FIRST Sigma lens for Canon RF! 18-50mm f2.8 vs RF-S 18-45mm review

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  • My review of Sigma's FIRST lens for Canon's EOS R mirrorless cameras, the 18-50mm f2.8 for APSC!
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    00:00 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 introduction
    01:58 - Sell your old gear to MPB! Sponsorship
    03:03 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 design and controls
    05:14 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 coverage for photo and video
    06:24 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 focusing for photo and video
    08:47 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 focus breathing
    09:31 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 stabilization
    11:53 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 vs Canon RF-S 18-45mm landscape quality
    16:14 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 vs Canon RF-S 18-45mm portrait quality
    17:03 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 vs Canon RF-S 18-45mm bokeh quality
    17:50 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 vs Canon RF-S 18-45mm macro quality
    18:37 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 verdict and sample images
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  • @cameralabs
    @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My review of Sigma's FIRST lens for Canon's EOS R mirrorless cameras, the 18-50mm f2.8 for APSC!
    Buy the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 at B&H: bhpho.to/3KUGnX8 // WEX UK: tidd.ly/4cCmvUC
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    Panasonic Lumix S5 II: amzn.to/3Hf5IcI
    Sony A6400: prf.hn/l/pRO0wp5
    Sony e 24mm f1.8: amzn.to/2TqWNzk
    Rode NT USB mic: amzn.to/3AdHcUp
    Rode Wireless Go II mic: amzn.to/3xkCvGo
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    00:00 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 introduction
    01:58 - Sell your old gear to MPB! Sponsorship
    03:03 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 design and controls
    05:14 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 coverage for photo and video
    06:24 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 focusing for photo and video
    08:47 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 focus breathing
    09:31 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 stabilization
    11:53 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 vs Canon RF-S 18-45mm landscape quality
    16:14 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 vs Canon RF-S 18-45mm portrait quality
    17:03 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 vs Canon RF-S 18-45mm bokeh quality
    17:50 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 vs Canon RF-S 18-45mm macro quality
    18:37 - Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 verdict and sample images
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  • @kaspergaram
    @kaspergaram 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    I heard that Sigma said it's better for them from a business point of view to make APS-C lenses. Cheaper to make and they have a massive audience that want cheaper lenses. But personally, I would really love to get full-frame Sigma RF glass in my hands

    • @rws531
      @rws531 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Did sigma actually say it or did you read a comment from someone else that sigma said that?

    • @kaspergaram
      @kaspergaram 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@rws531 haven’t heard it officially, but it kinda makes sense

    • @fotografalexandernikolis
      @fotografalexandernikolis 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kaspergaram Then you have to ask Canon because it's them that are blocking 3rd party FF lenses.

    • @Wilbafarce
      @Wilbafarce 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If they could make an apsc 600 or 800mm f5.6 it would be useful....

    • @fotografalexandernikolis
      @fotografalexandernikolis 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Wilbafarce Over ~100mm a lens isn't going to be smaller than a full frame lens just because it's made for APS-C. The required optical formula for the entrance size completely takes over at that point. The main advantage of APS-C is in wide/normal where the size of the rear focus group can be made smaller, and makes a significant difference in the total lens size.

  • @parmanduke
    @parmanduke 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Canon getting their act together to allow Sigma on board. I’ve had this lens for Fujifilm and it’s awesome

    • @classic.cameras
      @classic.cameras 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Lets see how long it will take to let fullframe on their RF mount before congratulating them.

    • @amateurphotographer1096
      @amateurphotographer1096 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not sure if it is similae case for full frame lineup. Maybe, canon just want to get sigma to fill the gap in their APS c rfs mmount.

    • @falxonPSN
      @falxonPSN 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      It's less Canon getting their act together, and more them just trying to give us the least bit of improvement to shut up some of the critics. If Canon was actually serious they would fully open their mount to third party manufacturers like Sony did.

    • @classic.cameras
      @classic.cameras 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amateurphotographer1096 Its probably that their APS-C are a "break even" product and they do not wish to put any money into developing new lenses. They just want a entry level drug to get people hooked so they will go full frame.

