The issue with shipping characters like Blister and Vulture, is that you are basically shipping an actual snake and vulture. They are too alike and they are going to try to deceive, manipulate, and backstab, each other because they consider each other a threat. There can be only one evil genius in this town.
I don’t know much about vulture aside from the fact he has tattoos all on his neck but I do remember them being on the villain tier list so I’m assuming he was evil in more ways then another
No one: Me after finding about the love triangle: okay but seriously a toxic relationship for moon? Oh no no no winter. It’s one word. Q.I.B.L.I. (Sorry I had too. It just came into my mind.)
I’m so glad Mangrove and Orchid got such a fantastic rating. These two are my favorite non-protagonist romance and it’s not even a contest with the other ones. Their love story is simple, yet amazing! When Glory meets Mangrove in Book 3, she promises him that he’ll find his lover, and this reignites his hope that he will. When Starflight meets Orchid in Book 4, he promises her that her lover is coming to the rescue, and this gives her the strength to keep holding on long enough to see him again. Both protagonists were present to witness their reunion. It’s just so perfect!
Fathom and indigos relationship is actually very fun but sad to read. They have such a teasing relationship and it was obvious after the whole sea wing massacre and before that they had crushes on each other. Though pearl told him to stay away from her to keep the animus line gone he was heartbroken, cause he loved but also he wanted to keep her safe and stay away from her. When he found out she had left he felt upset and lonely without her an when they reunited he was happy she alright and safe! In the end they both got their happy ending,and I loved how tui wrote and developed them it’s a relationship I just loved reading about them! So I agree with them being in S+
Turtle × Kinkajou is the one mainstream ship I have an issue with, but that's more due to my extreme hatred of the Love Spell/Potion trope rather than anything wrong with their chemistry.
@@JadeMountainArchive well, like a lot of other things Tui did towards the latter half of the series I feel like she didn't handle it as well as she could've. Kinkajou gets enchanted to "love Turtle as much as he loves her" and because he's just mildly fond she treats him the same way. That's pretty good and interesting writing. But then the spell is removed and suddenly Tui and most of the fanbase is implying they're actually into each other, and I'm left like "Wait, what? Wasn't the point of the spell is they didn't really see each other that way?" TL;DR Turtle/Kinkajou to me is like what Blue/Cricket is to you.
I’m so glad orchid and mangrove got such a high rating! I love their relationship the way mangrove never gave up on her and she never gave up on him to come for her. They truly have such a beautiful relationship relationships like this is what people should strive for. They are my second favorite arc 1 ship behind Starspeaker
I know this sounds like a long shot, but I think Winter and Kinkajou may work if given a shot. There is one major thing that a partner of Winter needs to have to keep the relationship from being toxic: they can’t be afraid to confront him directly when things are getting out of hand. The main reason why I think neither Moon nor Qibli would make a good partner for Winter is because they never defend themselves during the times Winter is being unfair and lets his temper get the better of him. Qibli tries to joke around the issue and act like he’s not bothered by it while Moon just simply remains quiet and anxiously waits for the yelling to end on its own. Kinkajou however has no fear of saying the hard things that Winter needs to hear to get sense back into him during the times he’s taking things too far, and I feel like Winter really appreciates the rough honesty she gives. He doesn’t seem to feel the need to put on a superior tone mask when talking to Kinkajou like he does with Moon or Qibli. He’s actually quite comfortable around her. If Winter and Kinkajou did end up getting into a romance, I would be interested to see how it played out.
While I mostly love BluexCricket because I'm horribly biased in Cricket's favor in general, I also think that the instant love is part of the appeal of the couple. They're basically soulmates trope without the soul marks, and there's something really appealing about two people clicking without any personality clashes and then deciding to make it work. Plus personally I'm a major sucker for strangers being forced to immediately become ride or die for each other. Especially if they actually get along from the get-go.
7:36 honestly, if Moon wasn’t in the picture, I probably would’ve been rooting for Umber to give things a shot with Qibli. I think they would work pretty well together. Not as well as Moon and Qibli do of course, but pretty well.
Sunlow will FOREVER be top of S tier in my mind. They are enough opposite-ish that they balance each other out but have enough similarities that make them really compatible. Also they are so freaking cute!!! One small one that might’ve been missed is Belladonna x Hemlock. (Also Sequoia x Hawthorn was somewhat implied in book 13 but idk how much people ship them)
why, oh why, is tau x treehopper soo underrated?? it has the forbidden love, desperate search for each other, hope, fluffiness.. i remember watching the first video last year. it's so amazing to see how much this channel has grown
4:30 - Wings of fire book 10, The darkness of dragons. Page 167. "I would if I had known," He said fiercely. Behind him, Thorn reached out and brushed his wing lightly with hers. Smolder kept his gaze on Onyx, but his body seemed to react subconsciously, leaning toward Thorn so their wings stayed connected. *When did they start falling for eachother?* Qibli wondered. How had he missed it? He hadn’t been away at school for that long - but then, he hadn’t seen much of Thorn in the last few months as usual, with her royal duties keeping her busy. *Thorn and Smolder, really? I guess Sunny did tell her to go have more eggs, so there would be heirs to the SandWing throne who actually wanted to be queen.* *But she’ll have to survive this first.* *And she might have to kill his daughter in front of him.*
I felt like Starspeaker deserved higher it’s definitely the best arc 1 ship to me. When reading StarFlight book the subtext of their relationship is written quite well. Fatespeaker seems to know how to being out the best in StarFlight and sees the good things in him. Fate believes in him an observes that StarFlight is a brilliant brave dragon when the others couldn’t see that. StarFlight was also there to protect fatespeaker from her horrible friends who she pretended were her friends. He was the only dragon who really showed her kindness and found her different from other night wings like him. I think they have a very well written romance and to me they are the best arc 1 ship.
