The strange world of Lotus sales

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  • Ed sold a lot of cars but some of the strangest deals involved Lotuses. They are brilliant sports cars to drive and potentially great investments but nothing is easy when it comes to selling a Lotus.
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  • @TheBrokenLife
    @TheBrokenLife 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3711

    Ed needs to offer a service where for $10 he will place a 5 minute call to people who have wronged you in some way and tell them how dishonorable and untrustworthy they are.

    • @happyfelthappy
      @happyfelthappy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Ed should create a fiver account. Lol

    • @j.franklin4999
      @j.franklin4999 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Maybe he could throw "shrewd negotiator" in there somehow as well... ;)

    • @TheBrokenLife
      @TheBrokenLife 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Holy crap... This comment grew some legs. How about a 20% kickback on the idea, Ed? I'm starting at "shrewd". ;)

    • @USN1985dos
      @USN1985dos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I would be getting a lot of calls from Ed.

    • @Salty_reviews
      @Salty_reviews 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm going to need at least an hour of his time.

  • @speedmayhavebeenafactor9736
    @speedmayhavebeenafactor9736 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2295

    “And caught the thing on fire in front of the customer”. Ahhhh yes, this will be a good episode.

    • @EdBolian
      @EdBolian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      That was a crazy day for sure.

    • @GreenJeep1998
      @GreenJeep1998 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yup, my thoughts exactly.

    • @1blisslife
      @1blisslife 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      SpeedMayHaveBeenAFactor Not to mention the red negative battery terminal... I wonder how many people killed their battery/car with that alone.

    • @EricGaoGao
      @EricGaoGao 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SpeedMayHaveBeenAFactor yas

    • @althejazzman
      @althejazzman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Vauxhall's both have brown negative and black positive. Confused me a few times but yet to blow it up!

  • @ryanpatterson9526
    @ryanpatterson9526 5 ปีที่แล้ว +506

    I spent 22 years in exotic car sales. Every time I hear an Ed car sales story, my left eye starts to twitch uncontrollably. Presumably triggering some auto industry PTSD.

    • @Peanutdenver
      @Peanutdenver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The industry of car salesmen is a narrow hallway filled with snakes, pimps and thieves.

    • @Peanutdenver
      @Peanutdenver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@racetracknerd9484 Obviously, but I'll tell you this much. I have a friend who is SM for and Exotic Car dealership and has worked in this niche industry for 10 years. He says some of them are some of them are not. I can tell you my Porsche dealership is/has always been fantastic. All Porsche dealerships I've had to deal with have always treated me extremley well. Now used Exoctic Car Dealerships is what I was mainly addressing, not your local Ferrari, Aston Martin or McLaren dealership....though I've been told they do exist.

    • @sirforest9453
      @sirforest9453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Peanutdenver i am a porter at a used luxury dealership, my god do they do shady things, selling upbadged cars, lying about damage, hell we just sold a corvette with a bent and snapping frame and didnt disclose that to the customer, literally every car is a lemon, i dont really get too good money, so im starting my detailing business soon to follow my passion of cars and to also be able to own a cool car myself

    • @Peanutdenver
      @Peanutdenver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sirforest9453 I believe it and good on you for starting your own detailing business. It's more difficult becoming wealthy working for someone other than yourself and you'll be happier being your own boss. You'll also be armed with your experience from this dealership. You'll know ins and outs of multiple performance manufactures, plus you can warn your future customers if they're looking for a used exotic, don't go to your former employer. Good Luck.

    • @actionfaction2558
      @actionfaction2558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha

  • @koolskater30
    @koolskater30 6 ปีที่แล้ว +693

    "As our boy Doug would say they were full of a lot of quirks and not that many features." This is why Ed is the best

    • @jahimuddin7380
      @jahimuddin7380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Thisss is a Lotus Evora, and I will show you how it can catch on fire in front of the customer, but first head over to Autotrader where I have compiled a list of the cheapest Lotus Evora's in the country.

  • @813Productions
    @813Productions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +667

    That last guy thought he was a shrewd negotiator, but little did he know, he was dealing with the most shrewd negotiator in the world lmao!

    • @josephcorrente8484
      @josephcorrente8484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My thoughts exactly. He got "out-shrewded".

    • @jfan4reva
      @jfan4reva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think Ed just achieved demi-god status among car sales people. ("Holy crap! He did what?")

  • @UnDeaDDubSt3P99
    @UnDeaDDubSt3P99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1793

    Cant get enough Ed stories

    • @caelencarstensen7274
      @caelencarstensen7274 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      buy his book it has sooooo many in it

    • @100fastkid100
      @100fastkid100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caelen Carstensen what's the name of the book?

    • @caelencarstensen7274
      @caelencarstensen7274 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "For the Record, 28:50 " its on amazon

    • @avxry7001
      @avxry7001 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      420 likes lol

    • @Mountain_Yeti
      @Mountain_Yeti 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adam Stefano dude, seriously. This guy has delivery and presence with his stories, on top of the most welcoming charisma.

