Don’t know anything about the Columbia Class but I can promise you a few of things: 1. It’ll be god awfully expensive; 2. It’ll be god awfully quiet and 3. You should probably steer well clear of it if you’re a near-peer adversary
I served on the first-gen nuke fast attack (SSN 612) in WESTPAC 1972 in Vietnam. Great boat for a first-gen, but these beauties are freaking awesome! Makes me just a little prouder to be an American, & glad I'm not in the PRC Navy
As a retired submariner, not bad. Some good nuggets of information and awesome and updated background video (man I miss Hawaii) There is of course tons that can't be mentioned not everything was 100% correct, no biggie. Also as a individual that recently worked with govt contractors that install certain systems into boats, don't expect the first patrol of these tridents to be on the schedule you provided. These new boats will have some of the latest and craziest tech onboard. They will be ultra quiet, deadly and with capabilities that required a lot of out of the box thinking. Keep up the good work.
Agree. I do hope the engineers/designers have ironed out the Turbine Electric Drive (TED) system. My first boat I was on was the USS Glenard P Lipscomb (SSN685). She was arguably the quietest submarine during her time in commission.
I''m extremly thrilled with this video. I appricate looking at all sides of the situation. As a post cold war submariner and a sailor that was part of the DECOM of one of the last Stuergon Class boats and my son on deployment on a Ohio Class boat I'm alwayse hoping for better TECH.
My dad, Jesse J. Bryant, Chief electrician, submarines Atlantic 1946-67 probably had some pretty cool stories to tell. He never talked and I never asked. Just stuck to my submarine novels i.e. torpedo running straight, hot, and normal. As a boiler technician on the U.S.S. Gridley CG-21 we called the electronic technicians ‘light bulb changers.’ I guess that just shows how well sorted out the Gridley was. Decommissioned. Now it’s U.S.S. Gridley DLG-21, and she can go from 30+knots to full stop in one ship length with only a shudder I hear. Love you guys. Stay smart. BT3 Bryant Advance boiler technician automatic combustion control operator L.M.E.T 6Y0(6 year obligator)10-17-84
The problems with the two shipyards mentioned is they’re overwhelmed. Because they are also performing overhauls on existing submarines. There was a strategic mistake made when Congress had two navy shipyards which perform overhauls closed.
You better get our act together performing overhauls on existing submarines because China is making their submarines as fast as a fast food place does when you order fries and a Coke and a hamburger
China is following Russian approach of pump out numbers, not quality built ships...and their crews are terribly trained, if you watch the news, you'll be in fear...if you know anyone in the US NAVY, our training has devolved into useless power points, but 688 sailors are still THE MEN of the deep.
@@_banana__6792 you want to hear the stupidest thing I've ever heard and why the United States has the ability to develop advanced weapons but as soon as they do the technology is stolen by the Chinese a company that has high tech military development in China has to have a Chinese representative within the American company to oversee what's happening within the company and this is okay all these companies should be withdrawn from China especially high-tech companies that are developing weapons for the military I just found out this information out from a news broadcast and it's been reviewed from people in our government and they think that's it's okay
@@_banana__6792 it doesn't matter that their subs are trash right now they're working on so many different fronts to defeat the West that you could stay up nights with nightmares did you know that they have access to all the major hospitals in the United States and their information about pregnant women and their DNA I just saw a report that the Chinese are developing weapons to attack the DNA in American citizens causing them to lose their balance their memory or their motor skills they're doing this by developing and spending billions of dollars on DNA research and this research is being done and targeting certain ethnic groups which can only mean everyone that lives in the United States these biological weapons will be designed to the Gino pool in living organisms they don't need submarines to defeat us they're going to do it with biological weapons that are supported by their military just like the coronavirus they have also denied access to their own populations of DNA Chinese quest for world domination continues they may be able to do it without firing a shot or dropping a bomb but they're hypersonic missiles are also on the table
having served in the sub fleet i can tell you this guy is only talking about 10 percent about the sub. just like you see on the surface 90 percent is underwater. this video is 10 percent, the other 90 percent is classified.
Not really because this sub is too big, to clumsy and not fit for our purpose. In fact there is no US submarine that fits the bill for Australia as they all require way too many personnel to operate.
@@PrezVeto Clumsy as in they are too big for the shallows to Australia's north. A boomer isn't going to be in shallow waters as it needs to be in the deep sea. What the US needs and what Australia needs in a submarine is completely different. We need something that is small and able to get in to the shallow and tight spaces to our north.
And of course, we know some things common to all U.S. Navy submarines. The Columbia class will be commanded by some of the brightest, most agile minds and motivated souls of any navy on the planet. They will be supported by logistics, training and maintenance/repair capabilities second to none. And their officers and crew will embrace and exemplify only the finest discipline, culture and traditions of the navies of the world.
You mean they dont use compurer systems?I propably could command a underwater steel coffin by learning how to handle some of it's computer system. With AI a totally automated sub could be implemented in the near future , which will not run into deep water mountains due intoxicated commanders and sleeping sonar operators
Don't forget doing the honors of Blowing Shit Up, if putin or Xi or Icranians are crazy enoupgh to successfully hit a U.S. land base. Less to say 20 nukes will be gifted Beautifully to them
For that kind of price, there better be an ice cream machine serving at least three flavors - vanilla, chocolate and strawberry. Spending 3 months inside a steel tube is dreadful work. Having comfort food relieves a lot of that work-related stress.
The US and UK aren't saying a lot about the Columbia and Dreadnought boats beyond the number of missile tubes, electric drives, common missile compartment and common fire control systems.
@@glamdring0007 Agreed, and they should be tight lipped Our enemies must not and will not know Anymore about these Secret Destructive Weapons of Mass cataclysmic Proportions.
For good reason. There's a lot of technology and innovations being built into these subs that is still highly classified with systems that have yet to be announced or known even by some of the highest branches in the military. Keeping this stuff unknown to them helps protect the power and capabilities these subs will harness. If our enemies don't know what we can do, that is exponential advantage. I doubt very little will be divulged in most of our lifetimes about these subs. There will only be the handful of submariners that even then only know exist but are not allowed to understand or discuss this technology. It's pretty impressive shit they are doing.
No Columbia class submarines uses the UGM-133A Trident II or also known Trident D5 missile ( year 1990 ) The Trident D5 is now called Trident D5LE ( Life - Extension ) .
This is like someone telling you they have the latest news on the latest greatest smartphone. You watch the video. And all they tell you is expected cost, where it will be built, and when it will be built. Viewers want to know the capabilities of the new submarine class. What weapons packages will it deploy with? What makes it better than previous classes? What role will it play once deployed? Why do other countries fear it? Can other countries hear it or find it when at sea?
