High Performance Manual Transmissions at the 2014 PRI Show
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- The latest in manual transmission technology is discussed at the 2014 Performance Racing Industry show.
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I've never knew how much goes into a transmission before until now when I saw this video. I'm amaze at much stuff goes into building a transmission and designing them. Thank you very much for making great video such as this for newbies like me to learn from. Keep up the great work.
Appreciate the comment.
Thank you so much for that beautiful tour!
Just today I was lucky enough to find your video's.. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and making these great video's.. Transmissions have never been my forte, but you make them look simple! I may just have to do some playing..
Really interesting video, ive been getting my head round gearboxs and your videos help alot. Great to see dog teeth interface on gears, a mix of straight cut and helical gears and how a sequential box works. The brief insight into a f1 gearbox was awesome. I was wondering how different they would be. Same principles but just a skinny alternate arrangement. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
i came here by reference on eric car guy. looking you and eric together was awsome. stay health and happy.
This was a great video to watch. Thank you.
You should make one of these videos every time something new comes out. This is awesome! Don't ever feel like you're boring us by talking to us about this stuff. Your wealth of knowledge is incredible and inspiring!
Appreciate that.
Nice tour, thanks!
Twin Counter shaft Transmission Fuller Truck Transmissions Kalamazoo MI came out with that in about 1963. It was such a Great idea that Eaton bought them.. Mac even has a 3 Counter shaft Transmission ..
Very knowledgeable, appreciate your advice on the different manual transmissions at the PRI Show!
A new addition for 2019 is coming out around Dec 21 2019
Awesome video! I wish I knew as much as you, but I'm starting to figure some of this stuff out.
That look like a great show that you went to their Paul , where most of those Transmissions clutchless or were some of those operated with a clutch .
Thank you indeed for your concern. I would like to learn more about the gear box of Toyota Car & the names of all parts in great details..
"I have comment" "sell your videos to the HS shop classes" You got me to watch and learn a lot more about manual transmissions. Watching Americas small business showcasing all their products and there all versions made it a great video.
I've been trying to get my books in vocational school shop classes as well as videos for years. For some reason the bureaucracy is incredible and it just never happens. My publisher is more than willing to work with schools but unfortunately they are not proactive with the situation.
EXCELLENT contribution to youtube subbed! Thank You!
Good content. And Ending with Bjork was a nice touch haha.
it,s like going into a ,toystore for a grown up like me, awsome video!!,
Wow are hobby is growing, I can't wait to see how are hobby grows in the years to come...
Great video! Awesome to see two Australian Gearbox manufacturers there also!
Beautiful Workmanship, Fantastic Engineering and Amazing Technology !!! Thanks for doing this.
Thanks!
Idk if you still make these videos, but tons and tons of engine videos out there, but your stuff is just perfect simplifies and clears a lot of questions i had thank you
Thanks for watching, my later PRI video does touch on some of the newer billet engine stuff.
Ever notice how he likes to bang parts down on the table? lol He's noisy as hell with it but I love the guy. =)
very well done video ....thanks for posting
Thank you so much for this. Incredible stuff!!
+cowmilky Thanks!
GearBoxVideo , how do I contact you? Phone? Please.
ABSOLUTELY AWESOME video!! GREAT info!!
Excellent video
Nice showing, thanks for sharing your experience, everytime I watch your stuff I learn something new, it's take me a long way also as an upcoming gearbox builder
anton chahweta Thank you
awesome stuff, I've learned a lot, really appreciate it
Fantastic tour, Mate and not to mention the mouth watering, amazing engineering, thanks for the tour, enjoyed it very much, Goodonya, from DownUnder
bennockley Lots of good components and engineering from Downunder at that show!
The weight on some of these... amazing...
I could watch those gears all day.
4:30 It is common in the heavy truck business to have 2 counter gear sets. Some Mack trucks have 3.
28:00 I did hear that when Ford decided to buy transmissions from China, it was a disaster.
I enjoyed the tour. Thanks.
Thanks for watching. Please share it.
Now all we need is someone to invent a syncro'd trans for the weekday and a faceplate'd for the weekend all in one. :)
Wonderful occasion,
That dual counter gear Liberty transmission reminds me of the road ranger style transmissions in the semi trucks cool.
Yes. There is a video I have on this channel visiting Mid West Truck which has now merged this month with S&S truck. The rebuilding area is cool to see
I learned allot from all the various booths you stopped at!!! Thank you for taking the time to share. By chance, have you explained in any of your other videos the actual shifter box, that the handle / knob runs down in to works?... I am still making my way through all your content, so have no clue if you have covered how they control convert the knob actions into differently controlled linear actions... Especially like the last one in this video where one was on top of the other... But, I also respect the fact that those may be trade mark secrets by the various manufactures there?.. Driving me nuts trying to figure out how those are gated and racked flawlessly and most importantly, precisely... Thank you for the video, this one was even more enjoyable that the last convention show you posted, which was great.in its own right, but this, you really stuck the camera lens in there for me to see... I amp'd up and heading to the shop to play... content like this is inspiring... Dru
The shifter videos are a start. More stuff to come
Paul I do remember the feeling after the shows were over and you got back home it's hard to explain the feeling.
great content
Trust me Paul your not boring us.