  • @ThatOneGuy-vj3jt
    @ThatOneGuy-vj3jt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    “Yup, absolutely, trickled down formula one technology, that’s what I’m looking for” LMAOOO

    • @jfan4reva
      @jfan4reva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yep, trickle down Corolla technology (somebody somewhere sometime raced a Corolla) which, ironically, is probably the most reliable tech they could have put in the engine compartment of an English car.

    • @jcelliott7377
      @jcelliott7377 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Google top 10 innovations in F1 and Lotus will own half of them. By far more than any other manufacturer.
      Granted you could buy a chevy cobalt with a spoiler and say it has trickle down F1 technology 😂

  • @YACFEGGMT
    @YACFEGGMT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    Land Rover Defenderitis 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @serum108
      @serum108 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      EG1 Del sol and CF8 Accord i

  • @chowtownfoodreviews6679
    @chowtownfoodreviews6679 6 ปีที่แล้ว +549

    My wife lost her phone I told her i was going to look in the garage for it.... Or watch this video lol

    • @nathanplunkett1633
      @nathanplunkett1633 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did it help?

    • @Modollas
      @Modollas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you find it ?

    • @KBA6
      @KBA6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolute Chad.

    • @jtyree0226
      @jtyree0226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sad to say guys, but Aaron has passed away.

    • @wattplays5317
      @wattplays5317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jtyree0226 what??

  • @stanrosas2507
    @stanrosas2507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I worked at a local lotus dealer back in 2014 , the Evoras had constant electrical issues and would always have a dead battery requiring you to jump the car. I made the same mistake ed made with the red wire and fried the ecu on a new Evora . Man this brought back memories lol

  • @executiverobbery
    @executiverobbery 6 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    "The Evora was the car they bought because they didn't know they made Caymans". Oh that gave a me good laugh.

    • @lewbarrett
      @lewbarrett 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      except it's not remotely true.

    • @talk2thoran
      @talk2thoran 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Scott Cooper Hmm...

  • @nosirrahx
    @nosirrahx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I just bought a manual Evora 400, things got a lot better since the original Evora.

    • @glennbaptiste7973
      @glennbaptiste7973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just posted a comment asking about that. Are you having good luck with the car? I was thinking to toyota engine would be a huge plus.

    • @ahomicidaltaco
      @ahomicidaltaco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@glennbaptiste7973 2GR-FE is a great engine

  • @dons1932
    @dons1932 6 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    As a former 07 Exige S owner, this is one of your best vids, Ed. Because everything is so spot on.
    First of all, these cars are insane. They are as near a race car as you can get for the street, bar none. Aluminium tub, full mechanical steering, semi slicks - mine had more boost, more fuel and was even more stripped, so around 880kgs and 300hp - absolutely brutally quick car to drive. Brutal. People would always be so shocked at how violently they can do everything - accelerate and turn (Porka's brake harder, I feel). With solid engine mounts, felt like sitting in a single seater formula car every time you kicked the throttle. Genuine big go-kart for the street. And every flick of dust on the chassis tub can be heard and felt.
    And that's exactly what people want. The newer Loti, have lost a lot of that. They're heavier, and more refined. They won't be making Loti like they used to, for the foreseeable future. When people claim 'oh my 430 or 650 or power-steered, electronic diffed, TC, ABS car is like a go-kart, they can go pull the other one. THIS is what a big go-kart actually is.
    However, all of those talking points on the car, quickly become talking points OUT of the car. And by that time, they are a bloody hard car to sell. I had mine listed for 7 months. Because you have to sell it as a race car, essentially, albeit among ACTUAL race cars (so it's not quite there), and proper street cars (not quite that either). It's too much of one, but not enough of the other. This is where the 911 just gets it so right. And those who want it WANT the raw weekend race experience. Owning this car, was the defining tip over point to me, to say "never again". No track cars on the street. You either have a race car, which you can tow to the track etc, or a street car. No cross-over point. It just got too much. Too loud, too low, too hot, too rough, too hard to enter and exit, too many sore backs, too many refusals from women to get in, too impractical, too... much of a race car for the road. I always used to wonder why anyone would buy a Cayman (non GT4) over the Exige, and from that point I realised why. You can easily get a more capable street/track car, that IS ACTUALLY refined enough to drive on the street. And that's where the Porka's shine. So that's one point. If you can go as fast as the Lotus - in something like a Porsche Cayman with leather trim, and all the electric mod cons, but a little less raw-ness and a little more weight, believe me, no matter how long it takes you to realise it, you will eventually prefer to do that - on a STREET car this is.
    Next point - they are incredibly, shoddily, Englishly built. I had a wiring fire in mine, I had the battery failure (replaced with a cool Chimera carbon fibre one, about the size of a Cheeseburger and just as light as one), I had the off-gassing plastic dash, I had the creaks, the leaky windows, the bad electrics, the shitty Euro AC that feels like a 90 year old smoker with emphysema blowing through the dash vents, the stripped threads on cheap bolts and misalinged body bits. These are a true, hand-built style kit car. No two are alike. QC might as well be non existent. But all part of the charm, right? Genuinely. For the driving experience you can look past all that as nothing comes close.
    Lastly - the owners. I've been around Porsche crowds (true family), I've been around Ferrari crowds (friendly baller ego-maniacs), I've been around Lambo crowds (hip baller less ego maniac) and by far, the Lotus crowd, has been the oddest, snootiest, rich-boy-snotty-kid-syndrome-superiority-complex crowd I've ever experienced. I could never understand why. I think it has something to do with the accessibility to that type of a techy / exotic car, for that LESS of a budget, that just attracts a really odd type of person. Granted I met some great people, but also some real knobs. Your story of the potential buyer solidifies that exact attitude. A Lambo guy would just pay the asking price because they want the car, a Ferrari guy would be willing to pay more for it because they want the car, and the Lotus guy would pull that kind of shit wanting to pay less, regardless of whether he had the money or not, just because he thought he could. It's weird.
    My tip to anyone wanting to buy... go black. By far the best colour. Batman, mini McLaren-esque. There are times I sorely regret selling mine. You need a Lotus on your 'have owned' list as much as a 911. I've never had more thumbs up on the street in any car than cruising a Starlight Black Exige S.