Well it’s a ballistic missile submarine with 16 tubes and it goes on deterrence patrols. The Ohios are wearing out and needs replacement. It’s big, quiet and can end a country. Kinda self explanatory :)
I'm surprised that the navy has even divulged this much information on the Columbia class boats,...if it were up to me, not one shred of Intel would be discussed . China watches our every move.
@@algomes715 I promise you the smallest fraction of information has been released about this boat. Like a person above wrote getting near one of these things docked is next to impossible without all kinds of clearances. I'm pretty sure youtube content doesn't know anywhere near it's capability. This is just my opinion.
Great Video. Problems and setbacks occur. The upside is the US Military utilizes various ISO-9X processes and will turn out a much improved system. #Kaizen
With all the issues and problems facing US Subs, they are still the preeminent Submarine force in the world today, and the Columbia class subs will be the state of the art ballistic submarines of the future, the one notable Exception to this are the newest British submarines, which are arguably on a par with American submarines.
@@ireneuszpyc6684 Are you comparing a fighter jet to a ballistic Ohio Class, or Virginia Class sub? thats like comparing a high school football field to Giant stadium, just a little more complex dude.
@@michaelmancini5773 a jet fighter's 2 tactical nukes can flatten a small town (so 1 pilot's decision is enough); a Virginia-class sub's 20 strategic nukes can flatten half of Russia - so there's a need for a comittee of 15 onboard officers to agree beforehand?
@@ireneuszpyc6684 First of all there are codes to arm even tactical nukes on fighter jets, pilots can not release these weapons without having the codes to arm them, Sub Captains are under the same protocol only on a much higher level, and FYI, an Ohio class Trident submarine with 3 MIRVs on each of it's 24 ballistic missiles could destroy a lot more than "half of Russia", your not the expert you think you are buddy.
@@michaelmancini5773 subs are not automated enough: Virginia-class has 120 maintenance personnel on board - I think it's 120 too many - those guys should be replaced with computers & robots
There are rumors that Australia is in talks regarding Australia investing in expansion of US nuclear submarine manufacturing as part of the new AUKUS alliance.
That can work I think but the technology would have to be kept very secure. I believe it could well benefit the American and the Australian Navy working together. I believe the Australians are much more in need of attack submarines than missile boats.
@@Wick9876 those are not "tiles" on the VA class. It's applied in much larger sections, and that turned out to exacerbate the problem, rather than improve it. Curse of the class; and it's been a total shit-show in terms of accountability, too, just like everything else in the US government, ever since.
Not the government, it’s corporate contractors who bribe elected officials to ignore their profligate greed. If politicians actually represented their constituents they’d build in severe penalties for cost overruns.
@@davidanalyst671 China is not made in any direct threats to the United States that I know of but they are a big threat to us. One example is Taiwan makes a high percentage of microchips used in the US, if China did invade Taiwan our microchip supply would be severely threatened or cut off.
No. The night before the keel laying ceremony, they officially changed the name of the lead ship to "District of Columbia" to avoid having two ships with the same name.
The three most powerful men in the world: 1) The President of the United States of America 2) The President of the Russian Republic 3) The Captain of a United States ballistic missile submarine.
I think the AUKUS deal will more likely work out as Australia building a version of the UK's Astute Class attack boats. They would have UK ship builders go to OZ to train the Australians in nuclear submarine construction. The US contribution would be using American systems American sourced nuclear fuel, and American weapons. I have heard that the Australians will go with the British Astute class,because it needs a smaller crew to run it. That means a smaller overall submarine staffing that needs to be spread out over the expected 12 boats.
Any idea what steel we are up to? It was HY 90 in the 80s, and were supposed to HY 130. No refuel over 42 years, probably 35+ years not in refit, meaning EFPH of 35k hours? I assume the use of electric drive, turbine turns generator at high rpm, motor to shaft runs at low rpm, noise is the bigger factor so it does need to be more efficient. On carriers, I think they should run the diesel generators and auxiliary boilers frequently to extend reactor life
@@stevenmassey7586 its not steam, but the pumps - I seem to recall feed pumps or reactor coolant pumps were most noisy? condensate pumps less so? the feed pumps had to achieve high pressure delta. the RCP had high volume to keep the temp delta between cold and hot narrow. The Ohio's had natural circulation capability at low power. But true, steam plants are complicated with many pumps, while some form of electric (or AIP?) can get really quiet at idle or low speed, that steam cannot
@@joechang8696 my understanding is the condensate is a noise issue, clearly I'm no expert but temp change during condensation had in the past been a problem but hell it 40 years ago I was in the shower fleet.
Those are actually called fairwater planes. They allow depth control without pitching the submarine. Much smoother depth control plus you don't have to worry about the planes contacting docks and stuff. Also, submarines don't spend much time on the surface so the minuscule impact that you are asking about is pretty much irrelevant.
Wow...hold on everyone...we have an expert marine engineer naval architect in the house. He just blew-away a hundred years of ship-building methodology and design in one comment. What was everyone thinking all these years??? Stop everything. Throw out all design software. All those calculations and models were wrong! New designs are to commence immediately - move all planes to the hull!!!
How is it more efficient to have the steam pass through a steam turbine to make electricity and then convert the electrify to motive power. Instead of passing the steam through a steam turbine connected to the prop via a reduction gears? I thought steam propulsion was more efficient, that's why it was used, but electric was quieter (no reduction gears).
@@bigbubba4314 Right which is why I said "was quieter (no reduction gears)." I think he is mis-interpreting the statement about 80% of the power going to propulsion. 80% of power goes to propulsion at top speed because that is what it takes to move at their top speed. They also generate all the electricity they need while doing so, it's not a disadvantage.
The Columbia Class will not just be the next Ballistic Missile Submarine. It will also be the basis for America's next attack submarine aka SSN(X). This will have a 13m diameter hull, electric drive and displace about 10,000 tons, which is exactly a Columbia without the 70m missile section and the SLBM hump.
Electric drive… woawww. That’s not like the French nuclear submarines have been using it for 40 years and that all conventional subs around the world use it…. So new… Same goes for the C shaped rudder, or X shaped plus pump jet in the case of the French..
Great video, my friend. Looking forward to seeing the capabilities of this new submarine when it enters service. However, I hope that our elected officials and our military leaders realize that the days of wasteful and reckless spending related to “research and development” are gone. Our beloved Republic can no longing ignore the national debt in the neighborhood of $45-65 TRILLION DOLLARS which is crushing our nation. I have often wondered why the United States has not invested in the development and expansion of shipyards to accelerate production, retrofitting and repairs. ?🤔
Best Money We Spend! While in the Navy and in a conversation with several high ranking Admirals, one said that only 3 people in the government know where these submarines are in the world at any one time and 2 of them are NOT politicians, That is 1 Too Many IMO> Politicians should be banned from making Any decisions for the military, again in my opinion, I say so based on their history of making very bad decisions.
