Cold Bluing The Correct Way

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
  • A quick tutorial on how to apply cold blue the right way.

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  • @christopherlarose2770
    @christopherlarose2770 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice shot dad and good job on the gun.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Chris!

  • @bramster-b9v
    @bramster-b9v ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great content, the old Diana air rifle is far from obsolete and definitely deserves an overhaul. I am sure that it has fallen into the right hands.

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like an Old Anglia ! Built like a Bloody Tank and just lasts forever !!! 😌

  • @richardgonzales4815
    @richardgonzales4815 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really needed this video! I’ve been thinking about cold bluing a few pieces in My collection. Thank You very much.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can do a decent job cold bluing a gun but it'll never look like hot salt bluing. As long as you're OK with that, go for it! Thanks Richard.

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว

      For small parts and Buggered screws and the like you can put a dilute mixture of Selenical acid in a small bottle and soak them for 15 to 30 min. (After they've been touched up of course, and rinsed with 91% isopropyl) Take em out blot them and oil them and Y'er Good ! 😉👍
      Handy for peckered breach screws, triggers, trigger guards, sights, etc
      ...
      "Seriously" rusted screws can be soaked in a 4 to 1 mix of Water & Molasses for a few weeks prior. You'd be shocked how the rust falls away and the black finish you're left to work with ! 😮
      Fine old, Vintage parts are hard to come by ! 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @thelvadam8916
    @thelvadam8916 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent work on one of my all time favorite sport air rifles. A high quality tune kit installation with proper lubrication and the 34 is a smooth, accurate and potent hunter/fun gun. Another fine addition to your collection. Have a great weekend Kevin.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, I put a ARH kit in this one (video to come) delightful rifle. Very powerful and rugged. A quality gun for sure. Thanks as always my friend.

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Mod. 34 is extremely easy to tune well ! 😉👍
      Most Diana break barrels of this standard production format are. 🤷🏼‍♂️ They Always Work, and results are quite predictable. 🙂

    • @thelvadam8916
      @thelvadam8916 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@marcmyers1465 Agreed with 1 caveat. Because the cocking lever isn't articulated, it can result in piston galling in some rifles. Piston buttoning will cure the issue in those examples.

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@thelvadam8916 True, I always hone the cylinder, button, and sleeve the piston, and glide the cocking arm. No metal to metal contact. I'll even dampen the cocking arm with Sorbothane. 😉👍
      An inexpensive 2nd. hand rifle leaves a whole lot of wiggle room for Tuning, and Upgrades ! 😃
      Even articulated cocking linkages have their own challenges. IE: Clicks & cocking slot galling. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @ianwoods1384
    @ianwoods1384 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Kevin,
    Thank you for your knowledge, enthusiasm and direction. I like to do my own jobs where possible. Its nice to know we are not totally at the mercy of other people.
    With respect to the professionals, sometimes its better if we can do our own mends/fixes as with our own property and passion we normally have more time to spend and love to give, rather than be under pressure to produce and time scales to adhere to.
    There's also the satisfaction in producing your own fixes, which is great too.
    I only recently found out we could do any kind of blueing at home. I thought we were at the mercy of the gunsmiths, what with the use of the chemicals, etc.
    Its was a great instructional video and great commentary and advice too, Kevin.
    Best wishes and thank you again.
    Take care, my friend.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you Ian. There's a lot of satisfaction to be had in doing things yourself. Thanks as always my friend.

    • @matthewmason2037
      @matthewmason2037 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Step aside, Bob Vila! I got some enjoyable education in this episode! I really like your how-to episodes, and all the others, too.

  • @davidcarter7310
    @davidcarter7310 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just what I was hoping to see one day ! So thanks Kevin and good job well done!.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks David!

  • @JacobBerry-lo3bm
    @JacobBerry-lo3bm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice work there! That was the first time I heard to go less on every preceding coat after the first. Appreciate the tip! I always appreciate your content and your enthusiasm for air rifles as well! Keep up the good work!

