Good vid. I like sws as a developer and have found there one of a few that seem to be realistic and honest about there products and processes. I remember when the kodiak was first released there was issues but they have know worked them out and hopefully learned a lot from that. I also like the haven’t released it out to the reviewers and vlogers weeks / months before release, due when developers do that I feel it’s teasing and I find I’m not as interested upon release or less interested. Pc12 may be one of my favourites obviously wait till I get my hands on it, also this type of aircraft is the sort I enjoy the most and more exciting than an airliner and is easier to make the most off. But we have been spoiled lately by the tbm850 and the m500. But that’s good. I would like to also see some more business jets as well to come to the sim..
I want more business jets in MSFS more than any other potential addition. I’m a huge business aviation enthusiast and I’ve always felt the current selection is majorly lacking.
Very nice, thanks for the preview. But in what way would this be the "the most detailed single engine prop" compared to the other ones such as the A2A Comanche?
@erim84 - I've just bought the PC-12 and it's lovely. But you're right, it was a silly statement. It's not groundbreaking in any way. It has no control panel / tablet. It has no maintenance or failures options. To be fair to SWS, that's why they priced it at only £21. It doesn't hold a candle to the A2A Comanche. It's just a 'good' addon. To say it might be the most detailed single engine prop in the sim is just unnecessary hyperbole.
7:25 it's actually GEN2 then 1. It's been about 3 years since ive flown it but if I recall the order has to do with keeping the bus ties from tripping, though ive never had that problem in the series 10 nor the NG.
The Carenado PC12 has made a lot better due to some updates, and it also has a fantastic weather radar (Avidyne Flighmax), which is much more important to me than a board toilet.😊
I have one in msfs 2020..flys great. I don’t see anything different. Why should I buy it? Breakers working..ahh pressure.no the one I have has pressure. So there are more than one way to turn off something with the breakers? Hummmmm
Thanks for this video! It's looking good. Unfortunatelly, for the not so experienced sim-pilot, it's hard to follow your actions since your mouse cursor is not visible. That's a bummer.
I run an RTX4090 so my FPS are never an issue with any addon, which makes it very difficult to monitor and compare frames (as I also have it locked to 4K60fps)
Thanks for your good review. As someone who only fly's from bush planes up to bizjets and having flown the "other" PC-12 for a few months, I am poised to purchase this version as I can see how much better it will be in so many details. All the eye candy is nice but where it matters is flight dynamics and systems and this SWS version delivers. As for failures, I will get them when they come out but I wouldn't want them at first while learning anyway. Top marks to SWS.
@@jay-rus4437 oh - I've only flown the TBM once or twice since the video I did on it... I've found that's a bit more "tricky" to learn and the PC-12 generally a bit more easier to learn
@@BritishAvgeek …. Understand. Honestly, we have a lot of aircraft to choose from now. Still more on the way. For the most part I fly the Fenix a320, PMDG 737-800 or 900, or the TBM 850. Those 3 get 90% of my time.
Providing you already have the GTNXi addon installed, when you install the SWS PC12 it asks which nav system you want to install - at that point you select the gtnxi option and it'll link up
Beautiful aircraft that I fell in love with, but I could never fly with it for longer than about half an hour because then the frame rates dropped below 10 fps and you could not fly with it any further. All the tweaks from the FS2020 were applied, but my buddy and I did not get any further despite our sturdy periphery. It really hurts after seeing your wonderful review!
You are probably talking about the Carenado PC-12 wich is not great. The one in the video is from Simworks Studios and is going to be released in a few hours (2023-12-06-1200z).
Carenado has nothing on this. Eye candy at best. SWS PC12 feels like a real plane. I still need to practice doing a proper takeoff and landing. Everything else in the sim has an arcade feel but not this one!
The prop animation reeeeealy need some work... Specially when spooling up but mainly when taxying. You shouldnt be able to see individual blades like that with the naked eye.
No failures/wear simulation, no buy for me. There are so much good airplanes now with good wear and tear simulations, it makes no sense - in my opinion - to fly something where it makes no difference if you check your instruments or not.
This is the turboprop I was waiting for. Lot on them landing on my swiss real life airport. The best seller amongst turboprops, and there is a good reason. Greath work from SWS. Too many animations just for fun, no need of a working toilette but..... at least an aircraft that is not equipped with that by now annoying G1000Nxi
I remain cautious on this purchase. The Kodiak was overhyped and my experience flying it has not been good at all (really bad and useless engine wear model, i could firewall the throttle and not over torque it, ground handling sucked and torque on departure was often unmanageable with yaw damper doing nothing (needs to be balanced for sim peripherals). If this can overcome, we'll be good.