Now there are only two people on the planet who know where our submarines are located. Both are Naval officers. The President doesn't know where he is, let alone where the submarines are located.
Some people find electric cars and smart phones to be interesting. Yawn. These vessels and the men that serve on them are what I find to be fascinating. While we are walking around up here making money and polluting the earth, they are down there making sure we get to see the next day.
It's going to take NINE YEARS to build the first one!?!! What union negotiated THAT contract? God help us if we get in a war and it takes a decade to put a boat in the water!
It takes 9 years to build the factory and learn how to build the boat. Boat#2 is actually already under construction After the first one, they'll be pumping out one a year
I did over 15 month of research on the Columbia Class Submarines, up to 18 hours a day 7 days a week and lead me to a shocking discovery, not even sure if I should post it here, but I will.... They can go UNDER water! :O
Electrical propulsion systems should be simpler than mechanical drive steam turbines. Podded drives have been common on merchant ships for some years, so much of the technology should be mature, should being the critical word
@@rayRay-pw6gz the new RN Dreadnaught class are reported to have an electric drive system with the main drive motor outside the pressure hull, all RN Submarines use a propulser, for reduced noise
Complexity of the machine has never been a significant problem for our Sailors to overcome. Complexities of "Big Navy" and the government supply and procurement systems are another long and painful story...
Ok I'm Army not Navy but this is bugging me...every time I hear "ship" when ITS A BOAT!!! I know I know it;s a personal thing...it just irritates me...
Depending on how they made the all electric drive system it won’t be the first times it’s been used on a submarine. The USS Narwhal had an electric drive
What do you mean electric drive? The Narwhal had a turbine reduction direct drive. Yes, it was one of a kind and the quietest boat of her time but it was not electric drive.
It was SSN 685. USS Glenard P Lipscomb. Comissioned in 1974. I arrived in 1975 june. We were the longest advanced 637 class . Two others which were Richard B Russell and L Mendel Rivers.. 685 was electric drive. At the time we were the most silent attack boat other than a diesel boat.
Just to let you know a submarine is not a ship it is a boat. It's interesting to learn something new but I still like my current fast attack Subs that was stationed with
Our submarines are commonly referred to as "ship", "warship" and "boat", by their Submarine Qualified crews, interchangeably. And sometimes other names...
tell 'em how many decades ago "firm fixed price" bidding was replaced with "cost +". then chart the delta of DoD or most any, federal, project health. or tell em how Apollo come in on budget on time.
Electric Boat is said to be looking for 3500 people to hire at their yard on top of who they employee now so they are dealing with the bottle neck they have.
14 billion and change per sub you say. More likely 25 to 30. We all know how this goes. Funny that the cost of just one of these subs could pay for a wall on our southern border. I love our military. But I loathe the military leadership, the contractors, the DOD and Pentagon. Not one of them will be in the chow line on taco night at a depth of 600 feet. They are not worthy of cleaning latrines.
Your estimate is way off. The first one is just south of 14 billion because all of the design and new systems testing is allocated to the first unit. The follow on hulls are closer to 9 billion and during the build program increased for inflation that gives you the 113 billion total for the 12 ship class.
For submarines - stealth is more important than speed. You want your submarines to be acoustic holes in the ocean. I interviewed with Admiral Rickover (you need to date me with Carbon 14 - I’m 63 - I didn’t get selected). I’m still in awe of a plant that can last 42 years without a refueling - Being a chemistry Major - there’s some Mr Wizard stuff going on in the reactor.
There are rumors that Australia is in talks with US defense about Australia investing in expansion of US nuclear submarine manufacturing, with two Virginias built in US shipyards for Australia while a third nuclear submarine shipyard is built in Australia with a further eight Virginia's to be built for Australia there, and long term benefits for US submarine building. However there are similar talks in the UK for a similar project building Astute's for Australia. There has been an Australian government confirmation that a decision will be announced in March 2023. Rumors had pegged the Virginia project as the front runner, but the British government has been pushing hard. Also there has been confirmation that Australian submariners are already in traing in the UK, and on the 31st of August Boris Johnson announced that Australian sailors will be serving on the new HMS Anson as Australia develops its nuclear submarine capabilities. The first Australian nuclear boat is expected to be in the water by the early 2030's, which is only possible by going with an existing design. As the cost of American submarine builds increase, investment by a close ally may be valuable for America's own submarine building program, including for the Columbia-class, and the expansion of the total Virginia fleet due to extra subs in the Australian navy can only be helpful as we face mutual dangers from China and Russia in decades to come.
The Ausies will go with the British Astute class. The main issue faced by the RAn sub service is manpower and the Astute is much more automated than the Virginia and slightly smaller
@@davidanalyst671 i think this is only part of the reason for France's meltdown over this. Its looking like the unidentified country that clown and his wife were selling a bunch of Virginia class info on was France. They gave us a ring about those dipshits, 9 months later. No doubt some late night reading before getting ahold of us about it.
@@domoyakyak probably the most logical, its not a quick turnaround to get people up to us/uk standards on everything to run that safely. A few buddies were nukes and i want to say it was almost 2 years just for educational quals, not including getting dolphins on one. I still wonder if theyll take a ohio or la class and use it with our guys as a sort of stopgap and otj training before theyre decommed.
@@mtmadigan82 the story is not the story!! pay attention!!! WHY did france have a meltdown and pull their ambassadors for a military contract? Because we wanted to tell china that we were making super sneaky subs that nobody can detect, and we are going to give them to Australia. Thats why. The whole france thing was to make sure it stays in the news. We are sending super secret subs to australia
Realistically, the general public should know very little about these submarines. Everything about them is interim-Top Secret. Even on Naval bases, only submariners are allowed on that part of the base where submarines are docked. Other sailors attached to surface warfare vessels cannot access that area. It's very strict, indeed.
I would have thought a submarine built now could be designed to operate with far fewer crew, but no. Seriously, 45 years later and the crew compliment is basically the same, at about 155 members for Columbia Class Exactlay the same as the Ohio class.
I'm not positive but I'm guessing deployment length has a lot to do with it. From what I understand these boats stay out longer requiring more crew to keep everyone fresh and not over worked. Just an idea.
s it ready today to take on Swedish and German silent submarines because it couldn't do that at the time, they were clearly a hole in the water that it didn't see or should I say heard (discovered).