I an quite happy with the results, and blicket at the top is amazing! I can understand why Turtlejou wasn't higher and there were a bunch of ships better than those two, even if they are my favorite. Keep posting amazing content Jma and I can't wait to see the next video you have in store for us!
Clay x Peril is my all time favourite I mean i remember in one book Moon asked Peril how her conversation with Clay went and her reply was like "It was great! Um i mean it was it was fine..."
Wow this is the first ever teir list I've ever actually voted for i absolutely love your videos even though i was a little disappointed the clearsight and Darkstalker didn't end up in S teir since there my favorite ship also you just earned yourself a new subscriber🎉
I feel so happy that Sundew x Willow is consistently rated the best ship because they really do have the best relationship in all of the books. Obviously there are other good ones, but that one scene where Sundew sarcastically calls Willow "light of my life" had me giggling and kicking my feet for minutes. Not to mention literally every other scene they have together.
Oh gods am I so glad this fandom isn't d3ad 😭 I was sooooooo obsessed with this book from my 8-10th grade (yes, you read that correct) I was so obsessed I got my other friend into it and would literally BUY HER EACH BOOK from the 3rd book.
I feel if Riptide had screentime for how rough his upbrigning was and Tsunami kept her character development, their relationship would be more liked overall. As is, it's just a giant meh.
You earned my respect, me subscribing to your TH-cam channel and you becoming one of my top 3 favorite TH-cam channels the nanosecond you said your opinion on Moonbli.
Wow ... I believe ships like Kinkajou x Moon and Sunny x Fatespeaker gotten a low rating cause they are friends. It seems obvious in the series that they are not lebesians and more of friends. I think the Pantala ships were pretty clear. That brings them to a high rating.
I’m glad Blue and Cricket got to the top! I feel Winter and Moon + Turtle and Peril should be higher, but I understand why a lot of people liked certain ships over others
Ok, honestly..... Am I the only one who shipped Turtle and Peril when reading book 8, then realized Turtle liked Kinkajou, then remembered Peril likes Clay?
Anyone who knows me knows that I'm really big into the fanon side of this series; and character dissections, what if's, and ships are some of my favorite things to discuss!
Her: "He's probably thinking about other girls" Him: "The WoF Fandom should treat Peril x Trutle the same way they do Glory x Deathbringer since Peril is 20 in Dragon years & Turtle (at the oldest) is 14"
1:24 No, I totally agree with you. I can see the appeal of it, but Ripnami x Tsunami is just so plain to me... Tsunami deserves someone with more personality 🙄 Besides Riptide being boring, I also feel like Riptide x Tsunami is a little unhealthy...? Tsunami looses her temper with Riptide a lot and Riptide lies to her repeatedly. One of the only nice moments I remember them having is when Riptide teaches Tsunami Aquatic. I think Riptide x Tsunami could fit in B tier. It's fine at best and a little rocky at worst. 1:31 I've never been on the Glory x Deathbringer boat... I feel like Deathbringer is kind of obsessive over her?? 1:51 I love them 🥺 Seeing Mangrove - a sad, gloomy character - instantly light up when he saw Orchid is 💖💞💕 2:17 I'm glad that the Sunny x Starlight hype is beginning to phase out. I liked it when I was little, but I now realize that it's weird. Sunny sees Starflight as a brother. Rejection also isn't shown all too often in children's books, which is why I think Sunny politely turning Starflight down is important. 3:41 Burn kidnapped Scarlet and held her prisoner 🤨 If Scarlet ever saw Burn again, she'd probably gut her. Not relationship goals. 4:01 I think Blister and Morrowseer just tolerate each other. Blister would probably backstab him (possibly literally) if she saw greater opportunity. 10:13 Luna x Swordtail might be one of my favorite ships in the series! I absolutely adore how well they match each other's energy. 10:36 Alright, Blue x Cricket is a bit of a guilty pleasure to me... I think it's rushed and underdeveloped but it's also REALLY cute. Even I wouldn't place in S tier, though... Maybe A tier. 11:21 The hammock scene with Jambu and Pineapple lives rent free in my head.
10:03 he only used his magic after he knew that Darkstalker did somthing to Indigo, and he put together that Dalkstalker would do it again if not taken down, so technically it was for her
I feel like Moonbli is to the WoF fandom what Brightheart x Cloudtail is to the Warriors Fandom. Some people are into canon pairings, others prefer rarepairs, but they’re that one m/f couple that treat each other so nicely that everyone either likes them or loves them.
Hello new reader to WOF here lol I really love your videos JMA and a lot of these ships idk because I haven’t read them yet but I’m sure I’ll get there! :D
Jma: uploads a ship video and doesn’t include JMA x Qibli on the official list. The fans: only put JMA x Qibli for the next one to get it on the list. Also, I love the stat hats, you should make that some merch, I would totally get that.
I expected a lot more people to be fighting over which ships were better in the comment section, so it was pretty nice to see everyone getting along well.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING! I hate Pertle with a *burning* passion. Turtle is canonically 5. Peril is 8. If I see *one* Pertle shipper in public, they better start praying to God.