Videos are the best!
Hey thanks for the cool insights into these transmissions. Could you please explain one thing to me though? What do those teeth on the Albins synchros do that protects shift forks?
This was an awesome video. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks. Please share it.
i cant get to these events so thanks for such a good product update.
Trying to film more events as I attend them
v nice video thanks
whats a compatible and better transmission swap/upgrade for a toyota c50 transmission? or how/what would you upgrade to and why?
Thank you for this video... awesome content!
+Chris J (T88-3oost) Thank You!
Any thoughts on the G35MR? I've got a 2006 Mazda 3, grinds when I put it in reverse or third (I can baby it in sometimes, but it's pretty inconsistent). I think it probably could use a rebuilt but never done anything near that involved before.
I'm looking at getting a T56 Magnum which is wayyyy ahead of my AutoGear M22W, which is so much better than an original Muncie. These transmissions in this vid make the Magnum look like a piece of junk. I've always wondered how race cars can have drivetrain losses of only 6-8% when a very good street car might be 16-18%, this video helps me understand why. Thanks for sharing this!
thanks. Very informative.
Thanks for watching. Please share it.
Great video !
stock cases blow chunks bad. need cases that can handle anything, what grain to follow?
That's incredible. Here in France almost no one want to open a gearbox to repair synchro, ghey just junk it and buy an other one. In usa there are some show where dozens of high performance gearbox are laying around, answering random customers etc... You american are very lucky on the car scene.
Well these are racing parts, it's a completely different scene.
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Toyota
ha ha!!!!
Haven't gotten bored watching a video yet.
Hey! Was that John Goodman at the beginning, promoting the Magnums?
Think I'm going back to manual, technology has come along way and I'd rather bang gears!!!! Awesome video!!!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I wanted you a video about the Mitsubishi Lancer Gearbox glx1300cc manual please
+Ahmed Salman Can you send me a transmission?
amazingly,
I still run a Muncie behind my blown 427 Camaro,,, 1st, they work,,, 2nd, I had run out of money. would deff love to have an overdrive!
There are some new overdrive transmissions hitting the market by mid 2017. Hang in there
I am building a drag civic, You can help me out when I get to this part of my build?
It is interesting to see that there are specialty uses for manual transmissions in racing applications. Also a number of these racing transmissions use dog teeth instead of synchromesh for faster shifting. For regular use automobiles, manual transmissions have almost completely died out in the United States.
David Grisez I know man. Manual transmissions are being phased out by tap shifts and paddle shifters. I guess it's too difficult for these yuppies to shift a manual while sipping their cappuccino and playing with their cell phone.
Awesome video, I love that engine oil filter! I worked on an ARCA team from the mid 90's until 2009, our first car just had a relatively stock Super T-10. As we stepped up our equipment, we had Jericos and last transmissions were the Tex Racing T-10s. The GSRs in your clip are sexy as hell, as are the Hightowers! How would they do on the street, in place of the M20 I now want to sell? Haha
+Jim Heiberger Thanks for watching. Dog ring boxes usually end up getting hammered to death on the street. The new M22 line I build is pretty competitive on the street and track.
+GearBoxVideo yeah I figured there must be a reason, same with that sequential box. Do you offer a shorter first M22 gear, comparable to the M20's 2.52? My Muncie is in a 4100lb (w/me in it) 3.73 geared C10.
i was thinking way back when i was a kid and my 69 chevelle's clutch pedal only travled about 2 inch's never any prob.my now 79 camaro travles prob 5" just like to shorten the travel. love your chanel,Tim
You can benefit from an adjustable pivot ball for the fork and move the whole assembly closer to the clutch.
thanks for the info, really enjoy your channel
i wonder if you could explain difference between long & short throw out bearings & the effect on clutch travel? thanks-Tim
Too little or too much clutch release can be dependent on the length of your release bearing. You just can't swap bearings around. A bearing that is too long can cause your clutch to over center from having to much throw. A bearing that is too short can cause your clutch to have a release issue because you have too much free play. When I do an installation I will usually mock up the clutch bell housing, clutch fork, and release bearing to see how this throw is working in relationship to the clutch installed.
Great video. We went to the 2015 show just a few weeks ago. The transmission vendors are really beginning to push the envelope in terms of weight, durability and technology. CNC precision has come to even the most mundane of transmissions like the three speed Saginaw. Just blows the mind.