Ah; you’re talking about the coastal submarines with Sterling engines. We rented one for a few years to learn how to counter it. We also can’t use them because the deployment/submerged times are way too short for the US.
@@tatataloo5217 I know, and it shows how bad your own were. It sank an aircraft carrier. After that the US had to lease it for another 2 years. Nothing has emerged of the development during the 2 years. Submarines go by hearing and these are incredibly quiet because of the machine type. Collisions still happen below the surface so they don't hear each other, and it's sort of US powered submarine types.
@@pluss400 it doesn’t show that US sonar is bad by any means; just that there was a weakness in that particular scenario to that particular sub type using that particular tactic of sitting still and not moving at all, and we leased the sub to put it through tests to figure out how to detect it. A lot came from that. If US sonar tech was bad we wouldn’t be able to find all those sunk Russian subs before the Russians do.
@@tatataloo5217 Sonar is not a perfect tool, but when human life depends on HEARING EVERYTHING, a sonar system that is average is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Then you have to rely on other means and in recent years silence has been the submarine's first protection, which US submarines are not.
@@pluss400 so, you keep repeating th the same talking points in broken English and seem to have a hard time keeping a linear thought. I can only assume your source for all this is “The Hunt for Red October.” American subs are the quietest in the ocean; especially the new generation of boats hitting the water. Not boats meant to operate in specific areas and shallow water; the ocean. Russian boats are notoriously loud and all date back to the Cold War and the Chinese aren’t much better. Even if they were, the globe spanning listening posts would negate that advantage.
Don't say much about the capability of the sub....LOL....So how to assess if it is value for money or game-changer? Simple metrics like how stealthy, speed or diving depth? Doesn't have to be accurate since they are classified but at least a rough estimation? How does it compared to Russian or Chinese latest sub? Are we just gonna assume the Columbia class is more superior?
Well there is one important thing to remember. Both of those Countries have practiced playing football (War) and have yet to play a game. Unlike them America is well practiced game playing Superbowl champ so the other teams are just don't stand a Chance.
@@SkinE-Vadee-Veechee In terms of submarine warfare, I would say the Russian are just as good if not better than the US. Russian submarines are also as good if not better than the US. As for the Chinese, they still have some catching up to do but we don't have to reinvent the wheel nowadays do we? Closing the gap will be faster than you think....
yes, the USA is going to leak details on how it compares to russian and chinese subs. The most stealthy and secretive weapons platform in the world, and we gonna tell you the details of how it works
The newest Columbia class submarine are superior but we still need the Ohio for backup. Let start building more submarines in case a war breaks out. Especially in china sea. Just remember having submarines have the enemies nervous? The Ohio’s submarine only needs an upgrade of the latest technology. Let’s keep that submarine active.
Thanks everyone for the kind words with coming back. I do plan on making more videos here pretty soon.
When?
Don’t know anything about the Columbia Class but I can promise you a few of things: 1. It’ll be god awfully expensive; 2. It’ll be god awfully quiet and 3. You should probably steer well clear of it if you’re a near-peer adversary
I served on the first-gen nuke fast attack (SSN 612) in WESTPAC 1972 in Vietnam. Great boat for a first-gen, but these beauties are freaking awesome! Makes me just a little prouder to be an American, & glad I'm not in the PRC Navy
The Columbia is a boomer, it will steer clear of you
As a retired submariner, not bad. Some good nuggets of information and awesome and updated background video (man I miss Hawaii) There is of course tons that can't be mentioned not everything was 100% correct, no biggie. Also as a individual that recently worked with govt contractors that install certain systems into boats, don't expect the first patrol of these tridents to be on the schedule you provided. These new boats will have some of the latest and craziest tech onboard. They will be ultra quiet, deadly and with capabilities that required a lot of out of the box thinking. Keep up the good work.
Would they be able to lock on a moving enemy fighter plane and hit it from underwater?
Agree. I do hope the engineers/designers have ironed out the Turbine Electric Drive (TED) system. My first boat I was on was the USS Glenard P Lipscomb (SSN685). She was arguably the quietest submarine during her time in commission.
Finally someone who's not dumb. You did a great job.
I''m extremly thrilled with this video. I appricate looking at all sides of the situation. As a post cold war submariner and a sailor that was part of the DECOM of one of the last Stuergon Class boats and my son on deployment on a Ohio Class boat I'm alwayse hoping for better TECH.
Yessss a new military channel I haven't seen yet hope there's a playlist so I can listen at work all night
Some in-depth info on the propulsion system of the new class would be interesting for an upcoming video. Much appreciated!
Run Silent, Run Deep.. OORAH !
That bug that appeared at 7:40 (3 o'clock and a quarter of the width out) made me tap my screen.
Outstanding narration.
My dad, Jesse J. Bryant, Chief electrician, submarines Atlantic 1946-67 probably had some pretty cool stories to tell. He never talked and I never asked. Just stuck to my submarine novels i.e. torpedo running straight, hot, and normal. As a boiler technician on the U.S.S. Gridley CG-21 we called the electronic technicians ‘light bulb changers.’ I guess that just shows how well sorted out the Gridley was. Decommissioned. Now it’s U.S.S. Gridley DLG-21, and she can go from 30+knots to full stop in one ship length with only a shudder I hear. Love you guys. Stay smart. BT3 Bryant Advance boiler technician automatic combustion control operator L.M.E.T 6Y0(6 year obligator)10-17-84
The USS Normandy CG 60 still sailing strong
The problems with the two shipyards mentioned is they’re overwhelmed. Because they are also performing overhauls on existing submarines. There was a strategic mistake made when Congress had two navy shipyards which perform overhauls closed.
You better get our act together performing overhauls on existing submarines because China is making their submarines as fast as a fast food place does when you order fries and a Coke and a hamburger
China is following Russian approach of pump out numbers, not quality built ships...and their crews are terribly trained, if you watch the news, you'll be in fear...if you know anyone in the US NAVY, our training has devolved into useless power points, but 688 sailors are still THE MEN of the deep.
@@joelbell9082 Chinese subs aren't worth mentioning, they're fucking trash.