Nahh I only ship Qinter because book 6 Winter asked for a private cave than Qibli said *IM UR DESTINY* and than Kinkajous’s mind says I wish he was my destiny and than the 7th book Qibli is sneaking and following winter moon and glory to where icicle killed a nightwing and Qibli says he wants me to come along but he won’t admit it (smt like that)
In the front: Orchid and mangrove hugging In the background: Starflight giving A FREAKING SPEAR to glory, preparing to 1: "visit" a queen who lives in lava, 2: release a ASSASSIN, and 3: escape an erupting volcano 💀💀💀
Please remember, guys, characters can like each other and interact with each other without it being romantic. Any of the sandwing sister ships, Qinter, Anemarin and many more are friends and absolutely nothing more in my eyes. This is just MY personal opinion, but i think people tend to be really weird about it. I dont think every character needs to be constantly romanticized all the time.
I’m not a moonbil fan nor winterwatcher but I prefer moonbil. It’s more healthy and the way qibil compliments moon is just very sweet relationships like that are just 👌.part of me will say they are work out pretty well. I just don’t like how moonbil was executed I wanted more wholesome scenes with them than what we got. To me it felt kinda rush but it was the best way for it to go it felt boring to me but overall it’s a solid ship. Winterwatcher has issues and I think the fandom knows it. Winter isn’t Ready for a relationship right now as he is still healing from some trauma , so he needs to work on himself and that’s what he is doing! Moon couldn’t really stand up to winter which isn’t great and usually yelled at her. The only time I justify winter for yelling at her was when she was trusting Darkstalker though he could’ve did it a better way I felt it was justifiable(again could be me being a winter bias). Also they both have some trust issues Moon couldn’t tell him what happened to Darkstalker but that also could’ve let up to the whole trusting thing, and winter couldn’t trust that much from the beginning so how could we possibly trust them in a relationship. Overall winterwatcher isn’t a great ship but it’s definitely interesting if winter would’ve grown up in a more loving environment I think I would actually like this ship. But again I’m not the biggest shipper in the world so I don’t ship most things. Also where is JMA x qibil at!?
No I’m not a moonbil fan I just think moonbil is the better Ship sense it was the best possible way for it to go. I’m more neutral on the shipping if it was just to more executed better. (Hope I explain this better)
I was jumping around my room when you put glory and deathbringer at A+. I mean, above Qibli and moon??? WOW! Did I mention Glorybringer is my homescreen? Thank so much for posting JMA!
Love your videos❤❤❤ I’ve been subbed sense I figured out your channel existed. You should do a face reveal at 75k subscribers! Also I think personally that Moonbli deserves S++
I couldn't vote on the previous poll cause i stillwasn't done reading the books... but now that i'm done with the main 15 (what an adventure...) i can participate on the character Poll :D (P.s.: may be biased, but Sunny is S+ Tier)
I rate the ship an A- because while I do enjoy their chemistry, I don't really like the way Tui handled the love triangle; it felt somewhat rushed and sloppy towards the end, and dispite Tui trying to make Winter work it was pretty obvious from the start who her preferred couple was.
1:58 It makes sense because the Rainwings don't care much if someone goes missing or something happens to others as shown in the 3rd book, but Mangrove still remembered Orchid and insisted on going looking for her
I am a fan of Dragonslayer through and through, but the one thing I kind of feel mixed about is the ships. I don't mind Wrendauntable and Leaf X Ivy, but I wished they had better introductions. For Leaf and Ivy, I think they should've remained friends until the end of a potential Arc 4 where they confess. That way, they have time to develop a fine relationship. However, this is ONE ship I think beats Dragonslayer's ships and that is Rowan x Grove. To me, they were the Orchid and Mangrove of Dragonslayer. Despite having little screentime, the fact that Rowan was willing to infiltrate Scarlet's crib as means of saving his life and was the first to make him feel at home in Talisman honestly makes me sad that they're not noticed more. I don't mind Wrendauntable being a thing, but I don't want it to be forced. Undauntable and Wren still have room to grow, considering they are both still young and each has issues they need to work on. Leaf and Ivy, I do like but it felt automatic and I wished they have a relationship similar to Glory and Deathbringer; One plays the role of bodyguard, the other Scholar, and helps assist the other journey of finding Sunny. And finally, I am a proud shipper of Sky and Sunny. Tui, LET SKY COOK!!! LET HIM COOK!!!
i feel like everyone forgot that secretkeeper were morrowseers mates and had moonwatcher AND NO SMOLDER AND THORN ARE THE PERFECT WOF COUPLE Btw i think you should have added listener and thoughtful & Darkstalker and Clearsight
The worst thing about shipping characters in fandoms: People will NOT allow friends of the same gender to be friends. It is irritating as heck-! Let them be friends instead of pulling through your fantasy of lgbtq ships! People of the same gender can be friends. Remember this- like please-
People can ship whatever the hell they want so long as it’s not problematic, it’s also literally Pride Month right now so it’s kind of our moment don’t you think?
@@kaliido_scope thank you kal. It is so so annoying to see cishets comment that it is shoving it in our faces yet all of the Canon ships are just cishets.
@@deborahmouzouris4113 Exactly, plus this comment is just silly. WoF has so many canon pairings that are very heteronormative and don’t get a lot of development before the relationship starts, it conditioned me as a 7 year old to always suspect romance between a male and a female character if they were shown to be friends. I remember thinking that Turtle was going to be part of the love triangle just because he was nice to Moon. With all of the romance in WoF abound, why would you blame people for shipping characters that otherwise are either friends or don’t interact much at all? Singling out lgbtq pairings just feels wrong.