  • @ghalibsworld
    @ghalibsworld 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Sigma RF 16mm F1.4 will be an important lens for talking head video shooters and the 18-50mm F2.8 is best for the product photographers but lack of lens stabilization is a problem. However, in my country (Bangladesh), many small wedding photographer groups use Sony A6400 for the Sigma 16mm F1.8 or Viltrox 13mm F1.4 in a gimbal where A7c/A74 is their main shooter. Hope Canon give a firmware update to the Canon R10 to add C-log and decrease price to fight with Sony A6400. Canon must update its kit lens line and cheap lens line as well. As an owner of a Canon R8 (Previously I used M50 and then R10), I will be happy to see a Canon 28-75mm F2.8 with stabilization cheap version or a 24-50mm F2.8 L version or a good kit lens like a Panasonic 20-60mm F3.5-5.6.
    Canon will have to face competition from Nikon or Panasonic as well. Once the mid-level user will become a high-end user. If someone invested in the expensive lens in another version, they will never switch back.

  • @yeahchuan
    @yeahchuan 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    FINALLY ...RF MOUNT THIRD PARTY LENSES ~

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly!

    • @Casey-lq1vu
      @Casey-lq1vu 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameralabshow much it cost

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Casey-lq1vu that's in the first few seconds of the video!

  • @Mr48374837
    @Mr48374837 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    awesome review. thanks

  • @henrysteadman963
    @henrysteadman963 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Appreciate your thoughtful reviewsGordon, and always interested to hear about developments of third party options for the RF mount, especially given my high opinion of Sigma's current line up, but I wondered whether you had tried the sigma on any full frame R body such as the R5, which would presumably switch the camera to a cropped mode, but for walk around this might be a reasonable sacrifice?

  • @SinaFarhat
    @SinaFarhat 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Nice!
    Good to have bright crop frame lens options for the crop rf cameras!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Exactly, at last!

  • @rudyreimer302
    @rudyreimer302 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great review as always! Thanks!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome!

  • @IntothewestOkotoks
    @IntothewestOkotoks 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the quick review and comparison! I’ve been using the older 17-70 2.8-4 on my Canon aps-c cameras for quite a while (including adapting it on my R7), so I’m very eager to upgrade to this newer version. The 17-70 has been a fantastic quality lens, and I’ve captured many great shots with it (my favourite likely being a sunset shot from the Shard overlooking the Thames towards Canary Wharf that printed beautifully). I have mostly Canon and Tamron FF glass, and only two APSC Sigma lenses (the other being the now very old 8-16). The best part of these lenses is their portability for trips, or even a long local hike - I’m rarely hauling my larger L lenses. It’s one reason I’ll keep using the APS-C format, and I’m really glad that Sigma has released this, since I believe (based on my older two Sigmas), these lenses tend to be better quality than what Canon offers, and can get close to L image quality. Thanks again Gordon!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're very welcome!

  • @simonmaduxx6777
    @simonmaduxx6777 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm very happy that sigma is doing this thank you Canon for that. In the last two years I've been researching other brands crops cameras because I'll never buy another full size crop like a r7 anymore.
    That said I'm not a fan of the RFS bodies /styiling feature set and I'm not getting any better image quality compared to my M cameras.
    My M cameras are the other issue because they still work absolutely great. I have a m62 in a smallrig cage to help with stabilization and attachments, and the 11th to 22, and a 22 f2. aside from a zoom which I intend to use the bigger ef 24-105, I'm pretty much covered. All very nice equipment and well made.
    That said, I'm hoping that there's some updates in the next year or so for the r10 or something below that like a r9 or so, something styled like the m62. One can dream.

  • @lingstein3500
    @lingstein3500 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Waiting for sigma 18-35mm art vs this 18-50mm

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      They never made a native mirrorless version of that lens. Plus it's possible to adapt the old dslr version

    • @AdventuresinNature
      @AdventuresinNature 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      My In-laws recently purchased a Canon R10 and I gifted them my old Sigma 24-35 F2 for EF mount and a Viltrox .7x EF-RF speed booster that I no longer use. The APSC crop of 1.6x plus the speed booster widening of .7x effectively transforms it into an almost full-frame 27-39mm F1.4 lens. It is incredibly sharp, as you'd expect Sigma's Art lenses to be, and works pretty well. One caveat is that focusing is noticeably audible for video scenarios, though.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@AdventuresinNature yep, speedboosters are a great option for APSC cameras...