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks, Jacob.and thanks so much for watching, my friend.

  • @peterconnor4193
    @peterconnor4193 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bought some blue off Amazon, found some rust on my webley on the barrel weight, thanks for the video

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad to be of help, my friend.

  • @MalcolmJames-sg3zg
    @MalcolmJames-sg3zg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow I'm impressed, 😮 Thanks for the video , Keep them coming

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, my friend.

  • @rudiwells
    @rudiwells 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    many thanks! super clear and well explained

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much, and thanks for watching.

  • @danielmachin9733
    @danielmachin9733 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great useful video, thank you for sharing, I have an old BSA that I’m going to try and re-do the bluing on now, always enjoy your videos, have a great evening, cheers, Dan.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Dan. Rebluing an entire gun with this method will yield decent results but it won't compare to a professional, hot salts bluing job.
      Good luck my friend and thanks for watching.

  • @rapalaron6348
    @rapalaron6348 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done 👌like always Kevin.

  • @scottrobertson9452
    @scottrobertson9452 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good job Kevin and how to blue video! That's an iconic springer you have, Diana 34. Been around a long time and has proven itself. ScottinPa.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fantastic rifle! Thanks for watching Scott.

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are fine examples for building a Young Man one Helluva Rifle ! 😉👍

  • @mrvoorhees2627
    @mrvoorhees2627 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll be saving this I've tried doing it a couple of times with bad results thanks👍👍👍👍

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you and thanks for watching as always my friend.

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never one this cold bluing process before, mainly because I didn't know how to do it correctly, now that I've taught, I think I'll give this a try.
    T'anks Teach! :)

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's ideal for touch up work when a professional repair would be unrealistic.

    • @regsparkes6507
      @regsparkes6507 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@razor1962 This is what I have in m9nd, Thank you again!

  • @iamspartacus8219
    @iamspartacus8219 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s amazing, I’m going to give that a try if we can buy this in the UK

  • @springpistonriflefeverlone9611
    @springpistonriflefeverlone9611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice job on the blueing 🙂👍

  • @briandelfino8863
    @briandelfino8863 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good one. Keep 'em coming!

  • @manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
    @manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent job 👍

  • @kris2435
    @kris2435 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for sharing

  • @marcmyers1465
    @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    👏 Congratulations on hitting 3000, Kevin... Well Done !!! 😉👍

  • @terencegamble4548
    @terencegamble4548 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some really good advice there Kevin. Any future cold bluing I may have to do will be better for this video. I have been told that pre-warming the steel with a heat gun or hair dryer before applying the blue will enhance the finish. Thanks for the video.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone else mentioned heating the steel too. I'll have to give it a try. Thanks for watching Terrence.

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@razor1962 That's a lot easier when the rifles torn down... 🤔

  • @johnhauser4801
    @johnhauser4801 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job Kevin. This one I saved in my favorits and sheared it with my group. Thanks.

  • @iwanvanderhut4159
    @iwanvanderhut4159 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice tip to keep your gun looking great.

  • @kenfan5666
    @kenfan5666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much Kevin. This video will come in very handy for me. I will definitely refer back to it when refinishing my rifles.
    Stay Safe. Be Well. GOD BLESS.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Ken and thanks for watching.

  • @Iheartmyson
    @Iheartmyson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice and thanks. Now i can re-blue some spots on a Weihrauch i have. Which i worked on but in the process i have some blueing taken off.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So glad to hear that you found the video helpful. Thanks for watching, my friend.

  • @PeterAgostiniJdcap26
    @PeterAgostiniJdcap26 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice Kevin , I have done touch ups with cold blue a long time ago , good old brownells! 😎👍🏻

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Peter. Brownells has a lot of my money....

    • @PeterAgostiniJdcap26
      @PeterAgostiniJdcap26 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@razor1962 boy do I know that feeling, I bought a lot years ago as well .