Ok so you better not ship straight ships that arent canon then, because in your words they are just friends. But i bet you would ship non canon straight couples (nothing wrong with it. I have some to, but if you ship them but say its wrong to ship non-canon lgbtq+ characters then why?)
The issue with shipping characters like Blister and Vulture, is that you are basically shipping an actual snake and vulture. They are too alike and they are going to try to deceive, manipulate, and backstab, each other because they consider each other a threat. There can be only one evil genius in this town.
And to bear witness to their battle is what makes them so great!
They could have a bad romance lol
I don’t know much about vulture aside from the fact he has tattoos all on his neck but I do remember them being on the villain tier list so I’m assuming he was evil in more ways then another
Vulture: Chill and Hate Hybrids? No, Likes hybrids and is a evil intimidating villain, Yes
No one:
Me after finding about the love triangle: okay but seriously a toxic relationship for moon? Oh no no no winter. It’s one word. Q.I.B.L.I. (Sorry I had too. It just came into my mind.)
Burn x Scarlet
Everyone: omg they fit together well
Lore: *throws scarlet in glory’s venom and imprisons her afterwards*
Don't forget, Glory was aiming at Burn, who grabbed Scarlet and used her as a human shield
@@TrickyTalon23 dragon*
@@TrickyTalon23 *meat sheild
And in their conversation right before that, Scarlet casually reminds Burn of how her mother died horribly. How romantic.
great ship 10/10 :D
I’m so glad Mangrove and Orchid got such a fantastic rating. These two are my favorite non-protagonist romance and it’s not even a contest with the other ones. Their love story is simple, yet amazing!
When Glory meets Mangrove in Book 3, she promises him that he’ll find his lover, and this reignites his hope that he will.
When Starflight meets Orchid in Book 4, he promises her that her lover is coming to the rescue, and this gives her the strength to keep holding on long enough to see him again.
Both protagonists were present to witness their reunion. It’s just so perfect!
Agreed!
Fr probably one of the best relationships in the series
Hi again
Yea except for the fact that ppl thought it was a lesbian relationship lmao
Apparently mangrove is a girl now ;-;
Fathom and indigos relationship is actually very fun but sad to read. They have such a teasing relationship and it was obvious after the whole sea wing massacre and before that they had crushes on each other. Though pearl told him to stay away from her to keep the animus line gone he was heartbroken, cause he loved but also he wanted to keep her safe and stay away from her. When he found out she had left he felt upset and lonely without her an when they reunited he was happy she alright and safe! In the end they both got their happy ending,and I loved how tui wrote and developed them it’s a relationship I just loved reading about them! So I agree with them being in S+
It was such a joy to read about their kids at the end of Darkstalker legends :))
Why is it anytime I hear pearl like here, I think of coral, like what, but this comm is straight true
it was so sad reading it and then a year later reading it and watching fathom think she left him :(
Turtle × Kinkajou is the one mainstream ship I have an issue with, but that's more due to my extreme hatred of the Love Spell/Potion trope rather than anything wrong with their chemistry.
Interesting - I think I see their relationship as a critique of that trope more than anything else.
@@JadeMountainArchive well, like a lot of other things Tui did towards the latter half of the series I feel like she didn't handle it as well as she could've.
Kinkajou gets enchanted to "love Turtle as much as he loves her" and because he's just mildly fond she treats him the same way. That's pretty good and interesting writing. But then the spell is removed and suddenly Tui and most of the fanbase is implying they're actually into each other, and I'm left like "Wait, what? Wasn't the point of the spell is they didn't really see each other that way?"
TL;DR Turtle/Kinkajou to me is like what Blue/Cricket is to you.
@@JadeMountainArchive HIIIII JMA IR THE 1 AND ONLY BEST WOF YTER
@@pyronuke4768Well, Kinkajou said shed try to find out if she DID have feelings, not that she definitely did.
I’m so glad orchid and mangrove got such a high rating! I love their relationship the way mangrove never gave up on her and she never gave up on him to come for her. They truly have such a beautiful relationship relationships like this is what people should strive for. They are my second favorite arc 1 ship behind Starspeaker
I know this sounds like a long shot, but I think Winter and Kinkajou may work if given a shot. There is one major thing that a partner of Winter needs to have to keep the relationship from being toxic: they can’t be afraid to confront him directly when things are getting out of hand. The main reason why I think neither Moon nor Qibli would make a good partner for Winter is because they never defend themselves during the times Winter is being unfair and lets his temper get the better of him. Qibli tries to joke around the issue and act like he’s not bothered by it while Moon just simply remains quiet and anxiously waits for the yelling to end on its own. Kinkajou however has no fear of saying the hard things that Winter needs to hear to get sense back into him during the times he’s taking things too far, and I feel like Winter really appreciates the rough honesty she gives. He doesn’t seem to feel the need to put on a superior tone mask when talking to Kinkajou like he does with Moon or Qibli. He’s actually quite comfortable around her. If Winter and Kinkajou did end up getting into a romance, I would be interested to see how it played out.
This paragraph is why I ship Winterjou.
Plus they have a really sweet scene together in the Darkness of Dragons epilogue, so It's not like the ship is canonically unrealistic.
tricky. you made 4 different comments and all of them got a heart... teach me your ways.
True, but I feel like lynx is like that as well. So I ship winter and lynx (no offense)
@@Javelin2097 I’d be up for that too
I’m glad that Indigo x Fathom (Idk their ship name), Glorybringer, and Moonbli are all so high on the list because they’re my favorites :)
Fathigo maybe? (They’re my favorites too)
@@wisdomseeker410 Yeah I'm pretty sure thats their ship name
YESS, MOONBLI 😍
I thought it was qibliwatcher
@@KeyholeGodIt could be, I’ve just heard Moonbli more 🤷🏼♀️
While I mostly love BluexCricket because I'm horribly biased in Cricket's favor in general, I also think that the instant love is part of the appeal of the couple. They're basically soulmates trope without the soul marks, and there's something really appealing about two people clicking without any personality clashes and then deciding to make it work. Plus personally I'm a major sucker for strangers being forced to immediately become ride or die for each other. Especially if they actually get along from the get-go.
I mean, yeah
@@BlueTheSilkwing Oh hi blue, how's cricket doing?
personally I love the ship but the instant love part is my least favorite part
not that it doesn't have its merits though
7:36 honestly, if Moon wasn’t in the picture, I probably would’ve been rooting for Umber to give things a shot with Qibli. I think they would work pretty well together. Not as well as Moon and Qibli do of course, but pretty well.
You might be everywhere, but you are one of the little people who actually relate to me shjshsjshj
Hi again
Also I totally agree with you
Darkstalker is like a holy text for me. Without a doubt fav book in series. Closely followed by book 15
Judging by everyone’s review of it, I’ll definitely have to read it over the summer!
I’m only on book eight but I NEED to check it out
It IS a historical document...
Sunlow will FOREVER be top of S tier in my mind. They are enough opposite-ish that they balance each other out but have enough similarities that make them really compatible. Also they are so freaking cute!!! One small one that might’ve been missed is Belladonna x Hemlock. (Also Sequoia x Hawthorn was somewhat implied in book 13 but idk how much people ship them)
idk man
why, oh why, is tau x treehopper soo underrated?? it has the forbidden love, desperate search for each other, hope, fluffiness..
i remember watching the first video last year. it's so amazing to see how much this channel has grown
Likely due to how little pages it got, Tau being only a step up from a background character and Treehopper not getting more than a few mentions iirc
To be fair it was only there for a few pages but oh my gosh I love that moment so much
Glorybringer team 👇
Yes they're the best 🩷
Yes❤❤❤❤
Yes
Yes
100%, cutest couple in the whole series
4:30 - Wings of fire book 10, The darkness of dragons. Page 167.
"I would if I had known," He said fiercely. Behind him, Thorn reached out and brushed his wing lightly with hers. Smolder kept his gaze on Onyx, but his body seemed to react subconsciously, leaning toward Thorn so their wings stayed connected.
*When did they start falling for eachother?* Qibli wondered. How had he missed it? He hadn’t been away at school for that long - but then, he hadn’t seen much of Thorn in the last few months as usual, with her royal duties keeping her busy. *Thorn and Smolder, really? I guess Sunny did tell her to go have more eggs, so there would be heirs to the SandWing throne who actually wanted to be queen.*
*But she’ll have to survive this first.*
*And she might have to kill his daughter in front of him.*
I am so happy to see this back! This was the first video I saw from you so I am so happy to see it back and better!
The love triangle of moon,qibli,and winter never seems to stop interesting readers
I remember voting for these, it was such a cool idea to redo it! Amazing video! You should have more subs then you do. No one can prove me wrong
I felt like Starspeaker deserved higher it’s definitely the best arc 1 ship to me. When reading StarFlight book the subtext of their relationship is written quite well. Fatespeaker seems to know how to being out the best in StarFlight and sees the good things in him. Fate believes in him an observes that StarFlight is a brilliant brave dragon when the others couldn’t see that. StarFlight was also there to protect fatespeaker from her horrible friends who she pretended were her friends. He was the only dragon who really showed her kindness and found her different from other night wings like him. I think they have a very well written romance and to me they are the best arc 1 ship.
Also don’t they have kids in that vision that Moon had? So it’s like half canon too
right?? I totally agree, I wish it was a more reconized and loved ship
I an quite happy with the results, and blicket at the top is amazing! I can understand why Turtlejou wasn't higher and there were a bunch of ships better than those two, even if they are my favorite. Keep posting amazing content Jma and I can't wait to see the next video you have in store for us!
Clay x Peril is my all time favourite I mean i remember in one book Moon asked Peril how her conversation with Clay went and her reply was like "It was great! Um i mean it was it was fine..."
THE RETURN OF THE TIER LIST!!! Haven't seen it yet and can't for a bit (busy) but I'M SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow this is the first ever teir list I've ever actually voted for i absolutely love your videos even though i was a little disappointed the clearsight and Darkstalker didn't end up in S teir since there my favorite ship also you just earned yourself a new subscriber🎉
I feel so happy that Sundew x Willow is consistently rated the best ship because they really do have the best relationship in all of the books. Obviously there are other good ones, but that one scene where Sundew sarcastically calls Willow "light of my life" had me giggling and kicking my feet for minutes. Not to mention literally every other scene they have together.
Oh gods am I so glad this fandom isn't d3ad 😭 I was sooooooo obsessed with this book from my 8-10th grade (yes, you read that correct) I was so obsessed I got my other friend into it and would literally BUY HER EACH BOOK from the 3rd book.
Also, I was that fan that made SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many OC's 💀
This was a good vid to redo I can't wait to see the character tier list!