  • @MarkAlderson
    @MarkAlderson 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Gordon! I have never used third party lenses on my Canon cameras, I've been fortunate enough to be able to purchase used EF lenses in the past for my Canon DSLRs, but when I switched to the Canon R series (currently just got a R6 MkII) I have stuck to Canon RF lenses. Thanks for the review, I'm sure many viewers will appreciate this video. Keep up the good work!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks!

  • @stevewhiteley9249
    @stevewhiteley9249 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ll get one of these - I use an R7 and 100-500 for wildlife work and would like a decent standard zoom to put in my bag for when I see something else I’d like to shoot. It will also make for a smaller lighter (than my full frame R6) walkabout setup with the R7. I’d still like to see a 15-80mm f2.8 to give proper wide angle to mild telephoto range - I used to like the 12-60 when I used to use MFT. Still, this is a start and I’ve preordered mine. Thanks, Gordon!

  • @henrycartier
    @henrycartier 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not just optical performance and sharpness. I also tend to prefer Sigmas color rendition out of the gate. It is slightly warmer and not as blue-magenta as Canon. Nothing that can't be fixed in post of course but Sigma paints a slightly better RAW file to start with. YMMV.

  • @nineoneten
    @nineoneten 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gordon with his hat off 😀 .....summer must be here !

  • @brianmckeever5280
    @brianmckeever5280 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Funny, I read the report about this on my news feed this morning and imagined I could hear you cheering all the way from Brighton to Vegas ;-) Interesting comparison. Does the FPS suffer like it does on Sony with 3rd party lenses? Not that it matters to me personally, I long abandoned Canon for MFT. I still enjoy your reviews though, cheers!

  • @mariaalbi1886
    @mariaalbi1886 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I currently use an R7 with a Canon 17-55 2.8 with an adapter for R mount, what are the differences between these lenses? Is it worth the change? The weight difference is very noticeable, but is the quality worth it for the change?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've also been thinking about that lens for a while, one of the only times Canon made a premium-ish lens for APSC. I remember reviewing it when it came out, but that was a long time ago. I'd be surprised if it's a sharp as a modern lens, and as you know it's certainly a lot larger, even before the adapter. I may well try and see it again sometime to see if it's still as good as I remember!

  • @AjaySingh-228
    @AjaySingh-228 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great option for photographers who want a sharp, well-built lens with a fast aperture Sir.

  • @backdrifter49
    @backdrifter49 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was probably one of the first to pre-order this lens at B&H and I can't wait to mount it on my R10. Looking forward to the 10-18mm and the 56mm Sigma lenses as well. Just wish they could and would do full-frame... Tamron, too.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let us know what you think of it!

  • @neatengineering
    @neatengineering 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I might just keep my R7, after all. What we need is an APSC tele zoom with a 5.6 minimum aperture. The trouble with the FR100-500 is that over half of it's area is wasted by the crop. (1.6*1*6=2.56) It could either be a stop brighter or half the weight, both without losing quality. As for the RF100-400, R8 is really too dark for a crop camera at high speeds. An RF-s100-400 f5.6 should be doable at a similar size, weight and cost to the RF100-400 f8. What killed the M6 MkII for me was the lack of high quality native stabilized lenes and an unstabilized body.

  • @ronchappel4812
    @ronchappel4812 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a great little lens! I wish they made it in Canon EF-M mount.
    I've toyed with the idea of changing systems so i can use it but that would be dumb.If i accept a larger heavier setup there are much better lenses out there, including Sigma's great f1.8 zooms.

  • @sameebah
    @sameebah 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been using a Canon 17-40mm L lens via an adaptor with excellent results, but perhaps this will tempt me into adding it to my collection, given its much more compact dimensions.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I remember the 17-40 f4L with fondness, and also used it on ASPC bodies back in the day, albeit DSLRs! Yes, this one would be much smaller and a stop brighter too.