  • @murfspop
    @murfspop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For mild rust on a smooth surface try the Mr. Clean 'Magic Eraser '.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I certainly will give that a try. Those things work on everything else. I'm curious now as to how they'd do on light surface rust. Thanks for the tip!

  • @endurosl20081
    @endurosl20081 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Two years ago I restored an old 1975 Weihrauch HW50 including the stock. It looks just beautiful, I used Bisley brand oxidizer to blue all the metal, but the blue is disappearing in some places in the barrel and in the compression tube. I'm thinking of sending it to a gunsmith to have it professionally blued.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Carlos. No cold blue on earth can rival the durability and longevity of a professional, hot salts bluing job. A professional rebluing is always preferable but not always affordable. Thanks as always my friend.

  • @SedEdwards
    @SedEdwards ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for that it's a handy tip 👍

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching my friend.

  • @pengwang2525
    @pengwang2525 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wow, awesome work, I will try my as well!

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you my friend.

  • @The-Armed-Pacifist
    @The-Armed-Pacifist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks good right now. The manufacturer actually recommends a warm water rinse of the area after each application. Then, a final dry and oil application.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Rodney. I've used the rinse method in the past. I prefer the results without the rinse and haven't had any issues over time. Thanks so much for watching my friend.

    • @The-Armed-Pacifist
      @The-Armed-Pacifist ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@razor1962 I like the build quality on those Diana’s, but I can’t hit a barn door with a springer.

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've found the oil method to be more reliable. The water rinsing method can occasionally be blotchy depending on the prior prep work. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @RODNEY PREWITT The challenge is the reward...😊

  • @marklawrence855
    @marklawrence855 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic job! 👏 👍

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, Mark, and thanks for watching.

  • @junglie
    @junglie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great minds think alike , I was just going to comment on using the wire wheel on a dremel when you pulled it out Kevin, i've had good results with the usa made cold blue by tetra gun, I find they all work better if you warm the parts first to about almost too hot too hold.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Heat huh? Never heard of that before. It sounds very interesting. I'll definitely give it a try thanks as always my friend.

    • @junglie
      @junglie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@razor1962 Any time pal, I still think it was kinda dumb for diana to finish the top of the breech like that, it's a moisture trap for sure & I bet a lot of them end up rusty there. Sounds like you've tuned that one by the shot sound & also pretty pokey by how quick the shot rang the bell!

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@junglie They did that for various specialty sights so the length could be adjusted . 😉 Mostly on older rifles. Diana did offer many different sight sets in the past.

  • @peteralexben
    @peteralexben ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i did some complete guns a d 16 and 35 with a product from ballistol Schnell brunierung und kalt entfetter ,fast bluing and cold degreasser in englisch,one layer enough

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting. I'll have to see if it's available in my neck of the woods. Thanks so much for watching my friend.

  • @ahdnoh
    @ahdnoh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My diana 34 is stamped 10 00, about to turn 23yrs old. Never tuned mine, curious to see how yours turned out.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's a video coming soon where I install an ARH kit in the 34. Thanks for watching my friend.

  • @LowkeyAirgunner
    @LowkeyAirgunner ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So you only need to wait a few seconds in between coats?
    *Looking good!*

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The results are almost instantaneous.

  • @almirria6753
    @almirria6753 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am looking at ceracoting all mine

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A much more permanent, durable and professional looking option.

    • @koenraadderoeck9045
      @koenraadderoeck9045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@razor1962 this aere 2 people how i inspet vab a airgun!!!!No landingbaan in flo and a stupif orange red for korrel oldschool sorry wheb people hurt how like like thuis!!!! i dont meen it for me a gun like slavia

    • @koenraadderoeck9045
      @koenraadderoeck9045 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you nibs and mister +Kevinlikev thevhw 30s havev a good evin !!!!!

  • @marcmyers1465
    @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Video... Lipstick 101: 😉👍

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Marc!