For the sunny fatespeaker i think it was because they were friends not in a relationship
Yeah, a surprising number of these ships weren’t actually canon
Finally got to vote for one of your vids (character tier list remake)! Love the channel!!
I feel if Riptide had screentime for how rough his upbrigning was and Tsunami kept her character development, their relationship would be more liked overall. As is, it's just a giant meh.
You earned my respect, me subscribing to your TH-cam channel and you becoming one of my top 3 favorite TH-cam channels the nanosecond you said your opinion on Moonbli.
Hahaha nice
Wow ... I believe ships like Kinkajou x Moon and Sunny x Fatespeaker gotten a low rating cause they are friends. It seems obvious in the series that they are not lebesians and more of friends. I think the Pantala ships were pretty clear. That brings them to a high rating.
I’m glad Blue and Cricket got to the top! I feel Winter and Moon + Turtle and Peril should be higher, but I understand why a lot of people liked certain ships over others
Ok, honestly.....
Am I the only one who shipped Turtle and Peril when reading book 8, then realized Turtle liked Kinkajou, then remembered Peril likes Clay?
Not theonly one
The statistics have proven that having Qibli in a ship automatically makes it higher on the list 😎
qibli is the goat i mean like hes my favorite character by far !!!! i have made a lot of sketches of him
Anyone who knows me knows that I'm really big into the fanon side of this series; and character dissections, what if's, and ships are some of my favorite things to discuss!
Her: "He's probably thinking about other girls"
Him: "The WoF Fandom should treat Peril x Trutle the same way they do Glory x Deathbringer since Peril is 20 in Dragon years & Turtle (at the oldest) is 14"
It's pedophilia. Bruh, Pertle shippers should be in JAIL.
Peril is actuslly 7-8 and turtle is like 5 i think??
@@randomgirlontheinternet1735 I said in Dragon Years
@@avacornthelastponybender8583 exactly, in dragon years they're what i said above
@@randomgirlontheinternet1735 NO, that's how old they are TECHNICALLY
In Dragon years, Peril is 20ish & Turtle is 12-14
i love sundew and willow they are such a good ship and they care about one another
1:24 No, I totally agree with you. I can see the appeal of it, but Ripnami x Tsunami is just so plain to me... Tsunami deserves someone with more personality 🙄
Besides Riptide being boring, I also feel like Riptide x Tsunami is a little unhealthy...? Tsunami looses her temper with Riptide a lot and Riptide lies to her repeatedly. One of the only nice moments I remember them having is when Riptide teaches Tsunami Aquatic.
I think Riptide x Tsunami could fit in B tier. It's fine at best and a little rocky at worst.
1:31 I've never been on the Glory x Deathbringer boat... I feel like Deathbringer is kind of obsessive over her??
1:51 I love them 🥺 Seeing Mangrove - a sad, gloomy character - instantly light up when he saw Orchid is 💖💞💕
2:17 I'm glad that the Sunny x Starlight hype is beginning to phase out. I liked it when I was little, but I now realize that it's weird. Sunny sees Starflight as a brother.
Rejection also isn't shown all too often in children's books, which is why I think Sunny politely turning Starflight down is important.
3:41 Burn kidnapped Scarlet and held her prisoner 🤨 If Scarlet ever saw Burn again, she'd probably gut her. Not relationship goals.
4:01 I think Blister and Morrowseer just tolerate each other. Blister would probably backstab him (possibly literally) if she saw greater opportunity.
10:13 Luna x Swordtail might be one of my favorite ships in the series! I absolutely adore how well they match each other's energy.
10:36 Alright, Blue x Cricket is a bit of a guilty pleasure to me... I think it's rushed and underdeveloped but it's also REALLY cute. Even I wouldn't place in S tier, though... Maybe A tier.
11:21 The hammock scene with Jambu and Pineapple lives rent free in my head.
Oh, and I think Fatespeaker x Sunny and Qibli x Winter could be cute, but I think they have better chemistry as friends 🤷
FINALLY, someone who agrees with me on glorybringer!
Sundew and Willow is by far my favourite ship. They are just so cute together. The perfect couple. ❤❤❤
thats a very good ship
I agree with this tier list.
Awesome video JMA!
Thorn times Stonemover? Since when did ships become equations?
10:35 the forbidden romance? is there one in arc three that is not forbidden?
WAIT YOUR FIRST SHIP TIER LIST WAS A YEAR AGO-? Man time flies
truuuueeee
10:03
he only used his magic after he knew that Darkstalker did somthing to Indigo, and he put together that Dalkstalker would do it again if not taken down, so technically it was for her
3:56 I would prefer to keep my Stats Hat on as well as my “The Data Does Not Lie” T-Shirt
lol
I just love it how JMA includes his loyal fans in his videos!
Also...
12:16
I feel like Moonbli is to the WoF fandom what Brightheart x Cloudtail is to the Warriors Fandom. Some people are into canon pairings, others prefer rarepairs, but they’re that one m/f couple that treat each other so nicely that everyone either likes them or loves them.
@The Jade Mountain Archive. What Hybrid is your dragon? He's really cute and I have a feeling he is Nightwing/Silkwing?
Bro am I glad that Whirlpool and Annenome weren't there
Don’t you dare mention it’s name
Me to dude
But @agentkkid1903 is right
wow, a whole year after the last ship tierlist and jma x qibli is still one of my favorites
Morrowseer X Pyroclastic Flow & Scarlet X Magical Death Spit didn't make the cut 😔
Scarlet x Magical death spit is clearly the best ship here, so sad it wasn't in S tier 💔
So underrated
Hello new reader to WOF here lol I really love your videos JMA and a lot of these ships idk because I haven’t read them yet but I’m sure I’ll get there! :D
For me it feels like Glacier is babysitting Blaze
Day 17 of asking JMA to do a winter vs sword tail rap battle
Sundew and Willow and Darkstalker and Clearsight got A!?