  • @jan-martinulvag1953
    @jan-martinulvag1953 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Some cameras when you shoot jpegs are oversharp. I only shoot jpegs and I am searching for a camera with good jpegs. The M100 outperforms the X-T100 when you pixel peep. Gordon, have you noticed a camera with particularly good jpegs straight out of camera lately? I have a feeling it might be a Canon. Or a Panasonic?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As you know, I prefer to shoot JPEG where possible, and remember you can always adjust the parameters, for example, tone down the sharpening on a preset. As for suggesting a camera that shoots nice looking JPEGs, thats often down to individual choice. I do like the recent Fujifilms, although sometimes the Film SIMs can be a bit heavy handed. I've quite enjoyed recent Panasonic and Canons too - check out my sample images for the Lumix S5 II for instance, or maybe the Canon R8 or R50.

    • @jan-martinulvag1953
      @jan-martinulvag1953 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameralabs Yes I keep the X-T100 sharpness always at least on minus 1. Yes the SIMs are heavy handed so I use Provida/ Standard. I was shocked last week by how good the Canon 20D is. Someone tested old Minolta lenses on Z7 and Z6 and could not figure out why the Z7 pictures was a lot sharper. Turns out it was because the Z6 has AA filter and not Z7. With that in mind I turned in camera sharpness on T100 to minus 2 as an AA simulation...What is disturbing to me is that if I first go to minus 2 and then sharpen on the computer I get the sharpness I need without the wormy look at vegetation. The only Fuji camera I have that is not bayer sensor is the X-T1. Its frustrating to be a pixel peeper. If a picture does not look good zoomed in I freak out.

  • @gerhardbotha7336
    @gerhardbotha7336 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks cool.

  • @OtmarGultlinger
    @OtmarGultlinger 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    dear Gordon, could you also make a comparison of the fuji 16 - 50 and the sigma 18 - 50, because I think, this is for many fuji users a relevant question when buying for example the new fuji xt-50

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's a comparison I'd like to make

  • @indago1
    @indago1 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder why we didn't get Tamron 17-70 yet.. or maybe it will come later, that lens is the swiss army knife of the aps-c crop cameras

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, hopefully

  • @stotes57
    @stotes57 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm currently using an adapted EF-S 17-55 f2.8 on my R7, and they are a great combo for low light event shooting. While the size and weight of this lens are definitely appealing, I'm not sure that's enough. I'd be giving up IS and 6mm (x 1.6) of zoom range.
    Change my mind.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'd say your mind is set! But I am interested in revisiting this lens, one of the first I tested on TH-cam. It is pretty old now, so I'd be surprised if its resolution matches newer ones, but you never know until you compare it!

    • @peterlof
      @peterlof 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The 17-55 was practically glued to my 7D back in the day, but adapted on the R7 it makes the whole setup super heavy and clunky compared to what it could be. I'm gonna rely on IBIS to be a perfectly capable alternative to IS and have absolutely no doubts about retiring the 17-55.

  • @drmathochist06
    @drmathochist06 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks like a nice piece of glass. Not my favored fl; I'll keep the native 70-200/2.8 for action shots on my R7, and the 18-150 as a walkabout. But if I was in the market for a normal zoom, I'd take Sigma's over Canon's in a heartbeat.

  • @SVThailand
    @SVThailand 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    50 years of photography and FINALLY somebody who can explain focus breathing simply and easily.
    Do NOT watch Tony & Chelsea to learn about focus breathing... Just watch this video starting at 21:28

    • @IlyaBlay
      @IlyaBlay 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      21:28 is the end of the video... Maybe you meant 8:48?

    • @falxonPSN
      @falxonPSN 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it's a spam account or a bot. Think about it, what they're saying doesn't make sense.

