marines at the start were in their best or dress uniforms was because most of them had the 4th July holiday off (as explained in a throwaway line).
Surprised you didn't object to the IAF having Hornets - they'd have F-15s or F-16s
Whitmore flew the F-16 in the Gulf War but the avis on the -18 are more or less similar so he'd get the hang of it quickly.
23:37 ... I think that green light is sort of supposed to act like the alien version of a laser or something. Not that I know why you would need a typical laser at that scale, but if you check the scenes where the ships destroyed NY, DC and Los Angeles, the green beam is not what actually destroys the buildings, but the pulse that comes down along the beam is.
I assume it’s more like if you turn on a REALLY bright light down a tube, the energy was forming at the top but all the light was going straight down because of a funneling effect that the energy would go down once it was ready, so the light was t hurting him because it was literally just the light from the beam
At 6:04 if you freeze frame, you'll see the missile being fired is not an AMRAAM; it's a Harpoon anti-ship missile.
anti-spaceship - checks out
Well, it was fired at a ship after all. Honestly, for a target of that size? Pack the weapons stations full of Mavericks, Phoenix'es, rocket packs, HARMs or hell, just throw JDAMs at the flyin city. No need to bother with bringback capacity, they'll either come back winchester or they don't... come back that is.
@@cam545 I agree. Leaving the ship's shields out of it, Harpoons would probably have been better than AMRAAMs.
A ship that big why use AAMs you could fire a air to ground missile at it or bomb it from above a Harpoon prob wouldnt work though idk
@@nightofthunder5509 a harpoon is made for anti ship operations. It has the warhead to sink a destroyer sized ship after being hit 2-3 times
The only thing it struggles with is the ship's defences such as CIWS or missiles. Even a super short burst of CIWS is enough to destroy the harpoon
And bombs usually fall with gravity (yes they are guided, but gravity is what pulls them down to the earth) and are slower than AG Missiles. Making them even more vulnerable to the ship's anti missile countermeasure.
23:00 the beam is a guiding beam for the weapon charge, and is largely just Radiation until the weapon discharges down the beam, until the weapon pulse discharges its just a glorified laser sight
"I can't breathe! I'm gonna take off the thing that helps me breathe!"
-Literally every hollywood pilot ever
I’ve been waiting for this breakdown for 20 years! Thanks.
To be fair. A gentle left hand bank was an extremely effective evasion maneuver in Star Wars!
He should have tried spinning, that's a good trick!
You mean listing lazily to the left?
" All warning lights on, this jet is not doing so hot".. Man that made my day!!! LOL
23:50 - Randy Quaid sacrificed himself to blow up the aliens and then President Pullman called him an SOB. How rude.
FYI the end attack by Randy Quaid was initially filmed with him in a biplane with the nuke strapped to the side of the fuselage. Many of the harnesses used Capewell connectors which are only used with backpack chutes, and the ejection seats were Phantom H-7 seats. Lots to pick apart from an ejection seat nerd view. Did love the 'sack of potatoes' PLF
I kinda wish they left that in, to be honest. Russell getting kicked out of the jetfighters for being a screw-up, and then showing up anyway with a bomb/missile strapped to his biplane for the 11th-hour hail-Mary is such a great concept.
@@SynchronizorVideos They have that ending as a deleted scene on the blu-ray. It's actually pretty terrible- how is the biplane keeping up with Hornets and alien fighter craft? How in the hell did Russell get his hands on a nuke? How is the biplane even able to carry it? As for why the Hornet wasn't disintegrated as it flew up the beam, I always took that beam as a targeting beam. The destructive part is shot down that beam after it locks onto a target.
@@anakinflair It's painfully stupid (like the entirety of the sequel). And also sad that he went up there intending to commit suicide. The theatrical ending is much better, he sacrificed himself for his children.
@@anakinflair The F-18 wasn't disintegrated because the beam was on but charging as it was a pulse beam weapon. The light just kinda let everyone know it was on and what it was aiming at.
The thin beam that fires first is a guiding laser, it ionizes the air and creates a path for the actual weapon (plasma) to follow. Should the laser have taken out Randy by itself? Probably.
It's mostly harmless... just like the guidance beam in Akira when the satellite is about to fire on Tetsuo. At worst it can give you a 1st degree burn.
It's just a light beam.
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 Yeah, pretty sure everyone is aware it's not a documentary.