That is something I was not expecting
Jma: uploads a ship video and doesn’t include JMA x Qibli on the official list.
The fans: only put JMA x Qibli for the next one to get it on the list.
Also, I love the stat hats, you should make that some merch, I would totally get that.
First, I couldn’t wait for the vid once you said it was coming out this week! (Turn on notis!)
Hm. Still don’t like Glorybringer, but I can tolerate its existence if I just turn away and try to forget it. Out of sight, out of mind.
Yesss Fathigo ftw
I think snowflake and snowfox are not bad guys
I expected a lot more people to be fighting over which ships were better in the comment section, so it was pretty nice to see everyone getting along well.
SUNDEW AND WILLOW BEST SHIP EVER
4:04 Where can I buy the stat hat?
Sunlow, Blicket, and Qinter for live!( in my opinion)
I mean…
You aren’t wrong
Yessssssss
Can you believe clearsight ‘made’ pantala though!? I can’t!
Turtle and Qibli are dragonets. Can we *please* stop shipping canonical minors with adult dragons.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!
I hate Pertle with a *burning* passion.
Turtle is canonically 5. Peril is 8. If I see *one* Pertle shipper in public, they better start praying to God.
@@Your_Local_Rat13So canonically they are both gen alpha and watch skibidi toilet…
Love the remake!
We should all put Qibli as a 1 on the character tier list and see how mad he gets
Imma do that
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@@JadeMountainArchive lol I was joking, chill
Sunlow is my favorite ship. I love Sundews fierceness and Willow's quiet, gentle personality and they are both just so cute together
Yay, a new jma video. I'm always excited to see your videos. Also, Happy Pride Month!
Beautiful video as always
Nahh I only ship Qinter because book 6 Winter asked for a private cave than Qibli said *IM UR DESTINY* and than Kinkajous’s mind says I wish he was my destiny and than the 7th book Qibli is sneaking and following winter moon and glory to where icicle killed a nightwing and Qibli says he wants me to come along but he won’t admit it (smt like that)
Don't forget in the actual book,
I don't remember which-
But quibli was joking and said smth about winter ' wanting to marry him ' I think
Thats book ten but at the time i hadnt read book 10 i have now@@The_FnafFan
@@Ace_Cow Ohh
8:44 THIS.
DESERVES S++++++
THE SCENE THEY MET MADE ME CRY
Sundew and willow is the best ship!
In the front: Orchid and mangrove hugging
In the background: Starflight giving A FREAKING SPEAR to glory, preparing to 1: "visit" a queen who lives in lava, 2: release a ASSASSIN, and 3: escape an erupting volcano 💀💀💀
Where is moon and darkstalker?
Because they shouldn’t be shipped- (No offense but Darkstalker has a girlfriend bro)
Lol
@@larafairleyalso there’s like a 2000 year age gap
Please remember, guys, characters can like each other and interact with each other without it being romantic. Any of the sandwing sister ships, Qinter, Anemarin and many more are friends and absolutely nothing more in my eyes. This is just MY personal opinion, but i think people tend to be really weird about it. I dont think every character needs to be constantly romanticized all the time.
Yes!
character ships when battleships walks in
lol
“Those suggestions made me smile!”
Yeah… ‘smile’
I’m not a moonbil fan nor winterwatcher but I prefer moonbil. It’s more healthy and the way qibil compliments moon is just very sweet relationships like that are just 👌.part of me will say they are work out pretty well. I just don’t like how moonbil was executed I wanted more wholesome scenes with them than what we got. To me it felt kinda rush but it was the best way for it to go it felt boring to me but overall it’s a solid ship. Winterwatcher has issues and I think the fandom knows it. Winter isn’t Ready for a relationship right now as he is still healing from some trauma , so he needs to work on himself and that’s what he is doing! Moon couldn’t really stand up to winter which isn’t great and usually yelled at her. The only time I justify winter for yelling at her was when she was trusting Darkstalker though he could’ve did it a better way I felt it was justifiable(again could be me being a winter bias). Also they both have some trust issues Moon couldn’t tell him what happened to Darkstalker but that also could’ve let up to the whole trusting thing, and winter couldn’t trust that much from the beginning so how could we possibly trust them in a relationship. Overall winterwatcher isn’t a great ship but it’s definitely interesting if winter would’ve grown up in a more loving environment I think I would actually like this ship. But again I’m not the biggest shipper in the world so I don’t ship most things. Also where is JMA x qibil at!?
U said ur not a moonbli fan but ur a moonbli fan. Hhhh?
No I’m not a moonbil fan I just think moonbil is the better Ship sense it was the best possible way for it to go. I’m more neutral on the shipping if it was just to more executed better. (Hope I explain this better)
@@rowan3234 ohh ok I just reread your comment I get it
Winter has very well worked it out
would make for an interesting and healthy ship
fav in the series
YOoooooo I love Wof this is by far one of the best channels of it! LOVE IT ❤❤❤
A+! Orchid/Mangrove shippers rise up!! 🎉
Yessir!!! Happy that a great, underrated background ship earned its respect.
Yesssssssssssss
I was jumping around my room when you put glory and deathbringer at A+. I mean, above Qibli and moon??? WOW! Did I mention Glorybringer is my homescreen? Thank so much for posting JMA!