  • @RICHARDPAUL-jn5hv
    @RICHARDPAUL-jn5hv 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A useful review of what appears to be an excellent APSC lens for Canon RF mount. I use a Canon EOS R10 so using this lens would mean that I have no IS which is quite disappointing. I suppose Canon want to limit the performance of it's competitors!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's Sigma's choice whether to put IS in their lenses or not - they generally don't on non telephotos. But equally Canon could do with fitting more bodies with IBIS... and yes, you're right, that could be an alternative way to make third parties without IS look less attractive.

  • @Norubaki66
    @Norubaki66 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm thinking of replacing rf-s 18-45 mm with something better. I was considering 18-150 mm due to good reviews and range though Sigma seems very compelling. Actually it could be no brainer but... I have R50 with no in body image stabilisation :(... It could be interesting though, if you compared those 2.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      DO you mean testing the Sigma lens on the R50? I didn't have a chance to do that, and yes, you won't have stabilisation for photos. But there's still digital stabilisation for movies if you want it.

    • @Norubaki66
      @Norubaki66 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cameralabs Yes, sorry I ment testing it on unstabilised bodies such R100 or R50. For me photography is currently priority. I ended picking up R50 due to budget constrains 😢

  • @dima1353
    @dima1353 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So what about continuous shooting speed ? When I saw the word "licensed" - this is the first question that came to my mind.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Good question - I recall testing this, but for some reason didn't include it in the video. As I recall the fastest mechanical burst speed wasn't affected, but as I show in the video, the AF coverage is a little smaller than the full frame you get with Canon's own lenses. I'll reconfirm the next time I have this combination.

  • @ColinRobertson_LLAP
    @ColinRobertson_LLAP 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Your opinion on Canon's commitment to APS-C lenses has been proven over years of neglect from Canon, even before the RF mount. Have they ever made an L-lens specifically for crop sensors? They've always treated the crop-bodies as an upgrade path to full frame, which is a shame. Fujifilm really redefined what a premium crop sensor system could be-smaller, more affordable, and still offering great image quality.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I completely agree. Apart from the EF-S 17-55mm 2.8 and EF-M 32mm f1.4, all of their APSC lenses have been aimed at the budget end, and not a single one have been weather-sealed either. I understand when they're to match budget bodies, but as I said, that leaves owners of the higher-end bodies in an odd place where they generally buy full-frame lenses.

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I support you Gordon you are the only one I am watching this review on. As a camera nerd I care but as someone who dumped Canon over a year ago, I have moved on.

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you own a Canon APS-C Crop camera. You owe it to yourself to buy this Sigma lens. Wow Gordon I am blown away!

  • @tysonator5433
    @tysonator5433 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have this lens for my Sony A6600 which is a cracking combination. I purchased the sigma 18-50 f2.8 with the Sony A6600 because at this time there was no canon R7, and I wanted eye detection AF. Then few months later the R6 was announced and I had to wait 5 months before I finally got it. When got my R7 there was no decent walk around lenses in RF, or even EF for 7Dii.
    Canon has never given a cap APS-C and believe customers will use it as a stepping stone to full frame. At the moment canon RF glass is way too expensive!

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      R7 with RF-S 18-150 or adapt Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 Contemporary is the walk-around set up.
      Everyone keeps moaning about RF lenses being expensive while the awesome primes like RF28 and RF16 are viable on both FF and APS-C.

    • @tysonator5433
      @tysonator5433 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zegzbrutal problem with primes is you gave zoom with your feet. I have found over the years a decent zoom of 16-70 apsc or 24-105 FF in f2.8 or just f4 is all most people need. The quality of glass now is pretty good and zooms are just as good as primes for IQ. I use my sigma 18-55 f2.8 e mount all the time on my A6600, even though I have a apsc 50mm F1. 8 !

  • @rossy_0594
    @rossy_0594 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Compare with sigma 18 35 f1.8 apsc

  • @iyn1911
    @iyn1911 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks good for the R-50 body.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, sadly you won't have stabilisation, but it's still my preferred zoom for ANY of the APSC Canon bodies.

  • @MohsinWadee
    @MohsinWadee 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you think it's overkill for the R50?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not at all, I'd want to pair this with any Canon APSC body! But remember you won't have stabilisation for photos.

  • @masterche1980
    @masterche1980 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow!