Thanks for the reminder, I was suffering from “temporary amnesia” as I have been anxiously awaiting the release of one of my favorite aircraft types, but you are right, the Kodiak was an absolute dumpster fire in the beginning. It’s still is not an aircraft I fly very often, as I just don’t like the way it feels.
Really wanted this aircraft, but SWS has really messed around with this one. Now, almost last minute, they announced that the “detailed” plane wont be released with failures etc. So not sure how or why that makes this aircraft so special now. I spoke out on their FB page and they banned me 😂 And we already have the Black Square TBM 850, which is pretty amazing
Btw….what they really hated about my FB comments was that they have relentlessly said “two more weeks”….”two more weeks”. When they had already told us that the aircraft had been sent to Pilatus for review, guess they forgot they said it, and then announced it again later. When I called them out they asked when they ever said it, and I copied and pasted all of their own comments for each time they said the plane would be released in two weeks, and when they said it went to Pilatus, when clearly it hadnt. They also didnt recognize that I was the very same one that had asked on a comments section in youtube, and they had also answered me there saying it was already with Pilatus. Its ridiculous
Because Mr Pilatus wouldn't let them. It doesn't detract from the quality of the systems. Barely anyone uses failures anyhow -- see the Navigraph survey.
you dont use IAS mode to climb, you use VS and then IAS only when you get higher up in the FL when its harder to hold speed. (so please dont use this on how to fly the aircraft) takeoff power is 43.3 not 38 psi. you bring flaps up to zero at 400 feet not 100 kts. dont use the tds its very outdated and runs on the garmin trainer, all charts are out of date and most actual things dont work on it that we have in the real plane you most DEFENITLY never descend in speed mode, thats a very bad no. its very unstable and bounces the aircraft. always use VS for that. you pressurize to cruise alt plus 500 and on ur descent you set field elevation plus 500. disabling the YD is done alot sooner than short final, as you guys saw his nose to was off cause the rudder trim was off. so he was fighting the trim. he had a real pc12 offer to give him tips and such but couldnt due to time constraints. im just making sure people dont take this as an instructional video is all. cant wait to see more
@@lancealotgalot literally my job is to fly this plane, it is stall protected. Literally had a pusher, and your job is to watch the plane as a pilot, if you out set something like 1200-1500 feet per minute it’ll go all the way to 250 or so, then you gotta slow the rate
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Love the rapid format. Excellent video review
Appreciate it!
Good vid. I like sws as a developer and have found there one of a few that seem to be realistic and honest about there products and processes. I remember when the kodiak was first released there was issues but they have know worked them out and hopefully learned a lot from that. I also like the haven’t released it out to the reviewers and vlogers weeks / months before release, due when developers do that I feel it’s teasing and I find I’m not as interested upon release or less interested. Pc12 may be one of my favourites obviously wait till I get my hands on it, also this type of aircraft is the sort I enjoy the most and more exciting than an airliner and is easier to make the most off.
But we have been spoiled lately by the tbm850 and the m500. But that’s good. I would like to also see some more business jets as well to come to the sim..
I want more business jets in MSFS more than any other potential addition. I’m a huge business aviation enthusiast and I’ve always felt the current selection is majorly lacking.
Very nice, thanks for the preview. But in what way would this be the "the most detailed single engine prop" compared to the other ones such as the A2A Comanche?
I said it might be - it's down for everyone to make their own minds up
@erim84 - I've just bought the PC-12 and it's lovely. But you're right, it was a silly statement. It's not groundbreaking in any way. It has no control panel / tablet. It has no maintenance or failures options. To be fair to SWS, that's why they priced it at only £21. It doesn't hold a candle to the A2A Comanche. It's just a 'good' addon. To say it might be the most detailed single engine prop in the sim is just unnecessary hyperbole.
@@droge192 would you say it´s better than Carenado´s PC12 ?
Nice preview Luke, its a very nice aircraft👍Strange that I liked the video and the likes are showing zero!
🙌 glad you enjoyed it! They've gone and done a great job making this PC-12 for sure, really nice addon! I'm sure the likes will refresh soon 👌
Thank you for flying in my city SXM
7:25 it's actually GEN2 then 1. It's been about 3 years since ive flown it but if I recall the order has to do with keeping the bus ties from tripping, though ive never had that problem in the series 10 nor the NG.