  • @user-wc6xt6wo7y
    @user-wc6xt6wo7y ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello
    Im think of buying a hw 77 but dont know what is better 77k or 77 long vs shorter barrel what is better and why my english is not thr best..
    Greetings from the Netherlands

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a matter of personal preference. Either configuration should be awesome. I own a 97K and it's a good length. It shoots better than I do.
      Thanks for watching my friend.

    • @user-wc6xt6wo7y
      @user-wc6xt6wo7y ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@razor1962 Thanks for the reply, im getting the K i think nice and short more easy in use i think.. nice and relaxing channel to watch!

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว

      "If" you can find one, the HW77 Long barrel in the Original 25mm format had Superior Accuracy and pretty much invented the sport of Field Target all by itself ! 😉👍 They are getting increasingly harder to find these days, but do show up from time to time. 😌 I tend to buy them on sight, rat hole them, and build the living snot out'a them !!! 😃👍
      FWIW: I found my last one right over there in the Netherlands. 😉

  • @mickchaganis6607
    @mickchaganis6607 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the info, I've got to do a little cold blueing, not had the best success the once I tried it. What do you think of the cold blue 'creams'

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Mick. It's been a long time since I used the cream form. As I recall, the results were similar.

    • @mickchaganis6607
      @mickchaganis6607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@razor1962 thanks

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oxpho Blue cream rubbed in with a bit of 0000 steel wool is Very Nice !!! 😃👍
      I've redone a few Olde Match rifles this way, and the results were Very Close to Master Bluing. 🤯

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did an Ancient Well Loved HW55M last year, It was a labor of love... In the end I polished and blued the piston Just Fer Grins ! 😂

  • @marcmyers1465
    @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can I ask, What is the total investment in the rifle w/ the tune kit etc... to date ? 🤔

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      About $350.00

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@razor1962 Nice ! 😉👌

  • @motorosso3349
    @motorosso3349 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would have removed the rear sight, first.

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably would've been a good idea. That's for watching, my friend.

  • @davidgreen2442
    @davidgreen2442 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you should have removed the rear sight

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, probably so David. The rust didn't extend underneath the sight but I managed to hit the sight base while using the wire wheel. Left a little mark. Could've been avoided had I removed it.
      Thanks for watching my friend.

  • @koenraadderoeck9045
    @koenraadderoeck9045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i thinking a verry time een red appel with bsuiker on for schoothing of his heis wit myn slavia, evrei t!mbi sayitb i smelthingn somting rond hin and its nots frei smelthing !!!!!! greethings nibs,with all myn love koenraad

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Koenraad! Thanks as always my friend.

  • @daniellewis5413
    @daniellewis5413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes let see it in 2weeks ! It tryed this on so menny guns it looks good for a bit the gos shit after 2week 😢 hot blue is better

    • @razor1962
      @razor1962  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      While cold blue can never match a professional, hot salts bluing job, it will last for many years if well cared for. A good protective oil will wipe away finger prints and airborne moisture which can lead to fading and surface rust.

    • @marcmyers1465
      @marcmyers1465 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try using the Oxpho Blue Cream, and rubbing it in with 0000 steel wool next time. You can do repeated treatments until you arrive at the depth of finish you're looking for... 😉👍
      Always wipe it down with oil after each treatment to fix the finish, even if you have to wipe it down with 91% Isopropyl before the next application. The oil is to fix the finish. 😉
      This has worked for me for over Two Decades now. 🤷🏼‍♂️
      There's a difference between touch up repairs and Re-Bluing. Nobody wants to mix up a fresh tank of hot salts for a repair. 😧
      Even the Touch-up Bluing pens work well if you lightly buff them out with 0000 and do multiple applications till you get it where you want. Always work as small as possible for touch-ups and buff it to blend it in. Pens are handy for nicks and scratches. 🙂 Ultimately success Almost Always comes down to your prep work "Prior" to application...🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @nutthrower4415
    @nutthrower4415 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing