Lytmi Fantasy 3 - Best TV Sync Box? (vs Govee AI)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- So in 2023, I want lighting that sync’s with my TV’s display, works with the latest gen consoles, is tailored to my TV’s size & is compatible with 8K.
And Lytmi’s latest…Fantasy 3 Kit not only does this, but is the first-ever sync box that supports 4K @ 120 & 8K @ 60 via HDMI 2.1.
But is it the Best TV Sync Box? To answer this we’ll, unbox, set it up, discuss the Pro’s and Con’s & compare it with Govee’s latest.. AI Gaming Sync box.
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0:00 | Intro
1:00 | Unboxing
1:27 | Set-up
2:34 | Pros and Cons
9:16 | Lytmi Fantasy 3 vs Govee AI
12:22 | Best TV Sync Box?
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Do you prefer the Lytmi F3 💜 or Govee AI? 💚 Drop a heart in the comments 👍🏻
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Fancyleds 2.1 Sync Box releases tomorrow. Hope you can review it
Nevermind they pushed the date back..again..smh
Always detailed review - It looks nice and bright 👏 but are the colours vibrant enough?
The Fantasy 3 is nice and bright with 72 LED’s per metre, compared to 60 on the Govee AI. The Govee has better colour saturation, but because of the lack of brightness it looks a little dull 🤷🏻♂️
Cool intro, and useful comparison. keep up the grind
Thanks Frank
Excelent video mate, subscribed. I have a question If I decided tu use VRR it just won’t work or I can use a steady light mode and still get VRR. Also can be used on native tv apps on steady light mode? Thanks in advance
Thanks BlackAnji, appreciate it. Yep you can use a steady light mode at any time (for full VRR or when using Native Apps)
So just run the HDMI cord directly from your PS5, Xbox etc straight to the TV for full HDR, VRR, ALLM etc. or just use the Nativ Apps with the Lytmi box on and a static colour selected
Love the bright colours, I’ve always wanted synced lights for my TV & PS5, do you think they will resolve the HDR Issues?
Hey Dom, hard to say at this stage, I’m hopeful they will… but certainly this needs to covered for the Fantasy 4, when that drops 👍🏻
For an lg i would recommend making your own using piccap and hyperhdr that way everything works allm, vrr and dolby vision
Good suggestions! You can also buy the Fantasy 3 Pro version now, which has vrr and all support 👍🏻
Solid review, especially on the comparisons, seems they both have their drawbacks, suppose it's down to which one fixes them quicker
Yep it’s a race against time ⏳ Let’s be clear though…the Lytmi F3 is still an impressive piece of kit… even with the drawbacks 😍
Great review 🤩I suppose HDMI 2.1 hardware is better to go with? assuming Lytmi fixes their limitations in the future?
Based on hardware - Lytmi is brighter and has the edge, but based on software Govee has better colour saturation and eco-system… If Lytmi can enhance their software then yes 👍🏻
Just came from your govee video. Perfect timing. ☝🏾 I'm really considering getting this due to the 2.1 integration. How confident are you that they will mature the apps in the future with software updates? Is the app actually able to be updated?
Hey Carlos, I reached out to a Lytmi rep and they confirmed they are currently working on fixing the issues with certain colours (including Red) when HDR is enabled..... and it will come in a firmware update. The only thing they couldn't confirm was an exact date There are also other app updates in the pipeline.
Brilliant info. Will stay tuned... 🫡
@@CarlosOrtiz-AzulBushi You're welcome dude, have a good one
Firstly, thanks for this detailed review and comparison video. I also need your recommendation on this matter.
I have a Samsung QN95AA 65-inch TV and a Samsung Q950A Soundbar, naturally connected to EARC.
1) Should the Sync Box be connected to EARC or any HDMI output?
2) Considering my current TV and sound system, do you recommend the Govee AI or Lytmi Fantasy 3 ?
Thanks in advance.
And I have PS5 and Apple TV 4K…
It doesn't currently support ARC/eARC, you can get around this by:
1 - using an optical connection for you audio. Just plug the digital optical out from the tv to av receiver and set your avr and tv to dig/opti option.
2 - Alternatively if you have an AVR then here is a link with the 2 options Lytmi recommends...
www.lytmiforum.com/forum/general-discussion/arc-support/dl-576baf74-523f-3650-b360-21c84a558708?postId=62134a159060950016f99cb4
With that in mind the Govee Ai does directly support eARC so it’s easier, compared to some workarounds for the Lytmi 👍🏻
Need to get myself an Apple TV 4K, miss my old one
@@frostfire_mage Thank you for the replies. I will try this. 🙋♂️
Before purchasing, I'm curious, I need to connect my audio receiver to the HDMI eARC port on the TV. Can I connect the lytmi to the second HDMI port on the TV and will it work? Or do I need to be on port 01 HDMI eARC and connect my audio system using an optical cable?
Hi Kristian,
It doesn't currently support ARC/eARC, you can get around this by:
1 - using an optical connection for you audio. Just plug the digital optical out from the tv to av receiver and set your avr and tv to dig/opti option.
2 - Alternatively if you have an AVR then here is a link with the 2 options Lytmi recommends...
www.lytmiforum.com/forum/general-discussion/arc-support/dl-576baf74-523f-3650-b360-21c84a558708?postId=62134a159060950016f99cb4
Can i do a DIY to make these things, the lytmi or the govee, also control other lights (on the walls, under the sofa, in the bathroom, so that everything matches what you see on the tv) or the only option for that is the hue?
Nope you need to use the lights provided with the Sync Box, the Lytmi F3 works with the Lytmi lightbars as well. But Govee has Dreamview meaning you can sync up 10 additional Govee light products (excluding the light bars) 👍🏻
If I install the 90 inch strip to a 98 inch tv that would make the strip 4 inches offset in from the corners. Will the leds still be bright enough to get the same effect?
Option 1 - Install closer to middle of TV & have the TV mounted slightly further from the wall
- May be less bright overall, but still sufficient.
Option 2 - Install closer to top and bottom edges, which means gap on corners, TV mounted as usual
- May be less bright on corners.
If either doesn’t work that well, you can always return them.
I would give it a go … if I was in your shoes.
I wish they had a 42-43" version for my pc.
You could probably try the Govee AI 27” - 34” but results would be sub-optimal ofcourse 🤷🏻♂️
Does the Govee Al sync box support Dolby Vision and HDR? Because my Lytmi Fantasy 3 is glitchy and doesn’t support DV and HDR even through it claims on their website it does. I’m very bummed.
As far as I'm aware only the C9, C2 and E6 don't support DV th-cam.com/video/hUP9sXHj9dA/w-d-xo.html
What "TV and Console" combo are you using?
Also HDR is supported on the Lytmi F3, but has some colour matching issues currently.
The Govee AI does support DV and HDR as mentioned here th-cam.com/video/hUP9sXHj9dA/w-d-xo.html
I’m using Sony X90K Bravia XR, Sony A7000 sound-bar with Apple TV 4K as source device. If I change my ATV 4K resolution to 4K Dolby Vision, the colors on the light start to mismatch are not accurate. It’s a bumper to leave the ATV 4K resolution on 4K SDR to get accurate colors on the Fantasy 3 lights.
@@sumeetlal1 Same deal with the PS5, the colours just dont' match correctly, so I found myself playing games in SDR just to get a better colour match, which is not great
Lytmi now supports VRR and ALLM with latest model
Ye, but will the Pro model solve the HDR issues? 🧐
@@frostfire_mage Good question. Do a follow up and let us know.
whats a good saturation and brightness percent for gaming in dark room on the govee ai box? thanks
A lot of the camera based systems from Govee required you to drop Brightness to around 65% and Saturation to around 15%... but with the Govee AI box I found 100% Saturation was fine (and is one of Govee's selling points). When it comes to brightness again for me 100%, but you can dial it down based on personal preference, and whether your gaming, watching movies for e.g.
How is the lag on fast paced games I heard the lights don’t keep up but I haven’t seen any one talk about it in video
It handles 4k120 and 8k60, the issue is the variable refresh rate sometimes… but they fixed that with the new Lytmi Pro Fantasy 3 👍🏻
i don’t have a ps5 or xbox, or roku or anything hooked up to my tv. i only use the apps installed on the tv. will the lytmi still work? if not, what is a comparable device that i should use instead of the lytmi?
No it doesn’t work natively… just buy an Apple TV and run it through the Lytmi Sync box 👍🏻 and grab the be Pro version of the Fantasy 3 for VRR and ALLM support (it’s worth it)
Does the Govee Ai come with a lightstrip? If not can I use for example my Govee T2 lightstrip and connect it to the Govee Ai?
The Govee AI kit:
for 27”-34” displays comes with a 1.4m light strip.
for 55”-65” displays comes with a 3.6m light strip (4 sections)
for 55”-65” displays comes with a 5m light strip (4 sections)
I wouldn’t use other light strips as the sync won’t be 100% compatible for all sides of the tv.
Great question ,i have the T2 and 2 lyra floor lamps connected via the sync center ,was hoping the new AI sync box was a simple swap rather than buying a new complete new set 🤔,seems it cant be done gutted 😏
@@frostfire_mage even though they are Govee T2 strip lights
I'm planning to get either the Ai sync box or T2 for my 65 inch Samsung S90C tv that is connected to Samsung q600 soundbar. My usecase is for watching TH-cam content and movies on various streaming services like Netflix, prime etc. Which one should I go for?
The T2 is camera based… it’s old tech… don’t get me wrong it’s a great camera based system, but you don’t want that on your TV bro, Govee AI for me 💚
@@frostfire_mage makes sense but I've heard that the AI sync box is not compatible with Smart Tv in house apps like Netflix and Prime (basically devices connected to the HDMI ports of the sync box). Isn't that true?
@@akki.akshay Nope… if you’re streaming Netflix or Disney on Apple TV or PS5 and it’s run through the sync box it will work… streaming apps won’t work when played Natively on your TV (that’s it) 👍🏻
T1 cheaper and stil very imprssive cost only 50 $
Is it works with netflix or other native apps or only hdmi? I have a tcl qm8 85 and i use the sound bar on earc port. Thanks
Unfortunately no native support… you need to play your streaming service through the app on your PS5, Xbox or other hdmi plugged in device 👍🏻
@@frostfire_mage i think i'm going T2 version with camera.
@@gustavomof interesting… why not the Govee AI?
Ive heard you can use an hdmi 2.1 splitter with govee sync box to get 4k 120hz.
It’s a bit of a gamble, you need a more expensive splitter where you can toggle the frame rate down to 1080p, I just hope they fix these software limitations so additional peripherals are not needed.
@@frostfire_mage toggle the resolution down to 1080p you mean? So if i bought the govee sync box and a hdmi splitter it wouldnt be 4k 120?
Some more detail here...
Set-up
a) HDMI 1 OUT on the splitter goes to your TV;
b) HDMI 2 OUT on the splitter goes to the Govee AI box (with Scaler setting ON - which toggles to 1080p)
Link (expensive splitter)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C7GNZL2Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=erics05-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=7049821c5088aefe9a867ea8b1cd152a&camp=1789&creative=9325
The Govee AI box allows you to adjust the resolution down to increase fps. You do this for the connection running through the sync box, and the lights. While using the other split hdmi cord to show 4K to the TV from your next gen console.
Had a ton of bugs with lytmi 3. It refuses to recognize my PS5 even after firmware update. It also dislikes my firestick because I get a buzzing sound whenever I first turn it on and have to recycle power to get rid of it. Was told it may not be compatible with my S95C. Seems like an S95C in the video though
Sorry to hear that Adam… What TV do you have? and did you reach out to Lytmi at all?
@@frostfire_mage 77 inch S95C. Yes. No qualms with support. They were great. One email per day wasn't great but pretty sure it was due to the time zone difference. They tried pushing a firmware update but no joy. They did refund my purchase after we tried a few different things that didn't work out.
can you do a Lytmi vs Fancy leds?
$360 AUD for the 3 HDMI option… releasing Mid to Late Sept, I’ll reach out to Fancy LED’s 👍🏻
Have you tested hdr on a pc or nvidia shield tv?
I’ve checked it on my laptop and yes if playing HDR10 content it will suffer from the colour mismatch. Haven’t tried nvidia shield tv though 👍🏻
06:00 Ori Will of the Wisps should do on Series X and PS5.
Even if it renders at 6K internally it still supersamples down to 4K on the Series X and PS5 😔
How does this work when I have a soundbar on hdmi e arc ?
I have a c2 65 inch with xbox series x is it worth it to buy the Lytmi? 😶
There’s HDR colour matching issues with Dolby Vision on the C2 so no, get the Govee AI 👍🏻
My tv is 42 inches. Could you recommend a tv backlight for me?
For a 42” TV you will need 2.5 to 3M of strip lights…
You won’t be able to use a sync box unless you get the Govee AI 27”-34”, and put it close to the middle back of your TV. If you picked up the Light Bars this maybe (but not recommended).
us.govee.com/products/govee-ai-gaming-sync-box-kit?variant=43234782740665
Instead get a good non sync strip lights suited to 42”
- Govee LED Strip Light M1 (cheap)
us.govee.com/collections/strip-lights/products/govee-led-strip-light-m1
- Lifx Light Strips (used these for years) - good quality, reasonable price
www.lifx.com/products/lightstrip-120-kit
- Philips HUE - Expensive and would need extension + 40 inches
www.philips-hue.com/en-us/p/hue-white-and-color-ambiance-gradient-lightstrip-80-inch/046677570552#overview
Or just buy a 50+ inch TV to open the world of sync box lights.
It does feel like a work in progress product in it's current state, should I just wait for Lytmi F4 or Govee AI 2.1?🤨
Both the Lytmi F3 and Govee AI are still worth it in their current forms, and would expect firmware updates to correct some of these drawbacks.
Would I be able to hookup my android box to this and it work with my iptv service?
This is too edge case for me, I would suggest take a risk and buy it or reach out to a Lytmi support rep for clarification 🤙🏻
Will Lytmi fantasy 3 work with a Roku streaming stick on a VIZIO tv that goes into HDMI? So I can still watch TH-cam and movies??
And I’m assuming the sound works right? I’ve been seeing a lot of bad reviews instead of good
And has the HDR issue been resolved yet?
Yes it should, the sound will come through with the video... But as far I'm aware, HDR issue is still there, I haven't heard of any update from my Lytmi rep yet on when the fix will come either
@@frostfire_mage so if I want HDR, does Govee support it?
@@frostfire_mage well, in your opinion, which one should I go for? Govee, or Lytmi?
@@flopptartz For where the games are right now, 4K @ 120 fps is still very limited, coupled with HDR issue on the Lytmi F3 …the Govee AI is better at this point in time…
Do you do the 4K120hz hack with the Govee sync box ran through a HDMI 2.1 splitter?
You can do it but it comes at a cost... an expensive splitter (not sure this is worth it... a hack job tbh)
Set-up
a) HDMI 1 OUT on the splitter goes to your TV;
b) HDMI 2 OUT on the splitter goes to the Govee AI box (with Scaler setting ON - which toggles to 1080p)
Link
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C7GNZL2Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=erics05-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=7049821c5088aefe9a867ea8b1cd152a&camp=1789&creative=9325
@@frostfire_mage I already do it, I was just asking if you will lol. Can't wait til they make an legit 2.1 box tho. FancyLEDS are coming out with one
@@FatalCorleone07 Will keep an eye out for it 👍
@@FatalCorleone07Fancy LED only has 1 HDMI. So you'll NEED to buy a splitter
@@DoSe420 Right, which is dumb on their part. I have a splitter already though
How do you connect it if you have a home theater system?
It doesn't currently support ARC/eARC, you can get around this by:
1 - using an optical connection for you audio. Just plug the digital optical out from the tv to av receiver and set your avr and tv to dig/opti option.
2 - Alternatively if you have an AVR then here is a link with the 2 options Lytmi recommends...
www.lytmiforum.com/forum/general-discussion/arc-support/dl-576baf74-523f-3650-b360-21c84a558708?postId=62134a159060950016f99cb4
Hey i use the Lytme Fantasy 2 Version with my Home Theatre AV Receiver frim Yamaha and a LG Oled Tv and it work with EARC with no Problems. My sync box is connected with my AV Receiver and the Sync Box is connected with my tv. It works no Problem no issue. Because the Fantasy 2 have just one HDMİ out i dont need a Splitter because i use the HDMİ outs of my Receiver 😛
So if I normally use tv native apps this wont work?
Unfortunately no, as the device which is streaming / running the particular app (Netflix, Disney+., Prime) needs to be connected via one of the HDMI IN ports. That said... this is a relatively minor issue as long as you have a PS5, Xbox, Apple TV, Laptop etc which you can play the app through. Let's hope they can get running natively in the future.
Never even knew this existed
I was sceptical before trying it out, but it does make gaming and watching movies more immersive, thinking of getting one?
@@frostfire_mage well I don’t know how well it’ll work on my 13 inch CRT that plays Mario kart, but I sure would like one! Haven’t really had a need for a larger TV yet, but I’d like one for the aesthetic definitely
guys does this ambient light works also for normale cable tv or just when playing game console? thank you
If your Cable TV set-up is run through the LYTMI Sync box via a “HDMI cable” then yes it should work 👍🏻
@@frostfire_mage thank you for the reply is really appreciated!
There’s a way to do that? Maybe an adapter or else?
Thank you in advance
Hello, i have 85" TV...its okay for me Lytmi Fantasy 3 75-80"?
They have a 85 to 90” option why not get that one?
Can Govee Floor lamps be synced with Lytmi Fantasy 3?
Nope, I would go with a Govee AI box if you want your room fully synched 👍🏻
@@frostfire_mage Thanks, understood!!
Thanks but man its not worth $200. HDR? How about "No Atmos, VRR, eARC,or CEC passthrough"? OOPS
Hey Danny, it's hard not to agree with you... they do have some improvements to make. Some hardware, but mostly software. Still... I'm using it...it's cool and it does add to the immersive experience
Did they fix these issues with a software update?
This works in the LG C3 ?? Perfect?
Yep, if you’re getting one, grab the new pro version which has ALLM & VRR support 😎
@@frostfire_mage thank you man. I’ll
One question if you had to choose the Phillips hue ( like the light and sync box ) and the Lytmi Pro version with one do you choose ? For the PS5 ( TV LG C3 ) What’s the best step up ? Because I’m about to buy one of this week so I need help so kn the best one. Please
This is more a question of cost vs quality, the Philips hue set-up is a better quality product, but a lot more expensive… if you want value for money (with latest VRR & ALLM) tech get the Lytmi F3 👍🏻
@@frostfire_mage so the better choice is the Lytmi ?
I'm using a samsung TV and planning to get a samsung soundbar, will it work if i just plug the eARC port directly from the soundbar to TV while the Lytmi lighting still works?
It doesn't currently support ARC/eARC, you can get around this by:
1 - using an optical connection for you audio. Just plug the digital optical out from the tv to av receiver and set your avr and tv to dig/opti option.
2 - Alternatively if you have an AVR then here is a link with the 2 options Lytmi recommends...
www.lytmiforum.com/forum/general-discussion/arc-support/dl-576baf74-523f-3650-b360-21c84a558708?postId=62134a159060950016f99cb4
I also think a hdmi splitter will work also with Earc
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I thought it was said "light me"
I’ve heard both, “lit me” is quicker to say… so went with that 🙅🏻♂️
Can you confirm the TV model you are having here ?
Does anyone know if the Lytmi Fantasy 3 sync box supports 1440p?
A Lytmi rep got back to me today, yes it support 1440p 👍
@@frostfire_mage awesome thanks boss
@@laytonvoves3748 No worries bro
Can it use airplay tho that’s the make or break it for me?
If you AirPlay via an Apple TV box or equivalent that uses 1 of the 4 HDMI IN slots on the Lytmi F3 then yes 👍🏻
@@frostfire_mage Ty bro, I have Chromecast 4k that should work right ?
@@Shanks6039 chromecast doesn't have airplay. Maybe you mean chromecast (it is the right name of it on the google chromecast 4k)?
With that said it is what it is…. I’m mad I got it bc I’d rather have the govee one bc it has lights on the box lol
Although the box can look cool, it is a bit of a gimmick. The Govee AI box light strips only have 60 LED's per metre which means it's not as bright as the Lytmi. That said I do feel both of these products need some love... in order to be value for money propositions for consumers.
I have a lytmi and these videos have fooled me… I have a 65 inch tv with the kit that fits 65 inch TVs but it’s not nearly as bright in person as it appears in videos
Hey Michael, I had issues with brightness and colour matching when HDR was enabled on the PS5, especially when displaying "Red". When using in SDR I found it much brighter and the colours matched better. It also helps to have your TV mounted and closer to the wall, for a more intense light projection.
YOU DONT PAY FOR THE APP?
which better？
If using a console… the games use of 4K @ 120 hz is limited. So at the moment It's better to pick up the Govee AI for better saturation and colour accuracy for 4K 30hz & 60hz gaming.. For the longer term Lytmi are working to improve their software with HDR fixes for the PS5, it’s also future proofed for upcoming 4K 120hz content. Short term - Govee AI, Longer term - Lytmi F3.
Expect the vast majority of games on console to be 4k/30 with ray tracing and HDR on filled with tons of motion blur. Console gamers love that cinematic aspect.
I mean think about it...if a 10900k and a 3080ti can't do 4k/60 or 4k/120 across the board, what makes you think a console can? It simply doesn't have the GPU horsepower for pushing 60fps+ consistently at 4k.
I only see them doing 4k/60 with non-demanding titles like COD or FIFA, racing games like GT7 or fighting games like Tekken. I expect 120fps in e-sports titles like Rocket League, Overwatch, Apex Legends, Rainbow Six Siege. Either at 1080p or 1440p only.
And who knows if they will be using native 4k. It could be all checkerboard rendering again or AI upscaling with the new RDNA2 architecture and who knows how good that's gonna be when compared to Nvidia's DLSS 2.0. Nvidia is pushing hard for AI upscaling and I think they will do it better than AMD. You'd be better off hooking up a high end pc to the Lytmi
It's difficult to disagree with you, the longer the PS5 and Xbox series X era goes on, the more I'm disappointed by what was promised vs delivered on the games use of tech and the "so called" capabilities of these consoles. It's also why at the moment It's probably better to pick up the Govee AI for better saturation and colour accuracy for 4K 30 & 60 related gaming.. That said I have assurances from Lytmi that are working to improve their software with Fantasy 3, with HDR for the PS5 and other external devices