@@Linerunner99 THANKS FOR THE SPOILER
Sure, but an electrolaser path beam that huge should be powerful enough to not be harmless :P
(Remember how much power you need to ionize the air in a long column to start with)
I went to Marine Corps boot camp a month after this movie released. My Dad took me to see it, and I was so damn proud that the pilots were Marines. Fast forward a few months, and I was at the School of Infantry on Camp Pendleton. We weren't allowed to leave the base for the duration so the USO was our only form of entertainment. They played Independence Day every...single...night. I got so tired of this movie, I haven't seen it since, lol.
Just wondering if you’ve seen Independence Day again?
I remember a similar thing at Reception Battalion in Benning, right before my OSUT (Basic/AIT). I am still sick of hearing Lee Greenwood's I'm Proud To Be An American!
This is one of the saddest funny stories I’ve ever heard, oh man lol. I can’t imagine watching it a second time and ruining the magic, let alone dozens of times.
@@Svensk7119 fake news. It's impossible to get tired of hearing Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA". Scientifically proven
@@pushups2345 Humph! No such thing as impossible. When they play it like a playlist, only you don't have power over it.... Yeesh!
Greatest movie speech indeed, I memorized it when it came out due to watching it so much and I still remember it nearly 25 years later.
The absolute most realistic thing is the govt asking people to "please, dont shoot at it.... come on guys, no need to shoot at anything that moves"
"Run away in honor"🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Greatest speech in movie history" right on target there Mover!! like a Movie version of Churchill's speech.
You can add comedian to your long list of can/have done.. Your timing and delivery are spot on..
7:47 "Run away with honour"
You clearly haven't heard The Tale of Sir Robin
Brave sir robin. Pissed his pants and ran away
"Bravely bold Sir Robin, Sir Robin ran away away! He bravely ran away away! When danger reared it's ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.."
@@animaltvi9515 I'm pretty sure that's the only strategy he knows.
From what I understand the film crew was allowed to film some shots in side a hornet on the ground. Green screens where placed over parts of the displays so that the special effects guy could put what ever they wanted on the screens. That's why the stores display had all of warnings and cautions and a open canopy but a kind of correct stores display. Also looked it up B2 pilots do have mask.
"It's always raining in Russia" could be a sequel series to "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia".
"And.............. the canopy is open" literally made me laugh out loud, thank you for that.
Me too.
Same, lol
"Anyone with flight experience?"
"I FLY DCS ON THE WEEKENDS!"
FYI, this was mostly NOT CGI. This was one of the last big sci-fi movies to use almost all practical effects. I saw a lot of the models on display at a Planet Hollywood.
"Evasive Maneuvers" .."im glad you told us, we weren't going to evade" haha. It wasn’t covered in the briefing :P
Well considering that a lot of these guys had minutes of combat training, they probably wouldn't have evaded.
I’ve been waiting for this one! Well done!
Thank you for making me laugh out loud today Mover. Much appreciated my dude.
4:47 Alright so hes got every warning and caution light lit up... 😄😂🤣
*Mover, you should open every video with the saying and drawl of, "I can fly.....I'm pilot."*
Lol. That should be one
Quality content. Laughed out loud at "Target at 12 O'Clock"! I bet you were the funny guy in the squadron back in the day.
Thanks for the Memories... Loved this Movie
I watch that movie every 4th of July as part of my celebration! Great film!
Same. Along with the best sequel ID:R
Great reaction video, Mover!! Just a couple of minor things... 11:56 The Alien fighters also have shields which is why it was able to survive impact with the canyon wall. 22:18 He said "flanking positions" not Viking. 23:36 No, it wouldn't destroy the Hornet. In the establishing shot for the Alien primary weapon, we see the same light (targeting indicator maybe?) shining on the people standing on the roof of the high-rise. The light did nothing to them, it was the energy pulse when the weapon actually discharges that does the damage. Thanks again--love your videos!!
I had to watch a "Mover Ruins Movies", since I think the title is funny. This is my first one. Since Independence Day is one of my favourite movies, I decided to start with this one. I'm so glad I did! I thoroughly enjoyed your comments. It also reminded me of how my father and I would make snide remarks throughout movies in the 1970s. We could shred any movie we watched, and had such fun doing it. I'm off to watch more "Mover Ruins Movies". I'm so happy you're doing these!
I'm old enough to remember when they played Bill Pullman's speech on the morning news and were proud of it. My how times have changed.
Democrat leftists hate their own country, feel ashamed of what their country does (or did a long time ago), they blame current people who has nothing to do what they blamed about, and they embrace enemies and terrorists. I am not an American and even i can see it very clearly. Leftists are insane people.
I always get goosebumps when I hear this speech! EVERY TIME!
DCS Hornet pilot here. According to the movie I would be overqualified for the last battle :)
Me too! Only thing I haven't done is ramp start. Hard to use keyboard only commands in a VR helmet. That and I have trouble with Mavericks when I already had a tpod designated target.
Lately I've been cutting up Pensacola Wings of Gold and their mistakes. In I think the second episode she did a normal takeoff, all good, then emergency jettison her canopy and hit that big yellow button. Pro tips there.
Edit, oh, and me and the 1 wire were best of friends until lately. But hey, I had three more to catch me. Amazingly I only once landed in the maintenance deck
Great video man, your deadpan expertise sprinkled with random sass and throwaway lines is hilarious
I still love this movie too... I remember being up on Cape Cod at my dads house and we went to go see this on opening night. I've never seen a completely packed theater who had an audience so engaged with the feature as this movie. It was just opening night at a random cinema, nothing special other than it being the initial showing of the movie at that theater, and at the end the entire theater gave the movie a standing ovation. Something I can easily see for a good official premier with cast & whatnot attending but a standing ovation without any of the hype around cast & crew is something I never expected and have never seen since despite catching many good opening nights for other movies since then. It might sound sappy, but that was a night that I will remember till the day I die.
(and yeah, that has to be the most epic speech in movie history, the only other speech I can think of that comes close is Commander Shepard before the end of the suicide mission in Mass Effect 2... Mark Meer is good in his delivery but Jennifer Hale knocks it clean out of the park)
Meer still has his Canadian accent slip through every now and then
@@DeltaAssaultGaming When he slips, for the most part it isn't too bad.
"i've loved this movie since I was a kid" Man, I feel old now... Thanks.
As for whether President Whitmore's character had experience in the Hornet, I believe it's mentioned early on in the movie that he'd flown combat missions during Desert Storm prior to his presidential campaign, so it's possible that he was either in the Hornet or something contemporary to it such as the F-16 or F-15. Also surprised you didn't comment on how they seemed to be calling AGM-84 Harpoon anti-ship missiles "AMRAAMs" and using them in an air-to-air role instead of air-to-surface.
"We're gonna need a lot of canyons."
Line of the day :-D
I heard him say "marines" and misread "crayons"
Damn right you need a lot of crayons.
It's honestly such a fantastic speech...and sums up my youth in one movie.
Mover! I’ve read all your books, please release more! Thanks Mover!
“It’s always raining in Russia” lmao
8:36 "...when you go fast it doesn't make it hard to breathe." I always interpreted this moment like the pilot was just beginning to have a panic attack and reflex-removed his mask - not for any intelligent reason, but just because it's an instinct that can be hard to overcome during life-threatening moments. I've had two panic attacks in my life, and in both cases I felt like I couldn't breathe. If I'd had a mask on, I might have known it was wrong but pulled it off in that moment regardless. (I'm sure training would help with this - but I'm not sure if it would, for every pilot, in every scenario, guarantee that during a panic attack they didn't do something stupid.)
Additionally, if he was pulling even a couple Gs in the pull-up, the character might have had a bit of a "holy shit" feeling in his chest that kind of caused a brief but sharp downward mental spiral at that particular time. If he'd had a moment to think, he might have been OK. Then again, he'd have still probably gotten blasted by aliens.
Anyway, I'm interested in whether or not pilots generally understand the impact that a panic attack can have one one's cognition and physical capability during high stress scenarios. One would think it would be common knowledge, but this video doesn't acknowledge this possibility. This reminds me of how PTSD (or, as it was called in the 1940s, "combat stress") was not a real phenomenon, according to Gen. Curtis LeMay, who commanded B-17s in combat over Germany from 1942-1943. (Citation: Mission With LeMay, by Curtis LeMay & McKinlay Kantor; additional citations available upon request.) It would seem that if panic attacks can affect a combat pilot's capabilities so severely, it should perhaps be a better-understood phenomenon amongst pilots.
If anyone could help me to understand this better, it would be truly appreciated.
In the book (a novel after the first film) it says, these aliens are living in the hide from an animal species that lives on their home planet. They control the tentacles of their outer body by mere force of their mind.
Later in the movie there is the scene where the president negotiates with an alien at area 51 and suffers from a choking fit or from severe headache. Triggered by this observation a security guy decides to shoot the alien through the armored glass in order to protect the president from the mental influence.
My take from all of this is, the wingman is being attacked mentally in full flight by one of the pursuers. So taking off his mask is neither from a panic attack nor by the nature of his flight maneuvers.
Hi Mover, love the videos. Have you got any videos of you flying the Viper?
Will Smith: Who’s the man?! Mover: The Alien 😂
And whats that smell ? lool
Hahaha, you made me feel so OLD with this one! I had already completed my officer training and had left service for reserve when this came out.
Thx for breaking down most of my favorite scenes. I never even thought about movie vs real life technical details. I try to fly a Thrustmaster hooked to a PC lol. Kick ass alien movie.
Based on flying with the 314th at Miramar a couple times before they shut down Hornet ops... Will Smiths jet is probably accurately portrayed.
I never paid attention to this, but that reading of "situation critical" made me laughin' so hard! I guess it's for the audience, so they understand the situation IS critical :-D
"Nineties had the best presidents in movies"
Yeah. My guess is that was because at the time, the office wasn't as disrespected and universally reviled as it seems to have become these days. Fun what two decades of highly polarized politics can do.
The last good TV president was the Allstate guy in 24.
@@VisibilityFoggy Palmer, yes!
Thank you for sending me these T-shirts it meant so much to me I loved it have a great day and be safe
Thanks for review of my favourite movie. Whatever facts and flaws, it is still my best movie. The speech given by president before final encounter was awesome. I was just 25 then, but felt hot blood and its pressure in my body, its ecstasy. It gives the message that we will not vanish, will fight back and survive. The same we r feeling again, this time with China conflicts with us and corona. It gives us courage to fight still now. Again lot of thanks to u review this best movie of all time.
Mover, you need to sell a t-shirt that says in big letters, all caps "JINK!"
I’d buy it
Pleased heko me, what does it mean anyway?
heko should be "help"
@@nadineblachetta3202 to jink means to quickly/suddenly change direction!
"Does that Hornet say Air Force on it? Is it Canadian?"
No. Our F/A-18's (For whatever reason they designate it CF-188 here) only have the roundel and say Canada with a small Canadian flag on it. We had other aircraft that were marked RCAF and CAF back way back when.
They pitched the Tomcat to Canada in the same competition that resulted in the purchase of the CF-18s. It's something to think that Canada would still be flying them today, and maybe it would have even led to the U.S. keeping up development. In the end they narrowed it down to F-18 and F-16, eliminating the Tomcat, Mirage 2000, Panavia Tornado ADV and F-15. In hindsight, the F-15 would probably have been the best choice given range, interceptor ability and a development cycle that's still ongoing.
First off, Canadian Hornets do say 'RCAF' in front of the roundel. Second, nobody; I mean _nobody_ calls the CF-18 the 'CF-188' in casual conversation. Fighter pilots and crew chiefs in the RCAF call the airplane 'the CF-18' or simply, 'the F-18'. The name 'Hornet' is definitely used in conversation about the airplane (a crew chief once told me that the Hornet goes by several other unprintable/unutterable names).
As for the F-15 Eagle, it is too expensive, and is not a multirole fighter (a Canadian requirement). The F-15E lacks the F-18's agility, and who wants some WSO back-seat driving all the time?! And the Tomcat... More like Tom-Gobbler!!! Dan 'Two Dogs' Hampton considered them target practice, and so did Pete 'Boomer' Bonanni.
Source: I was a Royal Canadian Air Cadet for six years and it was in the days preceding the rabid political correctness movement. Unfortunately, the Cadet programs have been demilitarized to the point where they're little more than just another scout organization. It's too bad, really, and exceedingly disappointing.
It's off-topic, but for the record, I live in British Columbia, I _never_ say 'eh' (unless I'm mocking an easterner), and I hate hockey so much that I think it should be banned entirely and replaced with Crud. Furthermore, there is only ONE _right_ way to ride a horse, and it's WESTERN, Baby!!!
Good hunting and check 6!
@@DJones476 I was a cadet too for a number of years as well. At the national aviation museum (before the hornet was put on exhibit). But before I made this comment I did my homework first to make sure I wasn't talking out of my ass and I checked a bunch of pictures of cf-18s and none of the ones I saw said RCAF on them at all. Just the roundel and the word Canada with the maple leaf on them.
Edit: they USED to say Canadian Forces on them. But they don't anymore. The only one with the RCAF marking on it is the demonstrator.
@@DJones476 I'm a Toronto boy and I hate it here. My next move is an extended ride to the west.
@@happypapi1903 You'll love B.C.! We have the highest speed limits in the country, despite the mountainous terrain. It'll take some getting used to, but B.C. is a great place to rip around in a supercar!
That speech always gets me. Wish we had a leader like that today more than ever…
“Knight 3” that crashes, was being called “knight 7” whenever he fired his fox 2....