I didn't put them there - the viewers did :D
If Glorybringer isn’t close to the top, Imma be mad.
Edit: I can live with that.
Love your videos❤❤❤ I’ve been subbed sense I figured out your channel existed. You should do a face reveal at 75k subscribers! Also I think personally that Moonbli deserves S++
So glad Glorybringer got rated so high! I absolutely ADORE that ship!
Yes, but that ship is kinda problematic, considering the age gap…
I wanted to punch Deathbringer in book 3 and only realised they were meant to be shipped after it was brought up later.
@@yumikokamiyama8877 Here's something to consider: It was a typo, so therefore no one cares about your opinion.
@@trilobite3120 I loved Deathbringer from the moment he spared Glory's life.
@@yumikokamiyama8877 The gap was a typo.
I couldn't vote on the previous poll cause i stillwasn't done reading the books...
but now that i'm done with the main 15 (what an adventure...) i can participate on the character Poll :D
(P.s.: may be biased, but Sunny is S+ Tier)
I’m one of 2,000 people!
I really hope you reach 50k soon. Amazing WoF content.
Great job on the video, JMA! Love it also MOONBLI HAS TO BE S TIER WHAT MANIACS DIDNT RATE IT 10?!
Me cause qinter>every other ship ever
My guess is that some people really didn’t want them to get the top score due to ship rivalries so they gave it a zero in hopes of achieving that.
@@TrickyTalon23 lmao as a qinter shipper I gave it a 5 idc that it gets in the way of my ship it's just boring
@@honestlyali27 bru qinter isnt even canon they’re best friends and nothing more
I rate the ship an A- because while I do enjoy their chemistry, I don't really like the way Tui handled the love triangle; it felt somewhat rushed and sloppy towards the end, and dispite Tui trying to make Winter work it was pretty obvious from the start who her preferred couple was.
that look on my face when there are two bullfrogs and you didn't specify
Listener X Clearsight? 😭 Nah, just kidding. I think I'm the only one who likes that ship in the entire fandom...😅
Ypur not tho only one XD i was sorta hoping listner would go with clearsight so there would be clearener
Th
1:58 It makes sense because the Rainwings don't care much if someone goes missing or something happens to others as shown in the 3rd book, but Mangrove still remembered Orchid and insisted on going looking for her
sundew x willow in s tier made me so happy they had so much development in book 13 and such a great backstory tthat it made me shed a tear.
I am a fan of Dragonslayer through and through, but the one thing I kind of feel mixed about is the ships. I don't mind Wrendauntable and Leaf X Ivy, but I wished they had better introductions. For Leaf and Ivy, I think they should've remained friends until the end of a potential Arc 4 where they confess. That way, they have time to develop a fine relationship. However, this is ONE ship I think beats Dragonslayer's ships and that is Rowan x Grove. To me, they were the Orchid and Mangrove of Dragonslayer. Despite having little screentime, the fact that Rowan was willing to infiltrate Scarlet's crib as means of saving his life and was the first to make him feel at home in Talisman honestly makes me sad that they're not noticed more.
I don't mind Wrendauntable being a thing, but I don't want it to be forced. Undauntable and Wren still have room to grow, considering they are both still young and each has issues they need to work on. Leaf and Ivy, I do like but it felt automatic and I wished they have a relationship similar to Glory and Deathbringer; One plays the role of bodyguard, the other Scholar, and helps assist the other journey of finding Sunny.
And finally, I am a proud shipper of Sky and Sunny. Tui, LET SKY COOK!!! LET HIM COOK!!!
JMA YOU FORGOT THE GREATEST SHIP EVER WHIRLPOOL x HIMSELF 10/10 SHIP
Whirlpool x electric eel 100/10
ope
@@kalebjacobs7505 fax 🔥
@@kalebjacobs7505 There is electricity in the water when these two are together:)
i feel like everyone forgot that secretkeeper were morrowseers mates and had moonwatcher AND NO SMOLDER AND THORN ARE THE PERFECT WOF COUPLE Btw i think you should have added listener and thoughtful & Darkstalker and Clearsight
The worst thing about shipping characters in fandoms: People will NOT allow friends of the same gender to be friends. It is irritating as heck-!
Let them be friends instead of pulling through your fantasy of lgbtq ships! People of the same gender can be friends. Remember this- like please-
People can ship whatever the hell they want so long as it’s not problematic, it’s also literally Pride Month right now so it’s kind of our moment don’t you think?
@@kaliido_scope thank you kal. It is so so annoying to see cishets comment that it is shoving it in our faces yet all of the Canon ships are just cishets.
@@deborahmouzouris4113 Exactly, plus this comment is just silly. WoF has so many canon pairings that are very heteronormative and don’t get a lot of development before the relationship starts, it conditioned me as a 7 year old to always suspect romance between a male and a female character if they were shown to be friends. I remember thinking that Turtle was going to be part of the love triangle just because he was nice to Moon. With all of the romance in WoF abound, why would you blame people for shipping characters that otherwise are either friends or don’t interact much at all? Singling out lgbtq pairings just feels wrong.
Ok so you better not ship straight ships that arent canon then, because in your words they are just friends. But i bet you would ship non canon straight couples (nothing wrong with it. I have some to, but if you ship them but say its wrong to ship non-canon lgbtq+ characters then why?)
Moon and winter was like the best one together.That shows me
Unpopular opinion: Kinkajou is aggravating