    • @roycesmart8019
      @roycesmart8019 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don S or just buy a miata chuck some coils decent tires a cold air intake and an exaust have fun in that and then buy a 01 carrera s cheap quick nice interior

    • @icecube172
      @icecube172 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nice write up. I owe a super 7 , hopefully no electrical issues

    • @dons1932
      @dons1932 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Always be a Miata though. At least the Lotus has that exotic "what-even-is-that-sorcery" kind of look.
      But Miata is definitely more practical. As Ed was alluding to, people don't realise just how unpractical the Lotus is. They (at least think at first) they want that whole raw to the core experience, but it gets old quick. Even a more exotic car - like a Gallardo or Fezza - is more practical IMO.

    • @ecfilms9113
      @ecfilms9113 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please please, I want one.

    • @bananasstuff3344
      @bananasstuff3344 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I could argue that a caterham is more Go kart for the road but I won't

  • @rickydee9761
    @rickydee9761 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1826

    The car sales job would be great if you didn't have to interact with other humans

    • @VINwiki
      @VINwiki  6 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      Great for sure, but perhaps a bit less entertaining to reflect back on.

    • @mattslawncare5651
      @mattslawncare5651 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Haha sell on ebay rickydee!

    • @zxErik
      @zxErik 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I disagree, because if it did, we wouldn't be here watching my man Ed and his awesome stories

    • @buckhorncortez
      @buckhorncortez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's true of all retail sales. Great job if you don't have to deal with customers.

    • @rickydee9761
      @rickydee9761 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Erik Gonzalez you have a very good point sir!

  • @ia6619
    @ia6619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    The way he sold the lotus using reverse psychology though lol

    • @LexTNeville
      @LexTNeville 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      'ye ye ye, shut up salesperson. I want the car.'

    • @davidkless9131
      @davidkless9131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep it’s like the customer sells themself the car !

  • @MrNomadic76
    @MrNomadic76 6 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    "You don't want to buy this".
    "SOLD!"

  • @UXXV
    @UXXV 6 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    Lotus microphone used

  • @GrahamStephan
    @GrahamStephan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +672

    Lotus owners are definitely a thrifty bunch ;)

    • @thekidvlad
      @thekidvlad 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Graham Stephan, you are the person who got me into lotus, and i find you here.

    • @Brascofarian
      @Brascofarian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I guess thrifty is subjective, and maybe Lotus clubs vary country to country. They certainly aren't cheap cars to maintain.

    • @PartikleVT
      @PartikleVT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ^also applies to cars in general

    • @kalypso4133
      @kalypso4133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lotus is one of my favorite brands of cars. They are unique and drive well. I actually want a Lotus Elise 05-06 as my dream car.

    • @jahimuddin7380
      @jahimuddin7380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Never thought I would see Graham here.

  • @theorganizedgarage1080
    @theorganizedgarage1080 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    "They fancy themselves as the shrewdest of negotiators" - Classic Ed!

  • @jingtianwang9793
    @jingtianwang9793 6 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    My dream car is a Lotus Elise, and I’m exactly like to customers he was describing. I don’t care about excessive amount of features. In fact I think lotus’s stripped out interior is still much too weight ! I love this crazy brand.

    • @2cars10
      @2cars10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Jingtian Wang I can hardly understand u

    • @ceke
      @ceke 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "wight"

    • @TimmyDfromtheD
      @TimmyDfromtheD 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      He loves that car more than the English language

    • @Reman1975
      @Reman1975 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Ah, give 'um a break. Not everyone has English as their first language, And at least they tried....... I've seen worse from some supposedly native English speakers ! :)

    • @kabob21
      @kabob21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If you ever buy one, get it with a hard top. The soft top leaks even from a stiff breeze, much less a drop of rain. There's also no insulation in an aluminum box so in the summer it turns into an oven and in the winter, a refrigerator. Better yet, get an Exige, just a better car.

  • @MrSmithees
    @MrSmithees 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Love the ending! People who do that think they're so smart, trying to "outplay" the the dealers. From my binge watching of VINWiki, the lesson I learned not just from Ed, but all the other guys as well, is that it never hurts to put a little bit of faith with your guy at the dealership. Not everyone's as good as Ed, but if there's someone who can help you with getting you your car, it's them.
    And yes, I would definitely buy a car from Ed whatever it is. He makes purchasing expensive cars look really achievable and that's saying a lot since I'm in a 3rd world country.

  • @farhanpramadipta1858
    @farhanpramadipta1858 6 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    finally! i have waited a long time for ed to say "shrewd negotiator"

    • @kasper5688
      @kasper5688 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Farhan Pramadipta 6:56

  • @Hope4NewDay1
    @Hope4NewDay1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yeah I think Ed is my favorite story teller on here. He does such a good job at painting a mental image and progressing through his stories.

  • @stripyscarfs
    @stripyscarfs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    "Add lightness" that's an interesting way to say reduce weight 😂

    • @VINwiki
      @VINwiki  6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Popular vernacular among Lotus owners

    • @stripyscarfs
      @stripyscarfs 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      VINwiki Ah nice one! Never heard that one before, the more you know

    • @alancsalt
      @alancsalt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lotus founder Colin Chapman's most famous quote: "simplify, then add lightness."

    • @mohammadsaiful58
      @mohammadsaiful58 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VINwiki klpo

    • @mohammadsaiful58
      @mohammadsaiful58 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VINwiki klpo

  • @Drsivric
    @Drsivric 6 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    "Unsurprisingly He didn't make any of his payments"

    • @8PMFORMULA
      @8PMFORMULA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah. He was a right winger and yet be was obviously frequenting massage parlors. Family values? He also never made a single payment on his loan. Typical right wing hypocrite.

    • @sasig5215
      @sasig5215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@8PMFORMULA way to generalize an entire political leaning on one person

    • @ThePikmin18
      @ThePikmin18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      8PMFORMULA typical liberal, generalizing a population he disagrees with. Nice work, bigot.

    • @BigRedtheGinger
      @BigRedtheGinger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ThePikmin18 oh the irony

    • @jahimuddin7380
      @jahimuddin7380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah yes, generalizing. Who does not love some generalizing in political matters.

  • @ClapOnNova
    @ClapOnNova 6 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    Ah a lotus, built in a shed in Norfolk by a man with a pipe

    • @Connor-pb5lo
      @Connor-pb5lo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mr.Woggle my home town! :)

    • @AutoSugar
      @AutoSugar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol

    • @andrewmurphy5310
      @andrewmurphy5310 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Norfolk isn't a town you absolute spoon.

    • @Connor-pb5lo
      @Connor-pb5lo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Andrew Murphy I know lol, it’s county but I often drive past the factory and have been inside for a tour of it too. It’s just been taken over by another company hasn’t it?

    • @jackjarvis5451
      @jackjarvis5451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Connor Spooner yeah I'm 90% sure it was brought bye a Chinese man my step dad works there and brings them home most week ends and they are rather shite

  • @PioneerPauly
    @PioneerPauly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I love that talk about selling with the negitives. Sounds just like me being compulsive and stubborn. Thanks for sharing 😁

  • @clintgliford9941
    @clintgliford9941 6 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    I laughed pretty hard at Land Rover Defender-itis. A disease we all wish our cars would catch.

    • @dons1932
      @dons1932 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL perfect word, huh.

    • @roycesmart8019
      @roycesmart8019 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clint Gliford bought one for 8 is worth 20

    • @gorkyd7912
      @gorkyd7912 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      In 30 years, if your 2001 Honda CRV you got for $4000 is still running it will be worth $80,000.

    • @christopherrahman1358
      @christopherrahman1358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gorkyd7912 only if its stock. Even the running ones have mostly gone through the NFS underground treatment and are ruined for future gains.

  • @buntron163
    @buntron163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I worked on the prototype Evora during my tool making apprenticeship. Trust me, the whole car was made as cheap as it legally could be. The die tools were made in China and never worked but we had to struggle on. The excuse we got from Lotus was, "We're going to make less than 2,000 cars, so do what you have to do to get the parts".

  • @speedmayhavebeenafactor9736
    @speedmayhavebeenafactor9736 6 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    “They fancy themselves the shrewdest of negotiators”

    • @aethelsteadtheunsteady450
      @aethelsteadtheunsteady450 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Black Conservative Patriot Man Man, how in the fuck do you have 12k subscribers and only 2 videos?

    • @decidiousrex
      @decidiousrex 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Oh gross you're one of them. Good job TH-cam, for once

    • @AnarchistMetalhead
      @AnarchistMetalhead 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      bitchute won"t censor you

    • @user-pe5vz5qw8e
      @user-pe5vz5qw8e 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      decidiousrex why is it a good thing?

  • @R955
    @R955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    how in the hell does someone walk away from a 30k downpayment and make zero payments?? Holy crap!

    • @troodon1096
      @troodon1096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I guess to him it was just a very expensive rental.

    • @parkergray4834
      @parkergray4834 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carson D i’m curious too

    • @NickKautz
      @NickKautz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was insane , remember? He thought the secret service was chasing him because he tried to attend a protest. And who would take a yellow Lotus somewhere if they thought they were at risk of being spotted by the secret service. And if he was making all that up , only a crazy person would come up with a such a bizarre lie.

  • @chfire2004
    @chfire2004 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a friend who is a retired neuro surgeon, he used to have a white espirt turbo until one day he was driving it, then heard a loud pop. He got out of the car and watched it burn to the ground on the side of the road.
    He then went on a journey to get an Elise and every time he was about to buy a car from private sellers they would wreck it a day before he bought it.
    When he finally got one he had it for a few months and the motor blew die to some oil line defect. So he got a new engine puthat into it covered under the warranty.
    Once that was fixed, the car was totalled out due to a teenager texting and plowing a jeep into the rear end at a stop light. He said he got out of the car and called the kid a "stupid f!#/".
    It was pretty sad to hear all of this, the guy is a pretty quirky fellow, but one of the most down to earth people I've ever met. He never replaced the elise. But he does have a locost he's building and 2 Europas that he is always tinkering with. He also has a 3sgte rav4 that I've heard is interesting.

  • @FreedomForce100
    @FreedomForce100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ed has to be one of my favorite car story teller. The guy is just fascinating to listen to.

  • @loganfoster9194
    @loganfoster9194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ive allways loved the look of the cars lotus puts out i just wish they werent so minimalist on the interior

  • @recodeofficial4820
    @recodeofficial4820 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    your stories and the way you tell them are great ED ive watched them all , i hope theirs more to come keep it up

  • @Edward_Plantagenet
    @Edward_Plantagenet 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    We brits have a saying about Lotuses it goes “Loads Of Trouble Usually Serious”

    • @Kevs442
      @Kevs442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That seems to be all British cars, Jaguar, Land Rover, Range Rover, Lotus...unreliability is the common thread.

    • @stephengamble9388
      @stephengamble9388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      From experience Elise S1 and S2 cheaper to run/own than BMW, Alpha, Audi etc.

  • @JayEmmOnCars
    @JayEmmOnCars 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    You should definitely try a later model Evora S, dramatically different cars in both performance and build quality

    • @EdBolian
      @EdBolian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That is correct. Not immune to issues but certainly improved.

    • @cgoins1993
      @cgoins1993 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ed Bolian does the S have the same issue with water leaking and bowing dashboard

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cody Goins Post 2012 cars fixed a lot of these issues

    • @cgoins1993
      @cgoins1993 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      JayEmm on Cars thanks for letting me know. I read a forum earlier though about someone with a 2015 Evora that had water leaking into the floorboard. I'm not looking at getting one for another few years though so hopefully I can get ahold of one of the better made ones

    • @OGCinemaATL
      @OGCinemaATL 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the Evora 400?

  • @craigyates1664
    @craigyates1664 6 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Last time i was this early, the bank still wouldn't pay out $31,000

  • @njshift
    @njshift 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Sometimes shrewd negotiation cannot overcome logic hurdles.

  • @Skydrag.V60
    @Skydrag.V60 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He speaks the truth. Up until recently I worked in Lotus sales and it was the exact same story.
    It’s that Lotus charm that you learn to love.

  • @SpacemanSam13
    @SpacemanSam13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I could listen to Ed narrate a 2 hour long video of paint drying. That dude is such a damn good story teller.

  • @AppleTheCake
    @AppleTheCake 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ed's storytelling abilities (and stories) are the best!

  • @mikenormandy9250
    @mikenormandy9250 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New to the channel, Love the Car Stories. If you guys haven't already you should do an interview with a auto claims rep from an insurance company (preferably one of the bigger ones, GEICO, State Farm, Allstate, etc.) I have worked in Claims for GEICO for over 3 years, at one time, and I have some CRAZY stories I have heard from people and how there vehicle was damaged/stolen/f*d up. Keep up the great work Vin!

  • @whal8y
    @whal8y 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The stories are interesting, I must admit. But buying a sports car or anything a little bit out of the ordinary is also interesting in and of itself. Nearly bought a used 911 C4S 997.1 a few years back. Went as far as go pick up the car the next day and the attitude of the salesperson in trying to negotiate payment dissuaded me so much that I stopped within hours of pick up and signing. Fast forward, purchased and M5 and now have an M6, I am going to move to a Porsche as the next car but I will not go back to that dealership (another incident occurred because a salesman thought I looked too young).

  • @196hasnain
    @196hasnain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seen the title, "ooh this looks interesting" click on it, seen ed "YASSSS this is gonna be lit" Ed never tells a bad story

  • @RockerTopper-hh3ru
    @RockerTopper-hh3ru 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ed, please dear God never change! Love to hear your hilarious stories!!

  • @Shidoshi578
    @Shidoshi578 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sold Lotus cars here in Austin for years, loved every minute of it. Damn I miss those days.

  • @flighthelmet
    @flighthelmet 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love my Lotus Exige S240. Ed is right, what I love about it is that it lacks creature comforts

  • @uuhamm
    @uuhamm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love hearing Ed's stories. He's definitely my favorite vinwiki host.

  • @joegaskill8742
    @joegaskill8742 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ed's stories are always the best,,PERIOD!!

  • @jaldeborgh
    @jaldeborgh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a guy that purchased a 2017 Evora 400 more than a year ago, it’s my warm weather daily driver, all I can say is, it’s been great. I’ve had exactly one minor build issue, an ambient temperature sensor that wasn’t connected by the factory, and should have been caught during the dealer prep. The only component failure I’ve had is one of the TPMS senders, in the left front tire. That’s it, the full list of faults. At the same time it’s best sounding V6 I’ve ever heard, it’s nothing short of brilliant to drive and I get more positive comments on the car than anything I’ve ever owned. People are simply fascinated by the car because they’ve never seen one. It’s one of those rare cars where driving it always feels special.
    I also am very familiar with the Lotus brand, my father owned and campaigned a mark 11 in the 1950’s, owned a couple of Elan’s in the early 1970’s. In fact a lotus was literally the first car I drove after passing my drivers license road test, in 1972. People enjoy the brand for what it is, not what it isn’t.
    On a different subject and as a veteran high dollar industrial capital equipment sales executive, I really feel you’d be happier doing something other than sales, no customer facing job is easy but when you sit around and malign your customers and the products you’re selling, I can only conclude your in the wrong job.

  • @citiesofthedead8653
    @citiesofthedead8653 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a Lotus fan, something carried over from my childhood (thank you James Bond) - but I would agree, you hit the nail on the head - it's a weird following involving unique individuals. But that describes me so I am keeping good company.

  • @mhymyk4022
    @mhymyk4022 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to work with Ed, although unfortunately the only way I could ever afford those exotic cars would be a 6 number change in my life

  • @mikecronis
    @mikecronis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I owned a 2006 Elise Touring as my daily in Colorado. Handles .. interestingly in the snow. Mid-Engine and all... NEVER lift-off that accelerator, friends.
    I went through 4 instrument clusters. It'd wrap right around and get stuck, that tach. There was a reset-tach option that the Lotus team knew about, involving several button pressings and start-up routine. Read it in the manual. Worked most of the time. They called it the Ghost of Brian Chapman. Loved/hated it. That Blaupunkt radio was pointless. Changed that out, and those 4-watt speakers. I grudgingly added a tiny subwoofer and it was really a good daily, one wiper-blade and all.
    Most rare color for me? Moonstone. I can NEVER seem to find THAT color! In 2010 there was (gasp) cruise-control!

  • @drivemyexotic5274
    @drivemyexotic5274 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Ed. Lotus has always seemed to me like a quirky car that would be a blast to drive. But when you compared prices and maintenance to other manufacturers, I feel there are just so many other more attractive options. Really appreciate this insight! It has saved me some time in my own search! :0)

  • @aerykhurley8236
    @aerykhurley8236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing better than a smooth educated speaker. Kudos Mr Ed!

  • @Jademyheart
    @Jademyheart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This Guy is Great.
    I bet it would be great working with this guy, such opportunities......
    Thanks Ed. 👌

  • @Prophetsee
    @Prophetsee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “He was a shurd negotiator”
    The line i wait for in every video.
    Anyone else ?

  • @garythompson2517
    @garythompson2517 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting life stories with cars, Ed. Watched a dozen or so. The worse car times of mine is when I walk into a car dealer for a new purchase. I have met some good people and some not so good. But I have never had a good and comfortable sitting with a financial agent. It seems you have a way with people and a personable demeanor. That's rare with salesmen. And if you pay cash it would be a bit easier I imagine. I thought I did a good job a couple years ago with my 2017 WRX Limited. When all was said and done, it never fails. I noticed a $200.00 charge for 2 year insurance for window etching for stolen vehicles. I was told this is mandatory. Insane policy.

  • @RustyGolfer
    @RustyGolfer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my first jobs in the 90s, was next door to an lotus specialist repair shop, the mechanics and our shop would take breaks together every now and again, apart from been around these great vehicles, the mechs would poke fun at them when stumped, saying LOTUS stood for "lots of trouble usually serious." Still... If I had the "fun" money available I'd have one in a flash.

  • @John1911
    @John1911 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    And today I learned the phrase, “martyrdom complex”.
    Dayum.

  • @DM-dv6kk
    @DM-dv6kk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm pretty damn close to taking my evora dash out to try to fix my rattle by my gauge cluster.

    • @EdBolian
      @EdBolian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let us know how that goes.

    • @DM-dv6kk
      @DM-dv6kk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Didn't have to go that far. One very loose screw made the dash sound terrible. I love this car so much more now that there isn't a terrible rattle(for now)

  • @soggybottomboys2792
    @soggybottomboys2792 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve watched every video you’ve made ever sense I found your channel!

  • @JasonJonesPhotography
    @JasonJonesPhotography 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ed - No matter how you feel about Lotus models, at the dealerships, dealing with the English guys from USA HQ, especially Dave (Ill leave his name at that but Im sure you know who Im talking about) when he made dealership visits, was the best compared to any other brand I worked with.. I left the biz in 2007 for something totally different, but still friends with him to this day. The crew at HQ personally and Lotus as a brand are the ONLY thing I miss about working at a dealership.

  • @Kolefield
    @Kolefield 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, I really miss my Elise, but it just made no sense to have as a DD. Wish I could afford to buy it back. They have appreciated since I sold it too, bummer!

  • @natelecarde962
    @natelecarde962 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is making me not want to buy an Esprit v8 anymore... Thanks for enlightening me on the world of Lotus.

  • @element271
    @element271 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red negative leads are a throwback to the days of lucas positive earth electronics, it all makes perfect sense...

  • @cg2860
    @cg2860 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually have clients who are exactly like the last sales call you are dealing with. It's always best to get rid of those deadbeat clients. There a lot of people out there who think just because they've got a few dollars that are pocket that somebody owes them something. Great video thank you

    • @GhostKing6790
      @GhostKing6790 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s true. However, it works In the same way that they don’t owe anything to the dealers who just happen to have the cars.

  • @clintgliford9941
    @clintgliford9941 6 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Last time I was this early, Doug hadn't picked up the slantnose buyer from the airport yet.

    • @rabbits_used_cars
      @rabbits_used_cars 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ditto lol

    • @LavenderSystem69
      @LavenderSystem69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A Rogue Chihuahua Dude... the "slantnose" part of that refers to the car the customer Doug needed to pick up from the airport was going to buy. There's literally nothing antisemitic about it... and it sounds like seeking out mental help could do you a lot of good. Just saying...

    • @6yjjk
      @6yjjk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CGoody564 If you're going to lash out at someone's misspelling, do try not to misspell the word you're lashing out at them for misspelling.

  • @Fluterra
    @Fluterra 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! Had an Elise and loved it. Don’t think I’ll get an Evora...

  • @thefoss7759
    @thefoss7759 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great story! I can't wait to hear more about that deal! I will stay tuned for sure ;)

  • @user-hj1om6yu4z
    @user-hj1om6yu4z 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God I love this story!! The exige is amazing! I was asked to house sit for a guy for a month. He was offering 1 grand. He forgot to take the keys to his bright ass yellow exige. I spent every penny I made on new tires...worth every cent! They are so responsive

  • @pwrightisright8611
    @pwrightisright8611 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Wow. Time to watch the vales of Exige S 260s skyrocket because Ed said it.

    • @kabob21
      @kabob21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They're already way overpriced as is. There's nowhere really to go higher.

    • @dons1932
      @dons1932 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Exige S is the one you want regardless. The 260 is overpriced considering how little it offers for the price over a regular S, but I'm sure Ed was just hinting that it - being the scarce premium offering - is the one you'd want from an all-round investment / resale / fun / pedigree point of view. Total salesman recommendation! :)

    • @maxshuty
      @maxshuty 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1 for the Exige S, it’s what I have and you can get a tune for $850 and they will be just as fast as the S260...

  • @1183newman
    @1183newman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I owned an Elise as a daily driver for 5 years. It was an early 2002 series 2 elise with the K-series Engine and not the toyota engine. It had no power steering, no traction control, no abs, no electric windows. It did have A/C which when working was terrible. The car rattled and squeaked over bumps. The seating position is fantastic and it always felt like a little Le Mans race car from the 60s. The view of the car out of the windscreen and in the wing mirror was great, it made you feel like you was in a race car. The noise was loud even though the engine was only a 4 cylinder due to no sound proofing and the engine being right behind your head. On short blasts through the country the car is fantastic. However in traffic after about 30mins of idling the car would overheat.
    Overall the car was reliable and cheap to maintain compared to other exotic sports cars. My next car was a cayman s, another great car but in terms of reliability not much between them and in terms of costs the cayman is 2x as expensive to run and maintain. I would own another lotus for sure.

  • @franke990
    @franke990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "It always has something wrong with it"
    My same exact words when I talk about my 02 C230k and 84 Vanagon

  • @curtiscalabrese6718
    @curtiscalabrese6718 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing! I’m in the process of lemon lawing my Lotus Evora 400. It was the one from the TV show, Jay Leno’s Garage. It literally dies on the highway randomly. So it’s been in the shop for months! I wish I had seen this video before I bought it.

    • @VINwiki
      @VINwiki  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let us know how it works out.

  • @rashesthippo
    @rashesthippo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    TIL how to get ants out of a car.

    • @EdBolian
      @EdBolian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tricks of the trade

    • @SlidTossedPissed
      @SlidTossedPissed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always thought it was to BURN THE DAMN THING TO THE GROUND!!!

    • @Wrathlon
      @Wrathlon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This entire VINWiki binge I've been on has been worth it for that information alone.

    • @domnoya4130
      @domnoya4130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel grateful that my Toyota can be full of food and not get any incests appreabtly it’s locked up like Fort Knox. Had no idea this happened to vehicles. I’d still cherish that lotus if I could afford one though despite its problems. Probably would rather just drive a corvette though if I had money and a choice. This is one of those cars I’d never complain for a second if I was given it but at that price you have options like corvette and Porsche.

    • @Wrathlon
      @Wrathlon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@domnoya4130 I figure incests in the car would a bigger issue with Chevy and Ford trucks more than toyotas.

  • @Syphious64
    @Syphious64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man I would absolutely love an Espree too but god the maintenance on them would be crazy..

  • @andyq9669
    @andyq9669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stories, well told. Striking Lotus off my shopping list...

  • @SirDrinksAlot69
    @SirDrinksAlot69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was in the market to buy a Lotus Elise once upon a time, I was a bit slow at getting to it and when I was ready and had all the money together (to buy it in cash) they all went up $20k. Ended up buying a Corvette and holding on to a chunk of cash instead.

    • @GuitarRockerx71
      @GuitarRockerx71 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Toaster Chicken I'd see it as a blessing

    • @Hunne2303
      @Hunne2303 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you insist on going fast in a straight line...then yes

    • @miskatonic6210
      @miskatonic6210 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Somebody wanting a Lotus, then ending up with a Corvette makes me think you just randomly wanted some kind of sporty looking car without having any clue.
      It's like wanting a spoon, then buying a knife.

  • @tororojoh8439
    @tororojoh8439 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I swear I watch Ed stories 5 times each minimum. So interesting

    • @EdBolian
      @EdBolian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is dedication! Thanks.

    • @user-ym4rg6km5n
      @user-ym4rg6km5n 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saul Ramos t

  • @JoseMartinez-kk4uw
    @JoseMartinez-kk4uw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love this channel👌🏽

  • @jacknapier8774
    @jacknapier8774 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy these stories and the vids. Keep it up. I search TH-cam for stuff like this everyday and I like these as well as DonutMedia the best

  • @cubanian385
    @cubanian385 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm a simple man, if the video has Ed Bolian in it, I like it. Another awesome video Ed!!

    • @EdBolian
      @EdBolian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks so much. Crazy to believe I have done 40 of these already.

    • @cubanian385
      @cubanian385 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ed Bolian You're a master at these, I hope to continue seeing you on these videos and keep up the amazing work!

    • @EdBolian
      @EdBolian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I will keep them coming.

  • @FatUncleJoey
    @FatUncleJoey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the stories!

  • @Reman1975
    @Reman1975 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really wanted an Elise as a weekend car a few years back. I got as far as driving to a local second hand car dealer who I'd heard had just taken a nice one part exchange. At 6'1" I knew it would be a bit of a squeeze getting in, But Jesus feckin' H !!!
    The sill is ridiculously high and wide, The seats are very low, And the door opening is short as hell. Entering the car was very reminiscent of trying to get on the super skin tight jeans we all wore in the 80's. :)
    I found the only way I could get in without dislocating limbs was to pop off the canvas roof first, Step in and sort of slid down the seat back as I shuffled my legs down either side of the wheel. Getting out with the roof on was a doddle though. I just needed to roll sideways over the sill and walk my body out on my hands while dragging my legs along behind........ Very dignified. LOL !
    It was around that point that I realized that there was no way I could live with an Elise, So didn't even bother with the test drive........ Though he did also have a very tidy 2.8 Ford Capri special that I eventually went on to buy.
    So, Thanks to desperately wanting an Elise I ended up finding a Capri....... Bloody loved that car, And kept it for 14 years before structural rust and scarcity of replacment panels meant it would have cost several times the cars evenual worth to get it rebuilt !!! If they hadn't gone and got all collectable (ie, stupidly overpriced even for an incomplete rot box "Fixer upper") I'd still contemplate having another one today. :)

  • @thefoss7759
    @thefoss7759 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dang Ed, I could listen to you talk all day! Very interesting. Great video.

  • @your.friend..
    @your.friend.. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice vid keep up the good work :)

  • @your.friend..
    @your.friend.. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And always love ed’s storys :Dd

  • @NorthernChev
    @NorthernChev 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In 1998 I bought a red 1989 Lotus Esprit Turbo with the wing. Fantastic fun. A mechanical nightmare, but fantastic to drive.

  • @dirkwinchester1576
    @dirkwinchester1576 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the esprit. The mid 80's up are gorgeous cars.The 4cyl Turbos when tuned offer good performance. When they went to twin turbo v8's they ran great . Now they do have issues ,but all are fixable rather easy now due to all the aftermarket parts and people who have fixed these issues and the different forums are all easy to find info. My buddy had a late model 4cyl turbo that was virtually a perfect car and he drove it e very day. He did do all maintenance regularly and never ever gave him a problem.

  • @adamlaski9128
    @adamlaski9128 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Elise and Exige are street legal go karts.
    And that’s why I love them.

  • @GarryFullerSr
    @GarryFullerSr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great story teller.

  • @cryptomaniacs5533
    @cryptomaniacs5533 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to sell these too. Everything he said about the Evora is 100% spot on!

  • @cybertroy2
    @cybertroy2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    some people are just gifted at storytelling. subbed.

  • @thefailxtreme
    @thefailxtreme 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    "the shrewdest of negotiators" LOL

    • @Eatongee
      @Eatongee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep! Was waiting for that.

    • @EdBolian
      @EdBolian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sort of had to at this point!

  • @frozencarguy6274
    @frozencarguy6274 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "Add lightness"

    • @oopssee
      @oopssee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/UyZxsZlMS7s/w-d-xo.html

  • @vickmann86
    @vickmann86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid.
    Lotus was never going to have many sales in the US and I think they knew that from the get go. Built for Euro roads and a car manufacturer coming from a small Town in England im guessing had its fill from its racing heritage.

  • @DOZDDMGator
    @DOZDDMGator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your description of lotus customers describe my dad to a T when he was buying his evora, I imagine land rover buyers are similar since he just bought a disco 5 lol

  • @Alex-bz7in
    @Alex-bz7in 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hearing Ed BOLIAN say quirks and features puts Doug out of business. I love watching Doug but it would be amazing to see Ed do a parody of one.