@@_banana__6792 you want to hear the stupidest thing I've ever heard and why the United States has the ability to develop advanced weapons but as soon as they do the technology is stolen by the Chinese a company that has high tech military development in China has to have a Chinese representative within the American company to oversee what's happening within the company and this is okay all these companies should be withdrawn from China especially high-tech companies that are developing weapons for the military I just found out this information out from a news broadcast and it's been reviewed from people in our government and they think that's it's okay
@@_banana__6792 it doesn't matter that their subs are trash right now they're working on so many different fronts to defeat the West that you could stay up nights with nightmares did you know that they have access to all the major hospitals in the United States and their information about pregnant women and their DNA I just saw a report that the Chinese are developing weapons to attack the DNA in American citizens causing them to lose their balance their memory or their motor skills they're doing this by developing and spending billions of dollars on DNA research and this research is being done and targeting certain ethnic groups which can only mean everyone that lives in the United States these biological weapons will be designed to the Gino pool in living organisms they don't need submarines to defeat us they're going to do it with biological weapons that are supported by their military just like the coronavirus they have also denied access to their own populations of DNA Chinese quest for world domination continues they may be able to do it without firing a shot or dropping a bomb but they're hypersonic missiles are also on the table
Electric oat in Groton easily has the facilities to handle both types at the same time.
The ship yard in Quonset Point easily does a good bit of heavy lifting too
What is the name of your background music? Roofers At Work?
Good video
having served in the sub fleet i can tell you this guy is only talking about 10 percent about the sub. just like you see on the surface 90 percent is underwater. this video is 10 percent, the other 90 percent is classified.
I can agree
Were you stationed east or west coast?
one would hope
Anybody know if HY130 being used on the new boat ?
So, what you're saying is, viewing an ice cube floating in a drink, is kind of the metaphor of what this analysis is actually offering me¿☆? 🤔
Australian Navy watching this like a kid in a candy store with Mum yelling no, put it back we can't afford it.
Not really because this sub is too big, to clumsy and not fit for our purpose. In fact there is no US submarine that fits the bill for Australia as they all require way too many personnel to operate.
@@carisi2k11 "clumsy", eh? -boomer waving a Trident
@@PrezVeto Clumsy as in they are too big for the shallows to Australia's north. A boomer isn't going to be in shallow waters as it needs to be in the deep sea. What the US needs and what Australia needs in a submarine is completely different. We need something that is small and able to get in to the shallow and tight spaces to our north.
@@carisi2k11 i guess someone has never heard of the Sea Wolf class...... hahahahaha
Ayy, long time no see
And of course, we know some things common to all U.S. Navy submarines. The Columbia class will be commanded by some of the brightest, most agile minds and motivated souls of any navy on the planet. They will be supported by logistics, training and maintenance/repair capabilities second to none. And their officers and crew will embrace and exemplify only the finest discipline, culture and traditions of the navies of the world.
My you are full of it, aren’t you
And the crew will still draw dicks in the bilges and outboards just for the hell of it lol
You mean they dont use compurer systems?I propably could command a underwater steel coffin by learning how to handle some of it's computer system. With AI a totally automated sub could be implemented in the near future , which will not run into deep water mountains due intoxicated commanders and sleeping sonar operators
Oh my boy if only you knew what goes on in a command
Don't forget doing the honors of Blowing Shit Up, if putin or Xi or Icranians are crazy enoupgh to successfully hit a U.S. land base.
Less to say 20 nukes will be gifted Beautifully to them
Nice.
Any advice? X sharp tail fins have been highly celebrated. What’s the benefit vs cross fins?
For that kind of price, there better be an ice cream machine serving at least three flavors - vanilla, chocolate and strawberry. Spending 3 months inside a steel tube is dreadful work. Having comfort food relieves a lot of that work-related stress.
Reopen the Philadelphia shipyards!
New sub, enjoying your videos.
Thanks mate! 👍🇳🇿
The US and UK aren't saying a lot about the Columbia and Dreadnought boats beyond the number of missile tubes, electric drives, common missile compartment and common fire control systems.
Why would they ? Most nations tend to be a bit tight lipped about strategic assets.
@@glamdring0007 Agreed, and they should be tight lipped Our enemies must not and will not know Anymore about these Secret Destructive Weapons of Mass cataclysmic Proportions.
For good reason. There's a lot of technology and innovations being built into these subs that is still highly classified with systems that have yet to be announced or known even by some of the highest branches in the military. Keeping this stuff unknown to them helps protect the power and capabilities these subs will harness. If our enemies don't know what we can do, that is exponential advantage. I doubt very little will be divulged in most of our lifetimes about these subs. There will only be the handful of submariners that even then only know exist but are not allowed to understand or discuss this technology. It's pretty impressive shit they are doing.
3:38 - Big Casino!!! HOOYAH Brother!
Are they putting a new missile on these subs?
No Columbia class submarines uses the UGM-133A Trident II or also known Trident D5 missile ( year 1990 )
The Trident D5 is now called Trident D5LE ( Life - Extension ) .
@@firestar7188 I’m still waiting to see the Minuteman-3 replacement
'We can neither confirm nor deny whether or not missiles will ever actually be carried onboard... '
This is like someone telling you they have the latest news on the latest greatest smartphone. You watch the video. And all they tell you is expected cost, where it will be built, and when it will be built.
Viewers want to know the capabilities of the new submarine class. What weapons packages will it deploy with? What makes it better than previous classes? What role will it play once deployed? Why do other countries fear it? Can other countries hear it or find it when at sea?
Well it’s a ballistic missile submarine with 16 tubes and it goes on deterrence patrols. The Ohios are wearing out and needs replacement. It’s big, quiet and can end a country. Kinda self explanatory :)
@@PrimusPilus001 and it's got torpedo's too 😁
I'm surprised that the navy has even divulged this much information on the Columbia class boats,...if it were up to me, not one shred of Intel would be discussed . China watches our every move.
@@algomes715 I promise you the smallest fraction of information has been released about this boat. Like a person above wrote getting near one of these things docked is next to impossible without all kinds of clearances. I'm pretty sure youtube content doesn't know anywhere near it's capability. This is just my opinion.
Didn't the Ford class carriers have problems with the electromagnetic lift and not with the electromagnetic catapult?
Great Video. Problems and setbacks occur. The upside is the US Military utilizes various ISO-9X processes and will turn out a much improved system. #Kaizen
With all the issues and problems facing US Subs, they are still the preeminent Submarine force in the world today, and the Columbia class subs will be the state of the art ballistic submarines of the future, the one notable Exception to this are the newest British submarines, which are arguably on a par with American submarines.
why does a sub need 100 people on board (instead of 1 captain & 4 super-computers) ?
[a jet fighter has 1 pilot & 4 super-computers]
@@ireneuszpyc6684 Are you comparing a fighter jet to a ballistic Ohio Class, or Virginia Class sub? thats like comparing a high school football field to Giant stadium, just a little more complex dude.
@@michaelmancini5773 a jet fighter's 2 tactical nukes can flatten a small town (so 1 pilot's decision is enough); a Virginia-class sub's 20 strategic nukes can flatten half of Russia - so there's a need for a comittee of 15 onboard officers to agree beforehand?