  • @atlasbesikniyo8753
    @atlasbesikniyo8753 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a lens I wished came for the ef-m system as well.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes, but at least efm got the primes

    • @atlasbesikniyo8753
      @atlasbesikniyo8753 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameralabs True.

  • @knagers
    @knagers 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for this great review! I'm thinking of buying it but I have a Canon R10, so no ibis. Will it be a problem? I also use the rf 50 mm without any problems. Can you switch the focus ring to a control ring in the body? I hope so, it's possible with the rf 18-150 mm.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'd say it'd be great on the R10, although as you know, unstabilised like your 50. No, the ring is for manual focus only as far as know.

  • @kenneth6102
    @kenneth6102 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can't wait to buy the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 DG DN II for RF mount. I totally agree with you that greedy Canon will not let Sigma make full frame for a while. It might even be the third iteration of the zoom lens for Sony and Nikon when it launches on Canon.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, I fear it may never happen.

    • @kenneth6102
      @kenneth6102 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameralabs 😭

  • @JeffBourke
    @JeffBourke 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    because sigma now have to build in Canon Royalty, the price goes up for ALL APSC sigma glass.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It hasn't so far

  • @Postosuchus
    @Postosuchus 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video, I especially appreciate your in-depth IBIS tests and comparison with an RFS lens, though I wonder how the Sigma would fare optically against the R7’s 18-150 kit lens. Thanks for all the work put into these tests!

  • @simonmaney3438
    @simonmaney3438 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The glaring problem is that Canon's smaller, lighter APS-C bodies (that would really benefit from a lens like this) don't have IBIS. (The R7 is nearly FF size and weight.)
    So, as a Canon FF user, my biggest problem is trying to decide between a Sony A6700, or Fuji XS-20 / XT50.

    • @superstringsbro
      @superstringsbro 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Any of those is better than a canon apsc 👍

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@superstringsbrothey are either more expensive or poor AF

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s not a telephoto, shooting with safety shutter in mind is enough. For low light work you have to use f1.8 and brighter

    • @superstringsbro
      @superstringsbro 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@zegzbrutal wrong. Sony AF is better than Canon and the new Fuji’s are very good.

    • @justinburley8659
      @justinburley8659 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@superstringsbro I've heard the exact opposite about Fuji

  • @luyin1961
    @luyin1961 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the video review.
    Given Canon's attitude toward 3rd party lens makers, I cannot help but think that Canon does not care about the APS-C segment. I still have a couple M cameras, and Canon had not released any good zooms at the time M line was discontinued. The fact that Sigma is only making APS-C RF lenses and only manual Voigtlander was allowed for RF full frame makes me very suspicious of Canon's commitment in APSC segment.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree, Canon has never been into APSC lenses. They might have made some high-end APSC bodies, like the 7D and R7, but EF-S, EF-M and RF-S have been mostly about budget lenses for them.

  • @davidaltizer
    @davidaltizer 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Perfect lens for the c70!

  • @mb-watches
    @mb-watches 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I do use the 18-35 f1.8 on my R7 which really works great. Will add the 10-18 2,8 and later on the 16 F1,4 - not sure whether it makes sense to get the 18-50 with the 18-35 already in my kit. Good to see though canon opening up, also looking forward to tamron. Thanks for the as usual great review Gordon. Keep up the great work 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, if you're happy with the 18-35 there's no need to switch to this. The 18-50 is much smaller as lighter, but obviously lacks the 1.8 aperture.

    • @mb-watches
      @mb-watches 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameralabs yeah; the size and weight is not the best but for pure video work on a tripod it really works well. Maybe I still add the sigma 18-50 for gimbal work - so far I did use there the RF-S 18-150. on the other hand. How many 18-xx lenses I really wanna have. The joys of the hobby I guess 😂😂

  • @lb_projekt
    @lb_projekt 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The 10-18 works even in full frame. If you crop a little bit the image you get a 13-24 f2.8 in full frame mode

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It also means you can apply extra digital stabilisation for video

    • @lb_projekt
      @lb_projekt 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameralabs exactly. That's the point. Normally in full frame is a problem the extra crop. In this way you can have the f2.8 bokeh as a full frame lens! And even more minimum focus distance!