+Doug Hanchard I was also at PRI for 2015. I shot some video, honestly it was the same stuff on display as the 2014 show, nothing much different.
+GearBoxVideo This was my first PRI at Indy. Used to go to PRI Orlando. I run Saginaws in stock cars.
+Doug Hanchard I've built Saginaws for stock car applications and it is amazing what that little transmission can handle.
We certainly have been impressed with its overall durability. Key to its durability is proper engine alignment and driveshaft angles. I still get the odd 3 speed case that can crack a front mount ear, but that's just the reality. We honestly don't magnaflux the case because, the transmissions are cheap to build and replace. The reality is that too keep up with the Jones's, guys are now spending thousands and stuffing high dollar low weight reciprocal parts into the stock housings (rules) and like it or not, be legal. It's driving a lot of us crazy. Some teams are experimenting with custom gear sets, 1st; 1.23, 2nd; 1.16 and finally 1:1. I run both a 3 speed and Muncie 4 speed with the Muncie a little more durable and getting parts at lower cost. But we are falling behind in the transmission war. Hence my initial comment. Now I know why. This year's PRI really opened my eyes into what is now possible. I just can't afford it. Makes me think I might as well buy my own CNC machine and make all the custom parts myself. My class simply can't afford $5-10,000.00 transmissions! But I know some guys are really spending that kind of money.
I have a 1995 Chevy S 10 manual transmission 4.3 L for my V6 five speed what transmission can I get upgrade to high-performance thank you roc your videos from my view keep up the good work
+Liberty Carpet Care If it is a T5, G-Force transmissions makes upgraded gearsets. The cost is expensive and in my opinion you are better off trying to convert to a Tremec TKO transmission.
Heat treated in argon gas!! Gears
Does the surface polishing of gears help with oil windage and reduce stress risers?
Windage yes, stress risers probably not so much. Shot peening will help stress risers created cracks
Nothing like some stuff that is Made in America!
can a 833 3 speed od trans be turned back into a standard 4 speed ? by changeing the 3 - 4 gears back to normal . i like these videos you do are great .
No. The mainshafts are different
Check out the Christian von Koenigsegg torque converter.
No need for bulky transmissions and gears.
Is there anything worse than a slipping clutch? An automatic
What would you recommend for a 1000HP Toyota supra. The Toyota V160 is like 9K new. Is it worth it or just go T-56 or other option?
A T56 is not the great. Call up G-Force transmissions and see what they have to offer.
You don't seem to cover import transmissions, but given the popularity of the BMW e46 for drifting I think it could be a good business opportunity. I've been told that Getrag doesn't sell parts so if you can find a mfg to supply you with custom parts and put together a series of how-to videos, it might become a decent mail-order income stream.
Well I've repaired Getrag units in the past and still have some tools and fixtures. Problem is I don't have cores or access to parts.
i learned more
nice video ,,
+Ejames sagaral thank you.
nice
Thanks
Question this neighbor is a "Ford transmission specialist" Everyone goes to him for not just transmission but repair/mods etc, he seems to be real good. My question is can he also do TR-6070? Are transmission like oil change where if you can do one then other cars are pretty much similar. Or are there "gotcha" or things that he needs to know/learn outside of Ford? Trying to save a few bucks if I break the tranny when I drag race it, but also want the job to be done at almost 100% since I drive it hard etc, and don't want no accidents while shifting etc. Thank you ! (stock and not modified)
Best to ask him....
How anyone gives thumbs down for this type of content?
It's part of it. Expect it. People seem to go out of their way to leave mean comments and thumbs down. Sad actually
why there are so many transmission? they are new so they are introducing the new way how they whould work or what..
Can you maybe show off some Transmissions that can be used street cars that are daily drivers but pushing out 500+ Horsepower?? Also I just found your channel and subbed. Great videos man
Please watch my other videos. The Muncie 4 speeds I do videos on can easy handle that power on the street and do.
To me shifting through a manual gear box is almost a religious experience.
30:18 what’s with the reverse gear set not making contact.?
EbkTillTheDay the idler gear is not displayed. So the idler contacts the counter gear and reverse gear
What Skyline does that trans belong to? I don't remember seeing that type of transfer case for the front wheels on a Skyline. In any year. I don't think it's for the new R35 GTR.
+30spooln Its for a truck version. Thats all I know.
That would have sense because it looks like a set up for a truck. Watching the rest of the video as I type. Lots of cool stuff to see.
R32-33-34 all had transfer cases like that. It looks just like a truck tcase.