@@ireneuszpyc6684 First of all there are codes to arm even tactical nukes on fighter jets, pilots can not release these weapons without having the codes to arm them, Sub Captains are under the same protocol only on a much higher level, and FYI, an Ohio class Trident submarine with 3 MIRVs on each of it's 24 ballistic missiles could destroy a lot more than "half of Russia", your not the expert you think you are buddy.
@@michaelmancini5773 subs are not automated enough: Virginia-class has 120 maintenance personnel on board - I think it's 120 too many - those guys should be replaced with computers & robots
What happened to your newest vid about Navy 2035? I can’t find it anymore.
My bad! I had to fix something. It should be back up now.
Are the Columbia Class Subs being built to replace the Tridents Vanguard Class too?
Army grunt here so be patient with my naval ignorance.
Ohio and tridents are the same ssbn. Thank you for your service. HOOYAH.
If production is so limited and timetables are so tight, is it possible for America to outsource its production of certain subs to an ally?
There are rumors that Australia is in talks regarding Australia investing in expansion of US nuclear submarine manufacturing as part of the new AUKUS alliance.
That can work I think but the technology would have to be kept very secure. I believe it could well benefit the American and the Australian Navy working together. I believe the Australians are much more in need of attack submarines than missile boats.
5:30 Whoa!!! What happened to the hull???
Anechoic tiles are glued on and sometimes come off.
@@Wick9876 those are not "tiles" on the VA class. It's applied in much larger sections, and that turned out to exacerbate the problem, rather than improve it. Curse of the class; and it's been a total shit-show in terms of accountability, too, just like everything else in the US government, ever since.
Excellent video.
Everything the government does goes way over budget prediction.
Not the government, it’s corporate contractors who bribe elected officials to ignore their profligate greed. If politicians actually represented their constituents they’d build in severe penalties for cost overruns.
Nooooooo playlists not long enough :( hahah great videos tho friend
As a qualified US Navy former submariner I appreciate your accuracy. Bravo Zulu.
Were you stationed east or west coast?
@@michellecushing5302 East Coast. Kings Bay, GA and Norfolk, VA
I was West Coast Point Loma
@@michellecushing5302 Qualified in submarines?
Stationed on the drydock there. Engineman
There's nothing more expensive than cutting costs on defenses needed for national survival.
nobody is threatening the usa. we have 11 arcraft carriers and a hundred overseas bases
@@davidanalyst671 China is not made in any direct threats to the United States that I know of but they are a big threat to us. One example is Taiwan makes a high percentage of microchips used in the US, if China did invade Taiwan our microchip supply would be severely threatened or cut off.
Would the 688i USS Columbia be decommissioned by then?
No. The night before the keel laying ceremony, they officially changed the name of the lead ship to "District of Columbia" to avoid having two ships with the same name.
The three most powerful men in the world:
1) The President of the United States of America
2) The President of the Russian Republic
3) The Captain of a United States ballistic missile submarine.
True lol Because the captain is the one given great responsibility, but having the lead man giving the Orders to the key to cause Destruction
The most powerful man?;The PHYSICIAN who monitors the HEALTH of the PRESIDENT
Now we want to build eight more Virginia class for Australia. Something has to give.
I think the AUKUS deal will more likely work out as Australia building a version of the UK's Astute Class attack boats. They would have UK
ship builders go to OZ to train the Australians in nuclear submarine construction. The US contribution would be using American systems
American sourced nuclear fuel, and American weapons. I have heard that the Australians will go with the British Astute class,because
it needs a smaller crew to run it. That means a smaller overall submarine staffing that needs to be spread out over the expected 12 boats.
GDEB On Time & Under Budget‼️️
ON TRACK NO CHANGE!!!
Any idea what steel we are up to? It was HY 90 in the 80s, and were supposed to HY 130. No refuel over 42 years, probably 35+ years not in refit, meaning EFPH of 35k hours? I assume the use of electric drive, turbine turns generator at high rpm, motor to shaft runs at low rpm, noise is the bigger factor so it does need to be more efficient. On carriers, I think they should run the diesel generators and auxiliary boilers frequently to extend reactor life
Nothing quite than a sub running on electric power, steam is noisy.
Served on USS Lafayette SSBN 616, Haven’t heard Effective Fuel Power Hour in 40 yrs yet don’t remember what dinner was.
@@stevenmassey7586 its not steam, but the pumps - I seem to recall feed pumps or reactor coolant pumps were most noisy? condensate pumps less so? the feed pumps had to achieve high pressure delta. the RCP had high volume to keep the temp delta between cold and hot narrow. The Ohio's had natural circulation capability at low power. But true, steam plants are complicated with many pumps, while some form of electric (or AIP?) can get really quiet at idle or low speed, that steam cannot
@@joechang8696 my understanding is the condensate is a noise issue, clearly I'm no expert but temp change during condensation had in the past been a problem but hell it 40 years ago I was in the shower fleet.
You did not explain the most important part: The Electric Drive...
Why do submarines hae diving planes on the conning tower? They become effective much later than they would if mounted in the hull when diving.
Those are actually called fairwater planes. They allow depth control without pitching the submarine. Much smoother depth control plus you don't have to worry about the planes contacting docks and stuff. Also, submarines don't spend much time on the surface so the minuscule impact that you are asking about is pretty much irrelevant.
Wow...hold on everyone...we have an expert marine engineer naval architect in the house. He just blew-away a hundred years of ship-building methodology and design in one comment. What was everyone thinking all these years??? Stop everything. Throw out all design software. All those calculations and models were wrong! New designs are to commence immediately - move all planes to the hull!!!
How is it more efficient to have the steam pass through a steam turbine to make electricity and then convert the electrify to motive power. Instead of passing the steam through a steam turbine connected to the prop via a reduction gears? I thought steam propulsion was more efficient, that's why it was used, but electric was quieter (no reduction gears).
I believe it will be quieter than a set of reduction gears
@@bigbubba4314 Right which is why I said "was quieter (no reduction gears)." I think he is mis-interpreting the statement about 80% of the power going to propulsion. 80% of power goes to propulsion at top speed because that is what it takes to move at their top speed. They also generate all the electricity they need while doing so, it's not a disadvantage.
War is hell is that your channel as well?
Haven’t heard Loose Lips in a while. Ice video.
The Columbia Class will not just be the next Ballistic Missile Submarine.
It will also be the basis for America's next attack submarine aka SSN(X).
This will have a 13m diameter hull, electric drive and displace about 10,000 tons,
which is exactly a Columbia without the 70m missile section and the SLBM hump.
Audio: "...will take the delay from weeks to months."
Text: "...will take the delay from months to weeks."
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Hold on let's make sure Russians and chinese are tuned in and have their popcorn for the video!
4:27 Efforts hope to take the delay from weeks to months? Don’t you want to take a delay from months to weeks? Or am I missing something.
Electric drive… woawww. That’s not like the French nuclear submarines have been using it for 40 years and that all conventional subs around the world use it…. So new…
Same goes for the C shaped rudder, or X shaped plus pump jet in the case of the French..
Great video, my friend. Looking forward to seeing the capabilities of this new submarine when it enters service.
However, I hope that our elected officials and our military leaders realize that the days of wasteful and reckless spending related to “research and development” are gone. Our beloved Republic can no longing ignore the national debt in the neighborhood of $45-65 TRILLION DOLLARS which is crushing our nation.
I have often wondered why the United States has not invested in the development and expansion of shipyards to accelerate production, retrofitting and repairs. ?🤔
I wish we could see a video of the people who designed these. Like a Q&A
I work with said people who are part of the design yard for this class
They are brilliant, I assure. you.
I'm a contractor working on building these
think , what do we have NOW?
Trident & Columbia - America's nuclear hammer.
The good thing about this new submarine is that its not built by the Russians
Best Money We Spend! While in the Navy and in a conversation with several high ranking Admirals, one said that only 3 people in the government know where these submarines are in the world at any one time and 2 of them are NOT politicians, That is 1 Too Many IMO> Politicians should be banned from making Any decisions for the military, again in my opinion, I say so based on their history of making very bad decisions.
Now there are only two people on the planet who know where our submarines are located. Both are Naval officers. The President doesn't know where he is, let alone where the submarines are located.
@@j.w.matney8390 And that is a VERY GOOD THING! Because I am sure he would sell that info to the highest bidder. Thanks!
Some people find electric cars and smart phones to be interesting. Yawn. These vessels and the men that serve on them are what I find to be fascinating. While we are walking around up here making money and polluting the earth, they are down there making sure we get to see the next day.
Why you in the skreen?
It's going to take NINE YEARS to build the first one!?!! What union negotiated THAT contract? God help us if we get in a war and it takes a decade to put a boat in the water!
Takes that long for a *NEW* Class.
s/ Former Director of Ship Silencing, NAVSEA
It takes 9 years to build the factory and learn how to build the boat. Boat#2 is actually already under construction
After the first one, they'll be pumping out one a year
When have we ever had a reduction in costs in U.S. history?
I did over 15 month of research on the Columbia Class Submarines, up to 18 hours a day 7 days a week and lead me to a shocking discovery, not even sure if I should post it here, but I will....
They can go UNDER water! :O
🤔 sooooo... Your certain about this 🦧
Lets just hope it can surface afterwards. God Bless Submariners
$14.4 BILLION dollars in new tech and upgrades and they're still using $.99 cent compasses to navigate with (3:45) ...amazing!!
Electrical propulsion systems should be simpler than mechanical drive steam turbines. Podded drives have been common on merchant ships for some years, so much of the technology should be mature, should being the critical word
Big difference between a a surface drive system and a deep silent drive system .
@@rayRay-pw6gz the new RN Dreadnaught class are reported to have an electric drive system with the main drive motor outside the pressure hull, all RN Submarines use a propulser, for reduced noise
@@paulhill1665 is it like the rim jet ? I saw the small scale mock-up of the rim jet ?
Complexity of the machine has never been a significant problem for our Sailors to overcome. Complexities of "Big Navy" and the government supply and procurement systems are another long and painful story...
SSBN-826 District of Columbia!!! Next Protector of the Seas
Thanks bro I enjoy this vid . Yes, hopefully these nukes will never have to be launched !!!!
Go US Navy!!!👍👍👍🇺🇸
Ok I'm Army not Navy but this is bugging me...every time I hear "ship" when ITS A BOAT!!!
I know I know it;s a personal thing...it just irritates me...
Depending on how they made the all electric drive system it won’t be the first times it’s been used on a submarine. The USS Narwhal had an electric drive
What do you mean electric drive? The Narwhal had a turbine reduction direct drive. Yes, it was one of a kind and the quietest boat of her time but it was not electric drive.
It was SSN 685. USS Glenard P Lipscomb. Comissioned in 1974. I arrived in 1975 june. We were the longest advanced 637 class . Two others which were Richard B Russell and L Mendel Rivers.. 685 was electric drive. At the time we were the most silent attack boat other than a diesel boat.
The French have been using electric drives on their nuclear subs for decades..
Just to let you know a submarine is not a ship it is a boat. It's interesting to learn something new but I still like my current fast attack Subs that was stationed with
how many women died (globally) in submarine accidents?
Our submarines are commonly referred to as "ship", "warship" and "boat", by their Submarine Qualified crews, interchangeably. And sometimes other names...
tell 'em how many decades ago "firm fixed price" bidding was replaced with "cost +". then chart the delta of DoD or most any, federal, project health. or tell em how Apollo come in on budget on time.
Ahhhh Pearl in the back ground
Electric Boat is said to be looking for 3500 people to hire at their yard on top of who they employee now so they are dealing with the bottle neck they have.
The only thing more delicious than a savory, new, Columbia class submarine, is my scrumptious brisket; it's sensational ¡☆!
Cool subject HOW DID YOU MAKE IT SO BORING
From the recent collision; It does NOT have curb feelers?
AOC will NOT be allowed to drive these subs
I've heard only the best of the best get assigned to the nuclear subs
14 billion and change per sub you say. More likely 25 to 30. We all know how this goes. Funny that the cost of just one of these subs could pay for a wall on our southern border. I love our military. But I loathe the military leadership, the contractors, the DOD and Pentagon. Not one of them will be in the chow line on taco night at a depth of 600 feet. They are not worthy of cleaning latrines.
@@GAVACHO5150 Thank you for your service!
Your estimate is way off. The first one is just south of 14 billion because all of the design and new systems testing is allocated to the first unit. The follow on hulls are closer to 9 billion and during the build program increased for inflation that gives you the 113 billion total for the 12 ship class.
Same WLR-9 dome...
how long does it take to reload a sub with tomahawks? have a feeling we will be using them allot real soon
I love secrets.
I can say any damn crap I want.
And no one can prove me wrong.
They make an Replacement that is Weaker than its Predecessor (Ohio) and
Borei Class
For submarines - stealth is more important than speed. You want your submarines to be acoustic holes in the ocean.
I interviewed with Admiral Rickover (you need to date me with Carbon 14 - I’m 63 - I didn’t get selected). I’m still in awe of a plant that can last 42 years without a refueling - Being a chemistry Major - there’s some Mr Wizard stuff going on in the reactor.