  • @nalsaffar6328
    @nalsaffar6328 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think now there is no need to get a full frame camera 👌🏻

  • @AgnostosGnostos
    @AgnostosGnostos 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i wonder if canon change its mind and block third party lenses with future firmware updates

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm sure they wouldn't do that, it would be a marketing disaster

    • @gabedamien
      @gabedamien 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would also probably be grounds for Sigma et al to sue Canon for breach of contract given that this is now an official licensing deal. I would be shocked if the terms don't include some kind of assurance on Canon's side of continuing support, otherwise Sigma would never risk the business investment of developing RF mount lenses, right?

  • @hwirtwirt4500
    @hwirtwirt4500 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Canon owners have become very vocal on the message boards about the third party option, Canon is getting the message and that's a good thing.

  • @PhilippeDHooghe
    @PhilippeDHooghe 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review, thanks, Gordon. In low light, my R7 seems to be missing AF all the time, even with an f/4 lens. With the RF 28mm f/2.8 it nails focus every time. Do you thing that would also be the case with this Sigma? Because indeed, that would transform the R7!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Having the extra stop certainly improves AF.

  • @tomasjahelka8099
    @tomasjahelka8099 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great made in Japan lens for Canon made in Japan cameras.

  • @FilipDePreter
    @FilipDePreter 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finally.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly!

  • @natureredux1957
    @natureredux1957 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Canon is the only Major Brand that makes its Own Sensors outside of Sony. So when folks want rattle on and on about Third Party this or that, maybe they ought to keep that in mind. It is NOT cheap to design and then build, your own sensors. Most folks are assumed to buy just the Kit Lens, regardless of Brand especially with these cropped cameras. Folks ought to keep that in mind, again when they rattle on and on about Third Party this or that. So it's one thing to talk about what is the right business choices and it's a whole different thing to actual Run, stated business.

  • @OnlyCitrus
    @OnlyCitrus 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I still dont know why Nikon still holding of this beauty for the APS-C line up.

  • @craigcarlson4022
    @craigcarlson4022 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Jeez, what a dramatically better lens! I sold off my R7 over a year ago, in large part due to the frustration over lack of viable lenses. Canon, you twiddled your thumbs too long.

  • @ghbdtnbytn
    @ghbdtnbytn 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Its strange that autofocus area is a little smaller vs native rf lenses(
    I use Sigma art lenses on Canon rf body, using adapter and autofocus area also smaller, around 80% of native, its not a big deal, butt still
    Thanks for review

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's interesting about the adapted lens having the same coverage. Have you tried adapting any of Canon's own EF lenses? Do they have the full area?

    • @ghbdtnbytn
      @ghbdtnbytn 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameralabs Yes I tried ef lenses, using official canon rf-ef adapter, they have full autofocus area like native rf glass

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ghbdtnbytn thanks for confirming. It's interesting isn't it? Glad I illustrated it in this review.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The focus tests show the R7's terrible rolling shutter. I'm glad I didn't buy it. Rolling shutter makes me crazy.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, although to be fair, that swing back and forth on the bottle trips up almost every camera I test for rolling shutter.

  • @alanm.4298
    @alanm.4298 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These Sigma lenses are long overdue. Canon should have worked with Sigma (and others) even prior to introducing their APS-C cameras in RF mount. They have likely lost any number of customers to other brands, who were unimpressed with the mediocre RF-S lens selection. That could have been avoided simply and easily.

  • @alphaandomega2709
    @alphaandomega2709 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nikon shooters make the switch now.

  • @ericrenz5431
    @ericrenz5431 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mpb….37€ for the kit lens😂 2:24

  • @mvp_kryptonite
    @mvp_kryptonite 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Interesting, nice little lens. Looks like a Canon have room for an f2 version given how narrow that lens looks but we know they focus on full frame. The 10-18 for sure is appealing with such a bright aperture. Nice review, will look out for the 1.4 collection when they are posted

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! I've already reviewed the 10-18 and all the primes for Sony e-mount and the optical results should be essentially the same

    • @mvp_kryptonite
      @mvp_kryptonite 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameralabs ah i see. Ok will go look for them.
      What’s interesting is the pricing. Canon new kit goes up compared to US prices, but this Sigma was as you said. I wanted to order the new EL10 flash but the UK price was silly imo

  • @juergen404
    @juergen404 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you Gordon. I'm waiting for such a lens for a long time. Having a 70-200 2.8 on my main cam for sports, I always wanted to have my R7 on the "wide" end as the second cam. Now my 1DxII can retire.

  • @superstringsbro
    @superstringsbro 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not wide enough. AND we need lens IS 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

  • @jamesmgreen15
    @jamesmgreen15 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for this good review: Its handling of the R7 sensor is a credit and the choice is welcome. I use APSC for my on-the-hoof light travel needs (not a pro). One option is my EOS200D/SL2 and ancient 17-50 NON-IS Tamron. No IS means I need to think about that option. My question, to myself, is whether I want to ''upgrade'' to an RF-S below the R7 now this is out? As it stands I am thinking no for my small and light as possible wants. One swallow was never going to make a summer, but no RF-S 55-250, 24mm prime remains an issue although their new wide angle was welcome.....I have FF .....what to do, what to do

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      At least there's now more choices!

  • @mbismbismb
    @mbismbismb 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just wanna say that the canon lens is a kit lens...

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm pretty sure I also said it was the kit lens

    • @mbismbismb
      @mbismbismb 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameralabs yeah i know, its just that u compare it sooo sooo much against this lens like they are in the same league or soemthing

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mbismbismb I know what you mean, but I did it to show what you get if you spend more. Equally there aren't any other RF-S zooms with that short general range.

  • @Skux720
    @Skux720 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Sigma rescuing another Canon mirrorless mount. You love to see it!

  • @addz17
    @addz17 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Canons aps-c line up is the worst... I've no idea why anyone would buy one instead of any Sony.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've literally just had this argument with them

  • @JeffBourke
    @JeffBourke 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They had no choice because they have zero good RF APSC lenses. Canon still suck.

  • @unbroken1010
    @unbroken1010 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not 8 am in the UK and 1:18 am in NY 😂. Why????

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a Japanese launch time

  • @bradl2636
    @bradl2636 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Too late Canon 😂

    • @mbismbismb
      @mbismbismb 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Too late sigma to be precise 😌

    • @JeffBourke
      @JeffBourke 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@mbismbismbhave you been living under a rock? Canon blocked them.

  • @marioplus321
    @marioplus321 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    sorry Sigma, no interest until FF 4 RF released.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fingers crossed, but I bet it takes longer

    • @marioplus321
      @marioplus321 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cameralabs 🤜🤛

  • @muttishelfer9122
    @muttishelfer9122 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Best APSC zoom!" No.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      For Canon RF, yes.

  • @jaegerschtulmann
    @jaegerschtulmann 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To those begging for sigma to make full frame glass it ain’t happening; just abandon the ship to either Nikon, Sony or Panasonic (if you’re into video hybrid stuff) canon won’t listen to their customers

    • @simonmaduxx6777
      @simonmaduxx6777 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm pretty much held bent on getting a Panasonic s52. be unable to have access to L mount lenses is going to be so nice...and I can have a modern 50 mm 1.8 that doesn't cost 2k or a modern 35 1.4 that doesn't cost $1,500.
      Otherwise I'll keep my R5 ef glass.
      Options are good.

  • @silentnook4371
    @silentnook4371 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    now we know why canon is afraid of 3rd party manufacturers...because their glasses are overpriced garbage

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bit of a generalisation there. Most of the Canon lenses I've tested have performed very well, but I'd love to see your own tests for reference. As for their prices, that's what they think they're worth, and we can choose to buy them or not. And if there's no third party alternative, as with their full-frame, then it's easy to choose a different system if lens pricing is an issue. This Sigma becomes the most desirable zoom for Canon APSC, but some people will be satisfied by the RF-S 18-45 which is smaller, lighter, cheaper, and has IS. It's ideal for the R50 and R100 it was designed for.