"forza motorsport: more than a scam" followup

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  • @alsosepi
    @alsosepi  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    5:17 just noticed thats the wrong comparison clip
    still, doesnt change anything

  • @rosaria8384
    @rosaria8384 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +278

    I honestly think your "cheating in Forza" video was good to demonstrate how unsuitable Forza is in terms of competitive racing. If they're angry about it, let them be. Don't let it put you down.

    • @hellothere-pf9qu
      @hellothere-pf9qu หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed

    • @Arnelyz
      @Arnelyz 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      faking agree

  • @shiveryweb
    @shiveryweb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    the fact that tokyo xtreme racer has more accurate replays than forza is simply baffling

  • @stevebuscemi3622
    @stevebuscemi3622 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +199

    T10 simps are cringe

    • @michaelvelez6699
      @michaelvelez6699 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Indeed

    • @FranquitoMV2004
      @FranquitoMV2004 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are cringe and stupid

    • @xxneroxxx4996
      @xxneroxxx4996 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Agreed its difficult to argue with a genius but it's impossible to argue with an idiot

    • @MaeveSterling
      @MaeveSterling หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Not even cringe. They are pathetic

    • @noonyabeezniss4911
      @noonyabeezniss4911 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It's T10 AND PGG
      Don't forget they both worked in tandem with each other to "make" this game
      People often forget this game has 2 large teams and a host load of cash from Microsoft to make and they still failed spectacularly

  • @supreme_xenon
    @supreme_xenon หลายเดือนก่อน +136

    Funny that this drama only happen in Forza community, not Gran Turismo, not Assetto Corsa, not Project Cars

    • @e-money9251
      @e-money9251 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      It did happen in gran turismo. GT7 was being lambasted by longtime fans and yet its defenders waged a holy crusade in its name. The difference though is that the war went over rather quickly since not only the game was technically fine on release, most of its criticisms are about its lackluster career mode and race payouts, but also because sony and PD actually care about the series and quite quickly made changes to alleviate many of the concerns

    • @FranquitoMV2004
      @FranquitoMV2004 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Idk why, but most of the time, the Forza community gets very toxic agains other players from different but similar games just to feel superior, i started noticing it a lot since last year, i see a lot people on videos about NFS, The Crew or Gran Turismo, and in most of them i see several people who just came to comment *Forzais better* and then leave, ik they may just do ir ro bait for attention, but anybody pls tell me, is the Forza Community in general THAT braindead? To go amd comment about Forza being better on other videos just to feel superior to everyone else?

    • @WANDRRR
      @WANDRRR หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@FranquitoMV2004 yeah ive seen those comments too lol its so goofy

    • @ZoMTDU
      @ZoMTDU หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@FranquitoMV2004 very braindead

    • @Thot-Slayer-420
      @Thot-Slayer-420 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FranquitoMV2004 "shameful rammers" is one of the biggest videos of the series

  • @morgan3392
    @morgan3392 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I... Didn't realize you paid a guy to do voiceovers.

  • @Seb123
    @Seb123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    All we can hope for is for older forza to come back. As you said a re-release of FM7 would be more appreciated than whatever hot garbage we got.

  • @ic3man
    @ic3man 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    You destroyed that TPR guy. Good for you

  • @ESV_Green
    @ESV_Green 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

    Force one has supposedly quit forza, because everyone had a go at him for his awful racecraft. nobody thought he was cheating, if thats what you were trying to say. he says that 'horizon ruined forza' referring to competitive horizon players entering the motorsport scene, pretty much cope and ego about players coming from a more arcadey platform, and being their pace/beating them

    • @alsosepi
      @alsosepi  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      true 🤣who would have thought skill would transfer among 2 games with 90% the same physics

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Horizon physics being introduced significantly decreased the skill gap on Motorsport - you can't deny this.
      Dan is still one of the best on the game, regardless of what physics are used

    • @ESV_Green
      @ESV_Green 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@Harmonic14 I mean ye if ur talking abt raw pace, not rly a physics thing when u can’t race without hitting ppl

    • @ZoMTDU
      @ZoMTDU หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Massive Skill Issue on his part lol😂

  • @ejune98
    @ejune98 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Leave the cringe game to the cringe community, why bother anymore? Microsoft is already building notoriety for ruining a franchise, devs(some of them) are awful, I see no bright future for this game.

  • @kaedeschulz5422
    @kaedeschulz5422 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Ok. I stick to GT where i don't have to deal with such things.

    • @rosaria8384
      @rosaria8384 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      To be fair, GT has a problem where the community keeps on babbling nostalgia, comparing GT7 to older games, and the complaints, but it's tamer than Forza's BS

    • @kaedeschulz5422
      @kaedeschulz5422 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@rosaria8384 Who doesn't compare games to the older ones?

  • @mandrakeblackstone5838
    @mandrakeblackstone5838 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Cry baby Bowkett and his team are well known for filing faults complaints accusing people of cheating , Bowkett is not even that good I beat him many times and all he dose is cry then accuse me of cheating . The whole team is like that , Back in FM3 we had a team race where we smoked TPR , and all they did was cry because we forced off the baby line and collisions with damage on full , eventually TPR had the Team I was on Banned. I have had #1 track times taking off the leader boards because of Bowkett and his team of cry babies . Bowkett loves his baby line I say If anyone needs to use a racing line they have no business playing a racing sim even if they are just getting started , we never had baby lines in GT1 or GT2

    • @pavvv
      @pavvv หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who are you? Do you realise that he literally won the Logitech competition without any lines and with collisions on? As the competition was stated to have?

    • @mandrakeblackstone5838
      @mandrakeblackstone5838 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pavvv I'm talking about Bowkett not Sepi read my damn message in its entirety. Like how stupid can you be,,, Sepi is a top racer, one of the best , But Bowkett and his team of hacks are 3rd rate at best .

    • @pavvv
      @pavvv หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mandrakeblackstone5838 you must be retarded cuz I was talking about bowkett lmfao

    • @pavvv
      @pavvv หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mandrakeblackstone5838 also not a chance you were anywhere near the top considering you can't keep your car on the track in any of the videos I saw you upload

  • @ZoMTDU
    @ZoMTDU หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Its always crazy seeing drama coming from Forza lol
    *Just me casually playing a nearly 20 yr old game thats better than both games*

    • @KanManiac2505
      @KanManiac2505 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      you're prob playing need for speed from the mid 2000's

    • @lincolndethomasis6602
      @lincolndethomasis6602 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@KanManiac2505 the Project Gotham Racing or Burnout games of the same era also fit the description

    • @Woohoowi1
      @Woohoowi1 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@lincolndethomasis6602stuntman ignition's race mode is way funner then Forza, even having no real cars and not being an actual racing game

  • @kyperactive
    @kyperactive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    To ponder on the YT putting negative comments at the bottom:
    I think its actually the dislikes being used there to determine where it stays. More you have, the lower you go.
    Just a wild hunch though.

    • @DavideDavini
      @DavideDavini หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      But sometimes comments that don’t have anything rude or malicious in it get deleted. In the sense that they disappear right away. It got to be automated. What I’m saying is that they seem to have some kind of machine learning algorithm to flag negative comments. I’m sure it’s used in conjunction with the like and dislike as well. But still, I would be surprised if they don’t use it to push down negative comments.
      Just speculations, of course.

  • @teertaa
    @teertaa หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Meanwhile Grid community dont have any drama because of their minuscule playerbase 😭.
    But yeah forza players and redditors are on whole another level of "im his friend so i must defend him no matter what". This game is so similar with call of duty in terms of community and sometimes real life threats.

    • @mandrakeblackstone5838
      @mandrakeblackstone5838 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So true FM is also filled with cry baby 3rd rate racers who need a baby line to race . Most FM players have suck syndrome which is fitting as its not called Forza MotorSucks for nothing . Back in FM2 it was great no babies but in FM3 Bowkett and TPR started accusing everyone who beat their records of cheating , and crying.

    • @user-ew7vj3hw9m
      @user-ew7vj3hw9m หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ridge Racer fans are emulating/playing the old ones wishing for a new one :(

  • @acrane2
    @acrane2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve played Forza since 2011 with the release of FM4 with my brand new Xbox 360. I’ve never been competitive or played Forza for anything above just fun, but even I have given up on the new game and it’s online multiplayer. It doesn’t take the head manager at Walmart to figure out how bad the game and its structure is, but actually finding out about the circle jerk at the top of T10’s development tree as well as Microsoft canning people 18 months into their job to avoid paying for benefits is sickening and for the first time in 13 years as a die hard Xbox player… I kind of want a PlayStation with GT7…

  • @deathtrooper2048
    @deathtrooper2048 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:00 On an elite controller you can still limit how high it goes without trigger locks on both the elite 1 and 2 and without affecting the travel distance of the triggers in the elite controller app on Xbox and PC. So you can get rid of the risk of locking up the brakes and have the same travel distance as with 100% triggers.

  • @Kenpai_TDG
    @Kenpai_TDG หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    YOU HAVE A SECOND CHANNEL?!?!

  • @Vin80_
    @Vin80_ หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Damn and I thought NFS had it bad.

  • @initiald975
    @initiald975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    7:05 - and that's why he thinks it's hax, although it's actually his skill issue. Same thing can be seen in MR:T, between my crappy times and AJ Ibarra gaming's setups. I had skill issue and claimed the lap wasn't possible with the current suspension setup, until it got to the point where people stated to say that suspension setup is up to the driver and there is no definite setup for a "fast" lap. Skill issue is a real thing too lol, and that other guy thinking he has reached "the peak of driving skill" is the mistake here.

    • @serge4192
      @serge4192 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ayyy MR:T person here

    • @initiald975
      @initiald975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@serge4192 although I play less often after carlton supremacy ended, and inflation occurred with t4 cars and their upgrades being outrageously expensive. Also I suck at turning and I wish there was a mathematical coding approach.

    • @FMV313_Mike
      @FMV313_Mike 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@initiald975 i somehow made a non 22B tier 3 subaru be able to outrun a tier 4 NSX, but i agree on the inflation, not only tier 4, but all the cars are stupidly expensive and the upgrades are the same, meanwhile they made races pay less aswell as not posting new codes in forever, its like they are doing it on purpose to force you to spend time grinding, thats the major reason why i left both MR:T and PT, they got turned into grinding games

    • @initiald975
      @initiald975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FMV313_Mike Just like Swordbust 2 lol.

    • @user-kf5mg1xl9w
      @user-kf5mg1xl9w หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on how you exploit the base code i mean in GT4 you can be fast with a certain serup who doesnt makes sense if you exploit you car can have an insane amount of grip, in real life one definite setup doesnt exist in games is up to the base code the one who exploit it is the one who is going to be fast, there is one setup to be the fastest though there are many posibilities before someone find that specific tune, and in a couple of days being fix by an update of 10mbs or less or being banned 😂

  • @authenticNL2
    @authenticNL2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean you kind of did an Alex Gillion but you still have a point.

  • @eiksei
    @eiksei หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually i'm sad i didn't take the game on launch, never put my name on any leaderboard... Gonna buy the next one only to break it x)

  • @arshkhanlm3086
    @arshkhanlm3086 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    This game should have been delayed for a year

    • @zenksren8206
      @zenksren8206 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With MS' boner for contract hires it wouldn't do a damn thing

  • @xartemis2147
    @xartemis2147 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Man it's the first time i'm watching any of your videos, started with the first one before this follow-up due to curiosity about FM and as an outsider with no game knowledge i can say indeed both you and the other guys seem overly aggressive, with no definitive arguments when "attacked". Both sides arguments look good in vacuum. BUT i can say this, their hate towards you is definitely coming as "you made that video about cheating so that means you always always cheat, that's the only proof i need" and i find that extremely goofy coming from adults with supposedly developed brains. And due to that i'm taking your side (yes i'm taking sides)

  • @AveryChow
    @AveryChow 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:30 it's not an AI (at least in my experience) but rather TH-cam actually responding to people downvoting comments. I guess maybe it does use an AI for sentiment analysis + all of the people downvoting the comment and that's why it's hidden. very odd how TH-cam comments work

  • @omerdeveoglu6791
    @omerdeveoglu6791 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Sepi at this point this thing became a pissing contest. My humble opinion is you are mostly right. You are a great youtube content creator and excellent player in forza games. Your old tuning guide and meta videos prove that. Yes you did cheat but your only reason was to show us how easy it to cheat and get away with it. You arent like those losers that cheat in call of duty games to satisfy their egos.
    I think its time to move on.

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      So are we ignoring the part where he entered multiple tournaments, some of which he used VPN to illegally circumvent a geo lock, and used cheats to take prize money from people? You're okay with this?

    • @SkylineLofe
      @SkylineLofe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      @@Harmonic14 Is there explicit proof of this somewhere or is it just a massive he says she says?

    • @kyperactive
      @kyperactive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@Harmonic14There's no confirmed proof he took any money.
      He did partake with cheats, but there is nothing that says he got the money, unless you have something 99% of us dont?

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@kyperactive we found out his alternate gamertags that he entered tournaments with. Everyone thought he was insane on Horizon for a long time but it turns out he was cheating. He tried it again in the Logitech event on the same profile he normally ran on Horizon but got caught. All of his points taken away after we told the organizers and game devs

    • @kyperactive
      @kyperactive 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@Harmonic14 And how is this only now being placed out there?
      Im running under the guise this has legs mind you.

  • @JmarcusKmart28
    @JmarcusKmart28 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tbh half these some off these people that are on the Dev team are sweats

  • @user-kf5mg1xl9w
    @user-kf5mg1xl9w หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are more brands in Korea though hyundai is one of the biggest companies in Korea, Kia is starting to take the market though they dont sell in many places, Japan barely have Kias other than base models which are the worst, Kia and other Korean cars brands doesnt have the money Hyundai have for promotion, hyundai is sold around the world and have 43 per cent of the market in Korea, as many korean companies they buy promotion and ask for exclusivity thats a common practice between korean companies, they pay cash and in the contract says other companies from korea are not allowed, Hyundai and Kia are fighting for American and European Market thats why you only see Hyundai, the chinese new year is a festivity from china other countries have its own holyday around that day its completely different, Korea have a Lunar New Year which last longer and is completely different to Chinese New Year in case you didnt know, i have chinese and korean friends and they share me what they do around those days, completely different

  • @DOOMSHOT6967
    @DOOMSHOT6967 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had never played any Forza Motorsport game before so I was excited to get my hands on this game only to be very disappointed

    • @Cliffside_district
      @Cliffside_district 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      wait, ik u its me sauce but i had changed my xbox gt now

  • @Arealteamplayer_
    @Arealteamplayer_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    9th comment lmao
    also yea FM SUCKS its like if it wasn't supposed to be shown to the public

  • @-MaskNinja-
    @-MaskNinja- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    7th comment
    I wanna see you re-rating FM4, 6, 7 and FH1, 2 (not 360), 3.

    • @Nightmareof94
      @Nightmareof94 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d actually like to see his take on the 360 version of h2 cause oh boy was it bad

  • @NO_VlCE
    @NO_VlCE หลายเดือนก่อน

    I support you 100%
    Logic over feelings. T10 is shameful and should offer refunds to everyone on steam.

  • @ILOVEsnickers09
    @ILOVEsnickers09 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happened to your voice between the cheating video and everything after? You sound like a different person

  • @akinahara
    @akinahara หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    if you want to play a simcade game, play GRID Legends. Not- whatever the hell that game is.

  • @blocke2551
    @blocke2551 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    god this game is ugly. i know you mentioned it in the last video but seeing it now is just yeesh..

  • @kiagon5606
    @kiagon5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You remember that other vid that i commented that FM is built from the air down, right? No? Then ok

  • @destrudot
    @destrudot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    second to last

  • @foxes4609
    @foxes4609 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    salty comp community they cant take it that u got better time

  • @1998lemuel
    @1998lemuel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I swear these people's gigantic ego with the mustard seed size power and fame they got from being "top" players on this digital game that'll be forgotten in 20 years is hilarious. They are out here strutting around throwing accusations and acting high and mighty like any of this shit actually matters. In the end of the day this is just some bullshit digital videogame. It's not like anyone outside the 200k forza players out there is actually impressed with them being a "top" player. Mention that shit at a gathering and you'd only get weird looks as if it's supposed to mean anything. Their "world record" runs are nothing but 1s and 0s on a server because it's really based on nothing.

  • @Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse
    @Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe you just had to give up the money right after the comp, admitting you cheated infront of people would be a bit dangerous, but it could made the reputation better. If you just announce yourself donating 300 dollars to some charity, you would be just fine immediately.

    • @alsosepi
      @alsosepi  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i did not win any more from the tournament. $300 was from the ad revenue of the video

    • @Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse
      @Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alsosepi Cool!

    • @Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse
      @Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alsosepi I genuinely mistook the 300$ dollar for a prize.

  • @JimmyProductions
    @JimmyProductions 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The fact that y'all are getting mad at each other over a bunch of pixels is crazy. This is why I can't take any sort of Sim-Racing seriously and moved fully into IRL Go-Karting. If I were you Sepi, just move on, it doesn't even matter at the end of the day. It's just become a pissing contest to see who can piss the farthest and accuse others of cheating.

  • @SeydIitz
    @SeydIitz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    fourth to last

  • @ChaserX90
    @ChaserX90 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    you got banned for cheating in the Logitech rivals

    • @SeydIitz
      @SeydIitz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      cry about it

    • @gopikrishnapremchand
      @gopikrishnapremchand 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      ​@@SeydIitzjust like how u did when u got banned in ISAD server??

    • @M16_Akula-III
      @M16_Akula-III 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      oh the same guy

    • @DatSun.
      @DatSun. หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      epic copy paste bro, really gets your point across

    • @FireStriker_
      @FireStriker_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think that might be what happened but this guy does have a point about the fact it was a perma ban and not a temp ban.

  • @albannt4990
    @albannt4990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Honestly interesting to see that you think it was the cheating video that ruined your reputation.
    Any time any (as per usual full of half-truths, so you cant help but agree with some things) video of yours comes up in the comp community, people are just sick of the shit you do.
    Its clear that youre unable to drop the topic and from a more "inside" perspective, its noticeable that you do in fact have a very general knowledge about things happening in T10 affiliated communities. It takes being high up in any of them to see just how much of your own imagination you add to those bits of info you have.
    The only reason you get views is becuse people see good points and just believe the rest. The Andrew Tate effect so to speak.
    Do better

    • @ObviousMediaYT
      @ObviousMediaYT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      well said

    • @DrSpoofman
      @DrSpoofman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      I never liked comments of this sort - saying "there's more to it than what meets the eye" and showing none of it. How about refuting the points you think were incorrect? If you are an insider, go ahead and enlighten the rest of us. The existence of those closed circles and their insides were exposed to the public to some extent, so if you believe clarifications are due, might as well do the due diligence and provide that clarification.

    • @albannt4990
      @albannt4990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@DrSpoofman believe it or not, a multi bilion dollar corporation doesn't like to partner with people that leak things.
      If you want confirmation that I'm a credible source, go into any competitive server and ask around. Sepi also doesn't provide context for many things he says and you don't seem so eager to call him out on that, do you?
      EDIT: this of course isn't proof of anything. Believe what you want to believe, in the end it's just a racing game and I'm just a person saying things

    • @projectgorgonfan
      @projectgorgonfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      All your arguments are wrong. No I will not explain why, you'll have to do your own research. Ask anyone in my friend group, I'm credible

    • @albannt4990
      @albannt4990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@projectgorgonfan I've talked to sepi in private before and what matters to me is that he reads the comment and knows what i mean. Respecftully, i'm not required to prove anything to you and i will not waste my time trying to. Have a good day brother

  • @AxSucks
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