Brasil ....
que inveja
I’ve got a 63 Falcon with a 347 with a Mikes Transmission super duper 700 R4. I ran that (first) trans a few hundred miles and it failed, sent it back to Mikes, it wasn’t set up properly (on my end), got it back, was told by my mechanic, “no problem” just a few miles and guess what, problem. I don’t trust the tranny, want to go 4 speed, I’m driving a money pit, just venting. Suggestions?
What is the HP and axle ratio?
Please upload truck gear box videos
Sure no problem when I get some in.
Hey purchased your book on how to rebuild performance transmissions, awesome read, gone through it 3 or 4 times. I have a '68 mustang with a 351w that I am building to be a daily driver, I want to yard the C4 and put a stick in but can't decide on an overdrive trans. Toploader with gear vendors seems complicated, tko600 would be perfect but it seems to be plagued with shifting problems, T56 is too big and starting to get too expensive for me. What would you recommend for a overdrive manual? handle at least 550hp and shift good at 6800rpm. Just saw McLeod is coming out with a muscle car 5 speed also, any experience?
The Mcleod unit is T5 based and not suited for your Horsepower. Some people are saying it is Mopar A833 based, it is not. Just a recased T5 with a longer countergear to add additional support. It uses a stock T5 gear profile. Richmond gear in my opinion makes the best 5 speed out there. There is a feature on it in this video. It comes with the shifter,
GearBoxVideo Emailed Mcleod about their new muscle car 5 speed and they said that aside from the case they made, the gear sets are their own design also? found some good pictures of the tranny on Dragzine and it looks like the main shaft is supported by a casting in between 3rd and 2nd gear? Not sure what the weak links are on T5s, never had one but always heard they are weak for anything over 350hp. Like the idea of not having to hack up floor pans.
Ryan Madden Its a T5 based design. In fact all the gears are direct copies of T5 2.95 ratio gears. The cluster was elongated to add addtional support. In reality the center to centers and tooth profiles are the same. This would make a good driver, but is not something I'd recommend for performance use.
what diesel engine fit onto the 722.408 petrol gearbox
I would not know.
Can I use a 2 wheel drive trany to fix my 4x4 trany I have no reverses
The 2WD and 4WD T5 have the same reverse gears. Some overall ratios might be different and you may have to swap the whole gearset.
what's the best oil brand and weight to use on m20
Raudel Perezchica please go to www.
Gl4oil.com
Almost seems like Roltek doesn't want to sell transmissions.
What was the name of the shop that makes the Subaru sequential gear box? It's the trans that still used the factory Subaru cases. Thanks
+30spooln Liberty's Gears
Thanks GBV! Sorry don't know your real name. Lol
+30spooln Samsonas www.samsonas.com/
Appreciate the correction.
do u have a video of automatic tranmission?
+Ejames sagaral No, but I am going to get a guest builder in to do a few common ones.
Whats the problem with those Rondas?
Between the gsr and Andrew's 4 speed would you rather go Andrew's or g force and what would you modify on them?
I think Andrew's in my opinion has better quality and design. Mark at Andrews is an amazing engineer. These boxes don't need mods. Neither does the GSR. That's what you are paying for.
@@GearBoxVideo thanks would you at least teflon coat lighten reverse or shafts
They lighten there gears already.
@@GearBoxVideo thanks again keep up the great content
'New innovations'- are there any other kinds?
Museums are full of old innovations.
Your PRI videos deserve numerous cups of coffee but I can't figure out how to buy you one 65 years old not too good at this kind of stuff?
No worries. I'm hopefully going to film PRI this year
LOL this guy is the Colin Quinn of mechanics!!!
Look how well respected and liked Paul is among his fellow vendors, he's just a great guy.
how can I attend the show? I am a Mechanical Engineer interested in manual transmissions
Go to prishow.com and register.
Did it say which F1 team that gearbox belonged to I'm almost certain they used carbon fibre to create the housing?
+NickLiang They never will say what team's stuff is on display. In fact it was difficult for me to even get some video! Most of the cases I have seen are all carbon fiber and the sliders and rails are all titanium.
I haveca super t10 that needs rebuilt. Is this something you do?
Thanks
Ben
Currently I am not taking in new work
@@GearBoxVideo my loss
Nice video! These manufacturers run straight cut gears instead of quieter helical gears so they don't have as many problems with the case. Helical cut gears put a lot of thrust in the case. All of them are going to break! Period. Oh, and they all recommend special oil! I wonder who made a piece of metal that only one oil can work with?
Not really true. It depends on case design. Porshe GTP's are all helical. When you are running 8 to 10K rpm for hours conventional oils will fail.
Ok, Thanks for the reply. What are you using for oil or does it depend on the application?
Neapolis it depends on the application most Street Transmissions with synchronizer rings I use a GL4 oil from driven racing oils. Composite rings take specific oils based on ring material being used
OK, thank you sir.