The Carenado PC12 has made a lot better due to some updates, and it also has a fantastic weather radar (Avidyne Flighmax), which is much more important to me than a board toilet.😊
This seems nicer than the Carenado.
Carenado is and will always be pretty. That is it. It is just pretty. Carenado will never ever be high fidelity. That is not their business model.
I am a bit confused after watching it. Did you go through the startup procedure? Other procedures seemed out of sequence.
If I went through and covered absolutely everything the video would be 2 hrs long 😅
How did you get the TDS into the plane purchase mine MSFS store
click the headrest to remove the crew.
looks good, thanks for preview.
How do you passengers in the plane?
Instrument reflections are way too intense.
Yet, ironically, the windshield doesn't seem to have any... or is just the way it looks in the video ?
How do I move about the cabin
11:54 thought ther pc-12 could go up to FL300? have they based it off an older version?
Ah good shout I was looking at a few bits online about FL200 but I've since found updates to FL300 on most in service which is pretty impressive!
yea he should have asked more questions and did more research it is 30000 feet.
I have one in msfs 2020..flys great. I don’t see anything different. Why should I buy it? Breakers working..ahh pressure.no the one I have has pressure. So there are more than one way to turn off something with the breakers? Hummmmm
Thanks for this video! It's looking good. Unfortunatelly, for the not so experienced sim-pilot, it's hard to follow your actions since your mouse cursor is not visible. That's a bummer.
Yeah that I can't work out either - as it's recording but then not showing in my editor, so that has me rather puzzled 😅
Thanks for the video, does it use a beta range, ie to manage taxi speed?
Yes, when you toggle reverse the initial throttle movement will get you into beta range. Then, as you keep powering, it will gradually enter reverse.
Yep!
Could you perhaps relate the fps hit against rivels, such as Carenado PC12 (very high) and TMB-850 (less than default unbelievably), please?
I run an RTX4090 so my FPS are never an issue with any addon, which makes it very difficult to monitor and compare frames (as I also have it locked to 4K60fps)
@@BritishAvgeek thank you very much for your response! 👍 Got the point, so I'll wait for feedback from someone with less OP setup 😁😇
What was that pop up with your fpm? Need that
Flow from Parallel 42
Compared to Carenado PC12, is this woth buying?
Absolutely! This is going to be way better than the Carenado version. Later it will get shipped with a failures package if you're into that.
Thanks for your good review. As someone who only fly's from bush planes up to bizjets and having flown the "other" PC-12 for a few months, I am poised to purchase this version as I can see how much better it will be in so many details. All the eye candy is nice but where it matters is flight dynamics and systems and this SWS version delivers. As for failures, I will get them when they come out but I wouldn't want them at first while learning anyway. Top marks to SWS.
Lol. 😂🎉🎉🎉
Do you maybe know, why I just have the standart Garmin 530/430 Version? Even I put the hook during the installation on the GTXi 750 one
You might have to check the files for the GTNXi mod
Which files do you mean exactly?
@@BritishAvgeek
i was curious, you didnt set the condition lever to flight idle before T/O
I did 👀
@@BritishAvgeek 😂😂😂ah, cus full throttle causes the ITT to go high unless i am
wrong
From your personal experience how does it compare to the tbm 850
The MSFS TBM? Much more detail in it
@@BritishAvgeek …. No, thats the 930. Talking about the Black Square TBM 850
@@jay-rus4437 oh - I've only flown the TBM once or twice since the video I did on it... I've found that's a bit more "tricky" to learn and the PC-12 generally a bit more easier to learn
@@BritishAvgeek …. Understand. Honestly, we have a lot of aircraft to choose from now. Still more on the way. For the most part I fly the Fenix a320, PMDG 737-800 or 900, or the TBM 850. Those 3 get 90% of my time.
Is this coming to Xbox
FSR500 or PC12?
How did you install the GNS ?
Providing you already have the GTNXi addon installed, when you install the SWS PC12 it asks which nav system you want to install - at that point you select the gtnxi option and it'll link up
Beautiful aircraft that I fell in love with, but I could never fly with it for longer than about half an hour because then the frame rates dropped below 10 fps and you could not fly with it any further.
All the tweaks from the FS2020 were applied, but my buddy and I did not get any further despite our sturdy periphery.
It really hurts after seeing your wonderful review!
You are probably talking about the Carenado PC-12 wich is not great. The one in the video is from Simworks Studios and is going to be released in a few hours (2023-12-06-1200z).
I’ll stick with Carenado, my TBM850 is plenty for a full up experience
Carenado has nothing on this. Eye candy at best. SWS PC12 feels like a real plane. I still need to practice doing a proper takeoff and landing. Everything else in the sim has an arcade feel but not this one!
The prop animation reeeeealy need some work... Specially when spooling up but mainly when taxying. You shouldnt be able to see individual blades like that with the naked eye.
The propeller in real life is visible even on flight ....
@@antonioiozzi4301 I mencioned individual prop and not the prop blur disk which is correctly animated during flight.
apparently you didnt hear him say its a beta. and his version he showed is very old. not close to whats releasing
No failures/wear simulation, no buy for me. There are so much good airplanes now with good wear and tear simulations, it makes no sense - in my opinion - to fly something where it makes no difference if you check your instruments or not.
does the cargo doors work?
Yes. There's a click spot from inside the cabin. Hard to spot, but it's there.
This is the turboprop I was waiting for. Lot on them landing on my swiss real life airport. The best seller amongst turboprops, and there is a good reason. Greath work from SWS. Too many animations just for fun, no need of a working toilette but..... at least an aircraft that is not equipped with that by now annoying G1000Nxi
It's a small feature that doesn't cost on performance but allows for a bit of a laugh I'm sure for many :)
I remain cautious on this purchase. The Kodiak was overhyped and my experience flying it has not been good at all (really bad and useless engine wear model, i could firewall the throttle and not over torque it, ground handling sucked and torque on departure was often unmanageable with yaw damper doing nothing (needs to be balanced for sim peripherals). If this can overcome, we'll be good.
Thanks for the reminder, I was suffering from “temporary amnesia” as I have been anxiously awaiting the release of one of my favorite aircraft types, but you are right, the Kodiak was an absolute dumpster fire in the beginning. It’s still is not an aircraft I fly very often, as I just don’t like the way it feels.
Skill issue tbh; you just have to practice with it and it flys well. It’s one of the highest rated aircraft for a reason.
Really wanted this aircraft, but SWS has really messed around with this one. Now, almost last minute, they announced that the “detailed” plane wont be released with failures etc. So not sure how or why that makes this aircraft so special now. I spoke out on their FB page and they banned me 😂 And we already have the Black Square TBM 850, which is pretty amazing
Btw….what they really hated about my FB comments was that they have relentlessly said “two more weeks”….”two more weeks”. When they had already told us that the aircraft had been sent to Pilatus for review, guess they forgot they said it, and then announced it again later. When I called them out they asked when they ever said it, and I copied and pasted all of their own comments for each time they said the plane would be released in two weeks, and when they said it went to Pilatus, when clearly it hadnt. They also didnt recognize that I was the very same one that had asked on a comments section in youtube, and they had also answered me there saying it was already with Pilatus. Its ridiculous
@@jay-rus4437 I believe Pilatus told them they couldn’t have the failures.
Nice 6.0 million dollar flying machine. I still dont get this pusher test..??
dont buy , no updates , no answer not help from publisher
Nice commercial. Lost me a deepest simulation with not even a failure model when planes like the TBM850 and the M500 exist.
Because Mr Pilatus wouldn't let them.
It doesn't detract from the quality of the systems.
Barely anyone uses failures anyhow -- see the Navigraph survey.
you dont use IAS mode to climb, you use VS and then IAS only when you get higher up in the FL when its harder to hold speed. (so please dont use this on how to fly the aircraft)
takeoff power is 43.3 not 38 psi.
you bring flaps up to zero at 400 feet not 100 kts.
dont use the tds its very outdated and runs on the garmin trainer, all charts are out of date and most actual things dont work on it that we have in the real plane
you most DEFENITLY never descend in speed mode, thats a very bad no. its very unstable and bounces the aircraft. always use VS for that.
you pressurize to cruise alt plus 500 and on ur descent you set field elevation plus 500.
disabling the YD is done alot sooner than short final, as you guys saw his nose to was off cause the rudder trim was off. so he was fighting the trim.
he had a real pc12 offer to give him tips and such but couldnt due to time constraints. im just making sure people dont take this as an instructional video is all. cant wait to see more
Using VS in climb is a bad idea, no stall protection. You should use IAS in climb if available.
@@lancealotgalot literally my job is to fly this plane, it is stall protected. Literally had a pusher, and your job is to watch the plane as a pilot, if you out set something like 1200-1500 feet per minute it’ll go all the way to 250 or so, then you gotta slow the rate