Come on. You can’t be messing with welds on these boats. These boats are our most important ones!
There are rumors that Australia is in talks with US defense about Australia investing in expansion of US nuclear submarine manufacturing, with two Virginias built in US shipyards for Australia while a third nuclear submarine shipyard is built in Australia with a further eight Virginia's to be built for Australia there, and long term benefits for US submarine building. However there are similar talks in the UK for a similar project building Astute's for Australia. There has been an Australian government confirmation that a decision will be announced in March 2023.
Rumors had pegged the Virginia project as the front runner, but the British government has been pushing hard. Also there has been confirmation that Australian submariners are already in traing in the UK, and on the 31st of August Boris Johnson announced that Australian sailors will be serving on the new HMS Anson as Australia develops its nuclear submarine capabilities. The first Australian nuclear boat is expected to be in the water by the early 2030's, which is only possible by going with an existing design.
As the cost of American submarine builds increase, investment by a close ally may be valuable for America's own submarine building program, including for the Columbia-class, and the expansion of the total Virginia fleet due to extra subs in the Australian navy can only be helpful as we face mutual dangers from China and Russia in decades to come.
Mix in the helping hand to the Aussies. Theres no way the mfg base can handle these and the Virginia's. This is going to be a big problem.
the french wanted to sell them diesel subs. can you imagine sitting off the coast of an enemy, blowing black diesel smoke!!!!???
The Ausies will go with the British Astute class. The main issue faced by the RAn sub service is manpower and the Astute is much more automated than the Virginia and slightly smaller
@@davidanalyst671 i think this is only part of the reason for France's meltdown over this. Its looking like the unidentified country that clown and his wife were selling a bunch of Virginia class info on was France. They gave us a ring about those dipshits, 9 months later. No doubt some late night reading before getting ahold of us about it.
@@domoyakyak probably the most logical, its not a quick turnaround to get people up to us/uk standards on everything to run that safely. A few buddies were nukes and i want to say it was almost 2 years just for educational quals, not including getting dolphins on one. I still wonder if theyll take a ohio or la class and use it with our guys as a sort of stopgap and otj training before theyre decommed.
@@mtmadigan82 the story is not the story!! pay attention!!! WHY did france have a meltdown and pull their ambassadors for a military contract? Because we wanted to tell china that we were making super sneaky subs that nobody can detect, and we are going to give them to Australia. Thats why. The whole france thing was to make sure it stays in the news. We are sending super secret subs to australia
Problem is it gets more expensive to build
After decades and service we know very little about the Ohio class
Which is a few thousand times more than what we know about the Columbia class
Realistically, the general public should know very little about these submarines. Everything about them is interim-Top Secret. Even on Naval bases, only submariners are allowed on that part of the base where submarines are docked. Other sailors attached to surface warfare vessels cannot access that area. It's very strict, indeed.
That's why we call it the Silent Service!
I would have thought a submarine built now could be designed to operate with far fewer crew, but no. Seriously, 45 years later and the crew compliment is basically the same, at about 155 members for Columbia Class Exactlay the same as the Ohio class.
US subs are known for being quite rustic
I'm not positive but I'm guessing deployment length has a lot to do with it. From what I understand these boats stay out longer requiring more crew to keep everyone fresh and not over worked. Just an idea.
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I did 11 patrols on on a 640 class and two Trident boats. It was a waste of a perfectly good life.
s it ready today to take on Swedish and German silent submarines because it couldn't do that at the time, they were clearly a hole in the water that it didn't see or should I say heard (discovered).
Ah; you’re talking about the coastal submarines with Sterling engines. We rented one for a few years to learn how to counter it. We also can’t use them because the deployment/submerged times are way too short for the US.
@@tatataloo5217
I know, and it shows how bad your own were. It sank an aircraft carrier.
After that the US had to lease it for another 2 years. Nothing has emerged of the development during the 2 years.
Submarines go by hearing and these are incredibly quiet because of the machine type.
Collisions still happen below the surface so they don't hear each other, and it's sort of US powered submarine types.
@@pluss400 it doesn’t show that US sonar is bad by any means; just that there was a weakness in that particular scenario to that particular sub type using that particular tactic of sitting still and not moving at all, and we leased the sub to put it through tests to figure out how to detect it. A lot came from that.
If US sonar tech was bad we wouldn’t be able to find all those sunk Russian subs before the Russians do.
@@tatataloo5217
Sonar is not a perfect tool, but when human life depends on HEARING EVERYTHING, a sonar system that is average is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Then you have to rely on other means and in recent years silence has been the submarine's first protection, which US submarines are not.
@@pluss400 so, you keep repeating th the same talking points in broken English and seem to have a hard time keeping a linear thought. I can only assume your source for all this is “The Hunt for Red October.”
American subs are the quietest in the ocean; especially the new generation of boats hitting the water. Not boats meant to operate in specific areas and shallow water; the ocean. Russian boats are notoriously loud and all date back to the Cold War and the Chinese aren’t much better. Even if they were, the globe spanning listening posts would negate that advantage.
@04:24 he gets it backwards. REALLY 133 Billion $ commercial, and u flub ur lines?
Don't say much about the capability of the sub....LOL....So how to assess if it is value for money or game-changer? Simple metrics like how stealthy, speed or diving depth? Doesn't have to be accurate since they are classified but at least a rough estimation? How does it compared to Russian or Chinese latest sub? Are we just gonna assume the Columbia class is more superior?
Well there is one important thing to remember. Both of those Countries have practiced playing football (War) and have yet to play a game. Unlike them America is well practiced game playing Superbowl champ so the other teams are just don't stand a Chance.
@@SkinE-Vadee-Veechee In terms of submarine warfare, I would say the Russian are just as good if not better than the US. Russian submarines are also as good if not better than the US. As for the Chinese, they still have some catching up to do but we don't have to reinvent the wheel nowadays do we? Closing the gap will be faster than you think....
yes, the USA is going to leak details on how it compares to russian and chinese subs. The most stealthy and secretive weapons platform in the world, and we gonna tell you the details of how it works
@@davidanalyst671 Then how come you are so sure the US subs are better than the Russia or Chinese?
@@eymeeraosaka2954 the only way to do that is to have them go head to head
Why do the submariners wear bush camouflage uniforms?
The newest Columbia class submarine are superior but we still need the Ohio for backup. Let start building more submarines in case a war breaks out. Especially in china sea. Just remember having submarines have the enemies nervous? The Ohio’s submarine only needs an upgrade of the latest technology. Let’s keep that submarine active.
Turn up that loud music even louder I kept hearing someone mumbling